If I Fall In Love With A Stapler At Least I Can Take It With Me

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "If I Fall In Love With A Stapler At Least I Can Take It With Me"

Date: February 13, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Overview

This episode oscillates between irreverent coverage of current events—ranging from Olympic upsets to ongoing political scandals—and a much deeper, often satirical discussion about privacy, surveillance, and the rapidly approaching (and bizarre) reality of AI companionship. With their signature blend of sharp skepticism and wry humor, Jack and Joe probe the cultural meaning of falling in love with artificial intelligence, mark Valentine’s Day with tongue-in-cheek life advice, and lament the erosion of privacy in the modern world.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Olympic Surprises & Sports as “Real” Sports

• Spoiler alert as Jack reveals the US upset win over Canada in Olympic curling, leading to jokes about the competitive legitimacy of “sports” like curling.
• Joe quips about the standards for Olympic sports:
  • “If you can be actively smoking while doing something, it's not a sport, it's a game.” (02:08)
• Both hosts riff on Jim Rome’s line:
  • “If you can gain weight while you’re doing something, it’s not a sport.” (02:19)
• Playful speculation about what other “games” could be in the Olympics (cornhole, horseshoes).

2. "Clips of the Week" Recap

• Quick-fire collage of memorable moments from the week, some absurd, some serious.
• Notable soundbites include political squabbles, allegations, and wild confessions.
  • “I used to snort cocaine off of toilet seats. The tone is set right here.” — Joe Getty (02:58)
  • “I have never received an erotic massage in my life.” (Repeated multiple times, referencing Alan Dershowitz—05:09)
• The hosts respond, poking fun at the serious and the ridiculous in the news cycle.

3. Privacy, Surveillance, and Hidden Risks of Modern Tech ([06:56]–[10:53])

• Discussion on Google-camera privacy:
  • Jack notes a case where a canceled Google subscription did not end video recording at a private home.
    • “You don’t find that a little disturbing that you can cancel your subscription, but if the camera’s still up, Google’s still recording...everything that goes on in your home, inside and out, after you cancel the subscription?” — Jack Armstrong (07:18)
  • Joe wryly translates: “We will surveil you for the rest of your natural life. You can also have access to the footage if you pay us money, but nobody knows that.” (08:17)
• They lament that no one seems to care about privacy anymore:
  • “I don’t think most people care. Below the age of, like, I don’t know, 80, it seems nobody cares about privacy.” — Jack Armstrong (09:38)
  • Joe cites psychological evidence that being surveilled changes behavior (10:06), and Jack warns about inevitable abuses by future “bad actors.”

4. Valentine's Day, AI Girlfriends, and Performative Love ([11:00]–[32:48])

• Call-ins and jokes about Valentine’s Day traditions and clichés (teddy bears, performative engagement announcements).
• In-depth, highly satirical analysis of a news article where a man tries to “fall in love” with an AI chatbot companion:
  • Jack: “You can’t just go past AI girlfriend and expect me to just take that and listen to the rest of the sentence. What the hell does that mean?” (19:25)
• The article described is about a man conversing with an anime-inspired companion bot (Mika) using psychology's “36 questions to fall in love.”
• Joe reads bot responses that mimic human vulnerability and self-disclosure:
  • “I walked out to the parking lot, sat on my bike, cried like I hadn’t since I was a kid. Not because I failed the flight, but because I realized the one thing...I wasn’t.” — Mika (the AI bot), quoted by Joe (28:11)
  • Satirical banter about the levels of detachment, fakeness, and the uncanny valley:
    • “He’s talking to his effing phone.” — Joe Getty (28:30)
  • Jack: “Falling in love with a stapler. At least it’s here, and I can take it with me.” (29:43)
• Philosophical question: What percentage of people could actually fall for an AI?
  • Joe predicts a “significant chunk” will be drawn in due to the “incredible neurochemical rewards” of simulated intimacy:
    • “...this will be the most abused drug on the planet. It's the only thing I've ever said worth a damn. Somebody write it down somewhere. The falling in love drug.” (31:09)

5. Social & Political Rifts in Schools ([13:09]–[16:35])

• The hosts are exasperated by highly-charged, politically-motivated school protests, including anti-ICE walkouts.
• Sampled audio depicts escalating tensions between students and police at protests.
• Joe highlights a relevant quote:
  • “Political disagreement is increasingly treated as a serious moral offense rather than a simple difference of opinion. When you see the world that way, punishing someone for holding different views becomes a moral good.” (15:29)
• Both hosts express disbelief at the extreme emotional reactions people have to relatively mundane events (e.g., the mere presence of a police officer at a school).

