I'm Prepared To Be Your Leader

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "I'm Prepared To Be Your Leader"
Date: November 17, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty (iHeartPodcasts)

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Overview

This episode dives deep into social and cultural transformations affecting young men in America, the fallout from the Matt Gaetz scandal, modern warfare's grey zones, and curious cultural phenomena like chess boxing. Armstrong and Getty bring their trademark blend of humor, skepticism, and social commentary to bear on some troubling trends and jaw-dropping headlines.

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Main Discussion Points & Key Segments

1. The Crisis of Young Men in America

[03:54 – 15:57]

Context & Concerns

• Getty shares pride and worry about his son’s involvement in Boy Scouts, highlighting the lack of institutions dedicated to young men’s development in today's culture.
• Concerns over negative narratives around masculinity and systemic impacts on young men (“The fact that being a boy is considered a disease in school...all those different things really weird me out.” – Getty, 04:31).

Shocking Statistics from Scott Galloway (NYU Professor & Podcaster)

• One in three men under 25 live at home; one in five stays at home by age 30.
  (Galloway: “It’s about 30% of men under the age of 25. One in three are still at home. One in five are still at home by the age of 30.” [05:26])
• Big Tech’s role in addicting youth to screens: “What we’ve unwittingly built is an economy which is dependent upon our ability to evolve a new species of asocial, asexual males.” (Galloway, 05:42)
• Young men’s brains are more susceptible to the dopamine hits designed by tech, diverting energy from real relationships to online engagement.

The Decline of Dating and Romantic Ambition

• 45% of men aged 18-24 have never asked a woman out in person; 63% of men under 30 are not even pursuing a relationship.
  • “Completely unheard of. When I was a young man, just absolutely impossible…” (Getty, 09:24)
• The hosts lament the replacement of real-life adventure with online surrogates: “The greatest minds of our time are trying to addict us to screens for their own nefarious purposes.” (Armstrong, 06:21)
• “[Tech companies] are trying to convince young men they can have a reasonable facsimile of life online...” (Galloway, 08:18)

Memorable Moments & Quotes

• “If this was a different species, the scientific world would be on fire talking about it!" (Armstrong, 10:08)
• Lots of wry humor about how basic needs, like relationships, used to serve as motivation for young men:
  • “Maybe the only thing that was getting us out of the house was needing a little…” (Getty, 10:48)

Attempts at Solutions

• Armstrong predicts an “anti tech religion/slash ethos” will develop as a backlash:
  • “I am prepared to be your leader. I will not be sexing up your younger women, at least at first. That is my pledge to you.” (Armstrong, 13:18)

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2. Brief World and National News Rundown

[20:20 – 25:19]

• The hosts quickly hit on several important world news stories:

  • U.S. military posturing in the Caribbean towards Venezuela.
  • Israel/Palestine/U.N. diplomatic drama.
  • Ukraine/Russia war’s grind, Russian drone incursions in Germany (over a thousand this year).
    • “We are not at war with Russia, but we are no longer at peace either.” – Frederick Mertz (quoted by Armstrong, 22:15)

• Armstrong comments on the ambiguous space between peace and war created by cyberattacks and drones.

  • “At what point do we view a cyber attack as an attack? You attacked us.” (Armstrong, 23:10)

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3. The Matt Gaetz Scandal — Realities and Gray Areas

[31:12 – 43:54]

Case Details and Context

• The episode takes a deep dive into the recently resurfaced Matt Gaetz controversy, focusing especially on the underreported perspective of the young woman at the center of the scandal.
  • “She was 17 and a high school junior in Florida...She falsely advertised herself as 18 years old.” (Armstrong, 31:33)
  • Her vulnerable background (homelessness, working at McDonald's, parental instability) is emphasized.

The 'Sugar Daddy' Economy and Exploitation

• The girl joins a sugar-dating website, where older men seek companionship with young women “looking to make money.”

  • “The world’s oldest profession has gotten a ghostwriter that has come up with some complicated paragraphs to explain it.” (Getty, 36:43)

• The hosts explore the gray area between victimization and agency, questioning the notion of power imbalances and consent.

