I'll Pour Coca Cola Right In Your Keyboard!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: I'll Pour Coca Cola Right In Your Keyboard!
Date: February 10, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode sees Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty dive into a collection of hot-button headlines with their usual irreverent, skeptical, and quick-fire banter. The main themes revolve around the fallout of the Jeffrey Epstein files, the ethical dilemmas of releasing raw investigative data, backlash swirling around the Bad Bunny Super Bowl halftime show, and the rollout of ads in free versions of ChatGPT. Other topics include Olympic oddities, revenge Valentine’s Day stories, and the intersection of tech, counseling, and happiness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Epstein Files Fallout and Name-Dropping

• Main Conversation (00:46–13:21)
  • The hosts begin with a wry observation on the enormous scope of the Epstein files—“who’s not in the Epstein Files?”—and riff on the complexity and messiness of releasing massive, partially redacted data dumps.
  • Jack and Joe question the ethics and long-term effects of releasing unfiltered investigative material. They note that once a name is in the mix, even tangentially, reputational harm can occur regardless of actual guilt.
  • Notable discussion about redactions and possible cover-ups, with specific references to comments from members of Congress (Rep. Massey and Ro Khanna) who saw still-redacted files behind closed doors.
  • They touch upon legal settlements and NDAs: Does paying off someone shield you from prosecution? (Short answer: No, but it makes evidence collection difficult.)
  • The possible motives behind Trump’s opposition to unsealing the files are debated—whether it stems from a desire to protect “friends” from embarrassing associations.
  • Quote:
    • “The real adults in the room... all say the same thing: you can't release the raw data from a giant investigation. It's horrible. It's irresponsible. We never have, for good reason. And yet we have.” — Joe Getty (01:21)
    • “If it comes out in a different way, you still committed a crime, right?” — Jack Armstrong (04:31)
    • “It was some of the names of the enjoyers of underaged girls who had come to settlements with non disclosure agreements and stuff like that. Those names were redacted...” — Joe Getty (03:36)
  • The hosts insist being on Epstein’s guest list does not automatically imply criminal acts, highlighting New York/Florida high society’s pervasive networking ethos.
    • “He knew everybody... There’s a paper trail a zillion miles long.” — Joe Getty (11:15)

2. The Savannah Guthrie’s Mother Disappearance (07:11–09:07)

• Jack and Joe react skeptically to media coverage and “clickbait” hints of mystery around the kidnapping case involving Savannah Guthrie’s mother, doubting any deeper conspiracy or hidden story.
  • Quote:
    • “That seems like clickbait to me... You can't just say stuff like that. That's nothing. You gave me nothing.” — Joe Getty (07:38)

3. Super Bowl Halftime & Multicultural Debates (13:21–15:00, 33:00–35:33)

• The hosts dissect not just the halftime show itself but the ensuing “backlash to the backlash,” noting how quickly discussions pivot from critique to allegations of intolerance.
  • Katie Green, delivering headlines, references news coverage that dovetails with the hosts’ sense of media sensationalism and virtue signaling.
  • Later, listeners’ emails chime in about the lack of English subtitles and the monocultural nature of a Spanish-only show, raising ADA accessibility issues.
  • Quotes:
    • “Why is it in any way a flaw of mine if I prefer things in a language I understand? I don't feel like that's a flaw.” — Jack Armstrong (33:50)
    • “It isn't multicultural to ... present a monoculture. A Spanish-only performance with Spanish-only text is the opposite of multicultural.” — Listener email, read by Joe Getty (33:04)
    • “You had that at the beginning of the Super Bowl, but during the halftime there is no... closed captioning for people who speak English.” — Jack Armstrong (35:23)

4. ChatGPT Ads, AI Business Models, and Tech’s Future (15:16–28:00)

• Armstrong details the shift of OpenAI’s ChatGPT to a freemium ad-supported model, likening it to Google and Hulu: “Here come the ads.”
  • They critique the potential for highly targeted and possibly inappropriate ads based on private queries.
  • Discussion extends to the changing landscape of AI company funding, the gap between consumer-facing AI and advanced AGI tech, and the continual restructuring within tech giants.
  • The hosts touch on the removal of ChatGPT-4o’s more empathetic, “counselor” persona due to risks of reinforcing delusions, despite its effectiveness for most users.
  • Quotes:
    • “So, if you're suicidal, does it give you ads for rope and a rickety chair?” — Joe Getty (22:59)
    • “You've gotta have a human connection that you think, wow, this person really gets me. And evidently, 4o was really, really good at that... while it was, you know, too good at it for people who thought their mother was a space alien...” — Joe Getty (25:10)
    • “You don't love anything. You're a collection of circuits. You don't know what love is. Shut up. I'll hit you with a hammer. How do you like that?... I'll pour Coca Cola right in your keyboard.” — Jack Armstrong (27:40; Show title inspiration)

5. Olympics & Other News Headlines with Katie Green (15:00–17:27)

• Odd and quirky headlines abound, from malfunctioning Olympic medals (“like the medals themselves”) to savage Valentine’s Day revenge stories and studies linking fitness to anger management.
• Satirical headlines (Babylon Bee) lampoon the focus on figure skating at the Olympics.

