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Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Gates.
Joe Getty
Yeti Armstrong and Getty.
Jack Armstrong
And now here's Armstrong and Yeti. God bless all of you.
Joe Getty
Kirk's widow, Erica, who will succeed her.
Jack Armstrong
Husband as CEO of Turning Point, the.
Joe Getty
Conservative youth organization he founded, speaking emotionally about her husband.
Jack Armstrong
But I will miss him. I will miss him so much because our marriage and our family were beautiful. They still are. Erica Kirk saying she would not weigh.
Joe Getty
In on whether the government should seek the death penalty for her husband's accused.
Jack Armstrong
Killer, telling the New York Times, quote, I do not want that man's blood on my ledger.
Joe Getty
Ian Bremmer boasted yet. Excuse me. Gosh darn it, that was going to be good, but my phlegm got in the way. The big Charlie Kirk memorial was yesterday. 200,000 people showed up as watched by, they say 100 million people worldwide. That's mostly the religious element, not the maga element, which I don't think the media has quite caught on to yet. But anyway, Ian Bremmer tweeted yesterday, Erica Kirk displayed great empathy, compassion and leadership. I'd love to see others learn from her example. The United States would benefit. She's something. You know, not surprising. He was absolutely amazing. He was a one in a 10 million. And not surprising that he married somebody who was also pretty impressive.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, sorry, I was deep in thought. What do we want to play next?
Joe Getty
Well, let's get to the big I forgive you line that has gotten so much attention.
Jack Armstrong
That man, that young man, I forgive him. I forgive him because it was what Christ did and is what Charlie would do. The answer to hate is not hate. The answer we know from the gospel is love and always love. Love for our enemies and love for those who persecute us. My husband Charlie, he wanted to save young men just like the one who took his. That young man on the cross, our Savior said, father, forgive them, for they not know what they do.
Joe Getty
So I missed this. I think I knew Charlie Kirk was A very religious man, and that was a lot of what he was doing. I didn't realize that that was most of what he was doing until I saw some of his friends speaking over the last week or so. I saw one of his close friends say, if Charlie could have known that this many people would have been led to the word of Christ with his death, he would have been. He would have gladly volunteered for it. I mean, he was that kind of person, and that's what he wanted to do. So, you know, I think that people who were not in the Charlie Kirk world, certainly the mainstream media, who might not even have known his name until the assassination, have missed the spreading the gospel part of this, as opposed to the he helped Trump get elected part, which is also big. Very big.
Jack Armstrong
Which I think brings us back to the point that conservative America is very, very familiar with the arguments and attitudes of lefty America, because we're surrounded by it in the media and education complex, among other places, where a lot of people on the left, I mean, your blue sky crowd and your Internet activists, certainly, and also your media people, they don't actually know any conservatives or very few. I remember there's a poll that came out recently. I wish I had it in front of me. But that conservatives are vastly more able to describe accurately the point of view of lefties than vice versa. And I think the. The horrific murder of Mr. Kirk and the memorial service and everything that flows from it. I think, if nothing else, the mainstream media, among others, are being forced to confront, oh, that's what these people are. That's what they say. That's what they believe. That's different than the cartoon I'd heard.
Joe Getty
I mean, that whatever. There were 80,000 people in that stadium at the memorial. So many of them with their hands in the air at various points in the style of, you know, religious gatherings every Sunday all across America. That had to be new to a lot of your mainstream media who thought that the whole Charlie Kirk thing was about getting Trump elected in MAGA and arguing about trans and hate.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Hating on gay people or something. At least that's what I heard on Blue Sky.
Joe Getty
Yes.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Speaking of the President of the United States, he said this thing was five hours long.
Joe Getty
So in five hours, you're going to have stuff that's not all about Jesus and turning the other cheek.
Jack Armstrong
An excellent preamble. Yes, indeed. And the president was, at times inspiring and at times WTFing, as he often is. Why don't we start with 45, Michael?
Joe Getty
He did what was right for our nation. And so, on that terrible day, September 10, 2025, our great evangelist for American liberty became immortal. He's a martyr now for American freedom.
Jack Armstrong
And the President went on.