Gaetz’s Alleged Involvement

• The young woman’s interactions with Joel Greenberg (local official, later convicted for sex trafficking), and ultimately with Gaetz at a notorious party.
• Party described: “Alcohol, cocaine, middle aged men and young attractive females.” (Armstrong quoting docs, 40:08)
• Allegations that Gates, then 35, had sex with her twice that night; payment of $400; drug use present.
  • “Which is it? [pool table or air hockey table] They’re very different tables.” (Getty, 41:55)

Reflection and Public Ethics

• Getty and Armstrong express disgust but also expand on the conceptual difference between legality and morality:

  • “It’s not really that important whether she’s gonna be 18 in six months or she’s 17 now. She’s way too young for you to be partying with by far." (Getty, 43:12)

• News update: Greenberg pleaded guilty and got 10 years. Gates was not charged.

• Armstrong notes the absurdity and fascination with the convoluted “gray areas” of modern morality and legality.

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4. Lighter Segment: Chess Boxing on 60 Minutes

[47:34 – 49:55]

• The pair riff on the oddities of “chess boxing,” as featured on 60 Minutes—a real sport combining chess and boxing rounds.
  • Armstrong: “What’s next, flute javelin or something? You hurl the javelin, then play a flute concerto or what?” (49:29)
• The sport is characterized as a novelty, but the hosts enjoy poking fun at its premise—a wry break from heavier news.

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Notable Quotes and Moments

• “We’ve unwittingly built an economy dependent upon our ability to evolve a new species of asocial, asexual males.”
  – Scott Galloway (05:42)

• “Completely unheard of. When I was a young man, just absolutely impossible that…one person I would have ever run into…wasn’t pursuing a relationship.”
  – Getty (09:24)

• “If this was a different species than Homo sapiens, the scientific world would be on fire talking about it.”
  – Armstrong (10:08)

• “I am prepared to be your leader. I will not be sexing up your younger women, at least at first. That is my pledge to you. Because every one of these insular cult-like organizations ends up with the leaders sexing up the young women.”
  – Armstrong (13:18)

• “At what point do we view a cyber attack as an attack? You attacked us.”
  – Armstrong (23:10)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Crisis of Young Men / Galloway Statistics – [03:54 – 15:57]
• Global Tensions (Russia/Ukraine, Cyberattacks) – [20:20 – 25:19]
• Matt Gaetz Deep Dive – [31:12 – 43:54]
• Chess Boxing Feature – [47:34 – 49:55]

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Tone & Approach

Armstrong and Getty’s tone blends wry sarcasm and cultural skepticism, with bursts of sincerity and concern, especially on issues surrounding young men and the changing American moral landscape. They aren’t afraid to be both blunt and playful, often skewering political and cultural absurdities with a mix of dark humor (“She must have been really progressive minded, open minded. Or was off chatting with the girls…” – Armstrong on Gaetz’s girlfriend, 43:37) and genuine reflection on societal risks.

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Conclusion

This episode is a punchy, sometimes uncomfortable, always thought-provoking trip through the crises, oddities, and scandals of early 21st-century America, as filtered through the eyes of Armstrong & Getty. Mixing interview recap, news roundup, and sharp-edged humor, it's engaging for those who want quick immersion into these topics—with or without prior knowledge.

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[Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

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[Armstrong]

Coming up, the young lady at the center of the Matt Gates allegations. What actually happened in that story? Nobody ends up looking great.

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[Armstrong]

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[Getty]

So my son was on a Boy Scout hiking trip over the weekend, as I've talked about a lot since he joined Boy Scouts last March. I am so impressed with that organization. In particular, I'm pin particularly, I'm excited about having an organization out there that's helping young men the way it. The way it clearly is. Because, man, the whole young men landscape thing, for all kinds of different reasons that we've been talking about for years is a little scary. The fact that being a boy is considered a disease in school and the. The concept of toxic masculinity when you're just being a dude and just all those different things really weird me out.

[Armstrong]

Well, especially if you've had the misfortune to be born white, then you're seen as the center of all evil, as taught in your local elementary school and on. On up through the chain of miseducation.

[Getty]

So Friday night on his HBO show, Bill Maher had this podcaster, NYEU professor Matt Galloway on, and they started talking about men in America and some of the stats around it that are horrifying.

[Armstrong]

The number of men, I didn't realize that's the percentage who live at home.

[Getty]

Still live with their parents.

[Armstrong]

What are those numbers?

[Guest Michael]

It's about 30% of men under the age of 25. One in three are still at home. One in five are still at home by the age of 30.

[Getty]

One in five at home at age 30. Yipes. He goes on.

[Armstrong]

Is that economic or emotional or both?

