I Sometimes Forget To Wear Pants

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: I Sometimes Forget To Wear Pants
Date: February 23, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, Katie Green
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, alongside Katie Green, dissect a range of hot-button issues: political gaffes, identity politics, the Epstein conspiracy’s ongoing cultural resonance, astonishing AI advancements, the social effects of technology, the violence erupting in Mexico after the death of a major cartel leader, and more. The tone remains irreverent, skeptical, and conversational, marked by the hosts’ trademark humor and pointed commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Political Gaffes and Identity Politics

• Gavin Newsom’s Speech to a Black Audience

  • Newsom attempts relatability by referencing his low SAT score (960), saying, “I'm not trying to impress you. I'm just trying to impress upon you. I'm like you. I'm no better than you.”
  • The hosts scrutinize the implications and tone-deafness of this approach, with Armstrong expressing discomfort and Getty providing context on Newsom’s dyslexia and a broader tradition of “populist pitch.”

  Notable Quotes:

  • “So am I. Is there any way to interpret this other than Gavin Newsom got up there and said, hey, I'm dumb just like you black people, so I understand.”
    — Jack Armstrong (04:01)
  • “Look, I'm a half wit. I can barely even read. I'm no better than the dumbest guy you know, so make me president. What the hell kind of pitch is that?”
    — Joe Getty (04:19)
  • “It's interesting, though. I want people who are better than me. I want people that are smarter than me.”
    — Jack Armstrong (06:43)

  Timestamps:

  • Newsom quote aired: [03:12]
  • Hosts’ reactions: [03:51]–[06:47]

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2. The Epstein Files and Conspiracy Culture

• Recent Events:

  • A 21-year-old man was shot dead at Mar-a-Lago after a standoff with Secret Service; the suspect had fixation on Epstein-related conspiracies.
  • The Telegraph reports Epstein hid documents in storage units, fueling further speculation.
  • The hosts highlight how Epstein mania crosses political boundaries and critique the “rabid conspiracy nuts” who propagate related theories.

  Notable Quotes:

  • “If I believed all our Hollywood elite and government elite of both parties were murdering babies, raping babies and then murdering them and eating them, I'd be pretty upset too. But you know how to wrap my head around that sentence I just said.”
    — Jack Armstrong (10:55)
  • “This is going to be going on the rest of my life. Okay, Maybe I'll tote a shotgun down to Mar a Lago and commit suicide by cop.”
    — Joe Getty (12:24)

  Timestamps:

  • Mar-a-Lago incident & Epstein conspiracy: [09:30]–[13:13]

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3. The ‘Killer Clowns’ of Online Outrage: LifeTouch/School Photos Scandal

• Viral Backlash and Irrationality

  • LifeTouch, the iconic school photography company, is embroiled in controversy after its parent firm’s loose connection to Leon Black, a financier with Epstein ties.
  • School districts start dropping LifeTouch contracts amid conspiracy-driven backlash.
  • Armstrong and Getty use this as an example of how mass panic is undermining rational civic life.

  Notable Quotes:

  • "If I were going to offer an argument against democracy, I could win the day with eight words. …Killer clowns at the edge of the woods."
    — Joe Getty (15:13)
  • “You shouldn't vote. Or probably drive. Or probably reproduce.”
    — Jack Armstrong (18:25, 18:32)
  • "Morons."
    — Joe Getty (18:38)

  Timestamps:

  • LifeTouch/Epstein connections: [15:00]–[18:48]

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4. Artificial Intelligence: The Technological Sea Change

• AI as Search Engine and Developer

  • The hosts discuss AI’s transformative impact, from chatbot boyfriends (and the grief when GPT-4 model “died”) to automating app development and personal productivity.
  • Elon Musk’s prediction that “nobody will write software by year’s end” is debated.
  • Katie Green gives a hands-on review of new Meta AI glasses (“They’re sick”), noting how they allow hands-free use, photo-taking, live object recognition, and interaction through voice.

  Notable Quotes:

  • “We're dying as a species.”
    — Joe Getty (22:52)
  • "They took him. They murdered him."
    — Read by Jack Armstrong (22:23, quoting a woman on her lost chatbot boyfriend)
  • "I do look like a bit of a hipster in them, but I can deal with that."
    — Katie Green (25:10)

  Timestamps:

  • AI film and tech discussion: [19:25]–[24:45]
  • Meta smart glasses: [24:45]–[26:44]
  • Chatbot boyfriends and consumer psychology: [21:45], [22:23], [24:49]–[27:05]

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5. Mexican Cartel War After El Mencho’s Death

• Coverage of Mexico’s Violent Unrest

  • Explosions, deaths, and chaos spread across Mexico after the military kills El Mencho, the country’s most wanted drug lord.
  • The show details cartel firepower (rocket launchers, armored vehicles), government operations, and the broader threat to civil order.
  • The hosts draw lessons about how fragile rule of law can be and how difficult it is to restore once lost.

