I'm Like A Bull Moose!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "I'm Like a Bull Moose!" – January 12, 2026

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Overview

In this episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty deliver their signature blend of news, cultural commentary, and political discussion, diving deep into controversy around protests and law enforcement, America's two-party "duopoly," and a heated on-air debate about immigration enforcement. The hosts also riff on social trends, media sympathy, fundraising after tragedy, and the role of activism in American life—all laced with their trademark sarcasm and wit.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Minneapolis Protest Shooting & Activist Choices

[03:22 – 08:25]

• The hosts discuss recent protests in Minneapolis, initially described as "peaceful" by media and Mayor Fry, contrasted with chaotic street sound (“Get back! Get back!”).
• Focus on a fatal incident involving a woman activist and federal agents: Armstrong reads a viral tweet analyzing the woman's actions and motivations as a mother and activist.
• They scrutinize her decision to protest and disobey commands, expressing skepticism about prioritizing activism over parental responsibilities.
  • Jack Armstrong: “She thought about the camera. She thought about the crowd. She thought about the moment. There’s no amount of evidence, money, tears on TV or news spin that can make this make sense. As a mother, nothing about this makes sense.” [06:33]
  • Joe Getty: "She chose strangers, she chose chaos." [08:03]

Memorable Quote:

“Hardcore activists. You’re weird. Just because you’re hardcore doesn’t mean you’re right.”
— Jack Armstrong [08:25]

• Sara Isger is quoted for contextual legal insight, noting officers’ vulnerability to vehicles and the standards set by the Supreme Court for deadly force.
  • Sara Isger (clip): “Every officer is trained to avoid the danger of a vehicle... legally, I think it is a relatively clear case once it gets to federal court.” [08:43]

2. The Psychology and Reality of Modern Activism

[08:43 – 14:50]

• Discussion turns to the modern activist mindset—contrasted with Civil Rights-era protestors. The hosts argue that some activists are "LARPing" (live-action role playing) revolution, more interested in attention or drama than actual change.
  • Joe Getty: “No smart person does that. Go back and watch the civil rights era... They talked in measured tones about what they were trying to accomplish.” [07:08]
• Armstrong and Getty lament the role of media in shaping sympathy, especially by highlighting personal details (“mother of three,” “poet,” etc.).
• They joke about how media portrayal can skew public perception, while reiterating that such personal details are irrelevant to the core legal or moral questions.

3. The Failure of Civic Purpose & The Desperate Search for Meaning

[12:11 – 13:49]

• Armstrong and Getty riff on the decline of civic organizations, religion, and family as sources of meaning, suggesting this vacuum is fueling radical activism and social aimlessness.
  • Jack Armstrong: “If you don’t have those things going for you, you’re desperate for a purpose for your life. So you go find one and radicalize yourself.” [12:45]

4. Media Sympathy & Social Narratives

[13:49 – 14:50]

• Hosts critique selective media coverage, especially when focusing on sympathetic angles (“mother of three”) but glossing over other details.
• They mock the tabloid fascination with personal life over actual policy or principle.

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5. The American Political "Duopoly" & Lack of Alternatives

[18:32 – 23:10]

• Citing a recent Gallup poll, the hosts note that almost half of Americans identify as "independent," but only Democrats and Republicans dominate power.
  • Jack Armstrong: “Let’s make them less and less and less popular and see if anything new emerges or if they can just hold onto power... If you had a couple [restaurants] and they both sucked... wouldn’t something new emerge in virtually every market?” [18:58]
• They adapt a restaurant metaphor to point out how ballot access, gerrymandering, and institutional barriers keep new parties from emerging.
  • Joe Getty: “We shouldn’t be choosing for the rest of our lives between fish and chicken because they rigged the system. If some of us want hamburgers...” [21:29]

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6. Border Policy Debate: Congress vs Customs and Border Patrol

[27:01 – 30:52]

• Playback/summary of a heated exchange between Rep. Sandra Feist (D-MN) and Chief Dan Bovino (CBP) in the Capitol, dissecting what counts as a “crime” in illegal immigration and the effectiveness of law enforcement tactics.
  • Rep. Feist: “Why are so few of the people you have arrested and detained and deported people with criminal records?” [27:01]
  • Jack Armstrong: “They’re all criminals. They’ve all crossed the border illegally.” [27:10]
• The conversation expands to common refrains in gun control debates and the effectiveness of new laws, with Armstrong and Getty querying the logic of more legislation if existing laws go unenforced.
  • Joe Getty: “What about the lives that are saved by guns? You don't talk about that, do you?” [29:33]

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7. GoFundMe, Social Media, & America as "Game Show"

[41:10 – 42:52]

• Discussion of how GoFundMe has become a “game show” where public sympathy or outrage turns instantly into fundraising and sometimes creates perverse incentives or rewards questionable behavior.
  • Joe Getty: “America’s become one big like weird jury where two people get in a screaming match in an airport, one of them gets doxed and run out of their job and the other one gets rich.” [42:33]
• The hosts question whether this is good for society, pondering the fairness and unintended consequences of online fundraising.

