I've Got A Memory Like An Old Man

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "I've Got A Memory Like An Old Man"

Release Date: March 19, 2025

Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Ryan Seacrest

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1. Return of Astronauts from the International Space Station

The episode kicks off with a discussion about the recent return of Boeing astronauts who spent nine months aboard the International Space Station. Jack Armstrong reflects on the personal sacrifices made by astronauts, highlighting missed life events. At [03:59], Armstrong shares, "I missed most of my daughter's senior year of high school... missed her sister's wedding." The hosts delve into the emotional and familial costs of extended space missions, emphasizing the human aspect behind space exploration.

2. Chuck Schumer Addresses Rising Anti-Semitism

Transitioning to political discourse, the hosts examine Senator Chuck Schumer’s recent appearance on The View, where he expressed concerns about the rise of anti-Semitism in the United States, including within his own Democratic party and among college students. Armstrong notes at [04:44], "Chuck Schumer is an ancient Democratic senator from New York who has been majority leader in the Senate... he's the minority leader." They discuss the implications of his statements and the broader societal issues surrounding anti-Semitism and political polarization.

3. Taxation and Wealth Redistribution Debate

A significant portion of the conversation revolves around taxation, wealth redistribution, and political ideologies. Armstrong and Seacrest dissect Chuck Schumer’s stance on taxing the wealthy, touching upon the philosophy that those who have benefited most from national wealth should contribute more. At [07:00], Seacrest cites Thomas Sowell: "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned, but not greed to want to take someone else's money."

They debate the merits and drawbacks of government intervention in wealth distribution, with Armstrong articulating sentiments often echoed by conservatives: "I made my money all by myself. How dare your government take my money from me." Seacrest counters by highlighting the role of businesses in creating jobs and providing essential services, framing successful businesses as modern-day charities with employees and community impact.

4. Ukraine-Russia Conflict and US Involvement

The hosts provide an in-depth analysis of the ongoing Ukraine-Russia conflict, focusing on the recent phone call between former President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Drawing from various news outlets, Armstrong summarizes ABC’s take at [30:25]: "Vladimir Putin did not agree to the unconditional US backed 30-day ceasefire plan that Ukraine already signed onto."

Seacrest brings insights from diplomatic sources, explaining that negotiations are still in the early stages with significant hurdles. They compare the current situation to historical peace talks, citing the Carter- Begin-Sadat negotiations as a possible model for eventual success despite initial challenges. Armstrong emphasizes public support for US involvement, referencing a Gallup poll: "USA not doing enough is at 46%. It's up 16 points since December." This statistic underscores the public sentiment that the US should be more proactive in supporting Ukraine.

5. Public Opinion and Polling on US Foreign Policy

Further exploring public opinion, Armstrong highlights a Gallup poll indicating that approximately 70% of Americans believe the US is either not doing enough or is doing too much in its foreign policy, particularly concerning Ukraine. At [38:48], Armstrong states, "USA doing too much is 30%. Doesn't mean you're wrong, but you're in the minority politically right." This segment underscores the polarized views within the American populace regarding the extent of US involvement abroad.

6. Commentary on Kanye West’s Recent Activities

Shifting gears, the hosts discuss Kanye West’s latest endeavors and public behavior. Armstrong critiques West’s recent song featuring his daughter North and his controversial tweets. At [44:44], Armstrong remarks, "Kanye's on a roll... He's still going right now. They're all caps, all capital letters." Seacrest and Armstrong analyze whether West's actions stem from genuine intent or mental health struggles, with Seacrest asserting, "He's a mentally ill man." The conversation touches on the intersection of celebrity, mental health, and public perception.

7. Future Topics Teased by the Hosts

In anticipation of future discussions, the hosts tease upcoming topics such as "Trump versus the courts," exploring potential constitutional crises and the ongoing tension between the executive branch and the judiciary. Armstrong mentions, "Mega Woke" and wrestling matches between the executive branch and the courts, indicating a continued focus on political and social issues.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong [03:59]: "I missed most of my daughter's senior year of high school... missed her sister's wedding."