[Guest Michael]

I mean, effectively, what you have is they're up against this indomitable enemy. 40% of the S&P is now 10 companies whose primary mission is to get you as glued to a screen for as long as possible. Any minute they can keep you on a screen longer is billions of dollars. And a young man's brain, which prefrontal cortex is less mature, is more susceptible to that need for dopa. So what we've literally done, Bill, is unwittingly built an economy which is dependent upon our ability to evolve a new species of asocial, asexual males. And what you have is big tech who is not our friend, is trying to sequester people, especially young people, especially young men, from the most important thing in their life, and that is relationships.

[Armstrong]

I've been trying to say that for years, but not as eloquently as he just did. The greatest minds of our time are trying to addict us to screens for their own nefarious purposes.

[Getty]

Well, I'd never heard that before, though. I didn't know, because we all know about the dopamine hits that we get from Ding. A new text, a new headline, a new whatever. I didn't know that young men were more susceptible to the dopamine hit than the rest of us.

[Armstrong]

Whoa. Well, yeah, it's thrill seeking. That's. That's what thrill seeking is. And whether it's online thrills, you know, I've. I'm not sure I've ever been so disgusted by an advertisement as I was. And I wish I had the quote in front of me, but it was one of your shooting people in war video games. And, and it was dead serious. Be a hero, A real hero. Call of Warfare 3 or whatever. I was like, that's the opposite of what you freaking are. You're living at your parents home, just play acting, being a hero.

[Getty]

Oh, you wouldn't think there'd be anything at the beginning of this pre Internet if you just started out. We're gonna develop a product that'll make young men care about this product more than they care about getting laid.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, good luck.

[Getty]

I just said that's impossible. There's nothing that matters more to young men than. And it turns out you came up with something.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, unless your project is oxygen, it's gonna fail.

[Getty]

But they came up with this whole dopamine clicks thingy, that is. Anyway, he goes on, make sure you.

[Armstrong]

Guys do not miss this stat.

[Getty]

So here we go.

[Armstrong]

Okay.

[Guest Michael]

45 of men, 18 to 24. I've never asked a woman out in person. 63% of men under the age of 30 are not even pursuing A relationship.

[Getty]

And if you think about it, stop it, because I want you to start that again so I can pay closer attention. Holy crap. Okay, Here we go.

[Guest Michael]

45% of men 18 to 24 have never asked a woman out in person. 63% of men under the age of 30 are not even pursuing a relationship. And if you think about the most rewarding things in their life, I mean, the things that really matter, they are essentially relationships. What do they all have in common? They're really damn hard. And unfortunately, Big Tech, the most deep pocketed, godlike technology in the world, is trying to convince young men that they can have a reasonable facsimile of life online. Why go through the pecking order of trying to establish friendships when you got Reddit and discord? Why put on a tie and navigate the corporate world when you can trade crypto or stocks on Robinhood or Coinbase? And why would you go through the effort, the expense, and the potential rejection and humiliation of. Of establishing a romantic relationship when you have porn? I believe slowly but surely we're going to start to see fewer and fewer young men out in the wild because they're going to decide to sequester. And if I could say anything to young men, it's that the anxiety and depression you will eventually feel in your basement sequestered from other mammals, is far greater than the fear of anything that lays outside of that room for you.

[Getty]

I'm not sure that argument's going to work, but that stat. I'm glad he brought up the P word porn. I was wondering, is anybody gonna bring that up? He did. Two thirds of men under 30 are not pursuing a relationship. Completely unheard of. When I was a young man, just absolutely impossible that there would have been one person I would have ever run into a guy my age who wasn't pursuing a relationship.

[Armstrong]

And just under half of 18 to 24 year olds had never asked a woman to go do anything. That's stunning.

[Guest Michael]

Hi.

[Armstrong]

What's. What's this? Galloway's first name, Mike.

[Getty]

Scott.

[Armstrong]

That is Scott Galloway. Okay. Yeah, I'm gonna follow him.

[Getty]

And.

[Armstrong]

And I like the cut of his jib. He's talking, he's spitting truth, as they say. Wow. This is. How many times have we said this? If this was a different species than Homo sapiens, the scientific world would be on fire talking about it.

[Getty]

Right. It'd be half of. Half of all alligators no longer want to be in swamps.

[Armstrong]

What? Right, yeah. They're walking wrong along on hind legs and trying to mate with beavers. I Mean, this is an astonishing change in the natural, most deeply embedded behaviors in a species. Happens to be humans.

[Getty]

Maybe, maybe the flip side to looking at it is the only thing that was getting us out of the house was needing a little. And we wanted it so much, we freaking threw on a tie, we left.

[Armstrong]

Our home, we went out there, got an edumacation.

