It's Usually Starfish But You Have Crabs

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Episode Title: It's Usually Starfish But You Have Crabs
Release Date: December 5, 2024

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Introduction

In this compelling episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into the heated political landscape shaping America today. From border policies and media biases to landmark Supreme Court hearings on transgender laws, the episode offers a thorough examination of contemporary issues affecting the nation. Joined by guest Tom Holman, the discussion navigates through complex topics with fervor and insightful commentary, providing listeners with a nuanced perspective on the challenges and debates defining 2024.

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1. Border Policy and the Trump Administration

The episode kicks off with guest Tom Holman addressing the current state of border enforcement and the anticipated policy shifts with the upcoming Trump administration. Holman expresses strong support for President Trump's plans to overhaul immigration policies, emphasizing a return to "real work" in border management.

Tom Holman [03:25]: "This whole world's upside down under this administration. That's why I'm very excited about President Trump taking back the White House January 20th."

Holman outlines his proactive stance, already collaborating with Texas Governor Greg Abbott to address immigration challenges ahead of Trump’s presidency.

Tom Holman [03:32]: "We're already working on fixing this problem. So can't wait for January 20th till we can actually get started."

He criticizes the current administration's handling of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), highlighting record-low removal numbers despite a historic immigration crisis.

Tom Holman [03:56]: "Under the Biden administration, ICE has the lowest numbers of removals in the history of the agency, even though we have a historic crisis."

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2. Media Bias in Reporting Deportations

Armstrong and Getty shift focus to media representations of immigration, particularly criticizing national outlets like NPR for their portrayal of deportation policies. They argue that mainstream media skews public perception by presenting deportations predominantly as negative, neglecting the majority of Americans' support for such measures.

Joe Getty [05:26]: "They actually on NPR today had a pregnant woman from Central America someplace. So she's pregnant and trans. They mentioned at the end a pregnant trans woman who might be deported under Trump's plan."

The hosts contend that media outlets ignore statistics indicating widespread public approval for deportations, thereby fostering a narrative that contradicts the majority's stance.

Jack Armstrong [05:43]: "It's just because it's like principal, but I think it's just nutty ideology that you wouldn't just say, hey, the vast majority of Americans think this on this topic."

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3. Supreme Court Hearing on Tennessee Transgender Law

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the Supreme Court's oral arguments concerning Tennessee's law banning gender-affirming treatments for minors. The hosts and Holman dissect the legal and ethical dimensions of the case, expressing skepticism about the scientific support for such treatments.

Tom Holman [28:00]: "The plaintiffs are saying that the 14th Amendment, which demands equal treatment under the law, also applies to this question because it's about sex."

Holman criticizes transgender treatments, labeling them as "cruel experiments" and arguing that they lack substantial scientific backing. He references international studies and critiques the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) for promoting these practices without adequate evidence.

Tom Holman [35:09]: "Alito cited extensive research from European countries showing otherwise, including a study from a Swedish medical board that concluded the risks of transgender treatment outweigh purported benefits."

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4. Gender-Affirming Treatments for Minors

The conversation intensifies as the hosts debate the implications of allowing minors to undergo gender-affirming procedures. They challenge the validity of studies claiming reduced suicide rates among transgender youth, pointing out methodological flaws and the potential for biased data.

Jack Armstrong [37:14]: "It's based on a study and I remember we looked into this a couple of years ago but I re looked it up again. It's a study in the history of 27 self-selected trans people that had more problems quite possibly than the average trans person."

Holman highlights personal testimonies and detransitioners' lawsuits to argue against the current medical practices, asserting that these treatments cause lasting harm without clear benefits.

Tom Holman [40:43]: "There should be hundreds of people heading for jail on these cruel experiments on children. It's shocking that the ideology, the radical gender theory ideology is so infiltrating our universities and some state houses that we permitted this to happen at all."

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5. Final Thoughts and Crew Reflections

In the concluding segment, Armstrong and Getty invite reflections from their crew, encapsulating the episode's overarching themes of political frustration and societal division.

Katie Greener [47:47]: "Grateful I am to have a job where lines like why do your bowels have an English accent? Are dropped."

The hosts express a sense of inevitability regarding America's political trajectory, acknowledging the persistent challenges while advocating for continued advocacy against policies they oppose.

