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Judge swings and misses. And Italy has pulled off a stunner. The biggest win in Italian baseball history. They shock the United States eight to six.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, so that's Aaron Judge, one of the best baseball players in the world and of all time, maybe striking out to end the game against a team they should have beaten easily. Bryce Harper, who gets paid like a quarter of a billion dollars, also had men on and a chance to take the lead and fly it out. Simple. Some of the biggest stars. And as it said the New York Post, the 2026 Olympics had plenty of upsets and surprises. But Tuesday night's World Baseball Classic may have produced the most shocking international upset of the entire year. And Team USA was on the wrong side of it. Italy jumped out to an 8 nothing lead.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
We clawed her back away, back to 8 6, but lost. The manager of the team, I don't know his name, but had said, I basically consider us in the middle round before the game because Italy was going to be so easy to beat, which
Joe Getty
is not the sort of thing God's
Jack Armstrong
heard that you should never say that sort of thing. And then they lost and, and now Mexico has got to beat somebody by like four runs or more or something to pull us into the medal round. So I'm not exactly sure how that works, but we don't even determine our own fate at this point. That's disappointing.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it is. It's. I don't love the format of the tournament just because of the nature of baseball. As we discussed briefly earlier, you can have one team that's clearly superior to the other and is going to beat him in the World Series, say four to one. But if the first game is that one game that the inferior team wins in this tournament, well, the, the other team is just screwed because you can have, you know, a great pitcher, just not have his stuff that nobody knows why. I pitched for years and years and some days you felt like a world beater and you just couldn't do it. And some days you'd go out thinking, oh God, and you'd just be masterful. And that's why baseball's so interesting. But that's also why they play a lot of games.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Anyway, what are you gonna do?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, well, it's a national humiliation and I really think we gotta send the Marines into Italy, take their oil.
Joe Getty
Well, I think probably jail the turncoats when they come back to our shores.
Jack Armstrong
Aaron Judge.
Joe Getty
Yeah, or you're loyal. I hope you enjoy Leavenworth, Aaron. Gonna have to get him an extra large cell. I'm not sure he'd fit in a regular one.
Jack Armstrong
Speaking of war, and I don't know that I advocate a war against Italy. Trump said this is new, said the war will end soon. Practically nothing left to target and the war will end when I say it's over. So he just told Axios that the war will end when I say it's over. I still think it's on the table for him to pull the plug on it just out of nowhere like soon and declare it over and then not.
Joe Getty
Not though if they're still threatening the Strait of Hormuz.
Jack Armstrong
Do have to get that opened up somehow.
Joe Getty
Yeah, and like open so people believe it's open.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know what it is now, but the other day there were a thousand ships lined up waiting to go through. That number's probably a lot bigger now and. And they ain't going to go through unless they feel like they can keep their sailors safe and probably more importantly, unfortunately, their ship and their oil that the billions of dollars that are that are on the line there.
Joe Getty
Although if we fully insured that, it would still be a paperwork nightmare and it'd take a while to get your funds.
Jack Armstrong
But the doomsday plane, I mentioned this a little bit ago. The doomsday plane has been spotted flying over Northern California. That's the flying White House that they use if we go to full on nuclear war, that Trump can fly around super high in this plane and run America. So they've been flying that around to be ready for an emergency operation hub, probably standard sort of thing they do anytime. In fact they might fly it around all the time for All I know, I don't know.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it's an exciting story, but yeah, it might be completely meaningless. So, hey, I hadn't intended to go back to this, but I just found this. I am stunned by all this. Michael, play 14 again. This is Abby Phillip on CNN reporting on when again you had these geeks, a handful of jackasses who were demonstrating against essentially a Muslim being the mayor of New York because they think it's a bad thing. And you know, I, I get where they're coming from. These people I would not want to be with. But you know, in the stop the clock being right twice a day way, they're onto something kind of. But anyway, they were demonstrating and some ISIS trained and inspired Muslims came and tried to blow them up with bombs. Showed up to kill them. Right, exactly. This is what CNN reported.