Joe Getty
He was a missionary with a noble spirit and a great, great purpose. He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent, and I don't want the best for them. I'm sor. I am sorry, Erica, but now Erica can talk to me and the whole group, and maybe they can convince me that that's not right. But I can't stand my opponent. See, I find that hilarious. For one thing, I find that hilarious. And we were talking about Kamala Harris's book earlier and how at every point before, during, and since the campaign, she takes the oh, I better not view of everything because she's so scared of doing the wrong thing. Donald Trump is. Is at a memorial where people are crying and talking about Jesus and forgiveness, and he still says, I know I shouldn't say this, but I hate my opponents. Yeah, he is not focused. Grouped to death, I'll tell you that.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, no, no, indeed. And that's actually kind of funny and enduring how he apologized to Erica. Maybe you can talk to me. Maybe you can convince me I hate my opponents. It's probably worth mentioning if, when he was still with us, you had said to Charlie Kirk, hey, you know what? We could have the. The administration intimidate TV networks into taking off people who agree with Trump. He'd have gone crazy, right?
Joe Getty
He just said, no, no, no.
Jack Armstrong
Haven't you heard a word I've said? No, we need to engage. And so, yeah, I hate that. But we talked about that fairly thoroughly an hour or whenever it was. Check your local listings or the podcast notes or something like that. But, yeah, we. We have better ideas. We're in the majority. A lot of you. And I'm saying that not accusatorily, it's sympathetically, a lot of you are convinced that you are in the minority. And maybe you were, like, in your town or in your university or your blue city or state or whatever. But no, in terms of, like, the American people, the same views of humanity and government and free speech and the rest of it, we're in a huge majority. We have better ideas, so we don't need to resort to, you know, unprincipled crap like, you know, you know, violating the principles of free speech and claiming, yeah, they're misinforming people. Let's shut them down. No, we just need to be a better. Do a better job.
Joe Getty
Elon Musk was there sitting next to President Trump. First time they'd been together since. They're falling out. And people made a big soap opera deal out of that. Who freaking cares? But somebody asked Musk a question while he was there.
Christina Quinn
Why was he killed?
Jack Armstrong
He was.
Joe Getty
He was killed because his words made a difference, because he was showing people the light, and he was killed by the dark. And Elon talked about throwing some money, that direction, which obviously could be a very big deal. I don't have any idea where Elon is from a religious standpoint. He did tweet this out yesterday on his own platform. They murdered our emissary of peace in cold blood. Message received. Is there any way to take that other than, you know, you brought a knife to a gunfight sort of talk or.
Jack Armstrong
Well, yeah, I'm troubled by that. I don't know what he meant or where to go from there. Elon is mercurial, obviously. And, you know, speaking of needing some churching up, his quote there about he showed them the light and he was killed by the dark. Well, there's a lovely verse in Scriptures about that about the dark cannot put out the light, light puts out darkness. And, you know, I would direct your attention, Elon, to the fact that there are 18,000 new chapter requests for Turning Point USA chapters. That's more. Well, that's double the extant number of chapters. I mean, it's like going to triple the size of the organization. The darkness has not put out the light. Now, it's awful and horrible that Charlie was murdered and we've lost a unique and valuable voice. But, no, the dark didn't put out the light.
Joe Getty
It'll be interesting to watch this over time if this is a lasting moment that has much significance. Everything he did up to the day he died had great significance. It got Donald Trump elected. I've listened to enough pundits say, oh, yeah, that, that was the difference maker. Without Charlie Kirk, Trump would have not won. So it wasn't the only reason he won. But without Charlie Kirk, he doesn't win. And, you know, that's. That's a pretty big deal.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it is. I would. I hate that. That's like the whole list of things that Charlie accomplished. Well, from a lot of news coverage.
Joe Getty
Yeah. From what I understand from listening to a couple of his friends being interviewed, he'd be more about the, you know, one person, one young man in Oklahoma who found Jesus through his speaking. That's what he cared more about.
Jack Armstrong
Or the tens of thousands of college kids, men and women, who thought, you know what? I'm not going to be afraid anymore. He accomplished that. Never mind who's the temporary resident of the White House. As significant as that tends to be, that's a hell of an accomplishment. It's wonderful. Well done.
Joe Getty
Yeah. I'll tell you one thing he wouldn't agreed with was having an attorney general use the term hate speech like it's a thing and that the government can crack down on it, whatever it is. I mean, that is anti Charlie Kirk within days of its assassination.
