I'm Starting To Get A Little Twitchy

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: "I'm Starting To Get A Little Twitchy" Release Date: January 13, 2025

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Introduction In the latest episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into pressing issues surrounding misinformation, governmental censorship, and the catastrophic wildfires ravaging Southern California. The episode seamlessly weaves through intense discussions, expert insights, and occasional light-hearted moments, providing listeners with a comprehensive overview of current events and their broader implications.

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1. Misinformation and Censorship in the Digital Age

Timestamp: [02:56] - [14:28]

Jack and Joe kick off the episode by addressing the burgeoning crisis of misinformation and the role of major tech platforms in curbing or inadvertently spreading false narratives. The focal point is Mark Zuckerberg's recent appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast, where Zuckerberg criticized the Biden administration for exerting undue pressure to censor content related to COVID-19.

Key Discussion Points:

• Zuckerberg's Claims: Mark Zuckerberg asserts that post-2016 election and the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, there was intensified institutional pressure to censor ideological content on platforms like Facebook.

  Mark Zuckerberg: "In the last 10 years... we faced massive institutional pressure to basically start censoring content on ideological grounds." ([05:21])

• Governmental Pressure: The hosts discuss how the Biden administration allegedly demanded the removal of content questioning vaccine efficacy, leading to strained relations with tech giants.

  Jack Armstrong: "The institution in question is the executive branch of the federal government was calling him and screaming at him... Sounds like censorship to me." ([07:05])

• Media's Role: Armstrong and Getty criticize mainstream media for sidelining these significant issues, especially when overshadowed by other major events like wildfires.

  Joe Getty: "Without the fire, I think Fox would have made this a very big story over the weekend." ([10:42])

• Supreme Court Implications: The conversation veers into the potential for the Supreme Court to intervene in what they perceive as unconstitutional censorship practices.

  Joe Getty: "...Rock star lawyer Randy Barnett... thinks this should be a Supreme Court case." ([09:13])

Notable Quote:

Jack Armstrong: "This sort of censorship by proxy or through the threat of action is a violation of the First Amendment." ([12:00])

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2. The Devastating Southern California Wildfires

Timestamp: [27:23] - [33:24]

Transitioning from digital dilemmas to environmental disasters, Armstrong and Getty provide an in-depth analysis of the recent wildfires crippling Southern California. They are joined by Rick Dickert, a seasoned meteorologist, who offers expert insights into the unprecedented fire behaviors.

Key Discussion Points:

• Wildfire Origins: The Eaton Fire in Pasadena Altadena is scrutinized, with initial investigations pointing towards potential arson, although no definitive culprit has been identified.

  Joe Getty: "There's no evidence that any of these fires were started by illegals." ([04:29])

• Meteorological Factors: Dickert explains the "blowtorch" effect caused by hurricane-force winds, exacerbating the fire's spread and making them exceptionally difficult to contain.

  Rick Dickert: "This is the worst I have ever seen... wind gusts of 45-70 mph... that blowtorch effect." ([28:40])

• Community Impact: The hosts discuss the alarming speed at which the fires have engulfed communities, with embers igniting structures miles away from the primary fire zones.

  Joe Getty: "It went from a tiny little fire to pretty big fire to holy crap." ([26:29])

Notable Quote:

Rick Dickert: "When a red flag warning is issued... that means explosive fire growth potential." ([28:27])

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3. Broader Global and Technological Concerns

Timestamp: [19:20] - [35:15]

Beyond local environmental crises, the episode touches upon global conflicts and technological advancements that pose new challenges.

Key Discussion Points:

• North Korean Involvement in Ukraine: The hosts highlight the grim reality of North Korean soldiers reportedly dying in Ukraine, shedding light on the intricate dynamics of international conflicts.

  Joe Getty: "The troops are exposed, green, loyal, and dying by the thousands in frontline combat against Ukraine." ([20:26])

• Human Rights Violations in China: Armstrong and Getty condemn China's actions of removing Tibetan children from their families for political indoctrination, emphasizing the lack of global outcry.

  Jack Armstrong: "That is horrific. That is happening right now." ([21:44])

• Artificial Intelligence and Workforce Reduction: They discuss Elon Musk's controversial stance on using AI to double-check medical diagnostics and the impending reduction in workforce due to AI integration in companies.