Joe Getty [48:21]: "It's been significant. And the mainstream media does such a horrible job on this."

Jack Armstrong compares societal resistance to ideological shifts to the classic story of crabs pulling each other down, emphasizing the need for collective action.

Jack Armstrong [48:54]: "Because for an individual person, it's kind of like the crabs on the beach story. You help that one."

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Conclusion

Armstrong & Getty On Demand delivers a robust exploration of pressing political issues, blending direct commentary with strategic critique of media narratives and legislative actions. Through their discussion with Tom Holman and subsequent reflections, the hosts present a perspective that calls for stringent immigration controls, scrutinizes the legitimacy of transgender medical treatments for minors, and highlights perceived biases in mainstream media reporting. This episode serves as a substantive resource for listeners seeking insight into the contentious debates shaping America's future.

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Notable Quotes

• Tom Holman [03:25]: "This whole world's upside down under this administration. That's why I'm very excited about President Trump taking back the White House January 20th."
• Joe Getty [05:26]: "They actually on NPR today had a pregnant woman from Central America someplace. So she's pregnant and trans. They mentioned at the end a pregnant trans woman who might be deported under Trump's plan."
• Jack Armstrong [05:43]: "It's just because it's like principal, but I think it's just nutty ideology that you wouldn't just say, hey, the vast majority of Americans think this on this topic."
• Tom Holman [28:00]: "The plaintiffs are saying that the 14th Amendment, which demands equal treatment under the law, also applies to this question because it's about sex."
• Tom Holman [35:09]: "Alito cited extensive research from European countries showing otherwise, including a study from a Swedish medical board that concluded the risks of transgender treatment outweigh purported benefits."
• Katie Greener [47:47]: "Grateful I am to have a job where lines like why do your bowels have an English accent? Are dropped."
• Joe Getty [48:21]: "It's been significant. And the mainstream media does such a horrible job on this."
• Jack Armstrong [48:54]: "Because for an individual person, it's kind of like the crabs on the beach story. You help that one."

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This detailed summary encapsulates the essence of the episode, providing an accessible overview for those who have yet to listen while preserving the depth and dynamism of the original discussions.

Transcript

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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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[Tom Holman]

I don't understand why this administration lost their minds. I mean, we're at the point now with this administration where it's someone who enforces the law. ICE officers, they're the bad guys. But those who broke our laws, they're the victims. This whole world's upside down under this administration. That's why I'm very excited about President Trump taking back the White House January 20th. I'm waiting. I'm not waiting to start my job. I'm already meeting with Texas Governor Abbott. I'm here in Dallas, Texas. I go to Arizona tomorrow. We're already working on fixing this problem. So can't wait for January 20th till we can actually get started. Started doing the real work.

[Unknown]

The great Tom Holman going to head up the border forces, among other things, the Trump administration, he's essentially saying, cut the crap. And it struck me the similarities between what he was saying. They've hit America with such a blizzard of ideology and slogans and stuff that now the law enforcement guys who are bound by very strict rules and regulations, the Constitution, the rest of it, they're the bad guys and the criminals. The Venezuelan gang members, those are the victims. I mean, we've got, I think the sane among us have been so snowed by all this ideology that, like, people who say there's no actual difference between men and women, we're thinking, yeah, I keep hearing that maybe I'm wrong about this. No, you're not wrong.

Well, that's insane on the border stuff. I was going to do a rant about NPR today after I was listening to them talk about the deportation plans and stuff like that. And guess what direction they came from on that story. I was going to say hey, you listener out there. If you come across anything other than Fox and News Nation that presents the deportation story in even a neutral way, let alone in a positive way, since 60% of America approves of it, you could, you know, you could get away with presenting it in kind of a positive way as the NBC Evening News. But every news outlet is presenting the whole deportation plan as a horror, even though 60% of America wants it. Isn't that something?

It is. And that just goes to show you how powerful ideology is that. They might call it principle, but I think it's just nutty ideology that you wouldn't just say, hey, the vast majority of Americans think this on this topic, so let's do some reporting that reflects that, more or less.

They actually on NPR today had a pregnant woman from Central America someplace. So she's pregnant and trans. They mentioned at the end a pregnant trans woman.

