If You Outlaw Booty Shaking, Only Outlaws Will Shake Their Booties!

Summary

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Episode: "If You Outlaw Booty Shaking, Only Outlaws Will Shake Their Booties!"

Date: February 3, 2026

Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty deliver their signature blend of sharp commentary and humor as they tackle the week's most peculiar headlines and some serious news. From the absurdity of licensing strippers in Oklahoma to skewering a fawning Vogue profile of Gavin Newsom, the hosts dissect the intersections of pop culture, politics, and policy. They also touch on the deep impacts of AI on public perception and consensus-building, explore voter ID polling, and riff on Super Bowl food traditions. Their irreverent style and willingness to question everything provide both laughs and insights for listeners.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cher at the Grammys and Celebrity Culture

• Cher receives her first Grammy (03:02): The hosts discuss the oddity of Cher receiving a lifetime achievement award after decades without a Grammy win.
  • Jack’s nostalgia: “She might be like my first notice of being heterosexual.” (03:25)
  • Industry commentary: Explores how awards shows try and fail to appeal to all age groups. (04:08)
• On celebrity biographies: Jack questions who is still reading printed celebrity bios—especially a two-volume Cher autobiography. “If you’re gonna read, why, what the hell would you read that?” (04:30)

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2. AI, Social Media Swarms, and Mass Manipulation

• The illusion of consensus: Joe highlights how AI-driven bot swarms create fake consensus online, manipulating opinion, especially among consensus-oriented people.
  • Joe: “These AI systems ... learn from every interaction and convincingly mimic real human conversation ... They create the illusion that ... all happen to share the same view.” (07:44)
• AI use poll results: Jack shares that only 26% say AI has helped them, with most feeling no impact—likely due to lack of interaction or awareness. (06:52)
• Answer Engine Optimization (AEO): The hosts predict that AI tools will soon be as clogged with paid results and “optimization” as Google.
  • Jack: “We’re in this really like, golden era of getting to use these chat bots where they’re not monetizing them, but that’s gonna end any day.” (09:40)
• Favorite AI tools: Joe prefers ChatGPT and Claude for serious tasks, Google Gemini for less important things. (10:50)

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3. Voter ID: Near-Universal Agreement—But Not Policy

• Nicki Minaj chimes in: Jack shares her viral tweet questioning why any modern nation would debate voter ID. (15:16)
• Polling breakdown:
  • Whites: 85% support
  • Hispanics: 82%
  • Blacks: 76%
• Both hosts are bemused that such broad consensus still hasn’t yielded national policy.
  • Jack: “How the hell is it not 50 [states]? ... That’s nuts.” (16:52)
  • Joe: “It’s just another example of the tiny vocal minority bullying everybody into complying because they wave the flag of if you don’t agree with me, you’re a racist.” (17:09)

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4. Licensing Strippers in Oklahoma

• Legislative absurdity: Oklahoma lawmakers propose requiring strippers to be licensed, be citizens or legal residents, and be subject to background checks.
  • Joe’s zinger: “If you outlaw booty shaking, only outlaws will shake their booties.” (18:51)
• Libertarian objection: Jack questions why strippers need special state licensing, suggesting private regulation if any at all. (18:54)
• Supposed purpose: Lawmakers claim it’s about “reducing human trafficking,” but the hosts doubt the effectiveness or necessity.
• Satirical take: “Let me hit a couple more requirements … Well, you can’t have felons up there wagging their parts at you.” (19:01)

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5. Immigration: Going After the Employers

• Kevin Williamson’s perspective: The hosts highlight that real immigration reform would target businesses hiring undocumented workers, not individual migrants. (20:28)
• Joe: “The powers that be on both sides ... have no interest in that.” (21:14)
• Jack: “I actually think we do need to end illegal immigration ... not have this crazy under the table system we've got.” (21:33)
• Playful riff: “Hey baby, looking for a lap dance? Only after you show me your license, young lady.” (21:43)

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6. Vogue’s Fawning Gavin Newsom Profile

• Mocking magazine coverage: Jack and Joe roast Vogue’s gushing profile of Gavin Newsom, with “Annie Leibowitz photos” and text that reads like a teen romance novel.
  • Quote: “He’s embarrassingly handsome, his hair seasoned with silver. At ease with his own eminence. He seems more mournful than angry.” (26:10)
• Jack: The piece “is so over the top... Vogue is still excited about [Kennedy].” (27:22)
• Joe: “She is sexually ready to be taken by Gavin, which is just interesting.” (29:00)
• Public service skepticism: Both hosts roll their eyes at politicians’ claims to be public servants.
  • Jack: “Don’t give me this line of crap that I only want to be president because I’m about serving other people. Come on, come on.” (30:09)
• Remington Steele anecdote: The Vogue piece reveals Newsom emulated the suave TV con man—as Joe jokes, “If Newsom is still that guy, then he’s a suave, perfectly coiffed con man.” (34:15)

