It's From Bangin' That Green Girl

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: It’s From Bangin’ That Green Girl
Date: February 20, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This episode blends political analysis, cultural commentary, and classic Armstrong & Getty humor. The show kicks off with news about the Supreme Court ruling on Trump’s tariffs, explores economic shifts (such as changing alcohol consumption), dives deep into society’s evolving relationship with sex and AI—sparked by Senator Ben Sasse’s reflections—and closes with a debate on space aliens, government secrets, and the Fermi Paradox. As always, the tone is sharp, irreverent, and deeply curious.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Supreme Court Ruling on Tariffs and Small Businesses

• [00:29 - 01:45]
  • The Supreme Court ruled Trump cannot impose tariffs broadly or intermittently.
  • Discussion focuses on how this impacts small businesses particularly, rather than just big corporations.
    • Jack: “The little guy that is the most interesting part of this whole tariff ruling today. [...] Little businesses are just barely squeaking by most of the time.” (00:29)
    • Joe notes many small businesses were driven out or had to lay off workers thanks to unpredictable input costs from fluctuating tariffs.
    • Jack: “They don't have lobbyists, the little fellas, they don't have influence.” (01:25)
    • They discuss the difference between strategic tariffs (responding to genuine unfair trade from countries like China) versus broad, scattershot tariffs.

2. Cultural Shifts: Fewer People Drinking & The Role of Risk Aversion

• [05:04 - 09:50]
  • Gallo, a leading US wine maker, is shutting down production in Napa Valley, signaling major decline in wine consumption.
  • Speculation on why younger generations are drinking less:
    • Shift to THC (smoking, vaping) over alcohol.
    • Increasing risk aversion among young people—fear of losing control.
    • Rise of self-service kiosks in restaurants, attributed to Millennials/Gen Z avoiding human interaction.
      • Joe: “I’d rather walk up there and say, give me a double cheeseburger, no onions.” (07:27)
    • Arthur Brooks’ argument: “Why are young people choosing OnlyFans over love? The answer, I believe, is fear.” (08:10)
    • Jack: “We're not having babies, we're not having sex, we're not getting our drink on. Strange times.” (09:03)

3. The Digital Revolution, Sex Decline, & Ben Sasse’s Reflections

• [11:01 - 17:13]
  • Emotional segment discussing Ben Sasse—Nebraska senator facing terminal illness. Joe highlights Sasse’s unique, principled approach to politics and life.
  • Sasse discusses the collapse of sex in America and theorizes the “digital revolution” supercharges both positive and negative aspects of culture, leading to a “crap ton less sex everywhere.”
    • Notable Quote:
      • Ben Sasse: “But you would never think that the digital revolution would cause a collapse in sex…There's almost no sex in America...And it’s because a porn revolution has made it way easier for people to be satisfied—not really, but to be short term satisfied—without having to go through all the work of having communion and relationship with another human who’s annoying.” (13:51)
    • Jack and Joe extrapolate: the digital revolution saps not just sexual desire but all desire—for work, love, leaving the house, etc.
      • Jack jokes: “What's obviously next, you don't breathe anymore because you're on a website that shows people breathing...” (15:51)

4. Extraterrestrials, Obama vs. Trump & The Fermi Paradox

• [17:13 - 29:37]
  • Obama and Trump spar (indirectly) over alien revelations: Obama suggests on a podcast that “aliens are real,” leading Trump to accuse him of leaking classified info.
  • Clips played: Obama’s remarks, followed by Trump’s (with Peter Doocy) dismissal and mock seriousness about declassifying alien secrets. Humor and disbelief abound in their reactions.
    • Obama: “They’re real, but I haven’t seen them…There’s no underground facility. Unless there’s this enormous conspiracy and they hid it from the President.” (19:01)
    • Trump: “He gave classified information, he’s not supposed to be doing that. I may get him out of trouble by declassifying.” (19:21, 19:47)
  • The hosts debate the possibility of life elsewhere, the Fermi Paradox, and how detection is complicated by the vastness of space and time.
    • Joe: “I’ve completely switched gears…I’m leaning way more toward there is no other life anywhere else out there in the universe. Just based on a lot of reading…” (21:27)
    • Jack evokes the “when are they?” argument—maybe life came and went elsewhere eons ago.

