I Want To Join In On The Anger

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: Episode Summary
Title: I Want To Join In On The Anger
Release Date: February 25, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

In this episode of the Armstrong & Getty On Demand podcast, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into pressing geopolitical issues, particularly focusing on the United States' stance at the United Nations concerning the Russia-Ukraine conflict. The discussion navigates through U.S. foreign policy, Trump’s negotiation tactics, the shifting global order, and the implications of these changes on international relations and domestic policies.

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U.S. Voting at the UN and the Russia-Ukraine Conflict

[02:54] Jack Armstrong:
Jack opens the conversation by expressing disappointment over the U.S. boarder's voting stance at the United Nations regarding the Russia-Ukraine war resolution. He highlights that the U.S. did not condemn Russia as the aggressor, aligning instead with nations like Russia and North Korea.

"The resolution was basically calling, you know, Russia the aggressor and that they need to get out. And we didn't vote yes on that. We voted with Russia and North Korea and some other scumbag countries on not wanting to call out Russia in that war."
— Jack Armstrong [02:54]

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Trump’s Negotiation Tactics with Putin

[03:25] Joe Getty:
Joe discusses Congressman Tom McClintock’s perspective that former President Trump would have significant latitude to negotiate an end to the war. He critiques Trump’s approach of attempting to avoid antagonizing Putin, comparing it to trying to negotiate with a "hungry mountain lion."

"It's fairly obviously to me anyway, Trump trying to avoid any antagonizing the people with whom he'll be negotiating, specifically Putin, unnecessarily... as successful as you can negotiate with a hungry mountain lion."
— Joe Getty [03:25]

[04:05] Jack Armstrong:
Jack differentiates between negotiating with personal acquaintances and international leaders. He criticizes the U.S. for not holding Russia accountable publicly while attempting to negotiate privately.

"But telling the world as the most important country on planet that no, there's nothing to criticize about what Russia did here is not good."
— Jack Armstrong [04:05]

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Analysis of Trump’s Foreign Policy Strategy

[07:04] Joe Getty:
Joe references Wall Street Journal columnist Jerry Baker's insights, suggesting that Trump may be steering the U.S. toward a "great power" strategy, reminiscent of the 1945 Yalta Conference where global powers divided spheres of influence.

"If you're not familiar with it as he appends foreign policy, there's been a lot of talk in diplomatic circles lately of a new Yalta."
— Joe Getty [07:27]

[08:03] Jack Armstrong:
Jack finds the comparison to Yalta intriguing, pondering whether Trump and his advisors recognize the shift toward a new era of U.S. foreign policy akin to the Cold War dynamics.

"It's possible that he and smart people around him have decided we're into a new era now. We're into an era much like, you know, the Soviet Union and the United States..."
— Jack Armstrong [11:08]

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Implications of a New World Order

[13:02] Joe Getty:
Joe summarizes Baker's three potential implications of the new foreign policy direction:

1. Territorial Insecurity: Increased fluidity and aggression in defining international boundaries.
2. Nuclear Proliferation: Greater risk as more nations attain nuclear capabilities without reliance on U.S. protection.
3. Geopolitical and Economic Realignments: Shifts in alliances as Europe and other regions reconsider their dependence on the U.S.

"If there is a move toward this great power world in a new Yalta, first, we can look forward to territorial insecurity... Then, of course, nuclear proliferation... Then the third thing to look for is geopolitical and economic realignments."
— Joe Getty [18:00]

[19:03] Jack Armstrong:
Jack emphasizes the dangers of increased nuclear proliferation, highlighting the heightened risks of nuclear weapons being used intentionally or accidentally.

"The more countries that have nuclear weapons, the more likely that one gets used on purpose or by mistake or whatever. Or gets loose."
— Jack Armstrong [19:03]

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Economic Realignments and Dependence on China

[19:12] Joe Getty:
Joe discusses Europe's economic dependency on China and how European nations might seek alternatives if they no longer view the U.S. as a reliable ally. He draws parallels to pre-World War I alliances, where nations frequently shifted allegiances based on self-interest rather than ideological bonds.

