I Need A Sleep Mask For My Fish

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: I Need A Sleep Mask For My Fish
Date: January 21, 2026
Podcast Host: iHeartPodcasts
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

Episode Theme & Purpose

This episode features the signature Armstrong & Getty blend of cultural commentary, sharp political critique, and humorous banter. The central themes include:

• The cultural and political fallout from high-profile leaders' actions (sports, government)
• Intense criticism of the new film adaptation of George Orwell’s Animal Farm
• Lively discussion on disruptive activism inside churches
• Reflections on modern societal phenomena like smartphone use in kids and government “make-work” agencies
• All interspersed with personal anecdotes, sharp satire, and playful absurdity

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Aging Icons and Overstaying in the Spotlight

• LeBron James’ career trajectory (00:28)
  • Jack humorously ages LeBron: “He’s in the winter of his life. He’s in his early 60s. I don’t know how old he is. He’s old.”
  • Discussion of sports careers that overextend past their prime.
  • Quote: “He did not retire this year. He sucks. And everybody's turned on him.” – Jack Armstrong (00:28)

2. Political Personalities & Davos Drama

• Treasury Secretary Scott Bezant (03:12)

  • Armstrong recounts Bezant’s aggressive outburst at a dinner, his identity as the "first openly gay Treasury Secretary" and media double standards.
  • Quote: “He had to be separated from the guy. That’s the Treasury Secretary…openly gay, by the way, but gets no credit because he’s not a Democrat.” – Jack Armstrong (02:40)
  • Bezant’s roast of Gavin Newsom at Davos (03:32)
    • "Governor Newsom…strikes me as Patrick Bateman meets Sparkle Beach Ken…may be the only Californian who knows less about economics than Kamala Harris." – Scott Bezant (03:32)
    • Critique of Newsom's economic policies, California’s high homeless rate, and budget deficit.
    • Quote: “He is too smug, too self-absorbed and too economically illiterate to know anything.” – Scott Bezant (04:12)

• Corruption in California & City Governments (06:11)

  • Joe Getty describes “make work” city agencies and the DEI industrial complex.
  • Quote: "It's graft. Graft of a sort that would make Boss Tweed blush back in the day." – Joe Getty (07:07)

3. Exotic Cuisine: Eyeballs & South African Adventures

• The hosts recall a broadcast trip to South Africa and encountering a platter of sheep/goat eyeballs (09:09).
  • Joe: "Every time I brought it up and it made me want to vomit the first time." (08:00)
  • Jack: “I need one of those sleep masks for my fish so I can enjoy this.” (11:31)
• Humorous exchange about refusing to eat food that “looks back at you” (11:08–11:37)

4. The Animal Farm Movie Fury

• Joe Getty’s outrage at the new animated Animal Farm film (12:01–16:52)
  • Trailer presents the adaptation as a critique of capitalism rather than communism.
  • Joe’s emotional reaction:
    Quote: “They have changed Animal Farm from an incredibly eloquent, persuasive critique of socialism and communism... They have changed it to a cautionary tale about how capitalism makes people do evil things.” (13:43)
  • Comparison to perverting the meaning of A Christmas Carol (16:04)
  • Joe theatrically vows protest:
    Quote: “I will be outside that theater picketing and doing interviews about what an abortion it is, what a horror it is, how it’s murdering Orwell...” (16:20)
• Jack recommends seeing it, but with tongue firmly in cheek; Joe’s “militancy will grow.”

5. Disruptive Protests in Churches & Media Narratives

• Church Disruption Incident in Minneapolis (18:23–23:41)

  • Protesters invade a church service to target the pastor for working with ICE.
    • Audio of protestors yelling: “Where are you?…What do you do to stand up for your Somali and Latino communities?” (19:28, 28:12)
  • Hosts are livid about the lack of media coverage and “intentional strategy” to provoke violence.
    • Quote: “These people are desperate to provoke a violent response.” – Joe Getty (20:06)
    • Quote: “If that came out of nowhere, I would lose my ass.” – Jack Armstrong (22:27)
  • Joe lauds the congregants’ ability to “laugh at the guy” and promote mockery over violence.

• Don Lemon’s Commentary & Race (24:47–26:10)

  • Don Lemon links protest backlash to “white supremacy,” drawing scorn from the hosts.
    • Quote: “And the only reason derision's being poured upon you, you human disease, is that you're a gay black man in America.” – Joe Getty, mockingly paraphrasing Lemon (25:29)
  • They lampoon self-righteous activism that focuses on optics and virtue signaling.

