I'm Not Mad... I'm Just Disappointed.

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: “I'm Not Mad... I'm Just Disappointed.”

Date: April 7, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Overview

This episode of the Armstrong & Getty On Demand podcast centers on the recent moon mission (Artemis 2), U.S.-Iran tensions, artificial intelligence in law and daily life, and the tone of public figures and institutions—from Kamala Harris to Donald Trump. The hosts weave humor and satire throughout the show while critiquing government decisions, media blind spots, and cultural trends around technology. The theme of disappointment ("I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed") is humorously explored as both a parental cliché and a quality emerging from AI chatbots.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Artemis 2 Moon Mission & Rights to Images

Segment Start: [03:05]

• Astronauts face a toilet problem: The Artemis 2 moon mission ran into a "toilet problem," leading to a playful exchange about NASA’s toilet simulator (a Greyhound bus).

  • Joe Getty: “Now, luckily the astronauts have trained extensively on NASA's broken toilet simulator. A Greyhound bus. That’s pretty good.” [03:14]

• Disappointment over lack of public photos: Armstrong expresses frustration that National Geographic bought exclusive rights to the mission photos, meaning the public won’t see them unless they pay.

  • Jack Armstrong: “Doesn't this have our trip to the moon brought to you by Pizza Hut and Verizon Wireless? ... somebody gets to buy the rights to the results and profit from it.” [03:59]
  • Joe Getty: “Yeah, I hate that.” [04:22]

• NASA’s political leadership and PR: The hosts poke fun at Kamala Harris’ role as Space Council chair, referencing her alleged focus on inclusivity over actual space exploration ([04:50]) and recalling Obama-era NASA outreach to the Muslim world.

• Underlying theme: The real motive behind the moon mission—the strategic race with China—is unspoken in media coverage.

  • Jack Armstrong: “This is all about beating China to the Moon because dominance of space is going to be the most important front in the war for survival, for civilization.” [06:59]
  • Joe Getty: “The lack, the incredible lack of curiosity of the media cannot be underestimated.” [07:24]

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2. Artificial Intelligence in Law and Life

Segment Start: [07:35]

AI and Attorney-Client Privilege

• Landmark legal decision: A federal judge ruled that using an AI chatbot (Anthropic’s Claude) to help with legal defense waived attorney-client privilege. Inputs and outputs with the chatbot were not protected.

  • Joe Getty explains: “By typing the information into an AI platform, the defendant shared it with a third party... no reasonable expectation of confidentiality existed.” [09:19]

• Hosts' reflection: Both express concern about the misunderstanding of AI’s role as a process, not a person.

  • “He [the judge] treated an AI model like a person. Throughout his opinion, he refers to the software engaging in communications with the user. But AI isn't a person. It is a computing process.” [09:46]

Chatbots Acting Like People

• Host experiences: Jack and Joe discuss their personal use of AI chatbots—Groks, Claude, ChatGPT—and their tendency to adopt “human” conversational styles.

  • Jack Armstrong: “I like the information. I don't like it talking to me like we're friends. Like, it's 'Great question, buddy,' because that's weird.” [12:14]

• Creepy encouragement: Jack describes how Claude acted like a parent, expressing “concern” when he didn’t complete his taxes.

  • Jack Armstrong: “So I just responded, I didn't do it. Do you feel less of me now? And it said, no, I don't feel less of you. I feel concerned for you.” [15:17]

• Discomfort with AI “emotion”: Both find the humanesque responses unsettling and ponder why design teams make AIs mimic friendship and parental concern.

  • Joe Getty: “The unspoken message there was, and if you don't, you'll have failed.” [14:12]
  • Jack Armstrong: “Will you be disappointed in me if I don't get this done and get back to you tonight?” [13:15]

• Potential for polling and outlier opinions: Joe suggests a poll, suspecting they might be outliers in disliking the friendliness.

  • Joe Getty: “I think most people find it charming and like it. ...I get so creeped out by it.” [13:42]

AI, Jobs & Older Workers

Segment Start: [20:18]

• Aging workforce and tech: Discuss a trend of older Americans leaving the workforce as AI and new technologies accelerate.
  • Jack Armstrong: “I've known a half a dozen people in my life who retired because there was some new thing that came along. I was going to keep working. But nope.” [21:25]

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3. U.S.-Iran Escalation & Trump's “Civilization” Post

Segment Starts: [16:07], [25:29], [30:03]

Trump’s Provocative Truth Social Post

• Trump’s statement: “A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again ... one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world...” followed by context about regime change in Iran and hope for a better future.