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8. News Odds & Ends – Technology, Elon Musk, and Cultural Notes

[25:41; 42:52 – 44:21]

• Brief light-hearted discussion of Elon Musk’s latest bizarre social media post proposing robot-human romance, referencing his growing family and technocratic ambitions.
• Touch on security issues at Jewish places of worship following a synagogue burning, contrast with less concern for mosques, and lament the lack of broad outrage.
  • Joe Getty: “If that was a mosque, that would be the biggest story in America.” [35:42]

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9. Finishing Out: Jokes, NFL, and Show Banter

[39:44 – 45:38]

• Sean Penn is roasted in a Golden Globes monologue:

  • “Everyone in this town is obsessed with looking younger. Meanwhile, Sean Penn is like, What if I slowly morph into a sexy leather handbag?... Sean Penn will go to the places in the world that need help the most, and he will do cocaine there.” [39:44]

• Discussion of the NFL playoffs’ suspenseful “last play” drama, the idea that “the fix is in” or, more seriously, how the sport has managed to remain so gripping.
• Recap of stories not covered and the ongoing need to “stop and smell the monkeys” as a metaphor for missing interesting stories in favor of heavier news. [45:14]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Hardcore activists. You’re weird. Just because you’re hardcore doesn’t mean you’re right.”
  — Jack Armstrong [08:25]
• “They were larping, they were live action role playing.”
  — Jack Armstrong [07:00]
• “If you don’t have those things [community, religion, family] going for you, you’re desperate for a purpose for your life. So you go find one and radicalize yourself.”
  — Jack Armstrong [12:45]
• “Let’s make them less and less and less popular and see if anything new emerges or if they can just hold onto power... wouldn’t something new emerge in virtually every market?”
  — Jack Armstrong [18:58]
• “America’s become one big like weird jury...”
  — Joe Getty [42:33]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Minneapolis protest/shooting analysis: 03:22 – 14:50
• On modern activism & meaning: 12:11 – 13:49
• Political duopoly and independents: 18:32 – 23:10
• Congress-member vs. CBP border debate: 27:01 – 30:52
• GoFundMe, social media society: 41:10 – 42:52
• Sean Penn Golden Globes roast: 39:44 – 40:23
• NFL/Show wrap banter: 44:21 – 45:38

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Tone & Style

• Sarcastic, irreverent, plainspoken
• They mix earnest commentary with biting humor and occasional self-mockery.
• The show is lively, peppered with banter, and never short on strongly held opinions.

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Conclusion

This episode showcases Armstrong & Getty’s style: dissecting news events, challenging activist tactics and media narratives, questioning the U.S.'s two-party political structure, and highlighting the quirks of modern American life—all while maintaining a blend of seriousness, mockery, and self-awareness.

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Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Protests here in Minneapolis are. Are peaceful. We had, I don't know, 10,000 or so people that were protesting and marching yesterday. And virtually all of it was very peaceful expression of First Amendment rights.

[Joe Getty]

Get back.

[NFL Announcer]

Get back.

[Joe Getty]

Get back. Get back. Get back. Get back.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's Mayor Fry in Minneapolis explaining how everything's peaceful and fine. And then natural sound from the streets where chaos and anger and violence was reigning.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I don't like the direction this stuff is going. Don't you assume it's going to get worse and there's going to be more of these?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what I don't see anything that would indicate otherwise.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, I wish I had the name of who tweeted this out pretty good. I'm sorry, I can't give you your name. Whoever tweeted this, I'm a mother, so I'm going to comment right now. I will say this exactly the way a mother thinks it. Raw, direct, and without pretending. This is complicated. A 37 year old woman, three kids, middle of a work week. The father of those children is dead. She's the only parent left. The one job she has above every cause, every protest, every headline is getting home to her kids. What's she doing instead? She's out of state. Other reports claim she lives there in the street in her car, blocking federal agents who are doing their job. Not alone. Her partner is right there filming her. Like this is some brave little documentary moment. Around them, sirens blaring, people yelling. Pure chaos. Manufactured chaos so agents can't do their lawful job. Her window is down. She hears the orders. She understands the orders. She ignores the orders. She then puts the car in reverse. Still doesn't comply. Then she puts it in drive, not park. She moves forward into the agent. That's not confusion, that's not panic. That's decision after decision after decision. Now put yourself in the agent's shoes for half a second. A driver is already in an unlawful act, refusing commands in a hostile, chaotic, loud scene. And now the driver uses a vehicle to move toward you. You got a split second you don't get the luxury of. Maybe she's just stressed. You have to assume the worst. You have to think of protecting other people, like the partner at the window. Because if you assume the best and you're wrong, you don't get to go home or someone else doesn't get to go home. So the agent fires after she makes an intentional and aggressive move toward him because he has no idea what her intentions are. And she just demonstrated she's willing to escalate. Now, imagine her three kids at school sitting there like any other day not knowing their mother is out playing street hero games for criminals in the middle of a work week with the two adults responsible for them. She didn't think about them. She didn't think if I get arrested, who picks my babies up? She didn't think if I get hurt, who raises them? She didn't think if I die, they'd have nobody. She thought about protecting the criminals. I guess she's talking about the illegals in this case.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