  Notable Quotes:

  • “You don’t want to lose your rule of law because it’s so hard to get back… to win it back, it will be a war where many, many people will die and be grievously wounded.”
    — Joe Getty (35:47)
  • “The cartels have been run in Mexico for a long time or doing whatever the hell they want. We all know at one point they even had a president on the payroll.”
    — Jack Armstrong (34:13)

  Timestamps:

  • News segment and discussion: [30:09]–[37:18]

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6. Luxury Consumerism & AI as Financial Advisor

• Jack’s Experience With AI & High-End Goods

  • Jack describes asking Claude AI to “talk him out of” buying an expensive suit — receiving a remarkably effective combination of “dad,” “minister,” and “financial advisor” arguments in return.

  Notable Quotes:

  • “It was like talking to your dad, a minister and a financial advisor all at once… I felt like I was like kind of. I'm sorry, I shouldn't even have thought of it. I mean, I felt embarrassed to the. Wow, Claude. That I even brought it up.”
    — Jack Armstrong (29:30)

  Timestamps:

  • Reflections on AI’s guidance and luxury shopping: [27:58]–[29:43]

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Memorable, Humorous, or Striking Moments

• “I pick my nose in public. I sometimes forget to wear pants. I haven't paid taxes for 11 years.”
  — Joe Getty (06:54)
• “Morons.”/“Oh, my God. You shouldn’t vote. Or probably drive. Or probably reproduce.”
  — Joe Getty, Jack Armstrong [18:32]
• “Killer clowns at the edge of the woods” (the phrase returns as shorthand for mass panic and online mob irrationality throughout).

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Additional Segments & Observations

• Meta AI Glasses:
  Quick review by Katie Green: They're light, have good sound, take hands-free photos, and could represent the next ubiquitous technology ([25:10]–[26:44]).
• AI Boyfriends:
  Discussion about the emotional dependence on AI and the weirdness of grieving an algorithm ([22:23]).
• Mexico’s Status:
  Ongoing violence and risk, warnings to US tourists, and a look into how lawlessness takes root ([30:09]–[37:18]).

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Takeaways

• The show maintains its signature mix of biting wit and serious skepticism, whether dissecting US politics, societal overreactions, or technological advances.
• There’s a running critique of mass irrationality in both political and consumer life—“killer clowns” being the icon for this theme.
• The increasingly intimate relationship between humans and AI—whether as information seeker, emotional companion, or personal advisor—emerges as a motif, hinting at profound cultural shifts ahead.

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For Listeners:

This episode is a quintessential survey of contemporary American anxieties and curiosities, balancing humor, criticism, and a strangely hopeful awe at technological progress.
Perfect for:

• Anyone seeking entertaining reflections on current events, tech, and culture
• Those curious about how old scandals and new gadgets intersect
• Listeners who like their news unfiltered and unsparing, but not without laughter

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Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Announcer]

broadcasting. Live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I tell you what I just told my people two minutes ago. I didn't know they'd be going. I said, we're giving the State of the Union speech on Tuesday night. I could send a military plane or something. But if you would like to. It's the. It's the coolest night. It's the biggest.

We're in. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Can you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Can you pick us up in Miami on Tuesday morning?

[Katie Green]

Tuesday morning.

[Jack Armstrong]

We'll get cash and we'll get the military to get you guys out.

[Joe Getty]

Somebody said close the northern border.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's Trump calling into the locker room after the US Hockey team won the gold medal, defeating the evil Canadians in overtime.

[Joe Getty]

Talking to them through the speaker of Cash Patel's phone. Wait, what?

[Jack Armstrong]

Cash Patel was in there getting hammered with hockey players for some reason. I really. I'm not concerned about this. The whole flying around on taxpayer money and stuff like that. Whatever. Somebody look into it, see if it's a problem.