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7. Media Bias: Sunday Shows

• Political double standards: The hosts note that shows like “Meet the Press” grill Republicans but let Democrats talk unchallenged.
  • Jack: “When Republicans come on there, they challenge them on every point … When Democrats come on, they just allow them to explain their position.” (35:38)
• Joe: “They don’t see it as bias because they think it’s self-evident to everybody with a soul what the right is and the wrong is.” (36:06)

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8. Miscellaneous & Lighter Moments

• Breaking News: US fighter shoots down an Iranian drone near a Navy ship—raising speculation about provocations with Iran. (24:28)
• Savannah Guthrie’s missing mother: Concern for the Today Show anchor’s 84-year-old mother, missing from her Arizona home under suspicious circumstances. (40:26)
• Super Bowl Food Talk:
  • Michelangelo’s Football Cheese Dip and scoop Fritos earn rave (and hungry) reviews. (42:59)
  • Jack: “You got the Hoover Dam. You got those Fritos. The two highest achievements of American engineering.” (43:30)
  • Joe: “Cornbread may be my favorite food of all time ... maybe if you see the face of God ... it’s better than a nice warm piece of cornbread.” (43:46)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On AI-driven bot swarms:
  Joe Getty (07:44):
  “A single bad actor can now deploy thousands of AI Personas ... They adopt their tone, they learn what resonates with different communities, and they create the illusion that independent people across the Internet all happen to share the same view.”

• On the Oklahoma stripper licensing bill:
  Joe Getty (18:51):
  “If you outlaw booty shaking, only outlaws will shake their booties.”

• On media bias:
  Jack Armstrong (35:38):
  “When Republicans come on there, they challenge them on every point ... When Democrats come on, they just allow them to explain their position.”

• Roasting a Vogue profile:
  Jack Armstrong (26:10, quoting Vogue):
  “‘He’s embarrassingly handsome, his hair seasoned with silver. At ease with his own eminence. He seems more mournful than angry.’”
  Joe Getty (29:00):
  “Oh, she is sexually ready to be taken by Gavin, which is just interesting.”

• On political “public service”:
  Jack Armstrong (30:09):
  “Don’t give me this line of crap that I only want to be president because I’m about serving other people. Come on, come on.”

• On comfort food:
  Joe Getty (43:46):
  “Cornbread may be my favorite food of all time ... maybe if you see the face of God ... it's better than a nice warm piece of cornbread.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Cher at the Grammys / Celebrity awards discussion: 03:02–05:10
• AI, bot swarms, consensus, and AEO: 05:26–11:13
• Voter ID polling and Nicki Minaj commentary: 15:16–17:39
• Oklahoma stripper licensing debate: 18:07–21:43
• Employer-targeted immigration reform: 20:28–21:43
• Gavin Newsom / Vogue profile takedown: 25:05–37:40
• Media bias analysis: 35:00–36:37
• Savannah Guthrie’s missing mother news: 40:26–41:46
• Super Bowl food segment & final thoughts: 42:46–44:17

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Episode Tone & Style

The hosts maintain their trademark irreverence and wit, peppering biting satire amidst analysis of policy and media. Their playful banter, skeptical takes, and pop-culture references make the show both informative and entertaining for listeners whether or not they've kept up with the week's headlines.

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Summary

This episode exemplifies Armstrong & Getty’s approach—cutting through spin with humor, challenging groupthink, and skewering absurdity from celebrity culture to statehouse pandering. Whether opining on the weaponization of AI or the earnestness of cornbread, Jack and Joe keep it both insightful and fun.

Transcript

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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. Here's Armstrong and Getty. Cher mistakenly announced that the late Luther.

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Vandross had won record of the year.

[Joe Getty]

Even more embarrassing, later that night, she had sex with a guy who told.

[Jack Armstrong]

Her he was Sonny Bon.

[Joe Getty]

What?

[Jack Armstrong]

So we never talked about the Cher on the Grammys the other night and it doesn't require a lot of conversation, but she received some sort of lifetime achievement Grammy. She'd never won a Grammy in her career. It was the 68th Grammys. She was nominated for a Grammy at the 8th Grammys 60 years ago.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

How about that? She might be like my first notice of being heterosexual. I mean, that's how. I'm an old person. But she's so old that she was a, you know, hot 23 year old on television when I was a kid.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Jeez.