  Joe Getty: "41% of companies say they're going to reduce their workforce... because of AI." ([22:12])

Notable Quote:

Jack Armstrong: "There's always going to be something... with 100 mile per hour gusts, you're just screwed." ([34:47])

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4. Light-Hearted Moments and Personal Anecdotes

Timestamp: [14:28] - [46:16]

Amidst the heavy discussions, Armstrong and Getty infuse the episode with moments of levity. A humorous exchange about taking off coats like a girl showcases their chemistry and ability to balance serious content with relatable banter.

Key Highlights:

• Coat Removal Banter: A playful debate erupts when Joe admits to removing his jacket in a manner his son deems "like a girl," leading to laughter and mock frustration.

  Joe Getty: "I take off your jacket like a girl. So I texted a friend..." ([43:29])

• Reflection on Personal Habits: The hosts ponder over their personal habits, adding a human touch to the conversation.

  Jack Armstrong: "I don't even know what that means." ([41:05])

Notable Quote:

Joe Getty: "I could not be more nice about this, but how does a guy take off his coat?" ([44:15])

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5. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Timestamp: [47:42] - [51:00]

As the episode winds down, Armstrong and Getty revisit the critical issues discussed, underscoring the urgency of addressing misinformation and environmental disasters. They also briefly touch upon political matters, including Pete Hegseth’s confirmation hearings and Gavin Newsom’s recent statements.

Key Discussion Points:

• Political Accountability: The hosts express disappointment with political leaders who deflect responsibility during crises.

  Joe Getty: "We're all better off. We're all better off." ([37:48])

• Call for Action: Emphasizing the need for systemic changes to prevent future disasters and uphold free speech.

  Jack Armstrong: "The Supreme Court has got to issue some sort of edict about this censorship by proxy." ([12:43])

Notable Quote:

Jack Armstrong: "We have a lot of new listeners... this stuff really, really fires me up." ([13:47])

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Final Thoughts This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand offers a poignant exploration of contemporary challenges, blending investigative discourse with personal reflections. Listeners are left contemplating the intricate balance between free speech, governmental oversight, and environmental stewardship, all while enjoying the hosts' engaging dynamic.

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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

How y'all doing?

[Jack Armstrong]

So we're about to talk a little.

[Joe Getty]

Bit about misinformation, disinformation. Mark Zuckerberg was on Joe Rogan's much listened to podcast on Friday, said some things that should be giant news stories, but partially not because of the fires. Eaten up a lot of time and space in newspapers and broadcast TV and that sort of stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

But for instance, yeah, I think it's more about the media's hesitation to admit what is plainly true about censorship and the Biden administration and Covid.

[Joe Getty]

But for instance, on misinformation, disinformation. This is a breaking story in the LA Times right now. Investigators are looking into Electric Tower as possible Eaton fire origin site. That's the big fire in the Pasadena Altadena area. Then you got the other fire, the bigger fire, the Palisades area. They think the last story I read about it, and I think it was also in the LA Times, some fireworks from New Year's Eve had been smoldering and started that whole thing. There was an illegal arrested. Well, a bunch of people detained an illegal they saw who had a fire torch in his hand, like the way you light fires. But there's nobody's nailed down that he started any fires. I'm seeing lots on social media, just blanket statements of illegals are going around starting fires in la. Well, there's no evidence that, that any of these fires were started by illegals. I'd be more than happy to jump on that story if it's nailed down, trust me, and I'd love that story, but there's no evidence that that's actually happening. But if you, if you're on social media for a big crowd, it's as if it's completely true and nailed down. That's the way information, that's the way information works in the modern era. I know that for a lot of people on Twitter, for instance, that story's done for the rest of their lives. Illegals started these fires even though that's not what happened, at least not yet. So that's, that's a difficult situation even if you're trying to do your best in social media and, you know, monitor what's true and what's not. You go further the other direction, which Zuckerberg's about to talk about with Joe Rogan on Friday, where you're putting out things you know to be true and the government's screaming at you and doesn't want you to do that. But let's, let's start at the beginning here. Here's Mark Zuckerberg, guy runs Facebook on Joe Rogan on Friday.

[Mark Zuckerberg]

But it was really in the last 10 years that people started pushing for ideological based censorship. And I think it was two main events that really triggered this. In 2016, there was the election of President Trump, also coincided with basically Brexit in the EU and sort of the fragmentation of the EU. And then in 2020, there was Covid. And I think that those were basically these two events where for the first time we just faced this massive, massive institutional pressure to basically start censoring content on ideological grounds.

[Joe Getty]

Institutional pressure to censor content? Well, where was that coming from and in what way? He talks more about it here.