Jack Armstrong
Two Republicans say Muslims don't belong here after an attempted terror attack against New
Joe Getty
York's mayor Zoran Mamdani. And the House speaker, Mike Johnson says nothing really to condemn those comments. Okay, that was incoherent in half a dozen different ways, but claimed that it was a terror attack against Mamdani when it indeed was his co religionists firebombing people who were condemning Mandani. So this is not shocking. You got Murad Awada, president of the New York Immigration Coalition.
Jack Armstrong
ISIS members attempt to kill peaceful protesters. That's the headline, right? Yes.
Joe Getty
Yeah, but so you've got this Murad Awada, president of New York Immigration Coalition. His statement, after all this, is blasting the original organizer, the peaceful protesters, for their outlandish bigotry. We're talking about a white supremacist who's looking for people to respond to them in this way. He said, okay, wow, so they incited the terrorism and they deserved it. According to Murad Awada. Brad Lander, former New York City comptroller who's running against Dan Goldman in a Democratic primary for what Congress, I think said he was horrified. I'm going to now pay attention to the words he used. He was horrified by the disturbing threat of violence, which he instinctively blamed on the anti Muslim protesters. Quote, vile displays of Islamophobia will never be tolerated in our city. He later apologized after learning some basic facts about the case. I'm sorry for jumping to conclusions and posting too soon, but I'm not sorry for hating Islam Islamophobia as much as I hate anti Semitism, as I've pointed out before. That's funny. Islamophobia sounds like an irrational fear. Anti Semitism, the word itself Sounds like a political stance. That's funny, isn't it? It's not. It's deliberate. Manhattan Borough President Brad Hoyleman. Seagull's response was a vague condemnation of both sides. Today on Manhattan's Upper east side, we saw disturbing acts and displays of hate targeting Muslim and Jewish New Yorkers. Every New Yorker should be alarmed. Blah, blah. New York State Senator Liz Krueger also, of course, these are all Democrats, said the city has no place for anti Muslim hate or any other kind of prejudice and blasted out of state provocateurs sowing fear, division and violence. So not the literal bomb chuckers, but the peaceful demonstrators, jackasses though they may be. That's amazing.
Jack Armstrong
It is. This is. I think this is a level different in terms of lying about the facts of a story than even in recent
Joe Getty
memory in defense of radical Islam. New York Times wrote a far right influencer attracted the counter protest that turned violent. Oh, so again the New York Times saying they attracted the counter protest that turned violent, so they deserved it. Blah, blah, blah. The paper's reporting writes the Free Beacon was riddled with passive voice descriptions of how smoking jars of metal infuses were thrown by an individual who was, quote, one of six people arrested after a clash with anti Muslim protesters.
Jack Armstrong
There are a number of people who like the smoking jars filled with metal infuses as opposed to calling it a bomb.
Joe Getty
Well, right. And they mentioned that the guys who threw bombs designed to kill more people than the Boston Marathon bombers were some of six people arrested after a clash with anti Muslim protesters. Going as far as they can to imply that it was the anti Muslims who are the bombers. In the New York Times. The Times portrayed the chaotic scene as, quote, a strained moment filled with tensions, both national and hyper local. Blah, blah, blah. Wow.
Jack Armstrong
So that.
Joe Getty
Oh, you know what? Final note, Andrew Stiles, who is freaking hilarious, bitterly hilarious in the Free Beacon, he has a picture of the World Trade center exploding in fire back on 9 11. And his headline in the New York Times is Islamophobes pounce after Muslim piloted Aircraft collide with symbols of capitalist imperialism.
Jack Armstrong
It's pretty good and not a far stretch from what we're hearing.
Joe Getty
This is unreal.
Jack Armstrong
And even the, the guy I don't like, he's a January 6th dude who was violent against cops and was pardoned by Trump and he was there to protest against Muslims in office in New York. But when he, when, when the cops showed, he said, I want you to understand who is being violent here. Who was, who were the violent ones? Was it us or them? And you know, nobody's picked up on that. No obvious point.