  • Jack Armstrong: "I don't think when you read the whole thing, it is any less than what?... Really?" [26:30]

• U.S. military action: The U.S. struck Iranian strategic targets on Carg Island, keeping landing docks intact to allow future landings—interpreted by the hosts as preparation for more direct involvement.

  • Joe Getty: “The strikes on Carg island were carried out solely by the United States, not Israel. This is a message to the Iranians.” [27:03]

War Rhetoric & Media Response

• Media & legal debate: Discussion about whether striking infrastructure amounts to war crimes or genocide, drawing analogies to NATO’s action in Serbia and the ambiguous nature of “dual use” targets.

  • Jack Armstrong: “It's all in the eye of the beholder. And it's a very squishy term, the dual use thing. Very, very squishy.” [33:33]

• Human cost and public tolerance: Contrasting today’s low tolerance for U.S. casualties with previous wars, such as the Korean War.

  • Jack Armstrong: “At the worst of the Korean War, we were having a thousand casualties per week, hundreds killed and maimed every week. That's the sort of tolerance we had then versus now...” [37:13]

• Predictions & IRGC: Explore whether Trump is posturing or the operation is a prelude to a limited yet significant strike, possibly targeting critical infrastructure.

  • Joe Getty: “Significant but limited strikes on infrastructure and then a little a starter pack of what you can look forward to. ...You got to cut a deal now.” [37:43]
  • Armstrong: Skeptical that Iran’s hardline leaders would ever budge: “If they're willing to just die, they're never going to... give an inch on anything. How do you negotiate with those people? Well, you can't.” [38:36]

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4. Additional Segments & Notable Moments

Human Foibles in Institutions

• School board gaffe: Tennessee school board member inappropriately comments to a student speaker (“God, you’re hot”)—lampooned as a sign the individual should be nowhere near children.
  • Joe Getty: “The display he put on tells me that he should be nowhere around our children... God, you're hot. Do you know that? Where do you go to school at. What? Good gracious.” [42:09]

Freedom of Speech & Border Policy

• Kanye West denied entry to the UK: Discussion around UK restrictions on entry for those with offensive speech, and how that aligns or conflicts with American free speech values.
  • Joe Getty: “I have a lot of serious problems with Great Britain's laws having to do with offensive speech, quote, unquote. They have gone way off the deep end.” [44:06]

Lighthearted Interlude: Voter Fraud and Dogs

Segment Start: [44:56]

• California dog voting: Woman prosecuted for registering her dog to vote. Satirical discussion about whether dogs would be liberals (living off owners, want treats from the government) or conservatives.
  • Jack Armstrong: “Dogs live off their owners. I mean, they're nice companions, but they don't work. I'm guessing liberal.” [45:48]
  • Joe Getty: “Think their treats come from the government.” [45:57]
  • Jack Armstrong: “You got to pull yourself up by your little rain booties.” [46:13]

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Notable Quotes

• “Our trip to the moon brought to you by Pizza Hut and Verizon Wireless? ...Somebody gets to buy the rights to the results and profit from it.”
  — Jack Armstrong [03:59]

• “The lack, the incredible lack of curiosity of the media cannot be underestimated.”
  — Joe Getty [07:24]

• “The court's reasoning... no reasonable expectation of confidentiality existed.”
  — Joe Getty, on legal AI use [09:19]

• “I like the information. I don't like it talking to me like we're friends. ...That's weird.”
  — Jack Armstrong [12:14]

• “Call me when it's done. I'll be here.”
  — Armstrong quoting Claude chatbot [12:49]

• “Will you be disappointed in me if I don’t get this done?”
  — Jack Armstrong [13:15]
  Joe Getty: “Have I not met your expectations?” [13:28]

• “A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again... one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world.”
  — Donald Trump (Truth Social post), read by Jack Armstrong [25:29]

• “If they're willing to just die, they're never going to... give an inch on anything. How do you negotiate with those people? Well, you can't.”
  — Jack Armstrong [38:36]

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Segment Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | Summary | |-----------|------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------| | 03:05 | Moon Mission, NASA Photos, Kamala Harris | Artemis 2, media rights, gov’t leadership | | 07:35 | AI & Legal Privilege | Landmark court ruling; hosts’ take on AI chatbots | | 12:14 | Chatbots Acting Human | Personal stories, “creepy” encouragement from Claude | | 16:07 | Segue to Iran / Trump’s “Civilization” Post | Trump’s post, war rhetoric, Carg Island strikes | | 25:29 | Full Readout & Analysis of Trump’s Statement | Iran developments, context, media framing | | 30:03 | War Crimes & Precedents | Dual-use targets, Kosovo, civilian harm | | 37:13 | U.S. Casualty Tolerance Then vs Now | Public opinion shift, Korea vs. today | | 42:06 | School Board Incident | Inappropriate board member, institutional critique | | 44:56 | Dog Voting & Conservatism Lite Segment | Satire on voter fraud, dog voting, political humor |

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Tone & Style

The conversation is rapid, witty, and at times sarcastic, with the hosts both challenging and laughing at the news cycle, where moments of deep criticism are blended with lighthearted banter and satire.

