It Comes Down to Archers & Arrows

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: It Comes Down to Archers & Arrows
Date: March 6, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Guest: Mike Lyons (Military Analyst)

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Episode Overview

This episode blends humor, current events, military analysis, and pop culture. The main theme centers on escalating conflict in the Middle East, specifically U.S. engagement with Iran and its implications. Notably, military analyst Mike Lyons provides insight into the evolving war dynamics, focusing on missile defense, strategy, and the broader geopolitical impact. The show also covers lighter fare—celebrity legal troubles, fast-food virality, and NFL news—with the trademark Armstrong & Getty banter.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. International Headlines: Iran, Israel, and the Middle East (03:43–11:00, 27:18–38:29)

• Georgia "Lunchbox Mix-Up" and Levity
  Starts with a humorous story about a student accidentally taking an alcoholic drink to school, segueing rapidly into Middle East news.
• Iran’s Uncertain Future
  • Trump’s reported statement: “He’s not worried whether Iran becomes a Democratic state” (04:12).
  • Armstrong & Getty critique the Bush-era idea of "imposing democracy" on regions like Iran (04:12–05:07).
• Regional Escalation
  • Israeli airstrikes in Beirut, intensifying the conflict with Hezbollah (05:09).
  • Quibble over media language—Armstrong disputes the term “metastasizing” to describe regional conflict:
    “As a wordsmith, I'm quibbling with the word metastasizing because that implies…a random bad extension. And that's not what it is at all…We are defeating these monsters for good.” ([05:47] - Co-host)
• Iran’s Nuclear Capabilities (07:37–10:09)
  Discussion demystifies "breakout time" for Iran to build a bomb—explained with accessible metaphors referencing the Oppenheimer film.
  • “Iran has plenty of fissile material... at 60% concentration. Growing from 60 to 90 would take about two weeks... They don’t have a working bomb design.” ([07:37] - Co-host)
• Nuclear Weapons Know-How
  Armstrong and co-host underscore that designing a deliverable warhead is harder than making fissile material.
  • "Why don't they just go ahead and get to 90% now?" ... "There's 0 use for 90% concentration other than making nuclear bombs." ([10:09] - Co-host)
• War Strategy & Supply Concerns (27:18–29:28)
  • Armstrong asks about the likelihood the U.S., Israel, or Ukraine could run out of defensive weaponry.
  • Mike Lyons:
    “This comes down to, once again, archers and arrows... We’re going to take out all the archers before they launch them.” ([28:19] - Mike Lyons)

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2. Military Analysis with Mike Lyons (28:08–38:22)

• "Archers & Arrows": Offensive vs. Defensive Missile War
  Mike Lyons underscores a doctrinal pivot: focus on destroying enemy launchers ("archers") instead of continuously intercepting ("arrows").
  • “If we go after the archers... we're going to accomplish the same thing.” ([28:19] - Mike Lyons)
• Missile Defense Cost & Capacity
  • Modern U.S. missiles: $25–$30 million apiece.
• Technical Edge: Drones & Intelligence
  • Drones enable persistent surveillance and rapid strikes without risking pilot lives.
    “Reaper drones… can just sit up there and loiter for 12 hours at a time... the second they move, next thing you know, they've got Hellfire missiles raining down on them.” ([29:44] - Mike Lyons)
  • Co-host notes:
    "Iran's missile launches have dropped 86% in four days." ([30:31] - Co-host)
• Unique "Air War of Attrition"
  • Lyons:
    “The uniqueness of Iran trying to fight an air war of attrition. Never have seen that before... Frankly, they have no chance.” ([31:04], [31:11])
• Global Implications: Lessons for Russia and China
  • “China’s in trouble. We are totally threatening their energy security... There’s no way that they can invade Taiwan right now.” ([32:51] – Mike Lyons)
  • U.S. military prowess and global rapid deployment are highlighted as major strategic deterrents.
• Iranian Surrender—A Matter of “Finding Someone”
  • U.S. seeks an official, however minor, to formalize Iran's surrender—a nod to historical precedents. “The highest ranking official in Iran might be the assistant manager of a grocery store at this point. Who surrenders and who's with them?” ([36:10] – Co-host)

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3. The Kurdish Factor (37:13–38:29)

• Potential for Redrawn Boundaries
  Armstrong speculates:
  "This might be the time that they think it's now or never for us to carve out a chunk of land." ([37:13])
• Kurds’ Complicated Relationship with Allies
  Recollection of history of U.S. support and abandonment; first lady of Iraq (a Kurd) offers a pointed letter reminding the West of past betrayals.