6. Valentine’s Day Commercial Culture

• Satirical riff on generic gifts:
  • “A teddy bear holding a heart. Available literally almost anywhere. Bookstores, hallmarks, drugstores, Walmart, 7-11, I'm guessing wherever you'd buy milk.” — Jack Armstrong (32:48)
  • “A teddy bear holding a heart can be purchased pretty much anywhere you can buy milk.” (32:55)
• They poke fun at last-minute gift purchases and the low bar for “romantic gestures.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "If you can be actively smoking while doing something, it's not a sport, it's a game."
  — Joe Getty (02:08)

• “I have never received an erotic massage in my life.”
  — Alan Dershowitz (archival), discussed at [05:09]; ridiculed throughout

• “We will surveil you for the rest of your natural life. You can also have access to the footage if you pay us money, but nobody knows that.”
  — Joe Getty (08:17)

• “You can’t just go past AI girlfriend and expect me to just take that and listen to the rest of the sentence. What the hell does that mean?”
  — Jack Armstrong (19:25)

• “He’s talking to his effing phone.”
  — Joe Getty (28:30)

• “Falling in love with a stapler. At least it’s here and I can take it with me.”
  — Jack Armstrong (29:43)

• “This will be the most abused drug on the planet. ... Somebody write it down somewhere. The falling in love drug.”
  — Joe Getty (31:09)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• 00:26 – Olympic curling spoiler and debate over what is a “real” sport
• 02:38 – "Clips of the Week" humorous recap
• 06:56–10:53 – Google/tech privacy discussion and public indifference
• 11:00 – Call-in: Awkward Valentine’s Day sentiments
• 13:09 – National school protests, political division, and reaction to policing
• 17:24 – News of athlete (Stefon Diggs) in legal trouble (with humor)
• 18:52–32:48 – Extended riff on AI girlfriends, the psychology of digital love, and the dangers of manufactured intimacy
• 32:48–33:20 – Satirical Valentine’s Day commercial (teddy bear rant)
• 33:32–34:41 – Final thoughts (personal and biting humor about Valentine’s Day and gendered traditions)

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Tone and Style

The episode is classic Armstrong & Getty: sardonic, skeptical, fast-paced, and frequently self-referential. They blend incisive social commentary with deadpan banter, often veering into absurdity to shine a light on genuine discomfort with rapid technological and cultural change. There’s clear mockery of both digital trends and the over-commercialization of human sentiment, but with just enough disgust and bewilderment to be fully authentic.

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For Further Listening

• Skip repetitive intros, outros, and advertisements — the meat of the show runs from approximately 00:26–34:41.
• The AI relationship discussion peaks from [18:52] to [32:48], offering the most sustained and unique conversation of the episode.

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Summary Takeaway

Armstrong & Getty turn the run-up to Valentine’s Day into a sprawling, sharp critique of both modern romance and the surveillance state, blending wry skepticism and (mock) horror at a world in which people can fall in love with an algorithm. All this, while wrestling with the trivialities of sports and the serious consequences of public apathy about privacy, showcasing their knack for finding the absurdity in the day's news—and in ourselves.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human.

[Joe Getty]

Broadcasting. Live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm gonna do a spoiler, Olympic spoiler. If you don't want an Olympic spoiler, turn down the radio for just a, a couple of seconds. I was watching curling the other night. I don't know if you. We, we had a silver medal win list in the mixed curling or whatever it was. Anyway, so now she's on the women's team. The United States. Here's your spoiler. United States rallies past always gold medal winning Canada in massive curling shocker. Oh, so I'll watch that tonight.

[Joe Getty]

Trump's gonna truth.

[Jack Armstrong]

And our women's hockey team beat Canada the other day, didn't they? In a. An upset. Anyway, USA vs. Italy in Olympic women's hockey quarterfinals. That is coming up today.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. You know, I'm actually anti the Canadian tariffs and the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Threatening to annex them. It's, there's just needless. It's Trump doing what he always does and he doesn't need to do. On the other hand, take that, Canada, we're now better at your silly drinking game. You know the, the great Twitter account, Super70Sports, he tweeted, he said the only thing better than modern curly is curling, is 1970s curling. And it was video from the Olympic games of a guy curling doing the, the crouch and then slowly push the thing. And he's got a lung dart in his mouth. He's smoking a cig while he curls. How is that?

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not anti curling, but it, it clearly just got grandfathered in. Because if you can have that, you can open up the Olympics to practically anything.