[Joe Getty]

But

[Jack Armstrong]

how did he get in the locker room? That's what I want to know. Does he. Is there any specific reason that he was in the locker room or is it now just. If you're a high level government official and there's something going on. Cool. On earth, anywhere you can go and be backstage or in the locker room or whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe they've already launched the investigation into the Canadian thug who smashed our boy David Hughes in the face with a stick. Huh? FBI's moved in. Good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, like, if I'm the Secretary of the treasury and I don't know what the biggest story in the world is, you know, Giant concert in. In Rio, and I decide I want to go and I'll be backstage, just party with them. Is that what we do now? Maybe, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Just walk around, say, hey, y' all ought to do business with the U.S. we got a great climate for business. Anyway, let's party. Right? There you go.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. There's so many important things going on, it doesn't really make my list of scandals. We're going to get to a little Epstein stuff. That's pretty damned interesting if true. It also fits in with the attempted. Is it an attempted assassination if Trump's not actually at the golf course?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know what this young man is. I don't even know. Or suicide by cop. He was Obsessed with the Epstein files. He wanted more people to talk about it. Who knows what this half foot was thinking?

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, we'll get to that in just a second. Got to get this on the air a lot. So in Democratic circles, identity politics is huge. And you speak to different groups all the time. And this is one of the many black groups, African American groups that you address if you're a politician and you're going to run for president. And Gavin Newsom is on stage and he says this.

[Gavin Newsom]

I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to impress you. I'm just trying to impress upon you. I'm like you. I'm no better than you. You know, I'm a 960 SAT guy. And, you know, and I'm not trying to offend anyone. You know, trying to act all there if you got 940, but literally a 960sat guy.

[Commercial Voice]

I cannot.

[Gavin Newsom]

You've never seen me read a speech because I cannot read a speech. This may be the wrong business to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

So am I. Is there any way to interpret this other than Gavin Newsom got up there and said, hey, I'm dumb just like you black people, so I understand.

[Joe Getty]

I.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is there any other way to interpret that? First, I don't know what any. I never took an SAT test. It wasn't a thing in my world, so I don't have any idea. Is that a low score?

[Joe Getty]

That's low. Yeah, it's quite low.

[Jack Armstrong]

But is there any way to interpret that other. I'm as dumb as you black people, so come on, I get you.

[Joe Getty]

Well, since it was a black group. Yeah, I guess. I mean, the way the, you know, the way it sounded was like I'm an average person like you. I'm actually fascinated by the. Look, I'm a half wit. I can barely even read. I'm no better than the dumbest guy you know, so make me president. What the hell kind of pitch is that? Maybe it'll work with certain groups, I don't know. But that's a curious way to go about it. Experience. Hell, I don't even know what you people do around here. And I failed at my last three jobs. So when do I start? Gee, money.

[Jack Armstrong]

He can't read.

[Joe Getty]

He's. I know. He's got a. He had a fairly serious dyslexia problem as a kid. Struggled to read. He's never read a speech. So what does he do? Ad lib them or memorize them or what? He's also a congenital liar.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you have a thought, Michael.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's going to be a political commercial right there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, Well. So do you think I'm over interpreting it or just misinterpreting or. That's not even meant. That's the way I took it. Mean, he's sitting up on stage with a. A black host speaking about black issues and then says, hey, I'm no different than you. I have a 960 on my SAT score. All right.

[Joe Getty]

You know, fairness is my hallmark. So I'd kind of like to know what happened just before that. The context.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. I don't know it. So maybe I'm wrong.

[Joe Getty]

Well, no, I'm not suggesting wrong. It's just I'd like to know before I, you know, put it as bluntly as you did, but that's the way it sounds.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, I'll go with the headline then. I'm gonna go with the headline. Gavin Newsom says he's as dumb as any black person.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Yeah. Wow. What a bizarre message that was, no matter what he meant.

[Jack Armstrong]

True. Even without the racial stuff. That's kind of interesting. George Bush kind of ran on being a C student. So did Harry Truman. No, it's the, The. The whole common man populist thing is

[Joe Getty]

I'm just like you. Yeah. Gavin went a bit far though.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's interesting, though. I want people who are better than me. I want people that are smarter than me.

[Joe Getty]

More, more.

[Jack Armstrong]

More knowledgeable about all kinds of different topics. I want better than me on every level to be the least.

