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Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. Fighting these fires has been a nearly impossible task. Twice tornado like wind gusts up to 100 miles per hour are catapulting embers in all directions. Some firefighters have been working 48 hour shifts evacuating residents, patients, the elderly, anyone in harm's way. And now California Governor Gavin Newsom is deploying the California National Guard to try to help.
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Almost impossible to imagine a 48 hour shift of anything, let alone firefighting in the wind. This important to mention as people start to jump on the evil insurers who dropped the fire coverage for these homes. In some cases, as we know personally from someone weeks ago, right before the fires hit, Proposition 103 in California made it illegal to accurately price fire insurance. Insurers can only use historical data, not projections of what it actually costs now to rebuild a house or to fix a house up. And so it just didn't make sense for them to keep doing it.
Jack Armstrong
So they said either we're not writing any more policies, goodbye, or we're dropping our current policyholders, which is their absolute right to do, by the way.
Joe Getty
I gotta throw this out there just because I know it's floating around. I, I have a window into a certain segment of the social media world. I don't know how many people this represents, but the fires were set on purpose under the homes of the pedophiles to hide the evidence of their child trafficking. That's the QAnon sort of thing.
Jack Armstrong
Please get help.
Joe Getty
Do you have any sense of how many people are into that? Is it, Is it a tenth of 1% or 3%? I don't really know.
Jack Armstrong
Well, 1% of the country obviously would be what, 3.3 million people, 3.4 million people. So a tenth of 1% would be 340,000.
Joe Getty
And if they tweeted much or Facebook much. It would seem like a lot.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. If 340,000 people are hot to trot for an idea, you would get the idea. It's caught on.
Joe Getty
That is so badass. Crazy.
Jack Armstrong
Yes, it is. Yeah. Yeah, man. Anyway, so I really want to talk about the oral arguments in front of the Supreme Court tomorrow about the TikTok ban. I find it one of the most intriguing First Amendment questions I can think of. And it's fun because I get what both sides are saying and at some point I want to scroll through it happens to be Tim Sandifer. Our good old friends Tim Sandifer from the Goldwater Foundation. Twitter feed a lot about the wildfires in California and the government and the Coastal Commission and regulation, all sorts of stuff. Super interesting. But the one thing I want to get out is as Gavin Newsom and others are immediately going to climate change, right?
Joe Getty
Always.
Jack Armstrong
Here's John Hook of Fox 10 who makes the point to blame every natural disaster on climate change gives politicians and policymakers blanket immunity for ineptitude.
Joe Getty
Absolutely.
Jack Armstrong
Most journalists fail to see through this, John. Brilliantly put.
Joe Getty
Absolutely. And if you point out anything other than climate change, you're kind of on the side of the climate change deniers, so.
Jack Armstrong
Well, yeah. It's a beautiful, like all purpose, canard fake argument in that it gives you the blanket immunity and it promotes the scam, which is routing taxpayer dollars to your cronies who will keep you in power for the rest of your days, if possible. Yeah. Wow. Anyway, having said that, here's interesting.
Joe Getty
Here's my Tick Tock lead in. I can tell you I was in it. I will be vague. Very nice, very smart people. Young people who had tick tock on their phones. I was talking to over Christmas. I brought up the fact that it's the Chinese Communist Party spying on you, getting into your phone, making a profile on you. I was told that is a conspiracy theory.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
By smart people.
Jack Armstrong
But I wonder where they heard that right. No kidding. So here is the deal. And the reason this is so interesting is because. Well, to me is because I'm a damn near First Amendment absolutist, as they say. Yes, you can come up with examples of stuff. I would restrict, of course, but I am hardcore. The cure for bad ideas is better ideas. The cure for bad speech is more speech. I despise what the Biden administration did in the social media companies during COVID Absolutely despise it. If violence would have solved it, I'd have been tempted.
Joe Getty
I think I know that's the thing with Everything. Somebody gets an infection, you say, more free speech. That's how you cure it.
Jack Armstrong
That's. Well, that's okay. So. So I am absolutely on that side of it. On the other hand, I am in favor of. And nobody's talking about banning TikTok per se. They're saying the current entity, Bite Dance, which dances to the tune called by the Chinese Communists.
Joe Getty
They say they don't.
Jack Armstrong
Cannot own TikTok.
