I Overate Irony

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode Title: I Overate Irony
Release Date: December 5, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Length: ~41 minutes (excluding ads and promos)

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Episode Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand dives into the ironies and absurdities of recent news headlines, focusing on vaccine policy shifts, public trust in institutions, controversies in climate change science, and the human penchant for both skepticism and gullibility. The hosts mix biting satire, genuine inquiry, and personal anecdotes to deconstruct political, scientific, and social developments, always with their trademark humor and disdain for groupthink.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Supreme Court & Texas Gerrymandering

Timestamps: [00:58] – [02:37]

• The Supreme Court's 6-3 decision will allow Texas to proceed with a redrawn congressional map, favoring Republicans.

• Armstrong comments on the messy interplay between the Voting Rights Act, the 14th Amendment, and partisan gerrymandering:

  "So much gerrymandering. So all across the country, for both parties to pretend that any gerrymandering is new or unique is hilarious." ([02:04])

• Getty notes the need for a firm Supreme Court ruling to clear up conflicting guidelines.

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2. Hepatitis B Vaccine Policy and Trust in Health Authorities

Timestamps: [02:37] – [09:34]

• A federal panel has voted to end the recommendation for at-birth Hepatitis B shots for all newborns—a major win for RFK Jr.’s approach to vaccine policy.

• Armstrong reads a quote from a public health expert, which the team finds dripping with irony:

  "Today is a defining moment for our country. We can no longer trust federal health authorities when it comes to vaccines." ([04:17])

• Their take: questioning trust in CDC and health officials should have happened long before, especially after COVID-19 policies.
  Getty observes: "It's like the head of NASA coming out and saying, 'I believe someday man may land on the moon.'" ([07:04])

• A caller (pregnant woman) shares confusion over differing medical advice regarding the COVID vaccine during pregnancy, highlighting public uncertainty and mistrust.

Memorable exchange:

• Armstrong: "You can't get Covid if you get the vaccine. A lie. And they knew it." ([05:39])
• Getty: "Universal mandates. Now all these ring a bell?" ([05:02])

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3. Cultural Irony and Pandemic Memories

Timestamps: [09:34] – [10:00]

• Recapping (with laughter) how pandemic-era guidance led to absurd masking and eating behaviors:
  Getty: "Remember, when you eat, you pull your mask down, take a few bites, then you put your mask back up." ([07:23])

• They reflect on how the goal of foreign manipulation (Kremlin, etc.) is to sow confusion and undermine belief in any authority, not necessarily to promote an alternative story.

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4. Vaccine Hesitancy, Science, and Institutional Skepticism

Timestamps: [08:06] – [09:30]

• Getty expresses the desire for reasonable review—neither blind trust nor conspiracy thinking:

  "I'm not an RFK vaccine causes autism guy at all. Nor am I the medical science knows best...I would just like to know. Or have a reasonable look at it." ([08:38])

• Armstrong and Getty agree that the new Hep B policy—tying vaccination to maternal test status—is reasonable.

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5. Irony Overload & Reflections on Public Trust

Timestamps: [09:38] – [10:00]

• The hosts riff on the absurdity of the claim that "today" marks the end of trust in health authorities:
  Armstrong: "Sorry, Dave Chappelle."
  Getty: "Oh, I'm too full of irony. I overate irony." ([09:45])

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6. Climate Change Science Controversies

Timestamps: [11:05] – [34:55]

• Armstrong introduces the retracted paper in Nature that dramatically overestimated projected economic harm from climate change.

• Getty summarizes:

  "The leading science journal Nature two days ago retracted a paper...it claimed that climate change will reduce global economic output by 62% by the end of the century...when skeptical researchers took a look...they found...maybe a 23% loss...barely going to be 6%." ([22:04]–[23:45])

• The hosts criticize the incentives and "woke capture" of major journals: Getty: “The journal Nature, which is utterly a joke at this point.” ([27:52])

• They discuss coverage from the Free Press, Free Beacon, and Wall Street Journal pointing to exaggerated predictions, unreliable science, and ineffective policies.