Oh, for goodness sakes.

Who might be deported under Trump's plan. I thought, you've got to be kidding me. And I was thinking, they can't defund NPR fast enough.

Yeah. Wow. You folks are npr. You're making parody impossible. You're going to put the Babylon Bee out of business. You're such a parody of yourselves. Anyway, Tom Holman had one more thing to say, though, that I thought was significant. 93, please. Michael.

[Tom Holman]

I'm finding out today a lot of these children, 300,000 missing children, that they didn't even take fingerprints of the sponsors that they supposedly, you know, vetted. So it's going to be a daunting task. I'm hoping the records maintain. I'm hoping. I know Jim Jordan reached out and told him to maintain the records. I doubt that's going to happen. It's going to be a difficult task. But ICE is very good at what they do. Under the Trump administration, they removed record amounts of criminal aliens. Under the Biden administration, ICE has the lowest numbers of removals in the history of the agency, even though we have a historic crisis. So it's going to be hard work. I got 20,000 men and women that are very good at this. We're going to work very hard to find as many as we can and at the same time rescue these children.

[Unknown]

Boy, in the Bob Woodward book, when they got into the part about how the Biden administration was dealing with this behind the scenes, when they realized it was a crisis, not because they were, you know, cared about America, only when it became a political problem. But he, he described it, Woodward described it as one of the biggest migrations in World history, what happened during the four years of the Biden administration. And it's true, statistically, it's one of the biggest migrations of human beings on planet Earth in the history of the world.

So one aspect of this that's going to be really interesting and extra feisty is how ICE and the feds interact with various governors and mayors and especially of these so called sanctuary districts. I'd love to see the Supreme Court take a look at that, but Alexis McAdams was on special Report talking about this the other day. We'll do 90, Michael, and then pause.

I would like to speak with our borders. We can work together. I want to sit down and hit.

[Will Friedle]

A plan that's in stark contrast to Democrats in other sanctuary cities like in Chicago, where Mayor Brandon Johnson says he'll fight to stop deportation even after the city has spent more than half a billion dollars on the migrant crisis. Now he's floating a $60 million property tax hike to help pay Chicagoans blasting Johnson calling him the worst mayor in America. Trump.

[Unknown]

Tom Holman, please come here first.

[Will Friedle]

Because you know what? We gonna help you, the people of.

[Unknown]

Chicago, we're done with you.

The first voice you heard was Eric Adams in New York saying, hey, Tom Holman, come, we'll work together. And then that, let's go. Brandon Johnson, the lunatic Marxist teachers union ho in Chicago is saying the opposite. Now, the next part of Alexis Report was the part that really, really caught my ear. Listen to these numbers, please.

[Will Friedle]

This outrage comes as Fox News digs into some shocking numbers from ICE which shows that out of the almost 8 million migrants who have crossed in the US illegally, nearly 9% are convicted criminals or have charges pending. And more than 58,000 migrants with criminal records are out in the streets of New York City.

[Unknown]

Almost 60,000 known criminals in New York City alone. And you're racist if you say, hey, some of these people that are coming over, we don't, we don't want them in the country for years and years.

I feel like we still haven't gotten to the conversation that we need to get to at some point of how many people do we want every year from where? With what skills does that ever happen? Do we ever have that conversation? Because that seems like the grown up way to handle it. Let's come up with a number because it could be a pretty large number that we need. Oh, the other thing they did on npr. This is the reason I was all fired up today. The other thing they did on npr, and I just caught the end of it. I wish I had caught the beginning because I don't know where the study came from. A study shows that Americans will actually lose jobs with the deportation of illegals. And I thought, how did you twist statistics to come up with that?

Oh, yeah, yeah, give me 10 minutes. I could come up with a story.

We do need lots of people to do work for a variety of reasons, some of which I hate culturally. But how many from where, with what skills and what's the process going to be? Let's come up with something and at.

What cost, because the people of Chicago, and it's remarkable. And one has to, you know, or you know, your mind goes back to the changes in the demographics of the votes where more and more black people are becoming Republicans. Now it's still a minority, but it's more. And some of the residents of Chicago, it's been encouraging because ideology doesn't matter to them anymore. Or I should say, partisanship doesn't matter to them anymore because in their neighborhoods, in their schools, on their streets, the reality of policy has become so stark, they can't ignore it anymore. Here's a woman at the Chicago City Council member lighting up. Mayor Brandon Johnson, 94.

