If I Get Another Dog It Won't Be A Sex Hound

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – April 23, 2026

Episode Title: “If I Get Another Dog It Won’t Be A Sex Hound”
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview

In this wide-ranging episode, Armstrong & Getty dig into the hypocrisy and questionable practices of prominent nonprofits, celebrity activism, the culture around “cause” organizations, Russell Brand’s evangelical turn and controversy, the Chinese intellectual property theft crisis, and the accelerating trend of “degree hacking” in higher education. True to style, the hosts mix biting humor with cultural criticism, challenging assumptions while riffing on everything from Earth Day to fast-track online degrees.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) — From Good Cause to “Racket”

[02:30] – [04:49]

• SPLC Satire: The show opens with a satirical ad, lampooning the SPLC as an organization more interested in fundraising than fighting actual racism.
• The hosts accuse the SPLC of exaggerating hate group numbers to keep donations rolling in.
• Notable Quote:
  • “They have $800 million in the bank. 800 million. It’s an enormous scam. The only way they can keep it going is to convince the soft heads of America there are white supremacists running wild in the streets. And if they can’t find any, they hire some.” — Jack Armstrong (03:09)
• Inclusion of groups like "Moms who Don't Want Boys in Girls Sports" and "pregnancy crisis centers that don't push abortion" on SPLC lists is called “absurd.”
• Memorable Exchange:
  • Joe Getty: "Every cause turns into a business and ends up a racket.” (04:24)
  • Jack Armstrong: “Plus, you’ve pointed out…every organization moves left as it goes through time unless they’re explicitly designed to be conservative.” (04:38)

2. Nonprofits and Political Figures: Jennifer Siebel Newsom & Earth Day Hypocrisy

[05:04] – [13:04]

• Nonprofit as Lucrative Gigs: Discussion on how well-known people use nonprofits for personal gain—salaries, perks, blurred lines between advocacy and personal enrichment.
• Critique of Jennifer Siebel Newsom:
  • Her Earth Day message draws ridicule for its tone, the use of Spanish (“Felicia de la Tierra”), and for touting her family’s estate by the river as an example of living close to nature.
  • The hosts point out the privilege of raising kids in a $9 million mansion, questioning the “relatability” of her messaging.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Jack Armstrong: “If I’d known selling Marxism to schoolchildren were that profitable, I’d be able to afford your house too.” (09:32)
  • Joe Getty: “Should have gotten into public service, I guess.” (09:18)
• Satire: They joke about making the Earth Day video more realistic, referencing trash, needles, and homeless camps near rivers in California cities.
  • “Hi, I'm Jennifer Siebel Newsom. My kids love nature because we decided to buy a five million dollar house overlooking the river. Here’s some nature happening right behind me. These two meth heads are fornicating.” — Jack Armstrong (12:26)

3. Russell Brand, Confession Culture & Media Grifting

[16:05] – [21:02]

• Brand’s Confessional Tour: Russell Brand’s recent pivot from “sex hound” standup to born-again advocate is both dissected and met with skepticism.
• Hosts challenge his media journey—publicly confessing to relationships with young women (legal in the UK but controversial)—as part of a calculated redemption arc to profit from conservative media audiences.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Joe Getty: “That’s a heck of a thing to put out there to promote your new book. Although he’s trying to go for a whole, you know, ‘I have sinned’ redemption thing, which if he’s sincere can be great.” (17:12)
  • Jack Armstrong: “Gotta confess your sins. Right.” (17:30)
  • Joe Getty: “What he wants is to be able to be a big deal in the Tucker world and make lots of money on that.” (20:01)
• On Power Dynamics: The hosts are critical of the current fascination with “power differential” as an inherent problem in relationships, knocking it as overblown and subjective.

4. China’s Ongoing Intellectual Property Theft

[23:57] – [27:41]

• Scope of the Problem: Reports indicate $400–600 billion per year lost to Chinese intellectual property theft.
• Senate Hearings & Political Responses:
  • Clips from senators and analysts on China’s strategy of copying American innovation and institutionalized theft.
  • “When America spends decades innovating, but China copies us in years and steals from it, that is not competition. It is being a parasite.” — Ted Cruz (25:10)
• Comments on U.S. Weaknesses: A sense of resignation and frustration about the lack of forceful response or effective sanctions.
  • Joe Getty: “You either can stop them or you can’t.” (26:17)
• China’s Internal Woes: Armstrong is intrigued by China’s demographic and economic problems, expressing uncertainty about where the rivalry will lead but wary of a “now or never” mindset in Beijing.