• Ryan Seacrest [07:00]: "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned, but not greed to want to take someone else's money." – Thomas Sowell

• Jack Armstrong [08:25]: "I made my money all by myself. How dare your government take my money from me."

• Ryan Seacrest [38:48]: "USA doing too much is 30%. Doesn't mean you're wrong, but you're in the minority politically right."

• Jack Armstrong [44:44]: "Kanye's on a roll... He's still going right now. They're all caps, all capital letters."

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Conclusion

In "I've Got A Memory Like An Old Man," Armstrong and Seacrest offer a robust discussion covering space exploration's personal costs, political figures addressing societal issues, debates on taxation and wealth, the complexities of the Ukraine-Russia conflict, public opinion on US foreign policy, and the intriguing behaviors of a high-profile celebrity. Their engaging dialogue weaves together current events with socio-political analysis, providing listeners with comprehensive insights into each topic.

Transcript

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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Boeing astronaut who are stranded at the International Space Station for nine months finally return to earth right now. They're the first people in history to honestly text someone, sorry, just saw this. Yeah, they were up there for nine months. Or as the two astronauts put it, there's three of us now.

[Cindy Crawford]

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[Jack Armstrong]

I heard one of the astronauts, you know, talking about the good and bad of it. And like you said last hour, you're an astronaut. You're, you've worked your whole life. You want to go into space, you get to stay in space longer. I'm sure in general, that's pretty awesome. But he said, I missed most of my daughter's senior year of high school. I wasn't planning on that, but. Yeah, and they're not going to say this out loud, but there had to be plenty of things. They're looking on the calendar, missed her sister's wedding. Not a bad deal. You know, things like that.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Maybe high school couldn't help you with the taxes this year in space.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. Certain things like that probably didn't mind. So Chuck Schumer was on the View yesterday. He's making the rounds because he's got this book out which I actually heard.

[Ryan Seacrest]

A little bit about.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm glad he wrote it. And it's kind of interesting. He's worried about the rise of anti Semitism in the United States, including in his own party among your college kids. And he's out talking about it. So that's kind of cool. Chuck Schumer is an ancient Democratic senator from New York who has been majority leader in the Senate at various times. Now he's the minority leader.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He is the king of the Senate on the Democrat side.

[Jack Armstrong]

So he got some blowback Last week because he went along with the Republican legislation that kept the government open. And the AOCs of the world, that wing, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, those people wanted to shut down the government. Chuck Schumer said there was no win in it. And Nancy Pelosi yesterday said she kind of hit him with a little. She still supports him, but I don't believe in giving something away for nothing. She said after that, in that Chuck went along with it but didn't get anything, which is true. Nancy Pelosi was good at that. Trump's good at that. If you're going to get something from me, I'm going to get something from you. Always.

[Ryan Seacrest]

If only they knew what they wanted. Really.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe that's a problem.

[Ryan Seacrest]

They're so scattered.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, didn't mean to talk about that. So he's on the View and he said something that really bothered me. So we'll start here, the Republican Party. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't want that yet. Where we're start with, remember Jerry Brown? So we're going to start here. This, this goes back to the governor of California a few years back. Four term governor. He was the youngest governor of California for two terms. Then he was the oldest governor in California for two terms. He did date a young Linda Ronstadt.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Which is a feather in his cap.

[Jack Armstrong]

You can't take that away from. Yeah, but he once said this about the way economics works.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I guess those who have been blessed the most, who have disproportionately extracted by whatever skill, more and more from the national wealth, they're going to have to share more of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's on the idea of paying taxes that those who have disproportionately extracted from.

[Ryan Seacrest]

The economy more from the national wealth.

[Jack Armstrong]

From the national wealth.

