Intentional Droopy Drawers

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: “Intentional Droopy Drawers” – February 11, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong & Getty launch into a lively mix of Olympic oddities, media criticism, shifting cultural values, gender dynamics in political violence, and controversies around national identity—plus a few irreverent riffs on Super Bowl halftime shows and international quirks. The main thread: the intersection of sports, media, and political activism, with a special focus on hypocrisy and double standards in both coverage and societal expectations. Their informal, tongue-in-cheek style pokes holes in mainstream narratives, sparking debate on everything from Olympic athlete protest culture to political polarization and social media-fueled outrage.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Olympic Mishaps & Testicular Pain

• [00:14 – 02:18]
  • Starts with humor at the expense of French skier Yannick Bertrand's televised mishap (“the gate to the groin for Yannick Bertrand”) and the universal male reaction.
  • Armstrong and Jack joke about the uniqueness of such pain and the questionable utility of replaying these moments for laughs.
    • “There's just no good way to explain to a woman what getting hit in the testicles feels like.” — Joe Getty, [01:33]
    • Katie chimes in, sharing an anecdote about a friend vomiting from such an injury.

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2. Politics in Athletics: Media & Athlete Activism

• [02:19 – 05:32]
  • Armstrong and Getty voice frustration over journalists pressing young athletes for political commentary at the Olympics.
    • “You put them in an uncomfortable position and then you act like they are the ones that brought this forward. That's so uncool.” — Joe Getty, [02:56]
    • They play a clip of a curler making a statement about Minnesota’s unrest, then critique athletes being drawn into divisive discourse.
    • Armstrong: “You're a curler. Keep it short.” — [03:59]
  • Argue that there’s only downside for athletes weighing in (“All it will do is cut off half the people who like you. Or more. That’s all you’ll accomplish.” — Joe Getty, [05:12])

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3. Hypocrisy in Media Questioning & Eileen Gu's China Dilemma

• [05:57 – 10:49]
  • Spotlight on Eileen Gu: American-born, Stanford student, high-profile model, who competes for China in freestyle skiing.
    • Notably, while American athletes are grilled about U.S. politics, Gu avoids tough questions about China’s human rights record.
      • “I don’t know how you sleep at night as a journalist if you do that.” — Joe Getty, [07:54]
      • “She’s a communist propaganda queen.” — Jack, [07:58]
  • Audio of Gu explaining her (market-benefitting) motivations for switching national teams, seeing herself as an ambassador for winter sports.
    • “It sounds like it’s a pretty calculated financial thing... which is fine, I guess. I can’t imagine competing for the communist Chinese as an American born Stanford student.” — Joe Getty, [09:03]
  • They dissect the role of Chinese propaganda and Western media’s double standards.

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4. Olympic Oddities: Rumors, Droopy Drawers, and Scandal

• [11:29 – 12:52]
  • Armstrong reports an Olympic Village rumor: ski jumpers may be injecting their genitals to gain aerodynamic advantage, referencing “intentional droopy drawers”—looser ski suits for extra lift.
    • “If you're willing to inject your penis with hyaluronic acid to win a medal, I think you deserve one.” — Joe Getty, [12:11]

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5. National Stereotypes & Italian Olympic Mishaps

• [13:24 – 15:43]
  • Italian Olympic coverage becomes farcical: an unqualified TV boss takes over the broadcast, botches names, prompting journalistic outrage and strikes.
    • “They’ve all gone out on strike because the boss grabbed the slot and then sucked at it.” — Jack, [14:08]
  • Discussion of flimsy medals breaking during the games, riffing on perceptions of Italian inefficiency.
    • “What a great way to live… and a lot of those countries have very nonproductive economies.” — Joe Getty, [15:16]

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6. Iranian Regime Brutality & U.S. Foreign Policy

• [16:08 – 17:02]
  • Quick, somber detour: Iran's regime reportedly executing protestors in hospitals; Armstrong & Getty discuss J.D. Vance's cautious position on U.S. involvement.
    • “If the people of Iran want to overthrow the government, that's their thing. We're just interested in striking a nuclear deal.” — Paraphrasing J.D. Vance, [16:28]

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7. Political Conformity in Everyday Life: Minneapolis Yoga Studio Case

• [17:29 – 20:17]
  • Play audio from a Minneapolis yoga studio confrontation over staff not making a public stand on immigration; commentary on how “safe” spaces (yoga, cafes, even barbecues) now increasingly force political conversations and conformity.
    • “Yoga was the one thing I'd managed to keep separate from politics. But when I returned… the rules had changed.” — Quoting Ann Bauer, [19:00]
    • “I could feel the sanctity of this place sliding away, just as it had coffee shops, barbecues, business meetings and libraries.” — [19:36]

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8. Women, Crime, and Abortion: Complex Narratives