[Getty]

If we did all these different things just because we needed it so bad. And once you eliminate that need, oh yeah, I'm just gonna stay in my parents basement in sweats for the rest of my life.

[Armstrong]

That's sad though. It's.

[Getty]

Of course it's sad. And he's, I, obviously he's right. At the end of the road you'll be much sadder than you would be with the pursuit and failure and all the ups and downs of life. But I don't think that your argument's going to work on young people. Just your, your time horizon when you're young just doesn't work.

[Armstrong]

Well, back to the impulsiveness of young people, particularly young men. Although let's not let the crazy angry militancy of young women go without being remarked on in this discussion as well.

[Getty]

That's. But I've got a couple of teens.

[Armstrong]

That'S always different syndrome, but, but still a significant one.

[Getty]

But like my high schooler, we spent a lot of time together over the weekend because his brother was on a camping trip and he's gonna be 16 here in a couple of months. And he has the same attitude every 16 year old has or I had. He talks about when I talk about you when you're 30th. When I'm 30, I don't even, I don't even care if I'm alive when I'm 30. Who cares about being 30? I mean, 30 is so far off when you're 16, you can't even imagine it. You know, we'll be flying around in cars and all kinds of stuff by the time you're 30, so, so pitching to young people the idea, I mean, I do this, I've done this with my own kids and it seems to be working so far. But pitching the, you know, by the time you're 40, ultimately you'll be sad if you do this. I hope that works.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. You know, it's funny, I was reminiscing with a couple of buddies that it had been 11 years since we'd played our last show as a rock and roll band. And I thought, Good Lord, 11 years. Then I thought, that's all of high school. All of college and the first three years of your career, which is enormously impactful and is forever in youthful years. You know, to your point, when I'm 30, telling a 16 year old that. Please.

[Getty]

Right.

[Armstrong]

No, no. Yeah, yeah.

[Getty]

If you, if you continue down this path when you're 30, you're going to be unhappy with your choices. I've done work on a lot of people.

[Armstrong]

There will soon be a religion, a philosophy and it will be popular. It will be very, very popular. It might be a smallish minority of humans, but it will be an anti tech religion slash ethos that people will latch onto. I, I think it is building. How widespread it is, I don't know. I am prepared to be your leader. I will not be sexing up your younger women, at least at first. That is my pledge to you. Because every one of these like insular cult like organizations ends up with the leaders sexing up the young women.

[Getty]

So I just figured, you know, I've.

[Armstrong]

Got, speaking of which, the Matt Gates thing coming up later.

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[Getty]

Half of young adult men have never asked a girl out and 2/3 of men under 30 are not looking for a relationship at all. Imagine being a young woman. Good lord, you're a 26 year old getting your act together. Thinking of having a family someday. Woman and two thirds of dudes out there are not even thinking about looking for a relationship. Holy crap. No wonder you're holding hands with a girl. You got no choice.

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And this. Wow. And this came out of nowhere.

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[Armstrong]

This came on so quickly societally. But there's so much money being made it's propping up the stock market, for instance. Tech in general. This sort of thing is not being said nearly as much as it should be.

[Getty]

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[Armstrong]

You did not lie.

[Getty]

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New Escalations in the Caribbean with the Navy's largest aircraft carrier, the USS Gerald R. Ford, now arriving in the Caribbean Sea off the coast of Venezuela, part.

[Getty]

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[Armstrong]

The Trump administration says it launched another military strike on a boat allegedly carrying drugs in the region. All of which has kind of pushed this into the background. 22 Michael. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowing to oppose any attempt to establish a Palestinian state. The UN Security Council is expected to vote on an American plan authorizing an international military force in Gaza. Some say the proposal opens the door for Palestinian independence. Netanyahu has long maintained that a Palestinian state rewards Hamas, Russia, China and some Arab countries oppose the US Plan.

[Getty]

Oh yeah, I've forgotten all about that story.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, and there's plenty we could say on that. But all of that in turn has obscured the Great war between Ukraine and Russia, the Russian invasion, that sort of thing. Remember, Europe more threatened than it's been since World War II, et cetera, et cetera. Anyway, a number of stories going on on that front we thought we'd at least touch on. Found this interesting. Europe is in a gray zone between war and peace. European leaders suspect Russia is behind an intensifying barrage of drone incursions, sabotage, cyber attacks and disinformation campaigns. Germany, for instance, has experienced a low 4 digit number of drone incursions this year. Did you hear me, friends? The low four digits. Over a thousand, averaging at least three daily over military, defense and critical infrastructure.