She thought about interfering with federal agents. She thought about the camera. She thought about the crowd. She thought about the moment. There's no amount of evidence, money, tears on TV or news spin that can make this make sense. As a mother, nothing about this makes sense.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well. And she left out the smug glee that both the dead woman and her partner were showing how much they were enjoying all of it.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, man. When you see.

[Jack Armstrong]

Speaks really to the psychology and the lack of grounding in reality of their activities. They were larping, they were live action role playing.

[Joe Getty]

The grounding in reality is right. Her partner was asking. Come on, big boy, you better get a sandwich. You're gonna be here a while. That is never the way you should be dealing with people who have guns and the ability to kill you if things go sideways. I mean, no smart person does that. I mean, go back and watch the civil rights era. People who are up against, you know, authority, bad authority. In this case, they didn't talk that way. And they talked in measured tones about their. What they're trying to accomplish and why they were on the right side. You don't do the. Hey, big boy, you better get yourself a lunch. You're going to be here a while. That's.

[Jack Armstrong]

You better feed that German shepherd if.

[Joe Getty]

He'S going to come and bite me.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, you didn't hear that.

[Joe Getty]

No, that's a dumb way to handle the situation. Back to this briefly. As a mother, nothing about this makes sense. At minimum, she knew her actions could get her arrested. At minimum, and she still chose it. She chose strangers, she chose chaos.

[Jack Armstrong]

She chose lawlessness.

[Joe Getty]

I agree, man. What kind of, what kind of belief do you have in a cause where you're willing to go to that length where, well, I might spend the next couple of days in jail at like best when I got a couple of kids. How am I going to live my life? This is nuts. Who does that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Hardcore activists. You're weird. Just because you're hardcore doesn't mean you're right. I think it's worth throwing in this from the extremely reasonable. Definitely not very Trumpy. Sara Isger. I thought this was important. 46. Please, Michael.

[Armstrong]

15% or so of in the line deaths are caused by cars. Every officer is trained to avoid the danger of a vehicle. There's no question he shouldn't have been in front of that vehicle at that time.

[Jack Armstrong]

So.

[Armstrong]

But the Supreme Court has also said we do look to the totality of circumstances, including the fact that in that moment he was in front of the vehicle as that vehicle is moving so legally, I think it is a relatively clear case once it gets to federal court.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of assault with a deadly weapon.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. And the whole. She's there to support criminals. There's, there's people being drug off by ICE agents in situations that I don't find good. I mean, originally when this whole started the thing started, it was the idea of we got a bunch of rapists and murderers and all kinds of law breakers here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gang bangers.

[Joe Getty]

Gang bangers that we need to get out of the country here illegally. Almost everybody's for that. And then it comes down to, are we going to arrest people who their only crime is they're here illegally? Some of you agree, man, that gets, that gets pretty ugly pretty fast since we've baked it into our society so much over so many decades.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and as we've discussed earlier in the show, to do it with maximum confrontation and abrasiveness as opposed to, you know, President Joe Getty would say, all right, let's accomplish this with as little like stirring up resistance as we can. Let's, let's do this quietly and in a dignified way because that way we'll be more effective. But instead, and the Trump administration, Trump himself likes to whip things up. He enjoys that.

[Joe Getty]

But, man, it's not helping the whole activist crowd thing that, you know, kind of old joke that we do on the right of, you know, we all can't protest because we all have jobs or kids to raise. We don't have time to go down there. And do that. Here's somebody who has kids to raise and had things to do I can't even imagine. I got so many things to do with a couple of kids today in my job. I know what I'll do. I'll go put myself in a position where I'm likely to get arrested and have to go through that whole hassle. I'm in another state, so I'm a long way away from my family anyway. Who does that?

[Jack Armstrong]

You know your point about the civil rights movement and how you never saw that sort of smugness and taunting and all. That's because I think that goes back to the whole question of LARPing. They were playing the brave revolution revolutionary, but on their face. It wasn't like a give me liberty or give me death sort of transcendent courage. It was that they, the two gals thought they won't do anything, right? We get to do this all day long and nobody will ever do anything. So we can have it both ways.