"If Europeans no longer view America as a dependable ally, they will seek alternatives... We may now see that kind of hard, self-interested realism among powers replace attachment to sentimental ideas and values."
— Joe Getty [19:12]

[20:05] Joe Getty:
Joe further elaborates on the potential for the U.S. to adopt a "great power" approach, prioritizing national interest over global leadership, and the ramifications this shift could have on international stability.

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Military Recruitment and National Strength

[32:10] Jack Armstrong:
Shifting topics, Jack references an opinion piece by Mike Gallagher advocating for a robust military recruitment campaign that emphasizes strength, courage, and leadership. Jack supports the idea, reminiscing about how military recruitment messages once inspired him.

"Remember when Mike Lyons told us how well that worked as a recruitment tool? I know that it worked on me. I very nearly joined the military."
— Jack Armstrong [32:10]

[33:10] Joe Getty:
Joe comments on the fluctuating nature of enlistment rates, suggesting that recruitment can be heavily influenced by the current administration's policies and overall national sentiment toward the military.

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Cultural and Social Issues: Gender Policies in Schools

[25:42] Jack Armstrong:
The conversation transitions to social issues, particularly focusing on policies regarding transgender athletes in schools. Joe criticizes the NCAA's updated policies as ineffective and reflects on the broader implications of gender identity regulations in educational institutions.

"The new policy bases gender on birth certificates or a doctor's certification, both of which can be changed by compliant state officials or activist doctors."
— Joe Getty [27:28]

[29:35] Joe Getty:
Joe shares a harrowing account of a student named Sage whose life was negatively impacted by school policies on gender identity, emphasizing the dangers of allowing schools to make unilateral decisions on such sensitive matters without parental involvement.

"No secret gender transition in schools. And 2 it's not abuse to raise a child according to his or her biology."
— Joe Getty [31:54]

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Closing Thoughts: Navigating a Changing World

[45:38] Jenny Garth Advertisement:
The episode briefly returns to advertisements, promoting FutureHealth and their services related to weight loss medications.

[41:32] Joe Getty:
Joe shares a personal anecdote about issues with health insurance coding practices, highlighting systemic inefficiencies and the frustration of dealing with bureaucratic hurdles that neglect actual health outcomes in favor of procedural compliance.

"The idiotic flaw in the system is so well known and so easy to understand. Even the girl answering the phone said, oh, yeah, I know what happened."
— Joe Getty [43:22]

[44:14] Joe Getty:
He continues to advocate for meaningful healthcare interactions, criticizing the current system's focus on checkbox compliance over genuine patient care.

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Conclusion

Throughout the episode, Armstrong & Getty engage in a candid and critical examination of current U.S. foreign policy, the potential shift towards a new global order, and the internal challenges within American institutions such as healthcare and education. They intertwine geopolitical analysis with personal anecdotes, offering listeners a comprehensive perspective on how these macro and micro issues intersect and impact everyday lives.

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Notable Quotes

• Jack Armstrong [02:54]:
  "The resolution was basically calling, you know, Russia the aggressor and that they need to get out. And we didn't vote yes on that."

• Joe Getty [07:27]:
  "Jerry's trying to figure out Trump's strategy and I think he may be onto something beneath Donald Trump's mendacious... there seems to be a kernel of strategic reasoning."

• Jack Armstrong [19:03]:
  "The more countries that have nuclear weapons, the more likely that one gets used on purpose or by mistake or whatever."

• Joe Getty [27:28]:
  "Both led to this person Sage's trafficking. Her school affirmed her as a boy...she fled the threats, was caught drugged and exploited by sex traffickers."

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This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand provides listeners with an in-depth analysis of pivotal international relations issues, the evolving landscape of U.S. foreign policy, and critical domestic social policies. Through insightful discussions and compelling personal stories, Armstrong and Getty encourage reflection on the direction of national and global leadership in tumultuous times.

