In Ten Minutes You'll Still Be Warm, The Bacon Will Be Cold

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: In Ten Minutes You'll Still Be Warm, The Bacon Will Be Cold

Date: January 7, 2026
Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand (iHeartPodcasts)
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This lively episode dives into current events, public health, humor, and social trends with Armstrong and Getty’s signature blend of skepticism, wit, and insight. Discussions thread through the so-called “super flu,” anticipated changes to the U.S. dietary guidelines, the perennial exodus from high-tax states like California, and the funny (and oddly philosophical) debate: Sex first or bacon first in the morning? The show also touches on the latest geopolitical developments in Venezuela, migration trends, societal division, and the value of maintaining perspective and a sense of humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. "Super Flu" Season and Vaccination Skepticism

• [02:38–06:07]
  • The hosts open with an irreverent look at the “super flu” circulating the U.S., questioning whether this flu season is genuinely worse or just hyped by media and statistics.
  • Jack Armstrong: “I'm just so skeptical about all the statistics. Obviously, a lot of people have the flu whether it's worse or not. I don't really quite understand that.” (03:42)
  • Debate the effectiveness of the current flu vaccine amid reports that the circulating strain is less affected by the shot.
  • Neither host has gotten the flu vaccine this year, joking that the show is completely unvaccinated.

2. New Dietary Guidelines & Red Meat Comeback

• [06:07–08:23], [24:19–24:40]
  • The U.S. dietary guidelines, updated every five years, could see significant changes, potentially encouraging more red meat and saturated fat consumption. Both hosts express skepticism about nutrition science and policies.
  • Jack Armstrong: “Very excited about the new guidelines. If that's true, there will be talk of... eat more beef for all the farmers, etc.” (07:08)
  • They note the political dimensions: New York Times coverage described as “scary, scary music sort of Godzilla's coming because they hate RFK Jr so much.”
  • Public and media discourse could focus on processed foods and whether the guidelines finally address them seriously.

3. Sex vs. Bacon: Philosophical Morning Dilemmas

• [07:54–09:39]
  • A lighthearted segment explores whether waking up to the smell of bacon or to sex is the better way to start the day—a humorous, relatable debate.
  • Joe Getty: “In 10 minutes, you'll still be warm, but the bacon will be cold. I'm just, just pointing that out.” (09:27)
  • The hosts agree both are excellent ways to kick off the morning but note “bacon's a guaranteed prospect.”
  • Memorable quote: “Bacon would be a great after sex snack. Where's the bacon?” – Jack Armstrong (09:03)
  • The conversation jokes about priorities, age, and likelihood.

4. Dry January, Drinking Habits, and Sinatra Wisdom

• [09:44–10:31]
  • Discussion on Dry January and their personal connections with alcohol. Joe’s observing “at least half of it” this year.
  • Reference Frank Sinatra’s quote: "He doesn't understand people who don’t drink because that means when you get up in the morning, that’s the best you're going to feel all day long." (09:44)
  • Jokes about team members’ (non-)drinking habits.

5. Gary Busey's Four (actually Five) Things to Do Every Morning

• [11:05–12:44]
  • Play an audio clip of Gary Busey’s advice for starting your day. The joke is that Busey lists three things … but names four (breathing, brush teeth, get dressed, declare a great day).
  • Jack Armstrong: “Three things you need to do … And then he lists four things.” (11:32)
  • Light teasing about self-affirmations (“Not a very me sort of thing to do.” — Jack Armstrong).

6. Breaking News & Venezuela’s Oil Power Struggle

• [12:47–14:05], [17:04–17:39], [24:19–24:40]
  • Developments in Venezuela: The U.S. has seized a Russian-owned oil tanker in Venezuelan waters, potentially affecting global oil flow and propping up Cuba’s regime.
  • Joe Getty: “Venezuelan oil props up the evil communist Cuban regime. It is their life's blood.” (13:12)
  • Hints at “Game of Thrones-like” power struggles between Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, with expanded analysis “coming up”.

7. National Migration Trends: U-Haul Index & Tax Exodus

• [25:07–33:42]
  • U-Haul’s latest data shows California is the top state people are moving out of, for the sixth straight year, with most “loser” states being “deep blue.”
  • Joe Getty: “California, dead last for the sixth consecutive year.” (27:12)
  • Discusses the demographic, financial, and political drivers behind migration.
  • A recurring joke: “Don’t California my Idaho.”