Joe Getty
Leftist America's love affair with radical Islam is going to be the biggest story in the next decade.
Jack Armstrong
You think?
Joe Getty
I do. I really do.
Jack Armstrong
Maybe AI will fix it because probably
Joe Getty
so, because it's going to grow and grow and grow. The radical Muslims, Mamdani and company are not going to. Well, they will, as the saying goes, grow hungrier with the eating
Jack Armstrong
AI Safety under scrutiny after mass shooting. I don't know this story. I'm going to have to click on it because I don't know that when I was going to talk a little bit about AI and some of the I shoot somebody.
Joe Getty
Oh. Or was it a person driven nuts by AI?
Jack Armstrong
Lawsuit claims OpenAI that'd be your chat. GPT was aware of the shooter's violent intentions because apparently the guy had been chatting with the chat bot and it didn't alert people or I don't know how we will get into that world where the chat bots are obligated. It'd be like, what is the test that I took in California? I am a mandatory reporter.
Joe Getty
That's it.
Jack Armstrong
So I'm a mandatory reporter. If I see somebody abusing a kid, for instance, I have to report it or I'm in trouble. Are we going to have mandatory reporter rules for chatbots? You have to report to mental health professionals that this person is talking about killing themselves or hurting others. That'd be interesting.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that could go way, way, way too far.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, heck yeah.
Joe Getty
I mean, if I say the Italians killed our guys yesterday, well, they think I'm planning some sort of genocide or something.
Jack Armstrong
Well, and you can talk to a therapist about not wanting to hurt other people probably, but wanting to hurt yourself. And they don't necessarily report it there. It's up to them to determine whether or not that's a. But chatbots would not be able to pick up the distinctions. Yeah, that'd be an interesting case. One of the many, many interesting cases involving AI. Okay, we got more on the way. Stay here.
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Does he have a target on his back?
You mean the new Supreme Leader? You mean the sun?
How can there be an Iran?
Well, I don't want to, I don't want to say that but you know, I was disappointed because we think it's going to lead to just more of the same problem for the country. So I was disappointed to see their choice much less threatening and belligerent. Statement from the President on the does the new Supreme Leader have a target on his back? Well, I don't want to say that, but I was disappointed in the choice. So there you go. Breaking news non Trumpian the international energy something or other. I didn't even know they had reserve oil, but they do and they're going to release 400 million gallons of it. So an attempt to keep oil price down and, and take away Iran's leverage was really what they're doing.
Joe Getty
Right?
Jack Armstrong
That's cool. Got an AI story for you that I find interesting. Not well, it is surprising to me but, but there have been a lot of technological advancements that were supposed to ease our workload and lead to less paper and blah blah blah and hasn't necessarily done that. I was talking to somebody about the other day about pre email texts when you went home from work and only in extreme conditions would your boss call you at home, you know, between you getting home at night, in the next morning.
Joe Getty
Oh yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Now you get your texts and emails from people round the clock with the expectation of being able to reply to them.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that's funny. I hadn't, I hadn't thought of that in years. But your boss calls you at seven o', clock, you know, your wife answers, honey, it's your boss. You'd think what the hell, right?
Jack Armstrong
No kidding. I didn't know you knew my home number, but this from the Wall Street Journal. AI isn't lightening workloads, it's making them more intense. One of the great hopes for artificial intelligence, at least among workers, is that will ease workloads, freeing people up for more high level creative pursuits. So far the opposite is happening. New data show, in fact, AI is increasing the speed, density and complexity of work rather than reducing it. According to an analysis of a analysis of 164,000 workers. Digital work activity.
Joe Getty
That's a lot of people.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that's a big study. The data from workforce analytics and productivity tracking software covers more than blah, blah, 444 million hours, okay. Across 1100 employers. So this is one of the biggest studies of AI to date, examining users digital activity 180 days before and 180 days after they began using tools on the job, AI tools. They found that AI intensified activity across nearly every category. The time they spent on email, messaging and chat more than doubled, while their use of business management tools such as human resources or accounting software rose 94%. So it almost doubled.