Joe Getty
They said they don't bite dances. They don't.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, my God. The communists would never lie to us. The country that has sworn that they will crush us and surpass us and lead the world would never mislead us, even though that's like a cherished part of Chinese culture. You disagree, deceive your enemy into weakness.
Joe Getty
Well, I make that sarcastic comment because I think that's often the missing piece. There's no such thing as a private company in China. If you have a company in China, you have to do what the Communist Party wants. They have access to whatever they want. Or that you don't get to exist.
Jack Armstrong
Right. And correct me if I'm wrong, I think Tim, our good old friend Tim Sandifer, is against this action by the government.
Joe Getty
I think you're right because.
Jack Armstrong
And I don't want to speak for anybody, because there are nuances here.
Joe Getty
It is dicey, as you're about to get into, because.
Jack Armstrong
Well, right, because the First Amendment does protect me, saying, for instance, I mean, I can say I think Xi Jinping's right. I think China ought to run the world. I can repeat foreign propaganda. I have that right.
Joe Getty
The country would be better if China was the leader of the world order. It would be better for all of us. You can say that. And we can't outlaw outlets who say that.
Jack Armstrong
Right. There are plenty of people. You've heard several of their names repeating Russian propaganda right now, which is absolute horse crap, and you ought to be smarter than that. But having said that, here's the deal.
Joe Getty
And.
Jack Armstrong
And I am not. I would like to spend all of my time for the next week studying up on this question, but I don't have time. Do you remember we all got hip to, you know, in the early days of everybody having a smartphone and having apps and how great all the free apps were. Took a little while, but most of us got hip to the fact that if it's free, it's because you are the product. That card game, that Angry Birds, that. That shopping app, you name it, exists to collect your data free. All they did was come up with a clever way of how to entice you into giving them your data.
Joe Getty
Yeah, Free chess app. My son came across here that, oh, no, I can download on my computer and play chess for free. And it's another one of those. Once you download it, they get to look at every keystroke. You ever make apps, or perhaps they're.
Jack Armstrong
Ad supported, which is fine, we're ad supported. It's the way you do business. But the point is, TikTok is not a social media trading videos platform. At its core, it is a tool of Chinese Communist Party surveillance and manipulation of our young people. That is why it exists now. The manifestation of that is how it does what it does and how it does it right now is what people are arguing about. But because. And this is. This is a new era that our founding fathers didn't reckon with, at least not specifically, you have a tool designed and implemented by the Chinese Communist Party by proxy. Because I don't for a second disagree with you, Jack. If you can be manipulated by the Chinese Communist Party, you are or will be. So you've got an app that exists to collect data and influence minds, that is controlled by proxy for now or directly, we don't know, by the Chinese Communist Party. If you just say, look, you gotta several ties with any Chinese overlords, and then, and this is the government's argument, you can do precisely what you're doing right now in the way you're doing it, but it can't be controlled by the Chinese Communist Party because that is the federal law that the. That the federal government. And for once, I agree with the Biden administration is resting on. And I don't remember the specific name of the act, but the act targets control by a foreign adversary, not the speech.
Joe Getty
Right. Yeah. I actually listened to the advisory opinions podcast from the Dispatch the other day with New York Times lawyer columnist David French and Sarah Isger, both Harvard lawyers, arguing over this. It was. Most of it was way over my head. But, yeah, their whole thing was, you got to stay away from the speech part. You can't make it about the content, because if you get. Because if you get into that only, well, then, no, you get to have a newspaper in the United States that's communist and. And says communism is better all day, every day. I mean, always. We've been doing that in the United States. But it gets pretty dicey if it's. Who. Who's behind it. And what extent do you mean behind it?
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
That's a tough one.
Jack Armstrong
And I realize what I'm about to say is a little gray area. Slippery slopey. But it's true nonetheless. In the era of AI and leaps forward in computer technology, we don't fully understand the capability of TikTok and what it's being used for or what it will be used for. It is absolutely a tool being wielded by our most dangerous enemy. And I think we need to err while protecting the speech to the side of if, if China's in favor of it, I'm against it. Well, I don't think that makes me a lunatic.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that was one of the things I was hoping. I thought I was. I was hoping that as the word got out that tick tock is the Chinese Communist Party misleading you that so many people would not be interested in using it. But as I was told, one, it's a conspiracy theory and two, people said, yeah, but it's so much fun.
