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Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
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I am Conan o' Brien and I'm honored to be the last human host of the Academy Award. Yes. Yeah. Next year it's going to be a waymo in a tux. So check that out. That's kind of funny. A way more when it talks. The Academy Awards are moving to YouTube in a couple of years, which sounds fairly appropriate for where things are going and the fact that the ratings have dropped off so much over recent years
Joe Getty
as they've alienated two thirds of America.
Jack Armstrong
I think in three years, the Oscars move online to YouTube. I hope the producers. I'm reading a critic in the New York Post. I hope the producers. Well, I hope there are new producers for this show. I hope whoever's in charge should take the reboot as an opportunity to remake the Academy Awards to be a celebration of our love of movies and not just use streaming as an excuse to let winners talk and talk. No more Blather after Another. One Blather after another, which is a take on the title of the film that won the best Oscar last night. One Blather after another.
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Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Okay. Well, it's. It's going to go one direction or another. They're either going to decide, you know what? We should try to welcome in everybody who loves movies, which is everyone, and stay away from politics. Or we should decide that we have now become a tight little group of a certain kind of person and we're just going to talk to each other. Which seems to be the direction they've chosen.
Joe Getty
I like this one. It was written by David Mickix. Hollywood, the most sublime dream factory ever known to humanity has died. Official reports don't include an exact time of death, but the end came years on after years on life support, sustained by a legion of CGI enhanced superheroes, once rollicking and reckless, full of glamour, danger and Suspense. Hollywood spent two decades withering into a cosmetically altered, politically correct corpse. It's one surviving older relative. Opera could not be reached for comment. It's only child television and two grandchildren. Video gaming and little TikTok were distracted by family quarrels and did not attend the funeral.
Jack Armstrong
You know, I saw.
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Oh, I'm sorry. Speaking of family quarrels coming up, having annoying relatives could speed up your biological clock. In other words, send you to an early grave. Stay with us.
Jack Armstrong
A couple of short Oscar comments. I did not see a second of it, but I read some quotes from various stars saying things about ice or the war or whatever. And I think, who, what, what do you think you're accomplishing at this point? Maybe 15 years ago, when you still got an audience of like 80 million people and it was shocking to hear somebody make a political comment, maybe then you got some bang for your buck. But at this point, when you're only talking to other people who agree with you and the audience has dwindled way, way, way, way down, what does Javier Bardeem, or whatever his name is think he's getting out of Free Palestine? And the crowd claps a little bit. What does he possibly think he's getting out of that?
Joe Getty
I think as a misanthrope, you're ill suited for this question because I think you underestimate the desperation for approval that the people inside, it's for each other. It's for the people in the building and the people in the creative arts community, which is essentially the people.
Jack Armstrong
I don't, I don't relate to that because I don't have that gene or whatever. But yeah, so he's going to go to the after Oscar party. He's going to hit three after Oscar parties and people are going to say, that was so brave what you said about Palestine. And that gives him an erection, having done that.
Joe Getty
I don't know about that. I don't know him that well. But yes, it will please him.
Jack Armstrong
On the other Oscar thing that maybe we'll talk about later is Ozempic on the Runway. Apparently people who are already pretty dang thin are now skeletal because they decided to go Ozempic and get his so skinny. Okay, that's interesting. Wow.
Joe Getty
Wow, what a strange subculture of America that is. I swear. And nobody's paying much attention these days, but other than the media, which is stuck in the past because they're herd animals. But I mean, you might as well be talking about some sort of sister wives community where they're all wearing drab dresses out in the rural Utah or something than. Than Hollywood because, you know, about as similar to my lifestyle as one to
Jack Armstrong
the other still alerts me to all these award shows, alert me to good stuff. And I often found good stuff. I watched Marty supreme, the Timothee Chalamet movie. He was nominated for best actor but lost last night. I watched that movie every weekend. We've.
Joe Getty
We loved it.
Jack Armstrong
It was fantastic. I started in watching it again yesterday.
Joe Getty
Arts.
Jack Armstrong
Very artsy.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
It is not a formula movie by. And Timothy Chalamet is flipping amazing. It was between that or Sinners and I just. I just can't do vampire. I just really. I just can't go vampire.
Joe Getty
Even though the southern juke joint music
Jack Armstrong
that all look good, but I just.
