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Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
But apparently our nation's civil service is now synonymous with waste, fraud and abuse.
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Jack Armstrong
The gravy train for a lot of these folks. It's been on biscuit wheels and it's about to run off the dadgum tracks. And it's about time.
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Joe Getty
First of all, there is no way you actually talk like that. No way. You're a congressman from Tennessee. You didn't spring fully formed out of a primordial cracker barrel. Oh, this hell bureaucracy is a Chattanooga choo choo choo crawfish boil on the flapjacks.
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Jack Armstrong
Very funny. From the Eastern media elite. Media elite. Michael, Very, very well chosen. We'll have to. We'll have a chat after the show. I know plenty of people who talk like that.
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Joe Getty
I do, too. But we need to take it down a little on the right with the. The clever sayings. Just too many of them, I feel.
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Jack Armstrong
Yes, John Kennedy, we're looking at you.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, exactly. They' realized if you want to get on tv, get a little blurb on Fox News or whatever, you have some clever little homespun saying, and that'll get you on.
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Jack Armstrong
May I apologize to the audience for lying. I said that Congressman Tom McClintock would kick off this hour of the program. Indeed. We will visit with him at the bottom of the hour, but are looking forward to it very much. I just read his editorial, Washington Times. Great stuff.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, Yeah. I look forward to asking him about this stuff. Part of the problem with framing Doge and all this is, was fraud and abuse is that it misses the point that even if it's all legitimate, we can't afford it, so.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah, well said.
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Joe Getty
I mean, you. If you. I've been here before when I. When I was broke. Sometimes you look at like, where can you cut? And you think, I need all of these things I'm spending money on. But you still don't have as much money coming in as going out. And something has got to go.
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Jack Armstrong
Right. Right. Indeed. It might be helpful to say waste, fraud, abuse and overreach.
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Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Tom McClintock
Or.
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Joe Getty
Or at some point, in some point soon it's going to be, which of these things that we like and need do we like and need the least? Because the rubber is going to meet the road at some point anyway, before.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah, like has got to go in favor of need because like is spending us into oblivion. Back to you.
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Joe Getty
Starbucks announced their Coffee chain is laying off 1100 jobs. 7% of its non retail staff. Is there gonna be a big media scramble to get to Starbucks employees and have them on there?
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Jack Armstrong
I thought I'd get to work at Starbucks forever.
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Joe Getty
I just moved here for this job. I was working really hard because that would. I'm sure plenty of them would say that, but they lost their jobs because here in the private sector that happens all the flipping time.
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Jack Armstrong
Right.
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Joe Getty
Another economic thing that I thought was interesting that I will explain why I think it is a big deal in a second. Apple said it's gonna invest half a trillion dollars in the United States over the next four years. So a half a trillion over four years and open a new factory in Houston to build AI servers. I gotta wonder if maybe they had. They wouldn't have built that in China or something if this were 20 years ago.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh yeah, 100%.
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Joe Getty
And now it's going to be built in the United States for, you know, all the reasons that you know. But at the same time, Brit Hume tweeted this out and thought this was a big deal. Yuma Fox I follow him because I generally think he's right. The President just released a new policy that does some big things. The. It's an economic policy. It makes it easier for friendly nations to invest in the United States. It makes it harder for hostile nations to invest in the United States and it makes it harder for hostile nations to steal American technology. Those are all big things that are definitely welcome.
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Jack Armstrong
I would like to see. And this is an. An issue nobody talks about. I would like to see China booted the hell out of our housing markets.
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Joe Getty
Oh my God, yes. Oh my God, yes.
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Jack Armstrong
In my conglomerates buying up like every house for sale they can renting them and it becomes impossible to get a house.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. In. In my town. Absolutely. That what goes on. When I was trying to buy a house. I'm a renter. When I was trying to buy a house and. And all these houses that seem ridiculously overpriced were selling. That's what real estate agents told me. No, the Chinese. The Chinese, various entities and businessmen are buying up. They're paying cash and they don't care what they cost. And yeah, that is a distortion and.