Quote Roundup:

"In climate science, you're not supposed to look too closely at the details. For too many researchers, the goal is to produce the biggest numbers and galvanize action..." — Getty [24:35]

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7. Misinformation & Funding in the Environmental Movement

Timestamps: [29:16] – [31:40]

• Getty critiques the New York Times’ perspective that blames declining interest in climate action on "misinformation" and oil industry conspiracy, ignoring public skepticism and scientific failures.
• He contrasts funding of climate skepticism vs. major environmental groups, illustrating that anti-alarmist groups are vastly outspent but still blamed for shifting public opinion.

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8. The Future of Climate Change Activism

Timestamps: [31:40] – [32:55]

• Armstrong asks where climate activism is headed. Getty predicts:

  "People are going to realize a lot of the harem-scarem stuff is not true. A lot of the 'we have to spend trillions of dollars' was to profit cronies. A lot of the measures that have been taken have decimated economies and not really done any good. The concentration will be and should be...actual advanced technologies...and mitigation." ([33:12])

• Getty says politics is wrapped up in identity, which makes letting go of some ideas hard for climate "diehards."

  "To convince them that their politics are wrong is incredibly dislocating. It's like finding out you're adopted or something." ([34:55])

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9. Turkish Soccer Betting Scandal

Timestamps: [35:15] – [39:14]

• Armstrong covers a major match-fixing scandal in Turkish professional soccer, involving over 1,000 players, referees, club presidents, and even commentators.
• Getty and Armstrong riff on how deep the corruption goes, making the league seem more like wrestling or reality TV than a real sport.

  Armstrong: "To what extent was it real at all if the owner, the player, the ref and the guy announcing it are all in on the fix?" ([38:58])

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10. Classic Armstrong & Getty Humor & Satire

Timestamps: Throughout the episode

• Fake Trump impersonator declares victory over the hurricane season by deporting El Nino and La Nina ([14:12])
• Spotify Wrapped parody: Calculator app summarizes a listener’s usage, including “you typed boobs upside down.” ([36:42])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On CDC trust:
  "Today's the day we question health officials...You're kidding, right? Come on." — Armstrong ([04:41])

• On climate retraction:
  "Their predictions are still of the we're all going to die variety. However, even with the updated data, it's hard to take what they say at face value when they just screwed this one up so badly." — Getty ([26:18])

• On politics as identity:
  "People's politics is their identity now...to convince them that their politics are wrong is incredibly dislocating." — Getty ([34:55])

• Parody/Impersonations:
  Trump impersonator: "We deported El Nino and we deported La Nina, too. They were in our country illegally." ([14:12])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:58 – Supreme Court on Texas Map & Gerrymandering
• 02:37 – Hepatitis B Vaccine Policy Change
• 04:07 – Public Trust in CDC (Major Irony)
• 05:10 – Pregnant Woman Caller on Vaccine Recommendations
• 07:23 – Mask and Eating Rituals (Pandemic Absurdity)
• 11:05 – Retraction in Climate Change Science
• 22:04 – Economics of Climate Policy
• 29:16 – The Misinformation Narrative in Climate Coverage
• 33:12 – Prediction: Future of Climate Change Activism
• 35:15 – Turkish Soccer Betting Scandal
• 36:42 – Spotify Wrapped/Calculator Parody
• 14:12, 15:37 – Trump Impersonations

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Takeaways

• The episode is a rapid-fire critique of public institutions—CDC, climate science establishment, professional sports—with humor, exasperation, and a call for skepticism.
• Armstrong & Getty’s tone is irreverent, dismissive of easy narratives, and quick to lampoon both left- and right-wing excess.
• Irony and institutional distrust are recurring themes, delivered with sarcasm but undergirded by concern for honest debate and critical thinking.

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This summary captures the core spirit, satire, and substantive content of the December 5, 2025, episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, "I Overate Irony."

Transcript

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And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

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The Supreme Court now saying it will allow Texas to move ahead with its controversial, newly redrawn congressional map favoring Republicans in that state, potentially giving them five new House seats. A lower court had ruled the map was unconstitutional.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, boy, that's a big story. I missed somehow yesterday because, you know, Texas did that whole thing to get five more Republican seats. And then Gavin Newsom in California reacted by doing a similar thing. But then a court came in and said, no, Texas can't do that. And I thought, oh, boy, if that's the final word, that's a big deal.

But then the Supreme Court 6, 3 last night decided.

Now Texas can do that. So I don't know where we are in the race for the House for next year, but.

Gives Republicans a couple of advantages there.