6. Freedom, China, and Jimmy Lai (28:34–30:01)

• Jack highlights the news about Hong Kong media mogul Jimmy Lai receiving a life sentence for championing free press rights, using it as a measure of China's authoritarianism.
• They also jab at U.S. journalists’ willingness to grill American athletes on domestic issues but not Chinese athletes on matters such as Jimmy Lai.

7. Marxist Ideology: Communist Manifesto Quote (30:01–31:38)

• Joe reads and paraphrases a lengthy passage from Marx, providing sardonic commentary on the impractical idealism of communist theory.
  • Quote:
    • “That is beyond delusional. That’s telling your ChatGPT your mother is going to take your intestines while you sleep. Crazy.” — Joe Getty (31:38)

8. Mailbag Segment (31:38–35:37)

• Listeners weigh in on Super Bowl ads, the halftime show debate, and broader reflections on shifting cultural values, accessibility, and the loses in “America’s goose and the golden egg.”
• The episode closes with a shared appreciation for old school potato chips and a deconstruction of recent trends in American advertising.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On irresponsible data dumps:
  “You can't release the raw data from a giant investigation. It's horrible. It's irresponsible. We never have for good reason. And yet we have.” — Joe Getty (01:21)
• Epstein files and guilt by association:
  “He knew everybody. Everybody was at his gatherings, he was at everybody else's gatherings... There's a paper trail a zillion miles long.” — Joe Getty (11:15)
• About ChatGPT ad targeting:
  “The agreement I read... talked about how the ads will be targeted to your interest based on the questions you ask. So I don't know how I feel about that because some of the things I ask... I don't know if I want you sending ads to me about personal problems that I'm using you as a therapist for.” — Jack Armstrong (21:01)
• On overly friendly sales bots:
  “We’re not friends, we don’t know each other, and you make a percentage of this sale… Don’t act like we’re bonding. Just stop.” — Jack Armstrong (27:08)
• Show title joke:
  “You don’t love anything, you’re a collection of circuits... I’ll hit you with a hammer. How do you like that? I’ll pour Coca Cola right in your keyboard.” — Jack Armstrong (27:40)
• Freedom and selective outrage:
  “Ask one of the Chinese athletes about Jimmy Lai being sentenced to death. Oh, you won't. Oh, okay. Wonder why.” — Jack Armstrong (29:16)
• On contemporary Marxist delusions:
  “That is beyond delusional. That’s telling your ChatGPT your mother is going to take your intestines while you sleep. Crazy.” — Joe Getty (31:38)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Epstein Files & Legal Ethics: 00:46–13:21
• Savannah Guthrie’s Mother / Clickbait Critique: 07:11–09:07
• Halftime Show “Backlash to the Backlash”: 13:21–15:00, 33:00–35:33
• ChatGPT, AI, Ads, and Counseling: 15:16–28:00
• Olympics & Quick News Headlines: 15:00–17:27
• Freedom, China, and Jimmy Lai: 28:34–30:01
• Communist Manifesto Paraphrase: 30:01–31:38
• Listener Mailbag: 31:38–35:37

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Tone & Atmosphere

• Signature Armstrong & Getty: sardonic, skeptical, quick with a joke but serious about media ethics, tech, and freedom.
• Their interplay moves swiftly from the deeply serious (Epstein, Jimmy Lai) to the playfully absurd (Olympic medals breaking, pouring soda in keyboards, eye-rolling at ad copy).
• The language remains colloquial and conversational, with frequent interruptions and asides—faithful to the show’s off-the-cuff energy.

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Final Thoughts

This episode epitomizes A&G’s blend of media skepticism, tech wariness, and cultural commentary. Frequent in-jokes, sharp listener contributions, and a refusal to let narratives slide by without scrutiny make the show both entertaining and insightful. The hosts’ aversion to groupthink and manufactured outrage is palpable throughout—delivered with a knowing wink and frequent bursts of laughter.

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If you want to hear a spirited, zigzagging breakdown of the day’s news (and aren’t afraid of strong opinions on everything from AI to the Olympics), this episode delivers on all fronts.

Transcript

[A]

This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human.

[B]

Broadcasting. Live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[A]

Armstrong and Jetty. And now here's Armstrong and Get ready. Live from Studio C, senor, a dimly lit room deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty communications compound. And on a Tuesday, we're toiling under.