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Jack Armstrong
I butt head sometimes with my libertarian brethren on this topic because foreign investment in. In the United States is one of the reasons we all have such a great standard of living. And that's absolutely true. But a is limited and incredibly necessary is housing which is then limited so severely by government policy, zoning and environmental stuff. And whatever, that just causes a distortion that beats down American families, American workers. And it reminds me of what we were talking about last hour where David Leonhardt, a fairly moderate guy at the New York Times is writing, hey, all these left wing governments from the US to France to Germany to Canada to Australia when they're working class was saying, hey, this rampant immigration is hurting us badly. They were told shut up by their left leaning governments and now it's coming home to coming back to bite them. I think the housing thing is similar. People are screaming for relief and we've got our communist overlords snapping up houses. It can't last.
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Joe Getty
Well, last week we were talking about Senator Tom Cotton's new book, 7 things you can't say about China. And we hope to talk to him soon. One of them, I don't know if he mentions the housing market at all in the book. We'll have to ask him about that because that's interesting. But one of them is how China sending their bright young people over here to attend our colleges at full freight and eating up all the slots in the colleges and distorting the price of college because they don't care what it costs. They just want to send their students over here to get the best engineering degrees, invest this and that. And also occasionally a spy distorted the whole college market.
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Jack Armstrong
Always a spy. Had this headline sitting around, hadn't gotten to it yet. Under Biden, American universities raked in nearly a billion dollars from offshore donors, including many linked to China. Yeah, China and Qatar and all sorts of loathsome regimes have utterly perverted the curricula of American universities. Again we, we fell so in love with the whole global thing, we forgot that not everybody's nice like we are. It's funny. The great Satan, the big belligerent America. No, we're like the nicest people on earth. We think everybody wants to be our friend. We're the proverbial, if somewhat insulting, naive corn pone from Iowa buying fake Rolexes in Manhattan because we don't know better as a country, which is really crazy. As a superpower, it's almost endearing, but the evildoers are starting to really exploit it and it's time to get tough.
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Joe Getty
I bought a fake Rolex. I knew it was a fake Rolex in Times Square in, in New York once and it was quite cheap. It did not work and felt very flimsy. My son has a great fake Rolex that he bought on Amazon for $70. So it wasn't like super cheap. It is great, really heavy Good metal runs.
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Jack Armstrong
Wow.
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Joe Getty
Looks real.
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Jack Armstrong
Is your son a rapper?
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Joe Getty
He gets, he gets compliments on it all the time.
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Jack Armstrong
It's just a look though. A teenage boy with a Rolex. It's a little odd, but you know, teach their own. So speaking of economic matters, and then we'll take a break because we got something just great to get to. Two years ago, you might remember Teamsters boss Sean O'Brien. You remember him, Spoke at the Republican convention and said I hate Republic. He touted a historic labor agreement with ups United Parcel Service. Now comes the rest of the story, and it's not pretty. UPS shares are plunged recently after it announced workforce and delivery reductions. Workers who lost their jobs can thank Mr. O'Brien once again interview the UPS people that lost their jobs. I thought I could work here forever.
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Joe Getty
I just moved here for this job.
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Jack Armstrong
Like the government employees, UPS is having to shrink, shrink its contracts. Just do less work and make less money and less profit because. And Amazon, one of the big clients, is now going to do more of their own deliveries because UPS can't do it at a cost anywhere near Amazon can because Amazon's drivers aren't unionized. The Teamsters, according to the Journal Auditorial Board have found little success trying to organize Amazon workers. The UPS agreement increased average compensation for full time drivers over five years to $170,000,000 a year. Teamsters at UPS get up to seven weeks of vacation and don't pay health care premiums.
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Joe Getty
Yes, I was a Teamster. It was the most amazing health care I ever had in my entire working life. It was insane. But it's actually, you shouldn't have healthcare this good. As a guy who stacks boxes for a living. I mean, it's just, it doesn't really make sense. I loved it, of course, but it was pretty ridiculous given US standards.