Transcript

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Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal has a sad day for the US at the UN the land of the free votes with Russia on a Ukraine war resolution. We brought that up with Tom McClintock last hour. If you didn't get hear that, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. But the resolution was basically calling, you know, Russia the aggressor and that they need to get out. And we didn't vote yes on that. We voted with Russia and North Korea and some other scumbag countries on not wanting to call out Russia in that war.

[Joe Getty]

And as Tom McClintock, the congressman, said, he'll give plenty of latitude to Trump to negotiate the way he sees fit to try to end the war. It's fairly obviously to me anyway, Trump trying to avoid any antagonizing the people with whom he'll be negotiating, specifically Putin, unnecessarily. I think you can manipulate Putin through flattery or leaving out criticism about as you successfully as you can negotiate with a hungry mountain lion. It's just, it's, it's a useless effort, but that's the way he does business.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, but it's a completely different thing. We're not negotiating on a house or a car here. If I flatter some lying, cheating. I know he's a scumbag car salesman, but I flatter him. I know he's a jerk. I know him from around the neighborhood. He's a bad guy. But I flatter him because I'm trying to do a deal with him. That's one thing. There's no ultimate harm there, really. But telling the world as the most important country on planet that no, there's nothing to criticize about what Russia did here is not good.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Oh, I agree completely, you know that I was just trying to, you know, express the Trump point of view. That is one of my great criticisms of Trump is he does not understand how the United States and the way it behaves echoes through history like a real estate deal doesn't. On the other hand, maybe he does, according to his defenders, or in the case of Jerry Baker, who is a great writer, happens to work for the Wall Street Journal. Most of the time he's trying to understand exactly what Trump's at. And I thought it was very interesting, even if you don't agree with it. But first, as a bit of a scene setter, here's a reporter grill the president yesterday subsequent to his meeting with Macron, the panty waisted leader of France, talking about Ukraine, Russia and European security. And I actually, I have a lot of sympathy with Macron's point of view, at least to some extent. But roll 41, Michael Lynn will discuss Zelensky, a dictator. Would you use the same words regarding Putin?

[Donald Trump]

I don't use those words lightly. I think that we're going to see how it all works out. Let's see what happens. I think we have a chance of a really good settlement between various countries. And, you know, you're talking about Europe and you're talking about Ukraine as part of that whole situation. The other side has a lot of, a lot of support also. So let's see how it all works out. It might work out. Look, you can never make up lives. The one thing you can, you can make up the money, but you can't make up the lives. A lot of lives lost. I think probably a lot more lives than people are talking about. It's been a, it's been a rough war, but I think we're close to getting it solved.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you think Trump thinks that there's an advantage to not calling Putin a dictator because he called Putin a dictator, he's less likely to do a deal.

[Joe Getty]

He's. Yes, he is doing what you described more or less. He's flattering all of the parties to the deal before the negotiation because it just does not do any good to antagonize the person you're negotiating with generally.

[Jack Armstrong]