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4. Pop Culture & Legal Rights: Britney Spears & Justin Timberlake DUIs (11:00–23:55)

• Celebrity Legal Troubles
  • Britney Spears' latest DUI and ongoing struggles receive sympathy and light, irreverent analysis. “Britney needs to leave the bottle alone.” ([11:42] – Jack Armstrong)
  • Contrasts with Justin Timberlake’s more “together” life and current lawsuit to suppress body-cam DUI footage.
• Debate: Public Interest vs. Privacy
  Armstrong and co-host are skeptical that releasing celebrity arrest footage serves the public good.
  • Armstrong:
    “A misdemeanor crime should not serve to come with the penalty of incredible embarrassment to you if you're a known figure in your community.” ([21:27])
  • Co-host:
    “There needs to be standing for a FOIA request and it can be extremely broad… but I don't know if that applies given the embarrassment to JT. It's a tough one.” ([22:22])
  • Both agree there’s a mismatch between minor crime and public humiliation.

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5. Lighter Moments & Viral Marketing

• McDonald's “Big Arch” Viral Video & Internet Mockery (43:56–49:26)
  • The CEO’s awkward sandwich-tasting video becomes viral gold; Armstrong, co-host, and a comedian skewer his “unauthentic” performance.
    • Comedian:
      "We've tested it on the Germans and the Canadians, and now we believe it may even be fit for human consumption." ([46:42]) "This man does not eat McDonald's. He looks like he would try and read the ingredients on the back of a banana." ([47:00])
  • Co-host notes that unintentional (or intentional) viral videos are now “worth a billion dollars in advertising.”
• Patrick Mahomes & the Chiefs – Athletic Outliers
  • Brief NFL detour as hosts marvel at Mahomes’ superhuman recovery abilities.

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6. Closing Takes & Political Snark (49:26–end)

• Trump’s Role Choosing Iran's Next Leader
  • “Trump announced he must have a role in choosing Iran's next leader and called the son of the ayatollah who can't get an erection unacceptable.” ([49:26] – Armstrong)
  • “If somebody surrenders to you in wartime, that's kind of assumed…” ([49:47] – Co-host)
• California Politics / Gavin Newsom
  • Co-host predicts: “Gavin Newsom... He ain't gonna be the nominee no way.” ([39:49])

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Iran's Surrender:
  "We're going to do a Battleship Missouri, get a thousand sailors, have them sign some kind of document and declare victory. That's the only way it's happening." ([36:22] – Mike Lyons)
• On Media Presentation:
  “Why the same tone of voice for a new elephant habitat as for six died in Iran?” ([16:08] – Jack Armstrong, on David Muir)
• On Celebrity Misfortune:
  “Britney needs to leave the bottle alone.” ([11:42] – Jack Armstrong)
• On FOIA Requests and Media:
  “A misdemeanor crime should not... come with the penalty of incredible embarrassment to you if you're a known figure in your community.” ([21:27] – Jack Armstrong)
• Viral Marketing Satire:
  "This man does not eat McDonald's. He looks like he would try and read the ingredients on the back of a banana." ([47:00] – Comedian, mocking CEO)
• On U.S. Doctrine:
  “We have Americans that when they fight these wars, they take great initiative. In these other countries, it's so culturally different.” ([34:50] – Mike Lyons)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Middle East Update & Iran Discussion: 03:43–11:00, 27:18–38:29
• Mike Lyons Military Analysis: 28:08–38:22
• Kurdish Issue: 37:13–38:29
• Britney Spears & Justin Timberlake / Celebrity Law: 11:00–23:55
• McDonald's CEO Viral Video: 43:56–49:26

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Tone & Style

The episode’s tone is dynamic and fast-moving, filled with incisive irreverence, sharp political critique, and dry humor. Military analysis is delivered in accessible language and balanced with satirical takes on celebrity, advertising, and American culture.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

If you’re catching up, this episode provides a thorough, often hilarious, yet sobering run-through of both world affairs and popular culture. The heart of the show lies in its insightful breakdown of military strategy and geopolitics, while never veering far from pop culture skewering and light-hearted asides. Armstrong & Getty’s unmistakable chemistry and blend of humor with smart analysis keeps this episode both entertaining and enlightening.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Co-host/Commentator]

Here's Armstrong and yeti.

[Jack Armstrong]

Authorities in Georgia recently warned parents to check their child's lunch after a student mistakenly had a canned cut water lemon drop martini in their lunchbox.

[Mike Lyons]

Cause even at that age, you're too

[Co-host/Commentator]

mature for a cut water lemon drop martini. Ah, nice. You drink like a girl. Shot.

[Jack Armstrong]

Man. I could have used a mixed drink in my lunch in school when I was in grade school. That would have helped things. That helped things a lot.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Don't even dodgeball.

