I'm Don't Wanna Hear Beowulf!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: I'm Don't Wanna Hear Beowulf!
Date: May 18, 2026
Podcast Host: iHeartPodcasts
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Armstrong and Getty tackle a range of current political, legal, and cultural topics, blending their trademark mix of humor, skepticism, and commentary. The show covers Trump’s international maneuverings and his controversial stance on Taiwan, the logic (or lack thereof) behind modern airline and security protocols, the state of graduate education in America, a viral gesture at the Vatican, and the ongoing Mangione murder case. As always, the hosts skewer media coverage and public trends with biting wit.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Diet Discipline and Human Nature

• Jack reflects on cycles of dieting and self-discipline, pondering why it's so hard to remain consistent.
• Humorous suggestion of a fictional pill, "Disciplex," to maintain discipline (03:56).
  • Quote [04:16]
    Joe Getty: “Take Displex twice a day. You'll have discipline the rest of your life.”
    Jack Armstrong: “If I can remember to take the pill. I don't feel like taking the pill.”

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2. Trump Sues IRS, Then Drops Suit

• Trump sued the IRS over leaked tax records, which hosts agree was "outrageous" and justified a suit.
• The lawsuit was dropped in exchange for an apology and the creation of a $2 billion fund (apparently run by Trump) for victims of government "weaponization" (04:27–05:49).
  • Quote [05:10]
    Joe Getty: “The Democrats routinely weaponize the IRS. It’s outrageous.”
  • Quote [05:14]
    Jack Armstrong: “He sued and now he's dropped that suit in exchange for an apology and about a $2 billion fund... that might include him, people in his family, January 6 protesters. Nobody knows how they're going to use the fund.”

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3. Trump, China, and the Taiwan Arms Deal

A Pivotal and Controversial Segment

• Trump’s approach to China and Taiwan is discussed after his summit with President Xi, with particular focus on ambiguity about supplying weapons to Taiwan (07:50–13:21).
• Joe Getty expresses serious concern about Trump using the Taiwan arms deal as a "negotiating chip", breaking with decades of American policy.
  • Quote [10:41]
    Joe Getty: “If you announce that something is a bargaining chip, you’re signaling to the other side... It is on the table in a way that it’s never ever been in American foreign policy before. That’s really troubling to me.”
• Jack suggests Trump may simply be speaking a tough truth – that the US is unlikely to actually go to war with China for Taiwan – but notes the messaging might be dangerous nonetheless.
  • Quote [12:42]
    Joe Getty: “The counter ... is that you don't communicate that to China. You keep them guessing about your true intentions."
  • Quote [15:06]
    Jack Armstrong: “Would we protect [Taiwan]? ... Every single one of them [National Review panel] said no, regardless of president. I think that might be the reality.”
• Discussion expands to the global economic fallout if China takes Taiwan and the limitations of US military power in such a scenario (15:29–16:24).

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4. Media Clickbait and Court Cases: The Mangione Saga

• The hosts unpack chaotic and conflicting coverage of the Luigi Mangione murder trial, critiquing how the press spins legal nuances into misleading headlines (22:34–23:49, 28:08–29:49, 43:41–44:47).
  • Quote [29:03]
    Jack Armstrong: “They’re gonna present it whatever way they think is gonna get more people to click on it.”
  • Notable moment: Joe and Jack deride the "hot women in court" phenomenon, where female spectators flock to the trial for the defendant’s looks, expressing horror at both the media and the culture (29:27–30:22).
• They update listeners on the legal battle over suppressed and admitted evidence, finally clarifying the confusing headlines: evidence seized illegally (at McDonald's) was suppressed, but evidence taken later with a warrant at the police station is admissible.

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5. Airline Anecdotes and Security Theater

• Joe shares annoyances from a recent flight, including a “five minute delay” caused by pilot rest rules (31:33–32:52) and losing his TSA PreCheck status, leading to a "full crotchal search" – humorously recounted (33:09).
• Discussion of a new pilot program: off-site TSA screenings with shuttles at Boston Logan Airport (33:36–34:24).
• Riffs on airport lines, status programs, and the psychological satisfaction (or not) of “cutting the line” (35:12–35:50).
  • Quote [35:33]
    Jack Armstrong: “I want other people to have to wait and I walk by. Damn it. I'm not getting anything out of this.”

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6. Cultural Trends: The Viral ‘67’ Gesture & Movie Cameos

• Pop culture oddity: The "67 hand gesture" goes viral—even the Pope does it (20:01–20:28), which baffles the hosts and marks how quickly memes move.
• Jack praises “Marty Supreme” on HBO Max and the humor of inserting meme-celebs in film cameos, e.g., "low voiced bum" (20:28–22:07).

