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While both the US And Iran are speaking of progress in talks, both also seem to be preparing for the possibility of war. The Pentagon sending a second carrier strike group to the region and at the same time that Iranian and US Negotiators met in Geneva Tuesday. Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz. It's a vital ship lane. Using it now for live fire exercises and joint military exercises are planned tomorrow with Russia.
Michael
That's he and panel of ABC News saying both sides are preparing for war. There are lots of news outlets suggesting that we are barreling toward A real war with a real country. Shocking how little coverage this gets. I don't know what to say about that. I think it's because we've had a couple of, you know, we bomb the crap out of somebody for a couple hours and then get out, get out of there without losing a plane or a single person. Grab Maduro, a couple of things like that. And just I was comparing it to when the Iraq war started, the second Iraq war in 2003, and the whole country was talking about it.
Joe Getty
Right.
Michael
It was a national, was actually a national debate over whether this is a good old night. But that was like still the hangover from Vietnam of getting involved in wars and all that sort of stuff. Apparently we've now had so many. It doesn't really affect me. Sorts of military exercises that nobody cares. I don't know what I think.
Joe Getty
That's one of several factors. We've had several pretty successful hit and run type operations, including the miraculous success of the Maduro snatching, including the use of the discombobulator, which is amazing. If you didn't hear that segment, grab it via podcast Armstrong and get on demand. But you also have the never ending volume of the modern world, the modern, you know, media world. There's shouting about every single story all the time. So I think people are overwhelmed and they're having difficulty figuring out which of the stories to pay attention to. You know, it's a number of things. But yeah, Trump and company have established themselves as miraculously good. Well, the United States military at hit and run type operations. But Iran would not be that probably unless they lay down their arms and say uncle.
Michael
Yeah, well, Mark Halperin's reporting over the weekend talking to people in the White House, in the Pentagon. He said there is a real good chance of a sustained war with Iran. Like many strikes, weeks, all kinds of different ways of attacking them, attempted regime change, the whole thing. And with Iran obviously fighting back. Here's another version of a news report from the story is. Which is on News Nation or. I don't know where that is, but anyway, go ahead.
Joe Getty
A massive US Military buildup is underway in the Middle East. Even as the US And Iran are back at the negotiating table, it's clear the United States is preparing for possible military action. Over the course of the last month, more than 250 U.S. military cargo planes have landed in theater. That's a significant uptick in activity, which suggests some of these flights are tied to preparations for potential operations against Iran. Okay, they absolutely are. Yeah. This is not some sort of saber rattling thing. Whether Trump pulls the trigger or not, I'm nobody knows. But he's absolutely loading the gun.
Michael
Yeah. And I tend to buy the argument that they've Iran has killed more American soldiers than any other country on earth over the last half a century. They've been a problem for the world. They're the leading exporter of terror around the world for a half a century. They're never going to be weaker than they are right now. They want a nuclear weapon really bad. Why in the hell wouldn't you take them out when you got the chance? That's the direction I lead.
Joe Getty
They're also infamously bad faith negotiators, which I think we're probably about to get into.
Michael
Can we hear from J.D. vance? He was talking about this yesterday on fox news. That'd be 54, Michael.
Joe Getty
We would very much like, as the president has said, to resolve this through a conversation and a diplomatic negotiation. But the president has all options on the table. And you know, one thing about the negotiation I will say this morning is, you know, in somewhat it went well. They agreed to meet afterwards. But in other ways it was very clear that the president has set some red lines that the Iranians are not yet willing to actually acknowledge and work through. So we're going to keep on working it. But of course, the president reserves the ability to say when he thinks that diplomacy has reached its natural end. We hope we don't get to that point, but if we do, that'll be the president's call.
Michael
So I'll be involved in those talks indirectly and they'll be very important. We'll see what can happen. But typically Iran's a very tough negotiation.
Joe Getty
They're good negotiators or bad? I would say they're bad negotiators, JD Saying that they have not yet acknowledged the red lines that Trump has said is absolutely necessary. Another way to put that, and I saw in a headline, was that they were ignoring the red lines. They were acting as if they didn't exist. They were negotiating about other things, which is the Iranian strategy to string you long, string you long, come to an agreement, then dishonor it the minute they strike it, not let the inspectors in, claim some sort of offense or whatever and then go back to doing what they're doing. I think that's partially company are not going to let them do that.