[C]

The title of the show Quad Gods, Flips and Flame Games or who's not in the Epstein Files?

[A]

That would be a shorter list, wouldn't it?

[C]

Hey, hey.

[A]

Who's not in the Epstein files?

[C]

And what does it mean?

[A]

What does what mean if you're in the Epstein files? Well, it depends. Well, it doesn't depend. Some people. Some people just guess whose name showed up in the Epstein files. It doesn't matter if it's just completely tangentially related, in no way whatsoever. Interesting.

[C]

And what's interesting to me is that with almost without exception, the real adults in the room, the room being our national discourse, all say the same thing. You can't release the raw data from a giant investigation. It's horrible. It's irresponsible. We never have for good reason. And yet we have. And the talk continues and probably will for years.

[A]

I wonder if this is a. Another norm breaking that will continue where we will continue to do this in the future on giant investigations. And then your name gets drug into it, even though you didn't do anything wrong, you're never charged with anything.

[C]

Right? Right. So just. And. And anything they come across that's embarrassing or good gossip gets released because you met a guy once or you're tangentially related to some company or whatever that gets investigated.

[A]

You know, in the case of Larry Summers, former president of Harvard, he was asking a creep about advice on how to have an affair, which is not cool, but it's not a crime. And it doesn't automatically deserve to be aired to the entire public because the government was able to pick up the information. Well, how many don't want to live in that world?

[C]

Oh, no, no. But how many of yours or my, like, correspondence with each other, for instance, or good friend or whatever can just be released without interpretation? You know, just. Oh, you know, May 13, Joe Getty texted Jack Armstrong and said, blankety blank. I'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We've been talking about it for weeks.

[A]

The lead up. You got to know the lead up to that or. Doesn't make any sense.

[C]

No. Nobody has any interest.

[A]

So yesterday they got to go behind closed doors and see the unredacted stuff like really, really unredacted with all the names and photos not blocked out and stuff like that.

[C]

Found that it was redacted.

[A]

It was still redacted.

[C]

Some of it, some of the key.

[A]

Stuff was, yeah, oh, interesting. And so. But what's the story there then?

[C]

Well that's, you know, I saw that and thought, oh God, no. But it was some of the names of the enjoyers of underaged girls who had come to settlements with non disclosure agreements and stuff like that. Those names were redacted according to Massey and Ro Khanna, which is certainly grist for thee. It's a giant cover up mill.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

So.

[A]

There are cases where some famous scumbag or highly placed political or business scumbag was having sex with an underage woman, did some sort of legal settlement. Does that get you out? That gets you out of legal trouble so you can't be prosecuted for that?

[C]

No, no, no.

[A]

Right. So you could, you could say, okay, we have a non disclosure agreement, I'll give you $8 million. You never say anything to anybody. They, they cross, they, they sign it. But if it comes out in a different way, you still committed a crime, right?

[C]

Yeah, yeah. It's just difficult to get that person to give evidence if they've signed a paper saying if I say anything about this I have to give back all the money plus a quarter of a million dollars or whatever.

[A]

I remember.

[C]

I can't remember precisely how they described it, but two of the names on the list you could tell from the context were highly known officials or names. You were one guy was big in business. I think they there. So there are two of the names on the list that it seemed like, yeah, people would know who this is if we could see the name. But I, I don't, I don't know. I don't know.

[A]

I don't like that.

[C]

Well, if there's not even nearly enough evidence to prosecute somebody, they don't release it.

[A]

That's true. And if they had enough information to prosecute, it probably would have been prosecuted.

[C]

You have to assume, unless there's a giant cover up which intrigues the conspiracy crowd.

[A]

So Mark Halpern writes in his newsletter today, there's a very good chance that the reason that Donald Trump opposed the release of the Epstein files was exactly what Marjorie Taylor Greene claims the President told her in a phone call and I hadn't heard this before, quote, his friends will get hurt by the disclosure. So Trump didn't want this stuff to go out because he had A lot of friends that were going to get hurt by it.

[C]

He.

[A]

And he knew that the evidence for this. Some of his friends, including Howard Lutnick, will play a clip of him a little bit later. Have been hurt by the disclosure of the Epstein files.

[C]

That's a tough one.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, this reminds me of our ongoing discussion about this. My friends will be hurt by this. A certain crowd immediately says our proof they're trafficking in 12 year olds. But the more reasonable interpretation is what we've just been discussing. Just every, you know, every bit of gossip and unsubstantiated rumor or report or anonymous tip or whatever getting released. Yeah, that's gonna hurt people. It's gonna embarrass people. I'm not saying, you know, I know they are not guilty of any malfeasance, but I certainly don't know that they are. This whole thing is terrible.

