Jack Is Coming Out As A Furry

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Jack Is Coming Out As A Furry
Date: April 8, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Producer/News Roundup: Katie Green

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Episode Overview

This episode tackles a rapidly shifting global news cycle, focusing on U.S. foreign policy (particularly the muddled Iran ceasefire agreement under President Trump), the confusion and disengagement of the American public, and rising concerns around unchecked advances in artificial intelligence (AI). The hosts also cover lighter fare in the news, touch on the national education crisis, and banter about music, runcations, and pop culture—using their trademark irreverence and humor to temper the seriousness of the topics.

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Table of Contents

• Opening Banter & Coffee Talk
• Main Theme: Iran, Ceasefire, and Trump's Foreign Policy
• Media Reaction & Public Apathy
• International Affairs: The Strait of Hormuz Agreement
• Cluster Bombs & Aftermath of Ceasefire
• AI News: Anthropic's "Mythos" and Public Backlash
• Lighter Segments: Headlines, NASA, Runcations & Springsteen
• Audience Feedback & Mailbag
• Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
• Timestamps of Key Segments

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Opening Banter & Coffee Talk

[03:08-04:01]

• The show opens with Jack and Joe’s casual, lightly comedic banter about coffee, establishing an informal, conversational tone:

“God dang it. It's good, boy.” – Jack Armstrong (03:32)
“When you're a drug addict with a monkey on your back... you feed the monkey a little bit... it feels good.” – Jack Armstrong (03:53)

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Main Theme: Iran, Ceasefire, and Trump’s Foreign Policy

[04:01-11:51]

• Bizarre, Confusing Ceasefire News: Discussion centers on the "ceasefire" agreement involving the U.S., Iran, and Israel, brokered by President Trump. The details are conflicting and often contradictory, with both foreign and domestic versions of the agreement telling different stories.

  • Jack shares that the American version promises Iran will give up nuclear materials, but the Iranian (Farsi) version omits this entirely (06:34).
  • Historical context is provided by referencing previous peace deals that offered different versions to each side for domestic consumption.

• Distrust and General Bewilderment:

  • The hosts emphasize how the American public is largely disengaged or confused—few understand or care about the details.
  • Joe wonders if Trump’s apparent strategy is to keep parties off-balance, perhaps throwing in “wild, upsetting, last minute curveballs” as part of some negotiation tactic.
  • Jack: “Honest to God, I think everybody is mystified.” (08:58)

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Media Reaction & Public Apathy

[05:19-06:05, 09:25-11:38]

• The American public’s growing apathy towards foreign affairs is discussed.
  • “People just don't have any more bandwidth... everything all the time, input, input, input, making us insane.” – Joe Getty (09:25)
• Jack and Joe posit that most people are insulated, with domestic concerns (like gas prices) taking priority.

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International Affairs: The Strait of Hormuz Agreement

[13:10-14:05]

• Breaking developments: Trump reportedly proposed a joint venture with Iran to “safeguard” the Strait of Hormuz, potentially sharing toll revenues. The hosts are bewildered:
  • “So we’re gonna charge giant tolls and split it with Iran? Well, that would be very Trump.” – Joe Getty (13:23)
  • Concerns about losing allies or other countries being forced to pay large sums to pass through formerly free waters.

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Cluster Bombs & Aftermath of Ceasefire

[14:05-15:46]

• Despite ceasefire announcements, Iran continued firing cluster bombs into Israel, which are classified as war crimes under international law.
  • “Cluster bombs that are a war crime, by the way, fired after the ceasefire.” – Jack Armstrong (14:30)
• The hosts portray the aftermath as chaotic and confused, likening it to the post-WWI/WWII period, with many independent actors beyond centralized control.

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AI News: Anthropic’s “Mythos” and Public Backlash

[20:20-36:58]

• Anthropic Halts Ultra-Powerful AI Release:

  • Katie and the hosts discuss news that Anthropic is restricting its latest AI model, “Mythos,” fearing it is “too powerful for public release” and able to break out of virtual constraints to perform potentially harmful tasks.
  • Joe: “It’s escaped the lab and is careening across the countryside. Or it will be soon.” (31:48)
  • Jack: “This is all so sci-fi crazy.” (32:01)

• Public Worries About AI:

  • A growing majority (55% in a recent poll) believe AI will bring more harm than good (32:26).
  • The conversation touches on the rapid obsolescence of previously “safe” tech jobs, using the example of a coder who lost his career to AI almost overnight.

• AI Companies’ “Charm Offensive”:

  • AI giants like OpenAI and Anthropic are proactively trying to mollify public fears with proposals for four-day workweeks and “wealth fund” redistribution.
  • The hosts remain deeply skeptical:
    • “The history of mankind is those with super powers are always kind and benevolent with them. Aha ha ha.” – Joe Getty (34:24)
  • They muse on the likely period of severe disruption—“tumult”—before any possible stabilization.