5. William Shatner, Sci-fi Humor, and Deep Space Reflections

• [25:53 - 28:34]
  • Celebratory ribbing about William Shatner’s agelessness, sex life (“banging that green girl”), and his observations about the cold, dead nature of space after his trip.
    • Shatner roast joke: “For those of you who don't know, Klingon is a language you speak when you want people to know you're a virgin.” (27:20)
    • Reflection: Life’s rarity makes our existence feel precious and a little weird. “It’s a terrifying notion [if Earth is alone],” Jack says. (26:42)

6. Religion, Science, and Why We Seek Aliens

• [28:51 - 29:47]
  • Is the drive to “find aliens” partly an effort to undercut religion? Hosts ponder whether anti-religion advocates wish for extraterrestrial confirmation.
    • Joe: “Does the anti-God, anti-religion crowd really, really want there to be life on other planets? Because it makes it so much more difficult.” (28:51)
    • They both conclude that their own ambivalence or belief/disbelief isn’t rooted in religion.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Small Business & Tariffs:
  • Jack: “They don’t have lobbyists, the little fellas, they don’t have influence.” (01:25)
• On Risk Aversion:
  • Joe: “There are new restaurants…kiosk only. My son said, it’s because the young people don’t want to have to talk to anybody.” (07:27)
• On Digital Revolution's Effects:
  • Ben Sasse: “There's a crap ton less sex everywhere in American life. And it's because a porn revolution has made it way easier for people to be satisfied—not really, but to be short term satisfied—without having to go through all the work of having communion and relationship with another human who's annoying.” (13:51)
  • Jack: “We're not having babies, we're not having sex, we're not getting our drink on. Strange times.” (09:03)
• On Aliens & Government Secrets:
  • Obama: “They’re real, but I haven’t seen them… There’s no underground facility.” (19:01)
  • Trump: “He gave classified information […] I may get him out of trouble by declassifying.” (19:21, 19:47)
• On the Fermi Paradox:
  • Joe: “If there ever has been, over the span of time, intelligent life come to be somewhere, how’s there never been a blip of noise or any sign whatsoever?” (22:27)
  • Jack (on Shatner): “He may be immortal. We need to stop looking for life on other planets and try to figure out why William Shatner’s holding on to youth so well.” (28:07)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Time | |-----------------------------------------------|---------------| | Supreme Court & Small Business Tariffs | 00:29–01:45 | | Decline in Wine/Alcohol – Cultural Analysis | 05:04–09:50 | | Ben Sasse Reflections on AI & Sex | 11:01–17:13 | | Aliens: Obama v. Trump + Fermi Paradox | 17:13–29:37 | | William Shatner & Sci-fi Reflections | 25:53–28:34 | | Religion vs. Science on Extraterrestrial Life | 28:51–29:47 | | Closing thoughts & Show Wrap-up | 33:17–34:33 |

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

Armstrong & Getty toggle seamlessly between thoughtful cultural critique, political news, philosophical exploration, and their signature comic riffing. They approach big questions—about technology, meaning, and even the fate of civilization—with a blend of irreverence and underlying sincerity. The episode’s recurring motifs are uncertainty, rapid change, and the enduring weirdness of modern life.

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Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human broadcasting.

[Joe Getty]

Live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio

[Jack Armstrong]

at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

It's the little guy that is the most interesting part of this whole tariff ruling today. So the Supreme Court has ruled that Trump cannot throw around all these tariffs in all these different countries for a variety of reasons. And, you know, a lot of attention gets paid to Chevy, Ford, whoever, Apple. But I was just reading a thing in the Dispatch. But all these little businesses, you know, and little businesses are just barely squeaking by most of the time. And how they couldn't order things from other countries to put together whatever it is they put together because they didn't know what they're going to cost or they'd buy them. And they were. And then a week later they wish they hadn't bought them because the tariff got dropped for some reason. You know how they would come and go really fast and. And just how devastating it was to try to run a business like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

And they don't have lobbyists, the little fellas, they don't have influence. And the inputs they need to manufacture in the US were being heavily tariffed. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

How many.

[Jack Armstrong]

This policy from the beginning, how many

[Joe Getty]

of those businesses were driven out of business or really, really stunted their growth

[Jack Armstrong]

over the last year or laid off a bunch of people.

[Joe Getty]

Laid off a bunch of people. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, two entirely different questions. If China, for instance, is dumping goods on us to undermine our industry, tariff the crap out of them. But just all the rest of that stuff. Nah, never liked it. Never liked it. Great takedown of Gavi Newsome by, of all people. Carl Ro? Ve is a skilled man. We'll touch on that a little bit later on.

[Joe Getty]

But first, you had something, though, you said was a good last hour Friday thing. Was that the text email thing?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, I'd like to do that.