[Jack Armstrong]

Enough of Cher. Who was that for?

[Joe Getty]

I think it's this weird compensation thing that entertainment industry people do where you've got to be young and sexy. Once you're not young and sexy, nobody cares about you. But when you're really old and kind of harmless, they, they show great affection towards you and tell you how much respect they have for you and everything like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I think it's like you said the other day, and this is stupid. They try to have something for everybody. So they think this three hour broadcast will throw out somebody that the old audience will recognize and they'll watch the show. No, they won't. You're not going to watch a three hour show about music you've never heard of. To see Cher for two minutes and.

[Joe Getty]

A two minute tribute to Ozzy Osbourne.

[Jack Armstrong]

All you do is annoy. The young people in the crowd are like, who the hell is this? Why is she to Roberta Flack, whose grandma is up here? Yeah, exactly. Anyway, well, I mentioned I was at the bookstore the other day and the Cher bio autobiography, is it autobiography or biography? I don't know which. The Cher book about her life was there on the table where they put all the hot books and it said volume one. There's two volumes to the. Share story. Wow, you couldn't get it all fit into one volume. That's a shame. Good for you. And man, people don't read if you're gonna read. Why, what the hell would you read that?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I can't even imagine. It's sad. It makes me sad. So we can't have any illegal immigrants shaking their asses for tips. That story coming up in a moment. Another note about AI, and this is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stands for artificial intelligence.

[Joe Getty]

It does, yes. And it's funny as I. As I look at the outline of this story that I've prepared. We can't deal with current technology without it making us insane as a species.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. See the Epstein files.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Yeah. For instance, and this is all about how AI swarms of bots of social media accounts create the illusion of widespread agreement by coordinating thousands of what appear to be human accounts and human statements and comments and that sort of thing. And then because human beings rely on social cues to form opinions. And I'm not an expert in this by any means, but I'm really intrigued by the question. There are some people who are much more consensus oriented than others. Some are more iconoclastic, you know, your Thomas Jefferson's and your Mark Twain's.

[Jack Armstrong]

That.

[Joe Getty]

Absolutely do not go along with the herd. But some people are really made to do that for whatever reason. But how that synthetic consensus is really affecting people who tend toward consensus thinking. And it's made it really easy to string along huge groups of people just because they see an opinion expressed so much by these bots, they start to think. Everybody thinks that, therefore I should think it, or.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or never breaking out of this. We're doomed. In other words, I. I saw a poll about AI. The question was, so far, has artificial intelligence mostly helped you? Most you harmed you, mostly harmed you or no difference. I would be an absolute mostly helped. Where would you be Same. Yeah, yeah, but that's only 26% of people who say mostly helped with a. I think it's just because it's got to be a lot of people who haven't, like, interacted with it. Like my parents, I don't think they have the app or have ever used it. Mostly harmed is 20, but no difference is the majority at 53%. So most people haven't interacted with AI at all, or they don't know that they have.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'm not surprised. I mean, we're not that far into it. I tell you, I.

[Jack Armstrong]

You download the apps, they're free. Freaking amazing. It's sure better than Googling. I assume you all Google things on a regular basis. Or Wikipedia. It's so much better than Google or Wikipedia.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. So anyway, back to this. Just because I think those of us who are sane need to understand what we're dealing with and they point out that unlike the clunky Russian troll farms that tried to meddle in the 2016 election, we all remember that story. These AI systems work around the clock. They learn from every interaction and convincingly mimic real human conversation. And it's increasing quickly. You got Taiwan, India, Indonesia, the US all dealt with IAI, generated fakes and fake news outlets during the 2024 campaign. According to a paper published in Science by a couple of dozen researchers from some of the top universities, a single bad actor can now deploy thousands of AI Personas that don't just spam the same message. They adopt their tone, they learn what resonates with different communities, and they create the illusion that independent people across the Internet all happen to share the same view. So you can see somebody post something super provocative, then respond to a comment with a, you know, a shading of the idea or a saying, hey, I see your point of view, but here's why. Blah, blah, blah. And it's all these AI bots.

[Jack Armstrong]

24. 7.