[Joe Getty]

You know what it reminds me of?

[Jack Armstrong]

Like the brave campus revolutionaries.

[Joe Getty]

It reminds me of on a much stupider level, the people who taunt athletes at games because they think they can't do anything to me. So I can say absolutely anything I want to this guy, right? Celebrities. I can say anything I want because.

[Jack Armstrong]

They can't do it and pretend that I'm such a tough guy, right? I'll get in the face of a 6 foot 4 inch, 240 pound linebacker and tell him he sucks at his job because I'm sitting here safe. He can't do anything.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, you're right.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's similar week.

[Joe Getty]

It's a week.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is indeed.

[Joe Getty]

We need more community organizers. Remember Barack Obama was that. And a lot of people would make jokes about that. We need more organizing in communities for causes and laws and legislation. The slow process of the way a democracy works. You don't like our immigration laws or the way things are. You got to organize. You got to get this all together. You got to vote. You got to vote people in who believe the same way. And over time, you win the issue. Not I'm going to park my car in front of the agent so they can't do it and then berate them, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Or I mean, my God, at least you know, it's misguided, it's stupid, it's dangerous and it interferes with law enforcement. But at least it's not like the hashtag activism of the keyboard warrior who doesn't do anything or risk anything. But everybody is so desperate For a purpose for their lives. And this is absolutely. And everybody knows this related to the going away of civic organizations and family. Well, religion and family more than anything. If you don't have those things going for you, you're desperate for a purpose for your life. So you go find one and radicalize yourself. Like the kids who end up shooting. People talked about that at fair length. The fact that this gal had three kids, I think it was by, you know, a handful of different relationships, it doesn't matter. You know, life has its ups and downs, but the fact that she was still looking for a purpose in her life and that purpose was. I'm a radical lefty activist.

[Joe Getty]

You're right. It doesn't matter. Her, her situation with kids and couple of dudes she married, then became a lesbian, married a woman, or the fact that she's a poet, none of that matters. But if the media is going to, every single time they mention her name, say a mother of three. Okay, you're playing the game. You're trying to get sympathy out of this. Well, then I get to fill in some of the holes that make it not as sympathetic. Or we leave it out because it's irrelevant. It's not relevant to whether.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whether or not the thrice married lesbian poet.

[Joe Getty]

Right. I don't think that's fair. But if you're going to go with the mother of three, okay, you started Maryland, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

The little league coach.

[Joe Getty]

You started this game. Or we could just leave it out because they don't get to shoot you just for no reason. No matter what, no matter how many marriages you have, whether you like poetry or not.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know what? I'm willing to grant my favorite lesbian poets a couple of marriages. But once they hit that third one, I'm through with you. That's enough. You've tired me out.

[Joe Getty]

You've lost all gravitas.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Man, it all comes down to this.

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The stakes are high, hopes are higher, and everything is on the line. My goodness, it's win or go home and every moment counts on the road to Super Bowl 60. It's a touchdown Wild Card weekend powered by Verizon today at 8pm Eastern. Visit watch.NFL.com for the full schedule.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Mayor Mamdani appointed New York City's first lesbian first ever lesbian fire chief.

[Joe Getty]

Finally they figured out a way to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Beat the cops at softball.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Gutfeld's on the trigonometry podcast, if anybody's familiar with that, talking about how many times they tried to cancel him and he finally just decided to do whatever he wanted. And that's when he got mostly successful. But I might. I might listen to that because he's an interesting story in terms of his show becoming popular.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Just came across this from Gallup poll. This is pretty big. Gallup poll shows that now almost half. We're just on the cusp of. Half of Americans now identify as independent, not wanting to be called a Republican or a Democrat. The two parties are in a dead heat at 27% each. So half the country's like, I don't want to be have my name attached with either one of those places.

[Jack Armstrong]

If I were to design a test case for the duopoly that is the Democrats and Republicans in Washington, well, across the whole country, practically, this would be it. Let's make them less and less and less popular and see if anything new emerges or if they can just hold onto power through the means that, you know, we've been talking about for a long time. I mean, wouldn't you think if it were like soft drinks or burger joints or virtually anything that that. Or even like freaking libraries. If you had a couple of them and they both sucked and nobody liked them. Well, relatively speaking, nobody wouldn't something new emerge in virtually every market.

[Joe Getty]

Well, let's stick with the library then. Can we do restaurants just because Library. There's two restaurants.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Half of people don't like either restaurant, but there are only two restaurants. And I do prefer one of the restaurants way more than the other restaurant.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure.

[Joe Getty]

That's what the situation is.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean. Yeah, but.