5. The Rise of “Degree Hacking” and the Decline of Traditional College Value

[28:18] – [36:10]

• Speed Run Degrees: An exposé in the Washington Post details students finishing four-year online degrees in weeks or months—sometimes as few as eight weeks.
  • Getty: “Of the 300 students who earned a bachelor’s from the University of Maine last year, the majority finished in less than a year. …A quarter…did it in an eight week session.” (29:38–30:25)
• Hosts’ Take:
  • Armstrong sees the trend as a welcome hack; Getty agrees, arguing the “college experience” is more costly lifestyle than a true mark of learning.
  • They question the value of in-person college versus online acceleration, noting massive, accredited schools like Western Governors University are leading the trend.
• Memorable Moments:
  • Armstrong jokes about getting a law degree online just to one-up his own daughter.
  • Getty on what parents are often really buying: “How much of it at this point is parents who … are willing to pay gobs of money for the college experience?”
• On Self-Education: Both hosts express confidence in self-driven learning via YouTube and AI-generated curriculums, doubting the true rigor of most degrees.
  • “I could ask Claude design for me a curriculum that will leave me as grounded in the history and philosophy of Western civilization as if I’d gotten a degree in Western CIV.” — Jack Armstrong (35:37)

6. AI “Hallucinations” and Legal Practice

[39:41] – [41:22]

• AI-Generated Errors: A major Wall Street law firm is caught submitting court filings with fictitious AI-generated citations—“hallucinations”—prompting embarrassment.
• Questioning Oversight: Both are astonished such a prominent firm doesn’t have more robust verification, calling it “ludicrous.”
• Legal Career Tracks: Briefly discuss the various legal career pathways, with Armstrong humorously dismissing the idea of doing “good for the world” as a lawyer.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Every cause turns into a business and ends up a racket.” — Joe Getty (04:24)
• “If I’d known selling Marxism to schoolchildren were that profitable, I’d be able to afford your house too. Damn it. Damn me for my lack of imagination.” — Jack Armstrong (09:32)
• “Why do so many people who get in government get so flipping rich? Why isn’t there more attention paid to that?” — Joe Getty (09:43)
• “I think what he wants is to be able to be a big deal in the Tucker world and make lots of money on that.” — Joe Getty on Russell Brand (20:01)
• “That’s such an indictment of modern college.” — Jack Armstrong on online speed-run degrees (36:10)
• “I could ask Claude design for me a curriculum that will leave me as grounded in the history and philosophy of Western civilization as if I’d gotten a degree in Western CIV.” — Jack Armstrong (35:37)
• “A hallucination.” — Joe Getty on AI filing fake law citations (39:59)
• “Tune in tomorrow. Don’t you forget it.” — Joe Getty (42:34)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• SPLC & Nonprofit Critique: 02:30–06:00
• Siebel Newsom & Earth Day Satire: 06:22–13:22
• Russell Brand “Redemption” Media Tour: 16:05–21:02
• China & IP Theft, U.S. Response: 23:57–27:41
• “Degree Hacking” in College: 28:18–36:10
• AI Mistakes in Legal Work: 39:41–41:22

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Tone & Style

The hosts blend skepticism with sharp-edged, irreverent humor. Reminiscent of talk radio but with podcast latitude, Armstrong & Getty frequently punctuate debate with satire and farcical hypotheticals (e.g., revised Earth Day videos, “sex hounds,” mock AI law degrees). They challenge shibboleths on both sides of the political divide but especially enjoy skewering progressive institutions, the self-regard of the rich, and bureaucratic absurdities.

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Final Thoughts

The episode closes with the crew’s tongue-in-cheek takes: joking about getting quick law degrees for showmanship, the tradeoffs of being a “real parent,” and reiterating their critiques of nonprofit grifts. A parody outro track (“Welcome to the Golden State”) keeps the spirit mocking and self-aware.

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Useful For:
If you haven’t listened, this summary arms you with the episode’s core debates: nonprofit corruption, elite hypocrisy, the coming irrelevance of degree gatekeeping, and America’s struggle with China’s rise. And, of course, the signature Armstrong & Getty style: a relentless, humorous challenge to whatever is presented as common sense.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Stephen McLaughlin]

Hi, I'm Stephen McLaughlin with the Southern Poverty Law Center. Every day, hundreds of racists want to spread hate in their communities. But they are an increasingly marginalized group. Without funding, they are often unable to continue their important work, the work of being racist. Call today and we'll send you a picture of a racist in prison. Sending can only make parole with your money. Remember, without the Southern Poverty Law center, racism might disappear forever. And that would be bad for the

[Joe Getty]

Southern Poverty Law center, who got funding racism so that they could complain about

[Jack Armstrong]

it, it would seem, and then raise scads of money. They have $800 million in the bank. 800 million. It's an enormous scam the only way they can keep it going is to convince the soft heads of America they're white supremacists running wild in the streets. And if they can't find any, they hire some. Oh, boy.