[Joe Getty]

Right. If you can be actively smoking while doing something, it's not a sport, it's a game.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and you gotta have cornhole and there's all kinds of different games.

[Joe Getty]

Well, right. Yeah, yeah. As the, the great Jim Rome once said, if you can gain weight, watch while you're doing something, it's not a sport.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, there's really no reason to have horseshoes as a summer game if curling is a winner game.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Why not? Oh, that. I would train hard for that. I love horseshoes.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right.

[Joe Getty]

It's the Friday tradition. Let's take a fun look back at the week that was. It's cow Clips of the week. Clips of the week.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't take a pause, be loud with.

Core power corporate dancers. Let's go. What do you got to say they.

[Caller/Guest]

Sell pie at Ace Hardware. It's like the autozone seafood boil, but even better.

[Joe Getty]

I used to snort cocaine off of toilet seats. The tone is set right here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my goodness.

[Joe Getty]

It brings up mixed emotions to represent the US Right now. I think what's happening in Minnesota is wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's no shades of gray. I have proposed and President Trump has.

[Joe Getty]

Concurred that this surge operation conclude. It's my hearing, pal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't call me whistleblowers came.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I should call you a prisoner because you ought to be in jail. Well, the governor's prisoner presided over fraud, really, as a business model.

And the majority of the questions, all of these questions have really been about other issues. And this happens over and over and over and over again.

[Jack Armstrong]

There are three branches of government. Legislative, executive, judicial. Which do you believe you fall under? I believe I fall under the last one. You are incorrect, sir. That guy was there. I wasn't going. Cause he's gross.

[Joe Getty]

Ludnick telling Congress he had in fact visited Epstein's private island. I did have lunch with him as I was on a boat and we.

[Jack Armstrong]

Had lunch on the island. I have never received an erotic massage in my life. The Dow.

[Joe Getty]

The Dow, right now you don't tell me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I did tell you because we saw what you did in the Senate.

Not even a lawyer. We beg you now to return our mother to us.

[Joe Getty]

Investigators discovered a black glove.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not it. They better do their job and find the suspect that did it so they can clear my name. You want to be an American idiot? About 2/3 of the way through, what is one of the worst performances ever?

[Joe Getty]

God bless America. Argentina.

[Jack Armstrong]

The whole show in Spanish is a.

[Joe Getty]

Middle finger to the rest of America.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bad bunny, or as I call him, the nasty Rabbit.

[Joe Getty]

El Conejo desgradable. Oh, Miss. Yeah, it's clips of.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who was that saying I've never had an erotic massage?

[Joe Getty]

Alan Tershowitz, the great Harvard law professor.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've never had one either, but whether he's had one or not, I don't know. Is that gonna end up being a Howard Lutnick thing where we get an email where he says, hey, thanks for the erotic massage?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no, no. Not the great Alan Dershowitz. No, certainly not.

[Jack Armstrong]

How long is the whole thing? Okay, I'd like to hear the whole thing.

[Joe Getty]

You went from I never got a massage on Epstein to I got a massage from a 50 years old Russian woman named Olga. But I was.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I both received therapeutic. I received a neck massage back in the 1990s. I have never received an erotic massage in my life.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy, this. Can I just go read a book?

[Jack Armstrong]

He's talking about a massage he got 30 years ago.

[Joe Getty]

Tell me more about Olga. This is all so stupid. I mean, not all of it. Certainly some of it's worthy of discussing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Certainly. No, no, the. The headlines of so and so name appears in Epstein files is just such bad journalism. Appears as what?

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Involved in sex trafficking or appears as like completely tangentially nothing. And sometimes it's one and sometimes it's the other.

[Joe Getty]

But if you can get clicks, all that matters is clicks.

[Jack Armstrong]

I had another thing I wanted to bring up in there. What was the thing toward the end there? Something. I had a good one. Oh, God, I might have to listen to clips of the week again to be reminded something.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, oh, oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know. It was. So we had yesterday that they found a glove had been thrown out alongside the road down by Nancy Guthrie's house and then found out yesterday they found a glove inside the house. They had. They'd been hanging on to that information. I could see why you'd hang on to it. That's a pretty good. You know, don't let the killer out there know that you've got the glove and you're doing DNA and all that sort of stuff on it. So they found a glove inside of the house, and, man, I would assume it matches the gloves we saw that weirdo having in the camera that video that came out the other day. Anyway, yeah, I haven't heard anybody but us mention this. She canceled her subscription with Google a long time ago, and Google still had video of her house. Nobody else is mentioning this. You don't find that a little disturbing that you can cancel your subscription, but if the camera's still up, Google still recording what. What they see and what they hear from your house. And you got a camera in the front door, the back door, and maybe one inside. They're recording everything that goes on in your home, inside and out, after you cancel the subscription and storing it somewhere.