[Joe Getty]

No, no, no.

[Jack Armstrong]

I am slapping the meal of ignorance out of your hands as you attempt it. I was enjoying the metaphor anyway, but here's the. Here's. Here's my question. Here's what I'm driving in. I probably did it poorly. So you have that level of dissatisfaction with the two restaurants, yet those two restaurants have a way to prevent any third restaurant opening.

[Joe Getty]

I'm making the assumption that there will not be more than two restaurants because that's just the way it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

How come that's just the way it is doesn't work?

[Joe Getty]

I mean, how they worked the zoning laws or something kind of like the way Republicans and Democrats have worked the congressional seats to where they guarantee something like 90% of them will stay in the hands of the Rs of these, and they fight over a tiny portion.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of the others and the exhausting laws for getting on the ballot in a lot of places. Yeah, those are both excellent points. Yeah, that's what I was driving at. Let's talk A little bit about the mechanisms they use to ensure that their two sucky, sucky parties continue in power.

[Joe Getty]

And I guess the part where we put up with it is that we call ourselves independents, a lot of us, because we don't want to be attached to the party. But I'm still going to mostly vote that party because when it comes down to a binary choice. Are you freaking kidding me?

[Jack Armstrong]

You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to take to the streets and start blocking the vehicles of law enforcement. No, I'm not going to do that because that's effing stupid.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Well, so I don't know, but the smart people should spend time talking about what legislative reform could happen or structural reform of some sort. Because if you got half the country that doesn't want to call itself either party, there should be a way to get a new restaurant. We shouldn't be choosing for the rest of our lives between fish and chicken because they rigged the system. If some of us want hamburgers.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. And we do. So coming up, the Supreme Court is soon to unleash what I pray will be. The buddy's a dude ruling about transgender.

[Joe Getty]

People in sports, the famous but that's a penis ruling.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's a dude doctrine. But when we come back from break, looking forward to this. A progressive congressperson runs into the head of customs and border patrol in the Capitol and wants to have an argument about illegal immigration. And we'll have that jazzy back and.

[Joe Getty]

Forth for you and that Supreme Court things could be a big deal, huh?

[Jack Armstrong]

So, anybody got any brilliant thoughts? Yeah, I think it will. Absolutely. And if it's not, I will be bitterly, bitterly disappointed. Does anybody have any brilliant thoughts on ending the duopoly of those two crappy restaurants? Mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com is the email address. So think about it, noodle it through, what to do about it, how do they insure it, how do they keep it going? Whatever you want. Mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com we need to get new zoning.

[Joe Getty]

Laws so we can get a burger joint up in here. That's what we need. Something like that. Okay. Lots on the way. Hope you can stay here.

[Armstrong]

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[NFL Announcer]

NFL playoffs are here and Wild Card Weekend powered by Verizon is almost through.

[Joe Getty]

Man, it all comes down to this.

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The stakes are high, hopes are higher, and everything is on the line. My goodness, it's win or go home and every moment counts on the road to Super Bowl 60. It's a touchdown Wild Card Weekend powered by Verizon today at 8pm Eastern. Visit watch.NFL.com for the full schedule.

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[Joe Getty]

Must be 21 or older.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Just put out a really weird video on his Twitter feed. I'll talk about that at some point.

[Jack Armstrong]

I kind of miss Elon, the wackadoodle provocateur. I mean, the tech giant is really interesting. The political crusader was an interesting chapter in his life, but I miss him just being the troll.

[Joe Getty]

Well, this is pretty provocative. Suggesting some sort of robot human romance thing is a good idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy why don't we try it out on you first, Elon?

[Joe Getty]

Huh?

[Jack Armstrong]

Things get weird and they're getting weird fast. Yeah. Amen to that. So apparently in the Capitol the other day, Congress lady Sandra Feist, who. Where do we decide she's from? Katie? Minnesota representative. Oh, that's right. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Appropriately enough, who's at least feigning being fired up about the recent ugliness, ran into Dan Bovino. Is it Dan? I think so. Sorry, I'm addled with flu. I just got the flu shot and I feel kind of funky. But anyway, and ran into him and they started arguing about the immigration situation in general and the Minnesota deal and the rest of it. And I think it's kind of instructive for where people are in their opinions. But let's start with 64, Michael, and we'll go from there.

[Armstrong]

Why are you not arresting criminals? Why are so few of the people that you have arrested and detained and deported people with criminal records?

[Jack Armstrong]

They're all criminals. They've all crossed the border illegally.

[Armstrong]

Crossing the border illegally is a civil event.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. 18 USC 1325, illegal entry. That's a federal crime.