[Ryan Seacrest]

So success is taking money from the nation. It's not creating jobs and money and products and greater wealth for everyone. No, it's a, it's a limited pie. And you took more than your share by building a successful business.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and it's not yours, it's the nation's. And the steward of that money is the government, which we get to here with Chuck Schumer on the View when he said this yesterday. The Republican Party is a different kettle of fish than it used to be. And that's why we're fighting them so hard. They are controlled by a small group of wealthy, greedy people. And you know what their attitude is? I made my money all by myself. How dare your government take my money from me. I don't want to pay taxes or.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I built my company with my bare hands. How dare your government tell me how.

[Jack Armstrong]

I should treat my customers. The land and water that I own, or my employees, they hate government. Government's a barrier to people, a barrier to stop them from doing things. They want to destroy it. We are not letting them do it and we're united. So again, if you missed that in there, these greedy people who make money, who want to keep more of their money, their attitude is, I made my money all by myself. How dare your government take my money from me.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, well summarized.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so that's an interesting philosophical breakdown. I know, I know people personally who believe that and think that way that you're out there going to work making money. I guess for the government. It runs through the government and then you get to keep some of it, but it's the government's money to spend on, you know, good things that make everybody better, happier or something like that.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And other people will, through the government, take your money from you as much as they decide is proper and they will let you keep some of it. Perhaps, as the great Thomas Sowell said so famously, I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned, but not greed to want to take someone else's money.

[Jack Armstrong]

I found that absolutely fascinating. I mean that, that is some big time philosophical disagreement on the structure of society. Yes.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And I would love to reduce our politics now and again. Maybe we could have one week a year where we have learned folks of, you know, each side's choosing debate in front of the nation. The notion of either a what you earn is yours. Now we the people ask you for a little bit of it to help.

[Jack Armstrong]

Run the country, roads, police, army, etc. Etc.

[Ryan Seacrest]

But indeed we have passed laws saying the government gets a little bit of it to, to run itself versus the folks who say no, the government gets all of it. If we decide to take all of it, it's not your money at all and never has been.

[Jack Armstrong]

That goes back and then I would.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Love then in the follow up part, my side would, would say, well then why the hell would anybody bust their ass to build a business if y'all are going to take it all or.

[Jack Armstrong]

Half of it, which is why socialism doesn't work. Should have dug up the Barack Obama clip, the famous one that he got beat up for a fair amount by anybody on the right. Anyway, you didn't build that. It's the idea that government has put in place a structure for you to go out and Be successful. And so you owe that money to the government because they, they, they, they put all this together for you to be successful. The government is the reason you're successful. That's what Chuck Schumer saying.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Building a business with 500 employees is like falling off a log thanks to the government. So we get most of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, he used his mocking voice when he said, I made my money all by myself. How dare your government take my money from me. Okay, I'll say the same thing in my regular voice. I made my money all by myself. How dare the freaking government take it from me. There, I said it without the mocking voice because that's what I actually believe.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I understand how a leech on the public like Chuck Schumer, who, like, you know, Joe Biden or a thousand other politicians on both sides of the aisle have made their wealth and their power purely from draining the vital fluids of the American people. How product, actual production is foreign to them. I'd love to have Mark Wayne Mullen talk to Chuck Schumer about that. Mark Wayne Mullen, who built a. He was a plumber. He built a plumbing contracting business in Oklahoma, became. He's a senator now from Oklahoma. If you don't know, Mark Wayne talked to him at the rnc. It was great fun and very interesting. But have him discuss with Chuck Schumer what it takes to build a business as opposed to just, you know, again, being a parasite on the hide of the American people.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's something. I mean, that, that I find that highly troubling that that attitude even exists out there, let alone could win the day.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Well, yeah, the fact that Chuck Schumer promotes it is not that shocking to me. The fact that tens of millions, hundred, 150 million Americans think the same way. Now, that bothers me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I made my money all by myself. How dare your government take my money from me. I don't want to pay taxes. Yeah, you don't have to use the cartoonish voice. That's what I actually believe. Me and me and lots of people.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And I think virtually nobody says, I don't want to have to pay taxes. No, I don't want to have to pay excessive taxes that are purely a redistribution of wealth to gain you power. Because I know with 100% certainty that's what you do. You make moral arguments and compassionate arguments to get giant gobs of money to enhance your own power and influence.