[Guest Michael]

Wow.

[Armstrong]

I suspect it's Russians.

[Getty]

Wow.

[Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Getty]

You're getting thousands of Russian drones coming into Germany at least. Yeah, a thousand.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. Drones are part of intensifying barrage European leaders suspect Russia is directing at the continent over its support for Ukraine. Said one leader. Oh, there it is. Frederick Mertz of Germany. We are not at war with Russia, but we are no longer at peace either.

[Getty]

Geez, that's a big deal.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, I know. Nobody's talking about it. Let's see, here's a former senior official at the Central Intelligence Agency. Quote, our adversaries have calculated that they can hide behind ambiguity and deniability to violate sovereignty, ignore national laws and international norms, and engage in activities such as political coercion, sabotage, and even assassinations while without triggering an armed response. You've been talking about this for years. At what point do we view a cyber attack as an attack? You attacked us. It's going to cost us $5 million to rebuild. What do you care if it's bricks or computer systems?

[Guest Michael]

Right.

[Getty]

And you, if you set off a bomb that did a tenth the damage, that would be seen as an act of war.

[Armstrong]

Right.

[Getty]

But a cyber attack, you just, well, what are you going to do?

[Armstrong]

Here's another headline From a few days ago. What the looming fall of a Ukrainian city says about Putin's war. The long and short of it is it is grinding on it. Putin has zero interest in any peace officer offer. Rather, he's inscripting more and more people, more and more younger people and convicts and everything. Has no desire to stop the killing. He feels like he's winning. Speaking of which, how's this headline for you? Putin is turning 8th grade classrooms into arming army training grounds. A vast militarization of Russia's education system is gathering pace in classrooms where active soldiers train students to handle weapons, including eighth graders.

[Getty]

Well, that leads me to believe he's willing to feed many, many more years worth of young men into the meat grinder.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure Russian mothers have noticed. How about this? A class of Russian first graders stood to attention this fall as a soldier who had served on the front line in Ukraine inspected military uniforms. Check your dress, ordered the serviceman. Your buckles should face left, not right. Look straight ahead. The pupils, age 6 to 8, adjusted collar swivel belts and repositioned the name badges on their chests. Then they settled beyond their desks for an hour of Russian language study.

[Getty]

Not Hitler Youth, but Putin Youth, right?

[Armstrong]

Exactly. Meanwhile, we're teaching our kids to hate their country and to color in the gender bred person. Another divide. Another divide in Europe is over. The Nord Stream investigation. It looks like Ukrainian agents did it with some help of some other people. And the Germans, who are just jackasses and want the Russian gas, are investigating it thoroughly and like bringing wanted arrest people and others like the polls are saying. What the hell are you doing, Germany? Why are you doing this on Russia's behalf? Stop it. It's been a real divide.

[Getty]

Yeah, seems like we should be paying attention to these stories, but you got the Epstein files, so that's going to keep us busy for a while.

[Armstrong]

Ugh.

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Machine new details as the NBA expands its investigation into the gambling schemes still rocking. Professional basketball investigators hired by the league now asking multiple teams for access to cell phones and phone records.

[Getty]

The law firm hired by the NBA.

[Armstrong]

Is expected to seek documents from at least 10 Lakers employees.

[Getty]

So the NBA going around saying, you got to give me your phone. We got a guy here, he's going to go through it.

[Armstrong]

Wow. Is that in their contracts or something? Or voluntary? Wow.

[Getty]

I don't know. But there, there's a possibility that in baseball and basketball this is gonna really blow up into a big thing.

[Armstrong]

Oh yeah, yeah. I was saying to friends over the weekend, my sense of it is we're gonna start hearing about this sort of thing on a weekly basis. It's gonna be like rainstorms hit Kentucky over. I mean it's just going to be a routine part of our lives. How about if you're the latest, you know, area of sports to come under scrutiny?

[Getty]

How about if you're a pitcher and you accidentally, you know, you legitimately just throw one pretty much straight into the dirt. Everybody's going to be like, all right.

[Armstrong]

Check the batting patterns, check the betting pattern.

[Getty]

What the hell was that? Or you miss, you know, you airball a free throw.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. So speaking of news stories that we've touched on next hour, I would like to do this and I'm looking forward to it. If you don't get next hour, by the way, or you got to go somewhere, just subscribe or follow our podcast. Armstrong and gettyondemand, wherever you like to get podcasts, but mentioned it last week. The Sierra Club, the time honored environmental group has now torn itself apart because it invited woke young people into its ranks of leadership. And they have decided that the Sierra Club is not in. Should not be advocating for the environment. It should be advocating for the permanent omnic cause. There is no environmental justice without Palestinian justice. What? Meanwhile the guys who in charge of spotted owls, like wait, what? Anyway, that story is unintentionally hilarious.