[Mark Zuckerberg]

It was during the Biden administration when they were trying to roll out the vaccine program. And I'm generally like pretty pro rolling out vaccines. I think on balance the vaccines are more positive than negative. But I think that while they're trying to push that program, they also tried to censor anyone who is basically arguing against it. And they pushed us super hard to take down things that were honestly were true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Mark Zuckerberg]

I mean, they basically pushed us and said, you know, anything that says that vaccines might have side effects, you basically need to take down. And I was just like, well, we're not going to do that. Like, we're clearly not going to do that. I mean, that is kind of inevitably true.

[Joe Getty]

We don't have the audio of this, but he says Biden administration officials used to call and scream at us demanding that we remove Covid related content, even things that were facts or memes and humor. When we refused, we found ourselves under investigation by several agencies.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right. And I thought it was ironically, kind of ridiculously charming that he said we faced incredible institutional pressure. The institution in question is not like the national association of Orthodontists. It's the executive branch of the federal government was calling him and screaming at him and telling him what to print and what not to print. Sounds like censorship to me.

[Joe Getty]

Well, especially, I mean, when there is a clear penalty there. When we refused, we found ourselves under investigation by several agencies.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right, yeah, As I said at the time, when I was howling about this, whether it's investigations or regulations or lawsuits or just impediments, I mean, if the federal government decides to F with you. Pardon me, F with you, they will. They will make it impossible to do business through the tax code. Witness the conservative organizations during the Tea Party era or whatever. The P Party era is a completely different Era, I apologize. I misspoke. But, yeah, And I was so bitterly disappointed when the Supreme Court, in, I think it was Murphy Murphy versus Missouri, essentially struck down a lawsuit about this. Having gone back to refresh my memory about it. It's the sort of, you didn't have standing to sue, assuming that past censorship would equal future censorship. So they weren't asking the Supreme Court, hey, was that awful or not? It was about a particular injunction. So I would love to have the Supreme Court hand down, in whatever form or whatever pretext the word that. No, this sort of censorship by proxy or through the threat of action is a violation of the First Amendment.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Rock star lawyer Randy Barnett, who's got a great book out right now, tweeted over the weekend, the Biden administration pressure on Facebook should be big news and a huge scandal, big enough for SCOTUS to hear about it. But will it? He thinks this should be a Supreme Court case like you're just talking about. I think so, too. I mean, this is a big deal. The fact that it landed on Friday with very little coverage, again, partially because of the fire obscuring everything like that is frustrating.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and I don't know, I get what you're saying. I think the fire is a pilot light compared to the utter, you know, disgust that most of the media has with the idea of saying, you know what, all that stuff that we were 100% for suppressing, like the scientists who are advocating for the Great Barrington Declaration, for instance, who are pointing out, yeah, there are side effects, who are pointing out, no, the vaccine does not prevent transmission, who are pointing out we should open the schools, who are saying that young, healthy people had no need, anybody who had natural immunity had no need to take the jab. All of those things are now unquestionably an unquestioned fact. The media was complicit in silencing those people. So, no, they're not going to turn around and say, gee, that censorship was awful.

[Joe Getty]

Without the fire, I think Fox would have made this a very big story over the weekend. But you're right. I don't think Meet the Press, Face the Nation would have touched it at.

[Jack Armstrong]

All, because New York Times maybe they.

[Joe Getty]

Would have been completely implicated in this sort of thing. One more clip from Rogan I thought was interesting. You were just lying to us about this, that and the other thing. And now I'm supposed to believe you're one of the good guys, you're one of the straight shooters now.

[Mark Zuckerberg]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know where that goes from there.

[Jack Armstrong]

I tell you what was. All due respect to our need to not prop up people we compete with. Allegedly. That's a great question by Rogan. That's an incredibly uncomfortable question.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Well, that's been the pushback since last week when Zuckerberg first came out and all of a sudden is a Bill of Rights First Amendment guy is okay, which. Which one's the real you, or do you just.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, and fair enough. Although, you know, my goal in this discussion is not whether I should like Mark Zuckerberg. That ship has sailed.

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[Jack Armstrong]

It's about the First Amendment and government censorship.

[Joe Getty]

That's horrifying that that could happen, though, at that level on things that were really important.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Are there side effects on the vaccine the government is forcing you to get or you lose your job? Not allowed to say. What, are you kidding?