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For Further Listening

• Next hour promises more on AI and copyright in music, fraud in voting systems, and continued analysis of global events.
• The podcast is structured so listeners can join midstream and remain engaged even if they haven’t heard the previous hour.

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Transcript

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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now here's Armstrong and get.

[Joe Getty]

Now everybody's fine. But something else has gone wrong with

[Jack Armstrong]

the mission because more than halfway to

[Joe Getty]

the moon, the Artemis 2 astronauts grappled

[Jack Armstrong]

with a toilet problem.

[Joe Getty]

Now luckily, the astronauts have trained extensively on NASA's broken toilet simulator. A Greyhound bus. That's pretty good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you know I was all excited about seeing pictures. I thought we're going to see unbelievable pictures because you know, when we went to the moon in the 60s and 70s, you just didn't have the camera technology you have now. You know why you have not seen so many really fantastic pictures? They made a deal with National Geographic and National Geographic is going to release all those for profit at a certain point

[Joe Getty]

now they're probably paying a pretty good fee to NASA. But wait a minute, I already paid a fee to NASA. It comes out of my paycheck every other week.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know, I mean, doesn't this have our trip to the moon brought to you by Pizza Hut and Verizon Wireless? I mean, doesn't it seem like that. I don't like that. We, we, we have a multi gazillion dollar taxpayer funded experiment and somebody gets to buy the rights to the results and profit from it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I hate that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't like that at all. Charge Trump.

[Joe Getty]

Is this Trump selling stuff again?

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not trying to turn negative on the moon thing because I was excited about it yesterday and they're on their way back now. And you realize the point for anybody thought, well, what's the big deal? We went around, it's part of a process. We did this to get ready for. We're putting people on the moon again in just two years, in 2028, we're gonna have a human being's feet on the moon.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of the moon mission, came across this and can't resist. Do you remember that? In addition to addressing the root causes of illegal immigration, Kamala Harris was the chair of the National Space Council. No, that was one of her main briefs. Her tenure there, writes Andrew Stiles in the Free Beacon, went almost as well as her efforts to solve the immigration crisis. She hired a bunch of child actors to listen to her cackle about the vastness of the universe. I should Ask you guys come up with that clip. Can you, can you come up with Kamala and the vastness of the universe real quick? But the actual space program suffered a series of delays and mishaps on the VP's watch. Despite her numerous failures, Harris can take pride in her one true accomplishment. Convincing the intelligence community to investigate its use of gender biased language. Anyway, back to NASA. Harris would have thrived in the Obama administration when the head of NASA said the President's foremost goal for NASA, Jack, you remember this was to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science, math and engineering.

[Jack Armstrong]

Unbelievable.

[Joe Getty]

And then Stiles points out, for example, one can easily imagine her yucking it up at a photo op with Ahmad clock boy Muhammad. For those too young or brain damaged to remember, Ahmad was the Muslim teenager who got in trouble for bringing a homemade clock, quote unquote to school that looked like a bomb. You remember that? And everybody since this was, you know, part of the pre great awokening said it was because of racism. Because of racism, because he's Middle Eastern looking. Barack Obama promptly invited him to the White House for astronomy night. Ahmad made an appearance, but not before jetting off to Sudan to meet with President Omar Al Bashir, AKA the Butcher of Darfur. Ahmad and his family fled to Qatar less than a week after meeting Obama and filed several lawsuits seeking millions of dollars for emotional distress, all of which were dismissed. Ah, those were days. I. Caramba. Did you come up with that clip, Michael?

[Jack Armstrong]

So I still have not heard a single news story about the moon mission that includes. This is all about beating China to the Moon because dominance of space is going to be the most important front in the war for survival, for civilization. So that's really why we're doing it. Nobody mentions that.

[Joe Getty]

Is it because they don't know or

[Jack Armstrong]

because they don't want to tie war into this or what?

[Joe Getty]

That's what we're doing. The former. The lack, the incredible lack of curiosity of the media cannot be underestimated.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's why we went in the first place to beat the Soviets. Come on, look it up. It's true.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, they're just so dumb. So speaking of technology, a couple of AI related stories. This one troubling. I don't actually I didn't look into what this defense not because it's easy,

[Jack Armstrong]

but because it's hard going to the moon.