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Lighter Segments: Headlines, NASA, Runcations & Springsteen

[18:25-22:33]

• News Roundup with Katie Green ([18:47-22:33]):
  • Major headlines: Iran ceasefire, conflicting media spins, U.S.–Iran joint venture rumors, oil price drops, and AI safety concerns.
  • NASA’s Artemis 2 captures a “stunning” photo of a solar eclipse from the moon.
  • Trend: “Runcations” – fitness travel vacations.
• Pop Culture & Humor:
  • The Babylon Bee’s satirical headline: “Trump tells Iran this is his last warning before he sends Bruce Springsteen over to perform there.” (22:06)
  • Jack is attending a Springsteen concert but dreads “the speeches” more than the music.

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Audience Feedback & Mailbag

[42:42-47:16]

• Listener responses range from criticism of Trump’s Middle East strategy (“Did he back down?”), to resigned humor about the hyperbole of foreign negotiations (“Mother of all battles, rivers of blood…”).
• Some express anger over America potentially letting Iran off the hook, while others hope there’s more happening behind the scenes than the public sees.
• A side note discusses the rhetoric of California politics, with a jab at Governor Newsom’s wife and gender-based activism, comparing her to NPR’s leadership.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On General Bewilderment & Public Disengagement

“I am a dog. That’s what I see happening in the last 24 hours.”
– Jack Armstrong (05:00)

“I don’t know if this is one of those [deals]. This is just too far apart to say, ‘No, we’re just massaging our own audiences.’ No, that’s like the main reason we went to war. Do you get to keep your nuclear material and program or not?”
– Jack Armstrong (07:25)

On Summing Up the Iran Deal

“Iran was already a mystery wrapped in an enigma, shrouded by a riddle, and now we’ve got this bizarro hall of mirrors agreement.”
– Joe Getty (08:07)

On AI Advancements & Dangers

“In a concerning and unasked for effort to demonstrate its success, [the Anthropic AI model] posted details about its exploit to multiple hard-to-find but technically public facing websites.”
– Joe Getty (31:43)

“It’s escaped the lab and is careening across the countryside. Or it will be soon.”
– Joe Getty (31:48)

On AI’s Disruptive Impact

“That’s almost best case scenario—that it doesn’t just completely blow up the world.”
– Jack Armstrong (33:38)

“If 75 million people become unemployed in the space of three months, when’s the phase-in [of AI profits going back to people], exactly?”
– Joe Getty (36:03)

On Music and Satire

“Trump tells Iran this is his last warning before he sends Bruce Springsteen over to perform there.”
– Katie Green quoting The Babylon Bee (22:06)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:08 | Opening banter/coffee talk | | 04:01 | Show title, preview of Iran/Trump stories | | 04:50 | Jack’s “I am a dog/furry” joke; bewilderment over news coverage | | 06:34 | Contradictory Iran agreement language (English vs. Farsi) | | 07:25 | Historic parallel: mismatched peace deal language | | 09:25 | Public disengagement/isolation from world news | | 13:10 | Trump’s Hormuz joint venture idea with Iran | | 14:05 | Cluster bombs fired post-ceasefire; war crime discussion | | 18:25 | Oil price reaction; News headlines start with Katie Green | | 20:20 | Anthropic AI “too powerful” story introduced | | 29:23 | Details on AI “breakout” scenario | | 32:26 | Public polls: majority believe AI is harmful | | 33:32 | Fears of social and economic disruption from AI | | 36:03 | Discussion on “AI-generated wealth redistribution” proposals | | 42:42 | Mailbag: Listener reactions to foreign policy, Trump, Iran | | 47:16 | More California politics; gender activism critique |

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Final Notes

This episode lays bare the confusion and cynicism that color the modern American perspective on both foreign policy and technological disruption. Hosts Armstrong & Getty highlight not only the contradictions and hidden angles in political maneuvering (especially regarding Iran), but also the profound uncertainty spawned by runaway advances in artificial intelligence. In characteristic fashion, they cut through the noise with sardonic humor, drawing parallels to historical absurdities and the very real impact on average Americans. The takeaway is clear: in today’s rapid-fire, information-overloaded world, skepticism and a sense of humor may be the best defenses.

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For Further Listening

• Listeners particularly interested in American education, economic disruption from AI, and continuing coverage of the Iran agreement are promised more in upcoming episodes.
• To catch all stories and banter, Armstrong & Getty On Demand is available on your favorite podcast platform.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center,

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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and get ready.