[Jack Armstrong]

Would have been a lot easier if I'd had a martini in my under my belt. Bottom of this hour. About a half an hour from now, we're going to talk to Mike Lyons, one of our favorite military analysts, about how the war is going in Iran. And you know, we're at war and there's a heck of a lot going on. Trump just said, just told CNN he's not worried whether Iran becomes a democratic state. Good. I think we all decided that was a failure. The whole George W. Bush we're going to impose democracy on all these countries that have never had it and don't want it.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah. Iran's a really interesting case in that it has, it has a long history of kings. I mean, almost the entire history is kings. And the ayatollah might as well have been one at the same time. They are people who demand, you know, their rights, property rights, speech rights, et cetera. And it's an interesting balance. So what it becomes, nobody knows. But maybe a democracy, maybe not.

[Jack Armstrong]

They should choose that themselves, though.

[Co-host/Commentator]

We should not push that upon them. Yeah, yeah. Hear, hear. Another big update. The Israeli military pounded Beirut, Lebanon with airstrikes today and issued more evacuation warnings as they intensified their campaign against IR backed Hezbollah militants. As I mentioned earlier, the. Well, I'll just read you the sentence. This is the New York Times. Lebanon was fast becoming the most heated front in the metastasizing regional conflict that began with US Israeli strikes on Iran a week ago. I think that as a wordsmith, I'm quibbling with the word metastasizing because that implies a obviously a cancerous, unintended

[Jack Armstrong]

kind

[Co-host/Commentator]

of random bad extension. And that's not what it is at all. It's okay, now it's time to do this. We are defeating these monsters for good. And now it's time for Hezbollah. So I'm looking at metastasizing. That's the new front.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm looking up at Martha Raddatz on ABC News, and she's featuring the Ayatollah's son, who's emerged as a possible taking over. And we told you the story about him yesterday. I just saw him. He looks like a guy who can't get an erection. Meaning he just has that look. That's the story about him. He was in the hospital for two months because he couldn't get an erection. I don't know what they do to you in the hospital.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Why are you here?

[Jack Armstrong]

The doctor might say I can't get an erection. Okay. And why are you here?

[Co-host/Commentator]

I'm, by the way, I'm the Ayatollah's son. Okay. I hope you're comfortable. Let us know if you need.

[Jack Armstrong]

What would you like me to do? Show you porn or. What do you want? What am I supposed to do as a doctor?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Anything beyond that, you gotta, you know, I don't know, go to a bar or something. Because I'm not helping you. Yeah. That is the story. Is that clever propaganda to discredit the guy in the Muslim world? I think probably so. He's got a theatrical beard. He can't grow a beard, and there's no lead in a pencil. I mean, you can't get elected in the Muslim world or you can't take control in the Muslim world. With that resume, there's no hope in that, Campbell. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. That was actually pretty good. Let's see, what else is important to know? Oh, Lord, this is degenerated. And I think, Michael, it's clear who's at fault, because it's not my fault. Now, if the avalanche of idiocy continues. He says, excusing himself, there has been yet another scandal in Saudi Arabia involving BOTOX use in a camel beauty contest. You remember this rocked the camel beauty contest world a few years ago.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'd forgotten that.

[Co-host/Commentator]

They have those live team coverage coming up. Let's see, where was I? Oh, yeah. As Iran's retaliatory strikes against the US hit US allies in the Persian Gulf, Saudi Arabia's Defense Ministry said on Friday it had intercepted and destroyed three ballistic missiles launched toward the Prince Sultan Air Base, a military complex south of Riyadh. Qatar's Foreign Ministry said, yeah, they've been attacking us too, and they're not having it. One of the worst miscalculations ever. Europe and Canada are wishy washy and keep changing their minds and reversing themselves. They're ridiculous. But European leaders, several of whom disapproved of the initial assault, have stepped up their deployment of military assets in the Middle East. Moves, they said aimed at protecting their citizens and interests as well as crucial shipping routes, now promised this last hour. And here it is. The fabulous JT in Livermore says, let's explain how Iran can be two weeks from breakout for years on end. And I will congratulate you folks in advance. You will now know the answer to this question because it is often asked like it's a rhetorical question. It's not a rhetorical question, it's a substantive question. You need two things to create a nuclear bomb. Fissile material concentrated enough to support a chain reaction which is around 90% concentration for uranium in a bomb capable of carrying out a controlled concatenation of two lumps of fissile material into one lump, preferably holding it together long enough to supercharge the chain reaction process. Iran has plenty of fissile material, some of which is at 60% concentration. Growing going from 60 to 90 would take about two weeks. Iran does not have a working bomb design, nor do they have the much more difficult missile capable bomb design that can be put on a ballistic missile. I think he means warhead. But that said, Iran may figure out the bomb part tomorrow or next week or in two weeks. And since we don't know when that will happen, the breakout period is really defined by the minimum time it would take to create a working bomb bomb. From the moment they create a working bomb design, you may be asking, why don't they just go ahead and get to 90% now? Then their breakout time would be zero. The short answer, it is much more difficult, expensive and dangerous to handle fissile material at that concentration. Plus there is 0 use for 90% concentration other than making nuclear bombs. So any plausible deniability that they have on legitimate research needs at 90% is non existent.

