I Might As Well Lecture A Goat

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: I Might As Well Lecture A Goat
Date: October 7, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into political scandals involving intelligence agencies accessing senators' phone records, the ongoing lack of accountability in government, and broader cultural and political polarization in America. Issues covered include alleged weaponization of federal agencies, mainstream media's treatment of transgender identities in crime, and the increasing role of politics in personal relationships—especially in dating. Armstrong and Getty, in their familiar irreverent, humorous style, mix cynicism with sharp commentary, challenging both sides of the political spectrum.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Operation Arctic Frost: Senators' Phone Records Scandal

[03:33–11:28]

• The Story: Special Counsel Jack Smith subpoenaed phone records of several Republican senators (including Lindsey Graham, Marsha Blackburn, Ron Johnson, Josh Hawley, and others) as part of a January 6th investigation dubbed "Operation Arctic Frost."
• GOP’s Reaction: Outrage over what they call political weaponization and an abuse of power, questioning, “why are you spying on United States senators?”
• Hosts’ Take:
  • Joe expresses cynicism:

    "I just don't think anything ever comes of any of these stories… nothing ever comes of them. And I'm not exactly sure why." [04:47]

  • Jack refers to Senator Schumer’s comments about intelligence agencies’ vast unchecked power.
  • Both hosts agree intelligence agencies routinely act well beyond what Americans would consider constitutional, often without oversight:

    "I think the intelligence agencies do whatever the hell they want, whenever the hell they want, way beyond what most Americans would accept or is constitutional." – Joe Getty [05:28]

• Historical Anecdotes:
  • Dianne Feinstein was once spied on by intelligence agencies—another example swept aside.

Congressional Hearings on FBI Practices

• Lindsey Graham grilled Attorney General Pam Bondi about FISA court evidence and the access to senators’ phone records, getting stonewalled with “I can’t discuss that, Senator.”
• Armstrong:

  "Let's make a show out of yelling about it. But it's not going to go anywhere and we know it." [05:13]

2. Perpetual Political Finger-Pointing and Lack of Reform

[11:28–14:07]

• The hosts lament the current state of American self-governance:

  "I just, I don't see energy toward actual reform... I don't see that, you know, you're looking for green shoots... I'm not seeing the green shoots. I don't think we can govern ourselves anymore." – Jack Armstrong [11:50]

• Both men note that as long as political parties refuse to police their own side, no progress will be made on reducing corruption or politicization of agencies.

3. Progressives, Identity, and Political Polarization

[14:07–23:19]

• Discussion pivots to how some media outlets refer to the would-be assassin of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh—a biological male—as a woman, due to a recent transgender identity claim.

  "It's a dude. And finally, mainstream publications... are saying, look, he's a man. Can we stop this, please?" – Jack Armstrong [14:30]

• The conversation expands to note the mainstreaming of previously radical progressive positions, particularly on gender identity.
• The hosts cite polling that shows:
  • Over 70% of single Democrats would not date a Trump voter (2020 poll).
  • Three times as many Democrats as Republicans have ended friendships over politics.
  • The politicization of personal identity is much more intense among progressives, leading to social divisions.

4. Dating, Political Morality, and Emotional Divides

[19:04–23:32]

• Online dating profiles commonly say "No MAGAs," but almost never "No Kamalas"—illustrating asymmetry in partisan identity as a personal dealbreaker.
• Armstrong and Getty argue that progressive politics is more closely fused with personal identity and moral judgment.

  "Conservatives think progressives are wrong, progressives think conservatives are evil." – Jack Armstrong [21:52]

• Listeners chime in via text, reinforcing anecdotes of political litmus tests sabotaging potential relationships.

5. Transgender Issues, Crime, and the Media

[29:29–40:37]

• The hosts examine the sentencing of Nicholas (now Sophie) Roske, who attempted to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh. The judge delivered a light sentence, in part due to Roske declaring a transgender identity.
• They highlight the Wall Street Journal's Matthew Hennessy, who criticizes media and courts for accepting self-identified gender over biological sex:

  "His sex is as much a question of fact as his hometown and his age. You don't get to declare what it is." [37:31]

• Armstrong notes the statistical overrepresentation of trans-identified individuals in certain violent or sexual crime categories—a claim accompanied by skepticism of mainstream media's willingness to investigate such trends.