[Joe Getty]

And I also have Ben Sasse. Oh, who's going to be dead in a couple weeks. He talks very openly about it in his latest interview. Yeah, yeah, it's really interesting, but, man, he said a lot of interesting stuff about the structure of government and what we've lost in terms of civics and stuff like that. He also had an interesting take on the fact that we've all stopped having sex. So maybe, maybe we'll get to that this hour.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I'd love to hear that. Yeah. So much to cram in the last hour of the week. But first Friday tradition. Let's take a fond look back at the week that was its cow clips of the week for we in America have no interest in being polite and orderly caretakers of the West's managed decline.

[Joe Getty]

A massive US Military buildup is underway in the Middle East.

[Peter Doocy]

Now is the time for Iran to join us on a path that will complete what we're doing. Bad things will happen if it doesn't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Would and should the US Actually commit US Troops to defend Taiwan.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I think that this is such a. You know, I think that this is a. We have mice. We must fight just for our rights.

[Jack Armstrong]

Look at the future and set our sights, guys.

[Joe Getty]

Survivors had found three deceased members of their group. Search teams then found five more, all of them close together.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're being given food that is low in nutrition and high in calories and it's making. It's destroying our health.

[Peter Doocy]

How does this compare with tobacco? It's as large, if not larger.

[Jack Armstrong]

Police in the United Kingdom arrested Britain's former Prince Andrew on suspicion of misconduct.

[Peter Doocy]

I love Nicki Minaj. So beautiful. His skin. So beautiful. I said Nicki. So beautiful.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get off the. Let him do his job. He's doing the right thing. Back up off of it. Are aliens real?

[Joe Getty]

They're real, but I haven't seen him

[Peter Doocy]

and well, he gave classified information. He's not supposed to be doing that. I may get him out of trouble by declassifying. Do not despair. The calvary is coming.

[Joe Getty]

Wait here shoots.

[Jack Armstrong]

He scores.

[Joe Getty]

He scores. A script that would have been rejected as far fetched. The joy, the passion.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's clips of the week.

[Joe Getty]

You've been mocking it all day. But I'd like to get into the back and forth between Obama and Trump about extraterrestrial life.

[Jack Armstrong]

I will mock it while you do

[Joe Getty]

it and what Obama said about it. So maybe we can get to that. Coming up, I did want to ask you about this since it's your wheelhouse.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh.

[Joe Getty]

America's biggest winemaker has shut down production in Napa Valley and it's a huge blow to the wine heartland.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do tell.

[Joe Getty]

Gallo announced the closure of a large Napa Valley production facility and the elimination of jobs across two counties and some of their other smaller companies beneath them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, boutique labels.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

They have some other, like, more expensive boutique labels.

[Jack Armstrong]

They've all.

[Joe Getty]

They're also shutting down 100 plus jobs in Napa and Sono Sonoma counties. This is being seen as a real blow to St. Helena. I mean, it's been a big industry there for a long time. Gallo's also slashing staff at some of its other prestigious labels, including the Louis M. Martini Winery and the Orange Swift tasting room in St. Helena, as well as Jane Vineyards and Fry Ranch in Healdsburg.

[Ben Sasse]

Frey.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So it says here that it has a lot to do with the people drinking less.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Yeah, I had heard this, but yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Why?

[Joe Getty]

Why did drinking fall off that much that fast?

[Jack Armstrong]

There are all sorts of theories about that. That's the answer to that is an essay that includes several different theories. You know, number one, they're more into smoking pot or vaping their THC or whatever. There's also the thought. And I found this so persuasive, I can't remember if it was Peggy Noonan or somebody wrote it. And I just came across a piece of thinking slash writing that tended to substantiate it. Youngsters are terrified by being out of control, by taking chances, by taking risks, by calling for a pizza, by asking a girl out or asking a boy out. And the idea of a little bit of loss of control is just too scary to them. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

There's a couple of new restaurants that opened up in my college town and both of them are kiosk only. You don't get to order with a human being, which I hate. I'd rather walk up there and say, give me a double cheeseburger, no onions. They tell me how much it is. I tap my watch, I walk away. I don't like scrolling through the screen now, but I said, I wonder why that is. And my son said, it's because of the young people that don't want to have to talk to anybody.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

They're more. More likely to go to the restaurant that's got the kiosk. And I thought, wow, is that true that it's. It's a noticeable enough number of people that you would put a kiosk in your restaurant because, you know, a lot of your customers don't want to have to walk up and say to someone, I'll take the number three.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Yeah, yeah. We don't have time for this. Wow. We've already mentioned more than we can get to this hour, but Arthur Brooks, who I quoted the other day about happiness and the study of happiness, he wrote a great piece, why are Young people Choosing only fans over love? The answer, I believe, is fear. And he makes the case that it's just too uncertain for the modern anxiety prone veal calf to take a chance to roll the dice. Anyway. Yeah, yeah, I wonder. I don't I don't know. But yeah, the wine that I just. I happen to be at the single malt Scotch society I belonged to last night and they mentioned that I can't remember. It's 1 out of 5 distilleries in Scotland is in severe financial difficulty.

