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Joe Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty.
Jack Armstrong
And now he's Armstrong and Getty. So we have eight. Well, first, this Trump has just truthed out that the Giants should hire Harbaugh to be the coach. I love when the President of the United States gets involved in these sorts of things. There you go. On his official platform, same, same place he'll say, I'm gonna, you know, abduct the leaders of Iran. He'll say, and Harbaugh should be the Giants coach. It's just kind of funny.
Joe Getty
It's one word for it.
Jack Armstrong
There have been eight oral arguments before the Supreme Court this session so far. And so far, KJP has spoken more words than all the dudes combined. Yeah.
Joe Getty
The newest, youngest justice.
Jack Armstrong
Isn't that something?
Joe Getty
More than all the dudes combined. And at last count, there were five of them.
Jack Armstrong
We'll break that down a little bit more, but we're gonna feature Josh Hawley here. He's a senator from Missouri. And one thing I know about him is Sarah Isger of the Dispatch, who I really, really like. She's a super smart lawyer, went to Harvard. She says Josh Hawley is the smartest, most talented lawyer in all of government, likely. And it's interesting that he took that talent and decided, you know what, it's a trumpet time and that's the direction the wind's blowing. And that's what I'm gonna do.
Joe Getty
Yeah, Populism in general. Yeah. He's not gonna challenge people. He's gonna, you know, he's going to flow with the river and see what he can get done. Having done that, it's. Maybe it's the smart thing to do. I don't know. But he's a very, very smart guy. Anyway, so there was a hearing in the Senate on the abortion pills and availability. Abortion pills and stuff like that. And Hawley saw an opportunity, and he asked the esteemed doctor Something or other Verma the following question.
Senator Josh Hawley
Why don't we just start there? Dr. Verma, I wasn't sure I understood your answer to Senator Moody a moment ago. Do you think that men can get pregnant?
Dr. Verma
I hesitated there because I wasn't sure where the conversation was going or what the goal was. I mean, I do take care of patients with different identities. I take care of many women. I take care of people with different identities. And so that's where I paused, I think. Yeah, I wasn't sure where you were going with that.
Senator Josh Hawley
Well, the goal is just the truth. So can men get pregnant?
Dr. Verma
Again, the reason I paused there is I'm not really sure what the goal of the question.
Senator Josh Hawley
The goal is just to establish a biological reality. You just said a moment ago that science and evidence should control, not politics. So let's just test that proposition. Can men get pregnant?
Dr. Verma
I take care of people with many identities, but can we get pregnant?
Jack Armstrong
We'll jump back in. I was leaning toward. I mean, he knows exactly what he's doing regardless, but. But he's, like, putting her in this uncomfortable position on purpose. But the fact that he just stated, because we didn't hear the earlier part, that she said, it's very important that we stick with science and not get into politics. Okay, you opened that door. Oh, I'm saying we have to stick with science and no politics involved.
Joe Getty
Okay, well, then answer this question.
Jack Armstrong
Here we go.
Dr. Verma
There are many women that can get pregnant. I do take care of people that don't identify as women.
Senator Josh Hawley
Can men get pregnant?
Dr. Verma
Again, as I'm saying, let me just.
Senator Josh Hawley
Remind you, you testified to a moment ago, science and evidence should control, not politics. So should. Can men get pregnant? You're a doctor.
Dr. Verma
Science and evidence should guide medicine.
Senator Josh Hawley
Do science and evidence tell us that men can get pregnant? Biological men, can they get pregnant?
Dr. Verma
I also think yes. No questions like this are a political tool.
Senator Josh Hawley
No. Yes. No questions are about the truth. Doctor, let's not make a mockery of this proceeding. This is about science and evidence. And I'm asking you. The United States Supreme Court just heard arguments yesterday at great length on this question. This is not a hypothetical question. This is not theoretical. It affects real people in their real lives. And you're here as an expert, called by the other side as an expert, and you've been telling us that you follow.
Joe Getty
Right?
Senator Josh Hawley
You're a doctor and you follow the science and the evidence. So I just want to know, based on the science, can men get pregnant? That's a yes or no question. It really is. I think.
Dr. Verma
I think you're trying to reduce the complexity of a lot.