[Jack Armstrong]

First of all, if you keep your money, sometimes people do things that are really good for society. You know, build a rocket company or or charity or whatever it is. But what if you just go out and buy expensive houses and cars if you're super wealthy? For what? For whatever reason, it's kenzie. And when the government spreads money around because it's just good spending money. But if an individual spends money, it's not kenzie and not good for the economy.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I don't know is fine with me. Signed everybody who worked on building that house and or car and or services it and or fixes that house or.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whatever or on the restaurant and has employees.

[Ryan Seacrest]

My final note on this topic will be something I've said many times through the years and will continue to if you will allow me. You good people. Imagine a charity that can feed, clothe, house, medicate and educate thousands of children. Thousands of children. That charity is called a business with employees who get pay and benefits. You have accomplished all those things I described by starting a successful business. They don't see it that way. On the left.

[Jack Armstrong]

I made my money all by myself. How dare your government take my money from me. I don't want to pay taxes. True. That is true.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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Have a number of big topics to get to. Trump and Putin, Trump versus the courts. We're already socialists in medicine and much more, but thought we'd pause and enjoy this. Got a note from. And I got a memory like an old guy. I wonder why. From Juliana, who. Who writes, I'll see your theory of water, and I raise you future lesbian dance theory professors and their. Their graduate degrees and their theses. So that was referring to the featurette we did. UC Berkeley's lecture series included some woman lecturing about the theory of water. And it was some of the most meaningless, ridiculous woke mumbo jumbo we've ever heard in our lives. So she thinks she can do better. These are the graduation videos by. I think they're. I think they're graduate degree students. Like masters.

[Jack Armstrong]

Almost certainly.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Yeah. Let's. Let's hear it. Michael.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hi, my name is Nikki.

[Cindy Crawford]

I'm studying Latin American women in visual culture.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Hi, I'm Melanie.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm studying the unseen body and creative.

[Cindy Crawford]

Spaces, Erasure and Exposure of the queer.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, I'm Nina, and I studied the.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Arts, education and social distancing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'm Joyce.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I study decolonial intimacies, Indigenous politics of resistance. Victoria and I studied Remembering or Forgetting.

[Cindy Crawford]

Navigating International Conflict through Collective memory.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'm fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

I study Monstrosity.

[Cindy Crawford]

The Subaltern practice.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or should I say I created it?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hi, I'm Nunyala.

[Cindy Crawford]

I'm studying Living Artfully, Art as Ritual Therapy and Pathway to Decoloniality.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Do we have jobs for that?

[Cindy Crawford]

Yeah, it's called Starbucks.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, are those written down anywhere? Because I couldn't quite understand this. Okay, good.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Indeed. Yeah. Ready to go? First one. I'm studying Latin American Women and visual culture. Okay, let's see. Rolling along. I'm Melanie. I'm studying the unseen body and creative spaces of erasure and exposure of the queer.

