Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Episode: Is It "Butt Naked" Or "Buck Naked?"
Date: November 4, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Network: iHeartPodcasts
Overview
This episode features Armstrong and Getty's distinctive mix of irreverent social commentary, focused on a wide range of topics including the death of former Vice President Dick Cheney, media coverage of health studies, Elon Musk’s rise toward “trillionaire” status, celebrity news, and current debates about gender identity. The hosts dish out their characteristic skepticism, wit, and blunt opinions, punctuated by quick detours into popular culture, sports, and the peculiarities of modern discourse.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Dick Cheney’s Death and Legacy
(00:17 – 12:26)
- Announcement & Summary: Cheney, former Vice President and Secretary of Defense, passed away at age 84 due to complications of pneumonia and cardiac disease.
- Career Recap: Discussion of Cheney’s storied political resume—Secretary of Defense, White House Chief of Staff, Minority Whip, and “arguably the most powerful Vice President in history.”
- Bush/Cheney Dynamic & ‘Gravitas’: Bush’s VP pick was seen as providing “seriousness and heft” to the ticket, with the term “gravitas” emphasized as key to the 2000 campaign.
- Cheney Health and Longevity:
- Quote (03:17, Joe Getty): “Back to Cheney’s faulty ticker. The fact that he made it to 84 gives all of us hope. I think he suffered the first of five heart attacks at age 37...”
- The Iraq War Decision-Making:
- Controversy about Cheney’s motivations, intelligence failures, and the continuing debate over the Iraq invasion.
- Quote (07:05, Jack Armstrong): "For instance, Tim, and I don't know how much I can share here, but we have a bearded gentleman strapped to a bed with his bare feet in a pan of water attached to a couple of wires in a car battery right now."
- Several Cheney audio clips, including his framing of U.S. actions post-9/11:
- Dick Cheney (06:10): "We also have to work though sort of the dark side, if you will. We're going to spend time in the shadows and in the intelligence world, a lot of what needs to be done here will have to be done quietly, without any discussion..."
- WMDs & Iraq War Regret:
- Cheney’s infamous 2002 statement about “no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction” is played and critiqued.
- Jack Armstrong (09:19): “Oops.”
- Ongoing question: Was the removal of Saddam worth the cost?
2. Critique of Media Coverage: Health News and Melatonin Study
(13:50 – 15:14)
- Melatonin and Heart Failure Story: Hosts analyze a recent study, expressing frustration at misleading headlines that imply melatonin, rather than insomnia, causes health issues.
- Quote (14:26, Jack Armstrong): "God, I hate reporting. ...They do not try to tell you what's actually going on."
- Armstrong and Getty critique clickbait journalism and plead for more thoughtful science coverage.
3. Elon Musk’s Potential Trillionaire Status
(15:14 – 17:59)
- Tesla shareholders are preparing to vote on a $1 trillion package for Musk.
- Discussion of Musk’s desire for influence over his companies' robotic and AI future.
- Jack Armstrong (17:15): “Because I like this about Elon, that would have very little effect on what he wants to do with his life. Unlike Bezos, who wants to have the biggest boat in the world…”
4. Diane Ladd’s Life Project
(17:59 – 19:15)
- Actress Diane Ladd’s lifelong, unsuccessful quest to fund a Martha Mitchell biopic.
- Jack finds the story fascinating for her sense of mission, including her claim to be visited by Mitchell’s ghost.
5. Transgender Debates & ‘Gender Bending Madness’ Segment
(20:22 – 32:55, recurring theme)
- Gold’s Gym Locker Room Incident: A woman is booted from her gym after complaining about a biological man in the women’s locker room.
- Caller (23:19): "Grown man with big ___ in the women’s locker room. And that's why I'm getting kicked out. And I want to make sure the girls know."
- Hosts express incredulity at institutional responses and the broader social climate.
- Language Debate – 'Butt Naked' vs. 'Buck Naked':
- Jack Armstrong (24:43): “Bringing up the also controversy of is it butt naked or buck naked? Always difficult to know.”
- Drag Pedagogy in Schools:
- Discussion of academic arguments for “drag pedagogy” and related social theories in schools, which the hosts firmly oppose.
- Joe Getty (26:53): "They want to expose kindergarteners to drag shows. They’re arguing that Adult men dressed in women’s clothing should be invited into your 5 year old’s classroom to perform sexually suggestive dance routines in front of them."
- Social Contagion & Gender Dysphoria:
- Citing Colin Wright, hosts discuss the spread of transgender identification among adolescent girls as a “social contagion.”
- Joe Getty (30:30) reads Wright’s Wall Street Journal piece, emphasizing the suppression of dissenting academic views.
- Transgender Athletes in Women's Sports:
- Debate over inclusion of trans athletes, spotlighting a National Women’s Soccer League controversy.
- Sarah Gordon (31:07): “... that article does not speak for this team in this locker room. ... they are hurt and they are harmed by the article and also ... disgusted ... the undertones come across as transphobic and racist...”
- Hosts denounce woke responses and question policy logic:
- Joe Getty (31:53): "She is a soft head. She has no idea what she's talking about. She is a woke cultist who doesn't have the power of critical thinking. ... if enough of those cultists ... howl for your blood, you will ... see your career derailed..."