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7. America’s Bourbon Glut and Alcohol Trends

• Kentucky faces a ten-year bourbon surplus (“ocean of alcohol”) because drinking, especially hard liquor, has decreased post-pandemic.
• Speculates on reasons: pandemic boozing spike, GLP-1 weight loss meds dulling alcohol reward, and younger generations drinking less due to greater caution or fearfulness (37:56–39:21).
  • Quote [38:44]
    Joe Getty: "The GLP1s — it reduces the emotional payoff of having a drink."
  • Quote [39:08]
    Joe Getty: "The kids are so fearful these days. They're so cautious... I think that may be a factor too.”

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8. Master’s Degrees: Overvalued and Inflated?

• Explores the proliferation of master's programs, noting it’s no longer a clear job guarantee (45:09–48:31).
• Unemployment for master’s grads is way up, unlike doctorates and professional degrees; a form of “degree inflation.”
  • Quote [46:54]
    Jack Armstrong: “…so many people started going to college and getting their worthless easy degrees that the only way you could separate yourself was to get the master's degree.”
  • Quote [47:06]
    Joe Getty: “It’s a form of inflation. They flooded the market with A’s, which lowered the value of those A’s. So now you need more currency. A master's degree."
  • Quote [40:02]
    Joe Getty (episode title): “Congratulations. No, I don't want to hear Beowulf. Save it. Keep it to yourself. And neither does anybody else, by the way.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On discipline pills:
  Joe Getty [04:16]: “Take Displex twice a day. You'll have discipline the rest of your life.”
  Jack Armstrong: “If I can remember to take the pill!”

• On Trump and foreign policy:
  Joe Getty [10:41]: “...It is on the table in a way that it’s never ever been in American foreign policy before. That’s really troubling to me.”

• On clickbait headlines:
  Jack Armstrong [29:03]: “Whatever they think is the most clickbaity headline, clickety click, there you go.”

• On master's degrees:
  Joe Getty [40:02]: “Congratulations. No, I don't want to hear Beowulf. Save it. Keep it to yourself. And neither does anybody else, by the way.”

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Segment Timestamps (MM:SS)

• 03:02 — Jack’s diet discipline musings
• 04:27 — Trump suing/dropping IRS suit and media coverage
• 07:50 — Trump, Xi summit, Taiwan, and arms deal
• 10:41 — Joe’s major concern about Trump’s “bargaining chip” on Taiwan
• 13:21 — American resolve & the true US stance on Taiwan
• 22:34 — Mangione trial, media clickbait, hot women in court
• 28:08 — Clickbait and clarifying Mangione case evidence rulings
• 31:33 — Joe’s flight story, arbitrary airline delays
• 33:09 — Joe’s TSA "full crotchal search"
• 34:18 — Offsite airport security screening pilot program
• 35:12 — Airport lines and status envy
• 37:56 — Bourbon surplus and generational drinking trends
• 40:02 — Rant on master’s degrees and inflation in higher ed

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Tone & Style

Armstrong and Getty maintain an irreverent, sardonic, and skeptical tone throughout. They blend detailed discussion of serious topics with playful banter and pointed media criticism. Their delivery leans into “common sense” realism, never shying from calling out perceived absurdities in American culture, media, and politics.

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For Listeners:

This episode is especially rich for those interested in American politics and foreign policy, contemporary legal dramas, cultural trends, and the realities behind clickbait headlines. Jack and Joe’s analysis will be particularly engaging if you enjoy critique of mainstream narratives and a sharp, humorous take on current events.

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Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Yo.

[Jack Armstrong]

How was your weekend? Good. Glad to hear it. I'm in one of those zones for eating, right. I don't know. I've always been able to do this. I just can't. I can't do it on command. But if I get into the. And this might be human nature, everyone. If I get into, like, locked into a. Dieting, then saying no to the bad stuff and eating, you know, below my 2,000 calories a day and everything like that is, like, effortless. And it feels like I'll never not do this. It seems so easy.

[Joe Getty]

Finally.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, I'm locked in. I have been for several weeks, and I was the lowest weight yesterday I've been in a year. And I thought, I know from experience at this point, I need to realize that at some point the dam will break. I'll say yes to a piece of pie or something like that. And then, you know, and then I'll go back to my discipline. As soon as I do that, and then it's just gone.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why does that happen that way?