[Jack Armstrong]

Getting enough of that fizzled material, that was one of the features of the Oppenheimer movie. They had the big bowl with the whatever the marbles they were putting in it or whatever to show how close they were to getting the, the, the amount that they needed. Which is kind of interesting. That's the whole game.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I'm kind of surprised Iran hasn't been able to buy or beg the effect of warhead design from say Russia or North Korea or some malevolent actor.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. I think the like I see with North Korea why it's a big deal. They've got the bomb but what are they going to do without a rocket or a missile that can send it somewhere and then they may have the technology to do that. Now Iran, they just need the bomb. I mean they're so close to Israel. I know that they need a rocket. You get it over there in a boat or somehow practically.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Trevor Shay it in. Yeah. From Gaza.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you used to be able to. You wouldn't think perhaps that I can do the Britney Spears DUI story and turn it into a constitutional legal question, but I will tie it to her ex boyfriend Justin Timberlake who is suing currently to keep the footage of his DUI arrest from coming out. And it's kind of, it's a pretty interesting question. And I'm, I'm on the, I'm on, I'm on his side I think but we can get to that. Oh, and the Britney Spears stuff is just silly and what a, what a mess she is.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, Brittany needs to leave Brittany alone, son.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Brittany needs to leave the bottle alone.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh clearly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, stay here for lots of stuff.

[Mike Lyons]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, David Muir. I realize you're the host of the number one most watched news show in America, so you'd probably tell me shut up. But why the same tone of voice for a new elephant habitat as for six died in Iran?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Bent nosed jackass.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's just weird, isn't it that he doesn't have different gears?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, it's bizarre.

[Jack Armstrong]

Most of your news people have their light hearted tone that they go with a new elephant enclosure and then your serious voice for six soldiers killed in an attack on Iran. But he has the same voice no matter what it is. Which is weird, but that sounds pretty good. One of the best.

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He's too busy in the gym to develop another gear.

[Jack Armstrong]

One of the best zoos in the world is got their biggest thing they've ever done. That sounds pretty cool.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Remember a more innocent time. Gladys, do you remember a more innocent time when Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears were young Disney stars that had to deny they were dating and probably smoking pot and having sex. Which I think was a more innocent time. I think they've all confirmed they were but that they're supposed to be just smiling Disney people who were friends. And they were both young and hot and underage so they had to keep that all secret. And then they went on to be giant stars. Justin Timberlake, like a incredibly talented, very, very big pop star. Britney Spears mostly a big star because she's so hot. Her music always of medium grade to my opinion, but medium grade pays it

[Co-host/Commentator]

a compliment it does not deserve.

[Jack Armstrong]

Justin Timberlake's life seemed to be pretty on the rails. Married, kids, has a good reputation, but got arrested in A DUI last year, which we're going to get to in a second. Britney Spears, as we all know, she's been off the rails her entire life. Really. And you know, you would be too, if you're a child star. Sex pot with her parents starting at a young age. Your life would have been off the rails too. So I don't really judge her for that. But, man, she is. She is a mess. She has had 911 called about her house or from her house many, many times in the last year. She lives in this. I'm looking at this picture of this mansion. I don't have a value on it, but her Thousand Oaks SoCal La Area mansion is stunning. The thing is a compound. It looks like it's a hospital complex or a community college or something with tennis courts and pools and it's just enormous. So she obviously, one, did pretty well and two still has control of enough money because that's quite the home. Anyhoo, she got arrested for DUI night before last in Ventura county. And she was driving her super fancy. I think she was in her. What's that SUV thing that Mercedes makes that's designed to climb up a mountain that all the hotties and movie stars and rich people drive and never do anything more than go to, you know, to go down Rodeo Drive yoga class and back. But it's designed. Whatever. She was drunk and apparently she cried the entire time she was in jail, which, you know, I feel bad for. A lot of calls to 911 or about her claiming somebody is trying to trespass, which might be. She's probably getting involved with all kinds of ne' er do wells. If you've ever seen any of the videos she puts out regularly where she'll just put out a video. She gets dressed up in her hottie gear. I think she misses the days when she was like the number one sex

[Co-host/Commentator]

pot in the world.