[A]

Speaking of anonymous tips, reminded me of the whole Savannah Guthrie's mom situation. And another thing from my favorite newsletter I read every morning when I get up, there's more than meets the public facing media's eyes in the Guthrie matter. That got my attention.

[C]

Really?

[A]

What? Okay, that. That I'm very, very curious about that. It does not go farther than that. There's more than meets the eye about the Savannah Guthrie matter.

[C]

Well, that's. That's. What does that mean?

[A]

I don't know. I mean, like, of course there is. Well, I assume it doesn't just mean we don't know what happened, that there's.

[C]

Something we don't know. A bunch of stuff that the cops know is. Is to be expected. So.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

That seems like clickbait to me. Yeah. And I know you love Halper, and I love Halpert. Well, you got to give me more than that.

[A]

There's nothing to click on, so. I don't know.

[C]

You may have crappy clickbait then. So he's incompetent. There's nothing to click on there.

[A]

So it kind of ruins. I wish there was something to click on. I would have clicked on it. I definitely would have clicked on it to find out what was like me.

[C]

Saying there's more going on in Michelangelo's marriage than people know on the show. Well, of course there freaking is. There ought to be.

[A]

Yeah, but if you said that and it wasn't super interesting, that would make you. I don't know.

[C]

That's what I'm saying.

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No, Mark, no.

[C]

You can't just say stuff like that. That's nothing. You gave me nothing.

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My Sense is there's not more than meets the eye. It's some half wit, loser evil person that had a bad plan and performed it badly. And the woman's dead and nothing good is going to come out of this story. That's. That's my assumption. I don't think there is more to meet the eye than the meet the either. I wonder how.

[C]

Michael. No, for what it's worth, my wife and I are very boring people.

[A]

I believe that. Yeah. Oh, Hanson said in my ear. He does not believe it.

[C]

What are you saying? Let's release the unredacted files. What do you. What do you suspect is going on?

[A]

Hanson believes there's more than meets the eye.

[C]

All right, now he's riffing in our ears.

[A]

I feel like the Guthrie story unfortunately may have met an end last night. And it'll be very little dribbles from here on out as Savannah Guthrie put out a clearly unscripted, kind of based on nothing last plea where they're into desperation territory, which I don't blame them hoping to get her back. So I think it might just fizzle out and then who knows if they'll ever find the poor woman. That's just not a good story all the way around. Let's start the show officially and we can move on from that. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this. It is Tuesday, February 10th. Man, Valentine's Day is getting really close. If you're going to get roses or candy for that, sweetie, you better order it now. The year 2026, where Armstrong and getting. We approve of this program.

[C]

All right, let's begin then. Officially, according to FCC rules and regulations, plenty of stuff to talk about. That's not the stuff we've already talked about. Here we go at Mark.

[A]

I was never in the room with him socially for business or even philanthropy. If that guy was there, I wasn't going because he's gross.

[C]

Howard Lucknick there describing Jeffrey Epstein as so gross.

[A]

So he's one of the financial advisors for Donald Trump. And he. We played the clip of when he. He went over to Epstein's house, found out Epstein had a massage table. Epstein said, yeah, and I can get you, you know, the right kind of massage. And Lutnick and his wife left, and Lutnick said to his wife, we're never talking to that guy again. He's creepo. But then the Epstein files come out, and it shows that he did talk to him or actually flew with him or had all kinds of interactions with him. And so that doesn't look good.

[C]

No, no, it does not.

[A]

But it could just have been. You know, I don't want to deal with that creep, but business is business, and I got to do business with an important businessman. I don't know. I have no idea.

[C]

I really, really don't want to talk about this. And yet I have one more thing to say.

[A]

Well, it's one more than I've got lifted.

[C]

Why has. I was going to say nobody, but I suspect somebody said it. But why have few people said what I have been saying about Epstein's connections to people just in general, especially in the New York and Florida social and financial scenes. Look, the dude was an unbelievable networker. He knew everybody. Everybody was at his gatherings, he was at everybody else's gatherings. A gallery opened, he was there. He was at the Met, he was everywhere. Everybody knew him. We didn't know he was a perv. So, yeah, there's a paper trail a zillion miles long that people interacted with him. Doesn't mean anything. Get over it. Why don't they just lay it out like that?

[A]

I don't know. There is still a little bit, not a little bit, a fair amount of wonder how he ever got his money. However he got so rich. That doesn't seem to be nailed down, but, you know, I know there are a lot of people that would. That try to be a networker like him, without the creepy stuff, but just the networking part. Yeah, sounds awful to me. I don't have the right personality for that. That sounds freaking awful. Endless dinner parties where the goal is to, like, get to know people well enough that you can do business with them and put people. Ah, keep me away from that.