[Joe Getty]

They never stop. Sure, yeah. Craziness, craziness. Another point about AI. You're talking about how much better it is than Google companies are learning to. What's the. I'm sorry, I had it handy. The search engine optimization SEO that companies figured out how to show up at the top of the listings. Well, now you just pay Google and they put you up there. But anyway, there are ways to optimize how often you come up. Well, now there is what's being called aeo, as in Answer Engine Optimization people and companies are figuring out how to game the AI system.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't. They get is gonna matter because I was listening to this podcast the other day, I've mentioned several times with these AI experts and they explained. And I'll bet it's true. We're in this really, like, golden era of getting to use these chat bots where they're. They're not monetizing them, but that's gonna end any day. And somebody's good. They're all like, looking at each other. Are you going to. I need to. Do you need to? I need to. But who's gonna be first? Who's gonna be the first to do like Google did and start placing ads or ranking sponsors first or all that different sort of stuff? And it's inevitable because they got to pay for this stuff. I mean, it's got to make money at some point, and it's inevitable. And then once somebody does it, there'll just be a flood of them. So it will be more like what Google does very soon, like next week. I mean, at some point they're all going to jump on the you know we got to list the first 10 paid for results before we get to your stuff.

[Joe Getty]

I'm a big enough fan of two of them in particular. I would pay for them but I can afford to. So you know if the mass market would adopt that or not.

[Jack Armstrong]

I couldn't. Which two do you like best?

[Joe Getty]

ChatGPT and Claude. I find myself using those most. You know it's I use Google Gemini for silly stuff that I don't care if there's a record of and I know I'll never look for again. I use Claude and ChatGPT for stuff that I'm going to consult back to. I try to keep those clean. That's probably silly because I know you can edit your conversations, but that's one more thing to learn how to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who wants to do that?

[Joe Getty]

I do need at some point to pay off the you've got to be carefully vetted before you shake your boobies in front of paying customers at strip club story.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I also want to get to the latest polling around voter id. Nicki Minaj the singer weighed in it on big over the weekend and new polling shows, as it is shown always, that vast majorities of everyone, every race, every age, every party thinks you should have to show an ID to vote. Like everybody thinks of course you would vote.

[Joe Getty]

Harvesting cheaters don't agree yet it still doesn't exist.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's crazy. Among other things we got on the way. Stay here Armstrong and Gettysburg Support for.

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Speaking of Epstein, I don't know where we're going to use it or how we're going to use it, but I came across a interview with Epstein from well before he hung himself. Or did he? Talking about what caused the financial crisis in 2008. Have you seen that? He's doing an interview with Steve Bannon and Bannon says, who do you blame for the 2008 financial belt down? He says, oh, Bill Clinton. And the man says why? And he explains in great detail how the Democrats worked so hard to make sure everybody could buy a house regardless of their credit situation. All the different sorts of things. It was really well done and well laid out for the average person.

[Joe Getty]

Barney Frank.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Epstein, obviously a smart guy when it came to finances.

[Joe Getty]

I remember it well.

[Jack Armstrong]

You wouldn't want him to date your sister, so I don't. This must be being Discussed right now because I saw a tweet over the weekend from Nicki Minaj. I don't follow her, but it bubbled up on my Twitter. She's a singer. Kind of a funny, outrageous singer. But she said on the topic of voter ID, she said, what sensible, 40 forward thinking, cutting edge leading nation is having a debate in all caps on whether or not there should be voter id? Like, they're actually fighting not to have people present ID when voting for leaders? I mean, yeah, I know if you present it to somebody is just like, without the politics. It's like, what? How would you not? But then if you've been following this issue over the many years becomes a thing about, you know, some people are poor and can't get driver's licenses and they're blah, blah, blah.

[Joe Getty]

Minorities are less likely to have a photo id.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's the latest polling on this from pew. By race, 85% of white people think you should show an ID to vote. 82% of Hispanics and 76% of black people.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the lowest group, blacks. It's three quarters.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And yet we don't have it. That might say everything you need to know about the sway that certain crowds and an active, animated crowd can have over things.

[Joe Getty]

I happen to look this up and we don't have it on a national level because the states are in charge of running elections. But 36 states require voters to present identification to vote at the polls.

[Jack Armstrong]

But how the hell is it not 50?

[Joe Getty]

I know, 36 because of what you said.

[Jack Armstrong]

How is it not every single tiny little you meet at the local library in your county voting place make you show your damn id. That's nuts.

[Joe Getty]

You know, like child sex change, mutilation, and, you know, DEI programs, which are just racism and Marxism. It's just another example of the tiny vocal minority bullying everybody into complying because they wave the flag of if you don't agree with me, you're a racist. And so many people back down and say, oh, I don't want you to call me a racist. So, yeah, it's ridiculous. 36 states. There are some exceptions, but when you get into the weeds of the regulations, it's way too long for our purposes.