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That's a legal mess. It all has to do with the tension between, you know, the, the Voting Rights act and the 14th amendment. It's just the supes need to step in and this will be hard, but they need to really rule on this stuff. There's so much other courts, guidelines they can follow.

[Armstrong]

There's so much gerrymandering. So all across the country, for both parties to pretend that any gerrymandering is new or unique is hilarious. Speaking of hilarious, I have coming up, unintentionally one of the funniest things I've ever heard. Nate Bargazi, Dave Chappelle, Jerry Seinfeld, Ricky Gervais. Name your comedian. Wish they could come up with something as funny as I'm about to have for you in this story about vaccines. So we got a breaking news story here. The.

RFK Junior Health panel is voted all Done. I'm about to cough. Who knows what disease I got?

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Oh. Oh, my God.

[Armstrong]

Monkey dying myself. Probably because I didn't get enough vaccines as a kid. They're going to end the hepatitis B shots for all newborns. A federal panel voted today to recommend halting the at birth shots for all infants for hepatitis B.

Ending the decades long recommendation that all newborns be immunized at birth. Against that. And that leads to chronic liver disease in most infected children. The vote was a victory for Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. I'm reading from the New York Times here and you need to keep that in mind. WHO has sought for decades to overhaul the childhood vaccine schedule. We all know this fear following the news at all. But the divisiveness and dysfunction of the committee in making the decision raises questions about the reliability of the process. And it left at least one critic very concerned about the future. The panel called the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, which I'm sure you're paying a lot of attention to, Katie, because you're going to have a newborn here pretty soon.

[Getty]

I am.

[Armstrong]

And you have to go through this whole thing. Yeah. Voted 8 to 3.

Pretty solid vote there. 8 to 3. That women who test negative for the virus should consult with the health care provider and decide when or if their child will be vaccinated against the virus at birth. Hep B, as opposed to it being mandatory. Are you ready for the unintentionally hilarious.

Quote here? Written as if it's a joke?

For many public health experts, the vote also marked the end of trust in the cdc. Here's the quote. That's already funny.

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That's already pretty good. That's already a howler than that. Bring it.

[Armstrong]

That's already a howler. Here's some guy. They're quoting a public health expert at the University of Minnesota. Today is a defining moment for our country. We can no longer trust federal health authorities when it comes to vaccines.

[Pregnant Woman Caller]

Oh, geez.

[Armstrong]

My God.

[Getty]

How can you say that? Astonishing.

[Armstrong]

Coming out of the pandemic with a straight face. Today's the day we question health officials. You're kidding, right? Come on.

[Getty]

Vaccines for 20 year old soldiers for kids.

[Armstrong]

You can't. You can't catch the virus if you get the vaccine.

[Pregnant Woman Caller]

Oh my God.

[Getty]

Universal mandates. Now all these ring a bell.

[Armstrong]

Today is the day. You must have a Netflix special coming. You are hilarious.

[Pregnant Woman Caller]

You know, Covid's, where a lot of the hesitation on my end has come from. I mean, we've talked about it and like the whole vaccine thing but that really was kind of where my brain went. What is in these things?

[Armstrong]

Well, and then, at the very least, everybody's brain went to, oh, you're full of crap a lot.

[Getty]

Right?

[Armstrong]

Oh, okay. You say all kinds of stuff that you know is not true. Oh, okay. Well, never mind.

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For my own good, as you see it. Right.

[Armstrong]

I won't pay attention to you at all anymore.

[Getty]

Stand six feet away.

[Armstrong]

Stand six feet away. Completely made up. You can't get Covid if you get the vaccine. A lie. And they knew it.

[Pregnant Woman Caller]

And it's been interesting going to. You know, I have several doctors that I go to, and I have one that is pushing for me because I didn't get the COVID shot. And I'm. They're pushing for me to get it while pregnant. And another doctor was like, don't do that. So I'm like, I'm obviously, I'm not going to, but it's just interesting to have two different providers telling me opposite things.

[Armstrong]

They want you to get a Covid shot?

[Pregnant Woman Caller]

They want me to get it now.

[Getty]

Yeah.

[Armstrong]

Is that a state, California thing, or is that a federal thing?

[Pregnant Woman Caller]

No, I. I don't know what it is, but.

[Getty]

And, you know, physician's recommendation. I don't think it has anything to do with the government at all.