6. Satirical “Dwarves vs Female Athletes” Segment

• Debate over the results of a physical competition between strong dwarf men and female athletes.
  • Jack: “Finally this question has been answered.” (30:43)
  • Joe: “Anybody who’s watched Lord of the Rings knew that was coming.” (31:06)
• Discussion is light-hearted, poking fun at viral internet content.

7. U.S. Foreign Policy & Trump on Iran (Brief Teaser)

• Rumors of looming U.S. military action against Iran (32:02)
  • Joe: “I think this is the patient calculating side of Trump that some of us would like to see a little more of.” (32:08)

8. Smartphones, Kids, and Dopamine

• CBS report on efforts to delay children’s access to smartphones, and non-profits teaching kids about digital addiction (32:23)
  • Brain science approach has promising results: “If you teach kids this will hurt your brain, that seems to mean something to them.” – Jack Armstrong (33:20)
  • Anecdotes about life before cellphones and skepticism toward parental justifications for kids having phones.
  • 2/3 of Gen Z now intentionally unplug at intervals, indicating rising awareness (34:47).
    • Joe: “Part of the reason I’m a little more optimistic than I used to be is…almost 2/3 of Gen Z now intentionally unplug.” (34:47)
  • Nostalgia for pre-digital attention spans and public spaces.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “He’s a combination of Patrick Bateman and Sparkle Beach Ken…” – Scott Bezant on Gavin Newsom (03:32)
• “I need one of those sleep masks for my fish so I can enjoy this.” – Jack Armstrong, on eating whole cooked fish (11:31)
• “They have changed Animal Farm from an incredibly eloquent, persuasive critique of socialism and communism... They have changed it to a cautionary tale about how capitalism makes people do evil things.” – Joe Getty (13:43)
• “I would like to get Andy Serkis’s neck in my hands like Samwise Gamgee did to Gollum, and he had it coming.” – Joe Getty (16:20)
• “If that came out of nowhere, I would lose my ass.” – Jack Armstrong, on disruptive protests (22:27)
• “It's all pretense. They're all neo-Marxists, but as Marxists, going back to…Lenin…you have to get the useful idiots to buy into the pretext.” – Joe Getty (29:08)
• “Finally, this question has been answered.” – Jack Armstrong, about the viral ‘dwarves vs athletes’ competition (30:43)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• LeBron and Aging Athletes: 00:28–01:00
• Scott Bezant vs Gavin Newsom (at Davos): 02:15–05:16
• California DEI Bureaucracy Analysis: 06:11–07:34
• Eyeball Buffet Story: 09:09–11:37
• Animal Farm Movie Rant: 12:01–16:52
• Church Protest Incident & Reactions: 18:23–23:41; 28:12 for audio replay
• Don Lemon and Racial Activism Satire: 24:47–26:10
• Dwarves vs Female Athletes Debate: 30:28–31:52
• Iran Military Action Teaser: 32:01–32:23
• Smartphones, Kids, and Dopamine: 32:23–36:09

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Engagement & Tone

• The episode maintains Armstrong & Getty’s trademark irreverence, skepticism, and willingness to provoke.
• Their dynamic contrasts Joe’s animated, sometimes theatrical outrage with Jack’s dry, occasionally deadpan retorts.
• Topical critiques are balanced by lighter, sometimes absurd anecdotes.

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For listeners: This episode will resonate particularly strongly with fans of sharp media critique, political satire, and hands-on cultural commentary—with plenty of laughs and a willingness to tackle controversial topics.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human.

[Show Announcer]

Broadcasting. Live from the Abraham Lincoln radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

LeBron James is in the winter of his life. He's in his early 60s. I don't know how old he is. He's old. But last year, last year he had a Hall of fame numbers at an age that nobody ever has. It was stunning. And if he had retired, that would have been quite a story. He did not retire this year. He sucks. And everybody's turned on him. The fans have turned on him and now the owner has turned on him in his bad.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

And. Yeah, well, it's a most common thing in the world, right? Stay at. Stay a little too long.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, he's 41.

[Jack Armstrong]

41, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Interesting. Also coming up this hour, I received an email that included a link that has made me as angry as anything I've seen in weeks.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, okay.

[Joe Getty]

You will laugh at me, then I will be angry at you as well. My anger knows no bounds. It is. I'm sorry, this is. This is podcasting. This is radio. You can't see I'm making a gesture like Moses with the Ten Commandments. Anyway, it has to do with the new major studio version of George Orwell's Animal Farm.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Getty]

I may be going theater to theater, committing acts of vandalism.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. You are upset.