[Jack Armstrong]

And sometimes she gets all drunk up or high or whatever she does and she puts on one of her hottie outfits and dances around in her kitchen and then posts it. Yeah, I don't know what that is. I feel bad for her.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Sad. That's what it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lots of wellness check 911 calls about her house. I don't know who's calling those in. Somebody who's probably like, I just left Brittany's house and she ain't doing so good. How about you go check on her? I ain't heard from her for a while. That sort of thing. No idea. Anyway, transitioning to something real and maybe Actually, even important, Justin Timberlake's DUI goes back all the way to June 2024. At this point, you know, it'll be two years here pretty soon. He was in Sag Harbor, New York. He left a bar, look kind of drunk, getting in his car. He runs a stop sign, driving erratically, gets pulled out, does the stupid human tricks that Todd Snyder would call them. And he's drunk. So it's a deal. He gets a dwi. Well, now he is suing, and this is important, pled guilty to a reduced charge of driving while impaired, a non criminal traffic violation. That's what he pled guilty to. That's what we, as society decided was the penalty we would agree to. All right. And almost all DUIs are a misdemeanor unless there's aggravating circumstances of it being multiple times or you're over a certain speed or you hit somebody or whatever. They're almost always a misdemeanor. So he's suing to keep the body camera footage from becoming public. Somebody did a FOIA request, Freedom of Information request, probably TMZ or the National Enquirer or somebody like that. It's not to help us safe as Americans be safe as Americans. It's to, you know, tonight on tmz, first time footage of Justin Timberlake's arrest. It's gonna be that sort of stuff.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Sure. To exploit it.

[Jack Armstrong]

In short, eight hours of footage of the arrest, the talking to him, the taking him to jail and then him being in custody and then him getting out. They have the whole thing on camera and there's an attempt to get this released. And according to the law, that's what's supposed to happen. But Timberlake is, is suing, saying that the video's dissemination served zero public interest, which I would agree. And could lead to economic hardship. They did agree to delay the release pending a resolution. The case is ongoing. It's being bumped up to other courts. It's going to get looked at at various times. I've always thought that we gotta figure out a way around this. A misdemeanor crime should not serve to come with the penalty of incredible embarrassment to you if you're a known figure in your community. On all.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I, I would agree. I mean, all that hours of him being booked and the rest of it. Maybe his nose was really itchy and he was rubbing at his nose and blowing his nose. It's just. Here's my solution and I've just thought about this for 10 seconds. But there needs to be standing for a FOIA request and it can be extremely broad. I'm a citizen, I pay taxes and this agency is doing xyz.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have a right to know how they handle DUI checkpoints.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Well, yeah, I don't know if that applies given the embarrassment to jt. It's a tough one. It's an interesting question.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think it should. I don't think we should be able to see it. I don't think it does serve anything. But how you, how you do that like they're Tommy what was the baseball coach that we used to make fun of? He was Tony Larussa, used to coach the Cardinals and the A's and a bunch of other teams and he was sleeping at a stoplight and they woke him up and they asked him to do the Alphabet backwards and he said several letters in a row and all this different sort of stuff and we mocked that and had fun with it. But that that didn't serve any public interest other than mirth.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Highly embarrassed a guy over I think what was a misdemeanor. Also a misdemeanor crime comes with a lifetime of ridicule.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Now I feel bad about my mirth. Michael, find that podcast and erase it please.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, we've done it many times. I don't drink so it doesn't apply to me. But yeah, I'll be interested.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I could see you becoming involved in some sort of hijinks that would yield good video.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, I definitely that's not crossing off the possibility. No, no. It's 100% on the list of possibility. We got Mike Lyons coming up to talk about Iran. Let us know what you think about that whole releasing the DUI footage. Yes or no?

[Joe Getty]

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The Iranian government is vowing not to back down not to negotiate with the United States. And Iran's military says that it is going to continue targeting not just US Assets here in this region, like military bases in the Gulf states, but of course, continue to target Israel as well. The Iranians are saying that their missile stockpiles are still very much filled and that their missiles are very capable as well.

[Jack Armstrong]

You never know what's bluster and what's not. Several got through in Israel last night. One thing I want to talk to Mike Lyons about is what is the likelihood that Ukraine, Israel, us, a bunch of people, run out of these defensive pieces of equipment we've got, and then all of a sudden the reins of drones and rockets and everything start getting through.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Let's start there with military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike, it's always great to have you. Why don't we start there? What do you think? How much ordnance do we have and how short are the supplies looking?

[Mike Lyons]

Well, there's two issues here, right? There's the defense of these missiles coming towards Israel, and yet the US Bases and the Middle Eastern countries. But then there's the offensive side to it. We have plenty of the offensive weapons. So I think this comes down to, once again, archers and arrows. And if we go after the archers and they would take away their capability to have arrows, then we're going to accomplish the same thing. And I took that from the CENTCOM commander yesterday. We don't want to be on the defensive. These missiles are very expensive. You know, those Block four and five missiles that we have in the destroyers. I was talking to my son about this last night, you know, 25 to 30 million dollars for those missile systems that, you know, were developed under Obama. And it's, you know, we've got to thank in some ways that that administration for having a foresight to understand this. And they're really to protect the carrier. Right? Those are the kind of weapon systems there, but those are being deployed out there right now. So there's definitely this economic side to this. But I guess to your question, I don't see us running out of either side. We'll get them from someplace, but we're not going to get to that point because we're going to take out, we're going to take out all the archers before they launch them.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Mike, I read with interest about Iran's missile cities, they call them. They spent decades constructing these underground bunkers to shield their missile arsenal. But apparently now we know more or less where they are and we're just circling them and waiting till they stick their heads up and then blowing the hell out of them.