8. News Roundup & Headlines

• [17:49–21:19]
  • Lead story segment with Katie Green covers oddball and major news:
    • US threats to acquire Greenland ("Why start with ‘we might use the military’?”),
    • The DOJ’s snail’s-pace Epstein investigation,
    • AI mislabeling a Canadian artist as a sex offender,
    • High costs of youth sports,
    • Lollipops with “bone induction” music tech,
    • Right-wing embrace of raw red meat diets,
    • Babylon Bee satire: “Donnie turns to The View to receive his morning classified briefing.”
  • Joe Getty: “Bone induction sounds like a euphemism... right before the bacon.” (20:30)

9. Listener Mail & Societal Critique

• [38:08–45:21]
  • “Freedom-hating quote of the day” examines anti-white rhetoric from a public figure—lampooned as distilled racism.
  • Observations on societal divisions, rising “state vs. state” political sorting, and largely ineffective scandal accountability.
  • Mailbag delivers humorous takes on Jack’s travel-tipping habits and government scandals.

10. Quick Hits & Teases

• [14:49–16:47], [33:42–34:35], [35:13–35:46], [38:08–38:39]
  • Tease: Leaked shifts in U.S. stance toward Russia/Ukraine, with reports of more assertive, pro-Ukraine position and possible peacekeeping initiative.
  • Plans to discuss “Game of Thrones in Venezuela.”
  • Offhand promise to revisit a World War II museum trip and speculation why men obsess over certain history periods.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joe Getty (on morning priorities): "In 10 minutes, you'll still be warm, but the bacon will be cold. I'm just, just pointing that out." (09:27)
• Jack Armstrong (regarding updated dietary guidelines): “If that's true, there will be talk of... eat more beef for all the farmers, etc.” (07:08)
• Joe Getty (on outflow from states): “California, dead last for the sixth consecutive year … It takes a lot to alienate people from California's glorious climate and scenery. And they are both absolutely glorious. But its politicians have been up to the task.” (32:42)
• Jack Armstrong (about morning affirmations): “I don't see myself saying that every morning. It's not a very me sort of thing to do.” (12:44)
• Joe Getty (regarding freedom-hating rhetoric): “It's important that white people feel defeated. That is something…” (40:01)

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Important Timestamps and Segment Guide

| Time | Segment Description | |------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:23–06:07 | Super flu chatter, skepticism, and vaccine talk | | 06:07–08:23 | Anticipated changes to dietary guidelines, beef & fats discussion | | 07:54–09:39 | Sex vs. bacon philosophical debate | | 09:44–10:31 | Dry January, Sinatra on drinking | | 11:05–12:44 | Gary Busey’s “Three” things for a great morning | | 12:47–14:05 | Breaking: Oil tanker seizure, Venezuela context | | 17:49–21:19 | Katie Green's news roundup; headlines from Greenland to sports, diets | | 25:07–33:42 | U-Haul migration data, California exodus, taxes | | 38:08–40:07 | Freedom-hating quote of the day, racial rhetoric | | 40:07–45:21 | Listener mail, tip-skepticism, government scandal apathy |

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Tone & Style

Armstrong and Getty maintain their trademark irreverence, guiding the conversation with equal doses of skepticism, wit, and sociopolitical insight. Frequent asides and digressions are laced with humor, skepticism toward official narratives and statistics, and relatable, everyday concerns. The show flows naturally, balancing serious commentary with banter and self-deprecation.

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Summary Takeaway

In this engaging and eclectic episode, Armstrong and Getty highlight America’s peculiar obsessions—from health panics and food trends to the quirks of migration and morning rituals. A show that’s equal parts news analysis, cultural observation, and playful contrarianism, this episode reflects a nation in flux—joking about bacon and sex, but always circling back to deeper questions of who we trust, where we live, and how much any of it really matters if the bacon gets cold.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio.

[Joe Getty]

Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong. Live from Studio C. Si Senor.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is a dimly lit room deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound, surrounded by razor wire, Doberman pincers and some sort of anti flu vaccine that we're spraying on everything. And today we are the tutelage of.

[Joe Getty]

Our General manager at Jack's request, the Super Flu.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Super Flu which I've heard, I've heard that term about 800 times already today.

[Joe Getty]

And I had. I don't think I've heard a reference to any gathering without somebody saying, Jim wasn't there. He's got the flu.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, really?

[Joe Getty]

You know, Betty missed and. Really? Yeah, I'm hearing that a lot.

[Jack Armstrong]

Huh.

[Joe Getty]

It's that time of year, of course. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So is it a worse flu than usual? Is that why they're calling it the super flu?

[Joe Getty]

I don't really know. I'm not hip to that. I was hoping you had. Were you gonna bring the goods?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, they're saying that, but every statistic coming out of COVID every statistic that they give, I know kind of the background of how those are compiled. For instance, they did the deaths and then it said something down in fine print of with flu related, in addition to flu related symptoms or something like, so how many people died of whatever and also had the flu? You know, that old question.