[Jack Armstrong]

Mind, that included a hell of a lot of firefighters and soldiers and sailors and Marines. So you young, healthy, primarily men who would not get the jab, many of whom already had natural immunity.

[Joe Getty]

So you're employed by the government at some level, and the government's not allowing discussion on whether or not the vaccine has side effects, but you're being forced to take it to keep your job. That's exactly the sort of thing you don't want in a free society.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would agree. And the technicalities of who can sue and who has standing and blah, blah, blah, gets. You know, I'll let the lawyers argue about that. But, yeah, I agree with you completely. The Supreme Court has got to issue some sort of edict about this censorship by proxy.

[Joe Getty]

Zuckerberg did have the option, didn't he, though, of going full profile in courage and with his. I mean, especially then, Facebook was bigger then than it is now in terms of people paying attention to it. If he'd have come out and said, the Biden administration is really pressuring us to take down things that are true, or at least possibly true. God, that would have been a great, huge story.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep. Absolutely. I wish he had.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, that could have been one of those on a Sunday morning where they do the full five where he goes on like Face the Nation, Meet the Press, all the shows and talks about how the Bed Ministry people are screaming at me on the phone and threaten me, threatening me with investigations if I take down things that are true. Oh, my God, what a story that would have been. But he chose not to do that.

[Jack Armstrong]

He either lacked the moral courage, or he made the decision as a businessman, what will be best for my company. I'm giving him he decided shutting up would be the best.

[Joe Getty]

I think he's probably a weasel, but I am giving him a little benefit of the doubt. Like in the midst of the pandemic where things were crazy there for a.

[Jack Armstrong]

While and, and in Silicon Valley there was such uniformity of progressive thought. I mean, you got people there who are still frigging masked. Pardon me. I get fired up over this stuff. We have a lot of new listeners. Generally I can contain my mild obscenities a little better than I am, but this stuff really, really fires me up.

[Joe Getty]

Is it dry January wearing on you?

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm starting to get a little twitchy. Yes, it's been disappointing and we've talked about this so many times. I don't feel nearly as good as I'd anticipated.

[Joe Getty]

Having given up the booze can open to feel better. So this is just what I feel like.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm still a sleepy half wit for like the first hour and a half.

[Joe Getty]

Of the day and it's disappointing. I have a whole bunch of interesting nuggets that I captured over the weekend that are not the news of the day, but are all interesting, so I'm hoping to get to those this hour at some point. Excellent. For instance, how big a deal is AI? Something China's doing that's horrible, North Korean soldiers are dying like crazy in Ukraine and something that Elon Musk says that if you're not doing this with your doctor recommendations, you're really making a mistake that I thought I'm going to employ in my life. A bunch of stuff on the way. Stay here.

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Sunny Austin's husband Emmanuel, an orthopedic surgeon, has been named in a New York RICO case involving federal insurance fraud. Still, I hear he's a great surgeon. He even did Joy Behar's hoof replacement. Oh, that's cold.

[Joe Getty]

What?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's. That's childish. What hoof replacement?

[Joe Getty]

Do I take off my coat like a girl? We'll discuss this later. Became a topic at dinner last night.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

A couple of things to discuss. Just notes I took over the weekend. Somebody tweeted this out and Elon Musk tweeted, retweeted it. True. If you're not double checking your doctor's diagnostics with an LLM, that's a language learning model AI Chatbot. If you're not double checking your doctor's diagnostics with an LLM, you're being negligent in your health. I've never considered doing that, but maybe we all should in the future.

[Jack Armstrong]

Take my doctor's diagnosis and ask social media what they think.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Go on Twitter.

[Jack Armstrong]

Go on Reddit.

[Joe Getty]

Does this look like something to you? And then you show them a picture of a blotchy thing on your skin. This is a joke. It was a girl. Woman. Sorry, woman. Talking to a mechanic. My car's making a terrible noise. The mechanic says, try taking the Taylor Swift CD out.

[Jack Armstrong]

I get it.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Note right.

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Diary of a dead North Korean soldier reveals grisly battlefield tactics.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. Whoa.

[Joe Getty]

I got into that a little bit. That was heavy. The troops are exposed, green, loyal, and dying by the thousands in frontline combat against Ukraine. I didn't realize North Korean soldiers were dying by the thousands.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, and. And you just. You don't even try to protect your own life. You just march into the machine gun fire. Because there's a chance your family will have a slightly better life back in North Korea if you're a quote unquote hero.