Joe Getty
Wow. Wow.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know how this could possibly be true, but I assume it is.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Gosh, our jobs are so weird. It's tough for me to relate to that sort of thing. I have no reason to doubt the study.
Jack Armstrong
Meanwhile, the amount of time AI users devoted to focused uninterrupted work, the kind of concentration offer often required to figure out complex program problems, you know, the sort of thing you were hoping you'd have more time to do.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
Dropped 9% compared to the 180 days where you didn't have AI. It's not that AI doesn't create efficiency, says this expert, it's that the capacity it frees up immediately gets repurposed into doing other work. And that's where the creep is likely to happen.
Joe Getty
Okay, wow. Okay. So the pace at which it brings you solutions and churns out work or analysis or whatever, that just creates much more work for you to do.
Jack Armstrong
I don't understand it, but you got to be groaning if you're listening to this and if it's true, the idea that when AI comes to your workplace that the time spent on emailing and chatting and messaging will double.
Joe Getty
On the other hand, that would make the anti doomers. Right. AI will not eliminate jobs. It will create so much more work. Everybody will, you know, get paid whatever they want to get to charge, you know, demand.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know about that. Part, but you keep your job. But maybe working so hard it makes you insane till it kills you.
Joe Getty
Yes, the robots won't kill you, the work will. Oh my God.
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those driverless taxis coming dangerously close to train tracks in Texas. A driver capturing the empty Waymo vehicle across the lowered gates at a rail crossing in Austin. A train passing by just inches away there. Waymo reacting to the close call, saying in a statement they are temporarily restricting Waymo cars from similar rail crossings while
they conduct a full review.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I'd hate to be sitting in an Waymo and it starts driving onto a train tracks with a train coming take away. What? What are you.
Joe Getty
You'd hate that.
Jack Armstrong
You say, what are you doing here? Got a little more on that AI workplace story that's really interesting, but the New York Post is calling out soccer player activist Megan Rapinoe. You remember her? Good from she was one of the best soccer players ever, and she was on the US Women's team that competed at the highest level. But she kneeled for the national anthem and she testified before Congress about how women are being ripped off and all these different things. She's been involved in all these different things. She's a big George Floyd person, all that hasn't said a word about Iran's female soccer team being sent home to be raped, tortured and murdered, quite possibly by their own government. Why now? I don't know. I don't. I talked about this yesterday. I don't know how I feel about people when they don't get involved in an issue. But man, she's been involved in so many political issues and you're. You're like the biggest voice in women's soccer on planet Earth.
Joe Getty
Certainly when politics intrudes. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And to not say anything about this.
Joe Getty
I'm telling you, these people are so steeped in self hatred and America hatred, they can't criticize anyone who's the enemy of the United States. It's, it's that crazy. Good. She should be called out. Good for the the Post.
Jack Armstrong
Anyway, so we were talking about this. It's the biggest study yet by far of the impact of AI on the workplace. Hundreds of thousands of employees, gazillions of hours. And what they determined is it doesn't put you in a position where you can get all your work done in like an hour. And so the rest of the time you get to, you know, write poetry
Joe Getty
and play your guitar and my fondest
Jack Armstrong
wish, get into glass blowing and candle making or whatever it is you're wanting to do, you just become way, way more productive and actually end up more stressed out and work harder. Which actually kind of makes sense to me because like I'm thinking about, I don't know, many worlds of business other than radio because this is all I've done my whole life. But like salespeople writing sales proposals. So maybe you do, I don't know, three a day on your own. And if AI comes along and you can do three and a half an hour, the boss isn't going to say, well go ahead and take the other seven and a half hours off and just do it some glass. The boss is going to say, well then I want to have 1,000 proposals a day instead of three since you
Joe Getty
can go faster or because you're quadrupling or quintella, whatever it is, your output, the human follow up that needs to be done has just increased by many times.