[Joe Getty]

I'll be damned.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's the western world. We're not having babies, we're not having sex, we're not getting our drink on. Strange times.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe it is the right time for AI to come along and you don't have to go to work and you just sit in your house and look at porn and.

[Jack Armstrong]

Smart.

[Joe Getty]

Smoke pot.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm so glad I was born when I was.

[Joe Getty]

Doesn't sound like that enjoyable a life to me. But like I said the other day, I'll bet there's a hell of a lot of people that would check the yes box for what I just described. Yeah, I wouldn't. That sounds awful to me, but I bet a majority would. A bit of more. Jerry said that you don't have to smoke pot but sit in my house, watch porn, play video games, smoke, drink, whatever. No job. Yeah. Where do I sign up? Yeah, I'll be damn.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yikes. I worry for humanity.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of the not having sex, one of the smartest people ever in government. Ben Sasse talking about that in the final weeks of his life. Among other things. On the way. Armstrong and Getty Abercrombie's new spring collection has every outfit you need for the season of long weekends full of linen shirts, sweaters and coastal shorts designed to go from your desk straight to days off. For me, the collection's a must have are the baggy trousers with the casual fit and tailored look for endless versatility. Get your closet ready for spring plans. Shop Abercrombie in the app, online and in stores. So I don't have a sense of how many of y' all know who Senator Ben Sasse is. I almost said was he's still alive. He who's a favorite of our show. He's a favorite of lots of conservatives. He Nebraska senator, super smart guy. Came in young, highly educated at your elite universities, but with conservative principles and, you know, classic liberal views of the world.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would add. Wise, reasonable, kind.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, all kinds of good. We played lots of clips of his speeches throughout the years and he left government to go and run be president of Florida. University of Florida. Is that the one he chose? Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And he was. Was he at Nebraska? I can't remember.

[Joe Getty]

He. He's dying. He got diagnosed and right before Christmas with stage four pancreatic cancer and given 30 days to live. It's been more than 30 days and he's still alive. He's on some experimental new chemo thing that they're trying and he said he looks like he might get 90 days instead of the 30 days. And he's about halfway through that. But he did a long interview yesterday, it was really, really interesting. I tweeted it out and we can put [e-mail] it's worth listening to. And if the cancer stuff's too heavy, skip that and just listen to him talk about government. Oh my God, I wish everybody in government, even people that didn't, doesn't don't agree with him. If they could talk about it in that way with a very principled, reasonable, grown up kind of the way I picture the founders discussing things, way of talking about government. God, there are not many people like that. As he said, we got a whole bunch of people in Congress that want to be TikTok stars, not legislators.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I think if the folks who don't approach it in a Sassian style were to be honest, they'd say, guys, there's too much money at stake to be gentlemanly. It's all about money now. We've let the government get so big, there's so much money flowing through it. I can't compromise and be like a founding father. I gotta be like a money grubbing hoe.

[Joe Getty]

It's also just plain interesting to listen to a smart guy who knows he's gonna be dead really, really soon, talk about lots of things, including looking back over his life and thinking he got the work life balance wrong thing in his 20s and 30s. And then he was on the road too much and really, really regrets doing that, which is interesting, but I couldn't recommend this interview more highly. He's got a podcast he's starting here in like a week or so. Geez. He doesn't have many weeks left, but with some friends that it was in the work before he got diagnosed, so they're just staying on track and he's gonna be part of the podcast until he's, until he's gone. But it got into the topic of changes in AI and social media and all these different sorts of things and the Internet and what's that done to society and is it making it better or worse or can we survive it? And a lot of the conversations we've had on this show over and over again. What, you know, what, what, what's AI going to do for us? Anyway, this is where it went.