[Will Friedle]

So what they want to do, what I believe my mayor is doing, is attempting to use the social and political captions of my interview to advance the immigrant community. And we've been seeing this since the 1800s. Frederick Douglass warned us about this years ago. And so now we're here. We're a much more informed and enlightened people and we are America first. I am an 8th generation American, so I'm extremely invested in making this country great, as is everybody else in my community. Please don't racialize this deportation fight. Know that every American is in lockstep with this because we deserve to spend our money in better ways. Christmas is coming. Why should we have to pay extra in taxes?

[Unknown]

Giant new property tax to support migrant centers. Come on again. When the rubber meets the road. During the Trump administration, some of these jurisdictions actually defy federal law. Here we go. That'll be interesting.

Yeah, well, so before we take a break, they've released some new photos of the assassin of the CEO of United Healthcare. And the conversation continues of is this some sort of like paid, highly trained professional assassin or kind of a lone wolf nut job? Well, listen, the newest pictures that come out, I think they're from when he stopped at Starbucks, which is an interesting thing to do as an assassin. You know what? I think it's steady the hands of a had a latte real quick so he goes into the Starbucks and he's got a. He's a good looking guy. Looks like he could be the next bachelor if this weren't such a horrific crime. And he's got a big smile on his face.

He takes his mask down and.

So does that mean he's got to be either like the coldest of professional killers or completely nuts?

I. I don't understand why, as a professional killer, you would want to complicate.

Your life by stopping at Starbucks.

Well, no. Well, doing everything you just described.

Your points are about to expire. You just realized it. Oh, jeez, it's Tuesday. If I don't order something, I lose, I lose my points. Well, it's just I can't come up with a reason that you got. I think you'd have to be. I think it means he's a crazy person.

Or stupid.

I suppose he could be just stupid.

Yeah.

How are you that smiley, though? That's. That's like. This is minutes before he murders a guy in cold blood.

Yeah.

You're definitely pretty unbalanced if you are not. I mean, I can see. I think we've all thought about circumstances under which we would have to take another human life. And while it would be necessary and justifiable, it would still be heartbreaking, sickening in most cases. Ask any cop who's had to do that for the first time. But to be smilingly ordering a coffee and showing your face. Yeah, that's not a cold blooded pro killer.

Yet. He had a plan to get away, it would seem. I mean, he headed straight down the street and then took a ride and was off into Central park and everything. And. Yeah, I don't know. I'm still leaning.

There are a lot of brands of crazy. They don't all include, you know, being so psychotic. You can't say, you know, an E bike would be a good way to get away from the scene.

Right, right, right, right, right. Interesting. Now they're certainly worried in New York. One of the reasons it's getting so much coverage in New York is it happened in New York and there's a killer on the loose who's willing to gun down business people and cold blood on the street in the middle of the day, so.

And who knows? Maybe he's got a list.

Yeah, right. Because we don't know what was motivating him.

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So when he kept saying things like, oh, you know, nobody's above the law. I respect, you know, the jury's decision in regards to my son. He didn't believe that, but he didn't have to volunteer that lie to begin with.

[Will Friedle]

I'm gonna stop you for a second.

[Unknown]

Uh oh, only because you don't know that it was a lie.

[Will Friedle]

We don't know why he changed.

[Unknown]

You really think he just changed his mind over Thanksgiving weekend all of a sudden? No.

[Will Friedle]

I'm going to tell you what I think.

[Unknown]

I think he changed his mind because he got sick of watching everybody else get over. That's what. Why can't you say when Democrats are wrong? And why can't Republicans say when Republicans are wrong? When Democrats are wrong? No, I don't.

I had nerd that. I've never listened to Charlamagne the God. All I've heard is. What you've heard is the clips we paid on this show. But I like the cut of his jib. We don't agree on our politics, but at least he's an honest guy. Him saying to Whoopi Goldberg, why can't you say when Democrats are wrong?

Yeah.

And then she says, blah Blah, blah. And he says, that's ridiculous.