[Joe Getty]

And we talked about that in hour one or two. Get the podcast, I think. Great piece in the National Review about it. That's something. I hope that at the very least the Southern Poverty Law center will no longer be taken seriously when they come out with their latest report. White supremacy is now the number one threat to America. You know, that sort of crap. And everybody treated it like, well, they're a nonpartisan organization just trying to find the truth.

[Jack Armstrong]

And including hate groups like Moms who Don't Want Boys in Girls Sports and and you know, pregnancy crisis centers that don't push you toward abortion. Angry right wing extremists.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Or if you want to remove pornographic books from your public library.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly.

[Joe Getty]

What is that saying you've been using lately about things start as a good cause and end up a racket? Because that does seem to be true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Every cause turns into a business and ends up a racket.

[Joe Getty]

That does seem to be the way they work.

[Jack Armstrong]

Plus, you've pointed out, and I can't remember who originally came up with this thought, that every organization moves left as it goes through time unless they're explicitly

[Joe Getty]

designed to be conservative.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

If you just like start out as a, we're trying to solve this problem, they always end up moving left. And you can, you know, come up with lots of examples in your mind of that too. Not exactly sure why that is.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think it's that left politics tends to support activist organizations and funnel the money.

[Joe Getty]

And the most misunderstood term in maybe in all of politics or organizations is non profit. There should be way more education on what the term nonprofit can mean. It doesn't always mean, but a lot of times it means. Sure, you know, we're about to play a clip from Jennifer Newsom, Gavin Newsom's wife. She runs a nonprofit that probably the nonprofit organization gives her a car to drive and puts her up in hotels and pays for her travel when she

[Jack Armstrong]

goes, gives speeches and gives her a lavish salary. You and I could form a non profit today. We would each have a salary of $850,000 a year and we would not show a profit. And we would be lauded as running a nonprofit while we're getting freaking rich.

[Joe Getty]

Well, when you drive the nonprofit's car so you don't have to pay for a car out of your own money, which is part of Your salary. Yeah, it's so obvious, but people get away with it a lot. Anyway, here is Jennifer Newsom yesterday. Gavin Newsom's wife. She's standing like, on the bank of a river there. Beautiful, beautiful scenery. And she wanted to acknowledge Earth Day.

[Jennifer Siebel Newsom]

Good morning and happy Earth Day. Felicia de la Tierra. Why today we reflect on our shared home something so meaningful and yet so often taken for granted and increasingly fragile. Earth Day reminds us not only to celebrate this land, but to protect California's unparalleled natural beauty, rich cultural and historical resources.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, so why the Spanish there?

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm stuck on the fact that she was posed near a river. And I'm sure they had to, you know, frame the shot so that the junkie camps where people are taking craps in the river, throwing trash all over the parkland and dropping needles in the parks, weren't visible, but, you know.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, we gotta stop. Sorry. We gotta start over. There's somebody taking a crap over your left shoulder.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey. Hey, you junkie boy. Pull up your pants and go. Shut up.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but anyway, this is the part that I liked. Keep in mind that while she's talking about how much her kids love the outdoors and everything like that, because they grew up near the river, they live on a $9 million estate. Yeah, I'm sure your kids do love it. Here you go.

[Jennifer Siebel Newsom]

The Golden State encompasses landscapes that deserve to be experienced and preserved for generations to come. For me, these places have always been deeply personal. As a girl, nature was my sanctuary, helping me to heal from a horrific accident. And now it's also a sanctuary for the governors and my kids. It's why we made a home near the American river, so our kids could experience the healing power of the outdoors.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that was the seven. Several million dollar estate that was mysteriously bought by an LLC with ties to the governor and. No. And they never paid anything for it. Then it was sold at a huge profit. And. Yeah, very odd, I think, for the grace of God. Right?

[Joe Getty]

This. This publication that I'm looking at right here says it's $9.2 million. I don't know, but if it's even.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, that's the new spread, Marin. I think.

[Joe Getty]

But. So, first of all, the tragedy. That's when she ran over her sister with a golf cart and killed her. Which is. Is a tragedy and could happen in any family and whatever, but weird. Just kind of tossing that out as nature helped her here from. Okay, so that's why we're honoring Earth Day. Anywho. Yeah, Everybody's kids Would love to grow up on that place that you just described and everything. I mean, so because we wanted our kids to love nature, we had them grow up on a giant, beautiful, gazillion

[Jack Armstrong]

dollar piece of property overlooking the American River. Yeah, I've priced those houses.