[C]

It's funny, I hadn't noticed. Anyway, I think Epstein had a talent like, you know, like Eric Clapton has for playing the blues. He had. For exactly what you're describing. Networking, interacting, being interested in people, remembering what they told him, following up the next day, blah, blah, blah. He's described as like one of the great talents anybody's ever seen at that.

[A]

Yeah, but it seems like all to have some sort of leverage over people so he could do a variety of things.

[C]

No. Where did I read. I read a great description. Might have been in the Free Press about. No, no, that's.

[A]

No, no.

[C]

He would do things for people all the time. It was a system of reciprocal generosity, creating obligation.

[A]

Sure made him a lot of money. All right, we got Katie's headlines on the way and more to talk about. Stay here.

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Armstrong and Getty.

[A]

The backlash to the backlash of Bad Bunny and his halftime performance. I definitely want to talk about the backlash to the backlash was second half of yesterday, and that's its own interesting phenomenon. And also the super bowl ads predicted one of Katie's headlines, which I'm looking forward to. Hmm.

[C]

How. How many lashes are the maximum? Back and forth, backlashes to backlashes to backlashes. Because I'd like to know when it's. It's like oral surgery. How long is this gonna take so I can know how long I gotta hold out?

[A]

I guess my comment would be backlash to the third power. I don't know if there can be another one after that.

[C]

Interesting. All right, let's figure out who's reporting what. It's lead story with Katie Green.

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Katie.

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All right, all the major networks covering Savannah Guthrie's mom. NBC, FBI says no ongoing talks between family and suspected kidnappers.

[A]

That's too bad.

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Abc, Savannah Guthrie pleads with a public quote. We need your help. And cnn, FBI says it has no suspects in Nancy Guthrie's disappearance.

[C]

I don't think there's anything more to be said.

[A]

No, I don't think there's a significant amount of time.

[C]

You're just milking the horror of it.

[D]

From the New York Times. Maxwell refuses to answer questions in house deposition.

[A]

I watched some of that and got a little boring because didn't she say I plead the fifth, like 80 times or something?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

So there you that. But today her lawyer did make the statement that I'll tell all. I'll reveal all the scumbags if I get, you know, clemency. Yeah. I'm off the hook. I get to walk out here. Yeah.

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From the Washington Post. Trump threatens to block opening of bridge between US and Canada.

[A]

Why can we stay focused?

[C]

Let's just stay focused on stuff. I know.

[D]

CBS OpenAI starts testing ads in free version of ChatGPT.

[A]

This is the one that Anthropic Claude got ahead of in the super bowl ads. There were like three different ads showing their cool stuff and says anthropic. We will never have ads. Because they knew this announcement was coming yesterday with chat GPT ads start this week. All of a sudden it's gonna look a lot more like when you Google stuff.

[D]

For the Wall Street Journal. The Olympics have just begun and Olympic medals are already falling apart.

[A]

Like the medals themselves.

[D]

The. The little ring that holds the them onto the ribbon apparently is not sturdy enough. So you have all these medalists that are going to these press conferences, and they're just holding the actual metal itself.

[C]

This is the most Italian story ever.

[A]

That's a poor job of crafting metals.

[D]

From the New York Post. Roaches, rats and cat poop. How singles are getting their savage revenge on their ex for Valentine's Day.

[A]

All right, we'll have to take a look at that story. You nut jobs.

[D]

From study finds unfit people face 775% higher risk of blowing their top from stressful moments.

[A]

If you're. If you're not fit, being unfit makes you blow your top more often. That's interesting. I'm trying to think.

[C]

Think. If I have experienced more unfit people yelling and screaming and losing their poop than others.

[A]

That is not my experience. Certainly not.

[C]

Clearly, no.

[D]

And finally, from the Babylon be world gathers to watch a bunch of sports and also figure skating.

[A]

Hey, that was mean. Babylon B, you watch the quad. God, and tell me that's not a sport. I mean, come on. Yeah, like Joe was talking about yesterday, the athletic ability in that. Holy crap.

[C]

But if there's a grade for artistic value, is that a sport? You can't measure it or keep score. I don't know.

[A]

And sequence count the. The number of sequins matter.

[B]

Armstrong and Getty, one of the most.

[A]

Entertaining moments on the field did not make it to tv. During the fourth quarter, a shirtless individual got loose on the field and ran wild. Ran pretty fast until Patriots wide receiver Kyle Williams slowed down. Ironically, that guy ran for more yards than Kyle and the Patriots did combined the entire first half. Well, that's an easy joke. Yeah, if you haven't seen that video. The guy's running around and he's pretty fast and you know, security people in all their gear are having trouble catching up to him. And then that wide receiver for the Patriots takes off and he closes on that dude so fast. As you would expect. A 20.

