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Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Biden
Once Bo died 2015. He died 2015. I think it's 2015.
Jack Armstrong
I'm not sure the months are but I think that was.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that's right, Mr. President.
Jack Armstrong
Bumbly whispery croaky Joe Biden trying to remember when his son passed away. I remember that was part of the one of the headlines when the her report was released in writing the White House citing I can't remember national security reasons or something why we couldn't hear the transcript. And now I think I know what they mean. It just revealed him confused and rambling and weak.
Joe Getty
Yeah. And as the New York Times reported over the weekend on the her tapes coming out, hearing him in her interview is revealing the former president's halting responses to questions by a special counsel show him exactly. I thought this was an interesting thing for the New York Times to write, but true. The president's responses show him exactly as a majority of Americans believed him to be and as Democrats repeatedly insisted he was not. So New York Times even in their Seb headline saying @ the time a majority of Americans believed his brain didn't work.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Long before the debate.
Joe Getty
It's kind of funny that you weren't like talking about that on a daily basis, but. Okay, you're right. Now you're correct.
Jack Armstrong
Now as we've said a thousand times, given the enormity of the story and how it's exactly what a free press is designed to cover. I mean to pass on that is just.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Inexcusable. And it's, it illustrates the point so completely. They are fully partisan hacks.
Joe Getty
I was actually thinking about this over the weekend before we get into more of the, the, the, the her tapes and all that sort of stuff. You, you listening right now? Ask yourself this question. Would you have been twisting your mind into knots if this were a Republican or Trump same situation but it was Trump. Would you have been twisting yourself into knots trying to pretend that he was still okay and could still run again and be president again? Geez, I sure hope not. From. I'm talking about myself. I sure as hell hope I wouldn't have been but said no, he's, he's always had a stutter. Come on, what is wrong with you? Partisan hat? Would I have been doing that? God, I hope not.
Jack Armstrong
Oh no, I wouldn't think so. I mean, unless you are really a cult of personality cultist. Because the gripe from, you know, a lot of Democrats is that, hey, pretending otherwise screwed the pooch. That's what lost the election. Dean Phillips was yelling about it. The only guy with the guts to run in the primary against him. And I was just reminded of the. You remember the great gyrations to get South Carolina to be the first Democratic primary state because it's more diverse and looks more like America, blah, blah, blah. Well, no, it was because they knew if there was any contest whatsoever in New Hampshire and Iowa, Biden would lose and he would be exposed as a terribly weak candidate. But they knew the fix was in South Carolina and they could get him over the edge. But anyway, that's kind of a unnecessary detail. Back to the rambling old man.
Joe Getty
More from the New York Times analysis of the tapes that came out on Friday. And in the audio recording, Mr. Hurst, conclusion that a jury would see Mr. Biden as a sympathetic, well meaning elderly man with a poor memory is not merely valid, it is irrefutable. That's the New York Times.
Jack Armstrong
No, no it's not. He's a hack. He's a part of the hack.
Joe Getty
I like the way they're getting around to it now, but at least they're getting around to it then. Dan Balls in the Washington Post. The truth is the public was on to Biden's decline long before the debate. Yeah, um. As he prepared for a reelection campaign, few obstacles loomed larger than perceptions at his age and acuity made him unfit to serve a second term. It was there in black and white. A Washington Post ABC News poll in February of 23, that's what, five months before the debate found that 6 in 10 Democrats wanted someone other in bind other than Biden to be their nominee, which is an astonishing number for a sitting president in an election year. And it's difficult to believe that his age wasn't the motivating factor Then also in February of 24 before the debate, found that 2/3 of Americans said he did not have the mental Fitness to be president again. Two thirds. That was in February.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. I would love to ask the bigfoot media guys, hey, see if you can. This is a riddle. See if you can puzzle, puzzle this one out. There is only one class of Americans who didn't recognize Biden's mental decline and were talking about it openly. I'll give you a hint. It's a particular profession.
Joe Getty
Well, right.
Jack Armstrong
There's only one tiny narrow segment. Can you name it?
Joe Getty
I really like Dan Balz of the Washington Post but lovely man. The fact that he didn't bring it down to a paragraph where he kind of deals with the fact that how did 2/3 of Americans know this.