[Getty]

That was your impersonation of the, the guy in charge of spotted owls, whatever that means working the spotted owl desk.

[Armstrong]

Who do we have on spotted owls? McGee. Oh, good, he's good. He's sharp. Anyway, so that next hour, do you remember the Matt gaetz scandal? Alleged 17 year old lover transporting girls across state lines for immoral purposes, blah, blah, blah.

[Getty]

He doesn't, he doesn't look like the kind of guy that would do that. Oh, wait, he looks exactly like the kind of guy who would do that.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, he really, really does. Well, this gal who is now, let's see, it's eight years down the line, so she's now 25 years old, is talking about how it all happened to give a better idea of how this sort of thing happens as a cautionary tale to other young women or something. But here are the key aspects of it. And look, you know, there's some gray area here which we'll get into. Katie would love to hear your point of view. Well, I'll just read you this. She was 17 and a high school junior in Florida. She's working at McDonald's and she was living in and out of a homeless shelter. One of her parents was homeless. When she and her sibling or two would spend time with that parent, it would be at the homeless shelter. She needed braces to fix her teeth. So she falsely advertised herself as 18 years old. She lied about her age, signed the papers for a website that matches men looking for companionship with young women looking to make money. There used to be a name for that. I guess we've abandoned it. Anyway, that all started the chain of events that ended with Matt Gaetz having to leave the House of Representatives and being investigated but never charged.

[Getty]

Hey, Matt Gates, way to have sex allegedly with a homeless high school junior.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, well, he. Well, we'll get to his statements on that. But remember, Gates was Trump's first choice to serve it as Attorney General.

[Getty]

Oh, right. Good lord, I'd forgotten that.

[Armstrong]

Anyway, public furor, blah, blah, blah. So there's been little attention given to the story of the girl, how she came to be exploited and how she's coped with what happened to her in the ensuing political scandal. She get her teeth fixed that. They've not made that clear here.

[Getty]

Don't have a picture of her smiling.

[Armstrong]

So, yeah, exploit it, definitely. Because a child or a minor cannot consent to sexual relationship. But a 17 year old girl who says, hey, wait a minute, one of these sugar daddy sites, that's the answer. Is not an innocent babe in the woods.

[Getty]

No.

[Armstrong]

It's unfortunate that this sort of thing happens. I'm not blaming her or anything. There's just, there's a fair amount of gray area going on.

[Getty]

No, she probably has had a lifestyle that forced her to understand. Understand the adult world a lot faster than you should.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. So says her attorney. She said that her client believed the public should have a fuller understanding of how. How she had been victimized quote. The vulnerable circumstances most crime victims face are rarely the public. Although my client circumstances revealed outside of her control. I hope it helps with the public to see a fuller and more human picture of her than the press has reported on to date. I don't know if she has a book coming out or what, but power imbalances can be age, but they can also be financial. My client had little economic security which allowed for financial leverage over her. That is a loaded couple of sentences. Yeah, that means she needed money, so she did stuff for money.

[Getty]

Or you dated a guy cuz he's rich. I mean, where does he cross the line? Come on now.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, power imbalances. Yeah. I had little economic security and really needed money too, so I work crappy jobs.

[Getty]

Should have sexed up an old lady.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. It's funny that a 17 year old can consent to working a crappy job but not sex. I'm not saying that's wrong. I'm just saying it's an interesting. I mean, you worked some crappy, fairly dangerous jobs. Very crappy teenager and young adult. Yeah.

[Getty]

Anyway.

[Armstrong]

Oh, let's see. Sex experts, trafficking experts. There's a spectrum of ways girls and women are exploited as we've been discussing. So in response to questions, Mr. Gates said in a text message on Thursday, I never had sex with this person. This person threatened me with a lawsuit if I didn't pay her $2.3 million. She never sued me because her story is fiction.

[Getty]

2.3 million, that's swinging for the fences.

[Armstrong]

So that's what Gates has to say. According to her lawyer. Junior year of high school, she turned 17. Parents were divorced, one in a shelter. To make extra money, she worked at McDonald's, but began looking for other ways to make money and turned to a website that advertised itself as a sugar dating website that primarily connected older men and young women seeking, quote, mutually beneficial relationships. According to the House ethics committee. Again, we used to have words for these, these things. Not, not nearly as. There weren't as many words anyway.

