If You Don't Stop Eating That Peach Like That...

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: Episode Summary Title: If You Don't Stop Eating That Peach Like That...
Release Date: July 14, 2025
Hosted By: Armstrong & Getty
Platform: iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction: A Chewy Start

The episode kicks off with a humorous exchange between hosts Jacob Goldstein and Joe Getty, centering around the annoyance of someone eating a peach in a particularly bothersome manner. This light-hearted banter sets the stage for the deeper discussions to follow.

Misophonia Defined

Jacob introduces the main topic of the episode: misophonia—a condition characterized by an intense emotional reaction to specific sounds. He references a recent New York Times article titled "The Moist Mind Virus: Why We Hate Wet Sounds," which delves into the science behind common misophonia triggers like chewing noises and the word "moist."

Jacob Goldstein [06:10]: "Formally, it is now described as a disorder of decreased tolerance to specific sounds or their associated stimuli or cues. These cues, known as triggers, are experienced as unpleasant or distressing and tend to evoke strong negative emotional, physiological, and behavioral responses not seen in most other people."

Personal Experiences with Misophonia

The hosts share their personal encounters with misophonia, making the discussion relatable and engaging.

• Jacob Goldstein recounts his first experience with misophonia at the age of 20, where a girlfriend's friend eating chips and cheese dip triggered an overwhelming rage.

  Jacob Goldstein [07:06]: "It was just... I had this boiling rage that just started to grow. And even in myself, I was even like, why am I so mad? I mean, I want to kill. I could kill her with my bare hands to make her stop being doing that."

• Joe Getty discusses his daughter's struggles with misophonia, highlighting the condition's impact on daily life.

  Joe Getty [05:59]: "My daughter... she works very hard on it, otherwise it would screw up her life."

Triggers and Responses

The conversation delves into the variety of triggers associated with misophonia and the consistent emotional responses they elicit.

• Jacob emphasizes that chewing sounds are the most common triggers, citing a study where 83% of individuals with misophonia identified chewing as their earliest trigger.

  Jacob Goldstein [09:19]: "In one study, 83% of people who identified as having misophonia reported chewing sounds as their earliest trigger."

• They discuss other less common triggers, such as tapping, repetitive sounds, and even specific accents, showcasing the condition's diversity.

  Jacob Goldstein [12:34]: "Southern accents. What?"

Psychological and Social Impacts

The hosts explore the broader psychological effects of misophonia, including feelings of panic and anxiety, and the anticipation of potentially embarrassing oneself when triggered in public.

Jacob Goldstein [16:57]: "The strong negative emotional response is more consistent. No matter which thing it is that sets you off, the reaction is very consistent... panic and anxiety... anticipation and whether they'll be able to handle the situation in public."

Understanding and Empathy

A significant portion of the discussion focuses on fostering empathy and understanding towards those with misophonia. The hosts highlight the importance of recognizing that misophonia is beyond simple annoyance and requires patience from others.

Joe Getty [17:03]: "Interesting how many human quirks have that same aspect to them, that we should be a little more patient with others. Make fewer assumptions about them being bad people."

Social Behavior and Misophonia

The conversation transitions to how misophonia can influence social interactions and perceptions of others' behaviors, such as road rage or being disruptive in public spaces like movie theaters.

Jacob Goldstein [14:40]: "If everybody did this [react as misophonic individuals], the whole thing would fall apart, right?"

Conclusion: Full Circle

The episode wraps up by tying back to the initial peach-eating anecdote, reinforcing the central theme of misophonia and its pervasive impact on individuals' lives.

Joe Getty [17:26]: "I'm glad I'm not triggered by flip flop flops or hard C sounds, but anyway..."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Jacob Goldstein [07:06]: "I could kill her with my bare hands to make her stop being doing that."
• Joe Getty [05:59]: "My daughter... she works very hard on it, otherwise it would screw up her life."
• Jacob Goldstein [09:19]: "In one study, 83% of people who identified as having misophonia reported chewing sounds as their earliest trigger."
• Joe Getty [17:03]: "Interesting how many human quirks have that same aspect to them, that we should be a little more patient with others."