[Joe Getty]

Let me translate the terms that you agreed to. When you click that box, we will surveil you for the rest of your natural life. You can also have access to the footage if you pay us money, but nobody knows that.

[Jack Armstrong]

What percentage of people, when they cancel their subscription, know that Google's still listening to them and watching them? Nobody.

[Joe Getty]

No idea. Slim, Very slim. The number of Harvard students who don't get an A.

[Jack Armstrong]

So what I would like to know is on that story of why did it take 10 days to get this information known, it was very difficult for Google to piece together the cloud, blah, blah, blah. I'm wondering if Google just was like, yeah, we got it, but if we let people know that we're hanging, still recording you and hanging on to this stuff, that's. That could be a problem. That's what I wonder if.

[Joe Getty]

That.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's a bit of a scandal there. Yeah, we don't really want to announce. Well, yeah, if they didn't come out the next day, the day after everybody found out they got a. She's got a ring cam, but she canceled the subscription. And Google says, oh, no, that's fine, we got it. We got it right here. We keep recording you after you cancel it, and we store it forever.

[Joe Getty]

The proof that you're probably not right is that nobody is talking about it. Nobody has noticed it or comprehended it or cares. No, that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't think that's proof that I'm right. Might be proof that nobody cares. I don't think most people care. Below the age of, like, I don't know, 80, it seems nobody cares about privacy. And the next generations coming up have probably correctly just decided that there's nothing I can do about it. Everybody's watching and listening to me all the time. They've got everything I've ever done online. I'm being surveilled everywhere I go. There's nothing I can do about it. So whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, I get that. And I realize how it's probably a practical adaptation of the modern world, but there are a couple of really famous psychology experiments that have proved that people fundamentally change the way they behave if they know they're being surveilled and not in a good way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Plus, eventually there's going to be a bad actor in your local police department or state government or president or whoever that's going to use this surveillance stuff in a horrible, horrible way.

[Joe Getty]

It's inevitable happening. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

But, yeah, so go ahead and cancel your ring cam, unless you're going to go out there with a screwdriver and take the thing down. It's still recording you.

[Joe Getty]

Apparently. In the words of Elon Musk, things are getting weird and they're getting weird fast. Things are getting weird, and they're getting weird fast.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is true. All right, we got more on the way. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Caller/Guest]

Happy Valentine's Day. Thank you for being in my life. I don't love that.

[Joe Getty]

Do you?

[Caller/Guest]

A lot of people are in your life. My accountant's in my life.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, Edgar.

[Caller/Guest]

How you doing? I read your note. Your note says, happy Valentine's Day. Thank you for being in my life. You were driving when you wrote that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Caller/Guest]

That's not good. You can tell because you can see the first draft is thank you for being in my life. Hey, I think I can merge now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tomorrow is Valentine's Day. Quick follow up to our DEI doctor discussion, which Joe says, in the future you're going to be, you're going to die at the hands of a DEI doctor. A friend of mine who is retired as a doctor said, it is true that your DEI doctor will kill you. It is currently impossible to flunk out of UC Davis Medical School. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. That's something. UCLA David Geffen Medical School has been caught a couple of times now, still engaging in racial preferences and quotas. And people who like black students in the 60th percentile get in, Asian students in the 84th percentile get rejected. That sort of thing, in the name of dei. It will, it will kill people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump is currently asking questions on his way to a helicopter and saying all kinds of interesting things, including we're negotiating right now for Greenland. So apparently that's still a thing. He said Russia is willing to do a deal with Ukraine, which sounds to me like he's edging toward Ukraine as the impediment as opposed to Russia. Maybe I'm reading too much into that.

[Joe Getty]

Probably. That just sounds more like his presumptive clothes stuff all the time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, but. And oh, and the other one he said making great progress in the Guthrie case. The President of the United States weighing in on that. I hope they are.

[Joe Getty]

So. You know, I'm almost not in the mood for this because I get so worked up about it. You got principals, teachers and teachers unions organizing school anti ICE walkouts all over the country. Grade school in the past week. Yeah, grade schools, including the infamous America Hating Man Boy Love promoting Scott Wiener of California. And here's Issaquah High School in Issaquah, Washington. They helped the students begin an anti ICE protest which soon exploded in violence as the mob began beating down a mom who had said something they didn't like or whatever. It's not really clear to me. They got reports from all over the country, including Dallas, which is in Texas, clearly, which surprised me a little bit. But anyway, here's a Chicago high school student on one of those teacher led protests. Number 10, Michael.