• [20:17 – 24:11]
  • Discuss a Free Press op-ed: a woman’s post-rape report rationale rooted in concern over “BIPOC overincarceration”—Armstrong & Getty are deeply skeptical.
    • “It’s not possible that there is even one woman on planet earth who got raped but didn’t report it because she thinks too many black people have been put in jail.” — Joe Getty, [20:38]
  • Examine sharply rising British abortion rates; deeper analysis reveals emotional and psychological fitness as reported by women outweighs economic reasons.
    • “I don't think I can handle motherhood emotionally. I'm too crazy. Which is really something.” — Jack, [22:44]

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9. Research on Women and Political Violence; Social Media’s Role

• [24:11 – 28:54]
  • Survey: under certain conditions, women are now more likely than men to justify political violence.
    • “Women were significantly more likely than men to endorse such violence.” — Jack, [26:11]
  • The rise of “punitive femininity”: social media amplifies outrage, performative aggression, and moral absolutism, flipping assumptions about women’s political restraint.
    • “This ain’t going away anytime soon.” — Joe Getty, [28:54]
    • “We must stop rewarding moral outrage, especially when it means support for violence.” — Jack, [28:57]

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10. Super Bowl Halftime Show Controversy & National Identity

• [30:11 – 33:34]
  • Armstrong & Getty react to Megyn Kelly’s televised rant over a Spanish-language Super Bowl halftime show, which triggered conservative ire about cultural “erosion” in America.
    • “What is the national language… of the United States?” — Armstrong, [31:13]
    • “There should be a meatloaf, maybe some fried chicken, and an English speaking performer. That’s what the Super Bowl should be here.” — Armstrong, [32:21]
  • Hosts distance themselves emotionally but do question why shows ignore English-speaking audiences entirely.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On athletes being pulled into politics:
  • “Let's have something that we can flip on and watch or listen to that's not about politics. Something.” — Joe Getty, [04:51]
• On Eileen Gu’s choices:
  • “May you be locked up as a traitor. To your country.” — Joe Getty, [13:20] (sarcastic tone)
• On the rise of “punitive femininity”:
  • “Political disagreement is increasingly treated as a single serious moral offense rather than a simple difference of opinion. That's pretty good sentence there.” — Jack, [34:32]
• On the Super Bowl halftime outrage:
  • “...if I went to one [Super Bowl party] and they did have meatloaf, I would welcome that with open mouth and fork.” — Joe Getty, [32:31]
• On internet outrage and division:
  • “When you see the world that way, punishing someone for holding different views becomes a moral good.” — Quoting Colin Wright, [34:32]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [00:14 – 02:18] — Olympic injury humor & gendered pain
• [02:19 – 05:32] — Athlete activism in Olympics & media pressure
• [05:57 – 10:49] — Eileen Gu and media double standards
• [11:29 – 12:52] — Odd rumors in Olympic ski jumping (“intentional droopy drawers”)
• [13:24 – 15:43] — Italian Olympic coverage scandal & cultural stereotypes
• [17:29 – 20:17] — Minneapolis yoga studio & forced political conformity
• [20:17 – 24:11] — Rising UK abortion rates & explanations
• [24:11 – 28:54] — Gender shift in support for political violence
• [30:11 – 33:34] — Super Bowl halftime show: language, culture, and controversy

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Tone & Style

The conversation is irreverent, fast-paced, and sarcastic, blending cultural critique with pop-culture references and offbeat humor. Armstrong & Getty freely swerve from parody to earnest concern, particularly when it comes to media hypocrisy, the dangers of widespread outrage, and the need for genuine public spaces free of forced politics.

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For New Listeners

If you haven’t listened to the episode, expect a blend of current events, media criticism, and sharp-witted banter that’s both skeptical and unfiltered. The hosts excel at uncovering the seams in mainstream narratives, and aren’t shy about delivering controversial opinions—with an emphasis on encouraging skepticism, critical thinking, and a little humor in the face of societal absurdity.

Transcript

[Podcast Announcer]

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[Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack]

At the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack.

[Armstrong]

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[Jack]

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[Joe Getty]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty. Now it's the frenchman yannick bertrand. Through the s turn, janik bertrand. Oh, the gate to the groin for Yannick Bertrand. And you could hear it. And if you're a man, you could feel it.

[Jack]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Watch this again. Oh, the Frenchman.

[Jack]

Oh.

[Joe Getty]

Miss you. Wow. The boys took a beating on that one. When it happens and you hear the flap. Oh, and then the crowd go, oh. Oh, wow, that's bad. Who made the noise? Was that the announcer?

[Jack]

I think that was the. The gal in the booth. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

I thought that was Jack. No, that was on the. No, no, no, no. That was on the Olympic coverage.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I still thought that was you the whole time. There's just no good way to explain to a woman what getting hit in the testicles feels like.