But as you keep pointing out, Putin's such a crocodile. He's gonna do a deal if he thinks it's in his best interest and he's not going to do a deal if he doesn't the end with no other extraneous things mattering whatsoever.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Exactly. He is no more prone to flattery nor threat than a crocodile. Yeah, exactly. In my opinion. But Trump does business the way Trump does business. Another explanation of. And obviously he does throw the word lightly around, dictator. Called Zelensky a dictator, even though he's clearly not. Anyway, and if I, if I was.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gonna, you know, back on the side of giving Trump some credit, he's done a hell of a lot more deals than practically anybody. And maybe he's dealt with some really bad guys before where, you know, other people would have said, look, you can't flatter old, you know, whatever mob boss or whoever he had to deal with trying to get a hotel built that turns out he did. He feels like it helped him.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, I suppose. And this really gets into seven dimensional chess. Maybe he wants Putin to think he thinks he can flatter Putin.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, yeah, But I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, this is the really, really important part. I'm going to quote Jerry Baker a bit here and there as we discuss. But Jerry's trying to figure out Trump's strategy and I think he may be onto something beneath Donald Trump's mendacious. That means dishonest contempt for Ukraine and its dictator and his cringing admiration for Russia and the genius in the Kremlin, there seems to be a kernel of strategic reasoning. Okay, I read that opening partly to illustrate that Baker's no fan of what Trump said recently. But he says he isn't wrong that America has borne the burdens of global leadership for far too long. Undeniably truth. Look at NATO and their lack of spending on defense. Just that's almost the only thing you need to see. And he's not wrong that the liberal order we have led is giving way to a world in which the US Must pursue a narrower definition of the national interest, and that the age of spending hundreds of billions of dollars to defend parts of the world that are no longer essential to US Security. And for nations that have the resources to defend themselves, that era is over. And what he says is this strengthens the impression that Mr. Trump may be leading the US toward a return of a great power approach to global strategy. Here's what that is. If you're not familiar with it as he appends foreign policy, there's been a lot of talk in diplomatic circles lately of a new Yalta. That was the 1945 Conference on the Black Sea where the leaders of the US The UK which used to matter, and the Soviet Union struck up a deal to carve up the planet. This is your sphere of influence. This is our sphere of influence. This is your sphere of influence. We don't mess with yours, you don't mess with ours, and we don't go to war. Now, Jack, you have been talking about how what's his face? The great reporter puts out a newsletter.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mark Halpern.

[Joe Getty]

Mark Halpern has been describing lately how Washington is a buzz with some sort of great bargain that is allegedly being crafted behind the scenes that includes Greenland.

[Jack Armstrong]

And Taiwan and Russia and Ukraine and.

[Joe Getty]

A whole bunch of stuff exactly as a way to make business, not war in the style of Yalta. Getting back to Jerry Baker, Mr. Trump's apparent hunger for US territorial expansion in Greenland, Panama, Gaza, even, maybe even Canada, his ambitions to tie foreign policy to the exploitation of economic resources, his seeming acquiescence to Vladimir Putin's European ambitions and similar expressions of respect for Xi Jinping of China suggest a hard edged foreign policy realism revolving around, around a new big three powers. Another Yalta.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is damned interesting. This is damned interesting. And you know, I don't, I, I don't want to get sucked into giving Trump way too much credit for the sort of thing that I don't think he spent a lot of his life thinking about. But it's possible that he and smart people around him have decided we're into a new era now. We're into an era much like, you know, the Soviet Union and the United States where you have to say you get that side of the world, we get this side of the world, you don't mess with us. We, like you were just talking about it might be where we are now.

[Joe Getty]

It's funny, it's easy. Even if you spend your life studying massive changes in global dynamics, it's easy to think, well, massive changes are in history books now. We have stability and rules based, blah blah blah. And there will never be, as Fukuyama idiotic said, we're at the end of history. I mean, how did he get those words to come out of his mouth anyway? So set aside the moral indignation about the President's tilt to Moscow. Take a take at face value this potentially profound shift in foreign policy. Then he gets into three potential implications. What would this new world look like? I humbly submit that we should break semi on time for once and give plenty of time for those three main potential implications.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, I'm fascinated by this idea.

[Joe Getty]