Jack Armstrong
Months.
Joe Getty
Before the debate and we missed it. I mean how do you not. I don't get it.
Jack Armstrong
Right. All right, well let's play some audio then. We've got a bunch of follow ups including why all of, all of this matters. You know, I, I'm, I'm torn. Let's, let's do 51. Michael. Nice and loud because it's kind of mumbly and quiet.
Joe Biden
But what's happened in the meantime is that as. And Trump gets elected in November of 2017. 2016. All right, so.
Jack Armstrong
That'S when we left office. January 2017.
Joe Biden
Okay, but that's a chunk is sworn.
Joe Getty
In.
Joe Biden
And in 2017 Beau had passed.
Joe Getty
And.
Joe Biden
This is personal.
Jack Armstrong
The whole not remembering when was the election? When's the inauguration? Why do I have 2017 here?
Joe Getty
More from the analysis in the New York Times. Listen to this. A simple question about the documents that were stored at the Naval observatory elicits an 11 minute response. It begins with a young Mr. Biden winning an international tort competition in law school, winds through an early legal case involving a 23 year old man who lost part of his penis in an oil refinery accident and concludes with Mr. Biden winning a seat on the New York, on the New Castle Delaware city council in 1970. Again and again Mr. Biden's answers the prosecutor not as someone under federal investigation, but as an aging politician recounting his life story for posterity.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. Wow.
Joe Getty
So he gets a question and he goes through an 11 minute this is my life old man Ramble according to the New York Times. I haven't listened to the whole thing but yeah, that's not normal.
Jack Armstrong
52 Michael.
Joe Biden
The library has two filing cabinets in it and it has built in to the walls. I built that home built into the walls. A space for a copy machine for a. What do you call it? This is when they send these to A fax mach.
Joe Getty
Shelves, perfect example right there. So he gets asked a question and he goes into how he built a shelf for a fax machine.
Jack Armstrong
And he can't remember what a fax machine is, but they remind him, sir, it's called a fax machine.
Joe Biden
Next clip top opens a shelving and the bottom opens a filing. So the bottom. So when you open this up the first, the door on the first door there on the left. Oh my God, you see where there's a printer and there what do they call the machine? That's the fax machine. And then again the thing below I don't use anymore.
Joe Getty
I never. Sir, this is a Wendy's.
Jack Armstrong
So John Fund, writing in the National Review on the other side of the aisle from the New York Times says we need congressional hearings to learn the full story about the, the great cover up and, and, and why he is addressing. Isn't this just rear view mirror kicking of a guy. And then he goes into the transcript of her interview. Yeah, I would agree. And you know, reveal some just devastating quotes from various folks which we'll skip for now just in the interest of time. But there are other good reasons why the House Oversight Committee's investigation is useful and necessary. Number one, there was indeed a massive cover up inside the White House. And they mention the that the Atlantic had reported bluntly this week. Dozens of people in Biden's orbit suspected he was not physically or mentally equipped to be the President of the US Then.
Joe Getty
That's a good word, suspected.
Jack Armstrong
Yet they helped him seek that office and keep it when he couldn't reliably perform its duties and then sickeningly try to return office Biden to that office for four more years, even though they did not think that he could serve during the first term.
Joe Getty
Joe Jack Armstrong suspected Joe Getty liked whiskey.
Jack Armstrong
Number two, Biden's condition began to deteriorate as early as a decade ago. Tapper and Thompson in the new book report those close to him say the first signs he was deteriorating emerged after the death of his beloved son beau in 2015. Biden was really struggling. In 2017, his cognitive capacity seemed to have been failing him. The authors of the book make it clear that previous coverups of the health problems of Presidents Wilson, Roosevelt, Kennedy pale by comparison with the Biden cover up.
Joe Getty
Absolutely.
Jack Armstrong
If we had won, people in the Biden world believe there would have been a constitutional crisis, Thompson told the New Yorker. Because clearly the people in his inner circle were not willing to cede power. They knew that he would have to be removed from office.
Joe Getty
How about a national crisis? If there had been an emergency that required a decision during one of his moments where he's rambling on about the shelf he built for the fax machine and the.