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Jack Armstrong
So UPS is firing thousands of workers and management closing 200 sorting centers. You know, unions have the role and certainly have in history, but a union like this one, in this case, all it does is concentrate wealth in the hands of its members and leaders. It has nothing to do with working. We're for working people. We're for labor. No, you're for yourself and your members, which is fine, but society and UPS need to recognize that and counter it. It's just hundreds and thousands and thousands of workers are losing their jobs so that the chosen few can get artificially high salaries. Oh, that's just lovely. The Trump versus the AP fight is way more important than you might think. It's not over the Gulf of America well, it kind of is, which is funny, but it's about something much more interesting and important. We'll talk about that in a second.
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Joe Getty
When I was a teamster at UPS, the insurance was I had 100 coverage on medical, no deductible, 100 dental, no deductible and no do and no payments. I should have gotten all my teeth pulled and had several babies. I just, yes. Should have taken advantage of it.
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Jack Armstrong
You're a fool.
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Joe Getty
We got all that stuff Joe mentioned and we're going to talk to a Republican congressman, Tom McClintock, coming up this.
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Jack Armstrong
Hour, Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
I look forward to talking to Tom McClintock as a fiscal conservative and a member of the House of Representatives. A Republican, where he is on the whole Doge thing.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Oh, yeah, I have a feeling. I know. Since he's been a fiscal hawk since he was knee high to a grasshopper. Oh, that's right. We're not going to be charmingly homespun anymore. There's too much of that in our nation's discourse. So one of my many jihads is against conservatives and even moderates who for some reason conform to the language demands of the left. They say, don't say this, that anymore, say this, and we obey them, even though that change in language is deliberately designed to pervert the argument or to win the argument in advance, like gender affirming care. That settles the argument. Well, all you're doing is affirming the poor child's gender. No, it's a sex change experiment anyway. Trump and the administration are in a bit of a fracas, a bit of a sparring match with the Associated Press. You may have read about it, the particulars of their banned from the press room, temporarily, whatever. The Gulf of America thing. That's all a distraction because the main issue is the AP and its style book, which if you're not in journalism, you might not realize is incredibly influential and has been for decades. It essentially says, all right, here's how to word something. Here's what words are acceptable, unacceptable. Here's the punctuation you should use from the very mundane to now. And this is a new development in the last, you know, several years now it's become extremely ideological. For instance, and we mentioned this late in the show yesterday, AP began capitalizing black when used as a racial designation, but not white because no, no, black is special. White is just, well, you are white people and you're bad people. There are a bunch of other examples. You can't use Alien. It's banned or illegal immigrant in discussing immigration, even though those are both statutory, you know, terms. You can't say chain migration, anchor babies. And they have all sorts of euphemism. Like when CNN infamously described the George Floyd riots as a mostly peaceful protest. That was partly in deference to the the AP saying don't use riot. Oh, wow. Yeah. And then there is its 2900 word ideological manifesto that says, quote, do not use the term transgenderism, which frames transgender identity as an ideology. It is filled with bizarre assertions and jargon which reporters are mandated to accept as if they supersede the facts of life. According to the guide, a child isn't born a boy or a girl. Quote, rather, sex is, quote, usually assigned at birth by parents or attendants and can turn out to be inaccurate, which happens 1 out of 10,000 times. Examples of gender identities include non binary bigender, agender, gender fluid, genderqueer, and combinations of identities such as non binary woman. This is all radical gender theory, which nobody knew about, cared about, or thought about and certainly didn't believe until a cup of coffee ago. And they say that dead naming a transgender person, that is accurately reporting such a person's given name, even posthumously in obituaries or other coverage, is often considered disrespectful to the deceased, their survivors, and any transgender people. So if you work for the ap, you'd have to say, Caitlyn Jenner won the decathlon in 1976, for example.
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Joe Getty
Hey, I got a question. Has anybody encountered like, you're going to have a baby and you, you have the doctor, you know, tell if it's a boy or girl. Do they like fudge their language? Do they just say, we see a penis or something like that to not declare it a boy? I wonder if they do that.