Michael
I think that's partially because a lot of countries, Iran, Russia, China, think the United States does not have the stomach for an actual war politically.
Joe Getty
True.
Michael
Which they might be Right. Although the President gets to make that call. I'm looking up at ABC News. They are in panels on there right now talking about latest round of talks with Iran. But they had to get through a missing woman and skiers and avalanches and stuff like that before we got to one of the biggest builds up in build ups in the Middle east ever that's going on right now. Okay, we'll see where this goes. And the thing with it is, if you're not a student of this sort of activity, wars regularly go. It's like the alignment problem with AI. There's an alignment problem with wars. You got a goal, you got a plan, you got a timetable and all kinds of different things. Come at. We got one news story here about Russia's doing some military maneuvers with Iran. Russia gets pulled in or somebody else gets hit and now you're more blah, blah, blah. All kinds of strange things can happen in wars.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that's absolutely true. So as the Iranians are, as they usually do, trying to string things along through negotiations so they can, you know, run their playbook. I just described. I honestly think Trump is saying, yeah, that's fine. In fact, he gave them a two week deadline, I think, which is fine because he's getting the assets in place to give them all good hard whacking. I suspect that's where it ends that there is a significant military strike against Iran. I would put it with them fighting back.
Michael
1% confidence with them fighting back or not, because they didn't really fight back this last time.
Joe Getty
It was mostly symbolic.
Michael
Mostly, yes.
Joe Getty
With them fighting. Yeah, I think so. I think they'll see it as an.
Michael
Existential threat and they'll forgive on attack our troops, various bases.
Joe Getty
Which will bring on in all likelihood the true awesome, terrifying might of the United States military.
Michael
I would assume it's been a long time since we've had a. Somebody attacks one of our bases and kills 400 marines or something like that. You know, if that's on the table now, that's going to get America's attention. Going to get Trump's attention, right?
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah. Well, and Trump I think, is an escalator. And the mullahs and the Republican Guard have got to be contemplating that they cannot count on a Biden Obama style. Oh my God, this has gone farther than I thought. We'll be the ones to back down. Not from Trump. Right.
Michael
Or an Obama don't. Their, their foreign policy motto was don't do stupid S the problem being, as we've said a thousand times, not Doing something is a decision, right?
Joe Getty
Yeah. Trump is a dice roller, man. He really is.
Michael
This could easily end up being the legacy of his presidency if, oh, yeah, we get a full on war with Iran and, and ends up with a different leadership or it goes really poorly. Like I said, wars can always go off the rails in directions you just can't even imagine.
Joe Getty
Yeah, the last 50 years of relations with Iran have been pretty off the rails. And I'm not calling for war. I don't get a vote, but I think it's likely. Do you think we give them a timeline to get out at some point? Say you got 72 hours to get.
Michael
Out, or like we did with Saddam? Did we do that? We did. You got till Friday at noon. Basically, what W said.
Joe Getty
Well, the word is they're already packed in case those protests got out of hand. More out of hand. So, yeah, they could probably turn it around, 48 hours or so.
Michael
Yeah. Do the press protests play any role in it at this point?
Joe Getty
They may have motivated Trump. He really, you know, for all of his bizarre psyche, psychological makeup, he really doesn't like to see people killed.
Michael
You know, I've been saying for years, Trump is going to be, Trump is unique in every way, but Trump is going to be unique in that. I don't know what kind of books are ever going to be written about him because so few people, you know, know what he's thinking. I mean, he does stuff. He comes up with ideas in the middle of the night and tweets them out.
Joe Getty
And the great thinkers of the present and the future are gonna try to suss that out, try to try to get a handle on his thinking. And they will only be partially successful at best. Right.
Michael
As opposed to most presidents where they sit around and have, you know, endless meetings with 10 people in the room on every single decision. And every one of those people writes a book or, or is featured in a book. Trump's not gonna really have that.