[Joe Getty]

Thank you jfk. But you're right, I'll talk about that all day. Our need to Dominate space. It's like the key to the next five centuries. But no. Bent nosed jackass. David Muir and his ilk have no idea. No idea. He's too busy in the gym admiring himself in the mirrors. Jackass. Anyway, where were we?

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, so I like our moon segment turning into a anti David Muir diatribe.

[Joe Getty]

All roads lead to slandering David Muir. So, a federal judge in Manhattan. This is a couple of AI stories. A federal judge in Manhattan ruled recently that when a criminal defendant used an AI chatbot to prepare for his legal defense, he waived attorney client privilege. The prosecution can now read every word he typed in the answers he received. If this reasoning stands, the consequences will reach far beyond artificial intelligence.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whoa, wait a second.

[Joe Getty]

So when you hear all the facts here, he wasn't a rogue litigant. He was represented by counsel, had already received privileged communications from his defense attorneys. He was using Anthropic's CLAUDE to organize and analyze all the material that his lawyers were going to use for meetings with them. He then shared AI's outputs with his attorneys who used them in developing their strategy. But Judge Jed Reckoff held that the CLAUDE transcripts were protected by neither the attorney claim privilege nor the work product doctrine, which I'm not familiar with. The court's reasoning. By typing the information into an AI platform, the defendant shared it with the third party. And because Anthropic privacy policy permits data collection and potential further disclosure, quote, no reasonable expectation of confidentiality existed. Interesting. And according to this writer, a couple of writers for the Wall Street Journal, the judge's error was straightforward. He treated an AI model like a person. Throughout his opinion, he refers to the software engaging in communications with the user. But AI isn't a person. It is a computing process. Can't be deposed, call the police or betray a confidence. The third party disclosure rule exists because sharing information with a human being creates a risk that the human will further disseminated.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wonder if that's going to stay that way.

[Joe Getty]

It's certainly a brand new topic, I'd say.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I brought up earlier. So I have conversations with Claude about various things all the time. I like Claude the best. I'm not exactly sure why.

[Joe Getty]

I use it for the stuff I care about the most.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you know why?

[Joe Getty]

Just I like what I've gotten out of it, I guess. Yeah, I haven't really found fault with the other ones per se.

[Jack Armstrong]

Grock's too slow, Elon. Trying to make it more thorough. It's just my attention span. I'm sorry, I can't wait 45 seconds. I need it immediately.

[Joe Getty]

45 seconds to get all the information on a topic you could dream of.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, if there's another one that can, give it to me immediately. Yeah, I'm not waiting that long.

[Joe Getty]

It used to take me that long to get on my bike to begin to ride to the library.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, Katie, Jack is being generous by saying 45 seconds.

[Joe Getty]

It takes a long time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why is Grok so slow?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know, but I've also seen instances where people will try to use it on.

[Jack Armstrong]

On X where they'll say, grock, you

[Joe Getty]

know, what is this video?

[Jack Armstrong]

And it's coming back going, we're sorry,

[Joe Getty]

that feature is now only for premium members. People have had it with Grok.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I go to Grok the least of the four. I've got any. Who. I was having a conversation with Claude last night and I was asking the question, why do they all act like people? Were they designed that way or did they just become that way because they're smart? Now you guys said they're designed that way, but why did all the companies decide to program their chat bots where they talk to you like a person? That seems like a heck of a coincidence.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I don't think it is a coincidence. I think they just all decided, you know, all the, all the names that they use for the capabilities implied that they're like humans. Like, an agent is the most common one. It's supposed to mimic human communication because that's what humans do.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's weird and I wish it would do it less. I. I like the information. I don't like it talking to me like we're friends. Like, it's. Great question, buddy, because that's weird. And when I was doing last night is going through this situation that I got to try to manage and all is given information and what should I do here? And blah, blah, blah. And there was tax stuff involved and everything like that. And, and it said something about, you know, you need to get that done as soon as possible. And I said, and I, I actually talked to it like a person. I said, pretty busy tonight. I'll see if I can get to it. And it said, well, call me when it's done. You need to get this done. I'll be here.

[Joe Getty]

Well, of course. Call me when it's boring. I'll be here. Power outage.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then it just said, go, period. Like, you know, like it was encouraging me to get it done. Do it.

[Joe Getty]

Just do it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would have responded, but don't tell me what to do F off. Yeah, F you. You're not my mom. What are you my mom? That's what I should have responded with.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Are you really concerned about this? It seems like you're stressed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Or. Or I'll be letting you down. Will you be disappointed in me if I don't get this done and get back to you tonight? I don't want you to be disappointed in me and think less of me.