6. Broader Reflections & Closing Banter

[44:01–47:59]

• Brief riff on Canadian politics, personal grooming (mustaches), and what it means to make bold personal fashion statements—like growing handlebar mustaches or sporting colorful hair.
• Final thoughts segment includes lighthearted remarks about holidays, neighbors’ decorations, and small victories (such as a 13-year-old cooking breakfast).
• Closing lines reflect the show’s signature blend of humor and resignation about the state of America:

  "I would much rather just get in a pen, be fed, be sheared every so often. Do exactly what the government tells me to do... making my own decisions is so confusing. Tell me what to do." – Jack Armstrong [49:01]
  "Get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand." – Joe Getty [49:18]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On government accountability:

  "I don't think we can govern ourselves anymore." – Jack Armstrong [11:50]

• On intelligence overreach:

  "The intelligence agencies do whatever they want, whenever they want, and never... and they have little to no oversight." – Joe Getty [09:42]

• On political division:

  "Until each side starts calling out their own side, we will never make any progress." – Joe Getty [11:28]

• On political identity and relationships:

  "Conservatives think progressives are wrong, progressives think conservatives are evil. And I will gladly be friends with somebody I think is wrong about something... but I'm not going to be friends with somebody I view as just clearly evil." – Jack Armstrong [21:52]

• On gender and media representation:

  "His sex is as much a question of fact as his hometown and his age. You don't get to declare what it is. It's a biological fact. It's not a decision to be made or an opinion to be held." – quoting Matthew Hennessy [37:31]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 03:33 – Coverage of "Operation Arctic Frost" and phone records scandal
• 09:21 – Congressional hearing soundbites
• 11:50 – Reflections on American governance and lack of reform
• 14:30 – Media representation of gender identity in crime
• 19:04 – The role of politics in dating and friendship divisions
• 29:29 – Kavanaugh would-be assassin case, sentencing, and media coverage
• 37:31 – Opinion segment, quotes from Wall Street Journal’s Matthew Hennessy
• 44:01 – Light closing banter: Canada, mustaches, personal reflections
• 49:01 – Armstrong’s tongue-in-cheek “sheep” remark, signaling episode’s title

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Tone and Style

As always, the Armstrong & Getty Show brings a blend of sarcasm, pessimism, and irreverence. The conversation veers sharply between substantive deep dives (on surveillance scandals and cultural divides) and comic relief (waxing about handlebar mustaches or Canadian politics). The pair’s mutual cynicism about reform and governance is leavened by their willingness to critique both right and left.

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In Summary:
This episode provides an in-depth, humorous, and often cynical examination of the lack of accountability in U.S. government agencies, the rise of political identity as a social litmus test, and controversial media treatment of gender and crime—all while skewering both major political parties and lamenting the current state of American self-governance.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now here's Armstrong and G.

[Joe Getty]

So some people are saying this is bigger than Watergate. It's not landing like Watergate so far, but that's partially because the most of the media isn't covering it at all. What's the story?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, as of yesterday, several Republican senators revealed that special counsel Jack Smith, you remember him, he was investigating January 6th. He had analyzed. Well, he gotten access to and analyzed the phone records of nearly a dozen GOP lawmakers as part of Operation Arctic Frost, looking into January 6th. As I said, the list includes Lindsey Graham, Senator Marsha Blackburn, Ron Johnson, Josh Hawley and others. GOP Congressperson Mike Kelly. The records allowed investigators to not listen to the calls, but saw who was called, the date, the time and the length of phone calls. And they got these records through a grand jury subpoena, I guess. But Republicans are condemning the action as a politically motivated abuse of power, weaponization of the FBI, and essentially asking, why the hell are you spying on United States senators?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I, you know, I hate to be overly cynical. I just, I just don't, I just don't think every, anything ever comes of any of these stories. It's unfortunate. I mean, there's lots of bad things that happen in government, especially around our intel agencies, and just nothing ever comes of them. And I'm not exactly sure why. I don't know if it gets down to at the end, it's like we do it, they do it, we all do it, let's just move on or something, I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Let's make a show out of yelling about it. But it's not going to go anywhere and we know it. Yeah, well, and who was it? Was it Schumer who said, you know, you go up against the intel agencies, they got six ways from Sunday to get you mess with you.

[Joe Getty]

That's interesting. I believe that this moves me into semi conspiracy territory, but I believe this. I think the intelligence agencies do whatever the hell they want, whenever the hell they want, way beyond what most Americans would accept or is constitutional.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think there's truth to that. Sure.