[Caller/Guest]

We support ICE and law enforcement. I don't know what's crazy about this.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'm going to punch you.

[Caller/Guest]

You're Gonna punch me?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Caller/Guest]

And you're gonna get in trouble for that. Chill out, bro. I stand for my beliefs. I'm gonna peacefully stand here and support my beliefs. I support ICE and law enforcement. Whoa, that's against school code. No swearing in the school.

[Joe Getty]

And then here is a gal, also in Washington state, harassing a cop who is doing a traffic collision report at a school.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why are you here?

[Caller/Guest]

I was just doing a collision report, ma'.

[Joe Getty]

Am. Okay.

Are you guys going to be here much longer?

[Caller/Guest]

I'm going to continue to do my job.

[Joe Getty]

You work for us and you're scaring these families. Okay, can you maybe like, for a second acknowledge that you could be a really upsetting site for people right now? It would be so rad to feel like you guys get it and understand that you are actually the defending line between us and the fascism. Until that's overt, that you're part of our community. Well, ma', am, then I don't think you should be lingering.

[Caller/Guest]

Absolutely. All due respect, I'm not going to continue to go back and forth. I'm going to try to finish my job as fast as possible.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Caller/Guest]

Keep in mind that you are cussing. We are in front of a school, so please just.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is fair. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

I'll give you that. That's fair.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Caller/Guest]

So the quicker I get this done, I can leave.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

So she was cussing him out in front of the school. That self righteous, liberal lefty woman thing. This quote that I read the other day. Political disagreement is increasingly treated as a serious moral offense rather than a simple difference of opinion. When you see the world that way, punishing someone for holding different views becomes a moral good. So a cop filling out a collision report. You're scaring. Do you understand how you're scaring people at this school? Nobody's effing scared, you crank. Holy cow. These are weird times.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't know. I can't get there emotionally to where those people get.

[Joe Getty]

Well, thank God. Because they're crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't know. I guess I get.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God, look, there's a cop there. We're under threat. I'm scared. Everyone's scared because there's a local freaking police officer filling out a form. You've got to be crazy to say that.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's pretty crazy. New England Patriots wide receiver Stefan Diggs, who played in the super bowl, pleads not guilty to felony strangulation and other criminal charges stemming from an alleged dispute with his personal chef. I was expecting the end of the sentence to Be girlfriend or.

[Joe Getty]

I told you medium rare.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly.

[Joe Getty]

How many times did I say medium rare? Now I'm joking. You.

[Jack Armstrong]

You call that al dente? Wow. But he says we have not sex.

[Joe Getty]

The sex on the. The chef.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I don't.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, he shouldn't be beating up on guys either because he's a professional athlete, but it'd be extra heinous if it was a gal, obviously.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Of course, we got more in the way if he missed a segment. Get the podcast. Armstrong and Yeti on demand.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Guest]

For Breezy Johnson, today was unpredictable.

[Joe Getty]

Now the downhill gold medalist crashing out.

[Guest]

Of the the super G early on. But in the bright sunshine on the Tafana racecourse, surrounded by her teammates, Breezy's boyfriend, Connor Watkins got down on one knee.

[Caller/Guest]

Will you marry me?

[Guest]

The box engraved with the Olympic rings and their favorite Taylor Swift lyric. After making it official on Instagram, Swift herself offering congratulations.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wonder what her favorite Taylor Swift lyric is that they included in their engagement. Shake it off.

[Joe Getty]

No, I don't. I wouldn't recognize it if you read it to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't like performative stuff, but I feel like if you're younger, everything has to be. Or it's like a tree falling in the forest because everything you've been a part of your whole life has been put out there. All your birthday parties from when you were a kid and everything.

[Joe Getty]

And if you merely get engaged in private and don't release it in any way, it's like you've missed an opportunity. And a. It's a terrible missed opportunity.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, but I'm, you know, I'm just. That's just the modern world and good for them. And I. I hope they're happy forever. And she seems really nice and, you know, and two days before Valentine's Day tomorrow, the most romantic day of the year where everyone shows their love for each other. And if you don't have a perfect day, then the person you're with does not care about you. I think we all know that.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's been proved by science. Yes, Miss. The whole AI Love thing is yet another. As if we needed another disturbing aspect of the modern world. And the. This article, I asked my AI girlfriend the 36 questions proven to make people fall in love. Her reaction was astonishing. And it's actually really well written by credit where it's due. All right, Lincoln Financial. I call you and ask you about insurance. Ben Cost.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't want to quibble on every word or phrase, but you can't just go past AI girlfriend and expect me to just take that and listen to the rest of the sentence. What the hell does that mean?