[Joe Getty]

We, we'd all like that. It's not like we didn't because it hadn't occurred to us that, geez, our kids might really like this. We just didn't. We just made the mistake of not getting into public service so we don't have enough money to afford it. Should have gotten into public service, I guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. If I'd known selling Marxism to school children were that profitable, I'd be able to afford your house too. Damn it. Damn me for my lack of imagination.

[Joe Getty]

Another thing. So two things that we are really ought to work on as a populace to, to understand what it means, the term non profit. And why do so many people who get in government get so flipping rich? Why isn't there more attention paid to that?

[Jennifer Siebel Newsom]

That's a great question.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you started living, was born with. With a giant silver serving spoon in his mouth. So he, you know, he, he was always going to be rich.

[Joe Getty]

And according to him, he had this stacked white bread. Huh. You know what I'm talking about? No, I don't know what you're talking about.

[Jack Armstrong]

We have no idea.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Jack Armstrong]

But yeah, the baloney and the baloney and the white bread. What?

[Joe Getty]

And particularly from the left since they hate the rich so much. And anybody who is rich has by definition done something awful. What? They live on a nine million dollar estate. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bought through mysterious means. Very Bidenesque. Hey, Jennifer Newsom, stop teaching confused young girls to have their healthy breasts removed. Could you do me that favor, sweetheart? You're a monster. Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

The Spanish bothers me. Always does. But I should get used to it.

[Jennifer Siebel Newsom]

Good morning and happy Earth Day. Felicia de la Tierra.

[Joe Getty]

Her tone is like it's straight out of Fred Armisen's Portlandia.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Or she's in like some Caddyshack level movie where they're.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Yes, yes, exactly. Yes. We want broad over the top, sanctimonious, rich broad. And she's got. Nailed it. She could be in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good take, good take. But can you sound more pleased with yourself? Take two.

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[Jennifer Siebel Newsom]

Felicia de la Tierra.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's good. That's a keeper.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Katie before we take a break, if she is actually like this all the

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time, I am going to give Gavin

[Joe Getty]

a little bit of a break. If he's actually using drugs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. If he is on drugs. I get it.

[Joe Getty]

Now we're gonna have to do another take. Those pit bulls are fighting over your left shoulder. You gotta got a guy crapping over your right shoulder. And you got pit bulls fighting over your left shoulder. This is not what we're going for here. That's pretty funny. Somebody ought to restage that with an actress on a different part of the American river where it's just trash intense and people standing around leaning up against trees high.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hi, I'm Jennifer Siebel Newsom. My kids love nature because we decided to buy a five million dollar house overlooking the river. Here's some nature happening right behind me. These two meth heads are fornicating. Yeah. What could be more natural for Nicoto?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God. That's funny. Somebody gotta say what? That tone. She's got that tone. Like I just said something in Spanish. Did you realize that? So I can speak Spanish.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm smarter and prettier than everyone. So what I'm about to tell you is very important.

[Jennifer Siebel Newsom]

Good morning and happy Earth Day, Felicia de la Tierra Matiera.

[Joe Getty]

Because I can speak Spanish, as I just showed you.

[Jack Armstrong]

So it's funny. I can't pull that off. I can do like a lot of different voices and accents. I think you have to be that pleased with yourself.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. I gotta work on that.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's funny. Okay, we got more on the way. Stay here.

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[Joe Getty]

for Turns 1 of the interesting things about comedian Russell Brand is I've never heard him say anything funny, so I don't know if you are by definition a comedian at that point. Anywho, he's become pretty popular in conservative circles over the last several years. He was, I know, an alcoholic or drug addict and a

[Jack Armstrong]

sex addict, sex

[Joe Getty]

hound and all that sort of stuff. And now he's become very religious and he's on Tucker Carlson's show and stuff like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

And boy, if I ever get another dog, it won't be a sex hound. I just bad dog.

[Joe Getty]

So here's Russell Brand's admission that I think is a hook for his new book that he's got out, which he wants to apologize for his previous lifestyle

[Podcast Host]

in Europe and in the United Kingdom where I'm from, the age of consent is 16 and I did sleep with a 16 year old when I was 30, but when I was 30 I was a very different person. I was a lot younger and I was an immature 30 year old so

[Joe Getty]

it was legal where he was at the time. That's a heck of a thing. 16 is a very young. That's a heck of a thing to put out there to promote your new book. Although he's trying to go for a whole, you know, I have sinned redemption thing, which if he's sincere can be great.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gotta confess your sins. Right.