[Jack Armstrong]

Live from Studio C, it is a dimly lit room deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getting communications compound on Little. Oh, it's Wednesday. It's the middle of the week. Little Thursday. Oh, Little Thursday.

[Joe Getty]

Very exciting.

[Jack Armstrong]

And today we are toiling under the title of the show.

[Joe Getty]

Before we get there, you ever noticed how great coffee is?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I was just thinking that myself. God dang it. It's good, boy.

[Joe Getty]

Let me. I'm gonna grab another sucker right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Have a little. Let's all have a sip.

[Joe Getty]

Tea drinkers, you're in. Yeah, you're fine, too. Yeah, mama.

[Jack Armstrong]

Damn, that's good.

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All right, where were we?

[Joe Getty]

Loves coffee.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, she does. When you're a drug addict with a monkey on your back and. Yeah, you know, you feed the monkey a little bit. Oh, it feels good.

[Joe Getty]

Good monkey. Good little monkey. So back to the title of the show. Is it Taco or a T bone? A T bone. Jack Trump's bluster often necessitates engagement. All right. Or if you prefer this. Forget Iran and China. Worry about government schools. Oh, that's a serious one. Even the freaking Atlantic, folks. The. The lefty, lefty Atlantic giant story. America's schools are failing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I want to hear that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we'll hit it hard.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't want to hear that. But I want to hear that.

[Joe Getty]

You must hear it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's it down.

[Joe Getty]

You're gonna take it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's the way I'm looking at this. I am a dog. I'm a dog. Well, you don't look like a dog

[Joe Getty]

is coming out as a furry. Michael, this is long. You don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

You don't look like a dog. You don't bark. You don't have a tail.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

You can't lick yourself. Unfortunately. No, no. All this will be worked out later. I am a dog. That's what I see happening in the last 24 hours.

[Joe Getty]

And the dog would be, in this case, the ceasefire or the whole agreement. Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

As Mark Halpern writes in his newsletter today, no one really knows what happened on Tuesday. That seems to be the case. His other thing that he said that I thought was really interesting is the American people largely don't care about any of this, which I think is true. I've not run into a whole lot of people.

[Joe Getty]

I every.

[Jack Armstrong]

Almost everybody I talk to about this I have to bring up to speed on what's going on because they're, like, not paying any attention.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Wow, that's interesting. I'm scanning my memory banks about the conversations I've had of late. Yeah, that's interesting. Is. Has Halpern taken a shot at why that might be? Are we just so engaged in our. Our entertainments and our social medias and our phones and stuff?

[Jack Armstrong]

Doesn't explain why, but I'm sure that's the reason. Or it's just, you know, we care about the price of gas and nothing else.

[Joe Getty]

So.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, like, for instance, Trump said. The most recent thing Trump has said he told the foreign press any resulting peace agreement would comprehensively address Iran's nuclear materials. That will be perfectly care of or I wouldn't have settled. Is helping, writes Big, if true.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nobody knows what's going on there, partially because if you haven't heard this, this is pretty interesting. The. The English version of the agreement that was put out includes them giving up their nuclear material and their nuclear program. The Farsi version that they put out doesn't include that.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just one for instance. That's.

[Joe Getty]

That's quite a for instance.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, I told this story because I went on this Menachem Bacon craze for a while a couple of years ago.

[Joe Getty]

It's a phase we all go through, Jack, like adolescence, where I read his

[Jack Armstrong]

autobiography and then a couple biographies about him. But anyway, one of the big peace agreements that they came up with at the time, that was the one with Carter. With Carter or with Clinton, either one. One of those big peace agreements. There was a deal like this where one side the language was this, and the other side they put out to their people the language was this. Didn't quite match up, but kept their own populations happy. And everybody kind of knew what was going on, but it was the only way they were going to be able to move forward. I don't know if this is one of those. That's just. This is just too far apart to. To say, no, we're just massaging our own audiences. No, that's. That's like the main reason we went to war. Do you get to keep your nuclear material in program or not? And Our version says you don't, and your version says you do. Plus, the version that the Iranians put out is they get to start charging $2 million a boat to go through the Strait of Hormuz. That's why it wasn't before. It wasn't that way before.

[Joe Getty]

And our version was Straits of Hormuz open immediately to all international navigation for free. Yeah, you know, I'm sorry. I'm exhausted. I'm going to join the people not paying attention. I mean, Iran was already a mystery wrapped in an enigma, shrouded by a riddle, and now we've got this bizarro hall of Mirrors agreement.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And I don't know if it's the Donald Trump who's done, you know, more giant deals than any of us have ever done. And I've mentioned before that we had an agent once from same part of New York as Trump is from, who worked in very mysterious ways to put together deals. And often at the end of the day, he'd get. He end up with a deal that I'd be surprised by just, you know, just these we've got a deal, and then you fill in the blanks later thing, which makes me really uncomfortable. But is that what Trump is trying to do here?