Jack Armstrong
Right? Yeah, that's a good way to look at it too. Anyway, so back to this Wall Street Journal article about this because this is what they found happen. The amount of email and chat and texts and everything like that is doubled for people that started using AI as opposed to been cut down. Such habits, says the Wall Street Journal, aren't what AI evangelists had predicted. A number of tech and business leaders from Bill Gates to JB Porkins Chases, Jamie Dimon have suggested that AI could ultimately lead people to work less, not more, and result in a shorter work week. Elon Musk has said that within 20 years, advancements in AI and robots could even make work optional. I think that's a fanciful idea, but
Joe Getty
the cautionary note is this. This is early days. Yeah, so These trends could change. But again, this is creating more work which says to me it's not going to eliminate employment.
Jack Armstrong
It is early days. But this is the first actual data in practice of it, not just theory. This is the first time they've actually tested it as opposed to just theorizing about it on podcasts. Evidence so far suggests that many AI adopters aren't using the technology's efficiencies to give themselves a break. Workers often use the time savings to do more work rather than less because AI makes additional tasks feel easy and accessible, creating a sense of momentum. That's kind of interesting. Analysis backs up the findings of an eight month study. So this backs up the findings of a preliminary smaller study. So he had a smaller study saying it looks like people end up working more when you start using AI. And they did an even bigger study that confirmed those results about how AI is shaping work habits at a tech company. The research still underway is so far said the tools didn't reduce reduce work but intensified it. The employees worked at faster paces, took on broader scopes of tasks and ended up working more hours. The initial findings reported and this is my favorite part and this is what I wanted to get on over time, said one analyst. This can lead to cognitive overload, burnout, poor decision making and declining work quality even if workers peer appear more effective. Yeah, can lead to wanting to jump off the eight story balcony because everything's just going so fast. You're working so much and you feel insane.
Joe Getty
Yeah, this is all so confusing and overwhelming and rife with uncertainty now.
Jack Armstrong
So I, I had been looking at the AI takeover of AI starts doing the job instead of humans and then we have to come up with the univers universal income thing and then you just stay home. You don't work. I, I, I get Elon's view of it more than I do the this will make us more productive so we'll work less. That that doesn't make any sense on its face. When have we ever like come up with something that makes it more efficient? So now you don't work as much?
Joe Getty
No.
Jack Armstrong
When's that ever? Why would that happen? I'm paying you 40 hours a week. The fact that you can now do your old work in half the time frees you up to do more work, not go home.
Joe Getty
Well, right. If I give you a shovel that doesn't have holes in it so you can dig a ditch more quickly, that doesn't mean I'm going to settle for the one, you know, slow ditch that I Used to settle for no dig two ditches, obviously. Yeah, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
So the in between of what we got now without AI and then AI doing it all for us is just going to be people working their asses
Joe Getty
off or is it? Yeah, I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
Certainly sounds believable to me.
Joe Getty
I wish I had more specifics. I'd like to hear about specific jobs and tasks. You know, you gave the example of you can prepare three sales presentations in a day and then you have three sales presentations worth of follow up work to do or whatever goes along with it. That I can understand. I can relate to that. So if all of a sudden you can do 15, then I get why that's a little overwhelming. And you would hire more people to do follow ups, I guess. But at some point you've got, I mean surely you would design the AI or enhance the AI, tweak it, whatever. So it could do the follow up as well in, in as well as a human in. In addition to what it was doing. But then you've got an AI on the other end reading the proposal and, and processing it and then having its AI cousin.
Jack Armstrong
I was telling my kids the other
Joe Getty
day, decide whether to buy or not.
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I don't know.
Joe Getty
My mind is blown. I got no time for this. I'm going to go watch the squirrels cavort.
Jack Armstrong
My youngest is. My, my oldest doesn't care about really anything so. But my youngest like music and skateboarding. But my, my youngest is terrified of AI and how it's going to ruin the world and what is this future going to be? He's. He's a very. I'm sitting with him, he's 14 and we were eating dinner last night and he said, he's just shaking his head and I said what's wrong? He said I've got to get my life together. Like what?
Joe Getty
You really don't.
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You're 14.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know what specifically he was thinking about, but I gotta get my life together now. You know, if you're sitting with a 40 year old, you can imagine all kinds of scenarios but.