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah. This is the other positive side of the autonomous systems that we have. The drones we have. Right. In the old days and, you know, 30 years ago when we were Scud hunting, we had to do that with live pilots and they had to, you know, take a break and go back and we had to refuel. Now we can put these Reaper drones and we could put them on station. They could just sit up there and loiter for 12 hours at a time. And more than that, and some Air Force officer in Nevada has got a joystick and he's watching on a screen. And again, the second they move, next thing you know, they've got, you know, Hellfire missiles raining down on them. So. So again, the level of technology, what we brought to the battle, the level, the level of intelligence that we have, is really putting a cramp on any kind of their ability to be the archer to launch those arrows.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we're. Oh, I'm sorry.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Let me jump in just very briefly. U.S. central Command said yesterday that Iran's missile launchers have dropped launches, have dropped 86% in four days.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Co-host/Commentator]

So that strategy is working. Jack, back to you. Sorry.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we are all, for the most part, layman, you know, watching this. And I don't know if you, like, ever watched a basketball game or a football game with somebody who actually played professionally and they start pointing out things that you never think about. I'm asking you that question as somebody who has been there, done that. When it comes to war in the Middle east, like, what has gotten your attention or you're talking about that most of us are missing.

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah. Just the uniqueness of Iran trying to fight an air war of attrition. Never have seen that before.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Mike Lyons]

We've seen wars of attrition on the ground against great powers and countries in World War I and grinding and inch by inch, the only way the Iranians survive this is if they can do what you said initially, try to get the United States to expend its missile defense capability, which is why they've got to be selective in what they're fighting. So they're going to try to win a war of air attrition. We've never seen something like that happen before. Now, frankly, they have no chance. And a lot of it is because they have no allies. I mean, the issue, you know, Russia is not there, The Chinese aren't there. All this may be soft power they're providing to them is helping on some level, but they have no shot at doing this. But it's worth it. Their only strategy that they can deploy right now. So from my perspective, from a guy who's on the ground that has watched things happen, from air power perspective, look, I was in desert storm for 37 days and we watched the airstrikes go on. But at the end of the day, we had to still go. We had to still unleash ground troops. This might be one situation where, again, no large formations are showing up. One more thing. I was at the Air Force Academy the other day, and we were talking to some of their professors about the A10s are there. So the A10s are a tactical air fighting vehicle, and they're being used now against drones. The A10 is from an army perspective. It's something that's our friend. We saw them in Desert Storm again, and they're just incredible against tanks. But the level of equipment that we brought to the fight here in order to go against the drones and go against Iran is, you know, everything's off the table. So, again, an air war of attrition is something we've never seen before.

[Co-host/Commentator]

What do you think Russia and to a greater extent, China. What lessons are they taking from what they're observing right now?

[Mike Lyons]

Oh, China's in trouble. We are totally threatening their energy security. And this is another thing no one's talking about. And I think that China has watched Germany and France in the Second World War, or Japan, I'm sorry, Germany and Japan lose the Second World War power because they couldn't keep up with their industrial base. China, I think, looked at Desert Storm, looked at the United States military power, tried to create this supply chain that the US Would be reliant on and hold these kind of choke points when it comes to energy. They just don't have the same energy that the United States has access to. And China has been on the sidelines, right, because why aren't they supporting the Iranians? Why aren't they sending military equipment there? Well, that's because they're very passive and they just can't seem to commit there because they thought they would never have this place. Donald Trump, what this administration has done now, taking away their oil that came from Venezuela, and now if we end up controlling the oil within the Middle east and coming through the Strait of Hermit here, Chinese energy is in real trouble. Their security is in trouble. And this could. There's no way that they can invade Taiwan right now. They don't have the amount of energy that it's going to take to sustain any kind of combat operations there. I Think the very little secret to that, though is just I'm not sure the United States military would do much if that was the case. But anyway, I think China right now is really very concerned about how the US has projected power so quickly and has really put their energy in big trouble.

[Jack Armstrong]

So, speaking of China, I meant to ask this the other day. I've been wondering, I assume this war with Iran will be over in a couple months. We, for better or worse, have been involved in a lot of military activity around the world. So we have a lot of experienced people out there. How much advantage is that versus a country like China that really hasn't been in battle in a very long time?