[Joe Getty]

Although I saw him on Tucker the other day and he's all kinds of. All the stuff that Tucker Carlson is about. The Jews are running the world and oh my God, et cetera. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And he's on with Megyn Kelly. These cliffs actually are from her day. She's way down that hateful grifter road.

[Joe Getty]

It's interesting. Tucker and Candace are Persona non grata for most mainstream anybody, but not Megan Kelly. I love Mark Halpern, love Rich Rowry of the National Review. They both go on her show weekly. And I'm surprised by that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Megyn Kelly is very, very canny about going full on extremist on like her stuff. And it's like the, the woke crowd has gotten pretty skilled at. But then when they get on like a moderate outlet, they moderate and they come off as very reasonable in my opinion. And my opinion is correct.

[Podcast Host]

But there's more consensual sex actually with a variety of people when there is a strong power differential as there is when you're a famous man that has the ability to attract women that I had at that time, I think involves exploitation. I think it is exploitative. I recognize that my sexual conduct in the past was selfish and I didn't, I did not apply enough consideration, barely any, I suppose, really, to how that sex was affecting other people.

[Joe Getty]

I don't really buy the whole power dynamic thing and I don't like it. Once you go down that road, where are you going to draw the line on whichever direction the power flows on, whatever it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well. And I've known plenty of women through the decades who were like, yeah, sleep with a famous rock star or have sex with them cheap and meaningless. So I could say I did. All right, I'm in.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. It's up to you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Live however you want.

[Joe Getty]

Power dynamic. The power could be lots of things. Your position in the company, your wealth, your looks, your popularity, your personality, your. All kinds of different things. So on both sides, all right, you have.

[Jack Armstrong]

And sexy. You have sexual power.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Particularly women.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So I don't know that whole thing, but yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've got to admit, as come to Jesus confessions, when that one left me, I think he's much like his alleged comedy.

[Joe Getty]

I think what he wants is to be able to be a big deal in the Tucker world and make lots of money on that. And he's got this dragging him down. So I think he's trying to get this cleared up. I'm a new person now and now I'm with you. I'm the. The Jews run the world and blah, blah, blah, all that stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Plus there's the. There's the appeal of the redeemed sinner or the fervor of the converted. Yeah, I came over to your side. It's why every Republican who disavows Trump has full time employment on NBC or msnbc. We love people who come over to our side. But, yeah, everybody's a grifter and everybody is a grifter.

[Joe Getty]

Russell Brand, who was married to Katy Perry, who is now being accused of rubbing her vajayjay on somebod. And some woman, I think, Good Lord. Who worked for her, who's charging, suing

[Jack Armstrong]

her, claiming, now that's an allegation. Oh, my God, we're at war with Iran. China's on the march.

[Joe Getty]

AI is going to be worried about

[Jack Armstrong]

whether astronaut Katie Porter has rubbed her genitals on somebody.

[Joe Getty]

Astronaut Katy Perry. They haven't built a rocket to get Katie Porter into space yet.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, sorry.

[Jennifer Siebel Newsom]

Hi, I'm Katy Perry.

[Joe Getty]

There's a headline. Get out of my shop. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Two different women. I apologize.

[Joe Getty]

That's a big difference there, Joe. If you think you're going on a date with Katy Perry and you get

[Jack Armstrong]

there, yeah, good luck on that rocket. Run for your life. Look, here's 50 bucks. Pay for your own dinner. I'm out.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, 50 bucks won't cover that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy, that's unfair. That's unkind. I won't have it.

[Joe Getty]

I've heard that sort of thing from people who show up to the blind dates where it's like, yeah, here's your money, I'm leaving. Okay, we got more on the Armstrong and Getty.

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[News Analyst]

and private sector analysts, the American economy loses between 400 to $600 billion per year to China stealing this intellectual property.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's easy to forget as Americans tend to focus on one story at a time. We've got this giant global rivalry with China going on and the president's due to sit down with Winnie the Fascist in a couple of weeks, right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, coming up in May. And I just saw an article in the Financial Times about how we're accusing them of stealing some of our biggest AI technology.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, they steal everything all the time, as a matter of fact. And that was the subject of the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing yesterday, I think it was. We've got a handful of different clips. They're all more or less related. We'll hit them and comment as necessary. This is Thom Tillis, the North Carolinian. North Carolinian who is leaving office and has been a little anti Trumpy lately. He's a Republican and Dick Durbin, it's

[Joe Getty]

time for the President, the administration and Congress to take action to hold China accountable. China is taking advantage of American chaos during whatever it takes to overtake our position as global leader in innovation.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, Durbin sounds a little drunk there for some reason. Nobody's ever just frank. Everything's got to be about making a point about the Trump administration, part about global chaos and the rest of it. I am intrigued, though, that Trump, who was in fact, one of the, one of the things I praised him most for in term number one, was that he was absolutely the standard bearer of, hey, the Chinese are not our buddies. They're not liberalizing. They're a threat and a foe. But he's gone very soft on China. Might be three to seven dimensional chess, but it's bothered me a little bit anyway. The always dependable Ted Cruz. China didn't need to solve the physics problems from scratch. It just needed to steal the answer. When America spends decades innovating, but China copies us in years and steals from it, that is not competition. It is being a parasite. Okay, I'm sure that hurts Xi Jinping's feelings.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. You either can, either can stop them or you can't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's go with Alex Hogan of Fox News talking about some prominent examples.