[Jack Armstrong]

Darry.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Do we have jobs for that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's called Starbucks.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Do we have jobs?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's called Starbucks.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, I'm Nina, and I studied the arts, education and social justice. Okay. I'm Joyce. I study decolonial intimacies, indigenous politics of resistance. Okay. How does intimacy come into it? I study remembering or Forgetting, Navigating International Conflict or Collective Memory. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

And can you. Is it like a whole degree? I mean, if it's a class, I would think. Okay, that's made up.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's. It's. It's. It's like a PhD where you have your Thesis and you flesh it out and all it's it. And it can be something weird, but.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, but I mean you'd have to dedicate a lot of time.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh yeah, and a hell of a lot of money. And a lot of these people get taxpayer monies and their schools do certainly. And they're all in.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you write a paper that gets published in a journal that nobody reads and you all congratulate each other on your published papers and each other's journals that nobody has ever read.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And you go into academia and as Julianne put it, you become a future lesbian dance theory professor. I like this one. Yeah, I'm Iman and I studied the theory of monstrosity, the subaltern practice. Or should I say waiting Waiting or should I say I created it and she's laughing so she just made s up that fit the woke, you know, word salad, you know, paradigm that her, her school allows and then just invented and then just got a PhD in it. Hi, I'm Nanyala. I'm studying living artfully. Art is ritual therapy and pathway to decoloniality.

[Jack Armstrong]

Really big in decolonizing and not just trying to do the classic how are you going to make a living? But how do they intend to make a living? Do they all just, all those people intend to stay in academia?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Or they'll run a d A DEI office at some poor stupid corporation that fell prey to neo Marxism because they were terrified of activists or they're just, you know, run by dopey people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that academic world is interesting. You can get those niche like studies and then you all plan to just stay in that world and then teach the next crowd of 20 somethings the same sort of stuff. And it just, it grows and more money goes to it and it just becomes all sillier and surely we've reached about the end of the road on this.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, you wait till Democrats are in the White House, then you get enormous grants to study all of that mumbo jumbo we were just discussing and then go to Abram X Kendi's short lived institute.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Human safari. That's why they call it. And it's just. And the, it would seem the point of is it just kind of chasing you around is, is to terrorize, to make everybody very afraid. Stay in your home, not be able to function as a society, be more likely to give in to whatever demands there are from Putin to end this war. But that's probably the future of warfare, you know.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. And worse. Yeah, I've been reading about micro drones forever that will fly in swarms that will be imperceptible individual drones. They'll be tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny. You might be able to see a cloud of something, but they will literally fly into the lungs of the opposing forces and set off little detonations that'll kill people instantly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's a different thing. This thing, I think it being big enough to see is the point of it to make everybody so scared. You see these things flying around town.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Dropping dead with exposed, exploded lungs. That'd be plenty frightening.

[Jack Armstrong]

So let's get a couple of different perspectives on what went down yesterday between Putin and Trump on the phone call. Here's something you might not know. It's been described various lengths in various settings that I took in this information yesterday anyway, from an hour to two hours I hadn't heard this. So Putin was doing an event yesterday, public event, like taking questions and talking to people while he was supposed to be on the phone with Trump. Here's a reporting on that. Putin was meant to be speaking to Trump at this time. He's talking to a room full of oligarchs. Instead he was asked by one of the reporters if he's going to be late for his phone call. Putin waved it off and smiled and said don't worry about that. So kind of I'll get to it when I get to it. Punking the President of the United States and looking cool in front of his oligarch buddies. I don't know if Trump was aware of that or not. I wouldn't think Trump would dig that knowing the kind of guy Trump is.

[Ryan Seacrest]

All right, I wonder if he's aware of it now. Well that's, I mean you don't need to be some sort of body language expert or you know, an expert on corporate governance proceedings, procedures to understand what that, what message that was.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Here's ABC's view of the phone call. After more than two hours speaking directly to President Trump. Vladimir Putin did not agree to the unconditional US backed 30 day ceasefire plan that Ukraine already signed onto.

[Cindy Crawford]

Trump says his call with Putin was.

[Jack Armstrong]

Very good and productive. Adding the Russian leader agreed to move quickly toward a permanent peace. But Putin doubled down on his key demand that the west cut off all military aid and intelligence sharing with Ukraine. So ABC portraying it as did not agree to the ceasefire agreement that Ukraine had signed on to. Here is over on Fox. This is Steve Witkoff. Who is he?