[Jack]

You know, for the, the record, I don't think women enjoy a blow to the groin at 70 miles per hour either. But yes, it is uniquely horrible.

[Joe Getty]

And I assume women always just think it's pain. It's like getting hit in the throat or the neck, you know, some other vulnerable elbow. But it's not. It's completely different than any other feeling and it's really, really off putting.

[Katie]

I. I grew up with dudes that all used to, you know, kind of smack each other every now and then. And I saw one of my buddies get hit so hard that he immediately threw up after. So I had kind of an idea that it wasn't, that wasn't a good time.

[Joe Getty]

It does make you sick to your stomach and hurts.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Any.

[Jack]

That's enough of that.

[Joe Getty]

That was some funny Olympic coverage right there. Sure. So. I hate this so much. I hate this so much. I should have dug up CBS's coverage of this the other night, cuz they were talking about politics and athletics combined in Italy. As athletes are speaking out in ways that are not, you know, like being liked by everyone. They're not speaking out. Some of them are very few. They're being asked by you reporters, Right? They're young people who have dedicated their lives to a minor sport and are not, you know, necessarily up to speed on either the PR or the delicacies of these political issues. And you put them in an uncomfortable position and then you act like they are the ones that brought this forward. That's so uncool.

[Jack]

New York Times reporters exploited. They're being duped by These reporters trying to gin up controversy.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And here's an example. They asked this curler or whoever, it was a political question.

[Curler Athlete]

What's happening in Minnesota is wrong. There's no shades of gray. It's clear. First of all, I'd like to say I'm proud to be here to represent Team USA and to represent our country. But we'd be remiss if we didn't at least mention what's going on in Minnesota and what a tough time it's been for everybody. We love our country. We're playing for the U.S. we're playing for Team USA and we're playing for each other and we're playing for our family and our friends that sacrifice so much.

[Joe Getty]

All right, that's enough. So he.

[Jack]

Oh, my God, you're a curler. Keep it short.

[Joe Getty]

And he's an attorney, so he has a point of view and is well spoken and educated. Everything like that. But what they're doing with a lot of these athletes, they're completely blindsided by you. You marched in the other day carrying the American flag. Are you proud of that? With what's going on in Minnesota? And you're like an 18 year old figure skater and you're like, I guess. I don't know. I saw that on the news. It looks bad. I don't know. And. Which is just an awful, awful thing to do to the curler. Shut up and curl. And I know. And the most tired talk radio topic in the world is about free speech. And people died for your ability to say that. I know that. And he can. I just don't think he should. Just shut up. Let's have something that we can flip on and watch or listen to that's not about politics. Something.

[Jack]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

For crying out loud.

[Jack]

What about the sanctity of curling?

[Joe Getty]

What I would say to any of these athletes if I was going to coach them is if you say something, you're not going to make any difference whatsoever in the issue. It's just one of another gazillion people shouting about this all day, every single day. All it will do is cut off half the people who like you. Or more. That's all you'll accomplish.

[Jack]

It's all downside.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's all downside. Zero upside. So just say, I'm just happy to compete. I've worked my whole life for this. And I'm so, you know. And switch the subject. I'm so happy my parents were here. It was awesome seeing my mom in the stands or whatever. Move on.

[Jack]

Yeah. In contrast Though to your hate filled MAGA rantings.

[Joe Getty]

The.

[Jack]

The curler guy. That's what patriotic dissent sounds like, I think.

[Joe Getty]

Sure.

[Jack]

The idea that there are no shades of gray. All right, now you're an idiot. Now you're an activist. But at least he expressed patriotism and love of country. I might disagree with some of the policies, but that doesn't mean I'm not proud of it.

[Joe Getty]

My point is good. There's so many people on cable news all day long saying that you're. You're not going to change the dialogue in any way whatsoever. So all you do is turn off half a people or more. I just don't understand what possible upside there is to maybe makes you feel better that you spoke out in your one moment. But fine. This is an interesting one though. And she was. She was quite the topic last Winter Olympics. This woman who is happens to be Eileen Goofy. I remember us trying to figure out how to pronounce it back in goo the last Olympics. She's 22 years old. She's considered the Brett, the best freestyle skier of all time. Female of all time. She's really, really good. She was born in San Francisco. She went to school in this country. She's currently at Stanford. She's a model because she's crazy, crazy hot. She's got a super Instagram page that's very. She is the highest paid athlete at the entire Olympic Games. Any country, any sport. Wow. She is a big deal.

[Jack]

But she got my attention.