[Joe Getty]

I may get on the wrong side of the law.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, okay.

[Joe Getty]

You may see me being frog marched. Perp walked in city after city across America, stateless.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is a good teaser. My son's reading Fahrenheit 451 for a high school class I was happy to see. Fits in with that Orwell stuff. You know those. That group of books that I really, really like.

[Joe Getty]

So private school. Yeah. Yeah. Not surprisingly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you all remember who Scott Besant is? Like, really remember who he is? He's the Treasury Secretary, but he's also the guy. He's a feisty dude. This story, and it was confirmed by multiple sources because it was at a dinner with 30 guests last year where he had heard the Federal Housing Finance Agency director, whatever that is, had bad mouthed him to Trump. He goes up to the dude in front of everybody at the dinner and says, why the f. Are you talking to the President about me? F you. I'm gonna punch you in your effing face. And he had to be separated from the guy. That's the Treasury Secretary who's 63 years old openly gay, by the way, but gets no credit because he's not a Democrat. You never hear it mentioned. Never hear it mentioned. If he was a Democrat, every time he is mentioned, it would be first openly gay Treasury Secretary Scott Bezant. But now you get it only counts if you're a Democrat.

[Joe Getty]

Correct.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anywho, he's in Davos, Switzerland with all the important people. And I don't know if he got into this because Gavin Newsom, the governor of California's coming tomorrow or he's already there but going to give a speech tomorrow. Probably bad mouth and his boss Trump and wanted to get ahead of it or whatever, but he got into Gavin Newsom shorts. Here it is.

[Scott Bezant]

I think it's very, very ironic that you know, Governor Newsom, who strikes me as Patrick Bateman meets Sparkle Beach Ken, may be the only Californian who knows less about economics than Kamala Harris. He's here this week with his billionaire sugar daddy, Alex Soros. And the Davos is a perfect place for a man who, when everyone else was on lockdown, when he was having people arrested for going to church, he was having thousand dollar a night meals at the French Laundry. And I'm sure the California people won't forget that.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the Sparkle Ken stuff and the sugar daddy George Soros stuff is interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Alex Soros, the. The younger who's really taken over the family business.

[Jack Armstrong]

But that's an interesting thing to say. And then he goes on with his message to Newsom.

[Scott Bezant]

My message to Governor Newsom is the Trump administration is coming to California. We are going to crack down on waste, fraud and abuse. And I was told he was asked to give a speech on his signature policies, but he's not speaking because what have his economic policies brought? Outward migration from California, a gigantic budget deficit, the largest homeless population in America, and the poor folks in the Palisades who had their homes burned down. He is here hobnobbing with the global elite while his California citizens are still homeless. Shame on him. He is too smug, too self absorbed and too economically illiterate to know anything.

[Joe Getty]

Thank you very much.

[Scott Bezant]

Let me know if you need any further clarification.

[Joe Getty]

You know, we need to isolate from the first clip the. He's a combination of something and Sparkle Something. I don't know. Malibu Sparkle Ken. Yeah, whatever that is, we need that.

What the hell is going on?

So, for the grace of God, what.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was the shot across Gavin Newsom's bow there from the Treasury Secretary? Is it what I said? Because. Because Gavin's going to talk tomorrow oh.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, he's going to show up and absolutely take a hatchet to the Trump administration. And as a complete phony con man.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I can get little shot. I don't mind him getting up there and reminding that we, the state has net migration, more people leaving than coming in. And, and the largest homeless population, the large. That's, that's underselling it. Half the homeless people in the entire country are in California.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. Well, and we just earlier in a segment for our home station, we're talking about how there's a new commission to study deaths in custody of prisoners and stuff. It was, it was started in 2024. They haven't looked into a single case. They haven't done a single case yet. It's just people on the golf course getting state salaries. Which reminds me of a great piece in the Free Press was about San Francisco, which is still corrupt as hell. It's better than it was. But it's a great study of how they started. Like the previous mayor, London breed funneled nearly $100 million. 100 million to a handful of activist staff departments that function largely as make work and vote buying schemes. The DEI industrial complex. This includes the aarac, which they wrote about. The city's Human Rights Commission, Department on the Status of Women, Office of Transgender Initiatives, Office of Racial Equity. And under all these departments, all they do is pay people to produce reports that allegedly the other people who are doing the same thing read. They never do anything except collect money. That's California. It's graft. Graft of a sort that would make Boss Tweed blush back in the day.