[Ryan Seacrest]

He's one of the lead diplomats who's work in the Middle east and the Russia, Ukraine thing. I think he was the main guy who flew to Saudi Arabia to, to hash things out with the Russian representatives.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here he is on Hannity describing how he sees it went down. The cease fire with regard to energy.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Infrastructure and secondly the, the Black Sea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maritime aspect of a cease fire.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I think both of those are now agreed to by the Russians. I am certainly hopeful that the Ukrainians.

[Jack Armstrong]

Will agree to it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

We have some details to work out of course, but that will begin on Sunday in Jeddah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Beyond that we'll move to a full cease fire and we had some very good conversation today on the ingredients to achieve that. Okay.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Witkoff is engaging in the technique where you say we're absolutely gonna get a deal. Of course we're gonna get a deal. We'll get a deal. It's part of negotiating. Depending on how much power and leverage you have in the negotiation, you put the other person in a box that if they blow it up, then they've blown up an obvious deal. But no, they're, they're miles, ages away from an actual deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's the Dispatch's take on it today. Vladimir Putin agreed to immediately halt attacks on energy facilities on the condition that Ukraine does the same. That is like one of Ukraine's only tools that has done any damage is their ability to attack Russian energy infrastructure. And Putin would like that to go away. Okay, I'll stop attacking your injury. You stop and targeting our end and then I'll just kill people on the street like you just heard and continue to take land and etc.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, we will cease hostilities in any avenue of war where you have significant, not superiority, but just significant power. The stuff where we have significant power, that's the game on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Both Russia and Ukraine accused one another of launching air attacks on infrastructure sites within hours of the call. So that didn't slow anything down. I don't. Do you see anything coming out of this? Can you imagine this going anywhere?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, exactly where Putin wants it to be. Long delays, a partial disarming or constraining of Ukraine while he does what he needs to do to continue his wars of conquest. In the years to come, it will be, it'll be a great deal like negotiating with Kim Jong Un or something. You have, you know, the various statements that, well, we're very close to an agreement, this could be historic, blah, blah, blah, and then it all gets blown up the next week.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do we have any cards? So in a negotiation you got to have some cards. And you know, Trump famously now told Zelensky there in the Oval Office, you don't have any cards. Do we have any cards?

[Ryan Seacrest]

David Ignatius of the Washington Post, who, you know, I don't always agree with, but he is a very, very smart guy and a longtime observer of international relations, writes, President Donald Trump appears far more eager for a peace deal in Ukraine than does President Vladimir Putin, that Russian president. That's the obvious takeaway from Tuesday's two hour call between the two leaders. Trump comes across as an avid suitor in his brief, upbeat readout of the conversation, describing the talks as very good and productive. Putin is more guarded in the longer Kremlin version. Friendly but unyielding on his basic demands. He agreed to a 30 day pause in attacks on energy infrastructure facilities. Ukraine had endorsed Trump's proposal for a ceasefire on all fronts for that period. It highlighted differences more than agreement.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. Well, you know, that happens a lot of times at the very beginning of a negotiation. Again, for the 10th time, I'm reading a book about the Middle east peace talks with Carter Begin and Sadat. And I mean they started as far apart as you could possibly get. The first several days of their 13 day summit that ended up with them all sharing a Nobel Peace Prize. Didn't seem like there was any chance whatsoever they could come to an agreement. But I both sides had something to gain. I don't see, I don't see why Putin would agree to this.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. And if Sadat had already gobbled up 30% of Israel and was gaining ground on the rest of it, he wouldn't have been there. No, no.

[Jack Armstrong]

He thought, we're going to win, we're going to boot him out, we're going to take over all of Israel.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, back to the the Middle east peace talks back in the 70s. Completely different situation in that it would be like if Ukraine had just defeated Russia a couple of times in the last couple of years. Do you want it again? Do you want us to kick your ass again and take more of your country, or are you gonna stop? Ukraine would be saying to Russia the way Israel said to Egypt and the surrounding countries. But that ain't the situation.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. At the same time, your original point remains. Sometimes you seem to be miles and miles apart, and that stuff gets fixed.