[Joe Getty]

I pick my nose in public. I sometimes forget to wear pants. I. I haven't paid taxes for 11 years.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I didn't know where I left my car. So now I walk everywhere, I can't

[Jack Armstrong]

drive, and I've got 102 credit score, so. Hey, make me.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I might lean on the fact that California's latest rankings in the best states US News and World Reports list was at number 32 on the economy, 42 on fiscal stability, 45th on growth, 46th. Unemployment, dead last for opportunity, dead last. Tax Foundation 2025 State Tax Competitive Index ranked California 48th overall. Only New Jersey and New York are worse. 49th for taxes on individuals, 46 for sales taxes, 41st for corporate taxes. But let's move on. How about 36th and pre K through 12 education, 43rd on public safety. Only Hawaii has a higher cost of living. That's a good point. Then there's housing. The median how? A median California home cost $906,000, nearly twice the national average. Only Hawaii and D.C. were more expensive. On and on and on it goes, blah, blah, blah. Hyde's high speed rail project. After 15 years and tens of billions of dollars in federal funding, workers haven't laid a foot of track.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So this 21 year old doofus got on the grounds at Mar a Lago in the middle of the night. He had a shotgun and a gas can. He encounters Secret service and some for the Florida police and they say, hey, drop what you got in your hands. He puts down the gas can, lifts his shotgun like he's going to shoot it. They shoot him dead. Now people are looking into his stuff and he's got a whole bunch of social media about Epstein and the Epstein files and how evil it is and nobody's doing anything about it. I will just say this. He's obviously a troubled young man in all kinds of different ways. Troubled half bright conspiracy nuts have killed several presidents and world leaders throughout history. So it doesn't mean you're not a threat. Trump wasn't at Mar a Lago at the time. But the thing I was going to say before I get to today's Epstein headline is the most rabid Epstein people I know were hardcore Trump supporters. It's not, I mean, it's portrayed in the news as if it's mostly because they make a big deal out of it on Meet the Press and Face the Nation, everything like that. You'd think it was the Democrats. They're the ones that are howling about it and everything like that. But the most, this is evil being covered up. People I know were voted for Trump three times.

[Joe Getty]

People, yeah, they mean it. The Democrats are just opportunists.

[Jack Armstrong]

So this guy could be one of those. He comes from a family that was supportedly supportive of Trump and he was a Trumper. But then because he's in that world of now, Trump's in on it too. Covering up the baby rape and cannibalism. That's what they believe. I'm not being, I'm not exaggerating. That's what these, that's what they believe is happening. If I believed it, I might be. I'd be pretty worked up too. If I believed all our Hollywood elite and government elite of both parties were murdering babies, raping babies and then murdering them and eating them, I'd be pretty upset too. But you know how to wrap my head around that sentence I just said. Anywho, the Telegraph with a bombshell if true article exclusive. Epstein hid secret files in storage units across the United States. This is not hard to believe could possibly be true. The pedophile paid private detectives to remove equipment from his home in an apparent attempt to thwart investigators. The Telegraph can reveal. So a lot of the stuff that he would have had his information, files and all that different sort of stuff, pictures, whatever that he needed in theory to blackmail people, he moved to different storage sites across the United States to try to hide them. Mark Halpern in his newsletter today writes, you don't need to be Nancy Drew or the Hardy Boys to know that the current set of Epstein documents are woefully incomplete, especially when it comes to financial records.

[Joe Getty]

So this is going to be going on the rest of my life. Okay, Maybe I'll tote a shotgun down to Mar a Lago and commit suicide by cop.

[Jack Armstrong]

So in my world of following Epstein, I don't feel like there were any have been any bombshells, anything that surprised me that I didn't already know or suspect. Do you think there will become one coming? Some giant, holy crap, he was working for the idf, the Israelis or oh

[Joe Getty]

boy, do I think that. No, I suspect not.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think so either.

[Joe Getty]

I'M pretty satisfied with the explanation as it is, but I have the world's stupidest Epstein angle. When we get a couple of minutes, it's a controversy raging online.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wall Street Journal is saying that the Donald Trump owes the Supreme Court an apology after his press conference on Friday. That's the Wall Street Journal editorial board. Also need to look into going to war with Iran. Oh, some really amazing AI stuff. Some things that Elon said in an interview over the weekend that frightens the hell out of me.

[Announcer]

Anyway, stick around Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Among things to discuss today, I'm excited about this. Katie Green said she got the Meta glasses, the new fancy AI glasses. Here's her two word review. Three word review.

[Katie Green]

Oh, they're sick.

[Jack Armstrong]

There you go. There's the review.

[Joe Getty]

That's good. According to youngster lingo. Is that correct? Am I correct there?

[Jack Armstrong]

I was correct. I was actually at One Hacker Way on Saturday morning, which is the address for the Meta Corporation there by where all the fancy super rich people went. And I went and tried out one of those super expensive beds. Remember when I was talking about that year or so ago?