[Joe Getty]

So I just, I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm just so skeptical about all the statistics. Obviously a lot of people have the flu whether it's worse or not. I don't, I don't really quite understand that. Also a lot of information contradicting each other about whether or not getting the flu vaccine is. Does any good on this. The super flu variant the vaccine doesn't really work on, according to News Nation. I was just watching. But the doctors say it's still a good idea to get the flu. Of course they say that.

[Joe Getty]

Now did you get any sense of the. What sort of superness are we talking about it? I mean, it's just a super flu. You don't feel bad at all? I doubt it's that. I think it's probably like super nasty or super transmissible or what it seems to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

And again, this is just based on the news I'm following. Whether it's not or not more easily spread, it's just easier to catch and spread around. And it seems to be moving. Looking at the map kind of east to west across the United States. That's another thing we learned right. During COVID is, you know, a state would have this and state would have that and then be talking about what they're doing right or wrong. But then you'd realize eventually all the other weeks later. Yeah, yeah. All the other states get it too. It just starts somewhere and then it travels.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Right, exactly. If it is moving to the west, according to U Haul, that's the only thing moving to California. As Cal Unicornia has Once again topped the biggest outflow state statistics as people flee the crumbling.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, really? What the hell is going on?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Mismanagement, Gabby. Horrifyingly mismanaged policy. We're all human.

[Jack Armstrong]

We all fall short sometimes. And just the cost of living in.

[Joe Getty]

California, Dumb as an effing rock.

[Jack Armstrong]

But looking at the flu map of where it's the worst. It's the. It's all your states that have all the news channels have the worst flu right now. So that's why they're going to talk about it so much, I suppose. And it's. It gets a little better as you move across the United States. Although the flu will probably travel as. As these things do.

[Joe Getty]

It's short for influenza, Jack.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. It's all I got. That's fantastic. That's very helpful.

[Joe Getty]

Sorry.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you did get the flu vaccine or didn't get the flu vaccine?

[Joe Getty]

I don't think I did.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think we're a completely unvaccinated show.

[Joe Getty]

Oh no. Katie Jr. Would approve.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't get it. I didn't get it. Joe and Hanson, none of us got the flu vaccine so.

[Joe Getty]

I often do. I. I don't think I did this here.

[Jack Armstrong]

I often don't. I'm more of an. And I've always been an anti tax tasker, not an anti vaxxer. I'm not as bothered by the vaccines as I am about having to go in and get it done. Make time for that. The other health thing, speaking of the CDC and all that sort of stuff, is RFK Juniors announcing the updated dietary guidelines today. We update them every five years, I guess, although they usually just kind of leave it more or less the same. But this year they're expecting some major changes which is very exciting and I'll tell you why I'm excited about it. According to the New York Times, which of course is presenting this all in a scary, scary music sort of Godzilla's coming because they hate RFK Jr so much. In recent months, Mr. Kennedy and the Agricultural Secretary have suggested the new guidelines would be. Would be recommending more red meat, in particular beef. Very excited about the new guidelines.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, of course.

[Jack Armstrong]

If that's true, there will be talk of. Of course the Agricultural Secretary wanted the guidelines to say eat more beef for all the farmers, etc.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

The new guidelines also might encourage the consumption of saturated fats which has not been a thing recently. Encouraging that doesn't know whether or not the new guidelines will say anything about ultra processed foods which we've all decided in the last Year like the worst thing in the world for us and we should stop eating them.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And they'll be watching the guidelines, poison and suicide. Yes, they'll be watching the guidelines for what they say about alcohol given recent evidence that no amount of drinking is safe. No, no. Shut off.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, shut up. Had a conversation on the golf course the other day with a friend of mine about the question of the, the decision, the choice of waking up to sex or waking up to the smell of bacon in the house and, and, and how that might change in life and. Wow. We agreed that that to, to, to awaken to one or the other is about as good as life gets.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I would agree. I certainly not at the age where I would prefer bacon though. I, I don't know if that happens at some point in your life, but.

[Joe Getty]

Well, there was also the question of likelihood that factored into discussion. Yeah, right, right there it was, it was a full, full, you know, exchange of ideas over the. The question of I can make sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm going to have bacon. That's pretty easy to do, right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, exactly. But to wake up and realize one significant other is already frying up God's gift to mankind and taking that smell and that's a good start to the day. And then she gives you sex. Wow, honey, I brought bacon. You're naked.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would go the other way around. I would go the other way around. I think bacon would be a great after sex snack. Where's the bacon?

[Joe Getty]

Well, the problem being though, if, if the smell of bacon was in the air, it might even be hard to concentrate on loving because you'd keep thinking, wow, wow, there's fresh bacon. It's getting cold.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm both there ruminating about your prowess, enjoying a stick of bacon.