[Joe Getty]

God dang it. That is brutal. I was listening to a podcast with David Petraeus. Remember him? He was the commander in Iraq and Afghanistan and CIA director and probably should be in the government at some level because he's brilliant. But he had an affair with a woman, and that kind of ruined his career. He said his numbers were. The Russians have lost 500,000 soldiers from the battlefield that can't return dead or wounded to the point that they can't return. A half a million.

[Rick Dickert]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

That's a stunning number.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

And that is the history of Russia just feeding people into the meat grinder until the other side wears down and it looks like it's going to work again.

[Jack Armstrong]

Except their birth rates are a tiny, tiny fraction of what they were 50, 100 years ago now.

[Joe Getty]

True, dad. Speaking of bad countries, China is removing Tibetan children from their families and placing them in schools where they face political indoctrination. So they're literally taking children out of homes in Tibet, taking them to China and re educating them to believe in the Communist Chinese Party. That is horrific. That is happening right now. College students are not protesting on campuses about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

In America, government schools are teaching your children that they can change what sex they are on a whim.

[Joe Getty]

Bill Maher said rumors he's retiring are not true. I hadn't heard those rumors. He is gonna retire from stand up comedy as he's a very old man. But he said they will have to drag him off the set of Real Time. He will continue to do that. I'm glad because it's a good show and at least lately I generally agree with him. Came across this. Ian Bremmer retweeted it. The percentage of companies worldwide who plan to reduce workforce in the next couple of years because of AI. 41 of companies say they're going to reduce their workforce in the next couple of years because of AI. I'm not very bright. And I tweeted that out and somebody said, yeah, that could be a receptionist. And they would say yes. Which is true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, if I'm feeding my family as a receptionist, I'm concerned.

[Joe Getty]

True. But if it's an employee here or there, it's not as quite as devastating as the number indicated.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. All right. I guess they didn't indicate the size of the workforce production they had in mind. So we're going to touch a bit more on the utterly, unthinkably devastating wildfires in Southern California. Next, chat with legendary meteorologist from la, Rick Dickert. And then on to more of the news of the day. If you can't stick around, grab the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

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Just fire, no water, but like 80 miles an hour.

[Jack Armstrong]

Plus it felt surreal.

[Joe Getty]

Is the fire like racing down the hill at that point?

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[Jack Armstrong]

Just was shooting like a blowtorch.

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Like a blowtorch. It was literally just shooting off of the mountain, man.

[Joe Getty]

I just watched a video I hadn't seen. This doorbell camera captures early moments of the Eaton fire. That's the one up by Altadena and Pasadena. And these people. She was coming home from work and she saw a little orange glow off in the distance underneath the power lines. That's why they're now reporting. The LA Times is reporting that they think it started under the power lines, but it's got the minute by minute on here of how fast it went from tiny little fire to pretty big fire to holy crap. And they loaded up their car and got out of there. It's just crazy how fast that happened. And also I found the, the three letter warning for today. I don't know, comes up with this stuff. They declared it a PDF for day particularly dangerous situation. Okay, that's like the official. And I guess when you declare something a pds, then all kinds of things happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do we need that?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. It's what I wonder.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I would say it's a pleasure to talk to our next guest. And it is in a way, but it's a terrible, a terrible topic. Rick Dickard is a legend of L A media, Fox 11 Morning News. Among other credits for years certified broadcast meteorologist. Heard many, many, many, many times on our beloved affiliate 790K ABC. And he joins us now. Rick, how are you sir?

[Rick Dickert]

I'm well, given what's happening here. Thank you for having me, Jack. Joe and you mentioned the PDS and that is a official term used by the National Weather Service to express the heightened risk of severe weather. And here it's a wildfire or the potential of more wildfires that they issue. Those PDS is for severe weather, hurricanes, tornadoes. So this is an extreme situation and unfortunately we're looking at another powerful wind event, not quite what we saw last Tuesday, but close to it in terms of wind velocities that are anticipated over the next 48 hours.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I want to get to that in just a second. But first, can you describe to folks what the weather was like last week when the fires started, given your perspective of reporting, reporting on this sort of thing for years and years.