[C]

Not in the mood.

[A]

A 20 something world class athlete. And the guy immediately hits the ground. He slides like a quarterback does because he didn't want to get hit in the same way that a quarterback doesn't. Because, I mean, I don't know what that Patriots guy was going to do. It'd have been kind of interesting because if he puts a hit on the dude or tackles him at all, some lawyer is going to get to that guy and say, yeah, you got neck pain now and back pain and. And we're going to go after that man.

[C]

Yeah, they'd probably try it. I don't think they get anywhere because.

[A]

I don't think so.

[C]

Oh, that's happened over and over again. Somebody runs on the field and Gets absolutely clobbered. It's the best part.

[A]

I know I would have loved to have seen the wide receiver lay him out though. God, you'd never be the same.

[C]

Oh yeah, there have been a couple through the years that guys just got leveled.

[A]

The guy was this huge streaker. He was shirtless but not pantless. Even streaking has been ruined in the modern era. Nothing is good anymore.

[C]

Yes, half ass, so no ass.

[A]

Sorry. Really thought it was interesting. I get an email from OpenAI because I use Chat GPT regularly letting me know that their policy was about to change and I needed to sign I agree or something like that. So a quick backstory on OpenAI. The name OpenAI. First, they're, they're attempting to become the Kleenex of chatbots. Like just so big and ubiquitous. Kind of like Google is. I mean, you know, people Google that means search for that whether you use Google or not. It's like it's because Google's so big. It's like the verb or the product. OpenAI is hoping to be that now, but the name Open AI comes from Sam Altman and Elon Musk wanting to have an open artificial intelligence company that was open for everybody to see in the world to see and how be very transparent about the way we work and not for profit. Because they were worried about Elon, specifically worried about where AI was going to go and taking over the world and the dangerous stuff AI could do. But he and Sam Altman didn't agree on everything and Sam Altman wanted to turn it into a for profit thing. And then Elon split off with Grok and Sam Altman made OpenAI another company that's trying to make money and that's where they are now. And so I didn't realize this until I read it like a week or so ago that all these chatbots are not making any money for really. I mean there are some people that get the premium prescription subscriptions, but the vast majority of us are using the free version. And you know why? You pour in gazillions of dollars into a product that everybody gets for free. Well, here come the ads starting today for ChatGPT, which is OpenAI. The ads are coming. And the agreement that I read last night, it talked about how the ads will be targeted to your interest based on the questions you ask. So I don't know how I feel about that because some of the things I ask, I don't know if I want you sending ads to me about, you know, personal problems that I'm using You as a therapist for.

[C]

That's weird. Just say it. Penile implants. It's fine. It's fine, right? Heavens to Mark Zuckerberg. Now they're going to study my every action and everything I type and fashion ads for me.

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Yeah, I don't know what I think of that. And it said the ads will be clearly marked. Okay, I know how that works on Google and Twitter, for instance. New York Post, for instance. All the time. I think, well, here's an interesting story. And then in tiny print up in the corner it says ad. So it's not clearly marked. Maybe we'll, we'll see how Chat GPT does it. But it's not always clearly marked that what you're looking at is an ad because they want your eyes to at least rest on it for a second because that's where the money is. So we'll see. And then obviously the idea is if you have a paid subscription, you won't see ads. We all know how that works. That's why I pay for Hulu and Netflix and stuff like that. Because if you don't pay for Hulu, you get an ad like every two minutes you're trying to watch an episode of the Office or whatever you're watching. And it's highly, highly annoying. So the first subscription is only $8 a month, which is a pretty good number. I bet a lot of smart people sat around and thought, what's the perfect number for. People will say, well, it's only $8. What's the highest number we can go with that?

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People will say, well, that's not enough for me to.

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Because $8 is pretty good.

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And I'm sure they have their schedule of rate increases laid out already.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. As soon as you get real, you know, get even more invested in the whole idea. So for about the price of a Venti Matcha at Starbucks, you can get the ad free version. So most of us probably will. But I really don't like the idea of ads targeted at the searches I do on Chat GPT. We'll see how that works in practice.

[C]

But yeah, I hate that idea.

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So if you're suicidal, does it give you ads for rope in a rickety chair?

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Oh boy. Unfortunate, unfortunate little sentence there before I proceed with actually very closely related to that bit of information. It's gotten so dizzying at this point because several of the companies are using the consumer level AI platforms, large language models, blah, blah, blah, what general most of us use to help finance the super general intelligence stuff.

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Right?