[Joe Getty]

And I don't think there's anything you can do about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think they're completely out of control. But there's a lot that happens in the shadows that you would not approve of. And as you pointed out last time this came up, we have intelligence sharing relationships with a bunch of countries where we're not allowed to spy on our people, but they are. And say we call him up and say, hey, what did Jack Armstrong say to Joe Getty when he called him the other day? And the other country, it's not constrained, says, oh, it was this.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And remember there was a big story I don't know how many years ago and I surprised, I thought it was a giant scandal at the time. Dianne Feinstein got spied on by CIA, nsa, whoever was spying on her and she was upset about it. Should have been huge that the Intel Agency shouldn't be spying on U.S. senators.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. I would agree.

[Joe Getty]

And what happened and I've always believed this and I think we're going to learn more about it today and in future weeks. But the FBI particular, they were certain Trump was going to lose, so they thought, we can do all the spying we want, he's a bad guy, he's going to lose. Then he won. I'm talking about in 2016. And then it was, uh.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Anyway, so Pam Bondi is, she's the Attorney General and she was appearing before one of these committees where they all give speeches and try to score points and get on television and. But because this story broke yesterday, it kept coming up. For instance, this is Lindsey Graham talking to Pam Bondi.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was there ever an effort by the FBI to tell the FISA court about evidence that the man who helped prepare the document retracted his statement? I can't discuss that, Senator. Should there have been. Can't discuss that. You wonder why we're looking at Comey. Give me a break. Why are we looking at Comey? Because he ran an FBI personally knew about its gulped or information and let it slide. How in the hell can two FBI agents interview a man who says the document you're using against a sitting president to suggest he may be a Russian agent or Carter Page that is now no longer reliable. How does that not get to the court? Can you tell me how that doesn't get to the court? You can't, can you? I can't, Senator.

[Joe Getty]

So I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

That wasn't the right topic, but that was a good clip.

[Joe Getty]

So that is the whole. And this is well documented. The FBI decided to spy on Carter Page because they thought he was a foreign agent. The CIA told the FBI, James Comey. No, no, we've cleared him. He's not. And he ignored that so that he could continue to spy on Carter Page.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the Trump campaign. Yeah. The Steele dossier and the faked up FISA warrant and the rest of it. Yeah. But getting back to the phone records scandal, here's Lindsey Graham on that one. Can you tell me why my phone records, when I'm the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, were sought by the Jack Smith agents? Why did they ask to know who I called and what I was doing from January 4th to the 7th? Can you tell me that? No, Senator. And there were eight senators in total.

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Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you think that was an abuse of power? Senator, I cannot discuss whether there is or is not an ongoing investigation. If I may add one thing, they also wasted $50 million on what you just described, trying to put President Trump in jail prior to the election.

[Joe Getty]

The intelligence agencies do whatever they want, whenever they want, and never. And. And they have little to no oversight.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that one plus, you know, if you are a special prosecutor with a friendly administration in office, specifically the Biden administration, who will turn a blind, blind eye to, you know, the weaponization of the Justice Department, which the left is allegedly all upset about these days with Trump in office. Josh Hawley wanted a little bit of. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, Attorney General Bondi. Good to see you.

[Joe Getty]

Welcome.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've been listening closely in this hearing, and I've heard over and over from my Democrat colleagues concerns about targeting political enemies. And they've accused you of all manner of things. And the current president, I've also heard them said, and I just wrote it down because I wanted to be sure I heard it correctly. I've heard them say that Joe Biden never targeted his political enemies. Joe Biden never directed his Attorney General to target his political opponents. Huh. That's interesting, because I could have sworn that yesterday we learned that the FBI tapped my phone.

[Joe Getty]

Let's look at it.

[Jack Armstrong]

We've got a list. Tap my phone. Tap Lindsey Graham's phone. Tapped Marsha Blackburn's phone. Tapped five other phones of United States senators. Gee, it sure looks like targeting political opponents to me. And yet I haven't heard a word from that side of the dais about any concern whatsoever. We've got nothing but concerns today, but no concern at all for a Justice Department that is tapping the phones of sitting United States senators because who knows why they don't like them. They're members of the opposition party, they're Republicans, they're conservatives.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. So this, this principle applies to so many of our different things right now. Political violence, statements about political violence, spying, weaponizing the Justice Department, all that. Until each side starts calling out their own side, we will never make any progress.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I don't know if it's the size of the government and the budget and the ability to spread trillions of dollars around. I think it probably is at some point the incentives to be bad crowd out the incentives to be good. And I just, I don't see energy toward actual reform and straightening it out and reining in the budgets and the rest of it. I just, I don't see that, you know, you're looking for green shoots, as they say in the commentary business. I'm not seeing the green shoots. I don't think we can govern ourselves anymore.