Joe Getty
But then I'm told the second half just kind of becomes a vampire movie. Yeah, it looks like it's funny about you and vampires.
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Joe Getty
How about Frankenstein, monsters or mummies? Are you similarly anti them or what?
Jack Armstrong
I'll tell you this about the ping pong movie, Timothy Chalamet. If you've seen a trailer, you have no idea what the movie's about. There's no way you could make a trailer that gives you any idea what the movie is like.
Joe Getty
Wait a minute. His dog doesn't die of cancer at the end. They fooled me once with that crap.
Jack Armstrong
Not like that, but it is. It is something.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Okay, now I'm interested. Yeah, I like vampire movies, so I'll probably watch that. Sinners. I've been told that it was kind of woke, but I don't. You don't know. These days everybody's so on edge. I have a dozen different.
Jack Armstrong
Speaking of that, just since it came up now on that one battle after another. Is that what it's called? That one? Best Picture? Yeah, I saw it and I didn't see politics in it. You saw it and other people saw it and thought there's a lot of politics in it.
Joe Getty
Oh, I thought it was unwatchable.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. That's interesting. A lot of reviewers are on each side of it too. The director himself said, no, it's not about politics. He said, I hate movies that are about politics. He said, they're boring. Plus you have no shelf life. I want to make movies that people will enjoy for years. So his intention was for it to not be about politics.
Joe Getty
But again, when we discussed this originally, I confessed that I'd only watched the first 20 minutes or so of it and. And you can get a distorted idea of what the. The greater thing is. But Hollywood's obnoxious and I hate them. Anyway, I just thought I'd put a period on that. Oh, coming up. Indeed. Your obnoxious relatives will shorten your life. But first, I've got half a dozen, at least of really intriguing articles about AI and where we are now with it. Here's the question for you and I noodle this through every time I bring it up. It's probably going to be completely different in three months. So how much value is there in a where we are now? I suppose there's value because we're all kind of curious about how it's evolving, but I'm never sure. But I like this thinking AI can do work. Can it do a job? This is really well written by Kobe Yank Jacobs.
Jack Armstrong
Hopefully.
Joe Getty
Sounds like an act more than a name.
Jack Armstrong
But his middle name is Yank.
Joe Getty
His last name is hyphenated Yank Dash Jacobs.
Jack Armstrong
Okay.
Joe Getty
Yeah. I've never heard of anybody named Yank Yang.
Jack Armstrong
Kind of reminds me for some reason of my shop teacher slash wrestling coach who used to call me Mr. Me Offer.
Joe Getty
That's a crass and childish joke, especially for an educator.
Jack Armstrong
Jack, you couldn't get away with that anymore, could you? Calling us. No, you shouldn't have gotten away with it then. No.
Joe Getty
What the hell? You went to some weird schools. So this guy's piece of writing starts off with a couple of people who are trying to figure out what career might be AI proof. Like this gal who's a journalist who became. Now she writes about wine and beverages and stuff because robots can't taste wine, she says. But he writes the problem.
Jack Armstrong
That's true, I suppose. Robots can't taste wine.
Joe Getty
Right?
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Joe Getty
But then he writes after some some delightful and lyrical writing, which I will skip. An AI passing the bar hasn't displaced lawyers, just as an AI reading a medical scan has not placed displaced radiologists. Software engineers do seem to be on the precipice, and they often acknowledge it. If you're just following what tasks AI can do, you see a drastically mixed picture when you look at different industries. To get a better picture of how the latest AI development affects jobs, you need to think in terms messiness. What can an AI do in a flexible fluid environment, one where instructions are ambiguous, the steps are less important than the outcomes? An AI that land leads to major job displacement doesn't just act independently, it pursues goals. Recent Studies show a 16% decline in employment among 22 to 25 year olds in the most AI exposed professions like programming. There is absolutely no question that it's really, really hurting that at the at the same time, other research showed that industries with high AI exposure have seen a 1 percentage point increase in the rate of job growth relative to industries with less exposure. This is often referred to as the difference between automation and augmentation. If AI makes your job faster to do, an employer might choose to sell more of what you make. When ATMs were invented, it actually increased the overall number of bank tellers, but they did different work. This is augmentation in action. A productivity enhancing machine expanded the business and it upgraded the value of the frontline role. This doesn't happen in every case, but it makes the simple story of automation a little more complex. And he talks about if it eliminates bottlenecks. I'm sorry, he said. Another reason why I'm looking narrowly at AI's performance on certain tasks is a faulty heuristic. That is, deploying AI in actual business context is a really slow, messy process. This is in part because productivity gains create bottlenecks. If I were to complete three extra articles per week, our editors would also have to move three times as fast. Rules and regulation also add to stubborn friction. Replacing a human scheduler and a doctor's office with an AI won't necessarily make it any faster to get the necessary HIPAA permissions to handle individual patient profiles. The barrier there isn't technological anyway, so it's very messy and it's a long piece.