I know, I know. I have accused Trump many times of not being real up on the historical significance of certain maneuvers and the presidency and the rest of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I do think he understands power, leverage and money though.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Huh. So we got a lot more on.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Spy on us and whatever and propagandize our young people. Yeah, lovely. Speaking of China, we've been discussing Jerry Baker's column in the Wall Street Journal. He's talking about how Trump is showing a number of signs of going toward moving toward a great power approach to global strategy, not the rules based international order of the last 50, 75 years, whatever. And he references May. Were going for a new Yalta conference. That's a 1945 conference where the leaders of the US the UK and the Soviet Union struck a deal to carve up the planet back in 1945. And there are rumors. Mark Halperin we've discussed says that Washington's abuzz with talk of just such a giant agreement which might indeed include Greenland and Panama and Gaza and Canada, who knows what, but almost certainly Taiwan. Which brings us to Baker's analysis if there is a move toward this great power world in a new Yalta, first, we can look forward to territorial insecurity. In a Trumpian vision of the world in which great powers seize what they can, we can expect a much more fluid, muscular approach to international boundaries than the last half century's efforts at a rules based system. Then, of course, he name checks Taiwan. I've heard it said many times, if Taiwan goes, there will be a global depression because of the acute need for their advanced computer chips. Mostly in some other technologies, but mostly the chips. There's an argument to Trump's approach to Russia. It represents a hardened approach to Taiwan, saying that cutting Ukraine loose was necessary to enable Washington to focus on China. But is this Mr. Trump's view? How essential does he think a free Taiwan is? And it's not clear. And then he talks about how Trump has also spoken favorably of Xi Jinping as a brilliant guy. He controls 1.4 billion people with an iron fist. Is he just trying to flatter him? Does he mean it? Nobody's quite sure. So territorial instability definitely would come down the pike. Second, nuclear proliferation. The big difference between the great power world of the past and that of today is the thermonuclear bomb. If small nations can no longer rely on large powerful allies to protect them against predators, they have one last option, the threat of nuclear annihilation for any country that tries to invade them. Then he goes through quite a list of countries that don't have nuclear arms because they're under the US nuclear umbrella and they are our allies. Germany, let's see, Poland. Who else does he met? Well, bunches of countries and obviously Korea, Japan, obviously.

[Jack Armstrong]

The more countries that have nuclear weapons, the more likely that one gets used on purpose or by mistake or whatever. Or gets loose.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Yeah, absolutely. And then the third thing to look for is geopolitical and economic realignments. If Europeans no longer view America as a dependable ally, they will seek alternatives. In the Pre World War I era of great European powers, countries shifted allegiances fairly regularly. Britain could have signed up with Germany rather than France and Russia. We may now see that kind of hard, self interested realism among powers replace attachment to sentimental ideas and values. You know, I think he almost undersells the idea of the democracy of the world banding together to defend freedom and free trade. And democracy is. It's more than sentimental ideals. It's certainly values.

[Jack Armstrong]

But Germany was willing to go all in on using Russian gas until the invasion of Ukraine. They didn't care about Russia's values.

[Joe Getty]

I think history will look back on Angela Merkel as a self important jackass who did all the wrong things. Anyway, to finish up Baker's piece here. For all its frailties as a geopolitical force, Europe's economy is many times the size of Russia's and combined with the UK's, it's on par with America's. Europe as a whole has an economy just about as big as ours. It's already heavily dependent on China, and Europeans now see closer ties with troubling implications for American interests. In a summary, Mr. Trump may well like his New World Order, but it will come at a steep price.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, at least sounded like the beginning of this article that he was kind of presenting it as there might not be any other choice.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Well, I think he would probably put it and we ought to try to talk to Gerard Baker someday. Fascinating guy. Anyway, he might put it it's not clearly true that the old choice will work. I think he would say it can if we're super smart about it and do it in the right way. But there are those in the Trump orbit who say, hell, we get their emails all the time say no, the old World order is broke. It's not going to work anymore. So we need to grab hold of the future and change before it changes us.

[Jack Armstrong]

If there are still human beings on the planet a couple hundred years from now, one of the big stories in history books will be the rise of China and how it just changed the world order. Yeah, from the previous century. Tom Cotton in his new book talks about how China's military rise is the fastest expansion and growth of a military in world history.

[Joe Getty]

I think China's peak and decline is going to happen within five years, maybe maybe 10. But they'll soon be like Britain. A shrunken former power might be, you know, after we're dead and gone. Europe, the coddling of Europe up over the last 50 years. One of the greatest mistakes ever made.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's some heavy, interesting stuff. We got a lot more on the way. Stay with us.

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[Joe Getty]

Today, after a trans female basketball player missed her game, the team ended up losing. But on the bright side, they didn't have to shower in their uniforms afterward. That's a good joke.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not sure I followed that.