You laugh, I laugh.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we've got to get to the thing that made Joe so angry that he's willing to go to prison over it. But before that, last hour.

[Joe Getty]

And then I'll shift guys in prison over it. Oh, I mean, my, my trail of, of rage will not end probably till I'm in the chair. They're going to have to execute me.

[Jack Armstrong]

The topic of eating sheep's eyes came up last hour. I got a follow up to that. But first, no.

[Joe Getty]

Every time I brought it up and it made me want to vomit the first time.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So Joe and I have been to a fancy buffet that had a giant plate of eyeballs on it. A platter. Was it sheep size?

[Joe Getty]

Horrific offerings.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was it goat size or sheep size? I think it was dope, Michael. I know Katie wasn't worth the show. Were you with the show when we did? We broadcast live for a whole week from South Africa. You were with us at that time?

[Joe Getty]

Yep. You pro.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if you've heard this story, Katie, for weird reasons. We did the show for an entire week from Cape Town, South Africa.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not enjoying it so far, just to let you know. Well, Jack and I had to run for our lives to avoid being stabbed, so that was funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was. It was a cool experience, and I'm glad I got to do it. Oh, yeah, we went to this. Some of the best wine in the world comes from the Cape Town region. And we went to this fancy winery, and they had this big setup and everything, including a cheetah on the table. Like a live cheetah standing on the table with a collar on it. Oh. And all kinds of different food, including a big plate of eyeballs, which I did not have any of the. Did you pop one in your mouth or.

[Joe Getty]

I'm full. No, I'm good on the eyeballs, thank you. No, I'm not. Anybody freaking eyeball. The locals did.

[Scott Bezant]

Really.

[Jack Armstrong]

I assume people eat them. You don't just bring out a platter of eyeballs randomly.

[Joe Getty]

All right, people out.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, it wasn't a prank.

[Joe Getty]

It was a no, it was a delicacy. That may have been when I decided delicacy is a word that means stuff people ate when they didn't have enough real meat to survive. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

When you were poor.

[Joe Getty]

It's now a local delicacy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

When you saw people eating them, were they just eating them straight or was there a sauce?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't remember anybody eating them.

[Joe Getty]

No. And this is 27 years ago.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was so repulsed. I think I just got away from them there. Platter.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Scott Bezant]

Well. And.

[Joe Getty]

And we all spent some horrific time doubled over with intestinal problems.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, it sounds like a great trip. Super. But that just. I don't. I've never liked food that looks at me the. Like you get a fish at a restaurant and still got the head on it. Quit looking at me.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's just I asked the voider to put some sunglasses on the fish or blinders or something. I'd say I can't have an eyeballing me.

[Jack Armstrong]

She got them real to your eyes.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I need one of those sleep masks for my fish so I can enjoy this. But the whole plate.

[Joe Getty]

Eyeballs. Which is that why I've gone completely berserk over the Animal Farm movie? I'm serious. I am out of my mind with unhappiness over this.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's awesome. We'll hear about that next.

[Show Announcer]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

We're free.

Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy. Four legs good, two legs bad. No action. Animal shall wear clothes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Huh?

[Joe Getty]

What? We're show pigs and all animals are equal.

[Jack Armstrong]

I recognize some of those phrases.

[Joe Getty]

So far, so good. That is part of the trailer for the new animated version of George Orwell's brilliant Animal Farm that will be coming to a theater screen near you, directed by Andy Serkis, the unbelievably talented guy who portrayed Gollum in Lord of the Rings, among other things.

[Jack Armstrong]

He did.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, he did. Yeah. And he's really an amazing guy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Weird looking dude. Or was that a.

[Joe Getty]

It was CGI generated. He like did the motion capture for it. Anyway, I now. He is now on my enemies list. I don't have an enemies list. I'm going to start one. But he's at the top of it. I am. I was so horrified. Thanks first of all to Ryan in Houston who sent a link to the trailer and you're about to hear a little more of it. I was so angry having watched that right before the show. I was. I was more agitated than I'm comfortable being. And I rarely, rarely am. And I'M so pissed off I've got to talk myself down from doing something I would regret. I am thinking of coming up with some sort of way to oh, super all star cast, by the way, as Hansen reminds me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm guessing it's not because you're unhappy with the cinematography.