Jack Armstrong
But the fact that we don't have any idea whether this is going to revolutionize man's relationship with earning a living in a way that's never happened on planet Earth, or maybe not hardly at all is amazing.
Joe Getty
Right? Right. But he says the challenge right now is to figure out how to use AI and how much to use AI in a way that doesn't lead to sometimes hilarious disaster, because that's still happening a lot with hallucinating or when Anthropic let Claude run its office vending machine as a small business, which was an hilarious foible. So where there is ambiguity and it's more about goals than a specific task that can be easily programmed, they think it actually might increase jobs in those fields. For now again, ask me again in two months.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I mean, an example on that would be so I I saw the results of the Oscars and I wanted to do a little research last night. And then so I searched on Grok, for instance, I said, what did critics or the director say about the meaning of one battle after another after winning the Oscars tonight? And Grok just could not come up with that movie just could not recognize that movie exists is I kept saying do you mean the movie kept giving me different titles? We're not. Do you mean last year's Oscars? It like just what? How could you not I mean just the most simple rudimentary Google would give you that movie and it didn't couldn't tell that it existed. I went to Claude and got immediate results. But so but how how these AI machines just every once in a while glitch and like get something so wrong is amazing.
Joe Getty
Yeah yeah.
Jack Armstrong
I wonder if you can ever figure
Joe Getty
that be disastrous depending on the nature of your business.
Jack Armstrong
No kidding. No kidding. Wow. If you have any thoughts on about that anybody in the know you should hit us with the text 415295 kftc armstrong and getty People don't listen to
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US and Israeli strikes continued to hammer the Iranian regime over the weekend. Significant airstrikes in the capital of Tehran. We've got some video showing black smoke rising overnight from the Iranian capital. It's not just Tehran that's getting hit though, the entirety of western Iran coming under heavy CENTCOM and Israeli strikes as the Americans and the Israelis are looking to degrade the Iranian regime and their capability to respond.
Jack Armstrong
So we'll have more on the latest with the war coming up a little later. And where things stand with the attempting to open the Strait of Hormuz so oil tankers can go in and out.
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And does it feel like your toxic family relationships are aging you? They are science. Coming up. Stay with us.
Jack Armstrong
Got the perfect companion piece to what we were just talking about with the whole AI thing. Is AI gonna like destroy the everything economics, people having a job, people having a purpose in life, blah blah blah. Just upend the planet or not. Well, one of the greatest alarmists in world history who turned out to be wrong died over the weekend. Paul Ehrlich, who wrote the population bomb in 1968 that had everybody freaked out for years and years and years, really started the whole environmental thing. He died over the weekend. He wrote the Population Bomb. He was predicting that by the mid-80s there would be never ending wars for food and Water because the population would be so great with limited resources and there was, there's almost no time left to turn this around. Families all around the world needed to start having one, two or no children or were absolutely doomed as a species. And he couldn't have been more wrong.
Joe Getty
Hilariously so.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And not that it would have been easy to predict. I mean it would have been impossible to predict that human beings would just on their own decide to stop having children. And now our big problem is where are we going to get people? We're going to disappear because we don't have the people. I don't blame him for not being able to predict that. The point is that same as the whole AI thing, who freaking knows this guy, this guy was on Johnny Carson 20 times. 20 times he was on the Tonight show talking about when we get, when we reach this many billion people and this much water, we don't blah, blah, the endless wars. And this is what's going to happen in starvation. Not even close to.