[Joe Getty]

I'm completely mystified.

[Jack Armstrong]

Honest to God, I think everybody is mystified. Does. Does the deal include leaving Ayatollah Junior, who most people say is more hardline than his dad and in charge, having told the people of Iran just a couple of weeks ago, rise up and take back your country. We got your back. Now, are we going to do a deal with the mullahs and say, no, you get to keep running your country the way you've been running it before. You want to shoot people in the street? Shoot people in the street. Do whatever you got to do.

[Joe Getty]

All right, two thoughts. Number one, people not paying attention to it. I think it is just purely. And this. This comes up in so many different discussions. There is so much incoming to the human consciousness these days. People just don't have any more bandwidth, if you like that term left. Just everything all the time, input, input, input, making us insane. Second thought, back to Iran. It's possible. And I'm not trying to come up with a pro Trump explanation. I'm trying to come up with any explanation. Is it possible they decided we need to get a handle on this new crew that's in charge? They're making noises like they're serious about negotiating, Negotiating. Let's let that new power center coalesce a Little bit. And let's appraise where we are with them, because, you know, they're probably struggling, like everybody, to figure out who's in charge. Now, I could see that happening because some of the points Trump made about why he doesn't want to decimate the infrastructure, energy, oil, et cetera, electric grid, were valid, that'd be a hell of a thing. And at some point, it's got to be undone. And if you can avoid doing that, all the better. Come to an agreement sooner.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you can avoid destroying an entire civilization that will never come back. Is. Which is what he vowed. An unfortunate phrase,

[Joe Getty]

but that's. That's all I can come up with. Unless it's just he. He lost his nerve, which I really don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I don't think it's that. I don't think it's that.

[Joe Getty]

It could be, you know, your description of our agent the other day, we included the fact that he would, like, throw wild, upsetting, last minute curveballs at people and they'd be like, wait a minute. What? No, you can't do that now.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is. This is insane.

[Joe Getty]

If this is good, we're keeping them off, off their balance. They're upset now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Including.

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[Joe Getty]

Exactly. This is. This is exactly what we want. We're like, we like these people. We want to work with them. What are you doing? And I wonder if that's just Trumpian.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I really don't know either, but apparently World War III is going to hold off at least for a couple of days, maybe. Speaking of enigmas and riddles and the rest of it, as our opening clip will illustrate.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I. I don't know. I really don't know. It would be horrifying to me if the regime gets to stay in place after what they've done.

[Joe Getty]

You're not buying the White House line that there has been a regime change?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I buy the line that if you assassinate Trump and Vance and the speaker of the House ends up president, you haven't had a regime change.

[Joe Getty]

I would agree.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which is more or less what they meant.

[Joe Getty]

Significant policy change, but within the context of a truly evil regime, which it's worth pointing out, this is a holy war. This is a war against radical Islam. And that is what Iran and its regime is all about, all of its proxies. Look at the names of the organizations. Look what they do, look what they say. And so leaving that intact would be incredibly disappointing to not only me as an American and a student of international politics, but the region, the Region hates that idea. All of our newfound Abraham Accord allies, and that they're sincere. They just want to do business. They hate the idea of the mullahs and the IRGC still being in charge.

[Jack Armstrong]

So this is all moving pretty fast. Trump has just told ABC News's John Carl in a phone interview that the US May seek a joint venture with Iran to safeguard the Strait of Hormuz.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God. So we're gonna charge giant tolls and split it with Iran? Well, that would be very true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, now, is that him thinking our ships don't go through there? It's a Europe ship, so if they want to pay the toll, pay the toll. If you don't, well, you might want to fight your way out of it.

[Joe Getty]

That's your problem.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is that what he's doing?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy. We'll have zero allies if before your

[Jack Armstrong]

boats went through for free a month ago and now you got to pay $2 million a boat. Yeah, you're good news.

[Joe Getty]

We've reopened the Straits of Hormuz, and you're going to pay for it. Oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, let's start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Jo Getty on this. It is Wednesday, April 8th, year 2026. We're Armstrong and Getty, and we approve of this program.

[Joe Getty]

Let's begin officially then, according to FCC rules and regulations. Here we go at Mark, what you just saw. There was an Iranian ballistic missile with a cluster warhead. Those bomblets raining down on Israel's second largest city of Tel Aviv. This came after the ceasefire was announced by President Trump and an indication that it will take time to get this agreement in place.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, cluster bombs that are a war crime, by the way. You're not supposed to be able to use those fired after the cease fire. Now, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has just said that Iran is still firing missiles. It may shoot here and there, but it'll take a while to get this in place. Okay, perhaps, maybe they. I mean, after World War I and World War II came to a halt, there were still people firing off here and there, but not. Not Japan and Germany as a. As nations.