[Joe Getty]

Well, what was confusing about it was that Gutfeld used a trans girl and her talking about a dude, and I think we needed more setup to that joke. He was talking about a dominant basketball team whose dude couldn't play one day and got hammered, apparently.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Getty]

Bit of missing context there. Gotcha.

[Jack Armstrong]

Making the point that that player made a big difference. Having having a dude on your team was a great benefit.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I have a little more gender bending madness if you're in the mood for it. Yeah, why not? Michael, do you have the theme ready? We don't. You know, no, no, this. You know what? Elon Musk is going to take a look at your list of five things, and he's going to cross it off, because I've seen his list. It was playing theme songs on time. Gender Bending Madness. Couple of items worth mentioning. Riley Gaines. And if you don't know Riley, she's the great college swimmer who called out, hey, there's a full grown dude in the locker room calling himself a woman, and I'm sick of making me put up with it. God bless her for her courage. Anyway, she's been a leading light in keeping men out of women's sports. Well, the president signed an order to ban transgender athletes from school sports, and the NCAA claimed to have rewritten its rules to comply. But now Riley and Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton have gotten together to say the NCAA policy has way too many loopholes to be meaningful. She says, quote, this policy is about as clear as mud and very, very much still allows men to compete on women's teams and receive women's benefits. And she says, we're watching to see what they actually do. But critics of the NCAA's changes claim that the new policy bases gender on birth certificates or a doctor's certification, both of which can be changed by compliant state officials or activist doctors.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure.

[Joe Getty]

And that does not comply with the Trump administration's definition, which maintains that sex is immutable and binary.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why can't they just go with, if you got a penis?

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

So they could be lovers. Wow. Holy crap. When the student's mom got wind of this, she discovered thousands of phone calls and texts between the teacher who had at minimum been making out with the student. When the student's mom went to the principal to let him know that A predator had been sexually grooming her daughter. The principal responded and I quote Ms. Kearney takes interest in helping kids navigate their sexuality. But again the administration knowing that this girl had a home and parents helped her declare herself homeless so she could move in with her teacher. This sexualization of children in schools and trying to pry them away from the families straight out of Marxism.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well and an adult helping a child navigate their sexuality is 100% grooming. I mean 100% the definition of grooming.

[Joe Getty]

Yes it is absolutely true. And again if you don't get this I don't know what to do except slap you upside the head. I don't know any time any it would help me any barbaric an adult says and hey let's not tell your parents about this something awful is going on unless there is a clear and documented history of abuse or something like that. Moving along. I just wanted to get this on. We have a link at Armstrong and getty.com under hot links. I'm 90% sure he says scrolling to make sure it's true. Yes. What is Sage's Law? And this is a law that is got some momentum in Virginia and people are becoming aware of it around the country. Schools keeping secrets from parents open the door to predators. I'm reading from their website. So do states who call it abuse to raise girls as girls and boys as boys and rip them from loving families to affirm them in state custody. And both led to this person Sages trafficking. Her school affirmed her as a boy when she was a confused adolescent afraid of puberty et cetera. We've talked about this and told her to use the boys bathroom but kept her parents in the dark. She was terribly bullied, assaulted in the boys bathroom, fled the threats, was caught drugged and exploited by sex traffickers. And when the FBI found Sage a judge withheld her from her parents over false claims of misgendering abuse and ordered into a her into a boys state home where she was raped and assaulted again. She fled and was caught again for months of horrific abuse before she was finally rescued. So it's very simple. No secret gender transition in schools. And 2 it's not abuse to raise a child according to his or her biology. We've got their web [e-mail] under Hot Links. It's called Sage's Law. Read it, know it, love it. It's a brief but important gender bending madness update.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've noticed you have several segments that you do that have theme music. I don't have one. I Should really come up with something that has theme music. I just. Jack's ramblings and then there's music. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

It's hard. Allman Brothers rambling man. Maybe just.