Joe Getty
Right, right, right. And I've always thought with the climate change thing, not that I'm pro like pumping pollutants into the air nonstop or anything like that. I'd like to protect the one planet we have. Sorry, Elon. For now, the one planet. But if, if for instance, the temperatures rose because of carbon emissions and I got to believe that that would cause something like non stop rain for six weeks, that would cool the planet or something. We don't know what the self correction is like the Paul Ehrlich garbage, whatever his name is.
Jack Armstrong
Well, he's dead now. I, you know, I don't know if he should be criticized the way he often is just because he got it wrong. I mean the trajectory, if the trajectory had continued, he's probably right. I mean you get too many people, there's not going to be enough food and water and what the hell's going to happen? But the point being is that you just can't, you can't. There's too many other factors, as you said, to predict these things in a straight line.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
And certainly with AI, AI is more unpredictable than anything.
Joe Getty
Really? No clue, no idea. Nobody has any going to be exciting
Jack Armstrong
to live through it. I think if you missed a second. Make it the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.
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Joe Getty
Who was more oppressive to their women
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in their countries, Iran or the Trump
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Think I'm the best, like knowledgeable on the subject.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, I'm not a woman. I don't think it's my right to say which group. If the other group is having more
Joe Getty
or less rights, I think that's up
Jack Armstrong
to the people it's actually affecting.
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I would say they're equally as oppressive.
Jack Armstrong
I feel like Trump oppresses us to an extent because like we still have like our freedoms and stuff like that. But he's trying to get rid of them too. I mean, wasn't like up until recently, women can open their own like credit card at a certain point in the us I really don't know.
Joe Getty
I'm sorry, I don't know about Iran.
Jack Armstrong
So I think the takeaway, the way I was seeing it float around, at least in conservative circles, was, you know, woke college kids. For me it was more moronic. College kids, they clearly like just don't think about the big issues or have never been taught about them or they're just, just unaware they're.
Joe Getty
And not well spoken.
Jack Armstrong
No, no, they just come off as dumb people. That.
Joe Getty
Or as children.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'd expect that answer out of a 10 year old, not a 20 year old who's made it to college.
Joe Getty
Yeah. I mean even as a confession of ignorance, if they were to say that's a really interesting question. I'm afraid I haven't really studied it as opposed to, I don't know about
Jack Armstrong
things like this that we're talking about.
Joe Getty
I mean they sound like little children.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Which gets to. There's practically no standard to come out of high school as a high school graduate anymore. To get from first grade to second grade to all the way through to graduate high school, there's just, you can't be held back. It doesn't matter how little you learn, they pass you along. I know this for a freaking fact and it makes me insanely angry. I could talk about this rest of the show. They have no standards and they won't even tell the parents. It's just, it's so maddening. And then they head off to college and college apparently is the same way. I don't have that experience with college, but apparently college is the same way. Just you can easily get A's and B's, you hardly ever go to class, you hardly have any homework. And then you graduate with a college degree. So now you're 22 with a high school diploma and a college degree and you don't know a freaking thing.
Joe Getty
Well, right. And what's really interesting and unfortunate is you've got employers of all sorts across the country who say, yeah, that college diploma doesn't mean squat. These people don't know anything at all. But that word is not filtered into the culture, especially the parents who are still absolutely intent on, you know, selling body and soul and mortgaging house to get kid into quote, unquote, good college. It really is insidious. It's decadent is the word. We're just not a serious country. Oh, we're not going to talk about that. We're going to talk about this. Unless you want to talk about that more. We can talk about anything.
Jack Armstrong
Those, those college kids. You might as well use the term K because they sound like little kids being asked a grown up question.
Joe Getty
Boy, I. That, yeah, that was the shocking part to me. I think about the guys I knew in school and girls for that matter. You wouldn't get any of that.
Jack Armstrong
Well, imagine if you did that on any topic in the 40s.
Joe Getty
Sure.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. I wonder what school that was at. Sure. It wasn't a middle school. Most people have one. A parent who can't get through a phone call without a cutting remark. A sibling whose entire personality seems engineered to cause problems. A grown child who drains every gathering of its energy. New research suggests these relatives aren't just making life more frustrating for other family members, they may be causing you to age faster too.
Jack Armstrong
Funny, I don't have that currently. Thank God, right?