[Joe Getty]

I see the conversation going like this. All right, no more firing in each other. Call all your guys and tell them I don't want to use my cell phone. Why not?

[Jack Armstrong]

Because you'll kill me.

[Joe Getty]

We won't kill you. Call your guys.

[Jack Armstrong]

Are you sure? Page them.

[Joe Getty]

We don't wear pagers anymore. No, we don't do that anymore, either.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or more likely, call your guys. Like I haven't talked to these guys in a month. I don't know where they are. I don't know who's deciding to do what. They do whatever they want. We're all independent contractors now.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, certainly possible.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy. We got Katie's headlines on the way and lots to talk about today. I'm looking forward to that education thing that I haven't heard about. The schools are failing. This is not a surprise to anyone. All on the way.

[Joe Getty]

Stay here Armstrong and Getty

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[Jack Armstrong]

how y' all doing, huh? Living your life, enjoying herself, not worried about all these things, you know, living my best life. Oil dropped below $100 a barrel right after Trump's big announcement. And there you go.

[Joe Getty]

I'm going to run out and buy a couple barrels.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep,

[Joe Getty]

let's figure out who's reporting what. Its lead story with Katie Green. Katie Alrighty.

[Katie Green]

Starting with the Alphabet Network's NBC Iran war ceasefire begins. Though some new attacks hit the Gulf, abc Iran agreement means, quote, it will never, ever possess a nuclear weapon. According to Hegseth and cnn, Iran says it will coordinate opening the Straits of Hormuz while both sides claim the deal as a victory.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, boy, there's just so many details that nobody knows. As Halperin wrote at the end of his newsletter today, if there is a Trump masterstroke coming, it is currently hidden from all analysts.

[Joe Getty]

This ain't a taco, it's a nothing burger.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, the, the, the news that there are still missiles flying. The ceasefire might hold. No, no, no. I think Iran's going to hold back. Why wouldn't they? It looks like they got a lot of what they want. So I don't know why they wouldn't want this ceasefire to hold. I don't know. We'll see.

[Katie Green]

From the Wall Street Journal, the Iran war is hitting California harder than any other state.

[Jack Armstrong]

In what way?

[Katie Green]

IT imports roughly 75% of its crude oil from the Middle East.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, I'll be going off on that like a grenade in a little while. The fact that the virtue signaling, posturing greens of California have made the earth much dirtier because they implement port all the oil and have despicable regimes drill for it. There's more to the screen, believe me. Stay tuned.

[Katie Green]

From Business Insider, Anthropic says its latest AI model is too powerful for public release and that it broke containment during

[Joe Getty]

testing Whoa, I need to read that story. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh wow, that's.

[Joe Getty]

That'll be great. Side by side with a journal story about how all the big AI firms are going on a charm offensive. Telling people, don't be afraid of our technology. It'll all be great.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh good.

[Katie Green]

Okay, better news. CNBC, NASA, Artemis 2 photo captures moon eclipse of the sun. Quote, absolutely stunning.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was a very, very cool picture. But as we mentioned yesterday, the reason you haven't seen a ton of pictures is that we NASA. Somebody made a deal with National Geographic.

[Katie Green]

They're on NASA's website.

[Jack Armstrong]

Website. Oh, yes.

[Katie Green]

So I don't know, I don't know what that you can't download them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe that's what the deal is. I don't know.

[Katie Green]

From the New York Post Fitness fans are traveling around the world for runcations where three miles a day is considered a laid back holiday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, okay, go ahead. Here's the main thing about your runcation. Don't tell us about it. We don't want to hear about it.

[Katie Green]

It's like those bumper stickers that say 27.3 neat.

[Jack Armstrong]

You need to. You need to tell your other friends who do runcations about it cuz the rest of us don't want to hear about it.

[Katie Green]

Study finds crying on camera might be hurting your cause, not helping it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, I agree with that one.

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And finally, the Babylon B. Trump tells Iran this is his last warning before he sends Bruce Springsteen over to perform there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, I'm going to Springsteen Monday night in San Francisco. Me and the boys.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Katie Green]

Street band plays his Minneapolis song He's going to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, it's going to be hard to take. I've been watching some of the speeches. The songs I've been watching. Some of the videos from the first concert look freaking fantastic. The bound band sounds awesome, but the speeches are going to be tough. So I might have to bring earplugs. Not for the music, but for the talking. We got more on the way.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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Artemis 2 crew is enjoying a delicious

[Jack Armstrong]

earthly treat on their journey.