Yeah, it is ridiculous.

Good God. I try really hard to not do that. I try really hard to not do. Trump does all kinds of things that I think are insane or wrong, but I still prefer this.

Can't even call out Biden on this crack, right?

Give me a break.

Oh, on that topic, listen to this, would you? This is from the good folks at News Busters. They did an analysis of PBS NewsHour. You're just talking about NPR before. Enjoying my tax dollars and yours. Let's see. PBS NewsHour is 27 times more likely to use the term far right than the term far left.

No way.

Yeah, I know. Yeah.

By the way, did you see Trump's going on Meet the Press Sunday as the bravest president in terms of interviews, maybe ever. He's going on Meet the Press for like a full half hour or 45 minutes with Kristen Walker. That's the network that just, you know, tried to destroy Pete Hegseth with a whole bunch of unnamed sources and stories. He goes at the person that makes him the angriest. That's just the way he's built.

Yeah, DeSantis does that, too, brilliantly. But PBS used 162 variations of far right labels and six for far left, 162 to six. They also used the Mirror, the softer right wing and left wing at levels, labels at a disparity of 33 to 6. So overall, the labeling disparity was 195 to 12.

Right. Well, if you want to keep doing that, go ahead. You'll keep getting people like that you don't like, like Donald Trump elected. If you're going to keep pretending we aren't on to you.

Right. Although I think some of them are so delusional, they're actually not aware of it.

I know people like this personally in my own life.

So. Yes. Or there's so much like lack of cognitive dissonance in their heads or something. I don't know how to describe it exactly, but they're aware it intellectually. But it is so mystifying to them that more than half of America disagrees with them vehemently. They can't process it. I've got this editorial by a college, I think he's a professor, and he says, I can't conceive of why someone could support Donald Trump. That's why I need to talk to them. You know, it was well said.

I never thought about this before, but people I know who are way right wing, like way more right wing than me. Like I think into the kind of crazy territory, call themselves right wing and know they're right wing. People I know who are left wing. Like into the crazy territory left wing think they're moderates.

Yes.

The right wingers I know know they're right wingers and are proud to call themselves right wing. The super left wingers I know think they're just middle of the road.

Yeah. Correct.

Isn't that weird?

Yeah. For instance, people in into radical queer theory, radical gender theory, there's no real difference scientifically between a man and a woman. I How can you tell me what a woman is? I'm not a biologist. Those people think they're mainstream. They're lunatics.

By the way, Hanson, got to mention this to you. They are having a hearing about the whole Secret Service Trump almost being assassinated thing. Trump assassination attempt hearing goes off the rails as shouting match erupts between Acting Secret Service Director and GOP rep. So you might want to check in on that. Anson, see if he can get us the audio.

Now we're talking. Coming up in moments, highlights and lowlights of the oral arguments before the Supreme Court court yesterday involving the Tennessee law that outlawing cruel experiments on confused adolescents who think they're the other sex. Really interesting stuff. Stay with us if you can. If you can't, grab the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand Armstrong and Getty.

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[Will Friedle]

Doctors being forced to provide this medication. These are doctors who are wanting to treat their patients in the best way that they know how based on the best available evidence to us. And these are young people who may have known since they were two years old exactly who they are, who suffered for six, seven years before they had any relief. And what's happening here, it's not the kids who are consenting to this treatment. It's the parents who are consenting to the treatment. And as a parent, I would say we. When our children are suffering, we are suffering. And these are parents who love their children, who are listening to the advice of their doctors of the mainstream medical community and doing what's right for their kids. And the state of Tennessee has displaced their judgment.

[Unknown]

Most of that was irrelevant, and the rest of it was fictional.

Yeah.

As I often say, people don't offer crappy arguments because they're keeping their good ones safe for later. It's because that's all they've got. That is one of the lawyers, a mustached young woman who presents as a man, Chase Strongio, who was arguing against the Tennessee law that was before the Supreme Court yesterday.

It took my fifth hearing of that to catch on to the fact that she changes their argument in the middle of it. Because at the beginning, it's. The kids know at age two that they're a different gender and live in, you know, horrible circumstances for many years before they get the care that they need, the relief. She said, first of all, why would you get relief?

Why?