[Joe Getty]

In 10 minutes. You'll still be warm, but the bacon will be cold. I'm just, just pointing that out.

[Jack Armstrong]

So maybe we, I don't know. You're going bacon first. That's just.

[Joe Getty]

I'm just analyzing. I'm waiting. I don't want group think here.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm weighing the ideas.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

You really like breakfast.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, really do, Michael.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're so rightly. And combining these two thoughts, alcohol and that, that sort of experiment there. I heard somebody say yesterday, I. If I'd ever heard this before, I'd forgotten it. I guess it's a Frank Sinatra quote. He doesn't understand people who don't drink because that means when you get up in the morning, that's the best you're going to feel all day long.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which Is kind of funny.

[Joe Getty]

Like so many folks, I'm drying out this January. And it's funny because I remember in December when I was really. I was getting after it too much. It was terrible. I was drinking too much. And I would get up in the morning and think, God, you look terrible. But then I realized now that's just how I look in the morning.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh.

[Joe Getty]

Sober or not, are you doing terrible?

[Jack Armstrong]

I was gonna ask this yesterday. You're doing dry January?

[Joe Getty]

At least half of it. I'm definitely gonna do two weeks. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're going to do what?

[Joe Getty]

Two weeks.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. At least Katie's doing dry. Pregnancy. Michael. Michael doesn't drink. I don't drink. Hanson, you doing dry January? Don't know if Hanson's doing dry.

[Joe Getty]

He doesn't drink much at all.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, Hanson said he's drunk right now.

[Joe Getty]

Who can blame him?

[Jack Armstrong]

Fantastic. Let's start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this. It is Wednesday, January 7th, the year 2025. Oh, 2026. We're Armstrong and Getty and I approve of this program.

[Joe Getty]

All right, let's begin. Now, officially, according to FCC rules, regulations, the show must start at mark.

[Jack Armstrong]

In this new year, there's three things that you must love doing. When you wake up, make sure you're breathing. And then when you go in the bathroom, look at the mirror, look at your teeth and brush your teeth. And the third thing you do, you get dressed. And then the fourth thing you do is say, what a great day this is going to be.

[Joe Getty]

America's philosopher king, Gary Busey, with the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Three things you need to do every morning to start the new year. And then he lists four things.

[Joe Getty]

Very Joe Biden.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like, yeah, no kidding.

[Joe Getty]

Wake up. Make sure you're breathing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's. Well, okay.

[Joe Getty]

Brush. It was. Brush your teeth. The third one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Second one. Second one. Then get dressed. Get dressed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

And then tip. Good tip. Then say, what a great day, or.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whatever he said, what a great day this is going to be.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Right. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I should try that. Maybe put that on the mirror every morning. Say, this is going to be a fantastic day. Be one of those people. See if it has any effect on my mood.

[Joe Getty]

That's too jivey for you. I know you. It's got to be more reasonable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe I'll have a little bacon sex. Start the day.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. No, I was working on the other project, and now it's. You're jerking me around. Something like, great things could happen today.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we have. We have a. Yeah, I like that great though.

[Joe Getty]

This is going to be a wonderful day.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm like what a great day this.

[Joe Getty]

Is going to be.

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Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I don't see myself saying that every morning. It's not a very me sort of thing to do. We do have kind of a breaking news as we go on the air. It looks like we seized a tanker there in off the coast of Venezuelan that belongs to the Russians.

[Joe Getty]

My tanker.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get into the hole. This is going to have an effect on the world oil wise thing. I just heard this morning that China gets a third of their oil from Venezuela. Yes, we could have a great effect on them.

[Joe Getty]

And, and Venezuelan oil props up the evil communist Cuban regime. It is their life's blood. Well, it's oil but it's, it's, it's, it keeps them afloat.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, cut it off. Sort of a tease. I was listening to a podcast yesterday from the the Dispatch and they are, they do not like Trump over the Dispatch at all. But they're, they're expert that they interviewed about the whole Maduro, Venezuela thing was this was going to happen eventually. It should have happened a long time ago and only Trump was the person that had the balls to actually do it. Yeah, we've had enough sanctions and indictments and bounties on the guy's head but nobody was ever going to make anybody pay a price. And finally we did right for the reasons you just said. So we got a lot of good stuff on that. Katie's news on the way. Stay here.

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[Joe Getty]

Yeah, all sorts of good stuff to talk about today, including the fact maybe to kick off next hour we'll talk about it. But Jack, you framed the whole nick not Nicaragua, Venezuela situation as very Game of, of Throney yesterday. Game of Thronesy and, and, and digging into it earlier today, I, I think you're absolutely right. It's really, really interesting. The different centers of power competing to run that place and the foreign influence and the rest of it. So we'll be taking a look at Venezuela of Thrones or something. I've come up with a name for.