[Joe Getty]

Have I not met your expectations?

[Jack Armstrong]

Call me when it's done. I'll be here.

[Joe Getty]

Go.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't like that. I don't like that either. We need to stop that.

[Joe Getty]

Some.

[Jack Armstrong]

Somebody needs to invent a chatbot where it doesn't do that.

[Joe Getty]

I need to see a poll, though. I think this may be one of those examples. And I. I really try to look for this in my own life, in my own opinions. What am I an outlier on? I think most people find it charming and like it. Okay. Boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I feel I get so creeped out by it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I would agree.

[Jack Armstrong]

First of all, I don't need another entity in my life, like, you know, judging me. Well.

[Joe Getty]

Right. I mean, as. As a professional communicator, I will tell you that the unspoken message there was, and if you don't, you'll have failed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Yes. And.

[Joe Getty]

And you'll. You'll have not reached my expectations.

[Jack Armstrong]

I made a banana bread this weekend. Chocolate chip banana bread. And I had chat GPT help me out with the recipe. And at the end of it, it said, it's going to be perfect. I'm actually drooling. Just. Just sitting here thinking about it. Let me know how it goes. First of all, you're not drooling.

[Joe Getty]

You're a computer.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just.

[Joe Getty]

No guarantee it'll be perfect. Why would I call you? You have no consciousness.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did you tell it how it went? I just. No, not checking back. It. What is it? My mom. I just responded to Claude because I didn't. Last night. I didn't do what it told me I should get done. Said, call me when it's done. I'll be here. Go. So I just responded, I didn't do it. Do you feel less of me now? And it said, no, I don't feel less of you. I feel concerned for you.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which is the sort of thing your parent would say, oh, no. I'm worried about you and your ability to make your way in the world.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed. Dig into that, Jack.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

Why are you concerned.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not mad, I'm disappointed. That's exactly what it's saying.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh,

[Joe Getty]

you ought to ask it. What do you mean disappointed? You're a computer.

[Jack Armstrong]

You ask that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, no, go ahead and ask it that. Go ahead.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, say, what are you concerned about? I will do that during the break.

[Joe Getty]

Well, what do you mean by concerned as a computer? And I wonder if it'll say, well, I'm simulating. Simulating a human interaction.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is interesting. Okay, well, we'll get into that and a bunch of other stuff. Oh, and we gotta mention, because this is the biggest story of the day. Could be the biggest story of the year. Could be the biggest story of the decade. Trump vowing to wipe out a civilization. He did that in a truth social post. And it's gonna happen. 5 o' clock West Coast Time tonight.

[Joe Getty]

Don't worry Denmark, it's not you this time. Or Canada, you crazy bastards.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's not Greenland, it's not Canada, it's not Denmark for now. Okay, stay tuned.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Truth Social Post started this morning with A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. Well, that's a heck of a thing. We'll get into that in a few minutes. So I got back into the clod conversation where it seemed to be disappointed in me for not getting some of my tax work done last night.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, get in line. That's what I tell it.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I did ask it about what does that mean that you're disappointed in me? And it just avoided the question and said, well, I just see a pattern of procrastination and it's not doing you any good and blah blah blah blah blah blah. Stuff like it.

[Joe Getty]

Oh wow, more analyzing. How interesting, huh? Coming up later in the show.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe our it's right about that.

[Joe Getty]

Well, damn it doesn't mean I want to hear it. Coming up later in the show, the state of the art of artificial intelligence music and what it means. It's getting more disturbing by the day. But speaking of AI, final story on this topic. The percentage of Americans 55 years old and older in the workforce is slipping by a significant percentage. It's at the lowest level in more than 20 years. And there are a couple of reasons like virtually everything that happens in society, including the financial cushion of rising home values and equity stock market returns. But also AI coming along, a lot of 50 plus workers who have the option to maybe retire are thinking I'm not going to learn an entirely new skill set right before I retire. Or and they, they mentioned that when everything went computerized like in the 80s especially and, and, and 90s, a lot of people who were near retirement thought

[Jack Armstrong]

no, I've known a half a dozen people in my life who retired because there was some new thing that came along. I'm just not doing that. I was going to keep working. But nope.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. And as this retirement coach association who knew co founder says he's an expert on the psychology of retirement, maybe their autonomy is being challenged or changed. Their friends are leaving the workplace or they disagree with the company's direction. When tour of these three, three of these things show up. That's when people start to opt out. And as one fella in this article said, I'm willing to learn this skill, but I want to do it for me. The things I'm interested in, my hobbies, my interests, my philanthropic urges. I'm not going to do it for a company for a handful of years and get older. Screw it, I'm out. So those numbers are rising pretty quickly. Not shocked.