[Armstrong]

Yes, that's still considered civil immigration enforcement.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, that's fine. You know, we can talk about that if you want. She got a bit of a voice to her, doesn't she? And it's Greg Bovino. Thank you for the clarification. All right, go on. The folks. Double digit drops in grind. Have you looked at your statistics where you don't care about since we've been conducting? Yes. Double digit drops in grind. Correlation of not causation when we're there. That does cause that.

[Armstrong]

Well, I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I saw.

[Armstrong]

You don't know exactly the time was I shooting a woman who is a bystander.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't drive a 2,000 pound missile and an ICE agent. You will have an outcome that you don't agree with, Representative. So I, you know, I'm prejudiced because I agree with him and I knew going in I would. But saying she was a bystander is brutally dishonest.

[Joe Getty]

I would say she was obviously a participant.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. You know, a corollary to the Getty law that people don't make terrible arguments because they're really, really good arguments are in the shower or they're saving them for tomor tomorrow they make them because that's all they got. Well, the, the tangent to that would be people don't resist. Don't resort rather to ridiculously dishonest characterizations of a situation. Because, you know, just that they forgot what the honest characterization is. They do it because they have to. That's the only way they can make their point.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Or.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or they. That's the only hope they have to make their point successfully. Rolling on about that Second Amendment.

[Armstrong]

Well, I don't know if you heard, but we had a shooting in a school here in Minnesota recently.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's that got to do with the Second Amendment?

[Armstrong]

Well, I think that if we had some common sense. Gun violence, gun violence prevention.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who gets to say it's common sense? You?

[Armstrong]

Well, yes, I'm.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. And I think that's definitely the problem when you use that violent rhetoric around children. Yeah, I'd say that you probably are not exercising a lot of copies. And since they're representative.

[Armstrong]

Really? Well, all I've seen here in Minnesota is people dying, including children.

[Jack Armstrong]

What about the lives that are saved by guns? You don't talk about that, do you?

[Joe Getty]

So is this one of those Rorschach tests? If some of my progressive friends were listening to this, would she. Would they think she's owning him? Because to me, it seems like she sounds like an idiot and he's making sense.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's like an unhappy teenager arguing with a. A very serious adult. And I almost. I wish this wasn't edited quite so heavily because I'd like to hear more context. Go ahead, Katie.

[Armstrong]

So the parts of it that I.

[Jack Armstrong]

Have cut out are long pauses where every time that he says something and makes a clear point, she goes silent. Silent. And pulls her phone out and is like violently texting. So there was something. I don't know if she was looking stuff up, but she was trying to get something going on her phone because she would shut down and go straight into her phone for probably a minute.

[Joe Getty]

And then come back at it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Him. Oh, okay. Interesting. Next clip. The end all is get rid of guns. People don't die. Is fentanyl still killing people in Minnesota? Just wondering. Because it's illegal. Because it's illegal. The government, we don't hand out fentanyl. Is fentanyl killing people in Minnesota? See, see, see, this is where. This is where. This is where you need to count to 10.

[Joe Getty]

Too easy.

[Jack Armstrong]

She says this is dumb and walks away. His point being there are laws against fentanyl like crazy, but get them and it kills people. And the rest of it, more laws won't work. Well, and again, and we've made this point before, but I think it's worth making again. When you get gun laws passed, the left refuses to enforce them. Because they're disproportionately enforced against people of color and they refuse any enhancement for the use of a gun or whatever. I mean, if I'm on the left, I would look around me and say, hey guys, guys, I've realized a problem we've got. I don't get the self delusion. I truly don't. You remember when Republicans and Democrats overlapped like 80%?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good times. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Huh. The funny mechanism exacerbates it, there's no doubt.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Oh yeah, 100%. You know, it's funny, I, I was polled the other day by Emerson College. I mentioned this on the air and they asked one of the questions and you know what I should have done? Screen captures of all of them. It didn't occur to me at the time what a, what a numbskull I am. But one of the questions was one of the areas, and they asked several questions about this is what are the greatest threats to our democracy? First of all, do you believe our democracy is not threatened, Slightly threatened, somewhat threatened, very threatened, or it's already over and Hitler's in the White House. And I was somewhere kind of middling that, yeah, it's under stress, definitely. And they had like six or seven choices. What do you think is the biggest threat to our democracy? And one of the choices or what's the most important thing that could be done to help our democracy? And some of the choices were about gerrymandering. They obviously wanted to know about some of the gerrymandering that's been going on and what my opinion was of that and other folks opinions. But one of the choices was repeal Citizens United. The big Supreme Court case about can corporations donate to political campaigns or PACs or whatever. And I thought, oh my God, if you still think Citizens United is why money has perverted politics. You know, the 2003 just called and wants its analysis back. I mean, come on, it's small donations from individuals. Ford Motor Company is a hell of a lot more steady going and reliable than the average, you know, American who gets whipped up for 10 minutes and hits the send button. Yeah, exactly. This is so dumb. And walks away. I'm going to do that more in my life.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, this is dumb. I run into that a lot. So the flu shot made you feel sick? You didn't feel like you got the flu?