6. Cultural Musings: Hierarchies of Grievance
(33:00 – 33:34)
- The “grievance totem pole” is debated, as the hosts notice a black lesbian woman’s complaint is overruled in favor of transgender inclusion.
- Jack Armstrong (33:20): "I'm looking up at TV and they've got that woman from the Gold's Gym. She's a black woman. Normally a black woman is going to win any battle over any other group, but in this case she was up against a trans person."
- Joe Getty (33:25): "Even a black lesbian woman ... below on the totem pole ... a transgender dude."
7. Sports Culture: Dodgers Win and LA Rioting
(36:02 – 37:16)
- The Dodgers win prompts predictable “celebratory” rioting in LA.
- Jon Stewart Clip (36:23): “Great news for America this weekend. We finally defeated our worst enemy, Canada.”
- Hosts lament normalization of public destruction, comparing to how consequences could deter such behavior.
8. Violent Crime & Immigration Talking Point
(37:16 – 38:40)
- A bizarre headline about a decapitation by an illegal immigrant leads to dark humor and reflection on crime and policy.
9. Nick Fuentes-Tucker Carlson Controversy
(40:16 – 40:32)
- Hosts reflect on the Nick Fuentes/Tucker Carlson flap, media amplification of fringe voices, and the disconnection between online and offline realities.
- Jack Armstrong (39:14): "My parents are very maga. I don't know if they've ever heard the name Nick Fuentes. I'll bet they haven't. But that doesn't mean anything either."
- Questions around at what point extremist followings online require national attention.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On Dick Cheney’s Age:
- “Back to Cheney’s faulty ticker. The fact that he made it to 84 gives all of us hope.”
(03:17, Joe Getty)
- “Back to Cheney’s faulty ticker. The fact that he made it to 84 gives all of us hope.”
- On Torture & War on Terror:
- "We're going to spend time in the shadows and in the intelligence world, a lot of what needs to be done here will have to be done quietly, without any discussion..."
(06:10, Dick Cheney Clip)
- "We're going to spend time in the shadows and in the intelligence world, a lot of what needs to be done here will have to be done quietly, without any discussion..."
- On Locker Room Incident:
- “I'm butt naked. I feel violated. I feel like, weird, like I don't want to deal with this. Right. Listen, how can you say you're a woman or you want to be a woman and you don't care how women feel?”
(24:19, Gold’s Gym Caller)
- “I'm butt naked. I feel violated. I feel like, weird, like I don't want to deal with this. Right. Listen, how can you say you're a woman or you want to be a woman and you don't care how women feel?”
- On “Butt Naked” vs. “Buck Naked”:
- "Bringing up the also controversy of is it butt naked or buck naked? Always difficult to know."
(24:43, Jack Armstrong)
- "Bringing up the also controversy of is it butt naked or buck naked? Always difficult to know."
- On Musk and Extreme Wealth:
- “You're beyond yachts. You're past buying an island and you're into like, I'm buying the Hawaiian islands, Right?”
(17:52, Joe Getty)
- “You're beyond yachts. You're past buying an island and you're into like, I'm buying the Hawaiian islands, Right?”
- On ‘Drag Pedagogy’ in Schools:
- “Why are we having grown men dance suggestively in front of little children in girls clothing? Well, at school.”
(26:48, Joe Getty)
- “Why are we having grown men dance suggestively in front of little children in girls clothing? Well, at school.”
- On ‘Grievance Hierarchy’:
- “I'm looking up at TV and they've got that woman from the Gold's Gym. She's a black woman. Normally a black woman is going to win any battle over any other group, but in this case she was up against a trans person.”
(33:20, Jack Armstrong)
- “I'm looking up at TV and they've got that woman from the Gold's Gym. She's a black woman. Normally a black woman is going to win any battle over any other group, but in this case she was up against a trans person.”
- On Breaking News & Social Media:
- “In the world of the online. It's a very big story and people are commenting back and forth like crazy. But that might just be like the online world.”
(39:15, Jack Armstrong)
- “In the world of the online. It's a very big story and people are commenting back and forth like crazy. But that might just be like the online world.”
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Cheney Retrospective & Clips: 01:17 – 12:26
- Melatonin Health Study Critique: 13:50 – 15:14
- Elon Musk Discussion: 15:14 – 17:59
- Diane Ladd Project & Death: 17:59 – 19:15
- Transgender Locker Room Incident: 21:01 – 24:36
- 'Butt Naked' vs. 'Buck Naked': 24:43 – 24:55
- Drag in Schools & Social Contagion: 25:53 – 31:48
- Women’s Soccer & Trans Athletes Debate: 31:07 – 32:55
- LA Riots, Dodgers Win: 36:02 – 37:16
- Nick Fuentes Commentary: 39:14 – 40:32
Conclusion & Tone
The episode is lively, skeptical, and humorous, with Armstrong and Getty’s signature blend of cultural critique and off-the-cuff banter. They challenge mainstream narratives, question prevailing social trends, and entertain through both biting sarcasm and genuine inquiry, making the podcast a provocative listen for their audience.
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