[Jack Armstrong]

More.

[Ryan Seacrest]

A little more from David Ignatius in the Washington Post. Putin made maximalist initial demands to prevent, quote, escalation of the conflict. He said the United States and its allies must accept, quote, complete cessation of foreign military aid and the provision of intelligence information to Kiev. Of course, that would make it much, much more vulnerable to devastating Russian attacks.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And Putin, whose unprovoked assault began this war three years ago, painted Ukraine as the villain. The Kremlin account said Kiev had sabotaged and violated past agreements and committed barbaric terrorist crimes in its invasion of the Kursk region and shown an inability to negotiate. Okay, that's rich. Let's see the Wall street editorial board. Putin rejects the Trump ceasefire. The Russians want once. I'm sorry. The Russian wants much bigger concessions that would cripple Ukraine. Trump's call with Putin sing signals long road ahead to Russia. Ukraine deal. The Russian leader did not agree to a full cease fire and presented his own demands to end the fighting. Then the New York Post pointing out, shameless Putin snubs Trump as he plunges Ukrainian city into darkness. Russia left the Ukrainian city in total darkness overnight Wednesday after launching drones targeting energy infrastructure and two hospitals less than two hours after President Vladimir Putin promised Trump he would halt such attacks.

[Jack Armstrong]

I meant to lead with this Gallup polling that came out yesterday just to bolster my own opinion that I want. I want Russia to get booted out and be too scared to ever try this again. And I want us to arm and do whatever we got to do to help Ukraine. That's been my position.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You're a neocon.

[Jack Armstrong]

Still my position. I had a point on this. I don't know, maybe my point will come back, but this polling Yesterday from Gallup. USA not doing enough is at 46%. It's up 16 points since December. Why has USA not doing enough gone up 16 points since December Anyway, if you combine that with the right amount, you're at about 70% between right amount and not doing enough. 70%. So that. So those of you who really hate this, you're. You're definitely in the minority. USA doing too much is 30%. Doesn't mean you're wrong, but you're in the minority politically right.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right. I'd love to talk to JD Vance about all this stuff. Maybe he puts out Hillbilly Elegy 2, the Ukraine Years. Now it's personal or right? I don't know. Electric boogaloo. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is what I was going to say. I hope this the best bet for people like me who want to do more to help Ukraine and punish Russia is Trump gets butt hurt. Trump gets personally offended. Feels like Putin's punking him on the world stage and is like, all right, that's it. That's, that's my hope is that Trump's personality gets wounded and, and, and then that drives him to like, do what we can do.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. It's kind of sad, but that would get it done. Yeah, yeah. And that may be the only thing that gets it done. Putin is an incredibly skilled, manipulate manipulator of human beings. He's working hard to make that not happen. Although that, you know. Yeah, don't worry about it. I'll get to the call when I get to it. Thing in public with the oligarchs. That was interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, we got a lot more on the way. There's something I wanted to tease. It was really good, but I don't.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Remember what it was, so I'll tell you what. Hour three for me. One thing I really want to get to is Trump versus the courts. Is it a constitutional crisis? The Chief justice admonishing the president? What does it all mean if you can get away from the Mega Woke? Mega Woke. It's some pretty interesting wrestling matches going on between the executive branch and the courts right now worth taking a look at.

[Jack Armstrong]

And there's another poll out about people's attitudes on the whole dudes and women's sports. How long you gonna fight this battle anyway? Stay here.