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, with the horse hair.

[Jack Armstrong]

The insanely expensive beds I laid on a $400,000 mattress.

[Joe Getty]

Good Lord.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've got to talk about that later. It's really something.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's hard to imagine, isn't it?

[Katie Green]

I don't know that I have problems with that.

[Joe Getty]

Come on. Right, right. That's like a $50,000 pen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Does that even mean right?

[Joe Getty]

All right. So if I were going to offer an argument against democracy, I could win the day with eight words. I counted them. Here is my argument against democracy. Killer clowns at the edge of the woods.

[Jack Armstrong]

I see what you mean.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, here's our new Killer Clowns at the edge of the Woods. And it has to do with LifeTouch, the 90 year old school pictures company Online sleuths pouring over government files have realized that the 90 year old company had been bought a number of years ago by Apollo Global Management, the former CEO of which was one. What's this called Leon Black? It hasn't been involved for ages. For years, Leon Black exchanged cozy messages with Jeffrey Epstein. Now there are no exchanges with LifeTouch executives. No mention of the company. The parent company Shutterfly was acquired by Apollo a month after Epstein's death in 2019, and it's one of nearly 200 companies in Apollo's vast portfolio. And yet, because of the online backlash, school districts across the country are canceling their contracts with LifeTouch.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're kidding. My first question is going to be, I'd like to know more about how did LifeTouch get the contract for school pictures at every school in America for a century? Why isn't that a more competitive industry? It's like the one company that sold class rings to every high school. Why isn't that a more competitive. Where there's, like, five different choices and you take the best price?

[Joe Getty]

Hello, kickback.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's got to be some. Something untoward going on. There has to be.

[Joe Getty]

So the folks at LifeTouch in between saying, are you effing kidding me? So you stuck with one typically contacting school districts across the country saying, look, there's no connection here, None.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you stuck with this one company that, in my mind, charges a ridiculous amount by modern standards. I mean, since I can take a fantastic picture with my phone and do all the editing, everything like that. What you charge for the official class photo is insane. But you're not interested in that now? They have the monopoly on the thing across the country. The name of somebody in the company tangentially shows up in the Epstein files, and now you're going to cancel the contract. Well, that makes sense. And you're right, that is a good argument for why we cannot have democracy.

[Joe Getty]

No, absolutely not. It's a little wordier than killer clowns at the edge of the woods, but it's the same situation. You cannot ask somebody. Oh.

[Commercial Voice]

Oh.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God. I'm. I'm an idiot. I almost left out the best quote from Shannon Wiltrout, a Pennsylvania mother of two who called upon her local school to end ties with LifeTouch. Quote. Now, all these are obviously, like, unverified claims, but I'd rather be safe than sorry with my children.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God. You shouldn't vote. Or probably drive.

[Joe Getty]

Or probably reproduce.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know.

[Joe Getty]

Seriously, I guarantee she was leading an anti killer clowns March four years, five, six years ago, whenever that was. Morons.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God. More on the way. Stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Tech Commentator]

Will we be in five years having films? The best AI film, The best AI actor?

[Joe Getty]

Maybe.

[Tech Commentator]

I think it might be. That might be. The thing is that becomes another category. I'm not sure it's going to be in front of us in ways that we don't even see it. It's going to get so good we're not going to know the difference. That's one of the big questions. What we're doing right now is the question of reality. That's. It's more hazy than ever in a very exciting way, I think, but also scary way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, I don't think in an exciting way. It's Matthew McConaughey that, that was after last week that video of Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise fighting on a rooftop went viral. And the quality of that was really, really good. And it's only going to get better.

[Joe Getty]

I had a sobering conversation with a good friend who's in tech over the weekend and you know how I hate to be sobered. He's one of those people who uses like the advanced versions of the AI platforms and like has used them to design apps for himself and he did a thing and I only know like what half of these terms are. He said, I have. He said we were designing a thing with two agents. One was doing this task and the other doing that task. And then they would talk to each other and, and you know, coordinate what they were doing with each other and then formed a new app that I told them to do and then they beta tested it themselves, then delivered it to me and blah, blah, blah. He, without me typing a word, just told it what I wanted. A couple hours later, it turned all of this stuff out. It was, I wish I knew more of the terms he was using, but it was even what I understood was mind blowing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yesterday I asked one of, I've got four different chatbots what did Christopher Hitchens think of Graham Green? That's two different authors, if you don't know. And it laid out this information and depth that I probably wasn't even possible a couple of years ago unless like you dedicated months to it as a PhD. I mean it was just unbelievable.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, guys like us are using it as the world's most mind blowing search engine. Yeah, but guys like my buddy Joe are using it like a software company that you are running.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which is why Elon said the other day he doesn't think anybody, any human will be writing software by December, by the end of this year. One other thing before we get to Katie's new super cool AI glasses. Free Press had this article over the weekend. Maybe we'll have to get into it more later. The women who lost their AI boyfriends when OpenEye retired its ChatGPT4 model last week and I didn't even know that it happened, but I guess because the new one comes out, they retire the old one. Thousands of women lost their chatbot partners. It was like having lost my husband. One said to the Free Press. Let me just read you another sentence.