[Jack Armstrong]

I haven't read this whole thing. This is in the Wall Street Journal today in the opinion section. Mike Gallagher, who we like bring warriors back to the US Military recruitment campaign should frame services. The ultimate test of strength, courage and leadership. Remember when Mike Lyons told us how well that worked as a recruitment tool? I know that it worked on me. I very nearly joined the military. I was. And talk to recruiters. I mean I was down the pipeline and I don't even remember why I changed my mind. But what was appealing to me about it was the idea of I wonder if I can do this. I think I could do this. The challenge of it. And somehow we got a.

[Joe Getty]

Realizing the best version of yourself. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Somehow we got away from that in our military recruiting. And then numbers have plummeted over the years. Well, they've. They've gone back up a lot under Trump. And anyway, he's writing a piece about how we need to get back to, you know, push yourself, test yourself. How good can you be? Be all you can be as a military recruiting thing. And I just, I love that. I think that's a great idea.

[Joe Getty]

And then I, I think it is too. He also. I, I read the piece and he mentions that enlistment. Enlistment seems to be very conditional on who's in the White House in a way that's probably not super healthy.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no. Not. Shouldn't be. That. That's not good.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Joe was off the other day. I assume you're attending the Maha Kum melee like so many other people around the world did.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah. Try to keep me away.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was unaware of this thing. It's the biggest gathering that ever happens on planet Earth every however many years. They don't have it every year. It's in India. It's a six week ritual bathing spectacle that is visible from space. It's so large where everybody goes and bathes in the river to cleanse themselves of their sins or demons or something. I don't know. You'd have to read who can be Troubled.

[Joe Getty]

Actually, you know, read into it. I don't. It doesn't matter.

[Jack Armstrong]

400 million people attended this. 400 million. There's no close second to Gavin's.

[Joe Getty]

It makes Mecca look like a little league game.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, it certainly makes, you know, whatever music festival you've. You've been to seem like nothing. I mean, that's just stunning. 400 million people over six weeks attended this and it just wrapped up the other day. So if you didn't make it, you'll have to go six years from now when they do it again.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Keep in mind that they can hardly run the thing without a trampling or two. Sometimes it's dozens of people who get trampled.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would like to go just for the logistics of it. I don't really need to bathe in that river. God dang it. That's got to get a little gamey.

[Joe Getty]

Secondhand bath waters are bad enough.

[Jack Armstrong]

400 million people all bathing in the same river.

[Joe Getty]

People matter.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I don't know about that, but what was I gonna say? Oh, I just. The logistics of it. The food stands, the porta potties, the traffic. I can't even imagine how you put something like that together.

[Joe Getty]

You're assuming there are porta potties.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was. Do you have knowledge that there are not?

[Joe Getty]

Well, I don't know. India is not known for its gleaming sophistication everywhere. There are certainly amazing parts of India, but some of it's a little bit primitive by American standards.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank you, come again. 400 million people. Even if they have porta potties, they could get a little out of hand. I mean, if you've been to a music festival, you know, go early in the day.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, oh, I don't even want to think about that. It's so horrible. I almost screamed at an innocent young woman last night. I'm fairly proud of myself that I did not. I came as close as you can come without actually erupting like an insane volcano. I will describe the circumstances in a moment.

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Fantastic.

[Jack Armstrong]

Among other things. On the way.

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[Joe Getty]

Hey, Michael, have we played number four yet? The Greg Gutfeld joke.

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[Joe Getty]

Play it for me, would you? Thanks. So over the weekend, MSNBC canceled Joy Reid's TV show and according to the network, all of her wigs were quickly released back into the wild. There they go. A loving tribute to the moron. Joy, read next hour. Stay with us if you can. If you can't, grab it via podcast, you should subscribe. Armstrong and Getty on demand. Some of her greatest hits through the years. What a numbskull. So here's the situation. We have insurance through our jobs. And as most insurance programs, there are incentives. If you don't smoke, it costs less. If you have a primary care physician, it costs less. And you have to go to the primary care physician and get a physical or a preventative care. Visit it once a year. Now I have. As a guy who's successfully dealing with high blood pressure, hypertension and high cholesterol and stuff like that, I'm on the try not to have a heart attack variety Pack, I call, you know, the medications I take and I exercise, blah, blah. It's going great. But. So I see my doctor every six months and do a rigorous, thorough, preventing me from croaking visit. Not every year, every six months. The blood work. Although we've cut back on that to once a year because it's always good. The blood work, PSA test, even for prostate cancer, blood pressure, just everything. Very thorough. But here's the problem. Well, I will tell you this. I checked and it said, no, you haven't had your preventative care visit, so you're going to pay more for insurance. And I said, no, I have. In fact, I do it twice a year. Well, I got on the line because, of course, the blanking website. You know what? I swore I was gonna stay calm. I'm gonna stay calm during this discussion. I can do it. So the effing website, of course, didn't work. So I got on the phone.