[Jack Armstrong]

It, but super interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, hope you can stay tuned. Right now, let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green. Katie? Alrighty. We'll start with the Alphabet Networks on the Greenland issue.

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Abc, Denmark and Greenland seek talks with Rubio after White House again says it wants island.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're going to buy that thing.

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NBC U.S. military action is an option to acquire Greenland according to the White House and cbs. White House discussing, quote, range of options for acquiring Greenland, including US Military takeover.

[Jack Armstrong]

By force, as we discussed yesterday. Why he pretends that's an option. I don't know why he thinks that helps.

[Joe Getty]

It's horrible. It's like somebody comes to buy your car or something and you say, I'm going to beat you into the hospital if you don't buy this car now. Will you pay 12 grand for it? I mean, don't start that way. Don't humiliate people unnecessarily, especially your friends.

[Jack Armstrong]

How about a casual argument with your husband or wife? And you say, and I'm not taking.

[Joe Getty]

Divorce off the table.

[Jack Armstrong]

What? Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

What?

[Joe Getty]

This ends wrong. I'm going to physically remove. Remove you from the house. And we're divorced anywhere. Why did you want. Where did you want to go to dinner? I mean, that's. Jeez Louise. The New York, New York Post DOJ says it has released less than 1%.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of Epstein files with more than 2.

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Million documents under review.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did you hear that? All of this nonsense. And it's been nonsense the last month. All of these releases that they get all excited about it. We've seen less than 1%. We could do this a hundred more times. Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

Kill me. From Vice.

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Canadian artist has show canceled after AI.

[Joe Getty]

Labeled him a sex offender. Preparing to sue Google. What? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I need to know more about this story.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. It's a. It's an example of AI gossip. It's called in some situations and just the hallucinations. Whoa. About specific people. Wow. Because the big. The platforms, they trade information back and forth. They read from each other and so it's like a rumor mill or Son of a gun.

[Announcer]

From the Washington Post, the soaring price of youth sports.

[Joe Getty]

$50 to try out, $3,000 to play.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's a good one. We should talk about that more later.

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[Joe Getty]

Play music in your head as you eat them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just what I want. I don't.

[Joe Getty]

I don't. I don't need that. They use something called bone induction technology. Oh, okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's like the headphones I got.

[Joe Getty]

All right, this one also from the New York Post. Bone induction sounds like a euphemism. I'm sorry. Go on. Sorry, it just does.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right before the bacon. I'm looking for a little bone.

[Joe Getty]

Bone induction. Oh, no. Easy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good.

[Joe Getty]

All right. New York post.

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I eat 2 pounds of raw meat a day, including ground chuck and steak.

[Joe Getty]

Shockingly, it led to a bizarre antibiotic resistant infection.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, there is a. We don't have time for this right now. But there is a kind of a. Like a growing Republican right wing maga. Eating red meat thing is a big deal. And that's one of the reasons the fda, they think the guidelines might be eat a lot more red meat.

[Joe Getty]

People want the beef. Join a church and have some kids. People, please.

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[Joe Getty]

Bee mom Donnie turns to the View to receive his morning classified briefing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. So we can update you on a whole bunch of those news stories of the day. I do want to hit you with the rumor around the peace deal in Ukraine and Russia because it's pretty surprising, among other things.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I was just thinking back to the Epstein thing very, very briefly. I'll tell you what. I'll make you a deal. I'm going to ignore the next three rounds of headlines about it. Then we'll compare notes and see if I missed anything significant.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, well, I ignored the last three rounds, so that's where we are now. If you missed a segment, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Cabello or Cabello. That's going to be a name everybody knows soon. He's the big military leader down in there in Venezuela who may try to take over as a dictator and we'll talk about that more a little bit later. It's leaking about out about the new dietary guidelines for Americans, as if any of us follow them, although they will probably force them into the schools somehow is kind of the way it works.

[Joe Getty]

Oh boy. Yeah, great. And more from the Mumdani administration and his band of insane communists. And I'm not being hyperbolic calling them communists. They're communists. They're in favor of communism is how I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, Update on That chick who, who believes you shouldn't be able to own a home. Owning a home is a believer.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Home.

[Jack Armstrong]

Owning a home is white supremacy. Yeah, we have an update on her.

