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Jack Armstrong
Just got a brand new tattoo. It's huge. It says no tattoos. It's one more thing.
Katie
Armstrong and Getty.
Jack Armstrong
One more thing. Or how about tattoos are stupid? That would be a good one.
Katie
A good tattoo. Where would you put it? On your forehead?
Jack Armstrong
Get well. Or around my neck.
Unnamed Guest
That tattoo that went viral, it says no regerts.
Katie
Yeah. That became a website. No, Regerts is a website where people post bad tattoos.
Jack Armstrong
That is one of my guilty pleasures. It's been a while since I've done it, but going to one of those bad tattoos websites where it's either no regerts or various misspellings or somebody gets, like, their baby's face tattooed on them, but it looks like a demon because the artist is just not that good.
Katie
Oh, my God.
Jack Armstrong
First, maybe they birthed the demon. I don't know. I wasn't there. But yeah, I've got to admit, I've logged some serious time with those websites.
Katie
Yeah, the. The tribal stuff where. Or where it's in a foreign language, you know, those are often a mess.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, the Chinese characters that frequently aren't what the tattoo artist told you they were.
Katie
Right.
Jack Armstrong
It says freedom of spirit. No, it actually says fish. 30% off.
Unnamed Guest
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Or something like that.
Katie
It's a soy sauce brand.
Unnamed Guest
Right.
Jack Armstrong
So I was expressing my love for AI specifically chat GPT just because that's the one I've tried and I want to try Grok and some other ones, but I thought, all right, why not? I just asked what kind of tattoo should I get? And it told me to find the right tattoo. Consider what resonates with you, your personal style and any symbolic meaning you'd like to convey. Think about the tattoos, placement, your lifestyle and your long term comfort with the design.
Katie
Yeah, the placement thing is interesting because I've, I haven't for years, but I used to think about getting a tattoo. It's only because I even come up with a good choice that I never got a tattoo. I'm not anti. I just couldn't think of anything that worked for me, but it was always like, do I want it to be someplace visible or not? And if it's someplace that's not visible really to anyone but me or people that enter into a special relationship with.
Jack Armstrong
Me, prison guards, et cetera.
Katie
Right. Doctors and prison guards, pretty much, then what's the point? I often thought, I mean, what am I, what am I expressing if I'm not expressing it to anybody but like two people on earth?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I've had the same thought roughly. Although I think, you know, if I'm going to get one, and I've considered it for years, it would probably be the classic, you know, shoulder location.
Katie
Right? Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And that, you know, it's usually just between you and your companion slash prison guard, slash doctor.
Katie
You're, you're a lot younger than us, Katie, but. So it might be hard for you to realize this, but back in the day, tattoos were not very many men had tattoo. No women had tattoos. If you came across a tattoo, a woman with a tattoo, that was crazy. And not even that many men did. But my uncle had a tattoo when I was a kid and I always thought it was so cool. He was a really buff dude and he was a marine and fought in Vietnam and he had a bulldog on his arm. And I always just thought that was so badass. But he was a badass guy. You can put that same bulldog on me and it wouldn't be the same thing.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, so you like bulldogs, right? They are such pretty dogs.
Unnamed Guest
I remember when they were frowned upon. And growing up, my parents both were very wary of me getting them.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Katie
I'm telling you, I've said this to people before, younger people, and they can't believe it. Like, I worked at a bar for years. If a girl, like a big nightclub, country club, like 300 people on a Saturday night, if a woman had walked in with tattoos, everybody would have been Talking in the entire bar. It would have been so shocking and I know.
Jack Armstrong
And all sorts of assumptions made which honestly might have at the time been fairly accurate probably. It's, it's funny because that sounds terrible to say, but. No. We all intentionally and semi intentionally send each other social signals about who we are, the way we'd like to be seen, you know, every day through what we wear and the way we look in our hair and whatever.
Katie
That's one of the interesting things about, about tattoos is it certainly lost its edginess. You. If you're a. I'll go with girls again. But if you're a, if you're a female with a tattoo, it does not signify. I'm on the edge and kind of live life the way I want. Because you could be as vanilla, mainstream, normal, cul de sac, suburban, safe as it gets and be a tattoo person.