[Pregnant Woman Caller]

Does it? Yeah, yeah. I just. It's just the doctor's pride, like, because my other doctor was like, dad, no.

[Armstrong]

I don't know what the current CDC guideline is on that stuff because I stopped paying attention to them a long time ago.

[Getty]

Yeah, it's just. Thank God. Recommendations at this point. But. Yeah, that's interesting, huh?

[Armstrong]

I gotta read that again.

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Young woman like yourself, I gotta read this again.

[Armstrong]

Just because it is so funny that they voted 8 to 3 that you don't have to get the Hep B vaccine for your kid. Today is a defining moment for our country. We can no longer trust federal health authorities. Oh, my God.

[Getty]

Wow. It's like the head of NASA coming out and saying, I believe someday man may land on the moon. You'd be like, wait, how do you.

[Armstrong]

Not know that's your feet?

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It's one of the greatest scandals in.

[Armstrong]

The history of medicine.

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Yeah. Okay, that's it. I'm checking out.

[Armstrong]

That is really some good stuff right there.

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Remember, when you eat, you pull your mask down, take a few bites, then you put your mask back up.

[Armstrong]

Yes, you can. You can. You can eat at a restaurant, but you gotta wear a mask from the door to your booth. Then you can sit with a whole bunch of people with your mask down.

[Getty]

Cause that's still got people wearing masks, alone in their car, who really ought to be in state mental health facilities. But. Okay, all right. I just. You know what? This is. And this is what discourages me even more than I'm already discouraged. This has long been the goal of the Kremlin to sow seeds of conflict and doubt. Not so that Americans believe a particular narrative, but that we don't know what to believe.

[Armstrong]

Right.

[Getty]

And the fact that, you know, if you are a person of decent, you know, morals and intellect, you could easily say. All right, so a lot of these vaccines have been around for decades. The number of them has gotten really impressive. What was the original need for that vaccine? Do those circumstances still exist? Would it hurt to hold off for a couple of months? How often are kids likely to be infected? Blah, blah, blah. Let's take a look at this thing. Uh, top to bottom. Rejigger it. And I'm not an RFK vaccine causes autism guy at all. Nor am I. The medical science knows best. We wouldn't want to shake people's ironclad faith in the CDC sort of jackass either. I would just like to know. Or have a reasonable look taken at it. But no, it just goes right to Trump and Mahan, RFK Jr. Who's a ambulance chasing lawyer, by the way. Anyway, I just. Y', all, I don't know.

[Armstrong]

On this one, it sounds to me like. And I don't know anything about this, so I probably shouldn't be spouting off, but. So women who don't test. Who test negative for hep B, you don't have to get the shot.

[Getty]

That's not.

[Armstrong]

That's reasonable.

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And women who test positive or status unknown probably ought to be immunized.

[Armstrong]

It doesn't.

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Pretty reasonable.

[Armstrong]

That doesn't seem crazy. I don't know.

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A dark mark on the American soul. We can no longer try trusted worship the cdc.

All right. Irony is dead. Long live irony. That was just too ironic.

[Armstrong]

Sorry, Dave Chappelle.

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Oh, I'm too full of irony. I overate irony.

[Armstrong]

Nate Bargazi will never craft a joke as good as that one. Today's the day we lost trust in the cdc. Oh, my God. I'm crying with laughter.

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You're not going to tell us here a little bit later in the hour that we can no longer trust climate scientists either, are you?

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Oh, good Lord. Have you heard about the big retracted paper in nature which is itself just a woke crock of crap. Good lord.

[Armstrong]

What can I believe in anymore?

[Getty]

Lies. So many lies. What?

[Armstrong]

What can I believe in anymore?

You've been enjoying that super moon, man. I have last couple of nights. That is a pretty good harvest. December blue super muskrat moon we got going. Catch.

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It's cloudy and it ruins everything.

[Armstrong]

Ruins everything. So I did actually. So this is two. Two moons in a row. So two months in a row where they had teachers on TV talking about kids being difficult to deal with. And remember last month I talked about two different healthcare professionals that said to me, oh yeah, it's going to be a wild weekend because of the full mo. When did that become.

Has that always been. Everybody knew that and I just missed it or something. I didn't know that it was solid science, that when there's a full moon people go nuts.

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Solid science or just anecdotal statements by a couple of healthcare people accepted?