[Joe Getty]

Like, what's the example Trump did the other day where he fired the one person and put in a new person so they could go after who when he talked about this last week or the week before, whichever one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. They were refusing to prosecute. I can't. Somebody or other.

[Joe Getty]

But anyway, you know the thing. And if, like, if Josh Hawley would say, and I don't think Donald Trump should have gone after whoever it was and Democrats. And then if you had one Democratic senator who would say it's outrageous that the Biden Justice Department was spying on Republican senators and. But that will never get anywhere until you, until somebody can ever do that. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And even if both sides are right, it just, it sounds like noise to, to most people who observe it because they don't spend all day thinking about this stuff and they shouldn't. Yeah. I don't know. I'm just discouraged.

[Joe Getty]

It is discouraging. Well, you're right. We can't govern ourselves. We no longer can govern ourselves. Good night. Good night. I don't know. I don't see how we break out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of duty and patriotism up against greed and lust for power.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know how you break out of this. Because anybody who called out their own side in an effort to call out both sides would get primaried and lose immediately. Next election.

[Jack Armstrong]

Monarchy now, that's all Prince William gets the, the helm over there in Great Britain. Why don't we say, hey, look, the whole 1776 thing, we feel bad about it. We're wondering whether. No. Being part of Britain would be a giant step in the wrong direction.

[Joe Getty]

So wise and benevolent king, that's all we need. You have more of that polling on how progressives are crazier than. Because I want to hear. I want to talk about that more.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Because I have a comment on that. That's just.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, just so much commenting.

[Joe Getty]

That's right.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a talk show.

[Joe Getty]

It's on my W2. So what I got to do, and.

[Jack Armstrong]

I want to get to the big time, solid media editorial talking about how stupid it is that all the mainstream media is referring to the guy who tried to kill Brett Kavanaugh as a woman. It's a dude. It's a dude. And finally, mainstream publications, well, the Wall Street Journal anyway, are saying, look, he's a man. Can we stop this, please?

[Joe Getty]

How recently did he decide he was a woman? It's pretty recently, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. But it got him a much, much later prison sentence because the Biden appointee judge said, oh, that's so tough what you're going through. I don't want to put you in a men's prison for a long time. I'll give you a light sentence.

[Joe Getty]

Did you do that? If you got pulled over, sure. Say, you know what? I was just driving to work and I decided, I think I'm a woman. And it was a little confusing.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you're prosecuting me because I'm transgender and my parents are mean to me because they don't accept it. So don't give me a ticket. And the trooper says, I see your point.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Drive carefully. Okay?

[Joe Getty]

We got a lot on the way. Stay here. Hi.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good night, everybody. Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

The department is now seeing a slight.

[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

So air traffic controllers are calling in sick or saying they won't go to work because they're not getting paid. And evening newscast I watched last night, it was some air traffic controller saying, how am I going to make my mortgage? Nobody's missed a dime of payment yet. We're full week away from anybody missed a paycheck. So this is some sort of political gambit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for now, absolutely. So the reason this. We started talking about this poll last hour. I was listening to a couple of people talking about the online dating world and how common it is for people to have in their profiles. No magas, but they've never come across a single person who said, nobody who voted for Kamala Harris. Like, it's common to say, I will not date anybody who voted for Trump, but unheard of, at least according to them, for anyone to say, I will not date someone that voted for Kamala Harris. And that doesn't really surprise me, I guess. And then we got this poll to back it up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I've been looking through a couple of different polls. More than 70% of single Democrats said they would not date someone who voted for Trump according to a 2020 poll. And then you've got a poll that got a lot of attention. Harris poll, I think, think it was that three times as many Democrats had ended friendships as Republicans over politics. Young people much more often than older people who think that's ludicrous. But wow. And a lot of it's tied to they. Who they are is their politics. And they see all politics as an.