Joe Getty
Except for maybe Susie Wiles.
Michael
She might be the biggest book contract out there. She might be the person with the best idea of what it was actually like in a, in the Trump White House for all these different things. Might not be anybody else on planet earth that really has that access.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I don't know how much access JD Vance has these days. I suspect it's more than most vice presidents, but I don't know. No idea.
Michael
Crazy. But this could happen any hour, this attack on Iran. And just, you know, don't be shocked when we're at war with a major country and they're fighting back as Joe.
Joe Getty
Second tier country. Second tier.
Michael
You don't put them in the major tier category. Who's in the major tier category? Nope. Nobody but Russia and China in terms of enemies.
Joe Getty
Wow. In terms of military capability.
Michael
Yeah.
Joe Getty
You got to give me a minute to concoct that. I mean, it's unfair to say they're not a super power. Everybody knows that. I think they're more of a paper tiger than. Than. Than they would have you believe.
Michael
So I hope you're right. That'd be awesome.
Joe Getty
I also feel like, and dang, we're swearing we were going to break on time. I also think the enormous boiling hatred and resentment of the regime among the people of Iran has absolutely spread to the armed forces. We just haven't seen that that bitter flower bloom yet. But it might.
Michael
There's another Epstein story today. Zuckerberg's taking the stand any minute. We'll have any details on that in the social media trial and lots coming up. Stay here.
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All right, so this is just too good. You heard about the Washington Post layoffs? Jeff Bezos says, all right, we're losing $100 million a year. This has stop well, a bunch of the staffers and right of the journalists said, we won't accept this. They made various statements about why doesn't he just keep supporting it? Why is he cutting as if they have a right to have him lose $100 million a year, whatever it is. So this is great. They staged a demonstration at the WaPo yesterday, I think it was, or the day before. And here is the leader of the walkout, setting the tone for their attitude. And the setup for this is sometimes you think these people are nuts. Then you think, no, they just see the world differently. They have different opinions. No, they're actually freaking nuts.
Michael
A thing right now to show the management that they can't trample our rights.
Joe Getty
And they can't just roll us over. Today is a somewhat scary day. But because everyone's here to demonstrate our collective power, we're going to be doing this together. So they're going to demonstrate their rights, their right to work at the Washington Post.
Michael
Journalism nobody wants to read.
Joe Getty
Right. Our plan is to walk into the building and show our right to work. Management has locked us out and let us show them they can't just do it. Let's go.
Michael
No, this can't be real. Are. These are people that are journalists that made it to the Washington Post. I mean, that's like one of the top spots on planet Earth.
Joe Getty
You thought. Yeah, beta males and women wearing masks, by the way, if you're trying to picture them. Roll the next one, Michael, and I'll be talking over it. So they go in with their passes, their work passes. Roll it, roll it. They go in with their work passes and are trying to get through the turnstiles, the security turnstiles. That's the beeping you're hearing. But of course, course it's not working because their passes have been invalidated.
Michael
Their key cards got shut off.
Joe Getty
Exactly.
Michael
So how long have they been.
Joe Getty
Here it comes. There's a right to be in the building. It is a right to work. It has a right to be inside the Washington Post and work. Doing our jobs. And they're refusing to let us in. This is ridiculous. And the outrage. Jeff Bezos, formerly CEO, Will Lewis Vineet and Matt Monahan. We deserve to work in this building.
Michael
You know, if he works. If he worked at Dutch Brothers Coffee, I would think you're not qualified for this sort of work.
Joe Getty
You don't have a right to work anywhere.
Michael
How is, you know, one of the things that's happened in recent years before?
Joe Getty
Too much analysis. Indulge me here.
Michael
Okay.
Joe Getty
What is this protest missing? A good chant. Go ahead, Michael.
Michael
Wow, that's enthusiastic. We'll be back. We'll be back.
Joe Getty
Okay.
Michael
If you had to measure the testosterone in that chant, there are four. Four of your little things. Swimmers. Four total. One thing that has happened over recent years, and I don't remember where it started, but like, it happened with the CDC because of COVID It happened with all the universities. You're seeing it here with these Washington Post reporters. Us normal people had a view of elite, of being. You know, I. I don't agree with them. And they're pompous, but I assume they're really, really smart.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Michael
And they're not.