[Ben Sasse]

Like, people ask me all the time when I was still on the speaker circuit, is the digital revolution going to bring heaven or is the digital revolution gonna bring hell? Yes. The only right answer is it's gonna bring everything humans do faster. The good stuff, more of it faster. The bad stuff, more of it faster. But you would never think that the digital revolution would cause a collapse in sex. But we know it's happening. There's almost no sex in America. There's less premarital sex. There's less marital sex. There's less extramarital sex. The only increase in sex is like there's some 70 year old rich dudes who have Viagra, who have a tick more sex. But in general, there's a crap ton less sex everywhere in American life. And it's because a porn revolution has made it way easier for people to be satisfied. Not really, but to be short term satisfied without having to go through all the work of having communion and relationship with another human who's annoying. And so like, sex is great. And the digital revolution has created something that has made us all bored by sex. That's weird.

[Joe Getty]

No kidding. And this. And the point of this conversation isn't just about sex. I don't think that was his point. It's that you take something as amazing as sex and you can drive that impulse out of people with what he calls the digital revolution, then anything's on the table, obviously.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. You know, it's funny, it struck me, I've been so busy dressing up Ben Sasse in a tricorner hat and a powdered wig and the rest of it is worthy of the founding Fathers. I forgot how likable he was. And is. Yeah, crap. For instance, the use of the term crap. Ton. Yeah, everything more and faster.

[Joe Getty]

But if. If the desire for sex can be driven out of us by getting enough of whatever from the Internet, then empty calories.

[Jack Armstrong]

As I've been arguing for a very

[Joe Getty]

long time, absolutely everything's on the table. Everything. Desire to work. Desire to love. Desire. Desire to. Desire to leave our homes. This is everything.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's obviously next, you don't breathe anymore because you're on a website that shows people breathing and people just die.

[Joe Getty]

I don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't. It's too much trouble. So I just watch other people breathe on. Breathe, talk and they turn blue and keel over. Breathe. Where to?

[Joe Getty]

God, it's just such a good example. Because if that can happen, anything can happen. You wouldn't have to go back very many years and if you said to somebody, I'm going to invent something that's going to make people not want to have sex anymore. Like what in the hell that possibly be? Or I guess even there's going to be a cultural change where people no longer desire sex. Not possible. Certainly for men, but apparently it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

18 year old men will not be looking for beer, not be looking for a girl. They won't even have any interest in it. And I'll think, what the hell happened?

[Joe Getty]

You know what I want what was

[Jack Armstrong]

in the water supply. What, what war happened, what radioactive pulses were unleashed.

[Joe Getty]

Michael Hansen. Just because I really like Ben Sass and he's gonna be gone soon. I want that last thing that's weird as a drop for the rest of our time doing this show.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just a bittersweet little tip of the

[Joe Getty]

cap to the guy because that is weird. That's weird.

[Jack Armstrong]

Speaking of weird, do you actually want to talk about the space aliens thing?

[Joe Getty]

I do.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right. All right.

[Joe Getty]

I do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Because it's one of the few things I've changed my mind on big topics I've changed my mind on in my lifetime and I've completely changed my mind on this topic.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it's not just that shiny objects fascinate you.

[Joe Getty]

Over here. Over here?

[Jack Armstrong]

No. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Trump and Obama both talking about space aliens within 48 hours, among other things.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

That'd be incredible. I mean, I mean this is, you know, I grew up and I was, you know, watching like the X Files. Now if he's going to release all the X Files, I mean, I think that could be a bipartisan thing to finally realize what, what's happening. So for me now, if President Trump is going to release everything, I think that's fantastic because I think America, I think in the world would deserve if the such Senator Fetterman of Pennsylvania responding to the news that Trump's going to unclassify some documents around Area 51 or aliens or some BS UFOs.

[Jack Armstrong]

How did the truth is out there.

[Joe Getty]

Who started this? So did Obama started on the podcast the other day and then Trump responded to it or did Trump announce it doesn't really matter?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I'm into this story, big picture into it, because it's one of the few things I've changed my mind on in my life. But this part of it's dumb. But anyway, here's a rundown of what's happened in the last couple of days. The President is accusing former President Barack Obama of revealing classified information when he told a podcaster, aliens are real. Here's that Obama comment, and then President Trump responding to Peter Doocy today.

[Jack Armstrong]

Are aliens real?

[Joe Getty]

They're real, but I haven't seen them. And they're not being kept in, what

[Jack Armstrong]

is it, Area 51.

[Joe Getty]

Area 51. There's no underground facility. Unless there's this enormous conspiracy and they hid it from the President of the United States.

[Peter Doocy]

Well, he gave classified information. He's not supposed to be doing that.

[Jack Armstrong]

So aliens are real.

[Peter Doocy]

Well, I don't know if they're real or not. I can tell you. He gave classified information. He's not supposed to be doing that. He made him. He made a big mistake. He took it out of classified information. No, I don't. I don't have an opinion on it. I never talk about it. A lot of people do. A lot of people believe it. Do you believe it, Peter?