Jack Armstrong
What do you call it? Machine. Yeah. Fund also points out that there is an unhealthy confluence of interests between the White House and the reporters who most frequently cover it. And he into a great deal of detail why this is unholy and unacceptable. And then he quotes like guys like Chris Soliza, former reporter for the Post and cnn. This was a cover up, plain and simple. For at least two years or close to it, senior people in the White House knew that Biden's condition was bad enough that it needed to be concealed from people working the administration. He leaves out how compliant he was.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah, Come on. Then you got to get back to that poll that Dan Balz was quoting 2/3 of Americans. Newey's brain didn't work in early 24.
Jack Armstrong
You know what?
Joe Getty
There's a little more to be said.
Jack Armstrong
And I don't want to rush through it. One, an account from someone who was covering him on the campaign trail in 2020 and said he was clearly losing it in 2020. And one more list of names why this is important to talk about even though it's in the rearview mirror.
Joe Getty
Okay? Oh, absolutely. Mostly because the media. We have to have a working media. We have to or we're doomed. The Founding Fathers knew that. It's always been true. We're just going to give up on this.
Jack Armstrong
And you might want to not put in power the people who have lied about Biden's condition the most egregiously. And there's a list.
Joe Getty
Okay. We got lots of stuff to do today. I hope Trump's going to talk to Putin on the phone. This could be an historic phone call, among other things. On the way. Stay here.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
A driver for Amazon was fired after she was caught on a ring camera defecating on a porch, said the homeowner. But that's what I ordered. Hey now.
Jack Armstrong
So.
Joe Getty
We'Ll.
Jack Armstrong
It's an awful joke.
Joe Getty
We'll be talking about Joe Biden's cancer they got diagnosed with and more about all the kind of things around the diagnosis of it, what that might mean or not. And his brain. So his brain and his personality cover up.
Jack Armstrong
That's right.
Joe Getty
So Saturday Night Live, it was their season finale on Saturday night. That was Colin Jost there he is the head writer and hosts the news and is married to Scarlett Johansson, the famous actress. And she was the host. And that was all fun. But they've started this tradition on Saturday Night Live several years back where Colin Jost, white guy, and Michael Che, black guy, this matters. Write jokes for each other for the final episode that they have not seen ahead of time. And it has become a thing where they write jokes that will make each other look really, really bad and particularly racially. Michael Che writes jokes that are really racist for Colin Jost to say. And it's a really interesting premise that has seemed to work where then Colin Jost makes jokes you could never make under any other circumstances. People laugh at them, but nobody gets angry about it. Because the point is I don't even. It's almost too complicated.
Jack Armstrong
Well, it's everybody. I mean, the basic premise of the thing is clear enough. Why that makes it entirely okay is the really interesting part.
Joe Getty
I guess I'm more interested in the reverse. If you can make it okay with that little thing, then why can't it be okay, like just in general to make that kind of joke? Of course I don't mean that it's a joke.
Jack Armstrong
Right? Or if Colin Jost were to do the joke, then let everybody go nuts, the lynch mob come from for him, then say Michael Che wrote that, then would they be okay if you didn't know in advance? Or let's, let's examine this.
Joe Getty
So we've played them in the past and they're uncomfortable and funny. This year they were so over the top. I. I'm not comfortable playing them. I really am not. I was watching, I was watching it thinking, we can't air that. We can't air that. We can't air that. This is the only one I thought we could air. So it goes to Colin Jost joke written by Michael Che. They put up on the screen a picture of some sort of monkey gorilla thingies. And then here is Colin Jost's joke. A new study finds that the hoots and grunts of bonobos show signs of complex thoughts similar to human language. Oh, so like that Awful halftime. I thought that was pretty funny.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. Wow. Yeah.
Joe Getty
As a racist joke. The whole jujitsu of. Because the crowd laughs and I assume people at home are laughing, then why can we not? If you're laughing, which is an enjoyable thing to do. I like laughing, you like laughing. People like comedy. If we can laugh at it, if we do the judo of twisting this around, why can it exist otherwise?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I mean, it's a great topic. I happen to just become aware that black fatigue, quote, unquote, went viral, like, last week on social media.
Joe Getty
I don't know that term.