Joe Getty
Right, right.
Jack Armstrong
A 14 year old. I'm not, I'm not sure what. But anyway, I said, I told them I might hit the sweet spot of AI Joe and I might. Or people our age of it comes along and you know, we're ready to be done working anyway and Universal Basic Income hits and you know, the salad days are upon me and I've already done the go out there and have meaning in life thing for long enough to coast on until finish line.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it's true. And I hate to pile on the old men yelling at Cloud's theme, but there are times, I mean, like for instance, Jack, you probably haven't gotten a chance to read it yet, but I was power reading a piece that our friend Tim Sandifer sent us about the nature of the music industry right now and about how sync music, which is like old production music and radio, the music you'd hear under a grocery store ad or whatever, up eat and cherry and whatever, you know, and pears or three for a dozen or whatever that's
Jack Armstrong
a good price for bears.
Joe Getty
Oh, please. Come on, get. Get a couple of dozen anyway. But how that's. Now that is what pop music is there. People are not writing music to be listened to and enjoyed as an art form because there's no money in it, unless you're one of the super giants. It's all music for TikTok videos, for TV shows, for YouTube videos. And weirdly, pop music is now imitating the background music from TikTok videos. So which one is which is now completely unclear. And I'm sitting here thinking, it's like I've been transported to a foreign country. The culture's weird, I don't like the food and I want to go home. I don't want to stay here.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know.
Joe Getty
I remember famously a musicologist who was Talking about the Sgt. Pepper album, the Beatles album, he said that was the moment where clearly pop music went from ritual dance music to music for listening. And I thought that's a really interesting observation. And you can cite other works of art, blah, blah, blah, but it's mostly true. And now we're in an era where. But it's becoming background music for just mildly entertaining videos of people doing things. That's what pop music is for, people that make it.
Jack Armstrong
Because people are still want to listen to good music, right?
Joe Getty
Some do. But again, pop music is now imitating the background music for TikTok videos, or it's impossible to tell the difference which is which. And it was talking about how they're, for some reason, 21 seconds. I don't know why, but they're looking for that roughly 21/2 grabber piece of music. It's like the hook or whatever, but that's going to be the part that's going to be in the videos. And so anybody who's making pop music wants to be sure that that comes like super early in the song so that somebody will start using that song for whatever, you know, a reality show or a TikTok video or whatever. And it's just. You know what, we need to change definitions. If you like music as art, don't look there anymore.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
Don't, don't. Don't look for diamonds in a gold mine. You're wasting your time.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I feel like, because I just love that Olivia Dean album, that one Grammy for best new Artist. Friggin listen to at least one song every single day. God, she's a R B genius. But anyway, that's real music with a real singer new on the scene. I just, I can't imagine anything replacing that for me. Maybe other people want to hear AI generated 21 second tick tock songs. I don't know.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it'll have a different role societally and economically, but that's always been the case in music. It always changes. Again, a great book to read on that topic and I don't he ought to update it. David Byrne of Talking Heads famous book is How Music Works. Really interesting thought provoking. Gets a little bogged down toward the, you know, second half. So.
Jack Armstrong
So we haven't nailed down whether AI is going to make the workplace better or worse. At least according to this study, it's going to be worse.
Joe Getty
Great.
Jack Armstrong
Before the ultimate time comes where you don't have to work at all. But that's 20 years out, according to Elon.
Joe Getty
All right, I have no opinion on any of this.
Jack Armstrong
I'll prepare my kids accordingly.
Joe Getty
Yeah, good luck.
Jack Armstrong
We'll finish strong.
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Joe Getty
Hard to right field.
Jack Armstrong
Georgia turn and watch it fly.
Joe Getty
Cad Leon is hit the third home run of the game.
Jack Armstrong
Italy.
Joe Getty
They're gonna need a fresh bag of beans over there in that dugout.