[Jack Armstrong]

But entertainment breaking news. Paul Simon just announced a new summer tour.

[Joe Getty]

Thought he retired last year.

[Jack Armstrong]

He did. I listened to that whole, I was fraud, I'm suing for fraud. I listened to that entire audio book that he did about his retirement, and it was really, really good. But apparently he's unretired at the age of 106.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's surprising to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Huh? Garfunkel sitting by the phone sobbing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Oh, poor art. So, speaking of entertainment, at least two Oklahoma lawmakers have filed legislation that would require strippers to be licensed by the state before they can perform. For everyone's safety.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Okay, what is there?

[Joe Getty]

Both bills also seek to increase the minimum age to performance strip clubs from 18 to 21. This is the Entertainer Safety and Verification Act, Not a joke.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's their thin reasoning on? We're against almost all of this sort of stuff. If you lean libertarian, almost all of it is is crap in any industry.

[Joe Getty]

Well, if you outlaw booty shaking, only outlaws will shake their booties.

[Jack Armstrong]

And if you do need any sort of this thing, a private company can do it. You don't need the government to be involved.

[Joe Getty]

Let me hit a couple more requirements, then I'll get to their reasoning. Those seeking a stripping license must be a US citizen or legal resident. There you go. E verify for hoochie shakers and have not committed certain felonies according to both measures. Well, you can't have felons up there wagging their parts at you. I mean, what would that say? What about the kids?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, first of all, you'd be getting all turned on and hot and bothered and somebody point out, you know, she hasn't filed taxes four years in a row. Oh, what? That's not sexy.

[Joe Getty]

I feel like I've been cheated here. As well as my government application, applicants must also provide proof of identity, unlike voters in 24 states or whatever it is. I'm sorry, 14 states, including a government issued identification document with a picture. They say these two Republicans in Oklahoma, the measures are needed to reduce human trafficking.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Whether you agree with these places or not, we should all agree. People participating should be doing it of their own free will and not being trafficked from another state or country. Once a person begins working hard, working as a stripper, it's hard to break free.

[Jack Armstrong]

But why did they specifically go with only stripping when there's all kinds of people working all kinds of jobs as illegals and whatnot that you should stop.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, if I'm chopping up chickens in a plant.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I was listening, for instance, the Dispatch podcast yesterday and Kevin Williamson, who is a writer for the Dispatch, I really like his angle on this and I think it's true. You really care about illegal immigration and getting the people out. Go after the companies that hire him. His number was. And I don't know where he came up with it. He thinks like 75% of illegal immigration or the people here would have to leave or figure out a process to become get workers permits because they are working for somebody. And if you went after the people that are hiring them, you wouldn't have ICE agents and masks and shootings and all these different sorts of things. You just make it too damn expensive for somebody who's got a chain of hotels to hire illegals because the fine's too high.

[Joe Getty]

But the the powers that be on both sides of the aisle have no interest in that. Well, that's why you get over and.

[Jack Armstrong]

Over gambling in Casablanca. Well, I guess that's his point. So you got all this mayhem on the streets of Minneapolis when you could solve it by going after the the higher errs if you wanted to.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, mostly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure, I'd like to see that happen. I actually think we do need to end illegal immigration and you know, not not have this crazy under the table system we've got.

[Joe Getty]

Hey baby. Looking for lap dance? Only after you show me your license, young lady. For my safety and yours. Wow. Good they're dealing with that.

[Jack Armstrong]

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So, breaking news. We just shot down an Iranian drone, unmanned Iranian drone that flew at one of our warships, and one of our fighter planes went up and shot it down. Seems like a fairly provocative move by Iran, I guess, testing to see if we're serious or paying attention or something. I don't know what's going on there. Kur bluey and different war. Lindsey Graham just tweeted out. Clearly the pressure we're applying to Putin to come to the peace table is not working. I would say that's true. Maybe the next president will know how to deal with Iran or Russia. Gavin Newsom.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, don't threaten me.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we talked about this yesterday, this Vogue piece that they did for Gavin Newsom, and they got Annie Leibowitz, the famous photographer of movie stars, artists, and Democratic politicians who always makes them look so, so cool for the covers of these various magazines in a way that they would never do for any Republican. And. And this piece in Vogue is embarrassing in its fawning. I mean, I don't know. I don't know how you do something like that and call yourself a journalist, but as you're about to hear this article written by a woman named Meyer, Maya Singer. And the photos by Annie Leibowitz are so over the top. I mean, it's so. The family photo of. They're all Wearing casual clothes on a beautiful hillside as the sun sets. And Gavin's and jeans and a work shirt unbuttoned way too far. And his wife and his kids. And one kid's holding the other kid upside down because they're so wacky. They got the dogs in the picture to just. Oh my. Just a regular family.