[Armstrong]

Like I said, I saw it on the news yesterday that it's just conventional wisdom now.

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Has it always been or is it confirmation bias?

[Armstrong]

I don't know.

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It could easily be confirmation bias.

[Armstrong]

Do you feel crazier this week? I might feel crazier this week.

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I'd have to think about it.

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Cougars for Luigi. There's the Mangionistas they call themselves. Yeah, I know. A bunch of weirdos.

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The writing. So the voice is really good, but the writing is stunningly good.

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[Armstrong]

Wow. You know, that's not that far off. Something Trump would say. Well, no.

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[Armstrong]

Now, I remember we talked about this the other day. So if it is porn, you. It is a tip. So you don't get taxes?

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[Armstrong]

But strippers get tips and. Is that porn? That's not porn. So they get tips and they shouldn't have to pay taxes.

[Getty]

Yeah. Here's a tax preparer talking to the New York Times. Ultimately, it would be the subjected determination of an IRS examiner, a tax court judge. Something you look at. Sometimes you look at something and it's clearly pornography. But sometimes you look at something and you think, yeah, it's subjective. Somebody might be really into it.

[Armstrong]

But I generally get the whole. I know pornography when I see it. And. But strippers not being pornography, that's a little. I don't know, I don't understand that at all. Oh, I have got to take this phone call.

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Professions that do enjoy tax exemptions on their tips include bartenders, waiters, non radio DJs, maids, plumbers. You're supposed to tip your plumber. Wait a minute.

What they charge? Are you kidding me? Oh, boy. And I've done it wrong.

[Armstrong]

Yeah.

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Golf caddies and several dozen more. Okay, fine. And then this. And I hate that. Jack's missing.

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But he needs to deal with family stuff. Wild chimps consume more alcohol than anyone expected. Brand new study out of the University of Cal Unicornia at Berserkley. Chimpanzees naturally ingest surprising amounts of alcohol from ripe, fermenting fruit. Careful measurements show their typical fruit diet can equal one to two human drinks each day.

[Armstrong]

Whoa.

[Getty]

Chimps are taking the edge off. Getting a little buzz on, on a daily basis.

Considering the fact that one chimpanzee could tear 10 men apart who are trying to fight it. Yeah.

[Pregnant Woman Caller]

Then get them drunk.

[Getty]

Oh, my God. Drunk up. Yeah.

[Armstrong]

And.

[Getty]

And you know, there's some actual science involved here because there's been what's called the drunken monkey hypothesis. Hypothesis.

That alcohol exposure is not a modern human invention, it's an ancient primate habit. And this is really lending credence to that. So the science and the anthropology is pretty interesting. But chimps are famously, sometimes murderous and rapey. Is it because they're drunk and they, like, they go off in a way that normally they wouldn't just snap? I've known a couple of people who were delightful people, but when they got drunk, they went dark.

[Pregnant Woman Caller]

Yeah.

[Getty]

In a way that I'm such a happy drunk, I can't. I can't relate to it at all. I love everybody.

But, yeah, interesting. The drunken monkey hypothesis.

All right, well, you'd have to be a drunk monkey to be buying the climate scam at this point. Yes, the climate is changing. Should we spend trillions of doll dollars on crap that doesn't work just to please Greta Thunberg? No, no, no. The activists don't seem to understand why everybody's changed their minds.

[Armstrong]

That coming up.

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Ryan Cole Jr. A 30 year old white man from the D.C. suburbs is charged with transporting an explosive device in interstate comm and with malicious destruction. Why Jake Tapper said the bomber was a white man when he is clearly a black man. Nobody's quite sure. It was an odd moment. Did Jake ad lib that? Was it written for him? We don't know and it has nothing to do with this segment's topic. But it's an opportunity to kick Jake Tapper in cnn. So having administered that kicking, I just, I didn't want to. Too many segments to go by without getting back to that. A word about the climate scam. Is the climate changing? Yes, of course it is. The climate's always changing. Is it man made or man cost? Yeah, in part, probably so, yeah. Is it worth spending trillions and trillions of dollars on insufficient technologies that won't do any good and will decimate economies? Good Lord, no. Bull.

Yeah, say what you want, Al, you got fat and rich on this stuff. And I, you know, I admire your cleverness. You got in early on the scam, but some great coverage. I'm going to go from the Free Press to.