[News Analyst]

The hearing highlighted cases of stolen intellectual property or attempted theft. Like, earlier this year, a federal jury in San Francisco convicted a former Google software engineer of stealing more than 2,000 pages of artificial intelligence trade secrets and then attempting to set up his own company in China.

[Jack Armstrong]

Roll on, big mama. Roll on where?

[News Analyst]

Last month, the federal judge in Chicago fined a Chinese telecommunications company $50 million for conspiring to steal technology from Illinois based Motorola.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, America is lousy with Chinese spies, especially our college campuses.

[Joe Getty]

Why can't we stop them from doing this?

[Jack Armstrong]

Any sanction that would be effective would be extremely provocative, I think people would say. One more clip. This is Tom Lyons.

[Joe Getty]

It's energy, it's non carbon based energy. It's communications, it's logistics, it's automotive, it's semiconductors. This is how you mobilize a war.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so we're not dealing with just

[Joe Getty]

a competitive adversary here. We're dealing with somebody who is ensuring that they can win the fight without firing a shot. Oh, boy, I hope all these chickens don't come home to roost one day. And it's all, like, so clear in retrospect.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I would agree. I'm so intrigued by China's incredible internal problems. Demographics and financial stuff as well. It's all a little in the Chinese weeds. But the idea that they'll just continue to grow and be a juggernaut is just not true. Where this ends, nobody knows. And whether that ticking clock causes the commies, the dirty commies, to think, you know, maybe you ought to scale back our whole taking over the world thing, or whether it emboldens Them, they think, hey, it's now or never. Nobody's really sure. Hell of an intriguing question.

[Joe Getty]

So the other day I brought up this Washington Post headline. Students are speeding through their online degrees in weeks. Alarming educators as almost every university in the country has got some sort of online program at this point. It's called degree hacking is what this is. So it's, it's, it's a combination of things. I mean, even at colleges that are trying to be somewhat rigorous, as has been reported now for quite a few years, the average person getting a degree, if you're on campus and going to class and doing all that sort of stuff, there's very little work, there's very little attending class or whatever. And then. So if you do it online, you realize, well, I could get all this done really fast. I don't need to spread this out over two semesters or whatever. I can do this in like two weeks.

[Jack Armstrong]

I realize hack means cleverly doing something these days, like life hack.

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[Jack Armstrong]

But to me, that's admirable.

[Joe Getty]

That's not. Oh no, no, no, no. Wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's admirable.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you're right. Hack has negative connotations. No, this is the smart thing to do. This is what your kids should be doing. Rather than spending four years getting the piece of paper that for some stupid blanking reason, in some cases it's necessary to have to get a job, you can get it in eight weeks.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

They have a couple of different universities they use the example of in this Washington Post article. And these are US universities. University of Maine I think is one of them that got a lot of attention. Purdue something or other, their online programs, but so University of Maine, most online undergraduates. Of the 300 students who earned a bachelor's from the University of Maine last year, the majority finished in less than a year. So the majority got a four year bachelor's in less than a year. More than one and a quarter finished the entire degree. Course load. Course load in a single eight week session.

[Jack Armstrong]

A quarter of them.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, a quarter.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

A quarter of them do it. Did it in an eight week session. The majority do it in less than a year. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

So if I were to put in like reasonable effort, I could probably start in November, fart around through the holidays, then get after it in January, February, March and have a degree.

[Joe Getty]

Absolutely.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, my current life, empty nest, et cetera.

[Joe Getty]

There's this western governor's university. It is one of the largest colleges in the United states. More than 194,000 students and it's got, you know, all the accreditation that you need to be counted. Like other colleges

[Jack Armstrong]

that most of the Western governors are lunatics right now point out. But it's their.