[Joe Getty]

Well, the President can declassify anything that he wants to.

[Peter Doocy]

So if you want to make an announcement, I may get him out of trouble by declassifying.

[Joe Getty]

So before we get to the real conversation about this, because the. Is there life on. Anywhere else in the universe but on planet Earth? Is an interesting question.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of course. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

This conversation is stupid. What was Barack Obama. What was he doing there? What was he. Why did he say that?

[Jack Armstrong]

I just responded to a question. He said, yeah, they're probably life out there, but I haven't seen them and no, we don't have them.

[Joe Getty]

He didn't say probably. He said there are. So there are aliens, just not. They're not at Area 51. Why'd you say R?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I felt like he was working too hard to pretend he'd never heard of Area 51. Practicing for sort of a Candace Owens style show. Maybe someday in the future.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was a good start. Yeah. And then just asking questions.

[Joe Getty]

And then Trump's thing was just a shot at Obama. Right. Trying to make him uncomfortable with the whole he released classified information or whatever,

[Jack Armstrong]

having been on the receiving end of some good lawfare. Right. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I don't believe for a nanosecond that our government has any information about intelligent life in the universe that they're keeping a secret. Why would they keep it a secret? But anyway, I don't believe that. I'm not concerned about that in the least.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'm certain that there are. What do we call them these days, UAE's or something like that. But they have nothing to do with the space aliens. They're foreign governments. Our own Experimental craft, stuff like that. And I'm 100% satisfied with that explanation

[Joe Getty]

my whole life up until a couple of years ago, although I was a very smugly. Because, you know, you got to do everything smugly. Very smugly. Of course there's life elsewhere in the universe. Only a Poltroon Neanderthal would think otherwise with the number of planets and stars there are out there. I've completely switched gears though. I'm leaning way more toward there is no other life anywhere else out there in the universe. Just based on a lot of reading and scientists I've listened to over the last couple of years and everything like that. And basically the Fermi paradox, which is. That's a tough one to get around. It's a tough one to get around. The idea that takes one to no one. It's very close. Then where are they? Is the Fermi paradox one of the great physicist thinkers of all time who once said that sitting around a lunch table with a bunch of other brilliant thinkers. Well then where are they? If there's, if there ever has been, over the span of time, intelligent life come to be somewhere, how's there never been a blip of noise or any sign whatsoever?

[Jack Armstrong]

My argument with Fermi, which wouldn't last long because he'd look at me like I look at goldfish, I would say, well, it's, it's extremely unlikely, but the universe is vast. And not only where are they, but when were they. So you got them over there ON ZOO Tron 36, 5 million years ago. No, we don't have any idea that it happened. I don't. I'm agnostic on the question, the fascinated by it. But I don't feel like I will ever have enough information to come to a firm opinion.

[Joe Getty]

That is one of the things, the span of time is so long. And if you are of the belief that intelligent life would follow the same trajectory as intelligent life did here on Earth, it's going to destroy itself. It's going to destroy its own planet or themselves with, with weapons or ruining the planet so you can no longer support the life or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

So they get wiped out by a disease. Right, or. Yeah, sure, exactly. Or a damn the meteor.

[Joe Getty]

But Earth's been around for 4 billion years. The blip of time that, that intelligent life has existed is not even measurable really over 4 billion years. So we could, we could kill ourselves off within the next 1,000 years. I don't think we're going to last that long. But next 1000 years and it would be a Blip in time. And that could have happened on other planet. The universe is 13.8 billion years old, I think is the right number intelligent life. And all these other planets could have happened a billion years ago, 5 billion years ago, 8 billion years ago, and burn itself out and there'd be no sign of it. Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. One of my favorite for me, right or wrong then? Or is it a question of, like I was saying, not only where are they, but when were they?

[Joe Getty]

And well, I, I, it just seems hard to imagine that if there is intelligent life, if it's, if it's. One of my favorite thinkers on this says if it's anywhere else, if it's anywhere, if we ever prove it's anywhere, it's everywhere. I mean, if it goes from. It ain't anywhere else on the. It's some unique thing that happened here, whether it's believing God or just the right things came together or whatever, or if you ever discovered anywhere else, well then it's everywhere. I mean, it's all over the place. Not everywhere literally, but so much of it out there. Because obviously these circumstances are replicable, they can be replicated. You would think there would have been some beeps or blips out there from space travel or sending out signals or whatever that we would have picked up on and we never have. And we've got an ability to reach a really, really long way with some very, very sensitive equipment and have never picked up a tiny anything. We also don't have the slightest idea yet why life started, how it started, what caused it to start. Nothing yet.