[Joe Getty]

You'd be like a pie junkie back on the streets begging strangers for a

[Jack Armstrong]

little crust or exercise. You get in the groove, exercising. And you think, well, I'll just do this the rest of my life now. I'm doing it every day. And then you get out of the habit and you can't get back in. I wonder if they'll ever solve that riddle of.

[Joe Getty]

Or put it better yet, put it in a pill.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anywho, I want.

[Joe Getty]

Take Displex twice a day. You'll have discipline the rest of your life.

[Jack Armstrong]

Disciplex.

[Joe Getty]

That's right. If I can remember to take the pill. I don't feel like taking the pill.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's funny. We got some important stuff to get to. But are you following this whole thing about Trump suing the IRS and dropping the suit? ABC had the exclusive on this yesterday and they made it like most of ABC this Week. Now all other news outlets are kind of catching up on that. Do you know this story? No.

[Joe Getty]

I spent all day yesterday on airplanes, and so I'm only dimly aware of the story.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I'll just give an overview because we're going to do something else. But Trump was suing the irs perfectly legitimately. Nobody mentions this in any of the stories from left wing media. He should be suing the IRS for that leak of his taxes that they never chased down. Really? And nobody got really punished or anything like that. That was outrageous.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, the Democrats routinely weaponize the irs. It's, it's outrageous.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was outrageous that they leaked his, his personal taxes just to try to damage him. And, and he sued and now he's dropped that suit in exchange for an apology. And about a $2 billion fund that I guess he runs on his own for victims of government weaponization that he can give out money to people he feels like were weaponized by the government that might include him, people in his family. January, six protesters. Nobody knows exactly how they're gonna use the fund.

[Joe Getty]

So I'd really like to see the paperwork on that plan. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

So maybe we'll get into that more later. That's an interesting story.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, everybody's grifting.

[Jack Armstrong]

The war in Iran wanted to touch on this just real quick because he put out a truth social post yesterday that caused the markets to go down today and oil to go up and all that sort of stuff. Yesterday, President Trump posted a new thread on social media for Iran. The clock is ticking and they better get, get better get moving fast in all caps or there won't be anything left of them, he wrote. And then in all caps again, time is of the essence.

[Joe Getty]

All right, more threats, which made me

[Jack Armstrong]

want to look up the phrase time of the essence is of the essence. I was thinking, is that Shakespeare or where did that come from? This is interesting. It comes out of English contract law going way, way, way back to the beginning of common law. The core idea being that timing is not just important, it is an essential part of an agreement itself. Sometimes if something is supposed to happen by a certain date and it doesn't, then that failure can count as a serious breach of contract because time is of the essence.

[Joe Getty]

It's. It's one of the fundamental terms. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Isn't that interesting? I didn't know that.

[Joe Getty]

It doesn't necessarily mean hurry up.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, it just means.

[Joe Getty]

That does mean get her done.

[Jack Armstrong]

It uses the example of a house sale contract that if it doesn't happen by a certain date, it causes the person all kinds of financial harm and everything like that. So it's not just a random date. Time is of the essence.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I love looking up expressions like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

The general expression meaning, this is urgent. Delays matter.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll be damned.

[Joe Getty]

How literary of you. Well done, sir.

[Jack Armstrong]

Different topic. So Trump is in China all week long and the Trump hating media had to go with no deliverables all week long, even though regularly presidents have summits when there are no deliverables as they're defining them for years and years and years until a deliverable finally happens. So it's a stupid critique.

[Joe Getty]

Anywho, there's silly window dressing. You know, that happens a lot.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was watching some of some analysts like Freed Zakaria on cnn, who is no, no Trump fan, said he thought this was really good. He thought Trump flattering g and being nice and everything like that was really good for the world and good for our relationship and us trying to get what we want. So I, the beholder, I guess this I found a little disturbing. So Trump sat down with Brett Baer of Fox to do an interview at the end of the week. This is after the summit, I think it was on Air Force One, but this was a little rundown. They got into a bunch of different topics. But Brett asked him about Taiwan, and this is his whole answer.

[Donald Trump]

Should the people of Taiwan feel more or less secure after your meetings with President Xi? Neutral.

[Jack Armstrong]

Has the policy changed at all?

[Donald Trump]

No, nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

U.S. policy.

[Donald Trump]

But you're waiting on approving billions of dollars of weapons for Taiwan. Is that moving forward? Well, I haven't approved it yet. We're going to see what happens. What do you look, I may do it, I may not do it. Yeah. What's your. Your hinge? Well, I'm not going to say that, but I may do it, I may not do it. But we're not looking to have wars. And if you kept it the way it is, I think China is going to be okay with that. But we're not looking to have somebody say, let's go independent because the United States is backing us, you know, so

[Joe Getty]

President Xi probably liked that you haven't approved the weapons to Taiwan.