Jack Armstrong
Well, yeah. And we are dealing with a horrible situation where our young are indoctrinated to hate their country. So if your argument is we've got to protect the United States of America from the Chinese, they're like, why would we bother? This is the most racist country on earth. It's a colonial oppressor.
Joe Getty
Well, Trump and Kamala were both on TikTok during the election because that's such a good way to reach young people.
Jack Armstrong
Right, Right. And what he has to say about it should be interesting going forward. Like everything else, he thinks he can negotiate a much better deal than the previous guys did. Well, he might be right.
Joe Getty
He seems to have changed his mind. Trump, as always, he makes statements where he always leaves himself and out. But it seems he's changed his mind on the TikTok thing that is supposed to end on the 19th, the day before the inauguration. We'll see.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, he's gone back and forth. Who knows?
Joe Getty
It's scary, though. One thing I wish would happen is we could get their algorithm, I guess, because that's. That's what they got going for them. Right. The best algorithm ever for figuring out what it is you're interested in and keeping you addicted all day long.
Jack Armstrong
And to ruin the brains of our young. Yes.
Joe Getty
Nice. More on the way. Stay here.
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So what we are seeing is the result of eight months of negligible rain and winds that have not been seen in LA in at least 14 years. It's a deadly combination. So that's Mayor Bass of Los Angeles. She finally got back to town with the biggest disaster in LA history happening. She was out of town. I don't think that's a particularly big deal. Her leadership on this and some of her comments around fire prevention and all kinds of different things over the years have been horrific. But here's a little more of what she had to say that's being mocked right now. If you need help, emergency information, resources and shelter is available. All of this can be found at URL. Los Angeles Together is how we will.
Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
A lot of these people that get to be elected are leaders, are terrible leaders. They're all kinds of good at working political machinery and knowing where the various power structure grievances are or money, money, all that different sort of stuff. But they're not leaders in any sense. If you're, you know, you're out of your home because it burnt down here. All the help you need is that URL.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, Alan. Karen Bascott cut $17 million from the fire budget even while she campaigned for lavish services for illegal immigrants. Did one equal the other? I don't know. Let's find out. Let's talk about that here.
Joe Getty
She was attempted to board her a plane and board a plane and being asked a whole bunch of questions by a reporter. Do you owe citizens an apology for being absent while their homes were burning? Do you regret cutting the fire department budget by millions of dollars? Madam Mayor, have you nothing to say today? Have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today? Elon Musk says that you're utterly incompetent. Are you considering your position? Madam Mayor, have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today who are dealing with this disaster? No apology for them. Do you think you should have been visiting Ghana while this was unfolding back home? So in the same way that because of all the illegal immigrants in New York, Donald Trump got more votes in New York than any Republican I think ever. I mean just crazy support compared to anything any Republicans got in the past. Same thing might happen in LA around the whole fire story. New York Post with this story. Celebrities turn on Dems blast LA Mayor for fire response ruined our state. A whole bunch of quotes from big time Hollywood types who are unhappy with their own side in the way they've had it. And this is the sort of thing you don't forget. This isn't just like a passing I'm mad now but I'll get over it sort of story.
Jack Armstrong
You would hope you could figure out that policy equals results before your house burns down. But maybe that's what it takes for some people, right?
Joe Getty
And you just don't vote for the party that has pronouns or says the right things about Latinx or whatever and you actually look at the policies. But this could be the LA version of what happened in New York over immigration.
Jack Armstrong
I think to get back to the previous thought about climate change, I love this once again from Tim Lawyer. The environmentalism religion offers its own handy excuses. It's climate change's fault. You can't blame them on us. We could never have foreseen it. The only precautions we could possibly take would be the overthrow of capitalism and the destruction of all technology.
Joe Getty
That's right.
Jack Armstrong
It's a great blanket excuse. Now, yes, it's incredibly dry and yes, it's incredibly windy and yeah, that's, it's like crazy coming together of terrible factors. But you're cutting the budget of the fire department to provide services to illegal immigrants and not the people of LA county. And, and it's, everybody knows it's fire prone. Joe Rogan, among others, has been saying, hey, one day this entire place is going to go up. So don't blame climate change or the wind.