[Joe Getty]

But she decided to compete for China and at least so far. And she won a medal the other night, at least so far. Nobody has said to her from the New York Times, what about Jimmy Lai who got thrown in prison with a death penalty the other day by the Chinese government for believing in free speech or slave labor or all the other million things you could come up with. The China does. She's not asked questions about that.

[Jack]

Right. So the American born actual genocide.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, the American born compete for the United States. Athletes are asked uncomfortable gotcha questions. The born in America super wealthy hottie competing for the number one enemy of the United States in the world. Not asked uncomfortable political questions. I find that just about as important as anything I can imagine. I don't know how you sleep at night as a journalist if you do that.

[Jack]

She's a communist propaganda queen, but apparently she was.

[Joe Getty]

My phone just went off because Hansen actually texted me.

[Jack]

Please silence your devices.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, so this clip we're about to hear where she explains why she's competing for the Chinese is from the last Olympics 2022. At least this is what she was thinking when she was only 18.

[Podcast Announcer]

I guess I chose to ski for China because there's this massive opportunity to spread the sport to people who haven't even heard of it before. And honestly, I have met my goal. There are 300 million people on snow. So to be even, to have even influenced a tiny fraction of that makes me immensely proud. I feel as though I use my voice as much as I can in topics that are relevant and personal to myself and targeted towards people who are willing to listen to me. And that being said, I'm also a teenage girl. So I do my best to make the world a better place. And yeah, I'm having fun while doing it. I'm skiing. I'm hoping to inspire young girls. So that's my message right now.

[Joe Getty]

She has an American father and a Chinese mother. So it sounds like it's a pretty calculated financial thing of I'm going to be, you know, I'm going to expand to another giant, giant market and make a ton of money, which is fine, I guess. I can't imagine competing for the communist Chinese as an American born Stanford student. But how do you explain the. She doesn't get asked delicate political questions and our snowboarders do.

[Jack]

Progressive self hatred. It's the same answer to that's inexcusable. Many of these questions that's inexcusable. Put her people hate the media and don't trust them.

[Joe Getty]

No kidding. Hey Washington Post. Who gets such a kick out of asking these sorts of questions of athletes? You don't, you don't understand why nobody wanted to read your newspaper. Ask her about slave labor. Make her answer for that. It's so maddening.

[Jack]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

She's the richest athlete in the entire Winter Olympics. Partially, most, maybe even mostly because of her, her modeling. She's got several giant contracts with your big companies.

[Jack]

Well, and come on now. The Chinese Communist Party, which is in charge of every business, whether actively or sooner or later in China, is 100% in charge of public information and propaganda and advertising. And she is an incredible propaganda win for the communist Chinese. Look at that. She's an American. She's skiing for China. Why do you think that is? Because we're the superior country with a superior system and superior people.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and then our media has no interest in pushing back against that narrative. In fact, they want to amplify that narrative.

[Jack]

Yes, because they're hateful and stupid.

[Joe Getty]

Because they hate their own country in some sort of weird self hating. I don't get it. This woman featured in Time 100, Forbes, 30 under 30, Vogue covers and more. She models for Louis Vuitton, Victoria's Secret and others. And she is considered the best freestyle skier of all time. So she's got a lot going on. Too bad she decides to ski for the Communist Chinese. I'm surprised that at some point as she gets older, she doesn't think, you know what? I don't want to be associated with the communist Chinese. They're really bad Chinese.

[Jack]

Asshole. Everybody's got their price and hers is probably been fulfilled. God, I would think so many times over.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I think so. Any thoughts on that one? Text line 415295 KFTC ARMSTRONG and GETTY. The Winter Olympics are underway in Milan. There's a rumor making the rounds at the Olympic Village that male skiers, specifically the jumpers, have been ejecting themselves in the genitals to enhance their aerodynamics.

[Jack]

Ski jumpers are now thinking about enlarging their genital areas by injecting hyaluronic acid.

[Joe Getty]

Again, the idea is it improves the dynamics and allows ski jumpers to go further.

[Jack]

If anything was to come to the surface, we would look at anything. If you know it is actually doping related.

[Joe Getty]

If you're willing to inject your penis with hyaluronic acid to win a medal, I think you deserve one. I mean, that's a commitment to your craft, you know? I don't know if I believe that story Now. I know they were having trouble with the outfits where they were like sewing them. Really instead of being skin tight, they were sewing them really loose. So you just had more surface area like a wing. And it was in the crotch area between your legs and under your arms. So you're more like a wing. And they had to make now intentional droopy drawers. Yeah. So they had to crack down on that. So you weren't, you know, coming up with a sail or a kite that you were wearing. But I don't. I don't know if I'd buy that.

[Jack]

No, no, no. I've been reading about this. It's. It's rumored, but they haven't caught anybody doing it. For good reason.