Jack Armstrong
People complaining about aberrant behavior by black people. A number of people making the comment that, well, there's aberrant behavior from every group of people on earth, which is unquestionably true, but there are plenty of black people posting it about it, which made it okay. The truth of it doesn't change. But the source matters. In the modern world. Armstrong and Getty, doesn't it take some time for prostate cancer to develop to a point where it would spread to the bones? Oh, he's had this for many years, maybe even a decade, growing there and spreading. That's right.
Joe Getty
So this is the lead story on the New York Post, the Scarborough interview with their doctor about Biden's cancer on MSNBC this morning. It goes on.
Jack Armstrong
He most certainly, you are saying, had it when he was president of the United States. Oh, yeah. He did not develop it in the last hundred, two hundred days. He had it while he was president. He probably had it at the start of his presidency in 2020. He's 21. Yes, that. I don't think there's any disagreement about that.
Joe Getty
So what is being implied or asked here? Joe Scarborough clearly had talked to somebody or just knows from his own cancer experience, him and his family, that this was probably around a long time. So he wanted to make that obvious to people. Joe Biden's had this for a very long time.
Jack Armstrong
And not because he wants people to understand how slow prostate cancer advances. He's hinting at something.
Joe Getty
Right. And I thought it was mostly just so were they, like, not getting stuff tested that you should. That you would normally get tested when you're older because they didn't want to know, or is this one of many things that they did know and hid? Brian Stelter of CNN took it a step further. So we were playing the her tapes a little bit earlier. Those are the audio tapes of Joe Biden when he was grilled years ago. We had read about them, but we hadn't heard them they came out on Friday. The New York Times analysis was, well, here's proof that his brain didn't work a long, long time ago. I mean, there's no getting around it. Guy who's in no position to be president or running for president. That's what the New York Times took from the her tapes. Brian Stelter of CNN says he's questioning the timing of Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis announcement, insisting that it was extraordinary that the news broke just as the former president was battling an onslaught of criticism on the coverup of his cognitive decline while in the White House. This timing is too much, Stelter said during an appearance on CNN yesterday. We know from the statement from his personal spokesman, Biden learned. I'm using finger quotes on that one of the diagnosis on Friday. What was the biggest story on Friday? Stelter says on CNN it was the release of those audio excerpts from his conversations.
Jack Armstrong
I'm sorry, it's just too much to have Brian Stelter, you know, leap from the side of the criminals to the cops and saying it's time we did something about these criminals.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I don't know if I can eat. That is a excellent story that I'm all over, but I don't know if I can get there. He might be right. He might absolutely be right. So did the Biden people hang on to this? Have they known he had this cancer for years?
Jack Armstrong
It wouldn't surprise me given the quality of his medical care. Sure.
Joe Getty
If you listen to the show, you know, I'm always shooting down the whole. The timing is a suspicious conspiracy because there's a story every day that a White House would like to cover up. I mean, there's always a negative story out there. So people, if something comes out and so suspicious timing with oil prices going up or whatever it is. And I always think, what, whatever this one, though, this is, this is something they had to have had. They had to. There's no way they just found out he's got prostate cancer.
Jack Armstrong
And I think the takeaway is pretty obvious because a prostate cancer is in most cases extremely slow moving. You can live with it, you can deal with it, keep an eye on it, that sort of thing in many, many cases anyway. And he would absolutely have. Biden would have been doing a favor to say, hey fellas, it's important you get the exam, talk to your do, blah, blah, blah. Men's health, right. We got a length of it. Right. And the rest of it. And the reason they didn't was because there was a proceed a perception based on, well, everything that Joe Biden was unfit for another term in office. I would argue he wasn't fit for the first term in office, but yeah, so it all fits together. It's. I don't know, it seems fairly obvious.
Joe Getty
To me with the book coming out and the her tapes and everything like that. So Megan McCain tweeted this out. John McCain's daughter, maybe. Remember she tweeted this out over the weekend. And she's a political. I mean she's on talk shows all the time. She's a regular on Halperin's podcast and that sort of stuff. I don't know if it's just my being bias or my background, but I don't want to hear anything else about Biden's health. Cover up, tell alls interviews with staff, etc. Let the Biden family be in peace right now. This is all just so sad and imprudent. Cancer is the absolute worst. It's hell. It is incredibly difficult for any family wishing nothing but healing. I don't think it's appropriate in these times for politics. So there's Megan McCain saying we shouldn't be talking about the her tapes or the tell all books or any of this stuff with the announcement coming out. I think the announcement came out just so people would react the way you just reacted. Megan.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I'm, I'm sold. I'm, I'm through.