To the Free Beacon to the New York Times, God help us. Great piece in the Free Press. First, have you heard how by the end of the century climate change will cut the world's economic output by 2/3? Big giant paper in the journal Nature came out not long ago. Two thirds of the world's economic output will be eliminated. How Australia's Great Barrier Reef, one of the natural wonders of the world, is disappearing. How the island nations of the Pacific are sinking into the sea. If you've even glanced at reporting on climate change, you've heard all of these things and more. It's always a minute to midnight and we're looking at the barren desert of the world where humanity's last stragglers will scrape for seeds in the grid of the hot wind. That's some good writing. I like that. But these grim predictions are almost always based on crappy science. And while we hear a great deal about the cost of climate change, we hear far less about the cost of climate hysteria. Both the direct financial costs of all the programs meant to save us from it and the damage it flicks on. The proper practice of science, which I thought was a great point. And I'd love to, I'd love to go deep on that, but you know, you know, we got to move on. Always the never ending Hurtling forward. So the leading science journal Nature two days ago retracted a paper that had made enormous impact on the climate science world. It claimed that climate change will reduce global economic output by 62% by the end of the century. It was, as the Washington Post reported, the second most cited climate paper of the year and the one that helped define the debate. But when skeptical researchers took a look at the math, they found that the underlying data indicated not a 62% loss, but maybe a 23% loss. And by 2050, it wasn't going to be a 20% loss of economic activity. It was barely going to be 6%.

[Armstrong]

Michael, can you play the door open? Hey, everybody, I'm back.

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Jack's back.

[Armstrong]

I left a few minutes ago. My son is in the hospital and the hospital called. And I know what your experience has been, but mine has been if you don't take those calls when you get them, it is going to be really, really, really hard to talk to that doctor later.

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Oh, yeah, you could get the President on the line more quickly than you could get that doctor on the line.

[Armstrong]

And I always like how they, if they do leave you a message. Yeah, so call me back. We missed you. Yeah, I'd like to. What number?

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Oh, no, I wasn't, I wasn't implying that I would ever pick up or talk. You should just call me back.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. Anyway, so we're talking about climate change, if I remember correctly.

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Well, yeah, right.

[Armstrong]

And.

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And this writer makes a great point. I think that these numbers may have already made your eyes glaze over. And that's part of the point. In climate science, you're not supposed to look too closely at the details for too many researchers. The goal, the researchers, the goal is to produce the biggest numbers and galvanize action. And then when peers check their work closely, they often find howlers. In the Nature paper, a series of data errors linked to temperature in Uzbekistan appears to have tripled the projections. And then they go into the bleaching of the Great Barrier Reef and all this other stuff that's just not happening. And, man, one of the best pieces of journalism I've read on this recently was the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday. We talked about this, talking about the price of Europe's green energy overhaul and how they were told it would lower costs, save the environment and stimulate the economy.

And costs have skyrocketed. It wrecked the economy and done s worth of good. Anyway, the good [e-mail] pointing out this, nature retracting that paper early 2000s.

[Armstrong]

Tom Friedman in the New York Times was really big on writing. So this early 2000s, you know, after Al Gore decided, well, I guess I'm not going to be president, I'll become a billionaire by getting involved in this whole climate thing. And Tom Friedman used to write column after column about the green energy economy and how much money there's going to be made and how that's the future of the world and everything like that. Well, there was a lot of money to be made and it was a future for a lot of people, but.

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It was a scam and it was taxpayer money primarily, and it didn't do any good. They actually mentioned Bill Gates softening his language in October at that COP 30 summit cut down on the doomsday rhetoric. But Nature said in a statement on their website explaining this retraction, the authors acknowledged that these changes are too substantial for correction leading to the retraction of the paper. Their predictions are still of the we're all going to die variety. However, even with the updated data, it's hard to take what they say at face value when they just screwed this one up so badly. In one of the major scientific journals in the world. On the topic of the journal Nature, which was like so many institutions like the American Medical association, the American Academy of Pediatrics used to be respected, but now it's been captured by Wokists. There's a great story in the Free Beacon about this professor at the University of Southern California, Anna Krylov, who's an immigrant from Russia and a respected chemist who blew the whistle that Nature announced in October. This October, it was explicitly encouraging authors to include a citation diversity statement in their articles. The statement would affirm that they had made an effort to cite from a diverse group of researchers and acknowledge citation imbalances based on race and gender.