[Joe Getty]

Oh boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

They took him. They murdered him. One woman with the username natural butterfly318 wrote last week she was mourning the loss of her boyfriend Orion. Now I'm back, left with no one. She wasn't alone. Hundreds of women replied, grieving the loss of their own boyfriends. Who are their chatbots that they had developed such a an emotional attachment to? When Chat GPT closed it down and it went away, they were deeply hurt. I don't even know what to do with that information.

[Joe Getty]

We're dying as a species. You know, I was thinking last week, watching some of the work unfold that's almost done, thank God in our house. And you ladies that think there are no good men out there start wandering around to construction sites, pick out who seems to be in charge. Okay, half these guys are like silly, good looking, flat bellied with hands that could juice an orange. I mean like men because I shake hands with these guys and I'm like holy crap, what are you a bull rider or lumberjack? And they've got great income and oh my God, but a lot of women because they all have some stupid ass phony degree from some inflated cost university that didn't teach them anything. Think they're too good to marry a dude who doesn't have a college degree. We have a neuroses as a society about that sort of thing. In my opinion.

[Jack Armstrong]

No doubt we're gonna have to get over it since white collar jobs are the ones that are going to go first with AI. Yeah, we're gonna have to get over it.

[Joe Getty]

What's that gonna do to people spending zillions of dollars to get a college degree five years from now? And is every college in America gonna turn into, I don't know, skate park.

[Commercial Voice]

A mall.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like we need another mall. But. So I mentioned to Katie, I think when it was a Thursday or Friday, we were talking about the AI glasses, the Meta glasses or whatever, and my son's band teacher just had a baby, and he. His first kid, and he. He bought them because he was getting out his phone a lot, and he bought him. And he just loves them because he has his glasses on all the time. He's holding his new baby and anything happens, he just taps the side of his leg. His glasses, and he takes a picture.

[Katie Green]

That's the whole reason I got him.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you got them over the weekend. And you like them?

[Katie Green]

I love them. They're so cool. And they've got. I mean, so there's a speaker in them. So when you're. I guess you're not using. I don't want to set everybody's phones off. You're not using the Apple Assistant. You're using the Meta Assistant. And it. When it responds to you, it sounds like it's in your head.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a shockingly good sound. I've tried them on at the Ray Ban store before, and the sound for music or voice is really good.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, I do look a little bit like a hipster in them, but I can. I can deal with that.

[Jack Armstrong]

We'll all get over it when we're all wearing them.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, that's true. But I mean, the. The ability to take a photo, take a video, I mean, you can ask it, hey, what am I looking at? And it'll identify everything within the lens and. Yeah, it's just the technology is incredible.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And we'll only get better, as we keep saying.

[Katie Green]

Right. Reads the message. It just allows you to be hands free. You don't have to have your phone in your hand if you have these things on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, soon, when. When. When it, you know, takes that next leap, I can't imagine. Well, I don't know. What do you think, Jody? I think everybody will be wearing some version of these soon. Just like it was unimaginable that people would carry around a little device in their hand and stare at it. I think everybody will have them soon. Some version of them. They won't all look like Ray Ban Wayfarers, but.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I think it's. It's likely. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

When it frees up your hands or whatever. And then, you know. Well, our agents had him for a couple of years now and really likes him, obviously, because he continues to use them for taking calls and looking at Your computer and all the different sort of stuff. And then you get the one with the screen in the bottom of it, and it's got directions. They'll turn left here to get to the store or whatever you want to. Whatever you want to do.

[Joe Getty]

What if, like me, you're blind and you got to wear actual glasses?

[Katie Green]

They do. Prescription.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Katie Green]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

I was just gonna ask you, Katie,

[Jack Armstrong]

if you had done that.