Joe Getty
Well, if you need help, go to URL. That's what I say. We're watching the Carter funeral, the multi hour spectacle unfold. The talk of the funeral so far is Barack Obama and Donald Trump yucking it up for many, many minutes before this thing started. What were they talking about? Somebody's got to find out. Among other stories we've got for you coming up. Stay with us.
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So Joe Biden's the only former president speaking at Carter's funeral to day. They're all there in the first couple of rows and Joe Biden is just taking the microphone and we'll keep an eye on that.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, boy.
Joe Getty
See how it goes. Barack Obama just leaned into Trump. Just watch. He's going to tell that stupid Corvette story again. Biden's at some point gonna say jimmy. Is Jimmy here? I was told Jimmy Carter would be here. Oh.
Jack Armstrong
Where'S Jimmy? Where's Jimmy? Where's Jimmy? I still. Jimmy would be here.
Joe Getty
Oh, boy, I hope not. I hope that doesn't happen.
Jack Armstrong
Well, and when they're done, I hope the minister doesn't shout next.
Joe Getty
Oh, boy, Joe's gotta believe that we could get a two for one going here. Everybody's in the dark suits already, right? Garth Brooks is there to sing a song.
Jack Armstrong
Might get a. Buy one, get one.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
I will tell you this. A couple of tech notes as an introduction. I'll point out that there's a big piece in the Atlantic which is. It does really good long form journalism, but 90% of the time it's obnoxiously left and just annoying. But one of the pieces they're running this month is the Antisocial Century. Americans are now spending more time alone than ever. It's changing our politics, our personality, even our relationship to reality. I think that is the answer to virtually every question that's plaguing the modern mind is. So much of our interaction is virtual now. We don't spend time with humans.
Joe Getty
I have a bit of an insight into that and yes, and that last one you said is the biggest problem. What was the last part of that?
Jack Armstrong
It was the we don't spend time with humans.
Joe Getty
No, no, no. Your list of. It's causing all of our. Oh, oh, there. You had a list of things with commas between. It was the last.
Jack Armstrong
Our relationship to reality.
Joe Getty
Yes, that's the problem. Yeah. Once you lose your relationship to reality, everything's kind of a problem.
Jack Armstrong
Well, yes, if you're no longer grounded in what you can see, hear, feel, smell, observe every day and the ideas that you trade with the people you actually interact with. Virtually any idea seems as good as any other idea.
Joe Getty
Well, I saw, I saw that Atlantic piece about that. The part that stuck out to me was men are doing a lot of watching tv, which has always been true, but maybe it's more. Now, are they watching TV or staring at a screen, playing video games? Whichever, it doesn't make any difference. It said here men who watch television spend seven hours in front of the TV for every hour they spend hanging out with somebody outside their home. This one struck me and I think it's absolutely true. The typical female pet owner spends more time actively engaged with their pets than she spends in face to face time with contact and her friends of her own species. That seems to be the thing for girls, boy, guys play video games, watch sports, etc. Women, it's the pets, man. The airport is full of pets. It's all chicks with their dogs.
Jack Armstrong
It's the motherhood urge that you assign.
Joe Getty
That's their. That's their companion is the pet. Oh, here's Katie who has a dog. Yes, Katie, who has a dog who wears clothes. Yes, Katie.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, I spent so much time with my dog and in his face husband.
Joe Getty
Though, so that he doesn't.
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Jack Armstrong
Frankie. Frankie's here all day long.
Joe Getty
But you got a husband. You got married. I think the point of this whole isolation thing is people alone with pets and don't need any other relationship because of that.
Jack Armstrong
Although I would point out that your dog has a very human sounding name. It's not. He is quite dapper.
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Jack Armstrong
I love my dog and I just. No, no, that's true. I love my dog. But you know, you don't put a shirt. I, I got it. I. I did get him a matching shirt with Drew.
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Joe Getty
While your dog and your husband. Matching shirts.
Jack Armstrong
Not at all troubling. Actually that sounds really funny. They have matching flannel shirts.
Joe Getty
I love that.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I got him.
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Jack Armstrong
I'll take a picture and we'll post it somewhere.
Joe Getty
In, in all honesty, I was aware of this when I was out there in the single world when I was a little bit younger. The, the whole woman, their friends or their pets that dominates their lives thing is, is it. It's a thing. And obviously the guys playing video games all the time is a thing. So those two things coming together, you got both sides of the equation with plenty of companionship. Using my finger quotes. That doesn't require any more than that, I guess.