Joe Getty
Oh.
Michael
And they're not the people at these universities that went there or teach there or the people in the CDC or the people who write for the top newspapers in the world or whatever. They're just. They're not smarter than me. I always assumed they were, but they're not.
Joe Getty
Often they're just self righteous and they're willing to hurt people who disagree with them so they get their way. They're bullies, but you saw they're half wits and bullies.
Michael
That guy sounds like a We have.
Joe Getty
A right to work here. We have a right to do our work.
Michael
What are you talk.
Joe Getty
That guy sounded like we might have had one functioning testicle. That was the only one in the crowd. Holy cow on parade. Wow.
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Joe Getty
AOC was asked how the US should respond to a Taiwan invasion. And she could barely answer the question. In fact, she froze so badly, Mitch McConnell asked if she was okay.
Michael
Wow. So he has an opportunity to take a shot at aoc, but he makes it a shot at really at Mitch McConnell, really an elderly man who's, you.
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Michael
I wonder if this could turn out to be the best thing ever happened. Aoc. Maybe she realized, oh, okay, I gotta really get my act together and, like, really study up and have a staff get her all briefed up on all these different things so she's ready to go to run for president or she's not interested. Like, Kamala Harris didn't seem to be interested in, like, ever learning this stuff.
Joe Getty
More incapable.
Michael
Yeah.
Joe Getty
I mean, I don't think AOC is terribly bright other than a fair amount of verbal skill. But I don't think too many complicated ideas are rattling around in that pretty little header. So let's take a look at a handful of headlines. We can dwell on them as long as you wish or we wish we're dwellers moved swiftly. Well, we may dwell, we may not. Former Penn President Liz McGill, who resigned in disgrace after disastrous anti Semitism testimony, named Dean of Georgetown Law.
Michael
Oh, you've got to be kidding.
Joe Getty
I wish I were.
Michael
No. Wow. She was nationally humiliated and run out of one elite university, goes to maybe a more elite position. Wow.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Unbelievable. There has been practically no progress made in college campuses. There have been a couple of big, you know, much ballyhooed settlements and Trump lawsuits and agreements and stuff like that. But on the ground, the battle has just begun.
Michael
And, you know, I was actually reading about USA Iran negotiations. New York Times, and there's some talk in there that they're willing to halt their efforts to get a nuclear weapon for at least three years, which the New York Times points out is the end of Trump's term. And then they believe there'll likely be a Democratic administration who will be like Biden and Obama and let them do whatever the hell they want. Similar to college campuses in the whole, you know, battle on woke. I'm sure a lot of that crowd thinks we just gotta wait this out for three more years and then, and then nobody's gonna stop us.
Joe Getty
We can teach you. Keep teaching the kids Marxist Marxism. Yeah, absolutely true. Let's see. Oh, to wit, here's another headline. Trump administration sues Harvard for withholding race related data. Admission, admissions data. Rather, Department of Justice sued Harvard accusing the Ivy League school withholding all the admissions data that you could use to figure out whether they're still doing affirmative.
Michael
Action and maybe the most elite university on planet earth is racist in their deciding who gets to go to college there. They base it on race and then they're hiding the information so they don't get sued about it. How do you like that? And they're the ones that lecture us.
Joe Getty
Yeah, exactly. Is it Black Lives Matter 2.0? A Muslim charity has launched an internal review after independent journalists figured out their tax form showed millions raised for Gaza relief flowed to an anti Israel influencer. Prominent Muslim charity is conducting an internal review of its relationship with anti Israel influencer Khaled Baydun as it faces growing questions. Over $2 million it paid to Baidoun for relief initiatives that were advertised as providing water and other aid to the Gaza Strip. So just like Black Lives Matter, a few at the top drained the payments to make themselves rich. Shock, shock, shock. Just unbelievable. Human Appeal usa, which bills itself as America's leading Muslim humanitarian organization, blah, blah, blah. The group, an American offshoot of the UK based Human Appeal, launched the internal review after a firestorm over their 2024 taxes. Okay, there again, I'm just shocked to the core. Moving along. Totally different story. Protectionism and tariffs serve K Street and hurt Main Street. More studies have come out that say all the tariffs are doing is making lobbyists rich. Nearly 500% increase in lobbying revenues tied to tariffs in the fourth quarter of 2025 compared to the fourth quarter of 2024.