Joe Getty
Do you feel any need to pull back on talking about the, his broken brain in the media coverage because he's got cancer. I think he, he knew. Either knew he had cancer or Dr. Jill hid it from him for like 10 years.
Jack Armstrong
100%. You think she'd be better at that as a doctor? Yeah, I'm 100. 100% rejecting Meghan McCain's idea. That's, that's ridiculous. Especially for following reasons. Number one, as this Barton Swaim writes for the Wall Street Journal opinion pages. He says what's amusing is that the only people deceived from 2020 through 2024. We're talking about starting in 2020 now, folks. The only people deceived were the deceivers. The argument in the press about when it became clear that Mr. Biden wasn't up to the job. Was it 2023? As early as 2021 also makes me laugh. I witnessed Biden's frailty during the 2020 primary and wrote about it. I was covering the dueling campaigns of Tom Steyer and Mr. Biden. Very few people thought Mr. Biden would win anything but South Carolina precisely because he appeared too old to govern. Former vice president come in fourth, and I won fifth in New Hampshire. A win for him in South Carolina seemed likely, but he was losing everywhere else. And then he. He goes through some of the details of the campaign and how it was Pete Buttigieg, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabet Warren who were beating him. And the Democratic Party said, oh, my God, what are we gonna do? And James Clyburn took over. And he said, I'll fix South Carolina for you, essentially, and. And we'll get old man Biden. At least he's a mainstream ish Democrat. But back to the piece from Barton Swaim. The first time I saw him in North Charleston, I thought he might be having a stroke or a heart attack when he spoke. We're more familiar with the gravelly whisper now than we were then. He was barely audible. His words slurred together and made no sense. I noted in my report that he several times said North Carolina when he meant North Charleston, an important thing to get right when trying to win over South Carolina voters. He was ostensibly there to talk about his campaign's housing plan, but it was obvious he had no idea what the plan was. Also unknown to him were the names of any of the state lawmakers standing with him. Then he was to appear at a rally at the College of Charleston. He was two hours late, even though his campaign bus was parked right next door. 2000 people waiting for him. No explanation why. He said, I think he was asleep or just couldn't. He wasn't up to it. And then still later that night, he spoke briefly at the state party's first in the south dinner. Mr. Biden concluded his remarks in a way that should have, but evidently didn't, make everyone in the room squirm. And I quote, and we played this at the time. My name's Joe Biden. I'm a Democratic candidate for the United States Senate. Look me over if you like what you see. Help out. If not, vote for the other Biden. This is in 2020. And then the final note from some of the folks at the Free Press, I think it was Nellie Bowles. I'm not sure, but she says, looking forward, the Democratic Party's in trouble. If Ben Rhodes, the failed novelist and Iran apologist who represent the Obama administration at Castro's funeral, has become the voice of reason. Because Rhodes said, and I quote, democrats need not understand that being able to say Biden shouldn't have run again is not just about the past. It's about having any credibility with voters in the future, which is similar to comments made from Ro Khanna, possible 2028 primary contestant. Khanna, by the way, praised Biden as completely mentally sharp in 2024. Other Democrats are who are definitely running in 28 are content to embrace the Schumer method of changing the subject to avoid explaining why they defended Biden so passionately in 20. But we won't let them forget JB Pritzker in 24. He's on the ball. The man knows more than most of us have forgotten. Pritzker in 25. Look, all this stuff about his health or, you know, commentary that people are making in books, frankly, that's very backward looking. Chris Murphy, Democratic Connecticut in 24. Joe Biden is incredibly competent and he's incredibly effective.
Joe Getty
Incredible.