[Jack Armstrong]

A little bit, yeah. Yeah. Mostly I'm just exhausted. But my body is mounted an immune response. It's a good sign. I got a good vital immune system. It's ready to go. Come On.

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[Joe Getty]

Diseases. How often does the flu vaccine make people fluish?

[Jack Armstrong]

Most of the time, pretty frequently. I don't know, my. My blushing bride got it a few weeks ago and she felt nothing. Of course, you know they have the immune system. I like a bull moose.

[Joe Getty]

Well, so you're portraying it. So it's a good thing if you get sick, that means it's working.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And if you don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Necessarily a bad thing if you don't get much of a reaction. But yeah. The reason you have a reaction is your body says, oh, a pathogen. Yes, and fires up its responses. The idea being if it comes to you for real, it's already got a standing army. Your body's already has id'd the enemy and is ready to fight it. So yeah, it's fine. Little extra strength Tylenol and I'm back in the game.

[Joe Getty]

And you don't think they put a chip in you or something when you got the flu shot?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I assume they did.

[Joe Getty]

Mark of the Beast or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bill Gates. Yeah, and Satan working together hand in hand through Anthony Fauci.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. And it all started on Epstein's island.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's right. That's a nice job. Nice job tying it together.

[Joe Getty]

We have something we're going to play coming back. Oh, a funny joke from last night. Making fun.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, did you mention the Jews or were you implying that when you mentioned Epstein?

[Joe Getty]

I wasn't implying Jews at all, but.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, because you got to rope that into your own encompassing. Oh, by the way, somebody burning down a synagogue in Mississippi, or was it Memphis? I think it was Mississippi. If that was a mosque, that would be the biggest story in America.

[Joe Getty]

No kidding. No kidding. What the hell?

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey liberals. Why are you so willingly cooperating? You call every frickin buddy a Nazi and somebody's going after the Jews. Maybe that rings a bell and you're silent. Oh my God, you people make me insane.

[Joe Getty]

The burning down of mosque would be. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

President would have to give an oval office address. But no Jews are targeted all across America and nothing happens. It disgusts me.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, I don't want anything to happen to any place of worship. But I thought it was interesting in my town that they now have a giant very sturdy fence around the Jewish campus where they never had it before. Their house of worship. And a couple other things they got there. In the decades I've lived there, you could just walk onto the campus and attend whatever you need to attend. Now there's a gate and you gotta go, you know somebody and they let you in everything like that. And just down the same street there's the mosque and ain't it don't need.

[Jack Armstrong]

No fence in a very progressive part of America.

[Joe Getty]

And I don't want any of them to need a fence.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of course not. No. I think we see, we absolutely get your point.

[Joe Getty]

One of the funny jokes from Golden Globes last night, among other things on the way we will finish strong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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NFL playoffs are here and Wild Card Weekend powered by Verizon is almost through.

[Joe Getty]

Man, it all comes down to this.

[NFL Announcer]

The stakes are high, hopes are higher, and everything is is on the line. My goodness, it's win or go home and every moment counts on the road to Super Bowl 60. It's a touchdown Wild Card Weekend powered by Verizon today at 8pm Eastern. Visit watch.NFL.com for the full schedule.

[Jacob Goldstein]

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[Armstrong]

Sean Penn is also here. Hi, Sean. I love you, Sean. You're such an original. You know, everyone in this town is obsessed with looking younger. Meanwhile, Sean Penn is like, what if I slowly morph into a sexy leather handbag? And I feel like that's. It's hot.

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[Armstrong]

Not only such an amazing actor, but you're such a devoted humanitarian. I mean, I feel like a lot of actors talk the talk, but Sean Penn will actually go to the places in the world that need help the most, and he will do cocaine there. And I feel like we don't celebrate that enough. And Sean, I did get permission to tell that joke from your two best friends, Charlie Sheen and El Chapo. So they say hi. Blame it on that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Wow, that's pretty amusing. Is Sean Penn in that controversial movie we've been talking?

[Joe Getty]

I think so. Yeah. It's a huge star power in that movie.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

One Battle after Another is the name of the movie.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good Friend of the Armstrong. You get a show. And of mine personally said, you know, if you go in with it's really woke, then you'll see it that way. I enjoyed it. Leo's terrific and Sean Penn is amazing. And he's also from Sacramento, California, and says, I just really like seeing Sacramento in movies.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because remember, Leo DiCaprio filmed some big scenes, I guess, downtown.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, right, right, right, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

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[Joe Getty]

I'm not. I wish that woman hadn't been shot in the head and weren't dead in Minneapolis. I wish I hadn't gone that way. And especially because she's got a couple kids and then she's got that loud mouth, long day, wife of hers. If you've seen that video, jeez, you seem like a peach. Anyway, people started to go fund me.