Jack Armstrong
Anti ag to hate it. We got more hate speech. Pam Bondi I hate what you said. I hate it. There you go. There's some hate speech. Armstrong and Getty stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom. Hit the town with the ultra durable LG X Boom portable speaker and enjoy vibrant sound wherever you go. Elevate your listening experience to new heights because let's be real, your music deserves it. The future of sound is now with LG XBoom and for a limited time save 25% at LG.com with code Fall25. Bring the Boom XBoom.
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Jack Armstrong
This is not good.
Joe Getty
Come on. Come with me. He's going through the front of the store. Clear the front of the store. There's people in the store. I would rather get the bear out of the store. Have them follow me out. They kind of like poured at each.
Jack Armstrong
Other for a little bit.
Joe Getty
The bear got on top of them. My guys were outside. Luckily enough, they got the bear distracted long enough to get my dog on a leash.
Jack Armstrong
My heart just sank. I got tears in my eyes. I'm tearing up now thinking about it.
Joe Getty
I asked the cop, was that just.
Jack Armstrong
A tranquilizer or did you have to shoot him? And he said, we had to shoot him.
Joe Getty
And I started crying.
Jack Armstrong
Growler Pines Tiger Preserve in southeast Oklahoma says caretaker Ryan Easley died Saturday. Easley was performing an educational demonstration with.
Joe Getty
A tiger he's raised since he was.
Jack Armstrong
A cub when the animal apparently turned on him. The preserve says tours and animal encounters are canceled indefinitely.
Joe Getty
Animals are rising up against us people. We have a bear story and a tiger story. What do we do?
Jack Armstrong
Where do you want to start? The bear running through the Dollar General store in New Jersey. Bargain hunting bear, working class bear. A bear who didn't have a lot of disposable income during these times of.
Joe Getty
Income inequality, a bear likes buying Chinese flimsy crap.
Jack Armstrong
Well, it's a good point. I liked how the ABC News, when they were teasing the story about the tiger thing, said the terrible accident at the tiger enclosure. I'm thinking that was no accident. That was murder. It's not like the the tiger tripped and took the guy out on his knees and he hit his head. No he bit his freaking head off. Literally. But no, he probably did what tigers do. He clamped his jaws down on the guy's throat till he suffocated.
Joe Getty
Like happened to Roy. Yes, Katie, I have to fess up.
Jack Armstrong
For a major mistake that I am.
Joe Getty
Realizing I just made.
Jack Armstrong
I cut out the part of that news story where they said the cause of death has not yet been determined.
Joe Getty
You're kidding. No, that. We need that. I know. That is too good. I blew it. I'm guessing the cause of death was the tiger high blood pressure.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, exactly. When the tiger's fangs were sinking into his throat, he thought, you know, I have nothing to live for. And he killed himself.
Joe Getty
It wasn't prostate cancer. Another Covid victim.
Jack Armstrong
Covid Michael Govid. That's right.
Joe Getty
And of course, this on the heels of me being driven from my campground by a bear yesterday morning up in north of Westport, California, town of 199. And I would like to move there and make it 200 even, because I could live in a place like that. But we're out there camping and in the middle of the night, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Really, really loud next to the tent finally woke me up and I finally got my senses of like. What is that? It's right next to our tent. The bear was beaten the hell out of our cooler until it finally broke the lid open. And there was nothing in there but I think the smell of meat. And then Henry and I screamed and yelled and whistled and shrieked and the bear ran off, I guess is what happened because when I peeked out the flap, the bear was gone, the cooler was a mess, and we couldn't get back to sleep because the bear had been that close to our tent. And we just packed up and left at 4:30 in the morning.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. I had to look up where Westport is because I didn't remember seeing it.
Joe Getty
That's.
Jack Armstrong
That's way up north.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's awesome.
Jack Armstrong
North of Fort Bragg.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You drive that far and you get to be alone. I mean, that's. That's just the way it is with all tourist stuff. You want to go to at least where I live. You want to go to Half Moon Bay?
Jack Armstrong
Sure.
Joe Getty
It's going to be very crowded because everybody goes there. You drive clear up the where I went and there's nobody there. You got the beach to yourself. It's fantastic. Of course you'll be eaten by a bear. The bears, or who we thought they were. So if the bear had tried to get in my tent. Like if I'd had food in the tent, which I almost did. It's after the food. It's not after me. Right? They're not planning to eat people. No.
Jack Armstrong
No. Although, if it comes across you and believes that you're a mortal threat to it, it will slash you with its claws and chomp you with its mighty fangs.