[Donald Trump]

I would say like is maybe too strong a word because he thinks I could do it with just the signing of my signature. Unlike Biden, who couldn't sign his signature. No, I'm holding that in abeyance. And it depends on China. It depends. It's a very good negotiating chip for us, frankly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. There's a key piece of that interview missing there in which Trump says we're not going to go, you know, 10,000 miles away to the other side of the world because somebody wants to be independent or something. I wish I had the exact phrasing because that was what I wanted to talk about, but that sure sounds to Me like Trump kind of doing the Russia, Ukraine thing where, hey, you're a little guy. Little guys get swallowed up by big guys. What do you want to do? Don't be a little guy. And I don't, you know, people who freaked out about this, I think that was appropriate. How do you look at it any other way? How is it a bargaining chip? We're going to give. We, we made a deal to sell a whole bunch of weapons to Taiwan so they could defend themselves.

[Joe Getty]

And we're not looking to China.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Against China, which is obviously the whole point. President Xi said at the beginning of the week, look, this is my number one issue. Taiwan belongs to China, number one issue. Then at the end of the week, Trump says, yeah, maybe we will, maybe we won't. Maybe I'll sign it, maybe I won't. I don't know. It's a pretty good bargaining chip. Well, bargaining chip suggests that perhaps we're not going to sell weapons to Taiwan if we get something else unrelated.

[Joe Getty]

I would say, yeah, it's at least that bad or significant if you want to stay neutral on it in that if, if you announce that something is a bargaining chip, you're signaling to the other side. Look, I know you really, really want this. Put together an offer, an exchange that includes this. And it is on the table in a way that it's never ever been in American foreign policy before. Yeah, that's, that's really troubling to me. I don't. Maybe some of you. And feel free to drop us a note. Maybe you text us 415295 kftc or email mail bag@armstrong and getty.com. the whole Trump is the master deal maker and the negotiator and his instincts and all. I'm starting to feel really shaky about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I have a pushback against that, but absolutely. Lindsey Graham was on the talk shows yesterday talking very, very hawkish, Lindsey Graham style. I do declare about. No, no, no, no. We, we need to make it very clear because it is true if China moves on Taiwan, they are in a war with the United States, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I don't know if he did that to like fill in what Trump left out or, or, you know, who knows, who knows why. But that is at least Lindsey Graham's position on it. And the thing with Trump in terms of being the master negotiator, he might just realize the truth, which is a key to negotiating living in reality. We ain't gonna fight China in a full on war to keep Them from taking Taiwan, no way, no how, which might just be the truth. Whether it was Trump, Bush, Obama, Biden, whoever, if it came down to it, and he's thinking, might as well get something for this, cuz we ain't, you know, why, why, why come up with a fake threat? I can get something for this. I'm gonna try to get something for this.

[Joe Getty]

Well, the counter to that, which I happen to believe firmly is that you don't, you don't communicate that to China. You keep them guessing about your true intentions. That's how you run a negotiation. You don't lay your cards on the table until you have to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, he didn't say we're not going to sell the weapons. He said maybe I will, maybe I won't. So, so that's, that's the ambiguity, I think.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I think that might be the nose. Now he knows.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think that might be the truth though. I think it might be the truth that no, we are not going to go to war to protect Taiwan. You'd have to really sell that to the American people. We were talking to Mike Lyons about this. You know what that war would look like?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it'd be awful from our perspective.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it could be. Would it go nuclear or not? That's its open question. But even if it didn't go nuclear, Mike Lines was talking about, do we want to trade a West coast city for Taiwan if we have to? I mean that's.

[Joe Getty]

Do I get to choose which one? Let's not be hasty here again. You want to deal in reality, let's deal in reality. I got a list.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, but if you can't get the American people going on stopping Iran and the nut jobs there from getting a nuclear weapon, how are you going to trade Los Angeles or San Francisco for protecting Taiwan? People say, where's Taiwan? What's Taiwan?