Key Takeaways

• Misophonia is a serious condition affecting a small percentage of the population, characterized by intense reactions to specific sounds.
• Triggers are highly individualized, with common ones including chewing, slurping, and repetitive noises.
• Emotional Responses to triggers are consistent, often involving anger, disgust, panic, and anxiety.
• Empathy and Understanding are crucial for social harmony, as misophonia can significantly impact interpersonal relationships and daily functioning.

This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand provides an insightful and empathetic exploration of misophonia, blending personal anecdotes with scientific insights to shed light on a condition that is often misunderstood.

Transcript

[Jacob Goldstein]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jacob Goldstein]

If you don't stop eating that peach like that. I'm going to kill you. One more thing. Armstrong and Getty. One more thing.

[Joe Getty]

Bunch of peach eaters around here.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Before we get to Misophonia and the latest on. On such a Springsteen kick right now. Really like more than I've ever been in my life. And partially because he released those seven albums a week or so ago. He released seven albums a couple of weeks ago. And I didn't realize this until I started reading about it that these weren't just like, you know, because every artist has like lots of tracks that they recorded or whatever. These were albums that like the whole album was done, mixed, was an album, had cover art, a name, everything. They just didn't get released for whatever reason. Really. Yeah. Like the one I'm really into right now came out and would have come out in 82. So like right between the river and Born in the usa he had a whole nother album ready to go and it just never got released.

[Joe Getty]

This is very, very odd.

[Jacob Goldstein]

And there's something.

[Joe Getty]

He would have bitched about that or.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Something and there's some pretty good music on there. It doesn't really explain it. I watched an interview and he just said all kinds of different reasons, legal or commercial or artistic or whatever. Okay. Anywho. So I'm on a Springsteen kick. More on that later. I try, I'm trying to get past how much, how annoying I find him and enjoy his music again. He is one, an unbelievable songwriter. Two, an unbelievable singer. Just unbelievable.

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Okay, back to misophonia. Do you. I don't remember. Do you have this Katie? Oh, yeah. Bother you big time. We can't all have it, can we? I mean, because it's, it's, it's, it's a, a smaller percentage of people that have it. Do you have it, Michael? I think a little bit, but not, not extreme. I think it's one of those things like ocd. Everybody's got a little bit of it. It's just whether it crosses over into like really annoys your life because everybody's got a little ocd. I do everything on the microwave on an even number. Just have to. But it's like not a big deal. I don't stay up at night wondering if I left the microwave on an odd number like some people do. I would agree.

[Joe Getty]

And everybody's sensitive to annoying noises. But some people, like my daughter, my youngest is just. She works very hard on it, otherwise it would screw up her life.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Mm. New York Times with an article about the whole thing and examining the science behind our hatred of wet stuff, specifically from chew noises to the word moist. But anyway, the moist mind virus. Why we hate wet sounds was the name of the article.

[Joe Getty]

My dog licking. Oh, God sake, stop.

[Jacob Goldstein]

It's funny that one doesn't really bother me. I don't know why God science is.

[Joe Getty]

Need a bigger dog.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Science has been slow to understand misophonium. It took over 20 years for researchers to arrive at a consensus definition of the condition. Formally, it is now described as a disorder of decreased tolerance to specific sounds or their associated stimuli or cues. These cues, known as triggers, I hate the word trigger. Are experienced as unpleasant or distressing and tend to evoke strong negative emotional, physiological. I have that. And behavioral response is not seen in most other people. Like I get a physiological response to some noises. Like I clench and just vibrate with anger, slash, disgust, fight or flight.

[Joe Getty]

Really?

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yeah, it is. The definition is intentionally vague so as to be inclusive. Partly that's because the triggers vary widely and for different people, chewing sounds are canonical. As in like, that's the. The core go to of people who have misophonia is chewing sounds.

[Joe Getty]

Even thinking about chewing sounds is giving me a reaction.

[Jacob Goldstein]

And I've told the story of the first time I ever noticed it in my life. I didn't know what was going on at the time, but the first time I can remember noticing it, I'm 20 years old, got my first serious, serious girlfriend. We're out after the bars closed. We're at this taco place. Her friend is sitting there telling a story while she eats chips and cheese dip. And she's dipping her nacho chips in cheese dip and then, like, licking the cheese and eating it. And in between every other word. And I had this boiling rage that just started to grow. And even in myself, I was even like, why am I so mad? I mean, I want to kill. I could kill her with my bare hands to make her stop being doing that.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jacob Goldstein]

It was just. And it was the first time I ever had it. Where I've gotten in trouble is, I've been in a similar situation.