[Joe Getty]

By the way, did a little more research on Eileen Gu, the trader to the United States who skis for the Communist Chinese party. Even though she goes to Stanford and was born in San Francisco, she makes $23 million a year. A year.

[Jack]

There you go.

[Joe Getty]

Good for you. You traded.

[Jack]

Who has no problem with representing the communists.

[Joe Getty]

May you be locked up as a traitor. To your country.

[Jack]

Quite the scandal in Italian media. Jack is the state TV station. Apparently there is one was broadcasting the Olympic opening ceremonies and the boss who's like got like no history of sports casting, appointed himself the play by play guy for the opening ceremonies. There's like getting everybody's names wrong and misidentifying them and just making crap up.

[Joe Getty]

I've done that.

[Jack]

So the Italian journalists, how? Oh really?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I've done that. Back when I used to call basketball games, I didn't have any idea how to pronounce these guys names. I just make it up. But the hard part was I got to remember how I said it the first time. I figured it didn't make any difference that this other team, nobody knows what, how to pronounce the guy's name. But I should say it the same way each time and that's what I would have trouble remembering.

[Jack]

So anyway, the Italian journalists are outraged by all of this apparently, or pretending to be. And so how Italian is this? They've all gone out on strike because the boss grabbed the slot and then sucked at it.

[Joe Getty]

So the other day we had the story, Katie's brought us a story that the metals are breaking. The metals, the, the little clasp around your silver metal gold medal that goes on the ribbon around your neck is flimsy and was breaking. And then the metals were falling off and getting damaged. And you said, how Italian is that? What did you mean by that?

[Jack]

Italian. The Italian government and economy and everything post WW2 has just been more or less a joke.

[Joe Getty]

They known for shoddy workmanship on stuff like that or.

[Jack]

Just they're not exactly an industrial giant. The only thing the Italians made that was great was sports cars and they were notoriously finicky in the 20th century.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack]

No, they're just, they're dysfunctional. They like to smoke and eat yummy food late at night and wear tight clothing, watches, clothes.

[Joe Getty]

They're pretty good at a number of different things. But yeah, industrial wise, not so much, I guess. Yeah, it's interesting those countries that we like to. A lot of people like to vacation to. Where? Why, why do we this. What a great way to live. You take a couple hours in the afternoon to have a couple glasses of wine and a nap and that so. And a lot of those countries have very non productive economies.

[Jack]

Yeah. And they'd probably say, yeah, I was born happy, I lived happy, I'm gonna die happy. They might be right. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Well, I don't know. Some of those countries like are in dire straits of Going completely under. And then that this, this next generation might not have much at all. And the laying around days will be over.

[Jack]

If you want to feed yourself.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And the free health care and all that sort of thing.

[Jack]

Yeah. I shouldn't even bring this up, but the Iranian regime is going bed to bed in hospitals and executing people in hospitals if they were injured in the protests.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack]

And the anger at the regime is growing. They're anticipating a second wave of anti regime anger soon.

[Joe Getty]

And I just saw J.D. vance say just a few minutes ago, hey, if the people of Iran want to overthrow the government, that's their thing. We're just interested in striking a nuclear deal. So that's a long way from Trump saying, go to the streets, attack the institutions. We've got your back. And maybe for good reason. Maybe it made it too easy for the regime to claim this is an American attempt to overthrow us. I don't know.

[Jack]

Which it kind of is.

[Joe Getty]

Which it kind of is. More on the right side of it.

[Jack]

Yeah. I'm mystified. What's actually going on there and why JD Said that. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

So women got a problem? Is that what you're telling us?

[Jack]

Yeah. Globally, there's something definitely going on.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack]

From all sorts of points around the the world. Stay with us.

[Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Let's go. Give us.

[Armstrong]

No, give us answers.

[Joe Getty]

Let's go.

[Armstrong]

Say them out loud for the camera. For all my viewers. Let's hear it. Why are you being silent? Let's hear it.

[Joe Getty]

Delaney.

[Armstrong]

Loud and proud, baby. You want to say it? Let's say it.

[Jack]

Why we played this audio for you yesterday. An infamous video from a yoga studio in Minneapolis in which young employees were being berated for not themselves taking an outward stand about the immigration rates.

[Joe Getty]

I run a yoga studio. I know how to stretch.

[Jack]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack]

And we touched on this piece by what's her name, Ann Bauer, who said how familiar that looked to her. She and her family fled Minneapolis because it had become that. And she said, oh, yeah, it happens all the time. And she first got in trouble during the COVID thing because like so many of us, she said the schools ought to be open. These shutdowns are wrong. And all these arbitrary rules being declared by Governor Walz in that case are wrong. She lost all of her clients for her business, every single one. And lost all of her Minnesota friends but three for saying that online. And she writes, this was just from things I wrote online. Navigating real world. Minneapolis in the post Covid era was a different beast. Essentially. And she lists all sorts of really weird and off putting and hostile encounters she's had. Yoga was the one thing I'd managed to keep separate from politics. But when I returned after they dropped Covid restrictions in 2022, the rules had changed. I know I'm not supposed to talk politics, said one instructor after another, but this is too important.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my God.