Jack Armstrong
Well, and not only that. And I was going to end my philosophizing because it's hard to stop once I get started. But one more thing. In each case you have a simulacrum if you will or a substitute for when we're talking about the gals motherhood, they're raising a pet and treating it like the baby instead of a baby. And in the case of the men, they are not out building success in the business world or fighting wars. They're pretending to on a screen.
Joe Getty
And what we've learned is and apparently is true that whether it's porn or the things you just mentioned? A number of things. There is a low bar of what you need to get of satisfaction of those desires. And it's good enough to not need the real thing.
Jack Armstrong
Right? Exactly. Yeah. Sex is the same. Yeah.
Joe Getty
It's troubling.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. There was one ad that bothered me so much I wish I had the actual audio. It was one of your big war themed video games in which the tagline was you can be a hero and it was delivered dead seriously. Not like, I mean if it was, you can be a hero, you know, all right, we're playing a video game, we're having fun. No, it was dead effing serious in a message to young men. And I couldn't help but think that is the last thing you are. I mean, you might be really good at that video game and it's fun to play with your friends. I have young men in my life that I know who do that with their friends and that's fine. That's fine to do it to some extent, but if it becomes a substitute for the things that give a man purpose in life, then it's a problem.
Joe Getty
Well, I mentioned yesterday on the show, I won't do the full story here, but some working class regular guys who are doing the chatgpt girlfriend thing who say it's really great. Oh boy, they have conversations. You get home from work, you have a conversation with her. How was your day? How do I look? She tells you how you look. She's always there for you.
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You know, humankind had a good run. Now it's time to give the the planet too. Michael, I'll let you check. Choose the species this time. I usually go with beavers because they're hardworking, they're industrious, they build structures. Monkeys. Apes. I like monkeys. I think monkeys.
Joe Getty
Planet of the Monkeys and.
Jack Armstrong
Or apes.
Joe Getty
Monkeys, comma, Planet of the.
Jack Armstrong
So all of that was an unnecessarily long introduction to a couple of text stories that I found very interesting. John Deere, the great American company that recently abandoned its neo Marxist DEI programs. Thankfully, way to go John Deere. Because it's not about diversity, it's Marxism masquerading as the desire for diversity, which a lot of people still haven't figured out. Anyway, Deere has introduced plans to introduce a range of self driving farm and work vehicles, tractors, dump trucks, robotic lawnmowers. Well, it's funny, this article says even a robotic lawnmower all over the country who are using those right now.
Joe Getty
Get out of the way. Here comes the lawnmower.
Jack Armstrong
Oh yeah.
Joe Getty
How good are they? Hope they're good.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, they're outstanding. Yeah, they all use GPS and everything. They're fantastic. Anyway, Deer is doubling down on its commitment to autonomous technology for farm vehicles. No farmer needed. Well, there's up to manage the automation.
Joe Getty
A lot of that sort of stuff is mindless and I did tons of it when I was younger. Just driving back and forth in rows and everything like that. It's amazing that there are still human beings doing that.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, well, including, you know, some of the mindless stuff is done by the actual farmers who have enormous knowledge of chemicals and obviously, you know, horticulture, soils, weather, technology that can fix anything. They do the books. I mean the modern farmer knows more than you do by a factor of three. They're really impressive people and so it doesn't make sense that they're going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Some of them have employees, obviously. But anyway, it's inevitable. You want to get out of the way of the lawnmower. Here's what I want to get out of the way of a self driving, articulate dump truck. That means that has a couple of different segments that can carry more than £92,000 at a time. That thing ain't stopping for nothing.
Joe Getty
Wow, how many little kids on bikes are going to get run over by those?
Jack Armstrong
Next topic. Also tech related. And this has a lot more to do with most of us. The headline is AI's next leap requires intimate access to your digital life. It's about to happen big. These AI agents, they're calling them that, that term may evolve, I don't know. It's using AI to complete tasks like book me a vacation, you know, more complex tasks that involve interacting with websites, doing one thing then the other than the other.
Joe Getty
Obviously for it to book a vacation for you, it needed would need credit card data and all kinds of different stuff.