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[Jack Armstrong]

I just always remember this conversation I heard them have on the National Review podcast. This is a whole bunch of pretty hawkish conservative people. And they had the, they asked the question a year or so ago, would we protect if China tries to take Taiwan, would we fight China for it? And every single one of them said no, no, regardless of president, I think that might be the reality.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which is bad. That would be horribly bad for the world you go through. I mean, you think the Strait of Hormuz being closed interrupts the commercial traffic around the world. Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

I was just going to say there could easily be a worldwide depression for a significant amount of time if China moves. Which is why I'm a fan of the strategic ambiguity, which I realize is not a magic potion or magic spell to keep China away. I just. They're calculating bastards, them commies. And the calculations have now changed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Magic potion would be cool. It'd be like that was that thing you invented earlier in the segment.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, Displex disciplex.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I need that as a magic

[Joe Getty]

potion pill that makes you disciplined. Yeah, yeah. And the idea of we'd get something big from China in return for telling them. Yeah, you go ahead and pressure Taiwan into capitulating Hong Kong style. What would we get?

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump would do it for some sort of deal on tariffs or a car trade or something like that.

[Joe Getty]

They would start cheating on it immediately. Then the moment he left office, ignore it completely.

[Jack Armstrong]

We got a lot more on the way. If you're about as valuable as a

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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He was discovered on a like like

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in the median, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Begging for cash with a sign will do headlines for money or something like that because he had such a great low voice and then America fell in love with him for a while. Look at this bum with the great voice. He should get a radio job and then some radio station offered him money because it was such a good stunt and everything like that.

[Joe Getty]

As we pointed out at the time, there are hundreds of thousands of former radio guys out of work because changes in the industry. Non bums quick job with a Kraft macaroni and cheese, right? That's right. He did their slug and then he got caught fornicating with his his woman in a tire store parking lot as I recall.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's right. That's right. That was a low point. Anyway, what is funny? What a Funny cameo to throw into a movie. That's a sense of humor. Who's some random person in an unimportant little tiny part that we could throw into a movie just to make people slap their headway. Wait a second, Isn't that the guy?

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

They should start doing that in movies more often where you just take random like made the news for a day meme type people and put them in tiny little parts just to keep our interest.

[Joe Getty]

The huckpatooie girl serves drinks to the table and walks away unrecognized.

[Jack Armstrong]

Perfect, perfect example. The bartender is the hawk to a girl.

[Joe Getty]

Oh Lordy, this is not getting better. The future is not getting better.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is there something important going on in the Mangione case today? They're acting like it is. Or is it just starting there? They're gonna show all the evidence and they're asking the question, will the evidence be thrown out? And I'm feeling like it's one of those click baity sort of headlines where no, it won't. There's not a chance of it.

[Joe Getty]

So I suspect that pretty strongly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's the scumbag who murdered the United Healthcare executive. You remember that story? And he's good looking, so some people are in favor of him getting to murder people.

[Joe Getty]

I guess those people should lose the vote permanently. Forever. Exactly. It's the whole affluent youngsters looking for meaning in their life and deciding that they're going to be an assassin.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, got a headline. Luigi Mangione scoring a partial victory in court as a judge rules that evidence recovered from the alleged killer's backpack at McDonald's must be suppressed. According to the ruling that evidence includes a gun, magazine, cell phone, et cetera. So they did okay. They're not going to be able to use some of that stuff, including a alleged confession note that was in his backpack. So they won't be able to use that in the case. They'll still have plenty to convict him, won't they?

[Joe Getty]

I would think so. Sure. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get the video and the cops and the everything. Anyway, we'll keep our eye on that and a whole bunch of other stuff. Stay tuned. Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

that in 1970 men had twice the

[Joe Getty]

sperm count as our teenagers do today.

[Jack Armstrong]

The teenage sperm counts were measured at the.

[Joe Getty]

You sure this is Legal Institute? Oh, boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's actually a damned interesting story. The fact that men's sperm count has dropped so much over 50 years and nobody has any idea why.

[Joe Getty]

But if it were elephants or antelopes, it'd be on the headline I've ever heard on the COVID of every science website.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I did a breaking news right before the commercials, and I, I feel like that that was the opposite of what actually happened. I mean, I, I read it and it said. Didn't it say specifically that it was a break for Luigi Mangione's defense team? Anyway, the breaking news is Luigi Mangione, prosecutors can use a gun and notebook as evidence from his McDonald's arrest, delivering a bloat to his defense, which I think is the opposite of what I said before the commercial break. So I don't know if they just

[Joe Getty]

had the reading from Reuters. Justice Gregory Caro of the New York State Court in Manhattan granted Mangioni's request to suppress evidence found in his backpack during his arrest, ruling police unlawfully searched the bag without a warrant in Pennsylvania.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, well, then we have dueling headlines, and they're 180 degrees apart, it sounds like. And we'll try to figure out which one is true. Yeah, no, everybody, cnn, everybody's going with prosecutors can use gun and notebook while others are saying the opposite. We'll look into it later.