Unnamed Guest
Now am I right now it's defined by the type of tattoo, you know, if you're the vanilla and very dainty and whatnot, they have the very dainty style tattoo. I have a dolphin now.
Katie
I like dolphins. Yeah, but dolphin on my ankle.
Jack Armstrong
Figured that because you have a dolphin. You know, I'm looking at the chat GPT advice. It's very thorough tips for choosing a tattoo. Meaning and symbolism, personal style placement, long term comfort research. Tattoo artists, take your time. Here are different styles and they have like six or seven different styles. Things to consider, cost, pain. The pain level can vary depending on the location, size of the tattoo as well as the in your individual pain tolerance.
Katie
I, I was thought about getting a, an American flag on my arm in the traditional place, like after 9, 11 when we were all being extra patriotic. And then somebody said it really should be only if you're in the military. And I thought, yeah, you're probably right.
Jack Armstrong
So I disagree with that, but I.
Unnamed Guest
Don'T agree with that.
Jack Armstrong
I stand ready to be talked off that point, but no, I disagree with that.
Katie
I didn't want to be a poser. I didn't want to be a military poser at the time when people were like joining up and everything. Like it.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, fair enough. To each their own. I've thought of like getting.
Katie
I don't mind being a poser. I'm a poser in all kinds of other ways. I don't want to be a. I'm in the military patriotic poser. I don't want to be that kind of poser.
Jack Armstrong
You know, that's funny. Speaking of tattoos and posers and my, my son, I won't bore you with the specifics, but he made a poster that included a cartoon of a dude with a cigarette and sunglasses. And the caption was so punk. It's poser. So poser. It's punk. That was an interesting, interesting concept.
Katie
We've come full circle.
Jack Armstrong
So the horseshoe theory. So the pain. How would you describe the pain? Katie of. I mean, it's not like you've gotten face tattoos or there are certain parts of the body people get tattoos. I can't even imagine A, Y and B. That's kind of hurt like fire, but, yeah, it's.
Unnamed Guest
It's uncomfortable. It definitely does depend on where. And I have had plenty of very. And I will tell you. The ribs.
Katie
You have tattoos on your ribs?
Unnamed Guest
Yeah, I have. I have a tattoo that goes right across the front and then on the side kind of under my arm.
Katie
Is that. I've heard people use the phrase, I don't say this word, but it starts with a T&RE. First to women's body parts. A T. Chandelier. It's not that, is it?
Unnamed Guest
Well, it's the podcast, so you can.
Katie
But I don't say that word even on the podcast. I don't say that word in my real life.
Unnamed Guest
Twat. Is that the word?
Katie
No, no, no, no. Higher up.
Unnamed Guest
Tit.
Jack Armstrong
He won't say tit.
Unnamed Guest
You won't say tit?
Katie
No.
Jack Armstrong
You're a farm boy. It's as useless as tits on a boar. Go ahead and say that.
Katie
T, I, T, T, Y. Chandelier. I've heard that phrase.
Unnamed Guest
Oh, I've never heard that.
Katie
Oh, you haven't? Google it. There's. There are websites for just those. They're so popular.
Unnamed Guest
Talking about boobies, considering mine says I love my mother and Gaelic. I hope it's not a titty chandelier.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. Maybe she was a great breastfeeder. Anyway.
Katie
When you say it, it sounds funny.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I don't use that term just because it's childish and, like, it reminds me of adolescent boys who'd never been with a woman.
Katie
Right. I feel like I'm above that word.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. Okay. Well, you know what? You probably are my. Well, a person I am very close with, genetically, has a tattoo in the rib cagel area. It is a quote from a favorite book and a comfort that through the years, that particular quote.
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Katie
Well, some. A female was telling me this was after St. Patrick's Day. They brought up the fact that they have an ass adjacent shamrock. And. And that. That's what started me on the whole, if nobody ever sees it except, you know, like, your husband or whatever, what is. What are you doing? Is it for you? I guess it's for you.