[Joe Getty]

All right. They're like us, but beautiful and rich, but like us. Oh, and powerful.

[Jack Armstrong]

And got to go to school during COVID while you couldn't. So this Maya Singer writes, having watched Newsom speak and give a speech, she starts with, let's get this out of the way. He's embarrassingly handsome, his hair seasoned with silver. At ease with his own eminence. He seems more mournful than angry.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry, he's at ease with his own eminence. Wtf does that mean?

[Jack Armstrong]

And how do you write that about? You're covering a politician. All right. He seems more mournful and angry in his speech. Seeming, yes. Presidential. Oh, God. Singer writes that Newsom's sheer magnetism must drive Trump nuts. Newsome is live, ardent, energetic, a glimmer of optimism in his eye. Kennedy esque. Add to that his stunning wife and four adorable kids and the executive strut of a self made millionaire who has spent the past seven years at the helm of a state big, complex, and rich enough to be a nation of its own, completely drowning in debt.

[Joe Getty]

What are you talking about, you simpleton?

[Jack Armstrong]

As Byron York writes in the Washington examiner, kennedy esque. It's been 65 years since John F. Kennedy entered the White House. Vogue is still excited about that. Back in Kennedy's day, that were they gushing over William McKinley and the glories of 1896. Right?

[Joe Getty]

Right. Maybe Ted Kennedy esque.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Kennedy fixation. There's gotta be a pill for that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Singer is thrilled by the thought of Newsom standing up to the big bad President Trump. Quoting from the article, there's a photo that does the online rounds now and then, a shot of the governor on the tarmac at LAX aiming his finger at the president's chest. Bouncer body language like, hey, buddy, not so fast. It has seemed at times this past year that the only thing standing athwart Donald Trump's will to power is Gavin Newsom. This is the puffiest of puff pieces. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[Joe Getty]

Signed, Beto.

[Jack Armstrong]

This, you know. Kidding. This is pat beyond any puff piece I've ever read, though.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, it's declaring him not just the president to be, but a Historically wonderful, cherished president to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it's.

[Joe Getty]

He's lies and ardent. What don't you get?

[Jack Armstrong]

How about his bouncer body language?

[Joe Getty]

Is he stood up to the president here, buddy.

[Jack Armstrong]

She's clearly like fully in love with him.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, she is sexually ready to be taken by Gavin, which is just interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's not only an, you know, an advertisement for Newsom, it's also a little review of his new memoir, Young man in a Hurry. That's the book Gavin Newsom wrote. Singer writes about the book. The book sets him up as someone who fights, someone who dreams big, someone who sweats the details, someone with a desire to serve. As you all know, I am highly turned off by anything that talks about serving in public service. When you're talking about being president, don't give me this line of crap that I only want to be president because I'm about serving other people. Come on, come on. You're doing some boring bureaucratic job. Somewhere you can possibly claim that. I still think you're doing it for the benefits, to have the insurance for the rest of your family. I don't believe you're a public servant, but I've known a hell of a.

[Joe Getty]

Lot of government employees in my life and not a single one of them has said to me, you know, Joe, I could have really made a killing in the press, private sector, but I just, I needed to serve people.

[Jack Armstrong]

But the idea that anybody who runs for president is doing it out of public service. Please.

[Joe Getty]

Hilarious. Or governor of the corrupt state of California.

[Jack Armstrong]

Singer interviewed Newsom at his office in Sacramento. According to Byron York. Apparently it was. He was enchanting. Back to the what she writes. As he spoke, late summer sun slanted in through the windows, bathing Newsome in an oh so California magic hour glow.

[Joe Getty]

You know, this girl has just got to spend a couple of quality minutes with her favorite sexual toy and get, get over, get past this, okay? You're obviously not gonna settle down till you've satisfied yourself, so just get after it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get a room. I'd prepared for this sit down. By consuming the spectacle of Gavin Newsom. Tweets, TV hits, interviews, umpteen episodes of his podcast. This is Gavin Newsom. And was having a hard time taking in the man. His actual molecular reality. Immaculate, fantastic at gab like a wind up doll. His actual molecular reality.

[Joe Getty]

12 year old girls looking at posters of pop stars on their walls. Think this is a little over the top, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Justin Bieber back in the day would have had to say honey setting she gets into. Why he's so amazing. Among other things about his how cool he looks and his fitness.