[Joe Getty]

Well, now there's another backpack, too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh.

[Joe Getty]

So it's too hard to analyze without the facts. That's my slogan. Yes. Okay, so we'll try to figure it out, Judge.

[Jack Armstrong]

Items recovered at station not suppressed. According to fox.

[Joe Getty]

Items. Where? Items. What?

[Jack Armstrong]

Items recovered at station. Okay, I see what they're doing.

[Joe Getty]

The other backpack.

[Jack Armstrong]

So they're looking at two different things and going with whatever they think is the most exciting headline. So some people think it's been suppressed as the most exciting headline, looking like he might get off. And then others are thinking that, okay, so that's what we're dealing with here. Whatever they think is the most clickbaity headline, clickety click, there you go.

[Joe Getty]

Everything's clickety click. That's right. That's right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I should have figured that out right off the bat. They're gonna put. They're gonna present it. Whatever they think is gonna get more people to click on it.

[Joe Getty]

All right?

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[Joe Getty]

So as soon as the facts are known. Actually, I think most of the facts are. Some of the evidence is in Some of it's out. And the prosecution has pointed out that they have a wealth of evidence of all sorts. And I can absolutely see the judge and I haven't watched the video of the arrest in Pennsylvania for months and months and months where he's sitting there in the McDonald's with his hoodie on and everything.

[Jack Armstrong]

But you can see his cute, cute eyebrows.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, for the love.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's how they recognize them. There's a bunch of hot chicks waiting to get in the courtroom. I just saw the picture of young, hot women in their short skirts in line to get in the courtroom because they're hoping to catch the eye of this guy and date him or. I don't know what's going on there, you flipping nut job jobs. God, I don't know what I would do if that was my daughter. Well, I would think I'd failed. That's what I would think.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, well, you would be correct. Yeah. Round them up, get their names, deny them the vote for the rest of their lives. That's all I ask.

[Donald Trump]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why are you dressed like you're trying to get a date to get into the courtroom to watch a cold blooded murderer crazy person have a minor ruling?

[Joe Getty]

Well, yeah, exactly. I was going to say it's not even the trial. It's just a bunch of attorneys bandying about legal theories over a notebook.

[Jack Armstrong]

But he's there with his cute eyebrows and he's wearing a jacket today. And he looks very handsome.

[Joe Getty]

So show a little thigh girls looking

[Jack Armstrong]

at him right now. Very handsome.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. All right, those wearing underwear to the right, please. Those not wearing underwear to the left. The bailiff should say, it's just. It's ridiculous, you weirdos. Yeah, round them up. I'm telling you, get their names. So, a couple of things very quickly. I was traveling yesterday on and off airplanes all day, which is even when it goes perfectly. Film festival.

[Jack Armstrong]

You went to the Cannes Film Festival?

[Joe Getty]

Yes, yes. And my G6 was late, so I had to borrow Johnny Depp's. And now I owe him. And you know how Johnny is when you owe him something. He's so needy. Well, no, I'm sorry. I flew the regular way, but a couple of interesting things. Number one, and the crew knows this story. I get to the. Well, I checked the app and it said, yeah, your flight is delayed. And I'm like, ah, crap. And I noticed it's delayed by five minutes. I'm like, five minutes. And I get to the airport, I go to the gate, and sure enough, there it is up on the delayed now departing five minutes later. And I look in, the plane's right there. And so I just. I'm overcome with curiosity. And so I went and asked the nice lady at the gate, I say, hey, look, it's strictly out of curiosity, but five minute delay. What does that even mean? Right with the plane right there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Since it taking off or leaving always can be within, you know, 10, 15, 20 minutes of whatever the time it was supposed to be.

[Joe Getty]

Sure. If you're waiting for the food, tell them, hurry your asses up and you know, and it'll get there. And then it's just a two minute delay. How do you know it's a five minute delay? She said, that's an excellent question. The. The cruise mandatory rest period was just a little bit overlapping the flight. So to conform with federal regulations and. Or the union rules or whatever. Yeah, we got to say, yeah, we're not taking off till. Yeah, 7:25. Yeah, that's when we're taking off. Sure it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wish some sort of real patience patients. Why did I say patients? Because I think about doctors a lot. Flyers, bill of rights thing could be victims. Victims. Yeah. Some sort of flyers, bill of rights thing could be written and figure out those. Those stupid standards. To me, it's the classic Goodharts law. As soon as a measure becomes a goal, it ceases to be good a measure. And then because that's how you end up sitting on the tarmac for an hour is because, well, we get to count this as a departure if we don't get off the plane. Okay, well, that screws everybody. And. But you get to write down in your little thing that you departed, which you didn't. So let's stop doing this nonsense.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

We've departed. In what sense? We are still in Omaha.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. So, interesting note from the world of airline screening. After I need to tell you this, I accidentally let my TSA PreCheck status expire like an idiot. And so I had to get screened with the poor people, the common people. Some of you may even be listening now.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think it's a poor thing. I think it's together thing.