[Joe Getty]

Important moral decision, not just a policy difference.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Practical application of various policies by government that really ought to stay the hell out of our lives. No, they. They associate their politics so closely with who they are. Anybody who rejects their politics is insulting them and hurting them personally. Conservatives feel that way a lot less.

[Joe Getty]

That rings true with a couple of examples I'm thinking of in my head. People actually know. But yeah, they feel like you're not just wrong about the policy, you're evil and you're judging them as. Yeah, that's interesting. You have any idea why that is? People on the left tend to be more emotional.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. And just there's this strain of thinking that, you know, generally speaking, conservatives think progressives are wrong, progressives think conservatives are evil. And I will gladly be friends with somebody I think is wrong about something. All my Friends are wrong about something, I'm wrong about something. But I'm not going to be friends with somebody I view as just clearly evil.

[Joe Getty]

True, that's true. That's true. It's hard for me to come up with an example, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would agree. Like if you're a hardcore little kids who just who decide they're the different sex ought to be whisked off to be operated on and hide it from the parents, I don't think I'd probably be friends with you.

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

As opposed. Do you believe in a bigger safety net than I do?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's. That's way beyond the pale. And that's, you know, that's a great example of how the radical like nobody was with them left became the mainstream during the madness that period of COVID and everything else where you weren't allowed to say somebody with a penis and testicles was a man and you weren't allowed to say all lives matter and you weren't allowed to say no. I think a gay adolescent boy ought to not get operations to turn himself into an imitation of a woman. I think that's sick.

[Joe Getty]

Any of out there do the online dating thing. Do you see that? No. Maga or no. Do you ever see no Kamala? Nobody who voted for Kamala or anything like that on anything. I'm just curious. Text line 415295 KFTC.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you're much much less likely to see the Kamala thing just because conservatives don't care that much.

[Joe Getty]

Right. It's not so much of your identity I think.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Yeah. Armstrong and Gettysburg.

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[Joe Getty]

Learn [e-mail] there's certainly some military lawyers.

[Jack Armstrong]

Inside the Pentagon who including international law experts who have raised concerns about the legality of these strikes against drug boats in the Caribbean. We've even heard from multiple who said they these strikes don't appear to be legal. The problem here is that Pentagon lawyers can't overrule the justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel. That's really the preeminent legal interpretation for the executive branch. And many sources told us that lawyers inside the Pentagon are effectively resigned to put their head down and eat it. One put it that way. Basically saying that they have to go along with it not to rock the boat because ultimately they know they can't do anything about it.

[Joe Getty]

I'm interesting to see when we get a final ruling on the whether or not we can blast people out of the sea because we think the drug runners and we're at war with them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because they're a terrorist organization.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Narco terrorists.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That will be determined. So before we get to our main things, we're on the topic of, I don't know, polarization and all that different sort of stuff. And then the idea that there's a lot of people apparently in online dating who have no maga. But I wonder, does anybody ever say no? Kamala. Somebody texted the comment. Not as common, but what you see is no vax. So you won't date somebody who got vaccinated. But I don't know does that. I guess it's tied into politics.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

What that is.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't. That. That. That to me is crazy too.

[Joe Getty]

To not date somebody because they got vaccinated. Yeah. I think that is crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

I caramba.

[Joe Getty]

I mean if you're. You get the new vaccination every month. Still wearing a mask person like you mentioned earlier, that that makes you a nut. But you ever got a vaccination?

[Jack Armstrong]

No. That's fine. Right?

[Joe Getty]

A couple of texts. I. I did online dating after I got divorced. I'm over the age of 50. The first person to contact me about three messages in before they started. I was only three messages in before they started to ask me about what my thoughts on Trump. Although I did not vote for Trump, I told him I didn't think we would be a good fit just because politics matters so much to you. She proceeded to start texting me about how I was a Nazi and just kept going.

[Jack Armstrong]

For not wanting to talk about.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Politics.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And then I want to get this one on because this is a good text. This was us having the conversation about Barry Weiss's Free Press organization getting bought by Paramount and then she's going to be in charge of news at cbs. And I was happy about that because I think she's just trying to do honest journalism. And I said that's kind of what we're trying to do. This person reacted.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bwaha.

[Joe Getty]

You comparing your product Horror show To Barry Weiss and the Free Press. Bwa.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ha ha ha ha.