Michael
I was unaware of this until the whole tariff regime hit. It makes sense once you, once you, once you're, you know, schooled on it. When you have tariffs becomes all about the carve outs for which. Which company or business product. Product the tariffs don't count for. And so you hire these lobbyists to really appeal to the president. So he decides that everything but this kind of computer chip or this kind of farm product or whatever.
Joe Getty
Right.
Michael
And there's a lot of money in that. And always that's one of the problems with tariffs. It always ends up like this.
Joe Getty
Right, Right. And it always ends up benefiting the big guys. The lobbying field isn't. I'm sorry, the lobbying playing field isn't level either. While big tech, big pharma and the big three automakers have benefited from special tariff exemptions, writes National Review, small businesses like the family owned Fish USA Tackle company in Pennsylvania, the Vermont based women's cycling company, Terry Precision Cycling, a bunch of little companies, in short, don't have the time, money or influence to acquire similar exemptions. Those small businesses are among five plaintiffs receiving pro bono legal services to challenge the legality of the tariffs at the Supreme Court. And then they mentioned that as K Street thrives, Main street pays tariff revenues exploding to nearly $290 billion in 2025, the equivalent of almost $2,200 for every American household. But foreign countries don't pay tariff costs. February report from the Federal Reserve bank in New York estimating that nearly 90% of the tariff's economic burden fell on U.S. firms and consumers. I happen to believe they're true. I think Trump does a lot of things that are great. I think this is absolutely terrible and indefensible and I want him to stop.
Michael
If you need to be in a better mood, The Blade Angels take the ice tonight. Are you familiar with the Blade Angels? Sort of handful of female US Skaters who are being called the Blade Angels and Taylor Swift?
Joe Getty
Not by me, they're not for the record.
Michael
And Taylor Swift is like really into him.
Joe Getty
And oh, I'm allergic to cutesy and now I have hives. You're to blame.
Michael
And now the Blade Angels have been attached to the Showgirl song from her album, song I really like, by the way. And, and so you got the whole Taylor Swift Blade Angels ice skating thing coming together tonight on NBC.
Joe Getty
Yes, I'll be drinking scotch alone in the dark, muttering angrily, thank you. And then why don't we cap off the discussion, Although I've got a dozen more stories that are so interesting. But we've been talking about, and probably will again, the giant social media trial happening in la. Mark Zuckerberg, AKA Satan, will be testifying today right yes, yes.
Michael
He's. I think he's on the stand right now, actually.
Joe Getty
Wow. He.
Michael
They just summoned him up. We would now like to talk to Mark Zuckerberg and poof. And he just appears.
Joe Getty
That's right. Anyway, I absolutely love this. I'm reading your minds, folks. You're thinking, boy, I love posting online. I love offering up my life for other people's entertainment that they actually just scroll through and don't look at anyway. And I've spent my entire life thinking no thing I do or experience has any validity unless I put it online. But you're thinking, the only problem is when I die, I'm not going to be able to post anymore. Well, I have good news for you. Meta was granted a patent in late December that nobody really noticed. That outlines how a large language model can simulate a person's social media activity, such as responding to content posted by real people who are not dead. And I quote. The language model may be used for simulating the user when the user is absent from the social networking system, for example, when the user takes a long break, or if the user is deceased. So you can continue commenting on your friends idiotic vacation pictures after you're dead or when you're, quote, unquote, taking a long break.
Michael
Here's something I was thinking about yesterday. Kind of along those lines. I don't think there's enough attention paid to what becomes of your digital life when you die.
Joe Getty
True.
Michael
I have gazillions of pictures in my phone, some of which I would rather nobody ever saw. Is that a bad idea? I mean, like, if I die, if I get in a car wreck today, does somebody get access to my phone? And if so, why?