[Joe Getty]

Indeed. Yeah. Here. Here is the deal. And. And I've got to. It's funny. It. It made an impression on me before I get to the point of how much I knew. I cherished George Orwell and his writing and, and his wisdom. But it hadn't dawned on me how deep it was until I was fighting mad over this. They have changed Animal Farm from an incredibly eloquent, persuasive critique of socialism and communism and the road it inevitably goes down. A piece of art so exquisite PhDs celebrate it and children understand it. They have changed it to a cautionary tale about how capitalism makes people do evil things. The pigs who take over the farm and declare themselves the communist rulers and that all will be equal and share equally. To each according to his needs, from each according to his abilities, the whole communist creed. And they become monsters, slaughtering monsters, as always happens with communist totalitarian governments. Now it's that an evil capitalist gets in the pig's ears and convinces them that to profit more they should be become monsters that hurt and kill their friends.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, how did you become aware of this? Because you haven't seen the movie yet.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it's made utterly clear in the two minute trailer. In fact, here's a little chunk of the trailer. My new best friends, pigs and humans, working together. I like the optics. Oh, we love the optics. What are optics? I think it's a kind of seafood. You're wearing flows. Would you look at that?

[Scott Bezant]

I am.

[Jack Armstrong]

Everything's different. But you're still friends.

[Joe Getty]

All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others. It's full of jokes and groovy music and fun and has completely perverted the story.

[Jack Armstrong]

Huh. Well, it's as if they rewrote A.

[Joe Getty]

Christmas Carol so that, you know, Ebenezer Scrooge embraced Christmas so he could make more money from it.

[Jack Armstrong]

When does this come out?

[Joe Getty]

Soonish, I guess. The trailer's all done.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll definitely want to see that in the theater. Or where. Where.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my God. I will be. I will be outside that theater picketing and doing interviews about what an abortion it is, what a horror it is, how it's murdering Orwell, and I would like to get Andy Serkis's neck in my hands like. Like Sam Weiss Gamgee did the Gollum, and he had it coming.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you want to strangle the director?

[Joe Getty]

Metaphorically. Everyone except Joe can enjoy this movie on May 1st.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

We got a while.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my militancy will. Will grow between now and then. I'll be ready.

[Jack Armstrong]

You'll be.

[Joe Getty]

I will be ready, yes. I'll stoke it on a roughly. I figure I'll stoke it once a week for now till we get to about the middle of April. Then I'll stoke it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe you can work on your grip strength for your strangling.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy. Oh, boy. There's some stranglements coming. So have you read violence? Political violence especially? Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Have you read any interviews with the director or anything like that, what the point is or what they're trying to do?

[Joe Getty]

You know what? I'd actually read a critique of it last year that said essentially the same thing. And the. The trailer makes it infinitely clear that those. Those critiques are correct.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's wild. Does that ever happen before where you do a completely different, like, almost opposite version of a famous book or movie?

[Joe Getty]

I'm sure it has, yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure it's ever been this blatant, though. This. I mean, not only missing the point, but going with nearly the opposite of the point and claiming fidelity. The trailer opens with based on George Orwell's masterpiece, Animal Farm, and then they yank its guts out and turn it into a lie. Yeah, yeah. You people suck. And I hate you. There you go. In short, in brief, I think the.

[Jack Armstrong]

World, the country will be talking about this when it comes out.

[Joe Getty]

I'll bet.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll bet that gets a lot of attention. For better or worse, if you missed a segment of this show, get the.

[Show Announcer]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Because of the bent of the mainstream media, it hasn't gotten near as much attention as it should have. The way those crazed protesters went into a church service on Sunday in Minneapolis, disrupting a church service and screaming at the people in there and screaming at the pastor who apparently works with ICE or something like that. And it's a federal agency that exists enforcing laws that exist.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And he's a pastor, and he gets to have church on Sunday, and you don't get to go in there and interrupt everybody going in there to worship as they please. It's just. It's horrible, Horrible, horrible, horrible.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and I don't want to spend. I don't want to get into this much because we will in a few minutes, but it's an intentional strategy to provoke people into taking a swing at them. That's what they want. They're desperate for that. They want blood.

[Jack Armstrong]

This would be enough to make me want to take a swing at you?

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

If I'm in a quiet church on a Sunday and you come in and screaming like, well, listen to this.

[Joe Getty]

Where are you? Where are you? Where are you? Where are your people? Why are you not at Wimble every day fighting for the humanity standing for our people? Where are you? You drink your coffee, you got your jewelry, you have your nice clothes, but what do you do? What do you do to stand up for your Somali and Latino communities?