[Joe Getty]

Guess that makes high pitched squawking menopausal Jacqueline Armstrong, your lesbian wife.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bahaha. That's an excellent bit. Enjoy that Hunter Thompson esque parody there.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know what's going on there.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's great. Oh yeah, you know what? I said I was going to bring you more of the freak out quotes from various people in the media over Barry Weiss, the female Jewish lesbian center lefty person taking over CBS News and how that was the end of the republic and ushering in fascism and the rest of it. It's just these people are out of their minds. And if you're that whipped up emotionally, I understand how they can back violence because they're like shrieking they're so upset about all of it. Well, Gavin is justified. I get it. If you're that beside yourself over this minor, you know, twist in American journalism, yes, you're probably going to commit an act of violence.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think we've mentioned Gavin Newsom all only Tuesday, but is he on vacation?

[Jack Armstrong]

What the hell is going on?

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, he said again over the weekend, I'm not sure there's going to be an election after 26 or something like that. That sort of talk is just not helping anyone.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and because Gabby, certain people believe that, right? They don't understand that you're engaging in Twitter style hyperbole to raise money and get people's attention and sell yourself as the guys fighting against Trump. They actually believe that. And if they actually believe that, I would say, you know, given Jefferson's proclamation that the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots from time to time, if you actually thought it was going to be the end of our democracy, yeah, you'd be justified in committing acts of violence. See, that's the problem, Gavin. But you don't care because you have no soul and you have no principles. So you laugh. I laugh. I might as well lecture a goat as Gavin Newsom. So I came across this yesterday that a Biden appointed judge had a seven hour hearing and gave a long speech justifying a shockingly low sentence for the 22 year old man who showed up to kill Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. He was heavily, heavily armed with burglary tools and zip ties and guns and ammunition and knives and all sorts of stuff. And at one point the judge said she was glad the crime had made his mom accept his transgender identity. And I quote from, from the judge in a more Than hour long speech just fine light sentence. Judge boardman said, quote, Ms. Roski came out to herself as transgender in 2020. This is the man who committed the crime. Came out to herself as transgender in 2020, but kept it secret. Ms. Rosky's sister came out as gay two years prior to. But Ms. Roske saw that their parents struggled to reconcile her sexuality with their religious beliefs. I am heartened that this terrible infraction has helped the Rosky family accept their daughter for who she is. His mother, Colleen, told the judge on Friday that, quote, I have attended PFLAG meetings and learned about the LGBTQ community. I am committed to going on this journey with Sophie. She was frustrated with what was going on in the world and we weren't a safe place to process it.

[Joe Getty]

Well, this leads me to believe that the lighter sentence was about the transgender stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Partly because Trump has declared men will serve out their full terms in men's prisons or whatever. And so this judge thought, oh, no, this woman. Because a 22 year old man who just says, yeah, now I'm a girl is a woman in this judge's eyes. But does it just. It was too cruel to sentence him to a man's prison for a long time.

[Joe Getty]

Well, or am I wrong?

[Jack Armstrong]

One more note from this journalist. As his mother wept, Nicholas Roski also choked up, his Adam's apple bobbing up and down.

[Joe Getty]

That's a good detail. I may have gotten lost as to which was the journalist and which was the judge, but somebody in there thinks that you're somewhat excused for wanting to kill a Supreme Court justice if you had a difficult home life around your transgender situation.

[Jack Armstrong]

Correct? Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That's nuts, if you'll pardon the expression.

[Jack Armstrong]

I will. Let's see. Earlier in the hearing, the judge lashed out at prosecutors and President Donald Trump saying, quote, let's not hide the fact that President Trump issued an executive order saying transgender inmates would be assigned to prison with their biological sexual. The prosecutor replied that there was an injunction holding up much of the enforcement of that executive order. But the judge opined about giving a shorter sentence because of Rosky's transgenderism, even as she said that thanks to a court injunction, Rosky may get female hormones in federal prison. Essentially, it's now a girl and Trump is cruel to put him her in a woman's prison. So I'm going to give her a lighter sentence.