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah, I think it is an advantage. And although when we first went to combat, you know, when I first went to combat, I didn't have any advantage too. But you gain it quickly. But we do. We've got, you know, we're great power with in our DNA that is good at combat, it's good at war. And a lot of ways because we don't pay attention to our doctrine. We have Americans that when they fight these wars, they take great initiative. In these other countries, it's so culturally different. I mean, again, it's the great thing, I think, about our country. But yeah, so, you know, the Chinese have great equipment, but maybe not. The Chinese is looking at our navy. Absolutely. Destroy the Iranian navy sinking to the bottom of the sea. Well, the Chinese have a lot to do with formulating the Iranian navy as well. When this is going to be over, though, when this is going to be over is when we're going to find somebody. We're going to break the mold here from the last 50 years. We're going to find somebody in Iran to stand up and say we Surren and I saw something that Trump put out there, I think this morning, about it. We're not going to play this game anymore about Ceasefire and all this other stuff. Watching people try to say we're committing war crimes by sinking ships and not rescuing survivors is just again, beyond the pale here. Great powers, we're in a great power struggle right now and we're just overtly displaying our power and we're not stopping until they say surrender.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah. The challenge obviously in the surrender question is, I mean, the highest ranking official in Iran might be the assistant manager of a grocery store at this point. Who surrenders and who's with them?

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah, and you're right, it's the assistant to the general manager. I don't know. They're going to find somebody The Israelis, I'm sure, are working on it. And, you know, look at. It's the Venezuela situation. We're going to keep going until we find someone that has any kind of authority that wants to negotiate. Now, also, you saw the Kurds have entered the fight. They could be the force on the ground that keeps the Revolutionary Guards at bay. So, again, big country, lots of time to go. But we're not. Again, we're not stopping until we find that person that says, I surrender. We're going to do a Battleship Missouri, get a thousand sailors, have them sign some kind of document and declare victory. That's the only way it's happening.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike, great stuff. We will look forward to chatting again. Have a great weekend.

[Mike Lyons]

Thanks, guys. Thanks for having me.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Thanks, Mike.

[Jack Armstrong]

That whole Kurd thing is really interesting. So there's a whole bunch of Kurds in Iraq. There's a whole bunch of Kurds in Turkey. They've been wanting their own state forever. They have helped us a whole bunch of different times. This might be the time that they think it's now or never for us to carve out a chunk of land.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah. At the same time, did you see. And I thought I had it. I can't find it. There was a letter from the first lady of Iraq, who is Kurdish, evidently. And she said, you screwed us in 92 when you. Blah, blah, blah, and then we stood up for you against isis, and all of a sudden we weren't your good buddies when. When Turkey complained or whatever. The Kurds are not your hired gunman. Leave us alone. So I wonder how widespread that sentiment is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, then. So there was talk yesterday, I don't know how long that lasted, or of the Kurds putting together a military and moving into Iran. And then Trump made that announcement that he'd give air cover to any group that wants to go in there and try to be in charge.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And kick out the old regime. So, man, who knows what direction this is going?

[Co-host/Commentator]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Good news if you're a chiefs and or Patrick Mahomes fan. Also, we need to check in on the burger wars with that McDonald's CEO burger tasting video that has gotten so

[Co-host/Commentator]

much attention and Gavin Newsom getting a well deserved kicking. He ain't gonna be the nominee no way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's your prediction?

[Co-host/Commentator]

That is my prediction.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not even the nominee, let alone elected president?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Not a chance.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stay tuned.

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Armstrong and Getty.

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McDonald's burger commercial that's getting so much attention, maybe your kid has a Patrick Mahomes jersey, no matter where you live. Because when I was a kid, I was a Miami Dolphins fan. You know why? Because I was a little kid and they won the Super Bowl a couple of times. So I was rooting for the team that, that, that won. And a lot of my friends were Pittsburgh Steeler fans. So I know so many kids that have Patrick Mahomes jerseys because the Chiefs have been the best team for practically a decade. He.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You're a bandwagon jumper as early as childhood. Disgusting.

[Jack Armstrong]

So he. He tore his ACL last game of the season, and they didn't know if he'd be able to play this year at all. Maybe half the season. It looks like he's going to be ready to start. And I was just reading some descriptions from the doctors and the trainers saying he does not have the normal body, he does not having the normal pain tolerance, and he does not have the normal healing process. They don't exactly know what all is

[Co-host/Commentator]

going on there, but all for the better.

[Jack Armstrong]

All for the better. Yes, yes, yes, yes. He hasn't. So he's going to be ready to go. This was clearly a win for McDonald's. Clearly. I mean, I guarantee you the CEO is thrilled. Even though he's being mocked all around the world for his kind of goofy video he put out about tasting their new sandwich. Everybody knows about the sandwich now. They couldn't. If they'd have spent a billion dollars on commercials, there wouldn't be as many people know about the new sandwich as know about it now.