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Jack Armstrong
And there's more about how reporters are instructed to squelch any challenge to the accepted authorities on sex and gender. Don't quote people speaking about biology or athletic regulations unless they are experts with the proper background. Which is why Katanji Brown Jackson infamously said, I can't define woman. I'm not a biologist, which is one of the most idiotic things ever said. But then I came across a bunch of other examples. The AP once referred to former Vice President Kamala Harris, one of the most liberal senators to serve in the senate in the 21st century. As a centrist, the AP style book is a widely used manual guiding editorial decisions for thousands of newsrooms. It says, use the term anti abortion, not pro life.
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Joe Getty
Oh, wow.
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Jack Armstrong
But use the term abortion rights for those who are in favor of abortion. So pro lifers are stuck with the anti tag. Pro abortion goes with rights. Cute. There was an AP memo in 2021 instructing all reporters staffers not to refer to the border crisis as a crisis. That's under Biden, remember? And I could go into the numbers of border crossers, but it's astounding. A few years before, a memo went out when Donald Trump was president and said few would argue that a humanitarian crisis is unfolding. And again, they are. Well, go ahead.
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Joe Getty
The point being that this battle between Trump's White House and AP is not just about Gulf of Mexico.
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Jack Armstrong
It's all this other stuff and using the term pregnant people instead of women, for instance. Congressman Tom McClintock next. Going to talk Doge Armstrong and Getty. Lots of confusion here. We should point out that Elon Musk is not an elected official, not Senate confirmed to run any agency, and is asking employees to report outside of their chain of command. And that is what these unions are saying is essentially illegal. And now these unions are suing and we learned about them amending an existing lawsuit. That hearing for that lawsuit against this email sent by Elon Musk is set for a hearing this Thursday.
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Joe Getty
Hilarious that the mainstream media is so concerned with the flow of power and who has the right to do what when it's cutting government jobs or it's the Trump administration versus Joe Biden doing all kinds of crap that he wasn't supposed to be able to do.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, speak for yourself. I for one, am heartbroken at the whole reporting outside the chain of command thing. It's terrible to discuss this and the activities of the Doge fellows and more. Please welcome to the Show Congressman Tom McClintock of the 5th district of California. If you don't know Tom, he's often described as the gold standard for fiscal conservatism in Congress. Tom, always a pleasure. How are you?
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Tom McClintock
It's my pleasure. Thanks for having me back.
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Joe Getty
We're wondering where you are on the whole Doge thing. And Elon telling federal workers they gotta justify their job with five things they did last week. And all of the hubbub, well, it's.
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Tom McClintock
A pretty simple situation. A new boss takes over. He brings in an auditor, the auditor calls in the staff and says, folks, I'd like to see your expense account receipts. And the staff absolutely freaks out. Well, what does that tell you about what's been going on all that time and this discussion about, well, Musk is an unelected official. Well, I've got News for these people. The only elected official in the entire executive branch of our government is the President. All of the executive authority is vested in the President. Not some of it, all of it. So under the Constitution, there's no executive authority that's independent of the President. Musk is acting under the President's direction, as is every one of the some 2 million employees in the executive branch.
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Jack Armstrong
Not only that, but as you know, regulation and agency overreach is a big part of the effort. And I don't think most Americans fully appreciate. Not only do we have a fourth branch of government, the bureaucracy, it's. It's not in last place in terms of power. It's really important day to day.
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Tom McClintock
It actually now passes 10 times the number of laws that the Congress passes. And not coincidentally, you have about 10 times a greater chance of being hauled before an administrative law court than an actual Article 3 court that respects all of your rights. This is entirely contrary to the entire central architecture of the Constitution, the entire vision of the American founders, which was to separate the three functions of government into three quite separate branches. We all learned that in grade school, but it seems more and more of us have forgotten it as the debate goes on.
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Joe Getty
I'm going to, I'm going to throw you the all time fat softball to a guy like you.
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Jack Armstrong
Is the government too big?