[Joe Getty]

Earl's screaming at the Beatles, are saying, hey, he's a human being.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sure he has. Calm down.

[Joe Getty]

Right? You're being ridiculous.

[Jack Armstrong]

Every day starts with lemon water and he consumes nothing but fruit until noon. Writes singer. Newsom also has an artistic temperament, whatever the frig that means, and is quite taken when in the book Newsom writes of a semester spent studying art in Rome where he was deeply affected by the frescoes of Giotto from the dawn of the re Renaissance and the intense dark light from the angry hand of Carvaggio. He wasn't. He wasn't a rich kid who got to go over and live in Europe for a year and party. He was deeply affected by the Renaissance art in Rome.

[Joe Getty]

He has an artistic.

[Jack Armstrong]

What did she say? Temperament.

[Joe Getty]

Temperament. There you go. Right? The frescoes affected him very much.

[Jack Armstrong]

Semester spent studying in Rome.

[Joe Getty]

Just have him mount you and have his baby, all right? Just be done with it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, I'm thinking of three different people I know who did the Europe thing during college. And it was a non stop party of drinking and sex. Men and women that I know. Yeah, but you did it just because you got this deep belief in the Renaissance and art or something like that. Well, it's your artistic temperament and your. What was that other thing? Molecular reality. Yes, as I suspected. This part is pretty interesting. For all its love of Newsom, the Vogue piece ends on an oddly ambiguous note. It mentions that in his book, Newsom Discusses loving a 1980s TV show called Remington Steele. Did you ever watch Remington Steele? I didn't. I'm aware of its existence, but I didn't know anything about it. You watched it, Michael?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, long time ago. Pierce Bronson.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pierce Bronson. It kind of. It kind of explains it here and it's interesting. Starring Pierce Brosnan and some other woman. The show was about a female detective who, struggling to be taken seriously, hires a suave con man as her front. Bronson. Brosnan.

[Joe Getty]

Brosnan.

[Jack Armstrong]

Brosnan, playing Remington Steele, was always impeccably turned out. Newsom began emulating him, coughing his hair, wearing a suit to school because of Remington Steele. Wow. In the book, Newsom writes that some of his schoolmates started calling him El Presidente. It also struck me reading Gavin Newsom is still that guy. Byron York writes about that if Newsom is still that guy, then he's a suave, perfectly coiffed con man. Because that's what Remington Steele was. That was the whole point of the show.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Well, and I'd say that shoe, that expensive Italian shoe fits and he should wear it.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then singer finishes with, he's the Zimbabwist character too. Okay. That's the woman playing the female detective, the one who dreamed up the showman in the first place. The one who's doing the work. I don't know what that means.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, so he's both. He's the suave con man looking guy, but he's also the hard working soul of the outfit. He's the woman too. So he's everything to all people.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's amazing.

[Joe Getty]

Please impregnate me, please. She says, crying bitter tears of love and longing.

[Jack Armstrong]

As you often say, it's amazing Republicans win any elections. I mean, when you running as a Democrat can get that kind of a puff piece, you know, with the best photographer in the world and everything like that written about you. It's just amazing. I was thinking about that one, watching the Sunday talk shows, which are increasingly irrelevant and I don't know how much relevance they have at all anymore. But I was watching George Stephanopoulos do his thing and one of the others doing the thing on the show, and it's so transparent that when Republicans come on there, they challenge them on every point and they've done the research and they grill them on all these different. What about this?

[Joe Getty]

What about that?

[Jack Armstrong]

When Democrats come on, they, they, they just allow them to explain their position, explain why what ICE is doing in Minneapolis is bad. You'll say to Hakeem Jeffries and then he gets to lay out his thing. And then you say, thanks for coming on. If a Republican come on, says, comes on and says, no, it's good and has value. You challenge him on every point.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it's so transparent. Do they not know they're doing it themselves or they just don't care?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I was thinking about that in another context. It's probably had something to do with the Billie Eilish foolishness or whatever they. Or what was it? It was a different thing. They don't see it as bias because they think it's self evident to everybody with a soul what the right is and the wrong is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Yeah. Why would I challenge this guy? He's right.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And everybody knows it. I mean, nobody disagrees with this. Yeah, It's a willful blindness, I guess, and an emotionality about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll tell you what. And Gavin has a history of straying. We're all human. We all fall short sometimes in the presence of Attractive women. He's admitted it himself. If he and that woman didn't have sex, I'll be shocked. I mean, if she didn't follow him around in his office to his home and all these different places, writing like that and getting to know him and they didn't end up in bed, I'll be pretty surprised. Wow. Because that sure sounds like a woman. That. That's where it's going. We had an early dinner.