[Jack Armstrong]

And to our believers who are shouting at the radio, okay, great. I'll concede what you're shouting at the radio, but by what biochemical processes did the Almighty get her done? You can still answer that and still believe in God if you, you know, are of that, that bent.

[Joe Getty]

Remember when Shatner went into space, not as James Tiberius Kirk, but as William Shatner, the 90 year old actor. He went up in one of the rockets recently. Was that one of origin?

[Jack Armstrong]

I think? Yeah, yeah. Do we have that clip that we never played a Shatner from early in the week, Michael, he was making fun of Trekkies, never got to that. But Bill Shatner, one foot in space, one in the grave, he would like that joke, by the way.

[Joe Getty]

He would. He's an astronaut, just like Katy Perry. Maybe we should ask Katy Perry about this. But I remember, I thought it was interesting that when he went up there, he just said it was just so cold and dead. You know, if Your view of there is no life anywhere else. It's almost hard to wrap your head around everything just being a dry, lifeless rock for all of eternity once you leave planet Earth.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a terrifying notion.

[Joe Getty]

It really is.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you're like heading into it, I'd

[Joe Getty]

be like, can I go home? All right, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's hear the great Bill Shatner. There's so much going on in New York.

[Joe Getty]

Comic Con is coming back this year,

[Jack Armstrong]

which means for seven whole days, New York will be known as the city that never sleeps with anyone.

[Joe Getty]

Thank you. Do we have any Trekkies here? All the die hard Trekkies speak Klingon. And for those of you who don't know, Klingon is a language you speak when you want people to know you're a virgin.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, it sounds like he's 40 years old.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe that's why I just looked up. He's 94. He does what he ordered. No kidding. Or whatever he encountered on one of his space travels. Everybody was always joking about him getting the space gun in the grand rear from all the hotties that he hooked

[Jack Armstrong]

up with, banging that green girl. I think she gave him some sort of special, you know, green girl love potion.

[Joe Getty]

And he's 94. Biden hasn't sounded like that since he was 64. Yeah, that's wild. He sound. He doesn't sound the least bit old. He sounds exactly like he sounded on a 1966 episode of Star Trek.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good gracious. He's beaten the clock somehow. He's. He may be immortal.

[Joe Getty]

We need to start stop looking for life and other planets and try to figure out why William Shatner's holding on to youth so well.

[Jack Armstrong]

It doesn't age.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's a big question.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm curious to hear. 47, Michael, is this from the movie or. No, this is from News Report.

[Joe Getty]

When we made it, myself and everyone who participated in it hoped that it would set the stage for a sitting president to tell the world we're not alone in the universe and begin the disclosure process. And here we are just three months after the film came out. So couldn't, couldn't be more pleased.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, that's. Dan Farrow is the producer of the Alien movie Age of Disclosure. Trying to get somebody to rent it or something by drawing our attention to it.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I don't know that this is true, but it sounds like it could be true. Does the anti God, anti religion crowd really, really want there to be life on other planets? Because it makes it so much more difficult.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gosh, I Don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know either.

[Jack Armstrong]

That could be.

[Joe Getty]

But my reason for believing that we are the only life is not for religious reasons. Although if it turns out we are the only place that life has developed, you really gotta wrap your head around that. I mean, why? What. What's going on there?

[Ben Sasse]

That's weird.

[Joe Getty]

I agree, Ben Sass. That is weird.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would think God would want to diversify, though. Diversify and buy the dip and, you know, all the other conventional wisdom. I don't know. I'm going to start three planets and, you know, tweak that one a little.

[Joe Getty]

You're right. Even if you go with we're God's chosen planet in the universe. Why, why only. Why only Earth? What's the point there?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's a theological answer for it, but the thought plickens. All right, one more 41 for me. I wanted the basics of what Obama said. Are aliens real?

[Joe Getty]

They're real, but I haven't seen them. And. And they're not being kept in.

[Jack Armstrong]

What is it, Area 50?

[Joe Getty]

Area 51?

[Jack Armstrong]

There's no underground.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, he just stayed.

[Jack Armstrong]

What does he know?

[Joe Getty]

Well, exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't believe for an effing minute.

[Joe Getty]

I think that's why gums flapping is him just stating, well, they're real. Like, obviously. I. You know, I've seen the pictures.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've.