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Tom McClintock
Well, yes. The only thing that's keeping us afloat right now is the fact that there are still capital markets willing to lend us money. But the fact is, every dime of our discretionary spending, that's the entire government, including the Defense Department, every dime of that is now borrowed. The interest on our $37 trillion of debt. Just paying interest on what we've already spent now costs us more than the entire defense establishment. You know, it was what, about 12 or 13 years ago now that Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, warned that in his professional military judgment, the greatest threat to our nation was the national debt. And that's when the national debt was about half, in fact, less than half of what it is right now.
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Jack Armstrong
Would you agree that if we cannot successfully communicate that to the American people before the disaster strikes, it's time to abandon democracy and try monarchy again. Because, I mean, it's not like we've stepped in front of a bus or we're heading toward a cliff. We're heading toward the biggest cliff in the world. There are giant signs that say cliff ahead. Stop running. It would just. My head will explode. If we can't get our heads wrapped around this or do something about it.
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Tom McClintock
Yeah, that was what the election was all about. I mean, there were two central questions, both of which are these warnings that history is shouting at us. Countries that cannot defend their borders aren't around very long. And countries that bankrupt themselves aren't around very long because before you can provide for the common defense or provide for the general welfare, you have to be able to pay for it. And you can't pay for it if you are running up a debt so huge that it threatens your ability to continue. And that's where we are.
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Joe Getty
How do we get entitlements back on the table? As a conversation though, since both the last two presidents, Trump and Biden have said they're off the table?
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Tom McClintock
Well, I mean the first and obvious thing to do is to restore the Clinton era work requirement in all entitlement programs. We forget that was Bill Clinton. Remember he said we were going to end welfare as we knew it. And he did. He installed a very strong requirement that able bodied people have got to be looking for a job and accept one of ones offered as a condition of receiving all federal welfare grants. And you know what happened? We saw about a 50% reduction in welfare rolls because people went back to work. And by the way, we saw their lives improve dramatically because they were now earning productively in the private sector. We saw our tax revenues go up and the economy took off like a bat out of hell. So I mean, that's the first and obvious thing to do is restore that work requirement that was lost the Obama years, get that back in place. That's not a new law, that's an old law. We'd simply be bringing back an old law that worked. And that would mean enormous. Just in Medicaid alone, it's estimated that would save about $109 billion a year.
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Jack Armstrong
And as we've said many times in discussing this stuff, you'll hear somebody occasionally say, well, this is just clipping around the edges what Elon and the Doge boys are doing in the 100 million here and 20 million there. I mean, that's just a tiny percentage of the federal budget. But we think a culture of accountability and thrift is the big kahuna. And I just wish we could get that going among the American people.
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Tom McClintock
Yeah, well that's that old Everett Dirksen line. A million dollars here and a million dollars there. And pretty soon you're talking about a lot of money. Well, now we're counting it in billions and now occasionally trillions. You know, think about it this way. Every billion dollars that we spend in Washington. That's $8 from your family's budget. So a trillion dollars. That's $8,000 from your family's budget. And you pay for it one way or another. You either pay for it through direct taxes, you pay through it through the deficit, which is future taxes and interest on that borrowing, or you pay for it through inflation. And we just came through the worst inflation in 40 years, paying for the Inflation Reduction Act.
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Jack Armstrong
Doge is up against the 5th District, California on the line. Go ahead, Jack.
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Joe Getty
Doge is up against, obviously just an entrenched everything, lifestyle, attitude, offices and people, and in some cases protection of the bureaucracy in so many ways around them. How optimistic or pessimistic are you about Doge actually getting anything accomplished?
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Tom McClintock
I think it's already accomplished quite a lot. They say that the most closely guarded secrets of the government are not those that are labeled top secret. They're those that are labeled embarrassing. And Musk has already succeeded in embarrassing the political establishment. And that goes a long way to engaging the American people. You mentioned American democracy. Well, it works. That was one of the key issues that decided this election. And now we have an elected president who is fulfilling his commitment to bring spending back under control before it crushes American families.