Joe Getty
No, neither do I. But I know people who do, including you might marry the most wonderful person in the world, but the crew they bring along with them might be a tad trying. So this is, this is so interesting. And I tell you what, I hate to skip to the end, but. But it may convince you that those toxic relationships that you just grit your teeth and get through, maybe you ought to save yourself and get through them less or try to spend less time. Nearly one in three people as at least one Hassler, which is what they gave a good moniker for that person in your life. Someone who regularly causes problems or makes life difficult. Family members are the most common and biologically costly type. They cause actual biologic accelerated biological aging. When your family members more than coworkers, more than neighbors, or even your spouse, it's like that. Next tier out showed the strongest links to accelerated biological aging when they are regularly hassled, burdened, or created problems for someone in their network work. Having a family member in that category was associated with a biological age roughly a year older than peers of the same calendar age and with cells aging measurably faster.
Jack Armstrong
So is that an evolutionary thing? And we're just so concerned that the people closest to us are not on board with the tribe, what the tribe needs to do to survive, and it really works.
Joe Getty
Well, it's stressful. Yeah. Stress tears apart the telomeres at the ends of the cells.
Jack Armstrong
I guess I can't comment on this because I don't have the situation, but I feel like possibly because of doing this job, I could just let it roll off me. It's not going to stress me out. It's just. All right, you're in college now and that's what you think. I'll check in with you in 10 years.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I would agree. Yeah. But I mean, like the, you know, when you're visiting them, you're there for Christmas, it's Thanksgiving, a phone call, whatever, you know, they're going to say nasty and oh, there it was.
Jack Armstrong
Well, and it's all, it's all about the degree, too. How much, how much, how often, how adamant.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Interestingly enough, the cliche of the henpecked spouse or whatever didn't seem to have nearly the same significant biological aging effect as the family ties. According to the study, the family ties hardest exit and loaded with most obligation parents, children and siblings may be doing the most quiet biological damage.
Jack Armstrong
You know, I can think of an example now. I was in a relationship for a while years ago with somebody who was quite woke and it stressed me out so much, It probably cut a decade off my life. I probably got a year to go because of, because of that relationship.
Joe Getty
Let's just, let's come out with it. You great. You dated Greta Thunberg for here. You and little Greta Squire and her around town taking the occasional voyage, you know, bring crap to the Palestinians. Me and.
Jack Armstrong
Me and AOC were a couple for a cup of coffee and it was really tiring. But yeah, that was funny.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And whenever it would come up and they'd see something like that, it was just, it was beyond, like. I don't agree with that. It was just Like, I could feel my telomeres shortening.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. Non family Hasslers, such as co workers or acquaintances, also showed a significant association with one of the two aging clocks. But not. Not nearly as bad as parents, siblings, and, you know, children.
Jack Armstrong
Another thing. This is probably a personality trait with me more than anything else. I'm more uncomfortable for the other people in the room than I am myself, I think, because I feel like I can handle this. I can just ignore your stupid opinion. But it really bothers me that these other people around here are having to hear this.
Joe Getty
Here's some interesting demographic info. Hassler exposure also turns out to be unequally distributed. Tracking closely with existing vulnerabilities, women were more likely to report having Hasslers than men. People with more adverse childhood experiences showed higher Hassler counts in adulthood. Well, they come from a somewhat dysfunctional family.
Jack Armstrong
That continues to be a chicken egg thing right there.
Joe Getty
Daily smokers. And those in poorer health also reported more Hasslers.
Jack Armstrong
Daily smokers.
Joe Getty
You know what's wrong with Trump? Hey, I don't suppose you've lucked into your kid's problem yet. Been too busy. Oh, my God. Exactly. Your chain smoking uglier than a mud fence mother in law.
Jack Armstrong
Yes.
Joe Getty
Oh, boy.
Jack Armstrong
Talking about.
Joe Getty
Is she always like this? In short, people already dealing with the most also tend to have more difficult people in their lives. A compounding effect the authors described as a form of.
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Joe Getty
Oh, good Lord. Relational inequality. Please shut up.
Jack Armstrong
You quit talking to me like that. I'm gonna. That little. That little hole. You talk to me through your. Your throat. I'm gonna put a marble in there. That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna shut you up.
Joe Getty
Is he still in that dead end job? Yes, mom. He finds it satisfying. He enjoys his work. It's a dead end, that's all I'm saying.
Jack Armstrong
Well, you really failed with that one, didn't you?