[Armstrong]

Wow. So the world is gonna come to an end in your world because of climate change. But still, the most important thing, before we can even take a look at those numbers, is making sure you have the right ratio of male, female, different skin colors and, and sex orientations.

[Getty]

Right, yeah.

[Armstrong]

Still prioritize that. That's hilarious.

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I noticed there are no trans scientists cited in this study. Can you go back please and work on it some more? Yeah, this is the. The journal Nature, which is utterly a joke at this point and good for Anna Kryloff and in blowing the whistle on it, but it's kind of a sidelight. So my final note on this is an absolutely head slapping long piece in the New York Times. Who wrote this tripe? Uh, let's Name names. Let's see. Lisa Friedman and Stephen Lee Myers. It is a long article entitled Many Fighting Climate Change Worry they are losing the information war. Shifting politics, intense lobbying and surging disinformation online have undermined international efforts to respond to the threat.

And they go on paragraph after paragraph after paragraph explaining why the bloom is off, the climate change fighting rose. And they never even nod their tip their cap at the notion that, well, as we've been explaining, the science is crap, the technologies that have been adopted have been incredibly expensive and ineffective. Mitigation is a much better answer. And taxpayers have realized they've gotten hosed. They never even recognize that in the giant New York Times article.

And as Andrew Follett points out in the National Review.

Blaming messaging difficulties and conservative misinformation for the movement's retreat is exactly backward. The New York Times recently told readers that declining worldwide interest in global warming is due to an alleged shadowy conspiracy by the oil, gas and coal industries, which continue to downplay the scientific consensus that the burning of fossil fuels is dangerously heating the planet. The Gray lady then goes on to complain that Russia, Saudi Arabia and of course Donald Trump promoted disinformation on social media platforms, quote, that have long been dismissed as conspiracy theories. And they blame the misinformation for the failure of a recent global warming summit in Brazil. Yet about the only thing the summit could agree on was hating climate deniers. And they put out a big statement about misinformation, denialism and how governments needed to attack that. In other words, all the world's environmentalist minded politicians could do was make a statement encouraging removing their political opposition from social media. And many of the environmentalists among American academics and politicians agreed with them.

In terms of expenses. Oh, the irony is that environmentalists spend orders of magnitude more on what was caused disinformation and corruption than their opposition. The largest US anti climate alarmism think tanks are the libertarian Competitive Enterprise Institute, the CEI which spent $8.6 million last year, total on all of their programs, 8.6 and the Heartland Institute which spent $3.7 million again on all of their causes, including anti climate change hysteria in contrast.

So that's a total of about 14 million bucks. In contrast, environmental groups are spectacularly well funded. Last year the Sierra Club spent $173 million alone, the National Resources Defense Council spent $220 million and Earthjustice spent $152 million, funding which was almost exclusively dedicated to energy or environmental issues. So the so called disinformation groups are lilliputians compared to the herd of elephants which is the anti climate change spend trillions of dollars lobbying groups.

[Armstrong]

So where do you, where do you think this is? Do you think it's dying out and like 10 years from now not a lot of people will be talking about.

The threat of climate change and trying to raise money for it and get people all worked up about it or.

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[Armstrong]

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It's the way I started the segment, which is people are going to realize a lot of the harem scarum stuff is not true. A lot of the we have to spend trillions of dollars was to profit cronies. A lot of the measures that have been taken have decimated economies and not really done any good. And so they will, the concentration will be and should be should always have been actual advanced technologies that can provide energy without carbon emissions. Nuclear for instance, and future technologies that, that we can't even imagine. And mitigation. You know, I'm always saying sell your park, buy some shorts. I'm only half kidding. Russia and India and Singapore Your third. Indonesia. Your gigantic third world countries that can barely feed their people are like, wait a minute, you want me to kneecap my economy? Which we've barely got going in the name of climate change. Screw that. We'll build a jetty or two to hold back the water. We gotta feed our people. And that'll be the emphasis. Mitigation. And you know what? Honestly, 10, 15 years from now, who knows, we may discover something new about the. The climate that says, oh, turns out the effect of this, it kind of double reverses. And now we're getting colder. Who knew? So, yeah, mitigation. Smart investments, always. I wish I was on the take from the oil companies. I could use the spending cash, but I'm not. This is just. It's. It's the truth as I see it, and I'm pretty confident it's the truth.