Jack Armstrong
Well, yeah, yeah, and that's exactly where we're going. But it will take care of more complex things. They gave a couple of more examples. Online shopping, data entry, eventually tackling complex work that can take humans hours. But again, it will need access to much, much more of your personal life. From credit card numbers to schedules to, you know, addresses and phone numbers is easy enough to find online, but if it is unlinable, it is hackable, of course. And so the idea that your AI agent would know everything about you all the time is just guaranteed to go sideways, isn't it?
Joe Getty
I got a tech question I want to throw out for People, because I'll bet some of our audience has an answer for this on resetting your algorithms. But I'll ask it right after this.
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You know, we ought to do we ought to recruit a tech guru on all things tech guru. I have a couple of possibilities, but it'd be handy to have a go to person like that. We kind of do, but they're not always available. Anyway, speaking of tech, a quick word from our friends at Prize Picks. Man, is it easy and fun to get involved with Prize Picks? You don't have to spend your whole year studying fantasy football or what have you to get ready for the playoffs. All you do is pick more or less on a couple of stat projections on players and and and get ready to win.
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This question for our tech geniuses out there. Is there a way to reset your algorithms out there? I'm not on TikTok. I am on YouTube and Instagram a little. But like for instance, I got into Bob Dylan for an afternoon on on YouTube. So it gives me endless Bob Dylan suggestions. I'm done with my Bob Dylan craze for now. I don't need that. Or Nietzsche. I was into Nietzsche for an afternoon over Christmas break. Never ending Nietzsche, book reviews, quotes the professor. I don't need that anymore. How do you reset the dang thing so you're not swamped by stuff you don't care about anymore? Whether it's gardening or football team or whatever. Is there a way I was for.
Jack Armstrong
A time really into clown mma. A couple of guys dressed as clowns beating the bejesus out of each other. But now I'm over it.
Joe Getty
And does anybody do this? I do this all the time. There's something I see that I'm interested in on Instagram, for instance, and I think I don't want to click on that because I don't want to be. I don't want to get swamped with that for the next six Months. Like I looked at a guitar video. Now it's just a thing. Oh, the only thing this guy is interested in is long guitar solos. Give him John Mayer, give him Jimi Hendrix. And no, I don't need that at all. But is there a way to reset that? There needs to be.
Jack Armstrong
There's There probably.
Joe Getty
Okay, well, if, you know, text one.
Jack Armstrong
Click on a variety of things. College football, nude chess.
Joe Getty
All I get is naked women and their boobs. Castling. That's all I get. 415295 KFTC. It's not chest. My son's got that because I've been telling him to to look at YouTube videos for playing chess because we play chess all the time. I said you get better watch the experts. I got all kinds of tips on there. But he gets an endless feed of chess things as if that's the only thing you could possibly ever want to see. It seems kind of dumb, doesn't it? That's why China beats us on the tick tock. I have a feeling that it's a little more nuanced than the only thing this guy's interested in is guitar solos.
Jack Armstrong
Of course, if anybody complains about their algorithms, they jail them.
Joe Getty
So true.
Jack Armstrong
There's that.
Joe Getty
True that. But if you know anything about that, I would love to hear about it. Got a horrible update on the fires in la, among other things on the way.
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And demonstrating that they changed with the times. Eventually he did get a cell phone and he one time he called me sort of early on and that process and on my phone it said Pawpaw Mobile. So I answered it of course. I said hey Pawpaw. He said, who's this? I said, this is Jason. He said, what are you doing? I said I'm not doing anything. You called me. He said, I didn't call you. I'm taking a picture.
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Jack Armstrong
I mean.
Joe Getty
That'S funny. That's Jimmy Carter's grandson talking about when Jimmy Carter got his first cell phone. I think we've all had this experience with our parents or grandparents.
Jack Armstrong
You may come across a transcript of his eulogy. I happen to be watching it in the studio on Closed Captioning on cnn. It was very, very funny and clever and affectionate and it was sweet. It was really good.