Senator Josh Hawley
I'm not. I'm trying to get. It's not complex. I'm trying to get to an answer. And I'm trying to test, frankly, your veracity as a medical professional and as a scientist. Can men get pregnant?
Dr. Verma
I think you're also conflating male.
Senator Josh Hawley
No, I'm not conflating male and female. They're two different things. There's biological men and there's biological women. And I want to know, can men get pregnant?
Dr. Verma
What you were talking about is biological.
Senator Josh Hawley
You're not going to answer my question.
Dr. Verma
Biological males.
Senator Josh Hawley
This isn't hard, Doctor. Can men get pregnant?
Jack Armstrong
Oh, my God.
Senator Josh Hawley
Yes or no.
Jack Armstrong
Can you stop it, Michael?
Joe Getty
I would actually let her answer, Josh, because then she will have to spell out the proposition which is at the core of this. It was really at the core of the Supreme Court hearing yesterday. Are so called trans girls actually girls? And the answer clearly is, of course they're not.
Jack Armstrong
You're not in Congress trying to raise money. And if you are, your mindset has got to be. I need a whole bunch of different short clips of me asking the S no question and her evading it because news is only going to use a short clip. They're not going to play the whole thing. But in general, I agree. Let her answer. Let her explain how men can get pregnant. That's going to do her more harm than you interrupting her, I think.
Joe Getty
Yes. See, I disagree with you on your very premise that he's solid. He's got some really good cuts of her not answering his very obvious question as a scientist, as a doctor. Now get her to spell out her crazy ass police crazy ass.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, by the way, Hansen and Michael, we absolutely need the clip. We will use it for the rest of our careers. You're making a mockery of these proceedings.
Joe Getty
We use that as a drop when.
Jack Armstrong
We start messing around in the middle of something or whatever.
Joe Getty
Wait a minute. Mockery is the point of these.
Jack Armstrong
You're thinking of mockery. That's why I showed up today.
Joe Getty
We need that clip. It's what I do for a living. Roll on.
Dr. Verma
I would be more than happy to have a conversation with you. That is not coming from a place of trying to be polarized and push.
Senator Josh Hawley
I'm not trying to be polarizing. I'm trying to ask. I think it is extraordinary that we are here in hearing about science and about women. And for the record, it's Women who get pregnant, not men.
Joe Getty
So again, that's at the core of the entire question. The absurd notion that if you declare you're a woman, you become a woman. That's idiotic.
Jack Armstrong
I think. I definitely think it would have benefited him. Let her spell out, as a doctor, how men can get pregnant would have done her more damage to 90% of America.
Joe Getty
And speaking of the other 10% of America, dig this headline from the liberal Mother Jones, which used to be magazine. What's a magazine, Grandpa? It's a website they printed for some reason, Mother Jones said at the Senate committee, blah, blah, blah. Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri spent the whole of his allotted time reiterating disinformation about transgender people.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, you've got to be kidding.
Joe Getty
I never kid.
Jack Armstrong
You have got to be kidding. Reiterating disinformation. The disinformation being that only women can get pregnant.
Joe Getty
Correct. Wow. Oh, my God.
Jack Armstrong
You gotta be kidding me.
Joe Getty
You know, I came across an absolutely brilliant piece of writing about how difficult it is going to be to find space in the middle with the current left, the progressive left, because they, even when they compromise, they don't disavow their core beliefs, which include, for instance, yes, men can get pregnant if you declare you're a man. You are a man, therefore you have a uterus and a vagina and ovaries. And your egg, which you have produced has been fertilized by sperm. It is now growing inside you. In spite of all that, you are a man because you've declared you're a man, therefore, men can get pregnant. That is a worldview. So, Looney Tunes, how do you compromise with that? So, all right, you can have a mustache, but you can't call yourself a man. Is that the compromise?
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. You're making a mockery of these proceedings.
Joe Getty
I hope so.
Jack Armstrong
So on the Supreme Court, we got five dudes and four chicks. All right, though. And they've added up the words they've spoken so far. After eight cases of oral arguments this season, the. The chattiest dude, John Roberts, still talks less than the quietest chick. Isn't that amazing?
Joe Getty
Well, and he's the damn Chief Justice.
Jack Armstrong
Elena. Elena Kagan, who talks the least among the four female justices, still has talked more than John Roberts, the chattiest male. By word count, it's four women, most, the least, and then all the dudes. I mean, that's too much of a stereotype to be true. It seems like, in terms of, like, if you go out to dinner and you Got, you know, four couples who's going to do the most talking, but, yeah, it's the way it goes.