[Jack Armstrong]

For.

[Joe Getty]

The wife, and it's now at a million and a half dollars.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, hey, there you go.

[Joe Getty]

That'll help with raising the kids, which she'll need because I don't trust her judgment on a lot of things.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, in Fact, she carefully said I made her come down here, it's my fault. Yeah, but now she's got a million and a half dollars. Many, many people have been murdered for million and a half dollar insurance policies in human history.

[Joe Getty]

The whole gunman gofundme thing is an interesting wrinkle in the modern world, isn't it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, please.

[Joe Getty]

I mean the, the, the incredible justice that sometimes that is done where something unfortunate happens to somebody or really unfair usually, yeah, happens to somebody and we all feel bad and you know, GoFundMe gets going on for a couple of bucks, all of a sudden that person's taken care of. But then there's all kinds of people you hate. Last thing they should get is rewarded. And then I go fund me bails them out.

[Jack Armstrong]

And America's become one big like weird jury where two people get in a screaming match in an airport, one of them gets doxed and run out of their job and the other one gets rich. So I hadn't heard a game show, a weird, never ending game show.

[Joe Getty]

I want to talk about a post Elon made on his Twitter in the One More Thing podcast in which he's suggesting some sort of romance between humans and Tesla robots. You know, that's his new thing now, is not the cars, but the robots. Really? That's interesting. It can't be because he's big on human beings. The whole populate Mars thing is to keep human, human, humans alive.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, he's bred himself an army as well.

[Joe Getty]

Elon announced the other day. Well, yeah, speaking of his kid, his 13th child. Elon announced the other day he's filing for full custody of his one year old son because of things that the mom has said implying she might support transitioning the young boy. Oh, kids won. And so he's bringing all his legal and financial expertise to bear to try to get full custody. Kid. How horrifying would that be if you're in some sort of dispute with your co parent and that they want to transition your kid. Oh my God. It is now my incredible privilege to present final thoughts with these moron Armstrong and Gettys Donald Trump weighing in on our show. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show for the day. Why not Michelangelo, our technical director. Michael, what's your final thought? Yeah, my final thought was I don't know why on January 1st I'm supposed.

[Joe Getty]

To have healthy eating.

[Jack Armstrong]

I forget about the NFL playoffs and stuff. And I eat very poorly during January. So I gotta start it on like March 1st.

[Joe Getty]

There you go.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's more practical. Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie, There's a new katie's [e-mail] we.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Chief of Chicago Police standing with ice.

[Joe Getty]

And then China driverless delivery vans going rogue.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my good Lord. Jack, final thought for us.

[Joe Getty]

How awesome was that football over the weekend? How did the NFL get the sport dialed in the way they have to? Where practically every game come down to the last play?

[Jack Armstrong]

The fixes in.

[Joe Getty]

This is amazing. It's sure fun to watch though.

[Jack Armstrong]

My final thought in our pre show meeting today, we're both excited to hear that there was audio about monkeys roaming the streets of St. Louis. And then we never got to it. We said we need more of that and we never got to it. It's just a reminder to stop and smell the monkeys.

[Joe Getty]

Well, we are going to be cleaning out the sound fridge for the One More Thing podcast. So we'll get to that stuff then.

[Jack Armstrong]

Excellent. Yeah, that's great.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

So many people.

[Joe Getty]

Thanks.

[Jack Armstrong]

A little time. Go To Armstrong and getty.com not only do you have Katie Corner, you got the hot links. You got our email address mailbagarmstrongetty.com you ought to be following us or subscribing to the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

[Joe Getty]

That's pretty cool. I hope this week's better than last week or at least calmer than last week. We will see. We'll see you tomorrow. God bless America. They meet every day and talk about.

[NFL Announcer]

A way the world has gone astray.

[Joe Getty]

Jack and Joe, they mixing jokes for.

[Jack Armstrong]

All your good folks and podcast it.

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For later in the day. Jack and Joe subscribe to the podcast Armstrong and G on Demand. The NFL Playoffs are here and Wild Card Weekend powered by Verizon is almost through.

[Joe Getty]

Man. It all comes down to this.

[NFL Announcer]

The stakes are high, hopes are higher, and everything is on the line.

[Jack Armstrong]

My goodness.

[NFL Announcer]

It's win or go home and every moment counts on the road to Super Bowl 60. It's a touchdown Wild Card Weekend power powered by Verizon today at 8pm Eastern. Visit watch.NFL.com for the full schedule.

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