[Michael]

And I'll say something like, hey, oh.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Is that that good?

[Joe Getty]

You enjoying that?

[Jacob Goldstein]

I kept thinking my head on. Just eat your chips. Jesus Christ.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy, that. That's good. But you're right, though, in your introduction. The peach may be the all time champion because he got the crunch and the chew and the SM sloppy sucking juices.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yes. Yes. My son was eating a peach from our slurping. My son was eating a peach fresh off the tree the other day. And I just. I got to leave the room.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you have to excuse yourself.

[Jacob Goldstein]

He's eating fruit like that. Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jacob Goldstein]

In one study, 83% of people who identified as having misophonia reported chewing sounds as their earliest trigger. It was my first one ever in my life. It's funny that I can name the moment that I realized I had a problem with it. This sometimes gets further broken down into subcategories, which will include, I know one of Joe's favorites. Crunching, lip smacking, teeth sucking, which I've never noticed. Slurping. Slurping. Is that because she was slurping the cheese? That's like my number one. Slurping. Slurping the peach, slurping the cheese, any slurping. That's why I hate soup. I hate soup. I can't be in a room where people are eating soup.

[Joe Getty]

All right, fair enough. I love soups of all sorts. But I sympathize with your pain.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Others are more bothered by nasal sounds or breathing or throat clearing. I don't have that.

[Joe Getty]

I did that to Drew the other day. His nose was whistling and I almost.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Kicked him out of the car personally.

[Joe Getty]

Unstick your nose. Whatever's in there, deal with it. I don't care what it takes.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Thank you.

[Joe Getty]

Finger surgery. Do something.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Not rocket. I don't care.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, I will approve of the snot, rocket. Whatever it takes.

[Jacob Goldstein]

You. This doctor, this scientist said, personally, I think that it should include the specific sound that's made when people knock a piece of peppermint against their teeth. That's theirs. I Don't know that I've ever heard that but and this I know this bothers Joe and this one doesn't bother me at all. A minority get triggered by tapping or repetitive sounds like clicking a pen for whatever reason buys that somebody could click a pen in here all day every day. I would never even notice it. That one does not bother me. There's Michael's doing it now but I know it bothers Joe. Crazy makes Joe.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh man, that's funny. You put me on edge. The other day I was riding with some people who I'm very fond of when one of them was making a loud clicking noise right behind my head as I'm driving the car and I didn't say anything.

[Jacob Goldstein]

What were they clicking? I know the one. The one that makes me might bother me more than slurping. I don't know why. The sound of an earbuds case closing. That click, the snapping of it closed and my. And you know it's a funny thing that people like doing it themselves is soothing somehow I guess people clicking pens on their own or opening and closing the earbud case. My both my kids will do that like with their hands just riding in the car. If I don't. You got to stop that wrong. And open the door. Totally unaware of that and shove you into the ditch and drive off. That's what's going to happen.

[Joe Getty]

Fair. Fair game. Yeah, I, I, I'm completely unaware of that. I've never noticed anybody ever particular sound.

[Jacob Goldstein]

It's so sharp and click, click, click. But it's interesting. A minority are triggered by the tapping and repetitive sounds like that. Triggers can be hyper specific and idiosyncratic. You can go to Reddit and read about people who are triggered by the sound of flip flops. Hard C and K sounds.

[Joe Getty]

Wait a minute.

[Jacob Goldstein]

And Southern accents. What?

[Joe Getty]

Wait, there's too much there. Hard C and K sounds.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

What do you, what do you, what do you call the people's feline pet? A sat. Because you don't want to hear the in cat.

[Jacob Goldstein]

The clicking of your cat in the Carolinas is gonna kill me.

[Joe Getty]

Kiki the cat kicked Kentucky continuous.

[Jacob Goldstein]

God, if I, if I had that and it bothered me as much as like eating a peach. I don't know how I live. I couldn't listen to the news. I couldn't. I. I'd have to live on an island alone.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that'd be a. This was before your time on the show and it made as much of an impression on me as virtually any Correspondence we've ever gotten from a listener. And I've wanted desperately to find the email and follow up with the guy or whatever, but. Jack, I'm sure you remember this, but you know that feeling you get when somebody cuts in line, for instance, that that sense of social offense that somebody's violating the social compact? It's like somebody driving like an a hole. There are a thousand examples of that sort of thing.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

He felt that so intensely every single day. Just every single example of people not being decent people. He was on the verge of suicide all the time because it made him so miserable.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Whoa.