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The world's oldest profession has gotten a ghostwriter that has come up with some complicated paragraphs to explain it.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Again, fully cognizant. This girl is 17 through the website. In April of her junior year in high school, she met Joel Green, a local Florida tax collector who is becoming a friend and ally of Mr. Gates. According to court documents. We remember Greenberg's name. Mr. Greenberg first invited the 17 year old to a meeting on his boat, according to court documents. I don't know what they knew. But. And this is not a defense. This is not a defense in a court of law. I happen to know this not through personal experience. I asked a friend, just because she claimed, verified, swore, signed that she was 18, that's not a defense for hooking up with 17 year old. But Greenberg at that point believed her to be 18.

[Getty]

That's interesting.

[Armstrong]

So what, it's, it's your responsibility to figure that out?

[Getty]

I mean, this is all tawdry all the way around. But you're supposed to what, go with her to the courthouse and see her birth certificate? Or.

[Armstrong]

The legal theory is, and, and I'm not up to it, like super recently, but is you got to do whatever it takes. You can't sex up a minor, even if said minor claims to be a major.

[Getty]

Okay, so let's take it out of the realm of legality since that seems to be the law, and into the like, public opinion world. I mean, this is all incredibly tawdry. You shouldn't be having sex with somebody that young. I mean, even if you think they're 18, that young, because she needs money and you got money, I mean, that's just gross all the way around. But if, if you know, the company says she's 18 and she says she's 18, how angry are we at Matt Gaetz about the age part of it?

[Armstrong]

Right? Yeah, that's, that's a problem. So anyway, here's how it unfolds.

[Getty]

All just ugly, though.

[Armstrong]

Oh, it's tawdry. Yeah. Greenberg first invited the 17 year old to a meeting on his boat. At that meeting, they did not have sex, but Greenber Greenberg paid her $400 for being around around that time, Mr. Greenberg. And it's funny, this is, I'm quoting the New York Times now, and there's a lot of this sort of verbiage. Around that time, Mr. Greenberg gave her ecstasy and told her to try it at home again. She's 17. He gave her ecstasy, she went ahead and took it anyway. Shortly thereafter, Mr. Greenberg contacted the girl again. They ultimately met up at a hotel where they had sex, according to court documents. For that, paid another $400, according to the court. In the months that followed, Mr. Greenberg, using his personal credit card and one for the local tax collecting office he was in charge of. Scumbags are going to scumbag. I mean he, he's hooking up with this young woman who he believes to be 18, and it's not good enough. He starts using his work credit card anyway for $400, had sex with her seven times for money before she turned 18, according to the documents. Often during those encounters, he ecstasy and he would often pay the girl and other women additional money for taking the drug during sex.

[Getty]

And where's Gates come into this?

[Armstrong]

On July 15, 2017, Greenberg asked the girl and others to attend a party at the home of Chris Dorworth, former Republican member of the Florida House of Reps, who at the time worked as a lobbyist run by a major Trump fundraiser. Court documents describe the party as involving alcohol, cocaine, middle aged men and young attractive females. Mr. Gates, then 35 years old, attended the party with a girlfriend.

[Getty]

This is also gross, though. I mean, because once you're older and most people listening to this show, you're, you know, least 30s and 40s, if not older. Once you get into your 40s and 50s, an 18 year old looks like a freaking kid, like a child. What are you doing? You go to a party and shows up. People show up with girls, I would think, what did get a junior high bus to come by? What the hell is, you know, you.

[Armstrong]

Know, I, I agree with you, but I've got to disagree because the other thing, you hear a lot from guys who are 40 plus or I don't know if she's 18 or 26. I can't tell anymore.

[Getty]

Well, generally that's accompanied with I stay away from that whole group because I can't tell that. I mean, in my mind.

[Armstrong]

Well, that's why you're not invited to these swinging Florida parties.

[Getty]

No, I'm not sticking the mud. I am not invited to these parties because a 26 year old old and a 17 year old are the same thing. To me, they're children. What am I doing around these children?

[Armstrong]

So here's Gates at the party with his girlfriend. At the party, the girl, who was 17, later testified both cocaine and ecstasy were offered to her. She took the ecstasy and drank. According to court papers, she testifies that she danced naked in front of Mr. Dorworth and swam naked in his pool. The ethics committee heard testimony that the girl twice had sex with Mr. Gates that evening. And court documents quote her as having testified that she had sex with him once on a pool table or air hockey table, Only air hockey table to keep you cool.