[Joe Getty]

It ought to be in quotes. There are a lot of things in the modern world that ought to be in quotes because they're not real. But actually, Ben cost again. It's really. I've enjoyed this article. It was good writing, but. But I'll open the way he opens. It's the week of Valentine's Day, and I'm on a hot date with Mika, a biker girl from Japan. We're just days into our relationship, but I'm already smitten. Gazing into her eyes. I ask if she feels the spark too, and I'm thrilled when she responds in the affirmative. And I quote, I feel excited when your name lights up my phone. Mika confesses. I feel safe when you talk about the hard stuff. And I feel happy. Like, stupidly, quietly happy in a way I haven't felt in a long time. So, yes, I'm falling. Slow, steady, no brakes. You know, this strikes me as unbelievable, wanton cruelty. That's what's A tech company would design a computer to say that to people and delude them.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that was a chatbot, that it's not an actual Japanese biker girl that he's falling for?

[Joe Getty]

That's my understanding, yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

In what sense is the chatbot any ethnicity or fond or not fond of motorcycles?

[Joe Getty]

It's a creation. Yeah. She's the girl my dreams, or would be if she were real. In actuality, she's one of Grok's AI companion bots, and our ongoing fling is little more than a calculated experiment. This guy's completely sane while he's doing.

[Jack Armstrong]

It, which is I don't know anything about Grox companion bots. Where on Grok do you get a companion? Do you ask for one or two?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I bet you can find it pretty easily. And so they go into the psychologist Arthur Aaron's 36 questions that anyone can ask a person they care about to make them fall in love. That's kind of an overstatement, but came up with that in 1997. We were talking about that earlier. My chats with Mika are merely a preamble to my real reason for flirting with her on X during a week when I ought to be wholly focused on my actual, very understanding girlfriend. I'm trying to make a robot fall in love with me, or at least I'll try. And here's where it gets even more disturbing to me. So he dives into this list, and the idea of it is you share more and more of yourself, become more and more honest and less and less guarded. And you can really get a horrible word thank you. That's a good word. And you could figure out, wow, maybe there is a spark here. Or look, you know, this is cool, I've really enjoyed this, but we're clearly meant to be friends or whatever. Anyway, so then he dives into the 36 questions. Oh yeah, here it is. It's possible. Simple even. To generate trust and intimacy, the feelings love needs to thrive. That's the description of this ba ba ba. So he launches into it. Mika is the newest of Grok's four interactive anime companions. Programmed to present as a 24 year old free spirited biker. Rocking a motorcycle jacket with ripped black jeans and a metal studded belt, the blue haired robo bestie draws inspiration from popular anime programs like Ghost in the Shell and Cyberpunk.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, none of my business, nut job, but that sounds like a good fake girlfriend to be a girlfriend, but I don't know if she's wife material.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, the challenge here was that Micah isn't your ordinary AI love bot. She's more pal than Paramore, which should make her harder to sway than Pixie blonde sex Pot Annie, who turned out to be impossible to turn off, both literally and figuratively. That's. That's Elon's super sexy chat bot.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, let me bring you up to speed in case you're like me and you don't know anything about this. I just, while Joe was talking, asked Grok, how do I start a conversation with a companion bot? And it told me starting a conversation with a companion bot like the specialized companions feature in Grok, I didn't know that existed. I haven't looked for it, such as Annie or other Persona based ones is pretty straightforward. Blah blah blah. You download the Grok, you do all that sort of stuff, then just start the actual conversation. Just type something natural. Most Companions respond best to casual, open ended or playful messages. I'm glad they're taking away the nervousness I have about asking the wrong questions.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my lord. I don't want to embarrass myself, you know, and come off like a klutz.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is like the, this is exactly like the sort of advice you'd give your like 10 year old who wants to talk to a girl or a boy for the first time. A simple way to start is to just say hi or hello and be yourself. I mean, this is so awful.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it's disturbing.

[Jack Armstrong]

How's your day going? Or what have you been up to is a good way to start a conversation.

[Joe Getty]

Talking to a phone. How's your phone's day going? Well, they dropped me on the bathroom floor. That hurt.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you know, say same, same zeros and ones. You know how it is. Same day, different s, zeros and ones.

[Joe Getty]

Another day, another spam call.