Joe Getty
Wow. Krosty the clown on the line. Biological aging was far from the only health domain affected. Each additional Hassler was associated with higher depression and anxiety scores, poorer self rated mental health and physical health. Higher bmi, worse waist to hip ratio.
Jack Armstrong
My waist to hip ratio coming in for kicking.
Joe Getty
And higher rates of multiple chronic conditions occurring at the same time. Inflammation markers from the same DNA samples followed suit. Chronic social stress appears to put the body's internal alarm system on a slow burn, repeatedly triggering the release of stress hormones like cortisol and its evil cousin, adrenaline. Over time, the persistent activation feeds inflammation at the molecular level, wearing down the Body across multiple systems at once. Wow.
Jack Armstrong
What is my hip to waist ratio supposed to be? I don't know, two to one? I don't.
Joe Getty
I don't have any idea. Varies from fellers and gals, I'd imagine.
Jack Armstrong
Never measured that. I don't have any idea where I am on that.
Joe Getty
So I tell you what it. And I think a lot of people know this instinctively, those dysfunctional relationships are not just unpleasant, they're wearing you down.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that's interesting. Again, shortening your life.
Joe Getty
For God's sake.
Jack Armstrong
I should take this to heart because I do. See, I hear other people complain about it and maybe I don't realize how awful it is because I've never had it. Like people talking about like, they got to go visit their mom or whatever. Just like, oh my God, can I get through this weekend? You know, And I've never had that. Thank God. But hey, there's a reason why it people talk that way. It's actually damaging to your health.
Joe Getty
Yeah. I know a handful of people who are lovely people who came from pretty serious dysfunction and have to stay in touch to some extent. I know.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
I can practically see it. Shortening their lifespans
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Joe Getty
Think about it.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, and their hip to waist ratios
Joe Getty
all out of whack place salt nutty. And then what are you gonna do? Well, if you're a Hollywood star, you hit the Ozempic. Apparently Hollywood has gone wild with the weight loss drugs. You got women who are £110 gobbling the stuff down now. They look like skeletons.
Jack Armstrong
So the doctors will give it to you. Or can you order it without a doctor at this point? I haven't looked into it.
Joe Getty
Look at your aging Hollywood stars especially. You can find a doctor will do freaking anything.
Jack Armstrong
You get Matthew Perry's doctor and you're off to the races.
Joe Getty
Or Michael Jackson's. Right.
Jack Armstrong
Speaking of awoke coming up in hour four, I'd like you to turn me
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change me from black to white, remove my nose and give me some elephant tranquilizers. Done. I'm on it. When would you like to pick that up? Coming up in our four. I'll put it off till then because we're just talking about woke. One of the best. Exclamation exclamations.
Joe Getty
Oof.
Jack Armstrong
That's an exclamation. One of the best. Damn. One of the best explanations for what drives the whole woke thing. It's really interesting it's about the spiritual deficit, but in a way I'd never seen it put before. So wait till that now or four. Among other things. If you ever miss a segment, get the Podcast the Oscar nominated podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand Armstrong and Getty
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First time since 2012 that there are no British actors nominated for best actor or best actress. Yeah. British spokesperson said, yeah, well at least we arrest our pedophiles.
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Wow. Actually you don't arrest gang rapists if they're Pakistanis in Britain. So back to you, Conan.
Jack Armstrong
Saturday Night Live also had an Epstein joke the very beginning, once again implying that the war in Iran is to cover up for the Epstein files.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. Back to the Oscars briefly. Sean Penn won the Oscar last night for best supporting actor for his role in One Battle after another. And he is something in that movie. But he didn't attend the Oscars, he didn't get his speech because he's in Ukraine trying to draw people's attention to that war, feeling like it's being forgotten, which is a good expenditure of your time as opposed to sitting at the Oscars and doing whatever you do there. He's only the fourth male performer ever to win three acting Oscars, does not very often win three. Daniel Day Lewis, Jack Nicholson, Walter Brennan, and now Sean Penn. Not that that means anything. The, you know, the trajectory of all this sort of thing was going to happen whether they got political or not. I mean, because we just have so many different, different entertainment options happening all at the same time, you know, I think is part of it. And so it was going to head this direction anyway. But I'm surprised that it still has any heft whatsoever because I feel like the thing that we learned coming out of COVID and all the streaming shows and everything like that is there are lots of good writers and directors and actresses and actors and just the screenplay, right. There's tons of people that can do that really, really well. It's not a tiny, tiny little group of elites. Elite. It's like every town has got a bunch that are amazing.