Unnamed Guest
Yeah, that's. That's your own thing or it's a party trick.
Katie
A party trick.
Unnamed Guest
Hey, look what I got.
Jack Armstrong
That's some party. Any tattoos you regret, Katie? Yeah. As the lone tattooed member of the crew, it's.
Unnamed Guest
It's kind of. And it's also the way that it happened. We were in Hawaii, I was in high school, and we just so happened to run into Nikki six's nanny, who was watching the kids while he was.
Katie
Six from the crew.
Unnamed Guest
From Motley Crue.
Jack Armstrong
Motley Cruz.
Unnamed Guest
His nanny? Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Unnamed Guest
So he and his nanny, they were out and about. The nanny stuck around. Mom ended up talking to nanny and deciding she had to have a tattoo. That was how we ended up there. And we ended up in the shop. And my mom got her dolphin that's jumping over a shamrock, which I know you've heard me say this before, but she always says, going to end up as an eel in a palm tree. And I apparently just wouldn't shut up about wanting a tattoo. And my dad said, fine, you want one so bad, let's do it. And I decided on two hearts next to each other. One filled in like the American flag, the other filled in like the Irish flag. Unfortunately, no, it wasn't a horrible idea. Except for the tattoo artist did the American flag vertically, so it looks like Puerto Rico.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, well, the Irish and Puerto Ricans have a long history of cooperating on many projects.
Unnamed Guest
Right. And that's one of the many jokes that happens now. It's just it. It turned into this whole thing. My dad and the Second. The second that tattoo gun touched me, I came about 3 inches off the table, and I looked at my dad, and he went, nope, gotta finish. I was like, oh, no. And it was. Yeah, it was a. A learning lesson as well.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Unnamed Guest
Yeah. And then I also have a K on my shoulder in case I forget what my initials are. I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. I don't know.
Unnamed Guest
It feels like bee stings. Like, if you've ever been stung by a bee, just imagine that happening a lot and can kind of the heat from afterwards.
Katie
Yeah, I kind of. I kind of like the sleeved look on a lot of people. I don't think it would look good on me, but on some people, I think it looks really good.
Unnamed Guest
My. My dad just finished his. His sleeve.
Katie
Okay.
Unnamed Guest
And once they got to that elbow bone.
Katie
Oh, really?
Unnamed Guest
Things were not so funny anymore.
Katie
He did one arm like most people do.
Unnamed Guest
Yeah. His whole left arm is done in the traditional Hawaiian tribal because my parents spend a lot of time over there.
Katie
Oh, cool.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Katie
Yeah. I like the sleeve thing and that. Like, but what would be the rough cost on that to get sleeved in a whole arm?
Unnamed Guest
Oh, my God. It depends on what you get, but, I mean, easily five grand.
Katie
Easily $5,000.
Unnamed Guest
Yeah. Depending on what you have done. Yeah, yeah. Because I have a piece on my shoulder that goes from just above my elbow up to the right to the top of my shoulder, and that was about, I think, 850.
Katie
I feel like I've got the weird on the backside of tattoos age thing going to where it just wouldn't matter. I mean, there's nothing edgy at all. I could get whatever kind of tattoos. It's gonna have no effect on my career at this point or anything or my dating, because I'm old. I mean, so it's just like. It'd be like, what's the point?
Jack Armstrong
Why don't you ask Kanye west for a suggestion or. Yeah, for tattoos.
Katie
I'm well past the age of being able to make a statement that anybody.
Jack Armstrong
Would care about, so.
Katie
Just like me. What would I be doing if you.
Unnamed Guest
Showed up with a couple neck tattoos? I think people would notice.
Katie
Face tat. Face tat would get attention. Yeah.
Unnamed Guest
I kind of want one of you guys to get one. Just so you know what it's like.
Katie
With my head. I could do some pretty interesting things over my. With no hair and a round head, Charlie Brown head, I can. Like the sphere in Vegas, you know, like an eyeball or something. Like that big eyeball. That's horrible.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Katie
People consider that on the back of my head. My shaved head.
Jack Armstrong
Just a big pair of eyes. How about a pair of eyes? Oh, your face.