Joe Getty
Right?
Jack Armstrong
That's the problem. It's a misunderstanding. But bears are not good listeners, right?
Joe Getty
God dang it. It took me a while before I had the guts to stick my head out that that tent flap. I know if the bear was standing right there about to breathe the top breath of my head.
Jack Armstrong
Wait, he'll come out. They always come out. Just holes still. Wait.
Joe Getty
That's exactly what I was thinking. A Trump made one of the biggest announcements he's ever made yesterday. It's not getting as much news attention as it should. We'll play that for you coming up. And a bunch of other stuff.
Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
I think we found an answer to autism. How about that? Autism tomorrow.
Jack Armstrong
Holy crap.
Joe Getty
How has this not gotten more attention? The President of the United States announced in front of that thunderous crowd yesterday that we think we have an answer to autism. And here's a little more on that report.
Christina Quinn
Well, the President also talking politics at the memorial service, saying his announcement today on autism could be one of his most important as President.
Joe Getty
We're going to be talking in the Oval Office in the White House.
Jack Armstrong
About.
Joe Getty
Autism, how it happens. So we won't let it happen anymore. I've been bugging everybody over there get the answer to that.
Christina Quinn
So a source with the Department of Health and Human Services tells News Nation that a report found using Tylenol during pregnancy may lead to autism. The President expected to warn women against the use of Tylenol while pregnant unless they have a high fever. Now Ken View, the makers of Tylenol, they have said their research does not find a link between Autism and using the drug during pregnancy. The president is also expected to announce a cancer and anemia drug as a potential therapy for those with autism.
Joe Getty
So Tylenol did not say. Yeah, you're right. Tylenol causes autism. So what are you going to.
Jack Armstrong
Probably does anyway. Yeah, well, you know, we'll research it. Thank you very much. No, you don't get to be involved. Right. They don't send the NFL player who may or may not have gotten his feet in bounds to look at the replay to judge whether he did or not Tylenol. So just settle the hell down. I am really anxious to hear how weighty the scientific evidence is and see what the reasonable reactions to this might be.
Joe Getty
Well, it's. Why is it getting so little attention? Because Trump gets out of his over his skis sometimes and.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, and you got the RFK junior factor. And honestly. And we don't know that that's what this is, but it could be the old half sarcastic saying that if Trump cured cancer, Democrats would come out pro cancer.
Joe Getty
Yeah, there's a certain truth to that. But man, obviously this would be a huge deal. I hope it's true. Be bad news for Tylenol, but I hope it's true. I mean, if we could figure out, yep, this is it. This is like 90% of why autism exists.
Jack Armstrong
Is Tylenol during pregnancy quadruples your chances or whatever. I don't know. My question is, and this ought to be answered fairly quickly, but to do the sort of study that you would need following lots and lots of pregnant women and their use of acetaminophen and autism in their children, when it developed, that would be a years long process. I mean, obviously just, well, you got nine months worth of pregnancy, then you have to wait till they're diagnosed or recognized as being autistic. So was the study already around and they just were willing to publish it or where did this information come from?
Joe Getty
Or is somebody just talking out their hind end? Right, that's the question.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Getty
Okay, different topic. So memorial service yesterday. Very, very nice. All sort of stuff. Charlie Kirk's wife is quite amazing. But back to just the grubby world of the assassination. Dude was a furry.
Jack Armstrong
I heard that.
Joe Getty
He was talking lots about furries with a group of people online playing video games and texted about furries. So. So it wasn't just trans, it was furry also.
Jack Armstrong
Well, yeah, he's an angry misfit with some kinks. Yeah, I don't, I don't know that the particular kinks are that, you know, Significant. But I don't know that they're not.
Joe Getty
No, it's just I did. You know, I'm not exactly sure what makes you a furry. Like. So was he dressing up as an animal or making his boyfriend, girlfriend dress up like an animal or. I don't. I don't know what's going on there.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. And then this other angle, maybe they did the old. You want to do a little role playing? Little bear and. And camper.
Joe Getty
You be the camper.
Jack Armstrong
Bear suit. Yeah.