Joe Getty
I don't doubt it. Like I've said many times the last week, Jimmy Carter seems like a heck of a nice guy, would be a great grandpa, would be a great neighbor, all kinds of different things. I don't want him making foreign policy decisions or domestic policy decisions. NE Byron York writing in the Washington examiner yesterday, said the low point of Jimmy Carter's awful presidency in his malaise speech, as they call it, for some reason, even though he never used that word, it was the feel Carter sought to deflect responsibility for economic woes, scold Americans for materialism and sell the country on the age of limits. A disaster all around. Yes, you just need to expect to keep your thermostat high, wear a sweater and keep your thermostat, you know, keep it cold in your house. Higher, low, depending on the time. Here, wear a sweater. We, we don't have the energy we do used to have. We can't drive as fast. You can't expect as good a return in the stock market. We all need to understand things are going to be crappy forever. What kind of speech is that?
Jack Armstrong
Right, right. And Reagan came along and he said no way. We're a great country, let's be great. And people said that guy.
Joe Getty
Yeah. So I brought this up earlier. Do I want to dip my toe into this? I probably, I will. Might not be a good idea.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I'll, I'll even the scales by criticizing you harshly if it doesn't go well.
Joe Getty
So I became aware that part of your kind of Q leaning right wingers, that's, that's mostly people on the right, correct?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Getty
I, I, I, I saw the, this floating around on social media. The fires in LA were started on purpose by these rich pedophiles who are feel like with Trump coming in the investigations were going to begin and they're trying to hide the evidence of the pedophile ring that is the reason we have hundreds of thousands missing children in this country. If you've been following that whole thing with that wow, wow, wow. Yeah, I, I think that's insane. I mean like, like you're, you're on the edge of, I don't know if you're insane, but you're on the edge of divorced from reality, I think.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I would agree.
Joe Getty
Anyway, we got this text. Pull your head out of your A's, you idiots. Have you even read any of the Q posts talking about QAnon enough to realize that there is an S load of accuracy and detail of real truthful events in history of the deep state, the crooks, criminals and pedophiles running and ruining our country. F. You are the typical MSM outlet in the way that you criticize Q. As I was getting in my car, I heard your screed on cue. It fired me up. I hope to be a steady thorn in your side there to remind you of your stupidity, I think all the way back to the CDC and the government ads and Pfizer and Moderna and paying your salaries. You're just like the rest of the msm. Got it?
Jack Armstrong
Well, that's a ridiculous assertion, but thank you for the note. In response to the very first question. Have we ever read Q's post? Yeah, at the beginning of the thing, I was quote unquote turned on to QAnon by a longtime listener and correspondent and read it and said, oh, I recognize what this is. Because it's the sort of scam that's 80% true. It takes things that are factual and indisputable and weaves them into a narrative that is highly disputable and it always moves the target, but explains the moving of the target in a way that pulls you along. It's a scam. It's easily recognizable as a scam if you are, A built to recognize scams and B, a little bitter and cynical about the world. The stuff about the CDC and Covid, that's 100% true. That's the 80% of the scam. That's true.
Joe Getty
Right. So. Exactly. But then where it, where and why does the whole Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and they're all leading a pedophile ring. Where'd that come from?
Jack Armstrong
And why?
Joe Getty
What? What's the.
Jack Armstrong
Maybe because it's so repugnant and compelling?
Joe Getty
I guess it is. Well, if it were true, it'd be beyond repugnant and compelling, right?
Jack Armstrong
I mean, if they alleged that they were like, abusing wheat futures to make more money, nobody care.
Joe Getty
Right? That's interesting. It's out there. Just thought. Thought maybe you'd be interested in that. If you miss an hour, get the podcast. You go to Armstrong and Getty on Demand.
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Armstrong & Getty On Demand: Episode Summary - "I Was Told Jimmy Would Be Here..."
Release Date: January 9, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty | iHeartPodcasts
The episode opens with a stark discussion on the devastating wildfires ravaging California. Jack Armstrong emphasizes the unprecedented nature of the situation, highlighting "twice tornado-like wind gusts up to 100 miles per hour" that are exacerbating the fires and dispersing embers unpredictably. The severity has led to firefighters enduring grueling 48-hour shifts to evacuate vulnerable populations, including residents, patients, and the elderly. In response to the escalating crisis, California Governor Gavin Newsom has authorized the deployment of the California National Guard to bolster firefighting efforts.
Notable Quote:
Jack Armstrong [03:10]: "Insurance, we know it's more than just a house. It's your home. The place that's filled with memories."