[Joe Getty]

Their website says that students finish their bachelor's degree in an average of 2 1/2 years, but many finish significantly faster than that. And then they quote all these people who say, hey, I got a full time job and a kid. I would never have been able to get a bachelor's degree at a traditional college, but here I was able to get it done in less than a year and then I went and got my master's the next year. Some educators are really concerned about this, that it is devaluing the perception of what a degree is worth. I think for any of us. Yeah, for any of us who've been paying attention, that got devalued a long time ago. I think what's happening here, I don't think this is. What's the way to put this. I don't think this is like taking what was a fairly riggish degree and watering it down by doing it online.

[Jack Armstrong]

No,

[Joe Getty]

it was not very rigorous to start with. These people just decided, why would I spread out eight weeks of work over four years? That's nuts, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's get her done, then get to making a living. Yeah. Again, I admire these people.

[Joe Getty]

That's what's happening.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I so want to get on some sort of online college and get a law degree before my daughter dies. Oh, that would be so funny.

[Joe Getty]

And she graduates from a rigorous school and you can say from one lawyer to another, congratulations.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or I just leave my diploma laying around for her to discover. Dad, what's this?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's my law degree.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's my law degree.

[Joe Getty]

I got it. I got it. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Top 10% of the class. How are you doing?

[Joe Getty]

I. When I'd play golf in between holes while we're waiting for the Forceman front of us, I would jump on and get a class done.

[Jack Armstrong]

Read another paragraph. Oh, boy. Patent law. I'll be damned. Okay. Yeah. Wow. I'm so tempted to do this. But then I think, what, am I going to walk around telling people I have another degree?

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's what I was thinking, walking around my. My town. University of California at Davis, the town I live in. I was walking around the campus this past weekend because it was what they call picnic day anyway. And I was wondering to myself as I walked around how much of it at this point is parents who for whatever reason are willing to pay gods, gobs of Money for the college experience. That is the. You get to hang around with other people your age, you know, hang around at the coffee shop, go to parties at night, stuff like that. If that's what you're paying for more than the degree. Because you could get the degree. I think there's a lot of people, the kid and the parent who thinks, well I don't want to get it done in eight weeks and join the workforce. I want to spread this out over four years of sitting at the coffee shop and going out to eat and all the stuff that comes with being a college kid.

[Jack Armstrong]

I want to wear my pajamas during the daytime for at least three or four years, right? Yes.

[Joe Getty]

So how much of it is that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you combine that, which, that's a chunk of it with, you know, my, my area of society, my social circle considers a college degree absolutely required for respectability. And then the portion of the economy that still, as you described it stupidly insists on a. You might as well get it out of the bottom of a Cheerios Box. College degree to, to be employed, sitting in a cubicle somewhere. Then it all combines people think, you know, overall on the merits.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Go to kid, go to school kid. I'll help you pay for it or pay for it, whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Huh.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, now here's a, here's a question for you. Well, it depends. I guess I was gonna say if you could learn the stuff that theoretically you learn to earn a degree, I would like to know that stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

But do I need the framework of a college?

[Joe Getty]

No, absolutely not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Giving me a piece of paper in exchange for the money I gave him

[Joe Getty]

outside of like, you know, you always. The caveat of specific sciences, like, you know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, real stuff in other words. But I guarantee you, tell me if I'm wrong.

[Joe Getty]

You're not Good stuff for non real stuff. I have learned so much on YouTube videos and websites and stuff like that in the last couple of decades. I mean it's all out there. It's just, it's just up to how curious you are or your. The amount of time you want to put into it, anything you want to freaking learn.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I may do this during the commercial break. I'm certain this is correct. I could ask Claude design for me a curriculum that will leave me as grounded in the history and philosophy of Western civilization as if I'd gotten a degree in Western CIV.

[Joe Getty]

Easy peasy.

[Jack Armstrong]

15 seconds later I'll have the plan and the book list and everything else.

[Joe Getty]

Eight weeks, a quarter of them got their four year bachelor's degree in eight weeks.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's such an indictment of modern college.

[Joe Getty]

He didn't even make it through the whole football season. I didn't get the chance to see how the football team did this year because I've already graduated and left, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. I'll miss you, Jim. John John

[Joe Getty]

I remember my first college girlfriend that first week. And then I had my second college girlfriend the third week and I thought it was love.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I'm doing a lot in the interim. Six weeks? Yes, Michael. In ten weeks, Joe, you could be Dr. Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Dr. Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I would freaking make you all call me doctor, too.

[Joe Getty]

Damn right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just like my hero, Dr. Jill Biden.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, we will finish strong. Next Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

Don't forget to find the the extra thing we do after the show every day we do a little podcast called One More Thing that doesn't air on the radio. And it includes swears if you ever want to hear it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, no. I wish we had time for this story. Tick bites causing highest rate of ER visits in a decade. Try not to get bitten by a tick. But this is a perfect follow up. I'm working on creating an image. A friend of the Armstrong and Getty Show, Dave, sent us a picture of Saul Goodman from Better Call Saul with his sweatshirt from the Law School of American Samoa. And I'm trying to have Grok put my face on that picture, but it is stalled, apparently. Come on, Elon. Or no, I'm sorry, it's chat.