[Rick Dickert]

And I worked in the broadcast media here in Southern California for 30 plus years, 20 of which I spent up in an airborne capacity in a helicopter covering these events, these wind driven events. This is the worst I have ever seen. And I was on the ground for this one. And essentially what happened dynamically in the atmosphere, things came together to produce these hurricane force wind gusts in those areas that we call the urban wildland interface here in Southern California, two of which above Pacific Palisades, above that iconic shoreline. If you're on the east coast, you've seen it in pictures and movies of Malibu. And then the Eaton fire above, just to the north and northeast of the iconic Rose bowl and Colorado Boulevard where you see the Rose Parade every year, those two areas, there was some sort of trigger in the wildland just above those communities, those two sparks happen. And then dynamically, meteorologically we have this powerful wind event that allowed that fire to spread. You heard what people in those areas said, like a blowtorch. It was a firestorm, 80 mile an hour wind gusts burning that chaparral, that forest land, those dry tinder, dry brush. We had months of no precipitation. Essentially here in Southern California, that brush caught fire, the winds ignited and that fire spread directly down into those communities. The Eaton Fire, Pasadena over towards Altadena, Sierra Madre, and then the Palisades fire encompassing the Pacific palace there, even part of Santa Monica, and then up the coast towards Malibu.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I, I thought I knew what these videos would be like when I started watching them, but some of the videos they had on 60 Minutes last night and some I saw this morning on my phone, it was so windy, it was like, it was like CGI special effects. I'd never seen anything like that anywhere. No wonder it's been so difficult to fight.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it was like a machine gun of embers being shot over tremendous distances.

[Rick Dickert]

Miles that those embers, that ember cast, and the ember intrusion as we call it, that gets caught up in the eaves of homes two miles away from the fire zone because it was so dry out there, it ignited homes well away from that major fire zone. And that's exactly what happened for a good 12 to 24 hour period after these two fires started. The Palisades fire started at 10:30am Pacific Standard Time on Tuesday. The Eaton fire above the Rose bowl, north and east of the Rose bowl, and the Angeles National Fire that started shortly after 6pm on the same day. Worst case scenario, with the weather in play and where those two fires ignited, allowing those fires fanned by those dusty, powerful hurricane force wind gusts out of the north and northeast, towards the south and southwest into those communities of Pacific Palisades, of Altadena and Sierra Madre, including.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bizarre fire behaviors racing downhill, driven by the wind, which is something normally that doesn't happen. Rick Dickert, longtime meteorologist reporter in la, on the line. Rick, talk to us about what's expected this week, weather wise.

[Rick Dickert]

Yeah, again we said at that PDS issued by the National Weather Service, heightened fire weather income to Saint parts of Southern California, Ventura county, the Porter Ranch area, Simi Valley, San Fernando, the West Santa Monica Mountains. That's very close to the Palisades fire from Pepperdine University over towards Point Mugu. Wind gusts again, not as strong as what we saw last Tuesday, but close to it. We're talking about wind gusts of 45-70 mph, a sustained wind of 39 miles an hour. That's tropical storm force. A sustained wind of 74 miles an hour. That is the Category 1 hurricane. Those wind gusts in addition to the relative humidity values of 8 to 15%, that's what's going to produce the red flag conditions. When a red flag warning is issued for Southern California, for watching and listening from other parts of the country, that means explosive fire growth potential. Just like what we saw last Tuesday into Wednesday, that blowtorch effect, you get that ignition and then the fire spreads. And I do want to mention Jack and Joe, that a fire, these fires aren't started by the weather, they're driven by the weather. There's some sort of ignition. It could be something in terms of our infrastructure. Unfortunately, there's arson people that start these fires accidentally. The trigger occurs, the atmospheric conditions are in play and that's what allow these fires to spread so rapidly and create the devastation that we've seen.

[Joe Getty]

I'm really glad we had you on. What a great report. Nice job.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, terrific. Rick. We're big fans. I'm sorry it's under this circumstance that we talked to you, but fabulous job. I hope we can stay in touch.

[Rick Dickert]

Absolutely. Stay safe out there, everybody. Thank you for having me.

[Joe Getty]

So it's interesting, he brings that up about the. Obviously the weather conditions don't start the fire, they spread the fire. David Spade, the actor comedian, is offering $5,000 for anybody with information on the arsonists that start the fire. So clearly he's under the impression that some human being started this on purpose. Is, I've often wondered this with, with, with are on. You know, you start a, you go into a building and start that on fire, that's a, you know, specific thing. But the starting a fire in an area that it catches on and then burns and burns and burns and burns, you gotta, you gotta be prepared for that. Whether it's an arsonist, a lightning strike, an electric Breakdown. You gotta have some way to keep that from getting so out of control, don't you? The you know, the forest management or having enough water in your fire hydrants to fight it or whatever. Because there's always going to be something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lawnmower sparked it or I don't think there is anything you can do to be ready for that weather after that long a drought and it getting sparked. You have to work like a maniac to make sure that in those conditions nothing gets sparked and there's super quick response if it does. But with 100 mile per hour gusts, lots and lots of 75 mile per hour gusts, you're just screwed.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

To summarize, although, and we've made this point a couple of times and it's worth making again because a particular aspect of this cannot be blamed on bad governance is no reason to not talk about the awful, awful governance of California la that was a contributor. Maybe it doesn't explain it, but it should still be identified and rooted out.