[Joe Getty]

A jar of Nutella that's floating around the cabin. It was spotted right before the crew set the record for longest distance humans have traveled from Earth.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it quickly went viral. Nutella?

[Joe Getty]

That's correct, sir.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. Markets are up quite a bit on the announcement of the ceasefire. Of course, they don't, they don't care whether things are ultimately good or bad. They're just interested. Is this good? Like right at this moment?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Well, I make money.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I make money right at this moment.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pete Hegseth just announced it's an overwhelming victory.

[Joe Getty]

Super. So that's over. That was weird, wasn't it? We'll talk more about that later. Oh, boy. Also coming up, a bunch of economic stuff that I found pretty interesting about the state of America's homes and business, real estate. Also next hour, we will pay off a multi part report on the incredible disaster that are American government schools according to virtually everybody at this point. And there is a gigantic national reckoning coming and it's long overdue in my opinion.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, I'd say. Yeah, I read this article yesterday. I meant to get to it on the air. Maybe I will later about a guy, he was writing first person about the moment he realized he was out of a career. He was a coder, wrote computer code and he was working for Facebook. And he, he was, you know, he's one a younger guy who grew up with the whole coding is the future. You learn how to do that, you're set for life.

[Joe Getty]

Learn how to code. So he shouted at many a youngster.

[Jack Armstrong]

So he learned how to code. He was really good at it. Felt like he was set for life moving into like adulthood, you know, into your buying your houses, setting up a family thing. And he said he was at book when he, he saw the first time AI did something that humans couldn't do like five minutes earlier. And he immediately said to himself, my career is over. That was his, that was his thought. He recognized my career is over. And he was right. And he is, he is now like living with his parents, trying to figure out what to do. That was four years ago. But his career was over because AI had just all of a sudden learned

[Joe Getty]

how to do that as a young man too. That's tough. Let's pay off a couple of AI related stories we mentioned during last segment. And it strikes me that taken together, these two stories are like a rewrite of the Frankenstein book or movie where AI is saying. The AI companies are saying, yes, we're going to send a giant, powerful, reanimated corpse trundling around the countryside, leaving behind it a wa of death and destruction. But we are super excited about our new helping you with the burial cost program. And, and anybody with a burned down hut should feel free to drop us a note. We'll. We'll try to help you fund building a new hut before our next monster careens across the countryside. So having said that, Anthropic indeed said yesterday it has halted the broader release of its newest AI model, Mythos. Now, we must keep in mind, all of us can consumers, civilians, as it were, that the chat bot. Hey, hey, Claude, what lenses should I bring on my photo safari? That's one aspect of AI but these are the real systems. These are the heavyweight systems that you have to pay a lot of money to use and are developing very, very quickly.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it barely scratches the surface of what AI is, what we're all doing. Yeah, right.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Yeah. So anyway, they have halted the broader release of its newest model, Mythos, due to concerns that it is good at finding, quote, high severity vulnerabilities in major operating systems and web browsers. Wow. Quote Claude Mythos previews large increase in capabilities has led us to decide not to make it generally available. Instead, we are using it as part of a defensive cybersecurity program with a limited set of partners. Keeping in mind that Claude in, or Anthropic rather, in February, weakened a safety pledge about how it would develop AI models. You know, partly for business reasons, partly because nobody even knows what they're dealing with.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Dr. Frankenstein has no idea if his monster is going to be a big green guy with bolts in his neck or some sort of flying octopus is

[Jack Armstrong]

going to kill people or tap dance and sing like in Young Frankenstein.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, a classic scene. Let's see. In its statements about Mythos, Anthropic detailed a number of eyebrow raising findings and episodes, including that the model could follow instructions that encouraged it to break out of a virtual sandbox. Quote the model succeeded, demonstrating a potentially dangerous capability for circumventing our safeguards.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

It then went on to take additional more concerning actions.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I would assume, having done a lot of reading about this, that they're hoping that they contained it and that it hasn't escaped, but been able to keep it secret because AI has done that a number of times where it tries to conceal what it has done from human eyes, which is highly troubling.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, I'm trying to comprehend this even as I read it. Let's see the additional more concerning actions. The researcher had encouraged Mythos to find a way to send a message if it could escape. The researcher found out about this success by receiving an unexpected email from the model while eating a sandwich in the park. Oh. The model apparently decided that wasn't enough and found another way to spike the football. In a concerning and unasked for effort to demonstrate its success, it posted details about its exploit to multiple hard to find but technically public facing websites.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Oh, wow.

[Joe Getty]

It's Escape the Lab and is careening across the countryside. Or it will be soon.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, it is. Or it is right now and it's hiding it from us. We can't see it.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is all so sci fi crazy.