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[Cindy Crawford]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Kanye west dropped a new song over the weekend featuring his daughter north and Diddy. Kanye put his 11 year old daughter on a song with well, if there's one guy you want working with your kid, it's Uncle Baby Oil for sure. And Kim Kardashian, who's the mom, was really unhappy about that. And then I read something about trying to get a judge to something. I don't know if that actually ever came to anything. Anyway, Kanye's on a roll.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. He deleted the track after she served in paper. She's got her daughter's name copyrighted, by.

[Jack Armstrong]

The way, trademarked, because you're a Kardashian, and that's the way you roll. So ye. His ye feed. He's got a Kanye west on Twitter, and then he's got his Yi feed, which has 33 million followers. Of course, a big chunk of those are just there to watch the car wreck. Right, Right. It's not like unfolding.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Car wreck. Yeah. Train wreck. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So how many tweets, Katie, you've been following this more closely than us. You've read through the tweets. You have any idea how many tweets he put out yesterday? Because I'm looking at. These are all seven and eight hours old, so. And there's just a stream. A stream of them from overnight, and there's easily over a hundred.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And he's.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's still going right now. Okay. They're all caps, all capital letters, and, like, I'll just read a random one in all caps. The only thing that I was mad about in the last few hours was taking that Jay Z and Beyonce tweet down. Dame dash sign me, by the way, not Jay Z. So he's in some sort of beef with that couple. Um. What. Do you know what tweet he took down when he. I mean, if. If he took it down, if it was too much for him, it must have really been something. I can't remember exactly what the tweet.

[Cindy Crawford]

Was, but it had something to do with their kids.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's. What's interesting about this? No, you're saying he actually. He had to take down his song. So Kim Kardashian's legal maneuvers must have done something.

[Ryan Seacrest]

So do you see where he's selling black clan robes, which he describes as supple and soft?

[Jack Armstrong]

I did not. What's a black clan robe?

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's a KKK robe, but it's black.

[Jack Armstrong]

But, like, what's the message there?

[Ryan Seacrest]

The message is, I'm psychotic.

[Jack Armstrong]

But is he. So that's what I was trying to say. So if he took down some tweet about Jay Z and Beyonce, and they got a lot of money and power and lawyers, and he. And he took down his song because Kim Kardashian went to a judge. So he's not so crazy that he doesn't get that. Like when he's crossed the line into damaging some self financially or jail time or something like that. So what is that?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Are you're asking for a logical description of a profound mental illness, but he's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not so mentally ill that he doesn't get reality at some level, which makes you have to wonder how much of it is just. He could control this, but he doesn't care.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, I don't. I don't agree with you at all.

[Jack Armstrong]

You don't think so?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Somebody as mentally ill as Kanye is not consistent. That's. That's part of the deal, man. Go through more of those tweets. Holy cow. No, he. This is. This is a man who has a serious mental illness.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, true.

[Ryan Seacrest]

But enough money to keep the normal forces at bay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you think lawyers come to him and say, hey, hey, yay. You got to take down the song. Because Kim's lawyer says, blah, blah, blah, and he said, oh, all right. Think it's like that?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, it could be. Yeah. Based on his affection for the child and maybe Kim still, because he famously didn't want to be sent packing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you think he's actually a Nazi?

[Ryan Seacrest]

No. He's mentally ill.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you don't. Your answer to all these questions would be he's mentally ill.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes. Oh, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mm hmm.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Why does he do this? Because he's mentally ill. Why doesn't he do that?

[Jack Armstrong]

So his super bowl ad, which pointed you to his website that only sold sweatshirts with a swastik on it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

See above answer.

[Jack Armstrong]

So this is what it'd be like to be crazy if you had a ton of money.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Yeah. Essentially.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which we've never really seen displayed like this before, other than maybe Michael Jackson.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Howard Hughes back in the day, another great example. Although he kept to himself, he's famously a recluse. Kanye, not so much.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Howard Hughes is more long fingernails and toenails in a hotel room. Kanye's more of a. I'm down with Nazis. Oh, well, I wonder how this is going to end. I have a guess. If you missed a segment, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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