[Joe Getty]

I wish I could remember where I heard some fire chief saying we could have had every fire truck in America here last Thursday night and it wouldn't have made any difference when it was gusting to 100 miles an hour. Which makes sense.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, the one gent I heard, I think it was on 60 Minutes pointed out that if they have a fully involved structure they want three fire trucks there typically and that there were as of when they interviewed him, something like 12,000 structures had burned. He said do the math, there aren't that many fire trucks.

[Joe Getty]

I was trying to find the quote that man Gavin got beat up for on Friday. It was similar to what you're talking about. See if I can find it real quick. Oh, Gavin Newsome, he was, he did an interview on a liberal outlet which also got him some pushback. Like he didn't have the guts to go on where he was going to be challenged at all. He said let's stop with the finger pointing. I'm not interested in who's to blame. Oh really? That's interesting because a lot of people are interested in who's to blame.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like a lot of people with no homes are pretty interested in that. Yeah, yeah, that's funny. Gavin, a quick word from our friends at Prize picks. It's playoff time. Oh, is it ever? Now or never. Don't miss out on the last few weeks football action with prize picks. The best place to win cash while watching the playoffs. You can now win up to a thousand times your money on prize picks.

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[Joe Getty]

So we can't play this enough today. Speaking of Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, here's, here's my. My tiny little seminar I'm going to do for politicians. If you're ever asked the question, does the buck stop with you? Always say yes. There's no win in anything other than yes. And here you go.

[Rick Dickert]

Does the buck stop with you?

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, you're governor of California. Inviting it will be the mayor of California.

[Joe Getty]

We're all in this together. We're all better off. We're all better off.

[Rick Dickert]

We're all better off.

[Jack Armstrong]

And we're working together to take care of people.

[Joe Getty]

What?

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Obviously. Well, we know where Kamala Harris's speechwriters went to work, having been laid off.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God. That was a terrible job. Apparently. Armstrong and Getty. Well, thank you, Adam. Thanks, Adam. We've got more on the way. Stay with us.

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[Joe Getty]

Do I take off my coat like a girl? Apparently I do. I found out last night. I'll explain that in a second. But first I know it's head shakingly odd.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't even know what that means. I know.

[Joe Getty]

Me neither did I. Well, I'll tell you the story in a little bit, but Pete Hegseth this is the week they start getting into the confirmation hearings. I'll just tell you this reporting John Fund writing a national review. According to one senator, they might not have the votes to get him out of committee, let alone get to the big floor vote thing. Now Mark Halperin's writing in his newsletter today is he thinks if Trump demands a floor vote it will get out of committee. But he said don't be surprised if it doesn't even get a floor vote. And there are at least a dozen possible no Republican Votes, he can only lose three. Is that correct? Republican votes. And although Fetterman seems to be a yes on all the Trump stuff, so maybe you pick up one there. But there are a dozen senators out there, Susan Collins, Lisa Markowski are hard nose. Mitch McConnell is a likely hard no. Joni Ernst of Iowa, some others that are possible no. So we'll see how this turns out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I think Pete Hegseth is a good man. I think he has some good ideas. He unquestionably has some baggage, though. Things he said and advocated and, and, and this is not a recommendation or an endorsement or non endorsement of the guy. But at some point Trump and company will say, all right, how about we get a good man with some good ideas who doesn't have all this baggage. It's just, you know, the way it works.

[Joe Getty]

So I got to find the exact wording on this. So I'm, I'm eating that red Robin last night, Katie, because, you know, I like the classy diners. Went red Robin with my son. He really likes the gluten free burger there. Get the burger. I think they got the best fries. Anyway, we're eating. That's not the point of the conversation. I'm eating, I take off my jacket and my son Henry, 13 years old, said, you take off your jacket like a girl. I thought that was hilarious because I don't even know what that means. And I thought just what a funny thing to say. And I laughed. I said, what does that mean? He said, you do. You take off your coat like a girl. So I texted a friend of mine who I've known for years and I thought it was just going to be funny. I said, I'm out to eat with Henry. He said, I take off my jacket like a girl. And they texted back, you are certainly particular and intentional. I said, question mark when removing your jacket. I said, you've observed this? They said, I have that I take off my jacket like a girl. A particular intentional way. That is the way a woman takes off her coat.