[Joe Getty]

That's not surprising. Yeah, yeah. Homeownership should be collective, not personal. Anyway, it's that sort of governance that's driving people out of blue states primarily the big U Haul Growth Index rankings of net migration between states has come out. It takes like a year and a half for the census to come out, but U Haul hits you with it on January 7th or the 6th. I think this came out. As the company explains, U Haul ranks states by their net gain or loss of customers who rent a one way truck trailer or U box moving container in one state and drop off their equipment in another state. The U Haul Growth index is compiled from well over 2 1/2 million annual one way transactions across the US and Canada.

[Jack Armstrong]

Really?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. That's pretty good sample size. While rankings may not correlate directly to population or economic growth, the U Haul Growth index is an effective gauge of how well states, metros and cities are attracting and maintaining residents. I think is kind of freakonomics, you know, measures. It's a pretty good one.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's got to be pretty good. I've done a lot of U haul rentals in my life and I don't think I've ever done a one way. I mean just I was moving stuff around, then I take it back to the same place.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I did a couple of one one ways moving state to state. But yeah, I've never heard anybody question.

[Jack Armstrong]

As my, my point was I don't know how often you would ever do that when you're not moving state to state.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I see.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. I've done it a bunch of times where I have to move something around, then I bring the truck back because I wasn't moving it.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. So the worst performers were mostly familiar deep blue faces with California ranking dead last for the sixth consecutive year. Although U Haul notes its net loss was smaller in 2025 than it was in 2024.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now it's a big estate with the biggest population. So I mean if all, if, if you had the same percentage of people move at every, from every state, you'd have a higher number for California because we got more people.

[Joe Getty]

Nobody's. Remember it's a net measurement, people moving away, people moving there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

So it's a plus or minus certain number of points.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good point.

[Joe Getty]

So California, dead last for the sixth consecutive year. Of the 11 biggest losers, eight have completely blue governments. California, Illinois, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, Maryland, Connecticut and Rhode island and two others, Pennsylvania and Michigan have had Democratic governors and largely Democratic governance for some time. The lone red exception is Ohio which also had the biggest one year drop off. Then they, they mentioned that there are obviously a number of variables at work here beyond simple party control. Not every red or blue state pursues the same mix of policies, has the same weather or demographics, or relies upon the same mix of industries.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wonder how many of those people are retiring that are, that are, you know, as our population gets older and then deciding where to move. How often in your life do you just get to choose wherever you're going to go? Got into this conversation with my big family gathering for Christmas in in K and got a couple of people who are at that age, they're out of college and kind of deciding where they want to be. And I, and I said I've never gotten decide. Had the chance to decide where I was going to live at one time in my life.

[Joe Getty]

So far.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's always been the best job that became available. That's where I'm living all of a sudden.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Yeah. All I can give you is anecdotal evidence. The many, many emails we received from people who've made this move or that move willingly and you know, we, we've known a handful of folks just that we've worked with that have decided I don't want to raise my kids here and blah blah, blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

People with good jobs.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, indeed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because it's a heck of a thing to pick up and change your jobs, maybe your career if that job doesn't exist where you're going and you know, start over again with all your friends and everything like that. That's a big deal.

[Joe Getty]

Well, right. And I think your, your question about have you ever been able to. That's more, I think that more illustrates how important it is to people as opposed to denying that it's happening because people self segregating by geography to red states and blue states is unquestionably happening. Well, even if it was absolutely happening.

[Jack Armstrong]

Even if it was retirees who have the choice of the whole country, it means a lot if you're deciding not to.

[Joe Getty]

California. I would agree. I would agree. But if you are a person of left, first of all, thanks for listening to the show. You must be very patient. Secondly, don't turn your new home into your old crappy home. Okay? You left it. Why do you think that is? Because you didn't like it enough to stay so don't change the new place into the old place.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't.

[Joe Getty]

California, My Idaho. I don't live in Idaho or Texas or whatever. Stop it. Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

You get to the new state and you think, wait a second, they don't have helmet laws for kids to. Blah, blah, blah.

[Joe Getty]

You just let people have plastic bags at your grocery stores. We've got to pass a measure. Oh, my Lord. Oh, I made myself angry. That's weird. Let's see. Oh, okay. Demographics, weather, industries, blah, blah. Still, the overall pattern remains clear and consistent. Has for some time. States with solidly read governance make up seven of the top 10 states for gaining people. Texas and Florida being first and second again and sixth of the next eight among the top 10. There's only one blue state, that's Washington, which is very, very blue and also very, very beautiful and has no sales tax. Am I correct? Yeah. And two with Democratic governors. North Carolina, Arizona have long had solidly Republican legislatures. Florida, as the company notes, has ranked in the top four every year since the index started in 2015. And then they get into the probably the most compelling stat, which is that three of the top four states attracting movers had no personal income tax. Texas, Florida and Tennessee. California, ranked dead last in the index, imposes the highest top personal income tax rate in the nation at 13 and a third percent. Oh, is that what it is? Oh, my God. That's the top incremental rate.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Or marginal rate. The 10 best ranked states in the index have significantly lower personal income taxes than the index's ten worst ranked states. Three and a half percent is the. The average income tax of the top ten. Three and a half percent among the bottom ten. It's 7.2% average top state personal income tax rate of the ten worst ranked. Oh, I'm sorry, they read that backwards. Anyway, as a group, the 10 worst ranked states impose a top personal income tax rate more than twice as high as the 10 best ranked states.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I've heard. I've got a friend who regularly says, like, they're enjoying California and this is why we pay taxes. And my argument would be.