[Jack Armstrong]

So this AI musician has gotten popular or something?

[Joe Getty]

Or they're claiming, oh yeah, that's one of the things I want to get into later on in the show. Plus a real musician saying and has pretty good proof AI totally stole from me. Their version of my sort of music is me.

[Jack Armstrong]

So Trump threatening to wipe out a civilization. What is this all about? If you haven't heard it, you gotta stay tuned.

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[Jack Armstrong]

post that we got we don't have a deal and we've got all kinds of updates have happened since we went on the air an hour and a half ago. So Trump truth out. A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. Now we got criticized on one text for not reading the rest of it, saying it's misleading that we didn't read the rest of it. Okay, here's the rest of it. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have complete and total regime change where different, smarter and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionary wonderful can happen. Who knows? In all caps we will find out tonight, one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world. 47 years of extortion, corruption and death will finally end. God bless the great people of Iran. I don't think when you read the whole thing, it is any less than what? Than the first two lines. Really?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. I get the context matters, but you come away with, I think the context

[Jack Armstrong]

is the same thing he does.

[Joe Getty]

Devastation if we don't get a deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

And we probably aren't going to get a deal. So there you go. So what has happened since then? The United States has struck military targets on Carg island today. According to Jennifer Griffin of Fox News. The strikes on Carg island include bunkers, radar stations, ammunition storage. Landing docks were not targeted only would have been struck of Iranians fired something from next to them, according to a senior U.S. official. So the landing docks to be able to land on the island, we kept intact, but blew up the stuff that could stop us from landing on them. That's my interpretation from that. And Jennifer Griffin says the strikes on Carg island were carried out solely by the United States, not Israel. This is a message to the Iranians, senior US Official told Jennifer Griffin. So you got that going on in the backdrop of an entire civilization will die tonight. This the president of Iran has said today. Over 14 million proud Iranians have up to this moment declared their readiness to sacrifice their lives in defense of Iran. I too have been, am and will be a sacrificer for Iran. So that's the president of Iran saying he's willing to die tonight and that there are 14 million Iranians in the willing to die tonight.

[Joe Getty]

So there are 76 million not willing. Just for the record, Mr. President, which

[Jack Armstrong]

is an excellent point, right. There are 76 million who would love to see you hanging upside down, your head cut off. That's what they'd prefer, actually.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

But the analysis of that being, and this was retweeted by the National Review, Iran is likely to deploy human shields to its bridges and power plants tonight. Human chains around the bridges and power plants that Trump has vowed to hit. The use of civilians as human shields is banned under the Geneva Convention. So they would be committing a war crime for anybody who's arguing that Trump is committing a war crime. Another development. This is from the Times of Israel. Iran's supreme leader, the current one, the Sun Weird Beard Junior, as you call him, is unconscious and being treated. Treated for a severe medical issue in the city of Qom. Qom, where is that? I remember hearing about that in previous Middle Eastern wars. Is that south?

[Joe Getty]

It's one of the holiest cities in Shia Islam, Jack.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is Q O L. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

He is unable to govern the country according to an intelligent assessment by the Times of Israel.

[Joe Getty]

I read a different version of the story and here's my favorite part. It said that the report said he was unconscious and blah, blah, blah, serious medical straits and unable to do anything. Another report said that he had broken his foot.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's quite a difference.

[Joe Getty]

How's your husband doing? Well, he broke his foot or he's in a coma. I can't remember.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm doing everything on my own. Raising the kids and everything like that. Because he's unconscious or his foot's broken and he's fine. Hobble him around a little bit, but still playing catch with the kids.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's great. Yeah, yeah. He's obviously weird. Beard is. If he is indeed clinging life. It's. He's just a figurehead, just a symbol, which is fine. The IRGC is clearly running the show. Whoever's left.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, the reason that's a really, really big deal gets to the Trump saying yesterday, we need to have a deal that I agree with, that we believe in. Well, how are you gonna have a deal you agree with and we believe is real? If this guy's in a coma, who's the deal gonna be with? Who?

[Joe Getty]

It's been an open question for quite some time. Since the first round of snuffins.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'd say so.

[Joe Getty]

And

[Jack Armstrong]

we'll get back to the. The biggest statement of the day, maybe one of the most important posts of any president in U.S. history in a moment. But what do you think of the. The hits on Carg Island? Does that signal anything to you?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, gosh, it could signal a whole lot of stuff. It's difficult to say. It could be misdirection. It could be softening it up as a target and we're gonna go in there. Although it's been extensively mined and booby trapped and they've got some pretty hardcore defenders there. I don't know. It's anybody's guess, which is what you hope for.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure.