[Joe Getty]

We'd been talking about that feeling of people who violate the social compact. And I've had to work on it because I was like would be road rage guy. Because I would be so angered by people who could have been kind and decent but just didn't because they could.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Get away with it.

[Joe Getty]

I would want to hunt them down.

[Jacob Goldstein]

It's funny, the human mind is so complicated in all this stuff and why we're the way we are. Like driving doesn't bother me at all. But at the movie theater the other night, the people who make noise who talk during a movie. Oh, that. Breaking that social compound to me is just like a capital offense.

[Joe Getty]

That's just being rude. Some people are just stupid behind the wheel.

[Jacob Goldstein]

How could you possibly do that? Talk during the movie? I should kill you. And I do want to rot you in your seat. It's dark. Nobody will even know it was me.

[Joe Getty]

The perfect crime. I do want to interview those people and say. All right, look, no judgment or anything. Don't worry, I'm not going to hit you. I just. I want to know, are you doing that because you're effing road or too effing stupid to understand how effing rude you are?

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Which one is it? Because it is one or the other. You are either utterly unaware, which is astonishing to me, or you don't care, in which case you're Nahole.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Right? I've always gone with or wondered the. You realize if we all did that this whole thing would fall apart, right? Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

It'd be cacophonous in here. Nobody'd hear the movie or the cutting.

[Jacob Goldstein]

In line with. If everybody did this would what? The whole thing would break down, right? So.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it like it looked like door buster day on the day after Thanksgiving. Your Black Friday sale where people are murdering each other over a 70 toaster oven.

[Jacob Goldstein]

I'm glad I'm not triggered by flip flop flops or hard C sounds, but Anyway, the. The. The final paragraph here I thought was really good. The strong negative emotional response is more consistent. No matter which thing it is that sets you off, the reaction is very consistent. For people with misophonia, it almost is always described as either anger or disgust or some combination thereof. The consensus definition also includes irritation and rage. I get actual rage. I hate it. I try to. Like, this is ridiculous. You don't need to be this upset about somebody eating a peach. But I can't control it. Many people report panic and anxiety. Yeah, I need to run from the room. But this seems to be secondary and evaluative. More about anticipation and whether they'll be able to handle the situation in public. That's kind of interesting, I think. Like, am I going to. Am I going to make a fool of myself at some point by going, God dang it, stop eating that beach? You know, I don't want to be that person. If I didn't have misophonia and somebody else was explaining it to me, I would think, you are a picky a hole. Get over it. That is what I would think.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jacob Goldstein]

But because I do have it, I realize I got no control over this.

[Joe Getty]

Interesting how many human quirks have that same aspect to them, that we should be a little more patient with others. Make fewer assumptions about them being bad people.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Oh, yeah, like, I'm an alcoholic and believe that's a thing. But like, people who have gambling problems, I think. Get a grip. Grow up. Don't be stupid.

[Joe Getty]

So whatever. Let's see how long it takes Jack to catch on. Ain't wasting time no more. Slash Melissa. Melissa slash Blue Sky. One way Out. No good. Those are the fabulous cuts from the Allman Brothers classic album, Eat a Peach.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Oh, right. Gotcha. That clever. Very clever.

[Joe Getty]

Tying it back to what we already talked about.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yes. Full circle.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Michael? That's what I was trying to do.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Oh, Michael. You know, for me, it wasn't never a loud noise or anything. It was copyright infringement. Yes. I would run to sports bars. It took over my life. And demand the letter that they sent the NFL. Should you be airing this game? Yes. And it drove me nuts. It took over my life. Well, I guess that's it. This is Jacob Goldstein from what's yous Problem? When you buy business software from lots of vendors, the costs add up and it gets complicated and confusing. Odoo solves this. It's a single company that sells a suite of enterprise apps that handles everything from accounting to inventory to sales. Odoo is all connected on a single platform. In a simple and affordable way, you can save money without missing out on the features you need. Check out [e-mail] that's O D O.

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