Joe Getty
You be the camper who's sound asleep, who left bacon in his backpack. I'll be the bear, the hungry bear. Why do you always get to be the bear? Why can't I be the bear once you be the camper? So this from the New York Post. FBI probes, chilling theories, questions behind Charlie Kirk's assassination as online sleuths stir controversy. And they're looking at a bunch of different angles. And one that we have not discussed on the air, although I've heard about it on a couple of different podcasts, is a lot of young people looked at that text conversation that got released. This is while you were on vacation. The text conversation between the shooter scumbag and his boyfriend, girlfriend. And young people say, no way. That's real. That's not the way young people talk to each other. That's not the way they text. And part of it being around, part of it was about the lovey dovey stuff, which I just thought that's because you all you young weirdos don't date and don't know how people in love talk to each other. That's part of that. It sounds weird to you because you've never been in love before. That. I actually think that is part of it, which is sad, actually. So you've never been crazy, head over heels with somebody and you know, and reacted that way. So this does look weird to the outside world when you see those kind of conversations.
Jack Armstrong
We let our sarcasm and ironic detachment go away when we communicate to the people we love. Sometimes we're super duper sincere. That's right.
Joe Getty
Yeah. So that part struck the incel world as strange. I think that was just two people that are in love, but then also complete sentences with punctuation. Young people said, no way. Nobody writes complete sentences and uses punctuation. Which they got a case there.
Jack Armstrong
This is closer to true.
Joe Getty
But that back and forth was something. If you haven't heard it, here it is. That starts with the scumbag shooter texting his trans boyfriend, which means It's a girl wanting to become a boy. Or a boy wanting to become a girl. Whatever. Drop what you're doing. Look under my keyboard. What? You're joking, right? I am still. Okay, my love, but I'm stuck in Orem town in Utah for a little while longer yet. Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle. Still, to be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I'm so sorry to involve you. He, she responds, you weren't the one who did it, right? I am. I'm sorry. I thought they caught the person. So this is at the beginning when his trans boyfriend had heard about the shooting and the killing and had heard that somebody had been caught, which turned out to be that old man weirdo who. Who claimed he was the killer to destroy tracked the police so the killer could get away. That's its own weird story. Who turns out to be a pedophile and is going to go to prison forever as a pedophile. Good, good. But so his boyfriend had heard that and it's like, you're not. You're not the killer.
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Joe Getty
I mean, that is. That is wild, isn't it? You weren't the one who did it, right? I am sorry is his response.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
I also think it's interesting that his plan was I gotta grab my rifle. Still, he must not have realized what this was gonna unleash. Assassinating Charlie Kirk. The There was zero chance there wasn't gonna be such a presence of thousands of cops and FBI agents that you were going to go back to the woods and retrieve your rifle. All right, that was never going to happen.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah. And. And to think that it could be is. Pardon me, but on the topic, it's a very autistic young man thing to think. And he's not diagnosed and, and I don't know if there's any history of it, but, you know, as I mentioned last week, if you look at a couple of videos that he and his family posted online, you get the vibe that he might be on the spectrum.
Joe Getty
Oh, really? I didn't know.
Jack Armstrong
I just wonder. Yeah, yeah, he was super smart, which.
Joe Getty
Also often autistic people are.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And it is a spectrum.
Joe Getty
Sure.
Jack Armstrong
And I'm not making an excuse or anything like that. I'm just saying, to miss something that incredibly obvious. Oh, I'm gonna create. I'm going to perpetrate a super high profile murder in front of thousands of people. I'm going to hide the weapon within. I Think it was just within a few blocks of the university then I'm going to go back for it later. I mean that's just. That is a. A plan that does not react. It does not display a grasp of reality anyway.
Joe Getty
And the.
Jack Armstrong
You know what's interesting to me is people who utterly reject the notion that the murderer or the would be murderer in the case of the Pennsylvania assassin would be assassin of Donald Trump. Yeah, it's an alienated, disaffected, angry young man who wants to make a name for himself. No, it can't. It has to be more than that. No, no, it really doesn't.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I mentioned I was talking to a qanonish. I don't know what you describe this crowd as being, but they're the very online that. I guess Candace Owens is putting this out there. The killer. It was clearly the. The Mossad killed Charlie Kirk and the CIA. CIA and FBI are in on it and framed this kid around it.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, because of his staunch, never ending support for Israel. They had to end his life. Seriously, Candace Owens is a kook. So she is, she is a savvy exploiter of people.
Joe Getty
She is a kook. But isn't there. I guess you talked about this a week or so ago with like doomsday cults because I was going to say, isn't her Runway getting pretty short?