[Getty]

Which is it? They're very different tables.

[Armstrong]

One felt one, you know, air hockey. Ish. She testified that Mr. Dorworth saw Mr. Gates have sex with her on the game table, then laughed about it with other partygoers. Dorworth, meanwhile, has claimed he was not home at the time. An Assertion undercut by phone records that became part of the litigation. In this case, an air hockey table.

[Getty]

Would be incredibly uncomfortable.

[Armstrong]

The girl later told congressional investors investigators she saw Mr. Gates use cocaine twice that night. For having sex with him twice. The girl was paid $400, according testimony to the ethics committee.

[Getty]

Only thing worse would be a foosball table. That'd be almost impossible.

[Armstrong]

That would be intensely painful. That fall, the girl moved to live with family members in Texas. She did not complete her senior year in high school. She continued to work for minimum wage in the food services industry. Ultimately, between the money she made from her interactions with men and in the food service industry. Jack to your question, she was able to save up enough to get braces.

[Getty]

Thank God her teeth are straight now.

[Armstrong]

A happy ending? Sort of.

[Getty]

Maybe she can become the manager at McDonald's at this point.

[Armstrong]

Mr. Greenberg has pleaded guilty to self sex trafficking a minor for having sex with a girl in exchange for money. He was sentenced to a decade in prison. Department declined to charge Mr. Gates.

[Getty]

To me, we should. We should have better public officials. You know, that it. It's not really that important whether she's gonna be 18 in six months or she's 17 now. She's way too young for you to be partying with by far. Even if she's 21, you're 45 or whatever you are. Get the hell out of there, you weirdo.

[Armstrong]

And he was there with his girlfriend too. Gates was. She must have been really progressive minded, open minded.

[Getty]

Yeah.

[Armstrong]

Or was off chatting with the girls or something. I don't know. But yeah. Yeah.

[Getty]

Wow. Nice lifestyle.

[Guest Michael]

Almost.

[Getty]

Attorney General Gates.

[Armstrong]

Oh, come here.

[Getty]

Okay, more on the way. Stay here.

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Couple of really important, impactful, well done stories on 60 Minutes last night. Then their third story, which was about chess, boxing. When you first heard about it, did you know that it was a real sport?

[Armstrong]

No, No. I thought it was like a Saturday Night Live skip. It was so absurd to me that someone would combine these two things.

[Getty]

I have to admit, when I first heard about it, I laughed. It sounds crazy.

[Armstrong]

It's the best thing about the sport. Chess is battle on a board and boxing is chess with my body. So when someone combined those two, I was like, yes, here's my yin and yang. Here's. Here's what I was made for.

[Getty]

What are you the only person in the world that's ever wanted to do this or thought it was a good idea? You put together a team. Here's how it went. Matt Thomas is a chess boxing evangelist.

[Armstrong]

When we get to the later rounds.

[Getty]

And Coach of Team USA. He's built a squad of 15American contenders from all walks of life. There's the lawyer, a Cornell math major, a military veteran. In 2018, Thomas became the first. First American to compete for a world chess boxing title. And you won.

[Armstrong]

And I won. Which. The person who was the most surprised about that was me.

[Getty]

So did you win by hook or by rook?

[Armstrong]

Good question. It was actually by rook.

[Getty]

Yeah. So you're putting together a team. You think, here's a guy whose left hook could stop a Mack truck, but he can't castle for crap. But then you got another guy who's got an 800 score on Chess.com but a glass jaw. They all have their strengths and weaknesses.

[Armstrong]

You gotta train them up, Jack. So you, you box a few rounds, then you immediately strip off your gear and sit down and play speed chess.

[Getty]

Of course you do. It's chessbox.

[Armstrong]

Yes, as they mentioned.

[Getty]

Yes, you're the world champion. Was there anybody else doing it up until five minutes ago?

[Armstrong]

I appreciate the striking contrast between slugging each other in the head and then playing a cerebral game. But what's next? Flute, javelin or something? You hurl the javelin, then play a flute concerto or what?

[Getty]

Well, right. I might be the world champion at tree climbing Jenga, but I don't, you know, who am I going to compete against?

[Armstrong]

Somebody. You gotta invent a league, I guess.

[Getty]

All right, nice job. 60 Minutes for a little cookie at the end of the meal. After two important stories, one of which we'll talk a little more about in hour four. That's the whole AI chat bots going off on their own doing crazy stuff.

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