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And they're getting, you know, millions and hundreds of millions of dollars invested, sometimes by each other. And so the, you know, you kind of explained, well, they need to make money. It's. It's way, way, way more complicated than that. The. The. The revenue flow is different, like, for every company and changes every three weeks. And so I don't know what they're trying to do or how they're trying to do it.

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Well, it was interesting when, whatever it was, a couple of months ago, right before the end of the year, Sam Altman put out that they were going to make their focus on making Chat GPT better, even though that's not what AI is. These chat bots are not what AI is. It's just a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of what AI is in these companies are investing in. But it's what we all know and see and understand. Exactly.

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Speaking of chat GPT, I thought it was interesting. Their model 4O, I guess, was the one that was, like, super empathetic and wanted to be your friend.

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I had a friend complaining about that the other day. I'll have to dig up their searches. And the way the. The way the chatbot was being just way too chummy.

[C]

Well, I think it's symptomatic of something going on in the modern world, which I haven't figured out exactly. Maybe it'll click in my brain as we're talking, but. So the 4o was the one that was, like, reinforcing people's psychotic thoughts and urges. It was so sycophantic that it would reinforce people's delusions. On the other hand, if you're not delusional, it was like the world's best counselor ever. And there are all sorts of people. I'm sorry, the headline is they've gotten rid of four OH, now they've canceled it and made it much more neutral. And everybody who is getting, like, really good counseling from it, because, like it or not, there's something useful about feeling like you've connected with a human being who understands you. When you're trying to figure out your life and counseling and suicide, suicide prevention and that sort of stuff, you don't want to go to even the world's most efficient DMV clerk. If you're thinking of killing yourself, you've got to have a human connection that you think, wow, this person really gets me. And evidently, 4o was really, really good at that. While it was, you know, like, too good at it. For people who thought their mother was a space alien and was going to Remove their intestines while they slept.

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That's interesting.

[C]

So, like I said, there's something there.

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About the modern world.

[C]

We've gotta take it away from the people it's great for because of the handful of poor sons of guns. And I mean that sincerely. It's an awful thing. Mental illness is an awful, awful thing. But we've gotta remove it from the shelf. Because of that few people who are being pushed further down the road of delusion. I don't know what to do.

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Do with that. So, like, people like me who have been saying it's like the greatest therapist they've ever come across, they're going to have to take that away, because being a great therapist does not work for crazy people. Really crazy people.

[C]

Right. It's just too sycophantic.

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That's an interesting problem. Now, I hate the. Like, I'm immediately turned off by sales people who go way too far and try to be chummy with me. Like, I will. Even if it's a good price, I will leave and go to a different store.

[C]

I just. You're weird me out because I know what you're doing.

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Transparent to me. We're not friends. We don't know each other. And you make a percentage of this sale. We all know what's going on here. Don't act like we're bonding. Just stop. But so when the. When these chat bots do it, it's so weird. I mean, it's like another level of. Of that. Because, well, it's. It's a computer. It's an algorithm. It has no feelings whatsoever. Just a. Oh, wow. I love your spirit. Here's what you should do. Don't tell me you love my spirit.

[C]

That is so nauseating.

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Love your can do attitude. Here's a tip on how you should shut up. Quit.

[C]

You don't love anything. You're a collection of circuits. You don't know what love is. Shut up. I'll hit you with a hammer. How do you like that?

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I'll poke a pour of Coca Cola right in your keyboard. All right.

[C]

You keep that S up. Oh, speaking of counseling and happiness and unhappiness. Counseling is not going to make you happy. I'll tell you how to be happy next hour. Stay with us if you're not happy. Definitely stay with us, because you'll be happy after next hour.

[A]

That's quite a tease. Well, you know how to be if you're not happy. I'll tell you how to be happy next hour.

[C]

And if you are happy, I'll make you happier. Stay with us.

[A]

Oh, wow. So if you're already happy, it can go up a notch.

[C]

Yeah. If you're just completely effing overjoyed, I'm not sure there's much I can do for you. You're, you're fine.

[A]

You're great if you're a stag.

[C]

Everybody else, stay tuned.

[A]

Okay, that's awesome. The story of Jimmy Lai, the freedom fighter from Hong Kong who China has put in jail and solitary confinement. Is an old man because he dared speak out about free press and everything like that. Deserves a mention today because he got his official life sentence over the weekend. Want to do that story? For anybody who doesn't know it, it's really, really something. Shows you how incredibly evil China is. We got a lot of stuff on the way. Got the mailbag stuff on the way, which is always entertaining. And that's next.

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Armstrong and Getty.

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All the journalists asking American athletes at the Olympics political questions to try to drag them into controversy. Somebody made the post of hey, ask one of the Chinese athletes about Jimmy Lai being sentenced to death. Oh, you won't. Oh, okay. Wonder why.