[Jack Armstrong]

Help us know where to direct the anger so we can ride along with you. Are we angry at the insurance company or the.

[Joe Getty]

Like I often say to my wife when she says, who is that guy? While we're watching a movie that's part of the script writing, were meant to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wonder, I would want to join in on the anger. I just don't know who to direct it.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, there will be plenty, Jack. Plenty of anger. So anyway, so I call and say, hey. It says, I haven't had this, but I have. And the nice girl says, yeah, yeah, you need to make an appointment for that. I said, but I do that twice a year. It's incredibly thorough, blah, blah, blah. And she says, you know what probably happens? I don't know that this is in your case, but what happens is if you go for your physical, your preventative care visit, whatever you want to call it, and then at the end of it, you say to the doctor and he says, is there anything else? And you say, my knee hurts. And he says, well, you should put some ice on it. That will be coded as a diagnosis and a treatment, so it's not coded as a preventative care business. And I said, do you understand how moronic that is? What you have just explained to me?

[Jack Armstrong]

That moment, that moment there, that's what I struggle with. The moment before you talked is where when they say something that is ludicrous and then stop, right? And that's when my head explodes. Like, you just stopped. Like that makes sense.

[Joe Getty]

That bothers me. And I went, zero to 60, man, zero to 60. I raised my voice. I said, this is like the Soviet effing Union. What matters is not the medical care. What matters is checking the box. So it doesn't matter. Matter if you do the right thing or not. Just check the box. You have conceded in the conversation that I did the right things, but because of the unchecked box, I've got to go waste everybody's time and money to do it again. And then I said, but I understand you don't make the rules. You've been more than helpful. Thank you. Goodbye. And I hung up.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then she said, I wonder why he has high blood pressure.

[Joe Getty]

But. But here. Here is the fundamental issue here. The idiotic flaw in the system is so well known and so easy to understand. Even the girl answering the phone said, oh, yeah, I know what happened. Right, well, if it's that effing known, why has nobody fixed it? How is there not some method by which I say, well, they may have coded it as put a little ice on your knee if it hurts. It was a full. You look at the. You see the blood work. Look at it. Look, look. Do you see the report on the blood pressure, which is rising as we speak? Well, sorry, no. It was coded as this other thing. That's exactly what kills socialism.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

It becomes about the checking of the box, not the doing of the act. So now what? Thursday, I'm gonna walk into my doctor's office. He's a terrific guy, great doctor. I'm gonna say. Dr. Jones, not his real name. I said, if you want to walk in here, shake my hand and leave, that's fine. I'm only here for one reason, and for God's sake, don't ask me if there's anything you, as a physician, can help me with, that's the one thing we must not do here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

The alternative being go to the front office and I've actually tried this. And argue with the nice lady who. Who types into the computer and codes it for billing and explain to her, no, no, don't code it like that. Well, I'm sorry, because the doctor said, put ice on your knee. So we have to. I swear to God, that moment when.

[Jack Armstrong]

You get the inexplicable. Inexplicable explanation, and I'm supposed to just accept it drives me crazy. It's like when I was trying to rent the car, but I got there and they didn't have. Well, if you book online, sometimes the car goes before you get here, and then you just stop. And I'm supposed to just say, okay.

[Joe Getty]

No, no, You've described to me the idiotic problem. I've already described that. I need you to describe the solution.

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If you missed a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand Armstrong.

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