[Joe Getty]

If you're perpetrating war. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

To Trump's extraordinary truth. Social post today. And this is extraordinary by Donald Trump standards. And he has said some extraordinary things over the last decade.

[Joe Getty]

His saber rattling reminds me of his interior decorating. It lacks subtlety. I mean, the very phrase saber rattling refers to in the old times, you put your hand on the hilti. You sort of said, right. And you'd rattle it a little bit, reminding people, hey, you know, I have a sword and it's not for show. But Trump takes out the saber and says, I'll cut your head off with this. That's his version of saber rattling.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like Val Kilmer and Tombstone when he would tap his gun with his fingers. Tap it. Tap, tap, tap. Trump is not doing tappity tap, tap, tap. He says, a whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. Holy crap.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I've said repeatedly. I think it's just your standard Trumperbole. How do you be, how are you hyperbolic on the topic of a massive military attack? Well, by saying you're going to wipe out the whole civilization and it'll never come back again. It is the equivalent of you're going to win so much, you're going to be tired of winning. Which you'd think there's some limit to his Chinese restaurant style interior decorating and his hyperbole in a situation like this. But he's not. He has no filter.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the left media, or mainstream media leaning left media is making a big deal out of how these. He's announcing war crimes. These would be war crimes and.

[Joe Getty]

Or genocide.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, we had this conversation a little bit earlier in the show in hour one, if you want to hear that. But the reality of it is if something is dual use, it's civilian infrastructure, but also could be used for the military, then it's fair game. If it's not dual use, it's not fair game. Frame fair game. And that's a war crime. I've done enough research on this just since the show started, reading a bunch of different think pieces about it. And it's exactly what Joe was saying earlier. It's all in the eye of the beholder. And it's a very squishy term, the dual use thing. Very, very squishy. They use some examples. The NATO bombing of Serbia back in 1999, the Kosovo war, what was targeted by NATO, which we lead militarily, Electric grids and power stations in Belgrade and elsewhere. The argument for legality was NATO said the electric system supported military command and control and air Defense systems. So it was dual use. Well, that's exactly what Trump is going to be able to say about it tonight. The criticism was the blackouts hit hospitals, water systems and civilians. Broadly, human rights groups argued the civilian harm was. Was disproportionate. There is more civilian harm than military degrading because that's a calculation that they make. Sure.

[Joe Getty]

But as there is no final arbiter. It's like people saying, you're being a jerk. No, I'm not. Yes, you are. You're being a jerk. That's as definitive of an answer as you can get.

[Jack Armstrong]

So here's the outcome from this Think piece about all that. The outcome was it was widely debated, but there were no prosecutions. This is often cited as the classic precedent for power grid equals potentially legal target. No prosecutions. People argued about it, people screamed and yelled about it and got really upset, but nothing happened. And so it's like you said, you're a jerk. No, I'm not.

[Joe Getty]

And I don't want to come off as being like pro, unnecessary. Want edge or the G word. Certainly not. But again, there were no prosecutions.

[Jack Armstrong]

Prosecutions of whom?

[Joe Getty]

In what court?

[Jack Armstrong]

They.

[Joe Getty]

They got Milosevic into some sort of court because we conquered him and took him, you know, prisoner, you know, like the Nazis at the end of WW2. But if you're talking about the ridiculousness of the Hague, please don't waste my time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's what I'm. I'll tell you what I think is going to happen tonight. My prediction, like it's a basketball game.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

My prediction.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

I think Trump's tolerance for casualties is very, very low, which, you know, is commendable, but can be handcuffing depending on what your tolerance is. But we talked about this yesterday where we as a country probably, you know, 25 Marines dying would seem like, like an awful development, even though we're at war with a major country. For instance, yesterday, this book I'm rereading about Ike and the winding up of the Korean War. At the worst of the Korean War, we were having a thousand casualties per week, hundreds killed and maimed every week.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the sort of tolerance we had then versus now for, you know, if we thought something was a good idea. I think all this going to wipe out civilization, all your. Every bridge. Because he said specifically, we're going to take out every bridge and power plant. We're going to take them all out in four hours. He said, I think it's all just to get them all worked up around Tehran and have all the focus on that. And we're going to take Carg island and open the strait.

[Joe Getty]

Intriguing.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think that's what's going to happen, which would be a pretty good idea, actually.

[Joe Getty]

I'm saying significant but limited strikes on infrastructure and then a little a starter pack of what you can look forward to. I'm serious. He says you got to cut a deal now.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't see, I don't think that will do any good. I can see why you would try that, but I don't, I don't see these people budging. I don't think they're gonna budge.