[Jack]

Then they would launch into a speech on Palestine or trans athletes or immigration.

[Joe Getty]

And at the yoga class.

[Jack]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, I just can't even believe that. And there aren't more people in the yoga class who say, whoa, whoa, whoa, I didn't come here for this.

[Jack]

Exactly. That's the problem they demanded. And you agree, right? All of you. And everybody had to agree.

[Joe Getty]

She writes.

[Jack]

I could feel the sanctity of this place sliding away, just as it had coffee shops, barbecues, business meetings and libraries. Eventually I'd have to lie or leave. And when she asked the manager of that same branch of yoga studio, by the way, why are you not enforcing the rules against no politics in the studio? They smiled their namaste smiles gave me that side eye that said I know what side you're on and why are you asking? And told me in kindergarten teacher voices. There was nothing they could do, right? Anyway, so they moved away. They moved to Kentucky actually, for what it's worth. So a couple of more headlines about women in politics. Some women in politics should have never.

[Joe Getty]

Given him the vote.

[Jack]

That is really not helping further the discussion. It's a piece that I was turned onto by the free press and read in the original form why I didn't report my rape. And this woman's bottom line was because of the over incarceration of people, particularly bipods.

[Joe Getty]

No, it's not possible. It's not possible that there is even one woman on planet earth who got raped but didn't report it because she thinks too many black people have been put in jail.

[Jack]

I think not possible. Can we turn Katie's microphone on, please, Michael?

[Katie]

I'm just shaking my head in disbelief because I don't think it's possible either. There's no way.

[Jack]

I read this piece and it's actually a different thing because that's some great clickbait. But she feels ambivalence about the situation she was in, what happened and how she reacted to it. And this is her post rationalization for why she didn't call.

[Joe Getty]

Now there are people, it's not as dramatic, but there are people, I've seen this who get robbed and immediately go to compassion for the person who broke into their house and stole stuff because they're so desperate, what with our inequality in this country, I mean.

[Jack]

Yeah, that is effing insane.

[Joe Getty]

You are insane.

[Jack]

You really are. Yeah. And then just one more thing I want to touch on, then I'll get to, like. The main piece I wanted to highlight this was in the Free Press. Why are so many British women getting abortions? And the numbers are astounding. I mean, they're higher than anything I've ever heard about abortion. It's becoming increasingly common. Reached the highest level since, you know, it was legal in 1967, 11%, year over year. From 2022 to 2023, the abortion rate rose from. Well, it's just a bunch of statistics, but to put it more simply, close to one in three pregnancies in Britain now end in termination. And the experts and the liberal newspapers say it's because of the cost of living crisis. But then this journalist looked into it, thought, you know, that. Wait a minute, that doesn't fully explain. Poor people have been having babies. In fact, poor people have more babies, and when Britain's Britons were much poorer.

[Joe Getty]

They had more babies. Sure.

[Jack]

So she looked into it and interviewed dozens and dozens and dozens of women. What emerged was the main answer was, I don't think I can handle motherhood emotionally. I'm too crazy. Which is really something.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. There's an animal where the female decided, I can't procreate because I'm not mentally healthy enough.

[Jack]

Wow. In fact, the women she interviewed, the cost of having a child did not come up, not once, even among younger or working class women.

[Joe Getty]

I've always thought that was a dodge.

[Jack]

Instead, the reason sounded like this. And these are all quotes. My relationship with the father didn't feel stable enough. I mean, I'm not for abortion in that situation, but at least that's an answer. I didn't feel ready to become a parent. I feel it's wrong to have a child when I'm so damaged. The poor child deserves better than me. I could never be a parent because I overanalyze everything. And finally, I just think I would have irreparably effed them up.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God.

[Katie]

Have none of these women heard of birth control or condoms or anything?

[Joe Getty]

Point.

[Jack]

It's, it's, It's a different question. But it is.

[Joe Getty]

It is. Yeah, it's a different. So if you're so freaking crazy that you think I just. I couldn't raise a kid, I would. I would make them miserable or something. That's Terrible. Why. But then don't get pregnant.