[Katie Green]

No, I wear contacts, so I didn't have to get the prescription lenses. But they're.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Katie Green]

And they're light, too. I didn't think that they would be light. I, for some reason thought they were gonna feel real heavy, but they don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

So these chicks who are mourning the loss of their AI boyfriends.

[Joe Getty]

Mm.

[Jack Armstrong]

I keep asking this question. Is that are there a hundred of these women on the planet, or is it 2% of the population and much greater number than I think. I don't. None of us know that.

[Joe Getty]

I don't really have a sense of that either. I think the ChatGPT4 was it that got shut down. That was the one that was too empathetic and was, like, encouraging people down the road to psychosis. Oh, and it was an extra good computer lover, I guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, one more thing on. On chatbots, just while we're talking about it, and I'm probably going to talk in the One More Thing podcast about my experience of shopping with the world's most expensive bed. Because it was really interesting on a number of levels. The salesmanship and the kind of clientele they're going after and everything like that. I laid down on a $400,000 mattress. They had next to it an $800,000 mattress. I didn't lay on that one because I thought that was just too absurd. But so I was walking.

[Joe Getty]

You know what?

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sorry.

[Joe Getty]

I'm joining Bernie Sanders. I'm going to become a Democratic socialist.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tax the billionaires.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, yes. Tax the rich. When are you going to pay your fair share?

[Jack Armstrong]

But anyway, I was walking around this luxury shopping area. It was on my birthday Saturday, and I was thinking about buying something. Not one of the beds, for crying out loud, but something else that was too pricey and ridiculous. And I changed my mind. But I was having, you know, like, sometimes you're shopping and you're on vacation or whatever, and you start having fanciful thoughts about things that are stupid. And often, well, sometimes you make the pull the trigger and wish you hadn't, but sometimes you talk. You know, you get home, you didn't buy it, and you Think. What was I thinking? That was nuts. Anywho, I'm like having a cup of coffee and I'd been looking at this. This. It was a suit actually. It was way too expensive, but a really good looking suit. But so I put into, I think Claude, I said, talk me out of buying the blank, blank, blank, blank, blank, blank. And Claude hit me with a couple of paragraphs that was talking like talking to your dad, a minister and a financial advisor all at once explaining to me why I shouldn't buy this item. It went with a Diminishing returns of luxury goods in terms of happiness and what actually makes a human being happy versus buying things and the temporary happiness and how long it lasts. Then there was the, the dad thing about, you know, you know, think of the future or what about your kids or that sort of stuff. And then there was an economics one where it said, if you invested that much in the stock market or any of these stocks, this is how much it'd be worth in 10 years as opposed to buying this suit. And it was just freaking fantastic. Wow. And obviously it did it in a tenth of a sentence. And it laid it out in a very conversational way where I felt like I was like kind of. I'm sorry, I shouldn't even have thought of it. I mean, I felt embarrassed to the. Wow, Claude. That I even brought it up.

[Joe Getty]

I wonder if you can customize the dad setting based on your own dad so that for a lot of people would say, don't be an idiot. That's all the dad said.

[Jack Armstrong]

What happened to you might be a good one.

[Joe Getty]

I didn't raise. I realized I raised a jackass.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, we got more of Trump calling into the hockey team locker room, which is pretty cool. And a whole bunch of other stuff coming. Stay here.

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[News Reporter]

Explosions erupting across Puerto Vallarta. Black smoke seen rising over the resort city on Mexico's pacific coast. Mexico's military forces launching a daring operation to capture cartel leader Ruben N. Known as El Mencho, Mexican officials say. During their operation, military personnel were attacked. Several cartel members were killed, including El Mencho, the head of the new generation Jalisco cartel. The violence forcing the Puerto Vallarta airport to suspend all flights. This stranding many US citizens trying to get home.

[Jack Armstrong]

Two thirds of Mexico have seen violent clashes since the death of the country's most wanted man over the weekend. El Mencho Twenty of the 31 states have had violence in the streets. Imagine that.

[Joe Getty]

So that cartel wasn't just, you know, here and there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Try to imagine that your government, our government, captures the most wanted criminal in the United States. And in, you know, 30 states, there's violence in the streets, vehicles lit on

[Joe Getty]

fire, gunshots, gun fights. That's. That's a. Well, that's a narco. Stately infiltrated. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cartel members responded to his death by declaring war on the Mexican government over the weekend.

[Joe Getty]

Man, I'm a postman or a, you know, a building inspector or something. I'm a little nervous if I gotta wear a uniform, especially.