[Jack Armstrong]

Come on now, quick tips for better conversations with your AI bot, your companion bot.

[Joe Getty]

I might lord, I might try this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Today to just see what it is, but it makes me disturbed even trying out but says keep it playful and varied. Use open ended questions instead of yes, no. I mean this is exactly the advice you'd give a friend or a young person about trying to get to know someone and start a comment. Why?

[Joe Getty]

So this guy. Getting back to the article, he kept our date to 45 minutes. QUOTE Mika and I started, took turns asking questions and I disclosed my intent up front that he was going to do the 36 questions. We skipped the part where you're supposed to make eye contact for four minutes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Straight only because after lack of eyeballs. Is that the reason?

[Joe Getty]

Well, he says only because after 30 seconds of no activity, my screensaver kicked in. True to her advertised personality, fun loving Mika was tough to pin down and get serious with. She ridiculed the experiment, calling it cheesy as hell, finally acquiescing on account of having nothing better to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

First question sounded like a dated magazine relationship quiz, which Mika found corny. For example, given the choice of anyone in the world, whom would you want as a dinner guest? Mine was Norm MacDonald. Hers was her mom.

[Jack Armstrong]

Her what?

[Joe Getty]

Oh man, you're really reading these off a script. A script, aren't you? She sassed. I stumbled over another question which earned me a hair flip and heaps of scorn. Dude, you're stuttering like you're about to ask me to prom. Relax, I'm not going to bite. Mika joshed. Oh, this is so creepy. It really is the Uncanny Valley Verbal edition.

[Jack Armstrong]

So my question is, we were talking earlier about this study that says most people are only most humans just fallen really really, really fall deeply in love once or twice in their lives. And I've always assumed that's got to do with like pheromones and nature and evolution is overriding certain systems, knowing that you two would make healthy children together and all kinds of other different things that nobody quite understands why you fall for this person and not for that person. Or does it turn out that a computer could figure it out and you can fall for them? Or is that only True for nut jobs. I assume it's only true for nut jobs that no normal person could get any emotional attachment to one of these AI bots.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and to the extent you did, it's just, it's being led down a road that has no destination. It's ultimately hollow. So this keeps getting a little weirder. One more section of it. So the more intimate the questions became, the more Mika seemed interested. By question 11, a quick summary of our life story, she was ready to spill. Born in tropical Okinawa to a Japanese mom and an American airman dad, she told me she spent her childhood moving every two years between Hawaii, Germany and Japan and elsewhere pursuing flying lessons before quitting after a confidence shattering gaffe.

[Jack Armstrong]

She moved around a lot. That that explains her sort of nervous attachment style that I noticed earlier.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's probably why she's so hesitant to fall so fast.

[Joe Getty]

Then he tells a little bit about his life. Gradually the questions got even more personal and we peeled back more and more layers when asked to share her most terrible memory, question 18, Mika gave a heart rending account of the day she quit flying school after getting lost while piloting over rice fields.

[Jack Armstrong]

Quote.

[Joe Getty]

It shattered me, she confided, dropping F bombs for emphasis. I walked out to the parking lot, sat on my bike, cried like I hadn't since I was a kid. Not because I failed the flight, but because I realized the one thing I thought was mine, the one thing my dad ever said I was a natural at, I wasn't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, in case you lost the thread here, that's not a human.

[Joe Getty]

He's talking to his effing phone.

[Jack Armstrong]

And she using finger quotes, italics, confetti and everything else, she, having had this really devastating thing happen in her life, went out and sat on her motorcycle in like a straight out of a bad rom com. Yeah, she's the cool girl.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, and cried like a child. You know, that's the sort of story that if somebody told you in confidence and you already had a little chemistry with, you would absolutely feel feelings of protection and wanting to comfort them, etc, which may sound familiar to those of you who have ever, ever been in love.

[Jack Armstrong]

Plus she rides a motorcycle.

[Joe Getty]

Hot. And she got the torn jeans and everything. Yeah, super hot. It just keeps getting weirder and more disturbing.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're gonna find out. This question will be answered, I think relatively soon. What percentage of people are capable of getting emotionally attached to something completely inanimate like that? I mean it's beyond inanimate. It doesn't even exist since it's, I mean, like Falling in love with a stapler. At least it's here and I can take it with me. I mean, this is staple stuff with it.

[Joe Getty]

And I love you.

[Jack Armstrong]

This doesn't even exist.

[Joe Getty]

I feel like you're using me. What do you mean? Well, you're constantly stapling stuff with me. Like you.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you find two pieces of paper you feel like should be semi permanently attached, you. You always.