Katie
Yes.
Jack Armstrong
And hair and everything. Yes. Yes.
Katie
We got a plan.
Jack Armstrong
Like you're Voldemort. Spoiler alert. In the first Harry Potter movie. Very dramatic reveal.
Unnamed Guest
Do you remember the little person tattoo On Fantasy Island? We'll get a tattoo of him. Tattoo.
Katie
And it's meta.
Unnamed Guest
Well, I guess that's it.
Joe Getty
This podcast is sponsored by Talkspace. May is mental health awareness month, and Talkspace, the leading virtual therapy provider, is telling everyone let's face it in therapy by talking or texting with a supportive licensed therapist at Talkspace, you can face whatever is holding you back, whether it's mental health symptoms, relationship drama, past trauma, bad habits, or another challenge that you need support to work through. It's easy to sign up. Just go to talkspace.com and you'll be paired with a provider, typically within 48 hours. And because you'll meet your therapist online, you don't have to take time off work or arrange childcare. You'll meet on your schedule. Plus, Talkspace is in network with most major insurers, and most insured members have a $0 copay. Make your mental health a priority and start today. If you're not covered by insurance, get $80 off your first month with Talkspace when you go to talkspace.com and enter promo code space80. That's S P A C 80. To match with a licensed therapist today, go to talkspace.com and Enter promo code space80.
Jack Armstrong
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Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "Just Got a Brand New Tattoo!"
Episode Information:
In the episode titled "Just Got a Brand New Tattoo!", hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into the multifaceted world of tattoos. The conversation revolves around personal experiences, the symbolism behind tattoos, societal perceptions, and the intricacies involved in getting inked. The discussion is enriched with anecdotes, humor, and thoughtful insights into the art of tattooing.
The episode kicks off with Jack Armstrong proudly announcing his latest tattoo:
[01:04] Jack Armstrong: "Just got a brand new tattoo. It's huge. It says no tattoos. It's one more thing."
This playful paradox sets the tone for the ensuing discussion, as the hosts and guests explore the deeper meanings and implications of tattoos.
The conversation seamlessly transitions to the allure of bad tattoos and the online communities that celebrate them. The hosts reference popular websites where individuals showcase their regrettable ink choices.
[01:28] Unnamed Guest: "That tattoo that went viral, it says no regerts."
Jack Armstrong adds his own perspective on these platforms:
[01:33] Jack Armstrong: "That is one of my guilty pleasures. It's been a while since I've done it, but going to one of those bad tattoos websites where it's either no regerts or various misspellings or somebody gets, like, their baby's face tattooed on them, but it looks like a demon because the artist is just not that good."
The discussion highlights the humor and fascination people have with aesthetically unpleasing tattoos, emphasizing the importance of choosing a skilled tattoo artist.
Jack Armstrong shares his experience using AI to decide on his tattoo, stressing the importance of personal resonance and symbolism.
[02:27] Jack Armstrong: "So I was expressing my love for AI specifically chat GPT just because that's the one I've tried and I want to try Grok and some other ones, but I thought, all right, why not? I just asked what kind of tattoo should I get? And it told me to find the right tattoo. Consider what resonates with you, your personal style and any symbolic meaning you'd like to convey. Think about the tattoos, placement, your lifestyle and your long term comfort with the design."
Katie Getty echoes the sentiment, discussing the dilemma of visibility and personal expression:
[02:53] Katie Getty: "I often thought, I mean, what am I, what am I expressing if I'm not expressing it to anybody but like two people on earth?"
The hosts delve into the strategic considerations behind tattoo placement, balancing personal significance with public visibility. They explore areas that are easily covered and those that are more prominent, discussing the implications of each choice.
[03:17] Jack Armstrong: "I've had the same thought roughly. Although I think, you know, if I'm going to get one, and I've considered it for years, it would probably be the classic, you know, shoulder location."
Katie adds her perspective on selective visibility:
[03:32] Katie Getty: "I often thought, I mean, what am I, what am I expressing if I'm not expressing it to anybody but like two people on earth?"