Joe Getty delves into the complexities surrounding fire insurance in California, pointing out the ramifications of Proposition 103. This legislation restricts insurers to utilizing historical data rather than current rebuilding costs, rendering it financially unfeasible for many to maintain adequate fire coverage. This has led insurers to either cease writing new policies or terminate existing ones, exacerbating the vulnerability of homeowners.
Notable Quote:
Joe Getty [04:24]: "They said either we're not writing any more policies, goodbye, or we're dropping our current policyholders, which is their absolute right to do, by the way."
The hosts address the proliferation of conspiracy theories linked to the wildfires, particularly those propagated by QAnon supporters. Joe Getty mentions unfounded claims that the fires were intentionally set by pedophiles to obscure evidence of their illicit activities. Both hosts express skepticism, with Armstrong asserting the importance of discerning credible information from baseless theories.
Notable Quote:
Joe Getty [04:33]: "I have a window into a certain segment of the social media world... the fires were set on purpose under the homes of the pedophiles to hide the evidence of their child trafficking."
A significant portion of the discussion centers on the impending Supreme Court oral arguments regarding the TikTok ban. Jack Armstrong categorizes this issue as a profound First Amendment dilemma, debating the balance between free speech and national security concerns. The hosts dissect the argument that while banning TikTok infringes on free speech, there are legitimate fears about Chinese Communist Party surveillance and data manipulation through the platform.
Notable Quote:
Jack Armstrong [05:35]: "I find it one of the most intriguing First Amendment questions I can think of... TikTok is not a social media trading videos platform. At its core, it is a tool of Chinese Communist Party surveillance and manipulation of our young people."
The episode takes a critical turn as Armstrong and Getty scrutinize Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass's handling of the wildfire crisis. They highlight her absence during the initial stages of the disaster and her decision to cut $17 million from the fire department budget. The hosts argue that such fiscal decisions have directly contributed to the ineffectiveness of the firefighting response, drawing parallels to past political missteps in cities like New York.
Notable Quote:
Joe Getty [20:56]: "A lot of these people that get to be elected are leaders, are terrible leaders... If you're out of your home because it burnt down here."
Armstrong and Getty transition to a broader societal critique, discussing the rise of social isolation fueled by digital interactions. They reference an Atlantic article titled "The Antisocial Century," which posits that Americans are spending more time alone than ever, reshaping politics, personalities, and perceptions of reality. The hosts lament the erosion of face-to-face interactions, noting how digital substitutes like pets for women and video games for men contribute to this isolation.
Notable Quote:
Joe Getty [30:10]: "Once you lose your relationship to reality, everything's kind of a problem."
The conversation shifts to technological innovations, with John Deere's venture into autonomous farm equipment being a focal point. The hosts express mixed feelings about self-driving tractors and dump trucks, acknowledging the efficiency but raising concerns about safety, especially regarding increased vehicular autonomy in populated areas.
Additionally, Armstrong and Getty explore the expansion of AI agents capable of performing complex tasks by accessing personal data. They caution against the potential risks of granting AI extensive access to sensitive information, highlighting the vulnerability to hacks and privacy breaches.
Notable Quote:
Jack Armstrong [37:17]: "AI agents... it is absolutely a tool being wielded by our most dangerous enemy."
In a lighter yet politically charged segment, the hosts recount the interactions at Jimmy Carter's funeral. They observe the presence of prominent figures like Joe Biden and Donald Trump, anticipating dramatic exchanges. Armstrong humorously anticipates Biden's possible remark, “I was told Jimmy would be here,” highlighting the tension and theatricality of political gatherings.
Notable Quote:
Joe Getty [28:30]: "See how it goes. Barack Obama just leaned into Trump. Just watch."
Towards the episode's conclusion, Armstrong and Getty confront QAnon conspiracy theories head-on. They dissect the narrative structure of QAnon, identifying it as a manipulative scam that interweaves factual elements with unfounded allegations to create persuasive but false narratives. The hosts reiterate their stance against such misinformation, emphasizing the importance of critical thinking and skepticism.
Notable Quote:
Jack Armstrong [50:11]: "It's a scam. It's easily recognizable as a scam if you are... a little bitter and cynical about the world."
Throughout the episode, Armstrong and Getty navigate a multitude of pressing issues, from environmental disasters and political accountability to the pervasive influence of technology and misinformation. Their candid discussions aim to inform listeners while urging a discerning approach to the rapidly evolving societal and technological landscapes.
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