What were the. I'm. Even if I believe this is happening to a particular kid, where would the relief come from? Now you've had your penis lopped off, why is it giving you relief?

Fed powerful chemicals, hormones, chemically castrated, as it were. But why would that give you Tennessee law? Because now you get to be a girl and you look like a girl. I just find that hard to believe.

That that would happen.

But anyway, somewhat like a girl.

Anyway, she's making the argument the kids know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then she says the parents are making the decision. So it's not like the kids are making the decision.

We.

You just said the kids are the ones that know. So the parents are listening to the kids. Well, in effect, they've made the decision then.

Yeah. There are so many tangents we could run down on this case. But to stick to the main part of it, the plaintiffs are alleging that the state of Tennessee and By extension, the 25 other states that have returned to sanity, who've said no, you can't conduct these unsubstantiated, experimental, unsupported by science treatments of confused adolescents anymore. It's. Well, as you know, the headline Naxios was Supreme Court seems likely to uphold banned on gender affirming care. And Riley Gaines tweeted, supreme Court seems unlikely to uphold banned on unregulated or seems likely to uphold ban on unregulated child abuse. There, fixed it for you. Ideological extremists conducting cruel experiments on children. That's what's happening. But anyway, the plaintiffs are saying that the 14th Amendment. Slow down, Joe. The 14th Amendment, which demands equal treatment under the law, which was based entirely on race, also applies to this question because it's about sex. And as in race, where there's what's called strict scrutiny of any, any discrimination on race because racial animus is primarily irrational. And so if a law differentiates between, say, black people and Mexican people or black people and white people, you gotta have a really, really good reason you can prove is true. The case against Tennessee rests on the idea that there's no rational difference between men and women. That's not a thing. It's a social construct, which is a, an idea of philosophy that would have been laughed out of every court on earth up till about 10 minutes ago. And 10 minutes from now, it'll be laughed out of every court on earth again. But during this bizarro moment of radical gender theory having its day and these poor little kids, these poor little confused kids. Anyway, so they're saying, no, there's no real difference between men and women. So we should have the same strict scrutiny clause applied to. If a little boy can get testosterone because he's got some testicular problem, for instance, well, then a adolescent girl who thinks she's a dude should be able to get it too. Otherwise it's sex discrimination. And that goes against the 14th Amendment. It's a load of crap.

I definitely want to hear my favorite clip from yesterday.

All right, Jack, we'll, we'll do that for you. Why not? Colin, taking your request. Supreme Court hit line. This is. Oh, this is Matthew Price, who's one of the Lawyers for Sanity joing with Sonia Sotomayor, who has lost her flippant mind. 43. Michael cannot eliminate the risk of detransitioners. So it, it becomes a pure exercise of, of weighing benefits versus risk. And the question of how many minors.

Have to have their bodies irreparably harmed.

For unproven benefits is one that is best left. I'm sorry. Counselor, every medical treatment, treatment has a risk. Even taking aspirin, there is always going to be a percentage of the population under any medical treatment that's going to suffer a harm.

So the question in my mind is.

Not, do policymakers decide whether one person's.

Life is more valuable than the millions.

Of others who get relief from this treatment? The question is, can you stop one sex from the other? Yeah. The idea that even aspirin has risks. What are you talking about? You cook there.

What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.

Yes.

Everyone in this room is now dumber.

For having listened to it.

That's Chief Justice. May God have mercy on your soul. That's Chief Justice John Roberts responding to Sotomayori's colleague, which was historical.

I mean, may God have mercy on your soul.

It's not, by the way, it's from what movies are from.

That's Adam Sandler. He's in school. Waterboy.

One of your Adam Sandler movies. Anyway, back to sort of my arm. I would quibble on millions of people who've gotten relief from these treatments. I don't think so.

Yeah, you sniffed it out. That's one of the key phrases in there. And God bless Samuel Alito, who lit into the lawyers. And let's play part of 45, Michael. We'll cut it off because it gets boring. But on page 195 of Cash Report, it says there is no evidence that gender affirmative treatments reduce suicide. Okay. And there's more to that.

[Will Friedle]

I think that is referring to the.

[Unknown]

Lady man lawyer answers that, but badly. Stop it, Michael. And then Kavanaugh says, lady man lawyer in 46.