[Co-host/Commentator]

And you know, it's funny, in your introduction, you called it a commercial, which it isn't. But of course it is. Right? The new viral video as commercial. That's a zillion dollars worth of advertising. That's why they work so hard on making them. This one, I think, unintentionally.

[Jack Armstrong]

So it's just him sitting at the table in the lunchroom there at McDonald's, looking like a dweeb with the new sandwich. It sounds like this Chris K. Here with. You've heard about it. Here it is, the big arch. I'm gonna do a tasting right now, but I'm gonna eat this for my lunch, just so you know. So here we go. First.

[Mike Lyons]

Holy cow.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Ow.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, that is a big burger. So much going on with this. First of all, let's. Okay. Because we're getting to the comedian mocking it, who plays a lot of it too. So one comedian mocking it. Every comedian is mocked it. There are gazillions of memes out there, including among the CEOs of the various burger places. The Burger King guy did one. The Jack in the Box guy did one. Everybody's done one of some version or another that are all pretty funny, but here's a comedian talking about it.

[Comedian]

So I've just seen a video of the McDonald's CEO eating a McDonald's, and it's probably the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life.

[Mike Lyons]

The big arch.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is something that we have tested already. Portugal, Germany, Canada.

[Comedian]

We've tested it on the Germans and the Canadians, and now we believe it may even be fit for human consumption.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Love this product.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is so good.

[Comedian]

I love to consume this product. Yeah, give me two. Burger product, please. This man does not eat McDonald's. He looks like he would try and read the ingredients on the back of a banana.

[Jack Armstrong]

I do a tasting right now, but I'm gonna eat this for my lunch.

[Comedian]

Just so you know, he's making excuses as to why he's not gonna eat the burger. I will allow the product to enter at a later date during my lunch. It's been tested on the Canadians. I'm not afraid of them.

[Jack Armstrong]

How to get this thing. I don't even know how to attack it.

[Comedian]

The man doesn't even know how to hold a burger. Why'd you let him on here without any practice?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Wow, that is funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

It looks like he'd read the ingredients on the back of a banana. That is funny. I don't even know how to. Oh, my gosh, look at this. I saw another comedian the other day because he was going through that, and you got this. You got this bread on the. Yeah, it's a bun. It's a bun. We've all seen a bun. It's like every bottle on every bird you've ever seen. Lighten up.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I don't know how to attack this. Hand it to me. I'll show you.

[Jack Armstrong]

And of course, the funniest part is he takes such a tiny little nibble of it. Kind of like if you tell your kids to try something that they think or know they're not going to like, you take a tiny little bite and say, okay, it tastes a little nibble. And then sets it down.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It's probably a vegetarian conspicuous cut where he clearly spit it out.

[Jack Armstrong]

And yet.

[Co-host/Commentator]

And yet it's be.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It's a grand slam home run for McDonald's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Absolutely. A home run that everybody's talking about. The big arch in the new sandwich. Yeah. You.

[Mike Lyons]

You.

[Jack Armstrong]

You choose it.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah. We were talking yesterday later in the show if you missed it, about the influencer economy and the tens hundreds of billions of dollars now that are flowing into, you know, dweebs you've never heard of in your Life who have 1.7 million followers on Instagram or YouTube or TikTok or whatever will say oh my God, I just use this whatever lipstick garden hose, you know, guitar string. Just every, you know, subcategory of the economy.

[Mike Lyons]

Me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And so what is the big arch? What is it roughly? I've never paid attention to the commercial of the actual details of it. In what ways it.

[Co-host/Commentator]

What was the other that Carl's Jr. Somebody had the ten dollar burger or something like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

It just ten dollars burgers now.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh yeah, good point. It's just like that. This is the super deluxe. All right, you, you like McDonald's but you're not poor. Here's a, here's a real burger for you.

[Jack Armstrong]

You fantastic.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Dollar menu or real burger? Dollar menu to the left place. It's that sort of thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump announced he must have a role in choosing Iran's next leader and called the son of the ayatollah who can't get an erection unacceptable.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Probably because of his lack of virility. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

And particularly how do we feel about the Trump saying I should have a role in choosing the next leader in effect.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah. If somebody surrenders to you in wartime, that's, that's kind of assumed almost, I think. Tell you who you shouldn't assume is going to be a leader is Gavin Newsom. What a weak act he is. Details on that to to come. Mark Wayne Mullen. Excellent choice for dhs. Should have been the first choice.

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably not.

[Co-host/Commentator]

What are you? Not from where I sit, no. But you live and learn all of that. More next hour. If you can't stick around, grab it via podcast. Armstrong you Getty on demand

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