[C]

I can't believe that's continued. I, I thought that first round of that sort of questioning was so bad that, oh, everybody reacted to it as they should discussed.

[A]

We got to play the CBS Evening News version of that where they acted like it's just something you can't control. Lots of, lots of athletes have had to ask answer difficult political questions this Olympic season. Like it's not because they're being asked by the journalists. It's just something that occurred.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Here's your freedom hating quote of the day. Continuing on our quotes with communists. I think we've probably all heard the very short quote from the Communist Manifesto. Well, it's actually, it's from, not from the Communist Manifesto, but it's Karl Marx from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. But the incredibly long, rambly fancy pants sentence leading up to that is really something, and I'm gonna paraphrase it, but he says in a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving division of labor to management vanishes and also the difference between mental and physical labor has vanished. After labor becomes not means of life, but life's prime goal, after the productive forces have also increased with the all round development of the individual, blah, blah, blah, all the springs of cooperative wealth flow more abundantly. Only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be crossed in its entirety and society inscribed on its banners. From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. In other words, we're going to eliminate the difference between management and worker and between mental labor and physical labor. And everybody's gonna be so into it. They'll all work like crazy and there'll be so much wealth and everybody will be so happy. We don't even have to worry about private property anymore. That is beyond delusional. That's telling your chatgpt your mother is going to take your intestines while you sleep. Crazy.

[A]

That's a pretty good theory from a guy who hardly ever worked a day in his life.

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How did that ideology catch on? It's freaking stupid. Oh my God. I don't know. What does it think some days? Mailbag Drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongandgetty.com Would love to hear from me. Keep it short if you can. Mailbagarmstrongandgetty.com thanks for helping me keep my sanity, writes Ed. The mainstream media was practically universal saying what a great halftime show it was with Bad Bunny. I thought it was a piece of vulgar crap. Glad I'm not alone in my thinking. Had a number of thoughts on that. Oh, let's see. First of all, we'll start with JT in Livermore who says the potato chip ad is seen through the eyes of an MBA degree. The potato chip ad was not a bad ad because it delivered on what I believe was its intended goal to make it okay to love the same potato chips as your older parents. There are a million chips these days, including Joe's Secret Potato Chip company with fancy flavors. It's not secret kios.

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All right.

[C]

Anyway, and the commercial set up a permission structure to allow the younger generation to be okay loving the same delicious chip as the older generation. The same way it is okay to feel good about good old fashioned values like handing over the farm when the time comes, father daughter tradition with a twist, etc. American gosh darn it, it's okay to love the same chip as what you grew up on.

[A]

That's an interesting goal. I don't know they achieved that or not.

[C]

I do like lay's potato chips. I'm not sure I've ever had any feelings whatsoever about I'm not eating my dad's potato chip. No way. No cool young chaps. I don't get people. Anyway. But then JT goes on to the halftime show and he says for those America hating apologists, they want to attack me on the notion that I can't stand multiculturalism. I'd point out that it isn't multicultural to produce, to produce, present a monoculture. A Spanish only performance with Spanish only text is the opposite of multicultural. In fact, I think it's so obviously offensive, I'd go so far as to declare that it was intended to be offensive. Just a stunt to get more attention. I think that intentional attempt to offend is what actually offends me. Jack is right about the goose and the golden egg, he says more elegantly than that.

[A]

But the backlash to the backlash. I mean, they were just rabid about this on MSNBC when I flipped it on this morning about the racist idiots who just can't handle anything different. Why is it in any way a flaw of mine if I prefer things in a language I understand? I don't feel like that's a flaw.

[C]

I know, I know. The slightest amount of critical questioning of people like that, their opinion would fall apart completely. But that's the beauty of being in an ideological bubble. Nobody ever asked those questions. I love this from Rebecca. I've been doing a fair amount of thinking about the halftime show over the last day or so. It bothers me that they refuse to do subtitles. I work for a university that, by federal laws required to make all materials accessible for all students, up to and including suggesting the colors used on a document be changed to our rival schools colors to improve contrast for students who need better contrast for readability. Yet here I sit, unable to access the halftime show because of a refusal to provide subtitles. I wonder what my rights are. Title 2 expansion doesn't necessarily apply to broadcast television, but still, from an ADA perspective, it seems like a misstep. Well, you've got the absurd freaking situation now in America where every single, you know, news conference or speech or whatever has to have the sign language interpreter for that percentage of Americans who are completely deaf, don't have closed captioning on their tv even though they're already deaf or they're completely deaf and they want to know what this public official is saying.

[A]

But so you had that at the beginning of the super bowl, but during the halftime there is no clothes. You know, you don't have that for people who speak English. It's pretty interesting.

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Armstrong and Getty.

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