The conversation shifts to the historical context of tattoos, particularly their evolution from being taboo to mainstream. Katie reflects on past societal norms and her personal admiration for her uncle's tattoo:
[04:23] Katie Getty: "But my uncle had a tattoo when I was a kid and I always thought it was so cool. He was a really buff dude and he was a marine and fought in Vietnam and he had a bulldog on his arm. And I always just thought that was so badass."
Joe Getty contributes by recalling societal reactions to tattoos in earlier decades:
[04:35] Joe Getty: "Yeah."
Katie elaborates on the shock value tattoos once held, especially for women:
[04:55] Katie Getty: "Like, I worked at a bar for years. If a girl, like a big nightclub, country club, like 300 people on a Saturday night, if a woman had walked in with tattoos, everybody would have been talking in the entire bar. It would have been so shocking and I know."
An unnamed guest shares a personal story about their family's tattoo experiences, highlighting both sentimental value and regrettable outcomes:
[11:06] Unnamed Guest: "We were in Hawaii, I was in high school, and we just so happened to run into Nikki six's nanny... My mom got her dolphin that's jumping over a shamrock... I decided on two hearts next to each other. One filled in like the American flag, the other filled in like the Irish flag. Unfortunately, it wasn't a horrible idea. Except for the tattoo artist did the American flag vertically, so it looks like Puerto Rico."
This narrative underscores the importance of precision and intention in tattoo design, as well as the lasting impact of tattoo choices.
The hosts discuss the physical and financial aspects of getting tattoos, providing listeners with realistic expectations.
[07:32] Unnamed Guest: "Yeah, I've had plenty of very. And I will tell you. The ribs."
Katie inquires about the pain associated with specific tattoo placements:
[07:54] Katie Getty: "How would you describe the pain?"
The conversation addresses the variability of pain based on location, size, and personal tolerance, as well as the substantial financial investment tattoos can require:
[13:32] Jack Armstrong: "And once they got to that elbow bone. Things were not so funny anymore."
[13:39] Unnamed Guest: "Oh, my God. It depends on what you get, but, I mean, easily five grand."
The discussion highlights how societal attitudes towards tattoos have softened over the years, making them more accessible and less stigmatized.
[05:19] Katie Getty: "That's one of the interesting things about, about tattoos is it certainly lost its edginess."
Katie observes that tattoos no longer necessarily signify a rebellious or edgy persona:
[05:43] Unnamed Guest: "Now am I right now it's defined by the type of tattoo, you know, if you're the vanilla and very dainty and whatnot, they have the very dainty style tattoo."
The hosts brainstorm creative and humorous tattoo ideas, reflecting on personal style and individuality.
[14:36] Unnamed Guest: "I kind of want one of you guys to get one. Just so you know what it's like."
[14:55] Jack Armstrong: "Wow."
Katie entertains whimsical concepts for tattoos:
[14:57] Katie Getty: "People consider that on the back of my head. My shaved head."
The lighthearted exchange showcases the playful side of tattoo planning and design.
The episode wraps up with reflections on the personal significance of tattoos and the unique stories they tell. The hosts emphasize that tattoos are deeply personal choices that go beyond mere aesthetics, representing individual journeys, memories, and identities.
Jack Armstrong [01:04]: "Just got a brand new tattoo. It's huge. It says no tattoos. It's one more thing."
Unnamed Guest [01:28]: "That tattoo that went viral, it says no regerts."
Jack Armstrong [02:27]: "Think about the tattoos, placement, your lifestyle and your long term comfort with the design."
Katie Getty [05:43]: "You could be as vanilla, mainstream, normal... and be a tattoo person."
Unnamed Guest [12:22]: "I came about 3 inches off the table, and I looked at my dad, and he went, nope, gotta finish."
Jack Armstrong [13:39]: "Easily five grand."
"Just Got a Brand New Tattoo!" offers an engaging exploration of tattoo culture, blending humor with heartfelt anecdotes. Armstrong and Getty provide a comprehensive look at the considerations involved in getting a tattoo, from artistic design to personal significance, making it a valuable listen for both tattoo enthusiasts and the curious alike.