Jack Armstrong
Oh no, that's. That's the whole. Go ahead, sorry, finish your thoughts of.
Joe Getty
Coming up with various things that could be. And then they don't ever pan out. I would think at some point you just. You lose all credibility.
Jack Armstrong
Right? You would. But that's the skill set. That's. That's a great description of what they do. So. Well, they invent scenarios to explain the non fruition of the old scenario and then they explain how those insidious bastards figured it out. They got this and none of it is falsifiable. You can't prove or disprove any of it.
Joe Getty
Like the.
Jack Armstrong
That's the key. I mean if you could, then it. The. The jig would be up.
Joe Getty
The person I was talking to is talking about Cash Patel's testimony last week and how obviously he was lying and what a terrible liar he is and all that in an attempt to cover up what's actually going on here for Israel. Covering up for Israel. I guess.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I don't. One of these days maybe I'll design one of those. Just as a mental exercise. It'd be fun. It's like writing a soap opera.
Joe Getty
See if you can move people In.
Jack Armstrong
No, I, I wouldn't want to do that because I'd prefer to do good, not evil. Depending on your view of the show. You know, maybe you think I'm actually doing evil. Yeah, but it's, it's, it's, it's just an intellectual exercise. It's like writing a never ending plot.
Joe Getty
Do you think it's as easy as it looks? Because it looks really easy and it's just the fact that you got to be kind of evil to do it that keeps it from not happening more often.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I think so. I, I don't think it's super hard, but it's like music. I mean, you could write one of these and it would be thoroughly competent, but people wouldn't get caught up in it. Or you could be a Paul McCartney type who, you know, writes melodies that people sing for till the end of time. It's, it's a gift to design a conspiracy theory that strings along a certain personality type and, and I'm sure there are really good books written about this and, and how it works. Exactly.
Joe Getty
So you think Candace Owens is closer to the Paul McCartney of conspiracy stuff.
Jack Armstrong
But she's made a handsome living at it. Sorry, sir Paul to drag you into the.
Joe Getty
She at least the Ringo.
Jack Armstrong
Or should I have gone with Ringo? She's reasonably skilled. She's very smart lady. Yeah. And I remember doing an event with her in Napa, California. Yeah, we did spouted the mainstreamish conservative line and her awakening to what was right and what's wrong with the world, it was really well done.
Joe Getty
I thought she was an up and comer as who she legitimately was. A successful black woman who had fought against the, you know, the bull s. I'm being held down by my race and gender and yeah, because we were in the green room with her for a long time and I thought that's fantastic because she decided to go a different direction and has become probably quite wealthy this way.
Jack Armstrong
Oh yeah. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Guaranteed it wasn't the Jews that killed Charlie Kirk, by the way. It just, it just wasn't. It doesn't make any sense. We will finish strong.
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A group of tech and media giants, including Larry Allison and Lachlan Murdoch, will be involved in taking over TikTok's algorithm. It comes as Press secretary Caroline Levitt told Fox News that a deal between the US and China will include Americans holding six of the seven seats on a new board overseeing TikTok's US operation. Trump extended the TikTok ban's deadline for.
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Joe Getty
Extended with no authority whatsoever. And Congress just says, okay, but anyway, that's its own thing. The TikTok world. We had a funny guest. You did. You missed on Thursday, a hilarious guest from CBS to talk about Tick Tock. And he was a really good. He was a really interesting dude. I ended up talking about a lot of stuff, but I'm on. I started asking about. Technically. He said, I don't really know. I don't, I don't. I'm not into Tick Tock. It's not my thing. You're the CBS reporter for the Tick Tock deal. Yeah. I said, do you have Tick Tock in front? He said, no, I don't do that sort of stuff. I'm not into social media.
Jack Armstrong
So what do you know? But you liked him, huh?
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah, he was very likable guy didn't know anything about that particular topic.
Jack Armstrong
I will seek out the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand, huh? You can go back to old episodes. Speaking of Asians, Jack, you know what? I'm going to do it like this. We're going to this. This is fun. This is. This is. This is real life. We have not prepared this. I'm going to mention a business and you tell me the first couple of things that pop to mind. 711.
Joe Getty
Necrophilia. Come on.
Jack Armstrong
Come on.
Joe Getty
Slurpee.
Jack Armstrong
Slurpee.
Joe Getty
And what.