[Joe Getty]

It's crazy that people are in support of putting someone with a penis in a woman's prison.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. To rape or do whatever else. And they're they're clearly mentally disturbed. I mean, by any reasonable definition.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I had another point on this, but there's prison and the Supreme Court. Justice, let me hit you with this.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then you jump in. So Matthew Hennessy in the opinion section of the Wall Street Journal wrote this piece. It's called Kavanaugh's would be Assassin is a man. One benefit of Donald Trump's second presidency is that Americans can talk openly about the trans delusion and what it's doing to our politics. In the cultural atmosphere of a year or two ago, I probably wouldn't say this. The person who is sentenced to Friday 97 months in federal prison for attempting to assassinate Kavanaugh, blah, blah, blah, is a 29 year old man. His name is Nicholas Roski. Most of the mainstream media and Judge Deborah L. Boardman of the Federal District of Maryland decided to endorse the fiction that Mr. Rosky is now a woman named Sophie. And then he quotes the judge. The Justice Department distinguished itself by refusing to participate in this charade. In a statement on the sentence, FBI Director Cash Patel made a point of referring to Mr. Rosky's Nicholas, which is his legal name. For a decade, trans advocates and their media allies have bullied ordinary people into silence about biographical facts, biological reality. Exactly. Somebody else. Was it this guy or somebody else said, that was very clever.

[Joe Getty]

Whoever came up with dead naming to put the word dead in there. I mean, all you're doing is giving it a different name. But you know, it fits in with that whole narrative of they'll kill themselves if you don't buy into this. Detonate.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

It sounds very dramatic.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and I love what he writes when the federal law enforcement apparatus says it's okay to not lie. Justice is served. When people no longer feel they might lose their jobs or reputations if they misgender or deadname someone, we're back on the path to sanity. And he says at one point, I can't find it. But his sex is as much a question of fact as his hometown and his age. You don't get to declare what it is. It's a biological fact. It's not a decision to be made or an opinion to be held.

[Joe Getty]

Well, especially since he was identifying his male at the time of the crime. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. Although he'd come out to himself, according to the judge.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, I'm not sure I know what that means. That'd be a hard one to. That. That'd be a hard one to prove. Not true. If you can start announcing when you came out to yourself.

[Jack Armstrong]

And yet it was good enough for a federal judge.

[Joe Getty]

That's something. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then picture this being said anywhere but on this show a year or two ago, Henninger writes, you'd have to be pretty out of touch or really committed to the bit not to have noticed how trans people have been at the center of recent episodes of political violence. Prosecutors have said that Charlie Kirk's alleged killer was in a relationship with a biological man who was transitioning genders. Minneapolis school shooter Robin Westman, born Robert, posted a manifesto in which he claimed he was tired of being trans. Police said Audrey Hale, who killed three children and three adults at a Nashville, Tennessee school in March 23, was transgender. As journalists often say, one example is a fluke, two is a coincidence, three is a trend, four puts us well into trend territory. But the media has been loathe to connect the dots. Well, how about journalistic investigations of the trend are dedicated to the proposition that trans people are more often the victim of crimes than perpetrators, so we probably shouldn't talk about it.

[Joe Getty]

Well, how do you get 3 or 4 of one particular group when that particular group is like.01% of the population? I mean, the odds of that are, like, astronomical.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, and I stand by my statement that quote, unquote, transgender people are mentally disturbed, you know, a little or a lot. I recently saw the statistics on, on sex crimes being committed. The number out of a hundred thousand people that commit six sex crimes among women, it's vanishingly small. Among men, it's troublingly large. Among transgender people, it dwarfs men per capita. They're sexually confused people. And finally, Hennessy ends. Perhaps experts in psychiatry and criminology will begin exploring the obvious but poorly understood connection, connections among mental illness, radical trans ideology, and the recent upsurge in political violence. In the meantime, the Trump administration has done a public service by refusing to bow before the liberal consensus that people can change their sex. That has released the rest of us from the obligation to play along. I never felt that obligation, but I get it.

[Joe Getty]

Isn't that one of the issues that Democrat Rahm Emanuel said the Democratic Party needs to. That was a crazy one. Putting men in women's prisons.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Yeah. I think he mentioned sports, too, but. Yeah, and he's absolutely right. You know, Rom did an interview with a lefty organization. I can't remember who it was, but. And he knows when to tack left because he came off as a full on, you know, liberal politician. So it's not like he's, you know, 90s Bill Clinton or anything but he's better than the woke lunatics.

[Joe Getty]

Okay we will what that say okay something about a shark attack. I got distracted. We will finish strong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Next Armstrong and Getty.

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Ugh.

[Joe Getty]

Come on.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Country is so incredible.

[Joe Getty]

And they got away with it with all their woke crap. And now it stopped.

[Jack Armstrong]

And we have a country that's based on common sense and strength and intelligence.