If it's evolving like that and changing and England's pulling back and Sweden's pulling.

Back, it strikes me as, you know.

Pretty heavy yellow light, if not red light for this court to come in, the nine of us and constitutionalize the whole area when the rest of the world, or at least the people who the countries that have been at the forefront of this are pumping the brakes on this kind of treatment because of concerns about the risks.

What he's saying is you want us to impose a constitutional ban on banning these procedures based on the 14th Amendment, when the whole world is going in the other direction. Even if you got an argument that seems crazy, and it does. But Alito absolutely tore into the Solicitor General, Elizabeth Preligar, who is arguing in favor of the Biden administration or for the Biden administration in favor of these cruel experiments on confused children. He tore into the idea that it often results or always results in better outcomes or even close to it. Alito quoted Preligar's petition to the court claiming overwhelming evidence supports the notion that puberty blockers and hormone treatments improve the well being of adolescents confused about their sex. The Solicitor General's statement parrots common left wing advocate talking points about this sort of thing. To counter Preligar, Alito cited extensive research from European countries showing otherwise, including a study from a Swedish medical board that concluded the risks of transgender treatment outweigh purported benefits. Also, he also referred to the United Kingdom's CAST review which you heard there, which found little evidence to further the viewpoint that the benefits of transgender treatment are greater than the risks. So what you're talking about is an unscientifically unsupportable experiment treatment on children that the rest of the world is running from as fast as they can. And Tennessee has said no, no, this is not good. Our legislature elected by the people says no, you can't do these experiments on kids anymore. And the Biden administration, these activist groups want the constitution to stand in the way of protecting the children. May God have mercy on their souls.

So the great club threat that the trans community has, or trans activists rather has been the whole suicide thing. You want your kid to commit suicide, you want to have a dead son, well then don't give them the gender affirming of care that they need.

They actually say that to terrified parents sitting there in the office.

And it's based on a study and I remember we looked into this a couple of years ago but I re looked it up again. It's a study is the history of 27 self selected trans people that had more problems quite possibly than the average trans person as they were picked for this people taking apart this study said participants were not randomly selected. This will mean that trans people who have had experienced the most difficulties in life may be more likely to be suicidal than the average person out there. The risks artificially increased the percentage of the participants with a suicide history. We don't know when these suicide attempts occurred among these 13 out of 27 people. I mean that's a very small sample size anyway. Sure. But other data from the study shows that, sorry, some or all may have occurred after social and or medical transition and may not reflect the true suicide risk if trans children are not supported in transition. So they don't even know if the suicide attempt was before they got the gender affirming care or during or after.

In other words, this study lends zero wisdom to the discussion. It's useless. It's. Well, it's the opposite of useful. It's actually damaging the discussion.

We're also not told if these 13 young trans people who considered suicide consider themselves gay or straight. Other data from studies show that people who identify as lesbian, gay or bisexual are almost twice just as likely to have attempted suicide than people who are straight. So just in general, it's higher for people in the, for whatever reason, in the gay community.

Yeah. You cannot cite this study for anything. It's not even a study. It's, it's, it's. You would, you would get a D in middle school science for this so called study. It's, it's utterly, utterly fraudulent.

Anyway, they point out a horrible thing to do. I mean, this is not just your line about climate change or something like that. Oh my God. To sit parents down and say your kid is going to kill themselves unless you have them undergo these amazing treatments.

To that point, several detransitioners were actually there at the court yesterday and have been doing interviews, raising their voices to describe how they are rushed into permanently scarring transgender operations when they were mentally distressed teenagers. Some detransitioners have filed lawsuits alleging medical practitioners, practitioners wrongfully pushed them to undergo treatments with lasting consequences such as infertility and sexual dysfunction without any addressing their mental health situation. Also worth mentioning, Missouri gender clinic whistleblower Jamie Reed came forward with allegations last year that her facility in St. Louis was pushing severely disturbed minors into life altering treatment with little interest in alternative options. The New York Times later substantiated Reed's allegations which played a major part in red state legislation to prevent minors from receiving transgender medical operations. And the leading medical organization pushing for the transgender treatments is the World Professional association for Transgender Health wpath, a group that internally observed the experimental nature of transgender operations and patients lack of awareness for their consequences in their own paperwork that's been, you know, seen and discussed.