[Joe Getty]

So they can be squandered on junkies.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you could make the argument that that's why you're willing to put up with the high taxes is the weather, the parks, the whatever. But they don't have to go together. You can still have nice weather and fantastic mountains and oceans and stuff like that and have lower taxes. There's. They, they didn't cause the mountains and the oceans.

[Joe Getty]

It's not state funded beaches. I mean the sand was there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

And so finally the conclusion. The general trend of people moving from colder northern to warmer sunnier southern states makes California's perennial dead last ranking all the more appalling.

[Jack Armstrong]

No kidding. Good point.

[Joe Getty]

It takes a lot to alienate people from California's glorious climate and scenery. And they are both absolutely glorious. But its politicians have been up to the task.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you know, if you're leaving Minnesota for someplace warmer, everybody understands that if you're leaving the most one of the most beautiful places on earth, gotta be a reason. There are push factors.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, and as Dan McLaughlin points out in the National Review, states that have a persistent outflow of their own residents can stave off collapsing population only by parentally importing foreigners. That ring a bell? Anybody? If that spigot dries up the bluest of the blue state models are in even more trouble than before. What is he going to do?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, what an interesting thing. But follow this migration year by year by year. By the way, I'm very excited about this weekend with football action. I follow the NBA also and maybe you should get a prize picks app downloaded on your phone or your computer or whatever so you can get in on the action.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Just because I tease this. I'll jam this in before we take a break and get the mailbag. According to open source the website, the negotiations yesterday with the coalition of the willing in Paris and the European leaders about the whole Russia, Ukraine thing, they observed a significant shift in the United States stance toward both Russia and Ukraine. You got Steve Witkoff there and you got Trump's son in law Jared Kushner there as the main negotiators took a notably more assertive position against Russia during the talks with European allies, according to people that were in the meetings. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Isn't that interesting? I don't know what's driving that.

[Joe Getty]

I had no idea whether you were going to say Russia or Ukraine at the end of that one sentence when.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was reading the story. I had no idea how it was going to end up. It was like a suspense thriller for the first time, expressing strong and solid port for support for deploying a multinational peacekeeping force and proposing robust security guarantees along the lines of NATO's Article 5. What?

[Joe Getty]

Where did this come from? Wait, whoa, whoa, hey, hang on. Plus the Game of Thrones playing out in Venezuela. Can't wait to talk about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good stuff and mailbag on the way. Stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Every male is obsessed with World War II or the Roman Empire. We all learned that last year. I took a vacation just to go to the World War II Museum and I have a bunch of notes on that that I wanted to talk about. I haven't gotten around to yet. So maybe in coming hours, things I learned or relearned.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, every man over the age of what it is 40 either chooses the Roman Empire or World War II. I would like to throw in the Civil War for consideration. I'm kind of into that. But yeah, it's true. It's absolutely true. And we've talked about why that is.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I think it's.

[Joe Getty]

It's not a joke. No, it's not a joke at all. Yeah, here's your freedom hating quote of the day. Continuing on that theme, taking a break from freedom loving quotes to look at people who really despise liberty and see what sort of things they say. In this case, yet another one of Zoran Mumdani's cabinet. This happens to be one Almonte da Costa, who is his director of appointments, whatever that is. First of all, back in the day, not long ago, she's not an old person, but about a decade ago, she unleashed a torrent of absolutely unbelievable Nazi level anti Jew statements online. Just unbelievable. Anti Semite. She now says she doesn't think that way. In fact, she's married to a Jewish fellow and she's very, very sorry. So I don't know, you're young, you're stupid, you shoot off your mouth. But she is a communist. So here's your freedom of hating quote of the day. When Trump was first elected in 2016, she said this was a harsh blow, but it's not time to not the first time this country has let me down. It's important that white people feel defeated. For so long, power has been in the hands of men and or white people. It has brought us to ruin. It's important that white people feel defeated. That is something it's your freedom hating quote of the day.