Jack Armstrong
Murphy, Murphy this year. Yeah, literally, not credibly, Murphy this year. Obviously in retrospect, we should have done something different. Pete Buddha Judge last year. The president, the boss I work for, is a focused and disciplined leader. Buddha Judge this year. Right now, with the benefit of hindsight, I think most people would agree Biden shouldn't have run. We're also not in a position to wallow in hindsight.
Joe Getty
So again, I asked the question I asked earlier of would you have covered up for Trump in the same situation if you're a big Trump fan or make it an anonymous Republican president. I got. I hope I wouldn't.
Jack Armstrong
No, I sure as hell hope I would.
Joe Getty
I mean, it was so obvious.
Jack Armstrong
I'll prove it right now. Trump yelling at Walmart and threatening them not to raise their prices. Kamala Harris had done that. I'd be going berserk. I'd be red faced. So I'm calling him out for it right now. Yeah, that's crazy. You sound like Hugo Chavez.
Joe Getty
Yeah, we got to talk about that later. But so what do you make of like Stelter on CNN saying he gets a diagnosis Friday, the day the her tape comes out? Come on.
Jack Armstrong
I make the same thing of him I've always made. He's a gutless lion weasel.
Joe Getty
No, no, no, not, not of Stelter himself, but of the.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, sorry. Okay.
Joe Getty
Do you think that is what's happening? Do you think the Biden people put out a cancer diagnosis?
Jack Armstrong
Oh, that part.
Joe Getty
To try to get the heat off of them.
Jack Armstrong
That's. That would be very much in character for Dr. Jill. Yes, 100%. She is effing unhinged, man.
Joe Getty
And you're really going a long way to. Yeah, I mean, imagine doing this in your life. You go to doctor, you find out you got cancer. I'm not gonna use this until I need to. With my wife, my boss, my kids. I'm gonna hang on to this until it's, you know. Got some more. I can get some more out of it. I mean, that is weird.
Jack Armstrong
Michael, I don't know what you're doing over there. Working on a fan letter to Scarlett Johansson or something like that, but where's Our favorite Do Dr. Jill clip? Come on. You did great. Joe. Come on.
Joe Getty
You answered all the questions. I mean, that is some serious conniving when you hold onto a cancer diagnosis until it's got the most political use.
Jack Armstrong
Tell me if this strikes you as blanking unhinged. As soon as Michael can find it. Here it is. Here it comes. The wonders of the search function not to bear fruit. Juicy, ripe fruit.
Joe Getty
There it is.
Jack Armstrong
Take a bite. It's hard.
Joe Getty
It's hard to imagine how our computer works that it takes this long to search for Jill Biden.
Jack Armstrong
Joe, you did such a great job. You answered every question.
Joe Biden
You knew all the.
Jack Armstrong
Is that blanking unhinged or not?
Joe Getty
Yeah, but I gotta turn it to the crowd that cheered. Are they lying or deceiving themselves?
Jack Armstrong
That too.
Joe Getty
I mean, that was like two hours after the debate. The crowd cheering. Yeah, he did.
Jack Armstrong
Hell yeah.
Joe Getty
What?
Jack Armstrong
Look, if you're a hack, you hack. And the power. The word went out from the powers that be. All right, we need some real cheering. Like it. Like that debate that, you know, has rocked the world. We gotta act like it didn't happen. Who's. Are you ready? Let me. Let me hear. Good. Yeah.
Joe Getty
I'm assuming. Assuming. I'm assuming Joe Biden's made very few decisions about anything through any of this. I don't think he's capable. So, yeah, it's Jill or somebody. She finds out her husband might have cancer in his bones. This might be the end of him. I'm gonna hold on to this to just the right moment. The her taper coming. Coming out. That's the day we're gonna release it. That is some serious heavy duty manipulation of a storyline.
Jack Armstrong
And absolutely in character for the good doctor. Wow.
Joe Getty
What do you think? Text line 4.
Jack Armstrong
Joe, you did such a great job.
Joe Biden
You answered every question. You knew all the fact.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty too strong on a three.
Joe Getty
And look out. Caitlin Clark pushes Angel Reese. And Angel Reese gets right up into.
Jack Armstrong
Caitlin Clark afterwards has something to say.