How much of the, how much of the progress, using my finger quotes that the, the transitioning children's world has made was due to these suicide threats being, I think a lot of it too.

It's been significant.

And the mainstream media does such a horrible job on this. I mean it's one thing that I lost straws, plastic straws in my town because a 9 year old faked up statistics about plastic straws and turtles. But the mainstream media ran with that and printed it like it was a study done by Johns Hopkins over decades and did the same thing with something much more important with this, this is a tiny, sketchy one time all kinds of problems with its study, but it drove this whole conversation over the last half dozen years.

There should be hundreds of people heading for jail on these cruel experiments on children. It's shocking that the ideology, the radical gender theory ideology is so infiltrating our universities and some state houses that we permitted this to happen at all. It's unthinkable and Europe is ahead of.

Us in figuring out that this was unthinkable. We'll finish strong Next Armstrong and Getty.

[Will Friedle]

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I'm not sure there's any value in congressional hearings whatsoever. Maybe if they weren't on tv, if they were behind closed doors, which obviously has its problems because there's only so much grandstanding. But you got the House, particularly Republicans, wanting to grill the Secret Service on how Donald Trump almost got assassinated. Dang. Good question. Still, lots of things need to be answered. Answered. I guess it broke down a little bit. Let's hear it. Special Agent in charge of the detail. Were you the special agent in charge of the detail that day? Actually, let me address this. Could you please staff, leave that. Oh no, leave that one up with the circle around me. Thank you. So actually Congressman, what you're not seeing is the sack of the detail off out of the pictures view. And that is the day where we remember the more than 3,000 people that have died on 9 11. I actually responded to ground Zero. I was there going through the ashes of the World Trade Center. I was there at Fresh Kills.

I'm not asking you that.

I'm asking you Congressman, the state to show respect for our Secret Service that died on 9 11. You're trying to be. Do not invoke 911 for political purposes. On that not I'm invoking this war, sir.

You are.

I like to ask him a quick please don't bu elected member of Congress and I'm asking you a serious question and you. I am a public servant who has served this nation and you won't answer question on our day, on our country's darkest day. H I'd need to hear what led up to it because the congressperson obviously brought up 911 first which at when, when the Secret Service guy started yelling about I thought what are you doing? Trying to lean on the.

Oh.

But the congressperson brought it up first in some context.

Need some context.

I would need to hear that.

Final thoughts with Ang.

Yeah, yeah. They were pretty hot there though. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap things up for the day. First of all, our technical director, Michael. Go ahead, Michael. What's on your mind? I'd like to see more of that in Congress. More yelling and screaming and maybe an occasional fist fight. Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah, boy. Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie, I just want to say how.

Grateful I am to have a job where lines like why do your bowels.

[Will Friedle]

Have an English accent?

[Unknown]

Are dropped.

I forgot that.

Because they're sophisticated. Jack, do you have a final thought for us?

You know what? I think I come to some calm, happy place where I'm just accepting that our politics are really bad and probably not going to get better. We're never going to attack the deficit. America is going to be in decline for the rest of my life and my kids lives and it's just what it is and nothing I can do about it. I'll fight it inch by inch but I'm just going to accept it.

You know, my final thought was going to have to do with the whole gender bending madness and the children who the poor confused adolescents who and autistic often who are victims of this ideology. That stuff we can change and I would encourage you to join us in the fight to change it. The radical ideologies. And I've got lots of evidence that are just absolutely. Our schools are soaking in it. We feel like we're making progress, but man, education is a cesspool of it. That fight is still going on and to the extent that we can win it, we're going to help a hell of a lot of people.

Yeah, that's why I want to continue fighting it inch by inch. Because for an individual person, it's kind of like the crabs on the beach story. You help that one. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

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Starfish don't say that.

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This is a message for the people of America. I've spent every day of my career thinking this is the last day.

[Sabrina Bryan]

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[Unknown]

I got nothing for you on that. All of a sudden your bowels say, well, good morning all. I'm feeling excellent about the day and there's something I would like to accomplish now. Go poop in a bucket, you beasts. I'm slightly amazed by the general attitude of all of you here.

Bye bye.

[Will Friedle]

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