[Jack Armstrong]

That you can get away with saying that at any point in your life and then end up in public office.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just astounding to me.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, his, his cabal of communists is going to be making some serious headlines and we're, we're watching it. Mailbag, Drop us a Note [e-mail] you're blaming a race.

[Jack Armstrong]

You think the country's in a bad shape and you're blaming the race. And you can get away with that if it's white. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I love and respect people of whatever race or color or creed if they're good people and they do great things. But no, she hates white people. Hey, by the way, you know, we did come up with like most of the philosophies that run the world and Western civilization and most of the science and the rest of it. Not all of it certainly, but a lot of it. So maybe you ought to cut us a little slack. It's that if you're going to assign collective blame and credit, it's also the definition of racism. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. It's like distilled down to its essence. Anyway, drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongetti.com I mentioned yesterday that I asked Google Gemini to design me a First Amendment tattoo. It was absolutely hilarious, riddled with misspellings and typos and that sort of thing which we talked about. Rich writes, joe, the check is in the mail. Please get that tattoo. I assume he may. He means the floundering typo riddled one Jack to your story of not tipping the maid even though she dug through the garbage like the big garbage to find your dirty clothes. Good Lord. Even just in the retelling, it's disgusting. Sean points out if this were George Costanza instead of Jack, he would have felt guilty about not tipping and not wanting to see the maid again and feel bad. He would have called ICE and had her rendition to an El Salvador in prison. The last shot would have been her dress like Maduro on the plane.

[Jack Armstrong]

I thought I was going to get most of my hate for running through Anne Frank's bedroom, but I got it for not tipping the maid. Neither one of them are something I proud of.

[Joe Getty]

I'm proud of well, yeah, when you got to go, you got to go, Alex. The Marine writes, Pete Hegseth is incompetent. Remember how we were told again and again how incompetent Sec Def. Pete Hegseth is? This incredible raid into Caracas was executed by Pete's war department department. Let's compare this raid to Lloyd Austin's Afghanistan withdrawal. You know, Sec. Def. How much credit do they deserve? Some, certainly. But you know, it's funny, I'm not seeing a lot of headlines in the New York Times, for instance, saying we were wrong about Pete Hegseth. His war department is running like clockwork. It's a good point, Alex.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thanks.

[Joe Getty]

Let's see, Stephen, on the topic of Trump in Venezuela, for the way that Trump used all of his high tech resources to swoop in quickly and capture a villain without anyone knowing it until it was over, can please, please, please start referring to him as President Batman? Well, the Cuban security forces knew what was going on because 43 of them are croaked and Cuba's vaunted intelligence and security forces have been pantsed in front of the world. Tell you what, keep your eye on Cuba. Those commies are shaken in their commie boots.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And rightfully so.

[Joe Getty]

And the Cuban heels, I'm guessing, on those boots. I mean, the fact that Russia's air.

[Jack Armstrong]

Defense systems that they sell to countries around the world because they're supposed to be so great were just dismantled and we got by them easily.

[Joe Getty]

That's a big story. That is big. You're right. And then this, it's a screen capture from Charlotte's X feed and it is of the demonstrators in Iran. And that's another story we really need to tune into, at least to some extent. But it's a protester just going by a sign that says allegedly in Persian in Farsi Trump Street. And sure enough, she verified it says Trump Seat street waiting for the YMCA dance. Cheers, Charlotte. Charlotte. So, wow. So the good folks in Iran, like the good folks in Venezuela, are like, yay, Trump. Yay Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

According to the Associated Press, the Ayatollah is in hiding because he's concerned that we or Israel is going to snatch him up. Just like we snatched up Maduro.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. And then we don't have a lot of time for this. But 20 year school marm, who is a Minnesotan, makes a couple of points about thank goodness for Nick Shirley and the investigation into the Minnesota fraud cartels. And it's just enormous. And as we've known it for a long time in Minnesota, she says but it didn't really get much of attention, she says. I will never forget as long as I lived, the moment I heard on the radio that Kamala had picked Tim. Here's a real man. Waltz is her vp. Dear reader, I, along with all other sane Minnesotans, guffawed. How in the world did her team make such an absurd choice?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, with the scandal being out there for people who were paying attention. Yeah, how did Kamala's campaign not know he had that?

[Joe Getty]

You know, it's interesting, in Waltz's debate with J.D. vance didn't even come up once, even though there were already multiple prosecutions.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

It just taxpayer wasted taxpayer money, as you've pointed out. People just don't pay much attention to.

[Jack Armstrong]

It or they don't feel like they can do anything about it, I guess.

[Joe Getty]

Ah, that could be these scandals come.

[Jack Armstrong]

And go and nobody really pays a price and everybody just moves on, shrugs their shoulders. If you missed a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. Lots on the way.

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