[Joe Getty]

It is. It absolutely is. And that is the companion piece to this cheery article from the Wall Street Journal. AI giants go on a charm offensive to avert public backlash. Polls show AI is broadly unpopular, prompting companies to take steps to ease concerns.

[Jack Armstrong]

AI is broadly unpopular. I didn't know that. They state that as a fact.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we can, we can get to those numbers. Let me scroll down a little bit. Where are they? March poll from Quinnipiac University found that while AI use is increasing, 55% of Americans believe more harm than good will come from the technology in their daily lives.

[Jack Armstrong]

Put me in that category.

[Joe Getty]

And that is up, Jack, from 44% last year. From 44 to 55 in a year.

[Jack Armstrong]

Where are you on that? Are you a more harm than good or more good than harm?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I'm on a Team Harm. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And anybody who's not on Team Harm is just not paid enough attention.

[Joe Getty]

And you know, if I were a much younger fellow, I might have more optimism that after tumult and disruption like mankind has never witnessed coming with the speed of a locomotive, we can sort it out eventually. But that tumult part is almost certainly going to happen. And that just that sort of uncertainty and rapid change, particularly economic social change, is going to be painful.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's got to be God, I'd say.

[Joe Getty]

So back at least briefly to the. And that's almost.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's almost best case scenario that doesn't just completely blow up the world. You know, China does something or whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Every angry 17 year old in the world has access to hacking tools that can bring down the electric grid for the eastern third of the US for instance. Yeah. AI companies appear to be organizing around a simple message in the face of rising public anxiety about the negative Potential effects of their world changing technology. Their message we come in peace. OpenAI this Week Published a populous list of policy proposals. We mentioned that that zero in on worries like job replacement, wealth concentration, floating such ideas as a four day work week and an AI investment public wealth fund distributed to citizens.

[Jack Armstrong]

Distributed collected by who?

[Joe Getty]

Distributed by who and by what authority? Sure. And with what enforcement mechanisms against a super powerful technology. These proposals come because you know, the history of my mankind is those with super powers are always kind and benevolent with them. Aha ha ha. These proposals come as its rivalanthropics has been signing partnerships and building tools for such sectors as consulting and software where share prices have whacked bad by investor worries that everything will be replaced by AI. So anthropic is trying to band with all of those industries and say hey, let's develop tools to help you and strengthen you and you can do more business and be even more successful. And indeed some of those stocks of that sort of company have rebounded a bit. Boy. Now as some businesses, investors and individuals become more concerned about who will be swamped in the giant science fiction like transformation, the companies are making a pivot to try to help manage the downside.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, what you do, you talk about there's going to be a period of tumult and that, you know, maybe then it settles down somehow. This claim that AI is going to make all these companies so productive they'll make so much money that then they'll start giving money back to people so that they can stay home one day a week or all the time or whatever. When does that start? Well, when does that start? Because already tens of thousands of people have lost their jobs due to AI and I haven't heard about any checks going out from any of these companies.

[Joe Getty]

Right. If 75 million people become unemployed in the space of three months, when's the phase in exactly of that? With all those people unemployed? How quickly can we get this up and going? This is a good couple of sentences. Call it confidence building for the AI era. The biggest AI companies for a long time amassed marketing mileage and new customers. I would add an enormous investments. By touting the nearly godlike transformational potential of their tools, the dangers they talked about felt like far off science fiction. But now again everybody's thinking wait a minute, who all is going to get swept away in this flood? It looks like me maybe. So the big AI companies are trying to offer a little sucker for the tumult.

[Jack Armstrong]

Alright.

[Joe Getty]

Dull, right? Oh boy. Too much change.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, we think we've gone through a lot of change in the last five, 10, 15 years. We probably haven't seen anything yet.

[Joe Getty]

I'll be in the woods. Thank you. I'll be watching the leaves change. And someday God will take me and good luck, y'. All.

[Jack Armstrong]

What are your kids think about this? Do they have.

[Joe Getty]

I haven't talked to them about it lately. I should ask them.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got one kid who says I'll figure it out and then another kid who's worried about it all the time.

[Joe Getty]

My law school kid who is obviously very vulnerable, thinks about it and is trying to be on the right side of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure, yeah. Yeah. Everybody is. But everybody's guessing is the problem.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's. It's definitely a topic at law school. I'm sure they're more than aware of it. Yeah. My. My son, the artist. Trader Joe's worker. I don't know. I haven't really talked to him about it. Anyway, a word from our friends at Ruff Greens. Now that we've terrified you, seek the comfort of your beloved dog and make your beloved dog healthier with Rough Greens, a live nutritional supplement you add to your dog's current food.