[Jack Armstrong]

In all of our years working together and what is it now, 33 or.

[Joe Getty]

More, have you ever noticed I take off my coat like a girl?

[Jack Armstrong]

Not, not in particular, no.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Take a step back so we can see over the music stand.

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[Joe Getty]

Is it? Yeah. What do guys do?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, I gotta fix this because I'm, I'll be single the rest of my life. If I'm taking off my coat like a girl in there, that's what my son said.

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It's kind of hot.

[Joe Getty]

He said the way you roll your shoulders and stick your chest out, it's like a girl.

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Feel like it needs a sexy music bed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Really?

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Disturbing.

[Joe Getty]

I wish you had a coat on. Katie, maybe you could show me how a man takes his coat off as opposed to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're gonna have a woman demonstrate how to be a gender bending madness.

[Joe Getty]

This is highly embarrassing. I could not.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm wearing an Armstrong and Getty hoodie. Go to Armstrong and getty.com.

[Joe Getty]

I could not be more nice about this, but how does a guy take off his coat? And how did I pick up the man mannerisms of a woman for taking off my jacket? The way I roll my shoulders and stick out my chest is girl like, wow.

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[Jack Armstrong]

They're.

[Joe Getty]

They're. Okay, Michelangelo, watching Michael.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, we're all watching. Everybody on, folks. Michael's jacket is on now. It's all.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Very casual, unassuming, Just gets it done. Not a bunch of preening and posing like a friend here.

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[Joe Getty]

You know, dance out of my jacket. How many said, how many dates have I lost in my life where a woman's thinking, oh, I got interested in him. You know, I kind of like his blah, blah, blah? And then I took off my coat, and they're like, nope, deal breaker. That is a deal breaker. I can't be with a guy who takes off his coat like a girl.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lady, lady, lady, your way out.

[Joe Getty]

I didn't even know there was such thing as taking your coat off like a girl. And now with people who know me, I bring it up and they say, oh, yeah, you've always done it that way.

[Jack Armstrong]

What? The incisive criticism of Henry. Well done, son.

[Joe Getty]

Huh? I gotta think about that long and hard. Where did that come from?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know, but man up, would you?

[Joe Getty]

I gotta practice. Michael, after the show, can I watch you take your coat off again? And I'm gonna try to nail down HR Manually.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Requests I've ever had.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I clearly do the way I roll my shoulders. What the hell you do?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's what we've been asking. It's the dealer.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, you learn something about yourself every day.

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We have a whole separate group check text thread about how you take your.

[Jack Armstrong]

Your jacket off there.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

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[Jack Armstrong]

So getting back to Pete Hegseth just briefly and again, I'm not here to endorse him or to say he shouldn't be sec deaf or at least get a try. But this is why good people don't get into politics. You've heard all those allegations about womanizing or at one conference 15 years ago he blah blah blah, drinking too much and the rest of it. A lot of that is coming from a former employee name of Cat Dugan, who worked for Concerned Veterans of America where Pete was the CEO I believe at the time. She worked there for eight months. She received a poor performance review several months into her job as she was the serving as CVA's North Carolina state Director. Shortly thereafter she filed for short term disability, then long term disability and ultimately resigned her her position and claimed disability. The national field director at the time, Sean Pattison, told the Washington free beacon that Ms. Dugan, quote, consistently fell short of performance expectations. She was a bad hire. She did not do a good job. She only lasted a few months, then started suing everybody and wanting disability and the rest of us. And now she is the. The. The. The secret source, the. The anonymous source of all these allegations about Hegseth, right?

[Joe Getty]

And all the people on Fox and Friends say we've worked with him every day for years and years and years and nobody's called us and asked us a single question about this.

[Jack Armstrong]

There is a long line of people who worked with him for years who say this guy is one of the most standup people I've ever known. Period.

[Joe Getty]

So I'll bet Pete Hegseth doesn't take his coat off like a girl, right? If you miss an hour, get the podcast. Subscribe Armstrong and Getty on demand.

[Jack Armstrong]

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