[Joe Getty]

It was humiliating. I was afraid one of them might touch me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael.

[Joe Getty]

I had to remove my belt. It was absolutely terrible, actually. For some reason, I set off the thingy and they had to go full crotchal search on me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Well, you do.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe the fella just found me handsome.

[Jack Armstrong]

You have that look. You look malevolent.

[Joe Getty]

Angrily muttering verses from the. I probably shouldn't say that. Anyway, so there's a pilot program going on right now where they're doing it in Boston. Passengers catching morning flights out of Boston's Logan International Airport, go through a TSA screening outpost like in the next town, and then get shuttled to the airport where they're dropped off behind the security checkpoint, avoiding crowded parking lots, the chaotic curbsides, the flight check in lines, and the rest of it off site security screening, then with a shuttle to take you to the airport.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's interesting.

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[Jack Armstrong]

I like thinking outside the box.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Now in some super airports, it's super busy times a day. They could open up every single line. And sometimes they do, and it's still busier than hell. But often when the lines are bad and all, I'm looking around thinking, why don't you open the rest of these dealios? It's like at the grocery store, it's five o' clock at night, they got two lines open. Yeah. Anyway, passengers are able to check in and drop their bags at the remote terminal in Framingham, Massachusetts, which is 25 miles away, I think housed in a newly constructed temporary building. Then there's this company that ferries you by coach bus from smaller airports to major hubs in cities like Chicago and Philadelphia. Off site screening, security screening. Some airports are going with private companies again, not having the government do it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got screwed by Southwest a couple of years ago and so they gave me some sort of like 5 year A preferred member status thingy to try to make me less angry. So I get to go through a special line fast or whatever like that. I'm always disappointed when I get to an airport. There's no line.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't get any benefit from this whatsoever.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I want other people to have to wait and I walk by. Damn it. I'm not getting anything out of this.

[Joe Getty]

Like I said, now you have to rub elbows with the grubby.

[Jack Armstrong]

What a weird, selfish impulse that is. But I actually have that feeling. There's not even a line, so I don't even get any benefit.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. That is funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is. That's a weird, unhealthy human tendency.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry, can you slow down the poor people line, please, so we can feel better about ourselves. So our status means something totally different. Consumer issue. I found interesting. The heart of the bourbon world, Kentucky, usa, is sitting on a ginormous backlog of bourbon because drinking has slowed down. So especially drinking the hard liquors.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's shocking to me. That so many people decided at the same time to go back on drinking.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe you drink too much bourbon and you hang out with drunk ne' er do wells and they decide to come rob you.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So did we. People started drinking. I don't drink, so I have to just read about this stuff. So people started drinking more during the pandemic. We read a lot. So did you.

[Joe Getty]

There was also a bourbon craze that started like 2012.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just wondered if. I just wondered if all your booze manufacturers ramped up thinking that would last a while and when people went back to the normal drinking levels. But that's not the case.

[Joe Getty]

That that did contribute because, yeah, people. The boozing, they think, peaked in 2022 to your point. Yeah, indeed. That was that 31.2 million cases period. Yeah. People were getting their drink on during COVID and they cite a number of Factors. Just the GLP1s. It reduces the emotional payoff of having a drink.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's an interesting nugget.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I know, it's crazy. They talk about thc laced drinks that the youngsters drink and you get no hangover. Theoretically. And just trends. Trends. I read a great Think piece and I think there's a lot of truth to it. I haven't seen it repeated, but. But the kids are so fearful these days. They're so cautious.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

They always want to be in control. They can't even call for a freaking pizza, never mind getting drunk with their friends. And I think that may be a factor too. But they have a 10 year supply of bourbon just sitting in cases in Kentucky.

[Jack Armstrong]

10 year backup.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Just the industry is gutted.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, maybe when the worldwide depression and World War III hit, we'll go back to drinking a lot. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I certainly will do my share. You know, I was going to get to the fact that a master's degree is no longer the job guarantee it used to be. I found it very, very interesting until I came across the example of a master's degree in social work.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was it a guarantee at some point?