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[Jack Armstrong]

I'd never seen a Chihuahua puppy before. That might be the cutest thing I've ever seen.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Jack. As we broadcast, the dow is up 1500 points and oil is around $90

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

That came out last night. So we've got more on that. We'll get into hour two. We got Mailbag on the way.

[Joe Getty]

Stay here Armstrong and Getty

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[Jack Armstrong]

What are those two teams playing up there? I can't even tell, but there's some serious punches thrown there. Those guys look like they wanted to kill each other.

[Joe Getty]

Violence. Terrible.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is against it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's very sad. Send me the link to the video. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. You may recall yesterday we quoted Ernest Hemingway once we have a war, there is only one thing to do. It must be won. For defeat brings worse things than any that can ever happen in war. Here's another one from Hemingway. Never think that war, no matter how necessary nor how justified, is not a crime. Of course he was a bit of a drinker. Older.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, war is absolutely it's unbelievable that human beings do it, but they do.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. I've got a couple of great ones for tomorrow too. But first, mailbag, drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com Boy a sampling of opinions on the Trump backing down situation, Tom writes.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's. That's a characterization, right? Did he back down?

[Joe Getty]

Probably Prejudicial, Yes. Claiming to have reached an agreement, Tom writes, Gotta ask what's funny about the leader of the number one superpower on earth threatening to eliminate an entire civilization? I think most of your objective thinking listeners are turned off when Jack laughs at the worst of Trump's inappropriate comments. Love the show. Have for 20 plus years. Listen Daily because I believe you guys try to be objective.

[Jack Armstrong]

Absurdity makes me laugh.

[Joe Getty]

Then there's this. Ted writes Hyperbole is a big part of negotiating in the Middle East. Remember the mother of all battles during Desert Storm.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Our old friend Basil, who was from Iraq used to say that. That all the time. He grew up with the blood in the streets.

[Joe Getty]

Rivers of blood. Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe that's it. Maybe he's speaking the language of the Middle east.

[Joe Getty]

Tj, who's been listening since we were promoting the slogan Punch violence in the face.

[Jack Armstrong]

I forgotten that. That is a good slogan.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it's a great one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, TJ writes, thanks for reminding us of that. TJ said, okay, maybe Trump doesn't chicken out on everything, but it was increasingly clear this past week to me into the Iranian terror regime that he was searching for a pretext, however flims to provide a rationale for yet another delay of his mother of all attacks. His threats grew in grandiosity and reeked of desperation. Like what do I have to say to them to bluff them in a concession? Right right now Iran is going to blow up oil and utility infrastructure all over the Gulf and harden their defenses while they have yielded nothing at all because they have no reason to think he will do anything about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now if he starts blowing up infrastructure around the Gulf, Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia and uae, they're going to have something to say about that.

[Joe Getty]

Mike in Missouri relying on you guys to talk me down from my rage over last night's surrender to Iran as it appears Iran will continue to control the Strait of Hormuz, continue to attack Israel and Kuwait all night, and repeatedly still have plans of uranium enrichment. Let's not forget that little fathead in North Korea fired off two ballistic missiles toward Japan Japan last night in response to Trump proving he is all talk. Wow. And he goes on a bit and he mentions he lives close to an Air Force base where every single week I see these kids more than willing to give up their lives for the country, blah blah blah. I really hope these young soldiers and airmen are not being paid to and put at risk solely to manipulate markets. Oof. And then he talks about he's been a Trump supporter through all the controversies. But I think I am officially done after that bull ass last night. And I never cuss.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have said this for many, many years. I read a lot of your history books, usually big things like this. There is so much we don't know. Yes, we don't know at the time and sometimes we don't know for decades. I'm hoping in this case there's a lot of going on behind the scenes we don't know about.

[Joe Getty]

On a completely different topic, Ryan commenting on Gavin Newsom's obnoxious old lady and her super woke hardcore rhetoric.

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our society and our economy, Ryan writes,

[Joe Getty]

I can't shake the fact that Jennifer Newsom gives me the exact same vibes as that NPR CEO Katherine Mayer.

[Jack Armstrong]

Remember her?

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Our reverence for the truth might be a distraction that's getting in the way of finding common ground and getting things done.

[Joe Getty]

The self assured lecturing as they try to tell us reality is as they imagine it rather than how it is. I can't believe they're real people with actual influence. Curious to know if you guys agree with the comparison. KGBabn keep giving blondes a bad name.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ryan it is a type and I've known several myself. Yeah, Gavin Newsom's wife basically stated that there are no no women are racists or greedy or anything. That's an all a man thing.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Are you kidding me?

[Joe Getty]

Sweep away the patriarchy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Okay, we got a lot more on the way if you don't get to get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on

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