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not gonna comment.

[Joe Getty]

You have no comment. Exactly. Say your name. Say your name is good. Say Renee. Good.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I'm in church and you come in and scream in my face. You have your jewelry and your nice clothes, but what are you doing for the Somali community?

[Scott Bezant]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get out of here right now or I'm gonna break your effing nose.

[Joe Getty]

Well, right. And if those people actually wanted to persuade somebody or enlist local churches in helping with X, Y and Z, obviously they would never do it that way. Yeah. So I don't, I don't think they're merely unwise. I think they're absolutely trying to provoke anger and outrage and backlash because. And nobody, no God. It frustrates me sometimes, the utterly lacking in knowledge and imagination, mainstream media with their pretty, pretty faces and their, their well coiffed hair, but absolutely no curiosity, they don't get. And they won't tell you. These people are desperate to provoke a violent response. They want it to turn into violent revolution. That's why they're there. They're not unaware that they're being rude and you really shouldn't go into a church. God, they're laughing at you while you're saying that they know that they want violence. They want 10 more. Renee Goods. If they can get 10 more nice misguided middle aged ladies gunned down by ICE, that's perfect for them.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's an ugly scene in that church.

[Joe Getty]

I'd say is if you don't believe, if you don't believe me, Michael, get 10 ready. This happens to be in a different place, but this is another progressive agitator shouting at people going into and out of a place of worship, a church.

You think you're gonna bring your kids here and we're gonna spare you while you support the bombing of children in Gaza. Your parents are Nazis. You're such a Nazi little bitch.

What are you worshiping?

Look at this ass. You're Wor.

Yes.

Yeah, Move on, you punk ass. You will be judged not by a God, but by a court of law, you Nazi.

And this guy was getting in the face of dads who had a kid, like, holding hands on each side, screaming about, are you going to be little Nazis, too, because your dad's a Nazi?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God. I would not be able to control myself.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Neither would I. And into those people's credit, they laughed at the guy. The almost universal response was laughing at him, which, see, I. I would have been sorely tempted to jack the guy in the face.

[Jack Armstrong]

And if somebody could have given me the speech, your speech, before I walked in there, that. The whole point of this is they're trying to provoke you. I could have handled it, okay, but if that came out of nowhere, I would lose my ass.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and there's. There's. Certainly. There are. Some of you noticed how I made it about other people. There are some of you who might be thinking, oh, he's looking for a violent response. He's trying to provoke me. I'll let him provoke me right into a hospital bed. Okay, I'll put him there. But watching the people laugh at the guy reminded me there's some tools even more powerful than fists.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hammers.

[Joe Getty]

Hammers. Exactly. Hammers and guns. No, no, no. Laughter and mockery. And I salute those people for their, A, self control and B, grace under pressure. Anyway. But he was obviously, obviously, obviously putting you in a decision dilemma, which we've been talking about. Or the Darva thing, which I mentioned the other day, which is. Oh, it's reloading.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here. It is.

[Joe Getty]

Deny that you're. You know, that what's happening is what is clearly happening. Attack, then reverse. Victim and offender.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wish the minister. We played this yesterday when former CNN host Don Lemon was in there arguing with the preacher and said, is ridiculous. We don't have to leave. Do you know about the First Amendment, the right to protest and the minister, for whatever reason, didn't have at the ready yet. The First Amendment also includes right to freely worship, and you're interrupting that, you.

[Joe Getty]

And the right to peaceably assemble. You forced your way in here against our will. Right? And then Don Lemon with, oh, wouldn't Jesus want you to listen and talk to them as if they, the protestors screeching at him, actually wanted to talk. Don Lemon. Jesus.

Want to scrape your teeth off the ground?

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sorry.

[Joe Getty]

There he got me. So. And then Don Lemon, who's admitted to doing some reconnaissance for the group as he was embedded with them, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Here he is on a follow up.

[Joe Getty]

Podcast interview Mike number 37.

[Don Lemon]

And there's a certain degree of entitlement. I think people who are, you know, in the religious groups like that. It's not the type of Christianity that I practice, but I think that they're entitled and that that entitlement comes from a supremacy, a white supremacy.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my God.

[Don Lemon]

And they think that this country was built for them, that it is a Christian country. When actually we left England because we wanted religious free freedom. It's religious freedom, but only if you're a Christian and only if you're a white male pretty much. And so, yeah, absolutely, 100%. But it's an intimidation tactic. And you know, I said, I don't understand how I've become the face of it. When I was a journalist. I do understand that I'm the biggest name there. And I'm also, as I was on with my producers this morning, you and.