[Joe Getty]

It was a pretty good guarantee.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't know that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but they did. They weren't judgmental enough in this article in the Journal about what master's degree.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is one of the many, many big mistakes all around. College stuff is to talk about a college degree, a master's degree, whatever, as if they're all the same.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Like they're interchangeable. Please. You got a master's in medieval poetry. Congratulations. No, I don't want to hear Beowulf. Save it. Keep it to yourself. And neither does anybody else, by the way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good example.

[Joe Getty]

We'll get to that later.

[Jack Armstrong]

An engineering masters. Yeah, Completely different freaking thing. Flump them all together is just plain stupid. Actually, you're doing it on purpose to kind of fudge the numbers is what you're doing. Okay, we got a lot more on the way. Stay here. Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

I hate the media so much media environment. So I was misled by some clickbait earlier this hour on the whole Mangioni trial. Cause I saw the headline items suppressed in court case against Mangione. Then the full reading seeming to be coming out later that okay, some of it was suppressed, but the important stuff is allowed, so whatever.

[Joe Getty]

And maybe not even that. Straight from Judge Larry, who's busy with his new grandbaby, Katie's dad. Federal judge has already ruled in favor of the prosecution in the federal case against the dirt bag. The New York judge ruled that the search of the bag at the McDonald's was illegal, but the search of the same bag when they got back to the police station was legal. So it's a whole lot of, a whole lot to do about nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's interesting. I almost want to drill down on that. So they weren't allowed to look in the bag at the McDonald's, but they were when they got to the police station.

[Joe Getty]

And you know, I wasn't listening to hearing, but I think that the coppers probably said, well, yeah, we got back and we got the warrant to search the bag properly. And well, then we would have done

[Jack Armstrong]

anyway whoever wrote the headline. And I think it was New York Post of evidence suppressed according to judge, you should be drummed out of all, all media. That was obviously designed to mislead. And I hate that I've got the most misleading headline, one of the most I've ever seen coming in hour three. We can talk about.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Okay, interesting. So back to the whole question of grad school. Going back to grad school has long been the plan B of young professionals. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you know that Shaq got his master's degree over the weekend? Walked across the stage. I just saw it up on the tv. Got his master's degree from lsu and I just did a little research on it. He got a, a liberal arts degree. It's a one year thing he did online. That would be very, very little work and not very rigorous at all. And I don't even know what we're doing anymore, really with college. I don't even know what we're doing.

[Joe Getty]

I'm so tempted to get one of those puffery degrees that make me look all learned and all. But then I think, for who? What do I care? Wow. So new data shows. Oh, it's long been the plan be for young professionals who aspire to clim higher in their careers or are struggling to get promoted in a tough job market. New data shows that getting a master's degree isn't the guarantee it used to be. Okay, all right, everything's clickbait. Yeah, it's because getting a master's degree isn't what it used to be. And they go, how the, go into how. The unemployment rate for workers under 35 with a master's degree has almost never been higher in the last 20 years. At the same time, the unemployment rate for workers under 35 with a PhD law degree or medical degree degree has rarely been lower. And they have a theory, this economist they talked to about why this is. And he says, yeah, you got more degrees chasing fewer of the positions those degrees were meant to unlock. And then the key fact. Master's degree programs have proliferated over the past two decades, increasing 69% since 2005.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's pretty obvious why so many people started going to college and getting their worthless easy degrees that the only way you could separate yourself from that crowd was to get the master's degree. Right.

[Joe Getty]

It's, it's a form of inflation. And it has the same effect since they have inflated the currency of education by lowering the standards for grades. It's all. They flooded the market with A's, which lowered the value of those A's. So now you need more currency. A master's degree, it's exactly like monetary inflation. How interesting it is. But there are now more than 33,000 master's degrees programs kicking around alongside traditional master's degrees in business administration, for instance, there are now online MBAs and special one year business degrees in data science and healthcare management, among other specialties. Plus, more workers have opted to go back to school for advanced degrees in social work and, you know, similar stuff, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was, I was in an MBA program for half of it back in the 80s. It was rigorous, but that was, geez, that's 40 years ago. Things have changed a lot in the last nearly half a century.

[Joe Getty]

How many master's degrees could you not learn everything you need to know with a real undergrad degree and two years on the job?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I, I don't know. I mean, I don't want to hurt people's feelings because there's people having to send their kids to them or whatever, but there are so many worthless, and I'm not even exaggerating with that word, worthless degrees floating around and that they have no words. Armstrong. And get.

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