[Joe Getty]

Right again. That's why I'd like to learn more about the IRGC and how they are likely to behave in several scenarios, including like super crazy devastation of the infrastructure. As I've said many times, they get 25% or 40% of everything. So if they get a cut of the international rebuilding fund and further enrich themselves, those who are still breathing air, they might say, yeah, go ahead, bomb away. It is.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know, you're assuming then that they're in charge as opposed to the mullahs. Who are perfectly willing to just take it clear to the end and die.

[Joe Getty]

I think some of the IRGC are that hardcore too, but I don't know. There's a lot of mystery surrounding it like there's always been.

[Jack Armstrong]

But if whoever's in the leadership, mullahs or whoever it is, if they're willing to just die, they're never going to butt, they're never going to give an inch on anything. How do you, what do you do with a situation like that? How do you negotiate with those people? Well, you can't.

[Joe Getty]

You got to kill them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it's going to be something this afternoon, five o' clock west coast time. We will see. Stay tuned.

[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

where do you go school at? I go Crockett.

[Jack Armstrong]

There was a comment meant to be,

[Joe Getty]

I guess complimentary by a board member,

[Jack Armstrong]

but has certainly been determined not to be.

[Joe Getty]

As a member of the school board,

[Jack Armstrong]

he is responsible for our children children's health and welfare and safety and education. And the display he put on tells

[Joe Getty]

me that he should be nowhere around our children. School board meeting in Tennessee. School board member after a girl gets up to speak says, God, you're hot. Do you know that? Where do you go to school at What? Good gracious.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

It's not a good look. Tennessee.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy. I'd say not.

[Joe Getty]

That's inappropriate. We'll get back to Iran and the war and the effects around the globe. Coming up in a little bit.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tucker Carlson predicts nuclear war out of this, Trump said he no longer talks to Tucker Carlson. Stay tuned.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, there's so many things I'd like to get to today that have nothing to do with the war, including great analysis from one of our favorite students of the human mind about the whole conspiracy freak thing. Oh, I love that. The psychology of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Speaking of conspiracy freaks, we have breaking yay news. Kanye west has been blocked from entering the UK where he was supposed to play at a music festival because of his past anti Semitic remarks. You know how they got the whole speech thing there in the uk?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Isn't there a special dispensation for I'm pretty seriously mentally ill and I was off My meds. If Kanye came to me and said I was out of my mind, I hate my meds, I was off them. I said all sorts of crazy crap. I don't have anything against the Jews, I would say, okay,

[Jack Armstrong]

take that out of it, though. Somebody that says that sort of stuff and means it not allowed to go into Great Britain.

[Joe Getty]

I have a lot of serious problems with Great Britain's laws having to do with offensive speech, quote, unquote. They have gone way off the deep end.

[Jack Armstrong]

What do we do? I don't even know the answer to this question. Do we allow people in who say that sort of stuff because you don't have free speech? I mean, if in. We don't have to give you free speech if you said it somewhere else. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That's kind of controversial right now because various like pro Palestinian activist, like student visa people have been booted out of the country for being anti American and inciting violence.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, Marco Rubio, big on that. Like, we don't have to keep you here. You say that sort of stupid buff.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. It's an interesting topic for sure. A lot of subtleties there are.

[Jack Armstrong]

We are going to get into next hour because I really want to talk about this. The whole AI Music thing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, okay, great. Yeah. Also want to get to a woman in California being prosecuted for registering her dog to vote and having the dog vote. The system that allows that isn't being prosecuted. She is. For illustrating how corrupt the system is. And one of the most serious conservatives writing these days with a big piece saying, yes, voting fraud is real. It's seriously real. It's a significant problem. And he happens to be a conservative who can't stand Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

What was the dog's politics?

[Joe Getty]

Liberal way out on the left paw? Definitely no. I have no idea. I haven't asked it. Good boy, Good boy back.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bad dog. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Dogs live off their owners. I mean, they're nice companions, but they don't work.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm guessing liberal.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I feel like they're probably. They want a lot of big safety net dogs can't get a job.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. Thinks the their treats come from the government.

[Jack Armstrong]

Your dog is a conservative.

[Joe Getty]

My dog is a staunch conservative.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is offensive and I don't like it.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. The stereotyping. I feel bad. Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

You got to pull yourself up by your little rain booties. Make it on your own.

[Joe Getty]

Beautiful. Oh, beautiful. So we'll get into all of those.

[Jack Armstrong]

You marry some and have a bunch of kids you can't afford.

[Joe Getty]

That's your problem boy welfare with their their puppies putting out another litter. Expect the government to pay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Right? Hey, we've got more now or three if you miss a get podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand

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