[Jack]

Yeah, again, Katie, that's. It's a different question. Um, but it's a. It's a good one. But yeah, anyway, okay, so let's getting to this. I know American women have a terrifying new flirtation, and that is with political violence. And this journalist writes, when we talk about political violence, we almost always assume its perpetrators are young men, which makes sense statistically because men are much more commonly arrested for violent crimes at higher rates, engage in physical aggression, et cetera. But at the same time, blah, blah, blah. Given all that, researchers may reasonably assume young men. Yes, you've already said that. But a recent survey by the network Contagion Research Institute at Rutgers University found that under certain conditions in the modern world, women were more likely than men to express support for political violence. In fact, the findings were so counter that they surprised even the researchers who are probably woke and haven't been observing what we've been observing. But they write, it makes sense though, when you start recognizing where these women's impulses come from. The rise of what I call punitive femininity is downstream from the toxic political culture online, a culture that is transforming the sex long viewed as more restrained and less prone to violence. So they did a survey of well over a thousand respondents asked whether the participants saw any justification for the targeted murder of President Trump or New York City Mayor Zoran Mumdani. And they recorded their answers from zero, completely unjustified to six, highly justified. Among left of center respondents, more, slightly over two thirds expressed at least some justification for the murder of Trump, which is an 11 point increase in one year over the same question. Meanwhile, 54% of right of center respondents expressed some degree of justification for assassinating Mandami. But the most unexpected result, women were significantly more likely than men to endorse such violence.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, and I think that just fits with everything we see, with the just out of their minds, eyes bulging, spit flying out of their mouth, anger from females on college campuses or all the protests you see or whatever, we were just wrong about that all these years. I mean, you said surprising given the genders, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I guess, kind of. But we were just wrong all these years. And it turns out you, if you pay a little attention to history and you've always got that one quote you hit us with, it was always the women. That's just been the history of this sort of thing, women. And it kind of makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint because they got the most to like to protect in the village. In terms of sure, the mama bear.

[Jack]

Is not a myth. No, do not mess with mama. But that protective impulse and that will to violence or willingness to go to violence. If you don't have any children and don't intend to have any children, where is that channeled? Women find someone they perceive as vulnerable and turn that violent impulse in that direction. So the supporters of violence in the survey aren't traditional extremists, they write. Rather, they seem motivated by despair, nihilism and moral confusion. Women seem uniquely at risk for infection by this mindset. Over the past decade, women, especially younger women, have become more politically and effectively polarized in their political judgments. We've seen that have swung way, way, way left. When you see the world that way, punishing someone for holding different views becomes a moral good. I think of this mindset as punitive femininity, the transformation of moral concern into a license to act punitively. Those adopting this attitude are fueled by a combination of raw anger, emotional manipulation, and exaggerated sense of moral certainty. And social media play a central role in this transformation. Modern platforms reward outrage, absolutism and performative aggression. They flatten moral complexity, elevating even glorifying condemnation. This lens makes sense of some of the strangest corners of the Internet, such as the online reaction to Luigi Mangione. They talk about how many people treated Mangione not as a cold blooded murderer of a young father, but as a celebrity. Many explicitly sexualized him, describing him as attractive, charismatic, and even romantic. When violence is paired with attraction, it's stops being judged on moral terms. Instead of asking whether an action is wrong, people start asking whether it feels meaningful, expressive, or somehow justified. And women aren't uniquely prone to this dynamic, but they do so. They do disproportionately occupy and get their news from the digital spaces where this kind of aestheticization spreads fastest.

[Joe Getty]

This ain't going away anytime soon.

[Jack]

No, no. Social media are breaking down basic norms of restraint, particularly among women. That breakdown is showing up in groups once closely associated with more caution and care. We must stop rewarding moral outrage, especially when it means support for violence.

[Joe Getty]

The best example I have in my own life is the intense anger. I'd say it's 2/3 women, 1 third effeminate men. About my cybertruck just unhinged again. Eyes bulging, anger at my driving a cybertruck, which is crazy to me.

[Jack]

Militization, moral certainty, desire to punish.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Can you imagine working up any emotion at all over what somebody drove? Unless they ran you over with it.

[Jack]

Well, and if there was some sort of am 100% a progressive car, I might roll my eyes and think, what a fool. But that would be the extent of my emotional rise.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's wild.

[Jack]

It is wild. And it's crazy unhealthy. Where does it end? I really don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of militant anger, Megyn Kelly very angry about the Bad Bunny halftime show.

[Jack]

Oh, no.

[Joe Getty]

She went on a rant with Piers Morgan yesterday. Maybe we'll play a little of that. We'll finish strong.

[Armstrong]

Next Armstrong and get.

[Joe Getty]

So there's been a lot of right wingers losing their minds over the halftime show. I just like to make it clear for the record, my heart rate never increased one beat per minute over this at any point. I mean, it's, it's, it's such a minor thing in my day or life. I just thought, wow, you're not even gonna try to bring me along for the ride on this at all? What the hell?

[Jack]

Received. Yep.