Joe Getty
Wow. Wow. There are legitimate law enforcement reasons other than that, man. I'd have to think about it and consult experts. But it's a great question.
Michael
Well, if there's a crime, there's law enforcement reasons.
Joe Getty
Was if I.
Michael
If I just. I have a heart attack and die right now, which I might. I've had a lot of coffee. Does somebody get into my phone? I mean, other than like, Michael bringing it in here, holding it up against my dead face so it unlocks and then scrolling through my.
Joe Getty
Right, right. Yeah. And then we'll post the really filthy stuff online for clicks and likes. Yeah.
Michael
Embarrassing.
Joe Getty
Michael, were you going to say something? No, I was just agreeing with you. Yeah.
Michael
Yeah.
Joe Getty
So here's what you do. You write it into your will. If anybody so much as tries to unlock my phone after I die, every penny goes to the American Nazi Party, all right? Otherwise you kids inherit equally, blah, blah, blah. I'm gonna donate a certain amount of money to Pacific Legal foundation, blah, blah, blah, as I probably will. Every penny goes to the Nazis if anybody messes with me carefully.
Michael
Am I the only one who has photos or text conversations or emails that they'd rather nobody ever saw?
Joe Getty
Oh, no, quite the opposite. Every air sucking Homo sapien on earth has got stuff that is not meant for public consumption or. Or.
Michael
Or their kids or, you know, whoever being aware of. Well, imagine. Just. Just imagine that. Conversations you've had about your kids. Well meaning conversations, but could be very hurtful to them if they got to read them.
Joe Getty
Yes. Yeah.
Michael
That.
Joe Getty
That alone, we've all had to get the experience. For instance. And Katie, feel free to jump in when where somebody we cared about very much was going through something and we misunderstood something from them and blah, blah, blah. And it got worked out in the end. But you don't need all the raw material to come out, right?
Michael
It would be like the Epstein files. You'd get into, you know, just cherry picking stuff. Yes, Katie.
Joe Getty
No, just. If anyone answered no to your question, Jack, they. They're lying.
Michael
Oh, okay, good. I didn't know if I was an outlier on that or actually thought about this yesterday as I was. I have a lot of shirtless selfies in my phone of me.
Joe Getty
Oh, there's a revelation. Oh, there it is.
Michael
So many nips. And it's like. To keep track of my progress. And so I've been working out for three years now, and I can look back at like two years ago. Okay. I'm actually accomplishing something here.
Joe Getty
Sure it is Grinder.
Michael
But I thought if I die and somebody looked at this, I come off as the world's biggest narcissist or something.
Joe Getty
Or a guy on Grindr. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, look, I'm into clown porn. I'm just gonna put it out there right now.
Michael
Right.
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Michael
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Joe Getty
And cleaning your digital house after you pass.
Michael
Yeah. So it doesn't fall into the hands of, you know, Uncle Ed, who you never got along with. And now he's posting everything from your phone or I don't know what happens to your phone.
Joe Getty
You die.
Michael
Seriously. Does somebody throw it away or do they hand it to your, your kid or your wife or whoever's closest to you at the time and all of a sudden they have access to everything. I'm horrified by this.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I, I wouldn't, I would not want that.
Michael
You wouldn't want it to be handled to you, or you wouldn't want to have to hand it to someone else?
Joe Getty
No, I was just going to say if like Judy, God forbid, passes before me, I have no desire to paw through her phone and, and uncover anything. No, I know her to the extent that works for us. If she has aspects of her life or personality that I'm not aware of after all these years, probably for good reason. I'm not worried about it.
Michael
Well, that is a good, healthy, and I'm thinking rare attitude is the problem.
Joe Getty
I am what I am.
Michael
So what do you do about the other people that's why you need a company for that. What happens to your phone? And I don't have that situation. I'm single. My phone just. I get in a car wreck. My phone just laying there on the highway. My head's over there. My phone's over there.
Joe Getty
And let's take a look. Everybody, look.
Michael
It's unlocked. All right, more on the way.