[Joe Getty]

This. Is that what you call it? This is a salacious suggestion, Mr. Armstrong. I reject it. I disavow. I disavow.

[Jack Armstrong]

She doesn't sound hot for him at all. Talking about his molecular makeup. And he's a combination of Kennedy esque and suave and artistic and just. I mean, wow. Which is just interesting. If a woman ever went that far with me. I think. I think maybe you're a little delusional. I better watch it. You're a little too much.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. You want it a little too much? Yeah. Or you're thinking where and when. That's the only. Only question left, really.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was. I got to come up with that one thing because I got to remember that for the future. The molecular reality. His actual molecular reality. Immaculate. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

He's immaculate. Down to the molecular level, apparently.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's get this out of the way. He's amazingly handsome. Oh, God. All right, we'll finish strong.

[Joe Getty]

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Investigators say Nancy Guthrie, the 84 year old mother of Today show host Savannah Guthrie, disappeared from her tuc, leaving her cell phone behind. The sheriff's office telling ABC News they now believe she may have been kidnapped while she slept. This is a wild story and obviously you wouldn't know anything about it if it weren't for Savannah Guthrie being a big celebrity host of the Today show and lots of different stuff on NBC News for many years. But man, her mom just disappeared in the middle of the night.

[Joe Getty]

I suspect it wouldn't have happened if she wasn't the most famous person.

[Jack Armstrong]

Really? I hadn't thought.

[Joe Getty]

She's a, she's a nice old gal. Well, like she's 84, is it? She lives in just like a suburb of Tucson in a nice suburban development.

[Jack Armstrong]

But why do you think somebody grabbed her? Because her daughter's famous? You think it's doesn't like her news.

[Joe Getty]

Or something or there's a ransom demand coming or something? I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

You better get to know that.

[Joe Getty]

I know it's so because she has heart medication she really, really needs. But why would you snatch an 84 year old woman of no particular anything as she sleeps out of a suburban home.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's past the. You know, if it was younger, you'd be thinking sex, something, but so I don't know. That's a weird story.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it's horrible.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, absolutely.

[Joe Getty]

Can't imagine the anguish of the family. Never mind what you do for a living, whether you're on TV or you're the assistant manager of a groceries.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the police immediately went to homicide and suspicious and all kinds of different stuff immediately when they got to the house.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, we didn't have time to get to the Tulsi Gabbard whistleblower story in which the whistleblower's allegations are so incredibly classified, nobody has any idea how to deal with it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know that.

[Joe Getty]

Talk about that tomorrow. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Final thoughts with Armstrong and Getty. You'll get the facts. They're sharp and steady. Tune in tomorrow. Don't you forget it for more from Armstrong and get.

[Joe Getty]

Very musical.

[Jack Armstrong]

I found that incredibly relaxing for some reason, oddly.

[Joe Getty]

Dylan Mulvaney.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ish. Very relaxing. I feel so soothed. It's like I had a massage. I assume I've never had a massage. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show for the day. There he is, our technical director pressing the buttons in the control room. Michelangelo, what's your final thought? Check out Armstrong, getty.com. michelangelo's football cheese dip is on the website.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was about to bring that up.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, so delicious. Katie Green, a final thought for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jack, you have to try getting a massage. No freaking way.

[Joe Getty]

It's heavenly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Dude.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe you'd relax a little bit there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Keep your hands off me.

[Joe Getty]

For real is right. Let's talk about him. Even though he's here. Jack, a final thought for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I made the cheese dip the last several years. Michelangelo's recipe. Love that. That's one of your favorite parts of the Super Bowl. And then you get the Fritos that are the scoop. You know the scoop Fritos, they're extra strong so they don't break. Oh, that's some good eating right there.

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You got the Hoover Dam. You got those Fritos. The two highest achievements of American engineering. You know what I was. I had a different final thought, but I'm going to go with a food related one. I said this to my sweet bride Judy yesterday. I think cornbread may be my favorite food of all time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pretty good. Good cornbread is pretty dang good.

[Joe Getty]

Warm cornbread with butter on it.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's got the juice.

[Joe Getty]

We had it with chili, homemade chili. There's, there's. I mean, maybe if you see the face of God and you're standing there in the glory of the Lord, it's better than a nice warm piece of cornbread.

[Jack Armstrong]

But it's like I had a grilled cheese with tomato soup the other day, dipping it in there, and I was like, why don't I do this every day? This is the great thing ever. The simple things, people. The simple things.

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