Jack Armstrong
What do people buy at a 711 Slim Jim?
Joe Getty
Slurpees. And lottery cards.
Jack Armstrong
Right. And smokes. That's right. Well, the Japanese parent company of Seven Eleven, who knew they had a Japanese parent company, is betting billions of dollars that it can expand its business in the US by making its convenience in the US More like they are in Japan. Specifically In Japan, the 711 stores have lots of pretty damn good quality prepared foods.
Joe Getty
Oh, really?
Jack Armstrong
You don't get a Slim Jim. You get a really good egg sandwich or something like that.
Joe Getty
I would like that. That'd be fantastic.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. In Britain, they've got similar stores that Judy and I hit all the time.
Joe Getty
If you are in line behind somebody in a convenience store in the United States, 90% of the time they're getting two of these three items. Energy drink, lottery tickets, cigarettes. That's not good.
Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Jack Armstrong
Those foods, those stores rather were called Pretty Manger or Ready to Eat. Hey Britain, you won it. Waterloo. What are you letting your businesses got French names for, huh? Ready to eat. Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show. Michelangelo, lead us please. Okay. I've become that guy. I've. My team is undefeated in the NFL.
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Joe Getty
I'm not going to wash the shirt.
Jack Armstrong
I'm officially superstitious. I'm sure your wife would think, well, it was clean when you wore it the first time. Maybe that's part of the magic. So why don't we clean it right? Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman has a final thought. Katie, I'm going to be keeping my eye on the news today with this whole Tylenol autism announcement, of course, big time. If they're.
Joe Getty
There's much science behind it. That'd be such a huge deal.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, I got my skeptical hat on. But I'll keep an open mind, certainly. Jack, a final thought for us.
Joe Getty
I hate the UN and everything that it is about, but there are some damned interesting issues before the United nations this week. And Trump is going to speak before the General Assembly.
Jack Armstrong
Meaningless debating society. My final thought is. Sorry about ducking out on the show last week, but I was planning golf with some good old friends who I hardly see anymore and it was just absolutely fantastic. Life is all about the people in it. Reach out to those old, old friends that you don't talk to.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
He wanted to save young men just like the one who took his life. It is better to face a gunman than to live your life afraid to speak the truth. And we are going to have a great reunion there again with Charlie. That man, that young man. I forgive him.
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Date: September 22, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
In this episode, Armstrong and Getty deliver an in-depth, reflective, and at times darkly humorous discussion about the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination, its impact on conservative and religious America, and the complex media and cultural narratives spinning from the tragedy. The hosts dissect forgiveness in the face of hate, explore reactions from key public figures, and take a sardonic look at conspiracy theories, the mainstream media, America's political rifts, and the bizarre cultural frays revealed after such a seismic event. The second half of the episode shifts toward levity, featuring wild animal stories, retail culture, and quirky personal anecdotes, anchoring the show's characteristic blend of thoughtful commentary and irreverence.
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote / Context | |---------------|-------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:53 | Erica Kirk (via Armstrong) | "But I will miss him. I will miss him so much because our marriage and our family were beautiful. They still are." | | 05:16 | Erica Kirk (via Armstrong) | "That man, that young man, I forgive him...The answer to hate is not hate...the gospel is love and always love." | | 09:39 | Trump (via Getty) | "He did not hate his opponents...I hate my opponent, and I don't want the best for them...I'm sorry, Erica..." | | 13:09 | Joe Getty (on Musk) | "They murdered our emissary of peace in cold blood. Message received." | | 14:11 | Jack Armstrong | "The darkness has not put out the light...it's awful and horrible that Charlie was murdered...but the dark didn't put out the light." | | 29:17 | Jack Armstrong | "To do the sort of study...following lots and lots of pregnant women and their use of acetaminophen and autism in their children...that would be a years long process." | | 38:20 | Jack Armstrong | "It's like writing a soap opera." (on the constant reinvention within conspiracy theory circles) | | 40:26 | Joe Getty | "Guaranteed it wasn't the Jews that killed Charlie Kirk, by the way. It just, it just wasn't. It doesn't make any sense." | | 45:41 | Jack Armstrong | "In Japan, the 711 stores have lots of pretty damn good quality prepared foods..." |
For listeners seeking context, clarity, and unvarnished reaction to one of the year’s most controversial national tragedies, with trademark Armstrong & Getty irreverence, this episode is essential listening.