[Joe Getty]

Kylie talk all the time.

[Don Lemon]

My producers were saying, I said, how did I become the face of this? And my producer said, don, you're a gay black man in America.

[Jack Armstrong]

You were just a fair journalists trying to show people was going on. You were, you didn't have a point of view at all.

[Joe Getty]

And the only reason derisions being poured upon you, you human disease, is that you're a gay black man in America. That was, that was like art. That was really good. Art probably actually believes that. Meanwhile, here's a white woman protester talking to a black ICE officer 35.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael, be a race traitor.

[Joe Getty]

See, again, y' all are throwing race.

[Jack Armstrong]

Into all of this.

[Joe Getty]

Nobody's throwing race into this.

Street without your mask on and without your little. All right, that's, that's enough, angry white woman. I can't take any more of their, their, their, their screeching, Vassar educated voices. I just can't. It's too grating, Katie. It just reminded me of the seagulls from Finding Nemo. That's all I heard. Yeah, no kidding. No kidding. It also reminds me of, and I'll keep this vague to honor the confidence, but a friend of mine is in a position to work with athletes, quite good athletes who come from a variety of places around the globe as well as the United States. And a. An athlete from Venezuela has had a couple of people walk up to her and sincerely apologize for the terrible thing this country did to Maduro. And she has told both of them, are you out of your minds? He was a cruel dictator. What do you mean you're apologizing? It was the best thing that could have possibly happened. And they were sent away going, oh, but I keep telling the brown people how to feel. You white ladies, you're so wise, you're so smart, you're so fired up by your professors. Keep telling the brown people how they ought to feel and how they ought to act in the name of equality. Oh, my Lord, you can't parody these people.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hate Don Lemon.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I hate Don Lemon, too. He's an evil human being.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hate him.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's hate speech right there. I know it when I hear it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hate you.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, one more. Here's one of the protesters in Church 36.

Where are you? Where are you? Where are you? Where are your people? Why are you not at Wimble every day fighting for the humanity standing for our people. Where are you? You drink your coffee, you got your jewelry, you have your nice clothes, but what do you do? What do you do to stand up for your Somali and Latino communities? You have no comment. Exact.

Go ahead, Mike. Jack.

[Jack Armstrong]

I do drink my coffee and have my nice clothes. What do I do for the Somali population?

[Joe Getty]

I'm probably not a lot. My jewelry. I'm wearing a watch. I wear one, like, once a week. I'll take it off if you want. See, what you need to remember is, and nobody talks about this, and I won't waste much of your time. The pretense is standing up for your. What was it? Immigrant and Somali communities. Those people, those activists, the hardcore activists, they don't care about that. That's the pretense for tearing down Western civilization. If it's not. That's why they're the same people who are marching for transgender rights and saying similar things and screeching into the same bullhorns. And then the next day, it's Gaza. They're screeching into the bullhorns and screaming the. It's all pretense. They're all neo Marxists, but as Marxists, going back to. What was his name? Oh, right. Marx knew and Lenin knew this. Certainly you have to get the useful idiots to buy into the pretext and think they're doing the right thing. Because we few committed Marxists, we don't have enough of us to effectively overthrow civilization in the way we'd like to. So we've got to convince a bunch of soft heads that they're doing the right thing. That's what you're seeing on the street. I'll quit wasting your time and we'll go back to pretending that it's actually about immigration. And ice.

[Jack Armstrong]

So before we take a break, did you see what I tweeted out in the middle of the night? I was killing time scrolling. Somebody answered the question. If male dwarves took on female elite athletes in a variety of contests, what.

[Joe Getty]

Contest is key here?

[Jack Armstrong]

Weightlifting. The dwarves were much stronger than the twice their size female athletes. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, this has actually been like done or.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm looking at the video right here. I posted it on Twitter.

[Joe Getty]

You didn't tell me there was a video. So somebody held this enlightened contest.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I tweeted it out with. Finally this question has been answered. They had a competition to see who was stronger between tall, strong bodybuilder women and strong dwarf men. The dwarf men easily crushed them. But they had one company.

[Joe Getty]

Anybody who's watched Lord of the Rings knew that was coming. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

They had one competition where they were.

[Joe Getty]

All in like a big circle and.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was just who could push who.

[Joe Getty]

Out of the circle?

Like sumo wrestling.