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Jack Armstrong
Something I've been howling for years, and I think California may be lost, at least temporary, temporarily on this score is that if government itself and government workers become an important enough lobbyist of government, we the people are doomed. Because it's just. It's a perpetual motion machine of self interest. How close to that are we in the federal government? Can we the people overcome the bureaucratic class?
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Tom McClintock
Well, I do worry about that because of, you know, you hear the left talk about the importance of our, you know, independent agencies. Well, that begs the question, independent of whom? Well, what they mean is independent of the President, which means independent of the people. Well, that's the very definition of tyranny. I think one of the real threat to democracy is an unelected bureaucracy that acts on its own whims, irrespective of how people vote. You know, the Democrats are telling us it's undemocratic for a democratically elected president to question how the unelected bureaucracy is executing the laws. Well, those are laws the president selected to uphold. How can he faithfully execute those laws if he and his deputies can't clearly and accurately see where the public money's going, verify that it's being spent in accordance with law, and put a stop to it when it's not? And that's what this fight is really all about. It's about whether or not the executive branch of government is responsive to the people or has taken on a life of its own.
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Jack Armstrong
What's the next big move we can expect to see from Doge or the president?
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Tom McClintock
Well, the budget resolutions on the House floor today that's going to set a framework to reduce federal spending by about $2 trillion over the next decade and stop the massive tax increase that will be going into effect if we don't act. That tax increase is going to cost a family earning $75,000 about $1,500 a year in added taxes. By reducing spending by that $2 trillion, that's going to rel family on average of about $16,000 of expenses over that decade. And that's just the beginning. So that has to be done in order to get the reconciliation process in place. That process will then enact the reforms that are necessary to bring that spending down. At the same time, Doge, we will be able to put into that reconciliation bill a great deal of the statutory changes that Doge needs to implement its recommendations.
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Joe Getty
I'm sure we'll have you back on in the midst of the tax battle because that's going to epic. I was not used to seeing the United States on the side of Russia and North Korea in a vote in the UN Yesterday. Where do you come down on that, on the United States not wanting to condemn Russia for invading Ukraine?
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Tom McClintock
You know, I still catching up with that, but you know, I will. I am willing to cut the president considerable slack right now as he tries to bring this war to an end. You know, I believe that Russia was the clear aggressor. I voted for the military aid to prevent Ukraine from being defeated by Russia because I thought it was so important to send that message around the world that you cannot succeed by this kind of wanton invasion. But a lot of that money disappeared without being spent for Ukraine's military defense. This has gone on way too long. And if the president can put a stop to this war and bring about a negotiated settlement, I'm willing to cut him quite a bit of slack right now.
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Jack Armstrong
Congressman Tom McClintock of the Fifth District, California, often described as the gold standard for fiscal conservatism in Congress. Tom, always great to talk. Keep fighting the good fight.
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Tom McClintock
Thanks, guys. Thanks for having me.
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Jack Armstrong
You got it.
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Joe Getty
His tendency is toward optimism. I don't know how optimistic I am toward Doge accomplishing that much.
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Jack Armstrong
It's worth the effort.
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Joe Getty
Oh, oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I. I'm not in the camp of this is a waste of time at all.
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Jack Armstrong
I don't think people have a serious concept of how close we are to a terrible, terrible crisis.
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Joe Getty
Ruin.
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty. When lunkhead Kamala Harris lost the election, proving that there is a God, we lost a truly unique voice on the American scene. Although she's like ahead of those totally stupid, meaningless polls about who the Democratic nominee ought to be next time around.
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Joe Getty
Plus she'll be governor of California soon enough, so.
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Jack Armstrong
Oy vey. Anyway. But haven't we missed her pearls of wisdom?
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Joe Getty
What goes through your mind when you see this? You're here. You're now seeing it up close.
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Jack Armstrong
It's not only seeing it, Alex, you can smell it. You can feel it, right? So it's seeing it with our eyes. And many people have seen it. You all are covering it. But to literally be on the ground here, you can smell the smoke that was here. You can feel the toxicity, frankly of the environment. You can feel the energy of all of the folks who are still here on the ground. She's not good at Kamala at the wildfires. Yes, I should have set that up.