Joe Getty
That's an excellent point. Oh yeah, the, the creativity out there. It used to be there were gatekeepers and a pyramid. You had to rise to the top of the pyramid before anybody ever saw your work in any significant way. It's not true anymore. And a lot of money's gone out of it. I mean, I think your, your low budget filmmakers are just doing it because they love to do it, which is reason enough. But yeah, it's completely different. And yet the pretension and self aggrandizement continues.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. To a very small.
Joe Getty
Go ahead.
Jack Armstrong
To a very small audience. I'm embarrassed to think about the way I used to watch the Oscars. It's just embarrassing. I mean it's. Who gives a crap what any of those people think about anything?
Joe Getty
It's a perfect example of people who think emotionally versus people who think logically. And we're all a mix, of course. But, but I mean, Hollywood types, the progressive Hollywood are entirely emotional thinkers. Because somebody surely, if anybody said, hey, given the incredibly diverse ways people entertain themselves and how movies have less cultural cache than they used to, we probably ought to not, I don't know, punch half of America in the face every time we come face to face with the them. I mean, just for business reasons.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I'll be interested to see what the ratings were because they've, I had the list somewhere of how much it's dropped off. I mean they were still getting 50 million people to tune into that show as recently as 2015, I think. And then it was in the low 20s last year. I'll bet it was in the teens this year. And then it goes to YouTube in a couple of years and then it will just disappear really Kind of as a thing. You'll, you'll hear about it on the radio, read about it in the paper, the paper online somewhere, who won what if you even click on it. But it will not be an event.
Joe Getty
If it was a mostly pretension free just list of, hey, here's five unbelievable documentaries and here's the one we picked at win. But they're all wonderful. And the same thing with dramas and comedies or whatever. I think that would get a huge audience because we're still gonna take in that commercial art form, but good lord, the form it takes is just insufferable.
Jack Armstrong
We watched Marty supreme over the weekend. The thing my, my high schooler hated the most was the fact that Timothy Chalamet was with Gwyneth Paltrow in the movie. It's like she's like 60 and what is he, 25. That's what bothered him the most.
Joe Getty
Kind of bothers me. I I would take one for the team if if she promised to keep her mouth shut.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, no kidding. No kidding. If you missed a segment of this show, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand Armstrong and Getty People, don't
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Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Date: March 16, 2026
This episode blends wry cultural commentary, skeptical humor, and societal critique, with Armstrong and Getty riffing on topics from the decline of the Oscars and Hollywood’s disconnect from average Americans, to AI’s impact on jobs, the perils of toxic family relationships, and the credulity of the college-educated younger generation. Throughout, the hosts pepper their insights with biting observations, playful banter, and a few memorable rants.
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[42:57 – 47:31]
| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |---------------|---------------------------------------------------| | 03:30 | Oscars, decline of Hollywood, award show politics | | 05:52 | Meaninglessness of political statements | | 07:13 | Ozempic and Hollywood body image | | 08:00 | Value of award shows for film recommendations | | 09:55 | Discussion of AI impacts on jobs | | 11:59 | Automation vs. augmentation, AI in the workplace | | 14:26 | AI uncertainty and historical parallels | | 20:24 | Paul Ehrlich and dangers of straight-line predictions | | 26:29 | Viral video: college students’ ignorance | | 29:53 | Toxic family members and biological aging | | 33:19 | Personal story: stress from a "woke" relationship | | 42:57 | No British acting nominees, Oscars in decline | | 45:28 | Nostalgia and embarrassment for Oscars tradition |
Armstrong and Getty’s trademark sardonic wit pervades the episode, turning media analysis, social anxiety, and pop culture gripes into lively, insightful banter. Whether skewering Hollywood, lamenting youth ignorance, or parsing the genuine health effects of toxic relationships, they blend skepticism, humor, and the occasional rant, making this a quintessential installment for listeners who like their current events straight-talking and irreverent.
If you missed anything, the hosts remind you to catch up via Armstrong and Getty On Demand — "the Oscar-nominated podcast!"