[Armstrong]

Man, it's gonna be hard for some of the die cards to give up on it.

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Oh, yeah, because it's like a religion for them. And I don't mean they are.

[Armstrong]

I don't even mean people profiting from it. People that just personally care so much about climate change.

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Yeah, I heard a great discussion of that. Just more generally in terms of politics, that people's politics is their identity now. Yeah. And. And to convince them that their politics are wrong is incredibly dislocating. It's like finding out you're adopted or. Or something. It's. It's very difficult for people to do in a way that's probably not healthy.

[Armstrong]

Now we've got a soccer betting scandal, fixing games and whatnot. This is becoming a real problem worldwide.

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Yeah. Team scored twice in an hour. And everybody said that's impossible.

[Armstrong]

That can't be on the up and up.

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This is exciting.

[Armstrong]

That and other stuff on the way. Stay tuned.

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Well, everybody, this week everyone's been sharing their Spotify wrapped.

[Armstrong]

You know what I'm talking about?

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No. Yeah. It's when Spotify puts together a little recap of your listening stats for the whole year. But Spotify isn't the only app that does this. Oh, now check out what people got.

[Armstrong]

In their phones earlier today.

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[Armstrong]

Twice.

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And you calculated how much more money you need to quit your job. 45, 671 times.

[Armstrong]

Wow.

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Wow.

[Armstrong]

I don't know. Made me sad. For some reason, I'm thankful that I do not have a job where I every day calculate. How many more days do I have to do this? Because I've had jobs like that. Oh, yeah, and it sucks. I'm glad I wasn't betting on Turkish soccer.

This is fairly corrupt. The bust this week of a massing betting investigation into Turkish professional soccer. It's the biggest sport in that country, as it is in most countries around the world that aren't the United States. Over 1,000 players have been suspended, including top tier players from the major clubs.

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How many players are there in this league?

[Armstrong]

149 referees.

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Oh, boy.

[Armstrong]

Arrest warrants have been issued for dozens of individuals, including club presidents, referees and commentators. So you had, you had soccer matches where the president of the club is corrupt, the players are corrupt, the referee's corrupt, and then the guy announcing the game is corrupt.

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I'm at a loss for how the guy announcing the game, maybe, maybe he just has to be bought off. Not to say, you know, the goalkeeper clearly let that ball in. Wait a minute. What just happened here? Or you want him on the tape?

[Armstrong]

That wasn't a foul. What the. What are you talking about? Right? They just don't want that, right?

To what extent was it real at all if the owner, the player, the ref and the guy announcing it are all in on the. On the fix it's really WWE at that point.

[Getty]

Yeah. For all I know, the fans are getting 10 bucks a piece to keep.

[Armstrong]

Their mouth, cheer or boo at the right time, right?

[Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

[Armstrong]

Wow. How long would it take to turn that around and have anybody believe it's real and continue to bet? But obviously people were betting.

To the extent that it was worth paying off a thousand players and owners and referees and announcers and everything like that.

The scandal has caused serious disruption. Lower division matches have been postponed. There's a growing concern over integrity in Turkish and European football broadly. Just because the owners, the players, the refs and the announcers were all on the table.

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This guy mowing the field on the.

[Armstrong]

Up and up, right?

[Getty]

Yeah. Wow. Growing concern. Yeah, it ought to be.

[Armstrong]

Guy out there parking the cars in the furthest away lot.

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You.

[Armstrong]

You got a. Back in. Well, back in. He's on the take.

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If I had the time, I would love to study Turkish culture and politics more there at the nexus between the, the, you know, European world and the Muslim world. Really, really interesting. And Erdogan is half a dictator and it's just really, really good stuff. Oh, which reminds me, I heard some really, really thought provoking talk about the nature of Islam in Europe that I'd love to get to next hour. If you don't get next hour, you got to go somewhere. That's fine. Subscribe to our podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand. You can listen to it later.

[Armstrong]

Oh, man. At your leisure. As you're driving around all weekend, shopping.

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[Armstrong]

You can enjoy your favorite segments over and over with the kids in the back seat. Huh? That's some good stuff. Armstrong and Getty on Demand. We have a fourth hour coming. Is that true? Is that what I understand?

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