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Joe Getty
Good at talking Nor thinking within.
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Jack Armstrong
Often the two go hand in hand.
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Joe Getty
So somehow I got on this list from the New York Times. I don't remember what it's called, but it's. They recommend products and I get their emails all the time and been a lot of really good stuff on there. And it's not always an expensive product like this one. It's often quite cheap. But it's like the. Every day I get one, it's like the best coffee cup or the best, I don't know, anything you can think of, the best ironing board or whatever. And they have their critics go through like, you know, they'll go through 500 different ironing boards and pick out the one they think is the best for the price and they'll have the best luxury. Wow.
- [33:07]
Jack Armstrong
Gratifying work if you can get it.
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Joe Getty
But I mean, just anything. It might be sink sponge. I mean just socks, pair of socks. I mean just anything you can think of. And sometimes I really like them. Anyway, they had one the other night for pillowcases and I've been really having trouble sleeping lately, so I got my attention. Whatever. But anyway, it's this silk pillowcase which I've never slept on silk before. Katie, are you a silk person?
- [33:29]
Tom McClintock
Yes.
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Joe Getty
Because it's supposed to be good for your hair, Jack. Well, it's supposed to be good for lots of things. It might be the ultimate snake oil of the modern world of these silk pillowcases. Listen to some of the verbiage around here. It's really hilarious. Clinically shown. And it's got an asterisk next to it.
- [33:46]
Jack Armstrong
Clinically shown down at the pillowcase clinic.
- [33:49]
Joe Getty
Yeah. To visibly improve the appearance of fine lines on your face. Skin hydration, skin texture and smoothness, skin radiance, luminosity or brightness. So I'm just wondering if any of you have noticed any increased luminosity out of me since I started using the silk. You're glowing.
- [34:09]
Jack Armstrong
I just wear sunglasses to do the show. Yeah, I know.
- [34:15]
Joe Getty
Are you pregnant? You're just glowing. Nope. I've been using this new silk pillowcase thingy. Over 90% of users agreed that they their skin felt more moisturized and hydrated after.
- [34:26]
Jack Armstrong
It also claims they didn't.
- [34:28]
Joe Getty
It also claims creates 43 less friction on average.
- [34:34]
Jack Armstrong
Oh, finally.
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Joe Getty
Oh, is that a thing you deal with with your pillowcases currently for the friction?
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Jack Armstrong
I just, I never really thought about it, but I wake up with blisters on my cheek. There's so much for sometimes bleeding. That's right.
- [34:46]
Joe Getty
Well, I particularly like that they were able to nail it down specifically to 43. Less friction, because that's a very specific number.
- [34:54]
Jack Armstrong
Boy, it's a real. It's a master class in how to bull s consumers.
- [34:59]
Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
Weirdly, specific numbers seem more credible.
- [35:04]
Joe Getty
Yeah, that is exactly right. Because you just have an automatic belief that, well, they, they wouldn't. If you said about 40, you could be making it up. If you say 43, clearly you did some science to come up with 43%. I like. They got the. A picture of this young woman. Two nights on a regular pillowcase. She looks all glum. Two nights on this slip silk pillowcase. She's all happy. You know what? And if you're wondering how big a sucker I am for snake oil, I did spend 100 on this one pillowcase.
- [35:38]
Jack Armstrong
100. What?
- [35:41]
Joe Getty
That's how desperate I am for decent sleep.
- [35:44]
Jack Armstrong
Jack.
- [35:44]
Joe Getty
There's this tiny little website called Amazon. You can usually find the same thing. This is from the website of the, of the stupid product. The New York Times, their actual, actual reporters said they really, really noticed a difference in their sleeping, and it was huge. And I mean, they're, they're not paid by the companies or anything for that. They stressed that. And I thought, well, man, if it made a difference the way I've been sleeping.
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Jack Armstrong
Coming up next hour, why is Trump kissing up to Russia? Does he have a bigger plan in mind? Stay with us, Armstrong, and get.