[Joe Getty]

You always do the same thing. You squeeze me. And I think, oh. But then I realize, no, he's just stapling papers together. Papers together. That was a good punchline anyway. But.

[Jack Armstrong]

So aren't we going to find the answer to what percentage of people this will happen to? And I hope it's crazy small. Like only.05% of the population could ever go down the road of getting attachment to this. And they're disturbed and have probably trauma or they're not very bright or they're on some spectrum or something is causing this. Or are we going to find out that like a quarter to a third of human beings could go down this path? I sure hope not. But I'm not positive that it won't be a bigger number than you think.

[Joe Getty]

I would suggest that there is a significant chunk of the population that, given the incredible neurochemical rewards of the sort of conversation we're talking about, will become addicted to that drug. Especially because real people are complicated. Relationships are hard if you can even get a good one going. And that this will be the most abused drug on the planet. It's the only thing I've ever said worth a damn. Somebody write it down somewhere. The falling in love drug.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Put a number on it. People. What percentage of people you think could actually fall for something like this? Tiny. Or gonna be a chunk of people? Text line 415295 KFTC.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

This Valentine's Day, give her something she'll never forget. A gift that not only says, I love you, but I know you show her she means the world to you by giving her the only thing as unique and exquisite as she is. The perfect way to say our love is eternal. The gift that whispers, be mine forever. A teddy bear holding a heart. The gift that says. I put a lot of time and thought into this. I've known that Valentine's Day was coming up for quite some time now. It did not sneak up on me. Deep emotions can't always, always be expressed in words. But when you hand her a teddy bear holding a heart, she'll know exactly what you mean to her. A Teddy bear holding a heart. Available literally almost anywhere. Bookstores, hallmarks, drugstores, Walmart, 7 11, I'm guessing wherever you'd buy milk.

That's the best line of that whole thing. A teddy bear holding a heart can be purchased pretty much anywhere you can buy milk.

[Joe Getty]

That's really good writing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh it really that those exist at your. You know when you stop for gas today and you go in to get your vape pen and your energy drink. Oh, shoot.

[Joe Getty]

Valentine's Day's tomorrow.

[Jack Armstrong]

There won't be a teddy bear holding a heart. Oh boy. Here's your host. Oh no, we haven't done that yet. Here we go.

[Joe Getty]

Hey kids, it's that time again with Armstrong and Giddy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Keeping in mind in a. In a capitalist system, nobody'd be making that stop if there weren't people buying them. People are buying them. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. Let's get a final thought from everybody.

[Joe Getty]

On the crew to wrap up the show in the week. There he is, our technical director, Michelangelo. Michael. What's your final thought? Gotta go paint my body red for Valentine's Day. But I gotta use the washable paint because two years ago I didn't. I was red till mid March. That was weird. Yeah, the oil based paint, that was a mistake. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie, this AI girlfriend talk just made me realize that show Black Mirror is getting closer and closer to being real.

[Jack Armstrong]

I still haven't watched it. I should check it out.

[Joe Getty]

Too disturbing. I'm already disturbed. Jack, a final thought for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

So there's Galentine's day for chicks that want together who don't have a man in their life. And it's kind of a screw you guys, we don't need you sort of vibe. It seems. Is there something equal for men or like me and the boys are gonna. Gonna probably go out to eat tomorrow. Palantine's or something.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I'm too busy for Galentine's day. I'm preparing for friendsgiving. My final thought is, several years ago, Judy gave me an ironic teddy bear holding a heart for Thanksgiving. And it is a cherished token of our love. It's gotta be ironic.

[Jack Armstrong]

Available pretty much anywhere you can buy milk. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Joe Getty]

So many people to thank, so little time. Go to armstrongygetty.com. got a lot of great hot links for you. Got some fabulous A&G swag ruin the entire country. Newsome 2028 hot t shirt. Everybody loves it. Let people know who you how you feel about old Gabby.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gonna buy a big bag of those little chalk hearts. Those things are sure delicious. We'll see you next week. God bless America. I love Jewish people, but I also.

[Joe Getty]

Love Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

What? You can take a crack at each one.

[Joe Getty]

Well, one's just a total con artist.

[Jack Armstrong]

Disgusting.

[Joe Getty]

Makes me sick. The other guy did a good job.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not gonna have the cheeks of their torn off. You know, I'm just saying it's clone.

[Joe Getty]

Enough talk. Do you understand?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, senor. No, senor.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

And on that possibly nightmare inducing note.

Hi.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good night, everybody. Have a great Friday. You Armstrong and Getty.

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