[Joe Getty]

45 minute halftime show, and you make no effort whatsoever to include people who only speak English. What the hell? Screw you. But, you know, not a major topic. Anywho, Megyn Kelly got pretty fired up with Piers Morgan. This is how it went. Okay, what is the national language, officially the national language of the United States of America?

[Armstrong]

I mean, English. And there's been a push for many, many years to make it an official. You don't have one documented thing.

[Joe Getty]

You don't have one.

[Armstrong]

If you would have let me finish the comment, I would have pointed that out to make it official.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, so you're trying to make official.

[Armstrong]

This attitude that you in Great Britain have lost your culture, you ceded your culture to a bunch of radical Muslims who came in and took over, and now it's gone. We're not allowing that here. Whether it's Hispanic, whether it's Muslim, it's not happening in the United States of America. That's why President Trump was elected. And whether it's Bad Bunny who is American but refuses to speak English in his performances or anybody else, we have to keep the super bowl, which is a quintessential American event.

[Jack]

Football.

[Armstrong]

That kind of football is ours. They call it American football. And the halftime show and everything around it needs to stay quintessentially American. Not Spanish, not Muslim, not anything other than good old fashioned American apple pie. There should be a meatloaf, maybe some fried chicken, and an English speaking performer. That's what the super bowl should be here.

[Joe Getty]

Meatloaf. I've never been to a Super bowl party that had meatloaf But I'll tell you what, if I went to one and they did have meatloaf, I would welcome that with open mouth slab. I would welcome it with open mouth and fork.

[Jack]

You know, that stuff she said about Britain losing its culture is absolutely correct and strict verboten to say until, you know, fairly recently, where I don't understand.

[Joe Getty]

The argument for having a halftime show that doesn't even tip its cap toward English speaking Americans. Why is that so cool? Why is that good? Why is that a step in any good direction?

[Jack]

It doesn't make any sense except emotional sense if you're predisposed to hating the mainstream and wanting to show how enlightened you are.

[Joe Getty]

And again, my heart rate didn't go up one beat per minute and still hasn't over it. But it just, it rose a little.

[Jack]

When she mentioned meatloaf. Be honest.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's true. I was picturing my mom's meatloaf. My brothers and I were talking about this last time we were around. My mom never had meatloaf as good as my mom's. Need to figure out how she did that.

[Jack]

I got a lot to say, but it's time, dammit. About a number of topics. Check your clock. It's time to stop Jack and Joe. They've gotta go. And if they don't, you can. They'll be back tomorrow.

[Joe Getty]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show. There he is, pressing the buttons. Michelangelo, Michael, lead us off, would you? You know, now I'm thinking Super bowl food. I'm thinking cheese dip with a little pieces of meatloaf put into the batter. Oh, oh, you're not wrong. Katie Greens got the hungries all of a sudden. And the final thought, Katie, also involves food.

[Katie]

It's a happy birthday to Joe and I hope you eat a big piece of key lime pie tonight.

[Jack]

I may. We're actually going out for German food. I'm going to have some wiener schnitzel.

[Joe Getty]

That is good.

[Jack]

Jack, a final thought for us.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. My final thought. Don't let your wrist watch, don't let your hot dog stand and don't let your meatloaf.

[Jack]

That's beautiful. My final thought, to quote once again, Colin Wright, who I was quoting from that article about women. Political disagreement is increasingly treated as a single serious moral offense rather than a simple difference of opinion. That's pretty good sentence there. What's the matter with you?

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack]

And when you see the world that way, punishing someone for holding different views becomes a moral good. Except that it ain't and yalls crazy. So many people thanks. So little time. Go to armstrong and getty.com for the hot links to drop us a note mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com what do you think about all this stuff? Pick up some ang swag like the hot dogs Our dogs T shirt or the Ruin the entire country Newsome 2028 t shirt.

[Joe Getty]

And I had a dream with Gavin Newsom in it last night.

[Jack]

A sexy, sexy dream.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think so. Pretty sure not. I hope not. Or maybe I hope so.

[Jack]

I don't know. I have to think about this. Certainly curious. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

And Snoop Dogg was in it too, so I don't know what role Snoop Dogg played.

[Jack]

Laid Back Roll.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly.

[Jack]

Happy birthday Joe. I forgot to tell you. Thanks M Dog. I'll do my best.

[Joe Getty]

We'll see you tomorrow. God bless America. What's your name? Tell us your name. Armstrong and Getty. I think it takes two to tango. Match made in heaven. I think you're star spangled. Also good.

[Jack]

Repeat the line.

[Joe Getty]

So good.

[Jack]

Let's go with a bang. And according to J.D. power, drivers are underwhelmed by gesture controls where one can say, increase the volume by rotating an imaginary knob in the air.

[Joe Getty]

You're an imaginary knob. Wow.

[Jack]

On that high note. Bye bye Armstrong and Getty.

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