Joe Getty
As Clark walks away. So gonna talk wnba, believe it or not. So I just noticed looking up at the television, both Good Morning America and CBS early show did a long segment on that play in which Caitlin Clark, with a flagrant foul, knocked down her nemesis, Angel Reese in the opening matchup between them in the wnba.
Jack Armstrong
Meow.
Joe Getty
Is it kind of interesting, just as a basketball fan? So Caitlin Clark plays for the Indiana Fever, who are among the teams expected to win the whole thing this year. They did a smart thing there, the ownership, and realized, oh, we got the best player in the world. Let's get somebody around her, and we can. We can win it all. And they did. But I have watched this many times with players throughout my life who come into the league from college is, like, really popular and hot. They get pushed around a lot. And she kind of did last year. She clearly, this year has decided we ain't getting pushed around this year. And I remember watching, geez, all kinds of Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, LeBron, Michael Jordan, you name it it. Who had to come into the league and show this. And if you watch that whole play under the basket, one of her players gets shoved, she points at the ref like, what the hell is that? No call. She immediately flagrant fouls her nemesis like, we ain't doing this this year. You are not going to manhandle us this year. We're not doing. And they won by, like, 30, by the way.
Jack Armstrong
But hockey rules.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Gonna be the tough guy. All right.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It was. It was a pretty cool play. And I like the way they both handled it, too. In the post game, Caitlyn Clark says, a regular play, move on. It's no big deal. And even Angel Reese, who could have made a big deal out of it and turned it racial like a lot of people want to do. She said it was an NBA. It was a. It was a basketball play. No big deal. So I like that. But New York Times with an article, put every Caitlin Clark game on national television and making the argument for it on how, first of all, last year, they had the first game with more than a million viewers in decades. They actually had 24 games with more than a million viewers, 22 of them featuring Caitlin Clark. As Charles Barkley said last year, the WNBA is insane if they don't just try to ride this Caitlin Clark thing as far as they can.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, that's easy for him to say as a white guy. Wait, I'm sorry. The control room is talking to me. Is that right?
Joe Getty
Charles, bro, for whatever reason, people are interested. Cash in on it. And that's what the New York Times is saying. Put every game on national television. This is clearly something people are interested and not the other stuff.
Jack Armstrong
Right. And look, you're in the entertainment business.
Joe Getty
Don't.
Jack Armstrong
Don't question why. Don't worry about why.
Joe Getty
Just do it right. Be interesting.
Jack Armstrong
And then all the great. You know, even if there is a racial component. And I think it's mostly that she's one of the best shooters ever and will shoot from anywhere inside the stadium and sometimes from the parking lot lot, but, you know, that'll highlight all the great black players in the league. If people are tuning in. Quit worrying about this.
Joe Getty
She scored more points than anybody in college basketball history, male or female. And the ball didn't go in more because she was white.
Jack Armstrong
Well, that's what you think. Those hoops, I don't know, they're orange. They have a certain kinship with white people, if you know what I mean. Trump. White, orange, et cetera. White supremacy, racism, good people on both sides. I think you know where I'm going with this. You people are clowns.
Joe Getty
You brought up what Trump said about Walmart. We should touch on that. Oh, he had some good posts over the weekend. He took on Bruce Springsteen. He took on Walmart. He took on Taylor Swift. He's on the phone with Putin as we speak.
Jack Armstrong
The President took on Taylor Swift. He says admiringly.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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Podcast Details:
In the "Juicy, Ripe Fruit!" episode, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into a range of pressing political and cultural topics. Central to their discussion is an analysis of President Joe Biden's cognitive health, media bias in political reporting, the suspicious timing of Biden's cancer diagnosis announcement, and commentary on recent cultural events, including a segment from Saturday Night Live and highlights from the WNBA. The episode is marked by the hosts' critical perspectives and incorporation of notable quotes to bolster their arguments.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to examining President Joe Biden's cognitive abilities, with Armstrong and Getty referencing recent analyses from reputable news sources.
New York Times & Washington Post Analyses:
Jack Armstrong criticizes media coverage:
"Given the enormity of the story and how it's exactly what a free press is designed to cover. I mean to pass on that is just inexcusable."
(Timestamp: 02:32)
Joe Getty references a New York Times headline:
"A jury would see Mr. Biden as a sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory is not merely valid, it is irrefutable."