[Podcast Host]

GPT.

[Jack Armstrong]

Come on, Sam. Anyway, how about this story? Sullivan and Cromwell, which is a premier Wall street law firm, has apologized to a federal judge for submitting a court filing with inaccurate citations and errors generated by artificial intelligence.

[Joe Getty]

A hallucination.

[Jack Armstrong]

The head of the firm's global restructuring group. I mean, you're the head of global restructuring for a giant Wall street law firm. You're apologizing because the errors included AI hallucinations, instances in which they make up case citations, misquote the law, or generate non existent legal sources.

[Joe Getty]

I'm surprised they don't have somebody that like verifies everything they get out of chat.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm shocked by it. And another super giant law firm that was involved in the case caught him at it and they wrote, I apologize on behalf of our entire team. I also called Boys Shiller Flexner LLP on Friday to thank them for bringing this matter to our attention and to apologize directly to them as well. Please don't yell at me anymore. The firm told the judge it maintains comprehensive policies and training requirements governing the use of AI tools in legal work. They don't work very well. This is a company with more than 900 lawyers, one of the country's top corporate law firms.

[Joe Getty]

And you can't hire one of them to say, hey, go through all these citations and make sure they're real.

[Jack Armstrong]

Make sure they exist. Yeah, interns or first years or something like that. It got in front of a federal judge and was called out by another super premier firm. How widespread is that?

[Joe Getty]

I don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Seems ludicrous to me.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. I've got a friend who's a lawyer and talking about how long he'd have to be there to make partner and how that whole deal works and the competition. That sounds like something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Yeah. I Talked to my daughter a fair amount about that. The different tracks you can take, you know, there. And there are all sorts of options. And attorneys will be shouting at the radio, you know, fixing errors in what I'm about to say or other alternatives. But, you know, you could be a prosecutor for a while for the government. You won't make very much money, but you'll get some skills as a litigator. Then you go to defense.

[Joe Getty]

At any point, are you going to throw in, like, do something good for the world or your heart?

[Jack Armstrong]

What? What are you talking about? Or you can go big law for a while, get the credentials and then go start your own little boutique firm or go work for a little firm that's more work, life balancing and stuff like that.

[Joe Getty]

Don't most people who stick with being prosecutors do it because they think it's like the right thing to do for the world?

[Jack Armstrong]

In some cases, yeah, I think so. Or you get a really fast car that's good at chasing ambulances, you know. You know, you could sue for that. Sprained my ankle. It doesn't matter. I'll sue for.

[Joe Getty]

You'll get the facts. They're sharp and steady. Tune in tomorrow. Don't you forget it.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, there's your host.

[Joe Getty]

For final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show. Michelangelo, would you be so kind as

[Joe Getty]

to lead us off?

[Jack Armstrong]

I really like the idea, Joe, of you getting a law degree in eight weeks. I think you got to do that for the show. It's just too good. And then just lecture my daughter. You know, if you worked a little harder and then point to it on the way wall, she would murder me. Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman, has a final thought.

[Joe Getty]

Katie, I just tried to do the. Your face on Saul Goodman's photo gave

[Jack Armstrong]

you a weird neck.

[Joe Getty]

So I'm gonna try it again. Yeah, Chad, GPT's messing up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just not working. Jack, final thought for us.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. My biggest failure as a single parent, as I've mentioned many times, is I don't really cook anything. And we doordash a lot. I made one of the two things I know how to make. Last night we sat around and had dinner together. That way always makes me feel like a real parent. And then we'll be back to doordash tonight.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sure it's all right. My final thought. The more I learn, the more I read about it. The Southern Poverty Law center is an amazing cash cow. It's like they own a money printing press. Holy cats. More on that tomorrow.

[Joe Getty]

Paying Ku Klux Klan members to show up to rallies so then you can complain about it and raise money. That's a good gig. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

So many people. Thanks. So little time. Go To Armstrong and getty.com pick up some A G swag, a cool Ang T shirt or hoodie or hat for your favorite. A G fan. Maybe it's you. Helps keep all our fabulous team on the payroll during these difficult times.

[Joe Getty]

We will see tomorrow. God to Bless America. Armstrong and Getty down by the river

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the shore Needles in the park the trash piles up Bums are fornicating in the sun welcome to the Golden State. Welcome to the Golden State, the Golden State.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty Warning.

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