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Michael
We're just discussing what happens to your digital life after you die. Like, if I had a heart attack right now, who. Who has. Who gets my phone and gets access to it? And I would be horrified if various pictures slash information was, you know, just out there available to people. And I don't have a plan for it. Smart people have a plan for these things, but I'm not a smart person, so I don't. A number of people texted that, for instance, if you're the executor of a situation, you get access to it. So like I'm the executor if my parents pass on. But similar to what Joe is just talking about, I have no interest in pawing through my parents emails or stuff like I wouldn't even look at it. I have no interest in doing that. So that would be fine. But you got to have somebody in your life like that, and not everybody does. But then, then somebody brought up to the photos and this is true for me. Okay, so. So even if my kids were like, you know, I'm not gonna look through dad's phone. We don't, but private is private, blah, blah, blah. We'd like all the kids pictures. I got thousands and thousands and thousands of kids pictures in there that aren't anywhere else but in the cloud or on my phone. They're also interspersed with lots of other things. I mean, there'd be no way you could look through those kids photos without coming across the other stuff.
Joe Getty
Stuff. Maybe that's you gotta make albums.
Michael
Maybe that's just an organizational problem. And yeah, I know I Should have, but I never have. God, it would. I can't imagine how many hours that would take at this point to try to even do that.
Joe Getty
Well, just take out your filthy stuff and put it in an album labeled, I don't know, tax forms or something or. Or have it password protected or something.
Michael
Yeah, sounds like a lot of work, boy.
Joe Getty
So you got your erotic selfies together with your kids birthday parties. That's just wrong.
Michael
I just.
Joe Getty
Yeah. What if the one thing leaks into the other? That's just.
Michael
I have all my pictures. The main picture thing. I don't have albums. Yeah, so it's like kids birthday party. Look, there's dog doing something cute shirtless self. Me of. Me of the gym. Then another kid's birthday party. Those are not good to be mixed together like that.
Joe Getty
Do we have more text to get to or. No, I was going to throw in one more thing just from this article I was looking at. They reminded us that you remember there was the replica, an AI chatbot startup up that could imitate granny based on her voice, you know, from videotapes or whatever. Oh, Billy, I'm so glad you made.
Michael
The Little League team.
Joe Getty
Your granny has been gone for three years. And then they got a couple of other ones. Microsoft in patented an AI chatbot that could simulate a deceased person as well as fictional characters or celebrities. Which sounds like fun, but they. They end this with a piece or something. Some thoughts from Joseph Davis, Soc Professor, University of Virginia. He was concerned with the impact that tools like this could have on humans experiencing grief. Quote One of the tasks of grief is to face the actual loss. Let the dead be dead. The idea of bringing them back. But you're not really doing that. But in fact it looks like you are. That's the confusion. That's not healthy.
Michael
I remember playing clips of the time, at the time of this story broke from people that just thought it was wonderful to have have grandma who's been dead for years telling Billy that he did a good job in Little League this year. Think it's weird? You know Billy's gonna need counseling. The only thing I want played at my funeral is a fight between Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise. Just play that and we'll all be happy.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Michael
If you have any thoughts, you can text us. 415295 KFTC. A lot more in hour three. Want to get to that 60 minute story about Ultra processed food, which I think is really important, among other things. If you missed a segment the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand.
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iHeartPodcasts | February 18, 2026
In this dynamic episode, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, and the Armstrong & Getty crew dive into escalating U.S.–Iran tensions, critique modern media coverage of potential war, lampoon the Washington Post newsroom walkout, and explore the weird afterlife of your digital persona. The tone swerves from dead-serious geopolitical analysis to irreverent, mock-cynical banter, with a distinct allergy to “cutesy” culture. A recurring theme is the loss of seriousness in national discourse—whether about war or journalistic self-importance.
Notable Quotes:
Memorable Moment:
The hosts riff on the weak protest chants, with Joe dismissing the would-be-journalistic elite as “half wits and bullies” (21:34).
For listeners new to Armstrong & Getty:
This episode typifies their blend of current events commentary, irreverence, and cultural skepticism—mixing sharp critique, dark humor, and practical musings on the risks of modern life. You’ll leave feeling entertained, occasionally aggravated, and, if you’ve got hundreds of unsorted phone pics, maybe a little well-warned.