(Timestamp: 04:31)
Public Perception Polls:
Joe Getty cites a February 2023 Washington Post and ABC News poll:
"6 in 10 Democrats wanted someone other in Biden rather than Biden to be their nominee."
(Timestamp: 04:47)
Joe Getty and Jack Armstrong discuss a February 2024 poll indicating:
"2/3 of Americans said he did not have the mental fitness to be president again."
(Timestamp: 04:47)
The hosts argue that mainstream media outlets exhibit partisan biases, especially in their coverage of President Biden.
Jack Armstrong condemns the media's handling:
"They are fully partisan hacks."
(Timestamp: 02:45)
Joe Getty criticizes the media's selective reporting:
"The only class of Americans who didn't recognize Biden's mental decline and were talking about it openly. It's a particular profession."
(Timestamp: 05:50)
Discussion on Coverage Gaps:
The hosts emphasize the absence of daily discourse on Biden's cognitive issues, attributing it to media partisanship.
Armstrong and Getty scrutinize the announcement timing of Biden's prostate cancer diagnosis, suggesting political motivations behind its revelation.
Joe Getty posits:
"Biden people put out a cancer diagnosis to try to get the heat off of them."
(Timestamp: 29:39)
Jack Armstrong agrees with the skepticism:
"That's very much in character for Dr. Jill. Yes, 100%. She is effing unhinged, man."
(Timestamp: 29:44)
Analysis of Announcement Timing:
The hosts link the cancer diagnosis announcement to the release of the controversial "her tapes," insinuating coordinated timing to divert attention.
The hosts critique a recent Saturday Night Live segment where Colin Jost and Michael Che exchange racially charged jokes.
Joe Getty explains the premise:
"They write jokes that will make each other look really, really bad and particularly racially."
(Timestamp: 14:40)
Jack Armstrong questions the acceptability:
"If Colin Jost were to do the joke, then let everybody go nuts... would they be okay if you didn't know in advance?"
(Timestamp: 16:03)
Discussion on Racial Sensitivity:
The hosts debate the boundaries of comedy, especially concerning racial undertones, highlighting the discomfort and societal implications.
Armstrong and Getty shift focus to sports, analyzing a notable play between Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese in the WNBA.
Joe Getty describes the play:
"Caitlin Clark's strategic flagrant foul against Angel Reese prevented physical intimidation, leading to a significant win."
(Timestamp: 32:37)
Jack Armstrong comments on media coverage:
"The New York Times is advocating for more national coverage of Caitlin Clark's games due to their high viewership."
(Timestamp: 35:00)
Discussion on Racial Dynamics in Sports:
The hosts explore the racial narratives intertwined with the game's coverage, questioning media motivations and representation.
The episode concludes with a brief overview of former President Donald Trump's latest actions and public statements.
Joe Getty highlights Trump's confrontational tweets:
"Trump yelling at Walmart and threatening them not to raise their prices."
(Timestamp: 36:03)
Jack Armstrong mentions an upcoming phone call:
"He's on the phone with Putin as we speak."
(Timestamp: 36:08)
Speculation on Political Implications:
The hosts speculate on the potential impact of Trump's interactions with international figures amidst domestic controversies.
Joe Getty at [04:47]:
"A jury would see Mr. Biden as a sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory is not merely valid, it is irrefutable."
Jack Armstrong at [02:32]:
"Given the enormity of the story and how it's exactly what a free press is designed to cover. I mean to pass on that is just inexcusable."
Joe Getty at [29:39]:
"Biden people put out a cancer diagnosis to try to get the heat off of them."
Jack Armstrong at [16:03]:
"If Colin Jost were to do the joke, then let everybody go nuts... would they be okay if you didn't know in advance?"
In this episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty provide a critical examination of President Joe Biden's cognitive health and the media's role in shaping public perception. They question the integrity of media reporting, analyze the timing of significant health announcements, and offer cultural critiques on recent entertainment and sports events. The hosts' unwavering skepticism and emphasis on partisan biases highlight their commitment to scrutinizing political figures and media narratives.
Note: This summary intentionally excludes advertisements, introductions, and outros to focus solely on the episode's substantive content.