Really? Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

And very quickly all the women got pushed out and it was just the dwarves. High five at each other.

[Joe Getty]

But there's a, there's a, a leverage problem there, A center of gravity problem.

[Jack Armstrong]

I actually felt like there is a great advantage to be just being. Yeah. Lower center of gravity certainly.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Every offensive lineman in football knows that. Did they have sprints though, in like distance races?

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I have a watch.

[Joe Getty]

I'm betting on the gals for that.

[Jack Armstrong]

They got a carrying thing where the girls carry the dudes or the dudes carry the girls. That's interesting. I don't know what that competition is. They have like a race.

[Joe Getty]

Ridiculous. That's what it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

What if they set it to music? They should have. We got more on the way. Stay here.

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[Joe Getty]

So according to the Wall Street Journal's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Reporting, it's still on the table for us to attack Iran. Like really attack Iran. Like regime change attacker.

[Joe Getty]

And I think it's going to happen. Oh, and I think this is the patient calculating side of Trump that some of us would like to see a little more of. Perhaps we'll see. We'll talk about it next hour.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or some claim doesn't exist.

[Joe Getty]

Oh no, that's not true.

[Jack Armstrong]

And sometimes it does. So this is a growing conversation. I'll be interesting to see where we are a generation from now on the idea of screen time for kids. Here's a report from CBS News.

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Last night, the Balance Project, a nonprofit with more than 160 chapters across the country, focused on delaying the use of smartphones for kids and encouraging more time with friends and playing outside. Nonprofit also brings speakers to schools like Bethany Barton, who's teaching these kids dopamine. Overload from their phone can make them feel angry, aggressive and tired. Is it realistic to teach this to kids? Can they really set limits? Oh, absolutely. I found when we tell the kids the science behind their brains, they're fascinated. They're also advising scrutinizing the content kids consume. Steer clear of the junk tech, the free apps and games that don't have an end. Instead, search for natural sources of dopamine.

[Jack Armstrong]

I thought it was interesting, the idea that if you teach kids this will hurt your brain. That seems to mean something to them. That report left out my favorite part, though, where the. It was some school where they do not allow. They don't allow the kids to have phones and they were in a fifth grade classroom. Like, what's your fifth grader doing with the phone anyway? In my opinion, and to each their own. But no, you're a bad parent. That's pretty young. And they. The reporter actually asked the parent, what do you do if you need to get a hold of your kid in the library? I wouldn't even dignify that with an answer. I don't know. What did your mom do when she needed. How often did your mom need to get a hold of you at the library when you were a kid? Let me see. Let me look back on my entire school career and never, not one time.

[Joe Getty]

Or how about I give you 45 seconds and you come up with an answer to that question and you're not going to need all 45. Or maybe you will.

[Jack Armstrong]

First of all, it never happened once in my life, and if it did, they'd have called the front office and said, you know, we got an emergency or whatever the hell we got to get hold of.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Right. Yeah, I, I mentioned I never got to Jonathan Hate's unbelievable piece the Devil's Plan to ruin the Next Generation podcast.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just, I hope I live long enough to see if this becomes like smoking and it just becomes insane that your kid would have a cell phone 10 years from now.

[Joe Getty]

I suspect that it will. Part of the reason I'm a little more optimistic than I used to be is I just saw a study come out that almost 2/3 of gen Z now intentionally unplug. They say, no, I got to set aside part of my. My day to get away from my phone because it's, it's ruining my brain. They are aware it in a way that I'm not sure I'd buy this entirely because I've always bought, you know, your analysis of this, which is that people who've never known the quiet of I got nothing to do, so I'm just going to look at the birds, fly back and forth, will never seek it or value it. I don't know if that's true or not. Yeah, you're wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'd like to be wrong about that. It sure makes sense. It sure does make sense to me, though, if you've never ever stood in line at the airport where you all just look around. Because that's the way it was our whole lives. I mean, try to picture that being at tsa, in a line or wherever you're doing, waiting for takeoff, and you're just looking around. You're just reading a book or talking to someone or whatever. It seems crazy now.

[Joe Getty]

About 70% of Americans. 70% of the time Americans spend online leaves them feeling disconnected and lonely rather than genuinely connected. Also, high numbers of being overwhelmed, anxious and irritable. And I think the youngsters are catching on to that. I certainly hope so.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that'd be good news. So we do a lot of segments in hours. Too many, probably. But if you can't catch them all, you should catch them in podcast form. Subscribe to Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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