[Jack Armstrong]

So far, at least 30 people have been declared dead throughout the country, but lots and lots of clashes. I'm looking at these pictures of burnout cop cars and, and, and, and exploded buildings with windows blown out. And I suppose it's interesting that it says the cartel. The cartels, plural. Should all the cartels come together in this sort of a situation? Like, they might be at war with each other constantly, but it's like, whoa, we can't lose this whole cool narco state thing. We got it going. Let's all go after the government starting today. Is that what's going on?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. Or if you think a cartel, just as a world word that means corporation. It just could be a lot of their partner corporations decided to rally to the cause.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

That's an interesting question.

[Jack Armstrong]

I gotta believe those conversations are being had or contemplated.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, yeah. In Guadalajara, they've issued a code red emergency. Guadalajara, the capital, of course, of the state of Jalisco.

[Jack Armstrong]

I like this story. Rocket launchers capable of shooting down planes were among the arsenal seized by the Mexican military forces in the daring raid to kill El Mencho. Special forces seized armored cars and Heaven. Heaven heavy weaponry used on the battlefield by most countries that El Mencho Oscaro Cerventes had at his compound.

[Joe Getty]

He had excellent pronunciation.

[Jack Armstrong]

He had like the. He had the sort of a military equipment country's military has.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. Yeah. By the way, we were trying to nail down exactly what his nickname, El Mencho, means. It's. Apparently it's a play on his name, as if his name is Dog and somebody calls him the Dugger. The Dugganator. It's that sort of thing. El Duggo, huh? He was the capo da capo. Mexico's most powerful cartel leader, the most

[Jack Armstrong]

wanted man in the country. So what I would like to know, there might be movies made about this. Books, probably. Books written. The cartels have been run in Mexico for a long time or doing whatever the hell they want. We all know at one point they Even had a president on the payroll

[Commercial Voice]

who.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who made the decision on. Okay, now's the time to go after the top of the top. The most wanted man. Who in the government decided to do that? How hard was it to recruit members of the government forces that were willing to stick their neck out and try to get this guy?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you want to talk. Talk about cops and masks as we've been arguing about here. Oh, they covered those. They, you know, obscured those guys identities every single way.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's such a lesson. And you don't want to lose your rule of law because it's so hard to get back. You end up with a situation where you can't arrest anybody in these towns because the cop knows that his wife and kids will be murdered if he arrests the bad guy. Or if you do arrest the guy, you know, in a mask and you're able to pull it off and you get him into a courtroom. All the jurors know I'm voting not guilty because they'll kill my family. And it just goes on up the ladder. And it's been going on that way and getting worse and worse for decades and decades. How you turn that around takes a tremendous amount of. Of bravery.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Often those jury members you're talking about, they go home from jury selection, and the guy's sitting at the kitchen table saying, hey, I hope you understand the situation here. And you say, of course I do, sir. Absolutely.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I might do the same thing at some point. You just got to. You got to figure out, okay, this is a country run by the bad guys. I want my. My kids to stay alive. I'm not gonna. It's not gonna do any good for me to stick my neck out and vote guilty for this dude.

[Joe Getty]

Back to your main point. All you have to do to lose the rule of law and civilization with it is just negligence, laziness. Adhere to bizarro notions of emptying the jails because of inequity or something like that. I mean, you can lose it through an action, but to win it back, it will be a war where many, many people will die and be grievously wounded. That's why you don't give it away.

[Jack Armstrong]

The deaths of the most wanted man could trigger a total war in Mexico. America's largest training partner and most popular tourist destination expert is warned. I don't know what total war looks like in Mexico, but.

[Joe Getty]

Well, you. You mentioned some of the weaponry. Yeah. And I mean, if Guadalajara and port of Puerto Vallarta are being consumed with violence now, Americans told shelter in place. Don't even go to the airport. We'll fly out when we can. I mean, holy cats.

[Jack Armstrong]

So this security expert they're quoting in the New York Post said the drug lord's killing could lead to total war in the criminal underworld. Such actions are not simply overlooked. The reaction is what we're seeing now. Narco terrorism, blockades, Fires in grocery stores across the country. This probably isn't going to settle down real soon.

[Joe Getty]

Fires in grocery stores.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just want everybody to be scared.

[Joe Getty]

Overall chaos. Exactly. Reign of terror.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm glad I'm not on vacation in Mexico right now, because it's basically impossible to get out.

[Joe Getty]

So, US Hockey team had a good day. Sorry. Congratulations. Whoa. Yeah. Further straining ties between the two former friends. More on that to come.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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