[Joe Getty]

I've attended an alien autopsy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Barack Obama's also full of crap. I just think he's. He also, you know what? Honestly, he's got a really good sense of humor. Yeah. If he was not so sanctimonious, he'd be a pretty likable guy. I think he was just trying to be provocative with some wacky podcasters. Sure. And I am not constantly amused by talk of space aliens like the rest of the media.

[Joe Getty]

No, I'm not either. I'm not either, except in the, you

[Jack Armstrong]

know, the more cerebral way we've been knocking it around here. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And then always the thing that Stephen Hawking pointed out, that if we do believe there's intelligent life out there, why are we, like, raising our hands up, putting out beacons? Hey, we're over here. Anybody powerful enough to travel through space, you're clearly more advanced than us. We're over here, right? We're like fat little pigs that you

[Jack Armstrong]

can slaughter to eat or keep as pets. Come investigate us. What an idiotic thing to do.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'd say that's what the Incas

[Jack Armstrong]

had called out to the Spaniards. Hey, we got so Much gold over here. What are you waiting for?

[Joe Getty]

Women everywhere. Come on over. Enjoy yourself.

[Jack Armstrong]

No immunity to smallpox, by the way. Well, they probably wouldn't have thrown that in. God. We'll finish strong. Next, Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

So the Supreme Court shot down Trump's ability to wage tariff wars on every country on Earth. $124 billion worth of tariffs were paid in varieties of directions. How that all turns out or what goes on with that, nobody knows really well.

[Jack Armstrong]

And who truly paid the tariffs is another layer of complication.

[Joe Getty]

He just told reporters the Supreme Court ruling is a disgrace. And he's about. And he's about to hold a briefing at the White House and take questions about it, and I expect him to unleash some serious, serious venom toward the six justices that voted for it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I expect him to be sober and restrained in his comments.

[Joe Getty]

So there you go.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that'll be jazzy.

[Joe Getty]

Can you imagine being President of the United States?

[Jack Armstrong]

So.

[Joe Getty]

So one of your biggest economic policies gets shut down by the Supreme Court. You got to figure out how to deal with that and massage it and talk to the people and behind the scenes and at the same time, being updated by Pete Hegseth and whoever else about the aircraft carriers. Almost in place, sir, for the war you're about to launch. While you're getting ready for the State of the Union address on Tuesday, I just. I don't know how anybody does it without dropping dead. And now final thoughts with Armstrong and Gitty. Engage. There you go.

[Jack Armstrong]

Little Trek reference there. You're one of your bastard treks, your ladder Generation treks.

[Joe Getty]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew. There he is. Michelangelo to lead us off. Michael, final thought. Yeah, Jack, I've been thinking about your birthday and you eating cake. I got an idea. You sit down, you eat an entire cake, you make yourself sick, basically, and then you never want to touch it again.

[Joe Getty]

It's like the smoking a whole pack of cigarettes principle.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. Have your cake and puke it, too. Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman, has a final thought.

[Joe Getty]

Katie, mine's along.

[Jack Armstrong]

Puke talk around a pregnant lady is a bad idea. Sorry. No, it's all right, Jack.

[Joe Getty]

Eat the cake. Eat a piece of damn cake for your birthday. That's my final thought. I'm leaning no right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jack, final thought for us. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Tip of the cap to the women's hockey team who beat Canada for the gold medal yesterday. Just the joy they had and the skating around with the American flag and then everybody singing together the national anthem on the the podium. That was freaking awesome. We need way more of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Loved it. Way to go ladies. Way to push around them. Canucker girls too.

[Joe Getty]

And in celebrating American being proud to represent the United States 100.

[Jack Armstrong]

My final thought. Woo you boo goo Correct. You don't know what we're talking about. Listen to the show via podcast. The whole show. Armstrong and Yeti on demand.

[Joe Getty]

The whole dang show. You know, at some point, maybe next

[Jack Armstrong]

week, we got to talk about how the text line is vastly more negative than the email. I wonder why that is. The ease of shooting off hatred versus having to take a minute and write in our email address, type it in, whatever.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. Doesn't text seem more flippant than email? I feel like if I have a serious conversation I have with somebody, I email them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, true.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

What did Marshall McLuhan say? The media is the message or something like that. Anyway, so many people. Thanks for a little time. Go To Armstrong and getty.com drop us a note over the weekend. If you see something we really ought to be talking about, go ahead and send it along. [e-mail] Pick up some Angie Swag.

[Joe Getty]

Will we be a wartime show come Monday? We'll see you then. God bless America.

[Jack Armstrong]

A tale up to Olympians. Alyssa Lou, we celebrate you and the way you sk with joy But I'll echo your tail. So sad but true. You're a harlot. Who is for coming? Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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