Jack Armstrong
So that's their home run celebration. They run over to the espresso machine and they all take a shot of espresso after a home run and smoke a cigarette. And they had several of them when Italy beat the United States 8, 6 yesterday. That's kind of a funny home run celebration. But here's something I didn't know. I might have actually possibly been rooting for Italy if I'd have known this at the time. They got 21 players born in the United States on their team. You just need to have some Italian heritage. And I don't think they're very strict on that. It's guys who couldn't make the US Team who would love to be on the US Team because they got beaten out by people that are better than them. You think they were motivated to beat the all star team as a bunch of major league baseball players who would love to play for the US Team.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
I mean, that would be very exciting. Kicking the ass of Judge and Bryce Harper and all those different guys.
Joe Getty
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I'm looking at the names Jack Caglio, Caglianone and Sam Antonacci.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
These are people who got like their grand mother grew up in Sicily or whatever. The Italians are like, good enough. Come play ball. You're a major leaguer.
Jack Armstrong
I, I mean, I'd rather the United States win than Italy wins, but I, I could see rooting for the. Oh, I'm not good enough to be on the team. Take a suck of this.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
But so Italy, I got it. I had it wrong or I was misled. Italy has to win today to pull the United States. Italy has to beat Mexico. Italy will beat Mexico. Unless they just have a bad day because they've been trouncing everybody.
Joe Getty
Oh, really?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe Getty
I've got a baseball related final thought, but it can wait.
Jack Armstrong
Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Joe Getty
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up up the show for the day. There he is, pressing the buttons. Michelangelo in the control room. Michael, what's your final thought? You see how good Italy's team is? Jack, how about an espresso machine in your studio?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I love it.
Joe Getty
I love a nice espresso in the afternoon myself. Katie Greener, steamed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie, as I sit here with my iced water, I am still completely baffled
Jack Armstrong
by Jack's preference of drinking warm water.
Joe Getty
Water?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I've always been la. I prefer room temperature water. Sick.
Joe Getty
It's perverse. Jack, do you have a final thought? You weirdo.
Jack Armstrong
Italy beat Brazil 8 nothing. Then Great Britain 7 4.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
And then beat the United States. So I think they'll probably beat Mexico today and then maybe a rematch. Italy, United States. That'd be exciting.
Joe Getty
So my final note is baseball related. It's to Apple. The Apple Corporation.
Jack Armstrong
Apple.
Joe Getty
What If I was a major league ballplayer as a hitter and I went O for 375 like 12 years in a row, what would you tell me? You would tell me. You gotta stop trying. You're terrible at that. That's how you are with punctuating my voice texts. You are utterly incompetent. It's hilariously wrong and wrong headed. It's never good. You have no idea what you're doing. Just stop trying.
Jack Armstrong
How is it not better? And I swear it's gotten worse over the years. As opposed to better?
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Gonna make a very obvious point. Number one. I gotta see if Judy's willing to rent me out as a jiglo. Because I am a natural born lover man.
Jack Armstrong
Don't ever say that again. Hear me plainly. What I'm telling you is I'm an idiot.
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Jack Armstrong
He's a damn idiot.
Joe Getty
Oh yes, that's true.
Jack Armstrong
The pathetic spectacle of a man who's run out of ropes. Okay, on that high note. Hi.
Joe Getty
Good night everybody. Hasta la vista, baby. Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
I insisted first.
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Episode: "I'm Going To Watch The Squirrels Cavort"
Date: March 11, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts
This episode of Armstrong & Getty mixes the duo’s trademark irreverence with serious discussion, taking on topics ranging from a shocking international baseball upset, political and media narratives around a terror incident in New York, deep dives into the impact of AI on workplaces, and broader reflections on cultural change—including a humorous glance at baseball celebrations and pop music trends. The hosts frequently toggle between satire and sincerity, with Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty offering both knee-jerk reactions and attempts at reasoned analysis.
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This recap gives the spirit and content of Armstrong & Getty’s March 11, 2026 show: fast-paced, sometimes irreverent, and encompassing everything from international sports to the existential angst of the AI era. It’s clear these are two broadcasters who see the world in perpetual, often sardonic flux—and choose to face it with both critique and a sense of humor.