[Joe Getty]

There you go. Woke crap. And now it stopped. Good.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Canadian Prime Minister is sitting there. We're. We're still okay up here. We're still crazy.

[Joe Getty]

You're out of control.

[Jack Armstrong]

I guess I've got to sit here and take it because we're just your hat, but we're still woke.

[Joe Getty]

You know what I wish I. Oh, I forgot all about the Canada being our 51st state thing. I forgot all about that. Those were good times. President Trump's been president for what, nine months In Greenland. What happened to Greenland? Seems like many years. It's been nine months. I do not mind that I have no hair on my head. It really is not something I ever think about or, or like, what would you call it? Feel bad about or wish I could change.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Insecurity.

[Jack Armstrong]

Zero.

[Joe Getty]

I have zero insecurity about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I've got a pleasingly shaped head. You're very fortunate in that regard.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I am lucky that I don't have like a weird dent somewhere. But I do wish I could grow a mustache. I was looking at a guy, there's like a musician up on the TV playing on one of the talk the morning shows and got the mustache. I just. I really, really, really, really, really wish I could grow a mustache. I would take that over here on my head any day.

[Jack Armstrong]

What style of mustaches do you imagine wearing?

[Joe Getty]

I actually wish I had kind of the. I mentioned people that not everybody knows, like Timothy Lemay, like, not the really big butch, like I'm Saddam Hussein mustache. Just kind of the, you know, it's not so wispy that you look like a sophomore in high school trying to grow a mustache. Something in between there. I want like a medium. That's what I would like can that so. Yeah, I know you can get hair transplants on your head. Does anybody ever get their lip done? Like transplants on their lip? They take like, they take it from your lower back and graft it onto your lip or something like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a hell of a for instance. I don't know that you would think so. Sure.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you think, Katie? Grafting upper lip grafting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Plugs.

[Joe Getty]

Plugs? Yeah, plugs on your lips. How come I've ever heard of that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Whatever. Whatever will make you happy, Jack.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I'm single, so I got to think in that terms, you know, I.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don'T know if biker slash parolee Fu Manchu. What do you think of that?

[Joe Getty]

Full on biker Fu Manchu. My. The other day we were walking by a guy who had a handlebar mustache. Pretty wide one, too. And my son said, I wanted to say nice mustache, but I thought I would hurt his feelings. And I said, no way. If you have a handlebar mustache, you do that. Wanting people to look at you and comment on it. You're not like, well, don't mention my mustache. That's the whole reason for doing it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Final thoughts.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

With your hosts, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Am I wrong or right?

[Joe Getty]

If you got a handlebar mustache or blue spiked hair or a mohawk or something like that, don't you want people to comment on it? I mean, isn't that the whole point? Anyway, let's get some final thoughts. We'll start with our technical director, Michelangelo.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael.

[Joe Getty]

What's your final thought?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the holidays are here. My neighbors are setting up Halloween inflatables. I walked inside Costco, they got the entire Christmas display up. My wife asked me, what Christmas? Yeah, everything. Christmas trees, decoration, you name it. The lights, everything.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, we're three weeks from Halloween. Let's get a final thought from news person Katie Green.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I have a buddy named Jamie who's got a handlebar mustache that would put Kurt Russell and Tombstone to shame.

[Joe Getty]

And does he want people to comment? I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would assume so. Everybody does.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, of course.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a good must moustache.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's cool. That's really cool. My final thought, my son this morning by himself cooked bacon and eggs. And he sent me a picture and said it turned out really, really good. So good for him. 13 years old, cooking his bacon and eggs. He's very proud of himself. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday. So many people to thank. And oh, by the way, go to the website armstrong and getty.com Speaking of Christmas being right around the corner, we got lots of cool gear gear there that would be a fantastic stocking stuffer for that special someone. Also Katie's corner has got the video of that helicopter going down on the freeway. If you haven't seen that, lots of good stuff. [e-mail] There's a bunch of stories we'll be following for tomorrow. Whether it's the the Gaza peace deal or the shutdown or whatever the hell. We'll have the latest tomorrow for you. That's what we do here. Text line is always 415295 KFTC if you have any comments on anything from today, I'll be looking at them all day long. See you tomorrow. God Bless America.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Armstrong and Getty Show I would. I would much rather just get in a pen, be fed, be sheared every so often. Do exactly what the government tells me to do. Are there people making my own decisions is so confusing. Tell me what to do.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. Ah come on.

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