Joe Getty
Well, yeah, but for one gal to so dominate the conversation. You know what's interesting about that, because I listen to a lot of oral arguments, is Elena Kagan is very concise. She's very bright and very concise. And part of KGJB's problem is she rambles. She asks these ramblings. Not very thought out, silly questions.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, so I didn't get to that. So Ketanji Brown Jackson speaks the most. She's the newest justice. And I don't know about you. You show up to the workplace, you're the new person in the room.
Joe Getty
Probably two guys dominating the meeting. I think that's all you have to say.
Jack Armstrong
Probably shouldn't be the person that talks the most. Regardless, she talked more in terms of word count, over 11,000 words more than all of the male justices added together. There's no way in no universe should that be okay. If you're trying to just have a discussion where you have one person talk, you know, one woman talk more than all the dudes. I mean, it just doesn't make any.
Joe Getty
Sense given the time constraints of the oral arguments. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
But, yeah, there you go. Clarence Thomas always comes in with the fewest words. He, so far, in eight rounds of oral arguments, has said 96 words. And some of them were, hey, could somebody adjust the thermostat? That's eight words right there.
Joe Getty
Right, right. I've got a great featurette, Animals in the News, coming up. I think you'll enjoy. It's a little lighter fare.
Jack Armstrong
Fantastic.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Senator Josh Hawley
Let's not make a mockery of this proceeding.
Joe Getty
There you go. Hey, I got a question for you. Can male dogs get pregnant? How about male chimps? How about male dolphins? How about male elephants?
Jack Armstrong
I would actually like to know what their answer would be for that.
Joe Getty
I'm going to name every single mammal on Earth. This could take weeks, so get comfortable.
Jack Armstrong
What would be their answer for that?
Joe Getty
Well, human beings, gender identification is part of the higher order of. I don't know, they'd come up with some.
Jack Armstrong
Call it a cultural construct. Among rhinoceroses, can you.
Joe Getty
Oh, no, no. Well, they're. They're. Their reasoning has no reasoning in it. It's a religious doctrine that you must accept, like a cultist does. And that's why dissent, for instance, in the classroom is strict verboten in progressive universities. Because if you start asking the difficult questions, it all unravels. And so that's why they don't allow it.
Jack Armstrong
Breaking news. Federal prosecutors charged 20 people in connection with rigging college basketball games. More of the details on that and a bunch of other stuff on the way.
Joe Getty
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Senator Josh Hawley
Hey.
Jack Armstrong
Hey, goat. Where do you live, little goat guy? Hey, look at this. Look how cool this car is. Get in the car.
Joe Getty
Come here. Go.
Jack Armstrong
Hey. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Come here, come here. Hey, hey. Come here. No, you're not gonna ram me. We're not doing that. No.
Senator Josh Hawley
Bad.
Jack Armstrong
Go bad. Go. Go in there.
Dr. Verma
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Little Elm, Texas police officer successfully getting a goat into his squad car to get it off the road.
Jack Armstrong
Charming.
Joe Getty
Welcome to Armstrong and Gettys. Animals in the news.
Jack Armstrong
I can tell you as a guy with a lot of goat experience, if you open your door near a goat, the hard part is keeping the goat out of your car, not getting him into your car.
Joe Getty
Oh, interesting.
Jack Armstrong
They walked into your knowledge.
Joe Getty
Yes, some terrific goat knowledge. Here's a headline for you. Time to change the locks. Tennessee candy store ransacked by a bear for the fourth time. The bear just smashes in the front door and goes in and eats some of the sweet, sweet candy. Because they like sugar.
Jack Armstrong
This candy was too sweet.
Joe Getty
It's time to either get a shotgun or a steel door or something. That's a bit of a conundrum. Perhaps my favorite story. There is now a goat loose in St. Louis to join the monkeys that we reported on being loose in St. Louis. Good Lord.
Jack Armstrong
St. Louis. Put a dome over it.
Joe Getty
I. I've been to St. Louis. A single goat loose on the streets of St. Louis would have very little effect on day to day life, I think. But my favorite part of the story is that the authorities are having more difficulty catching the goat and finding it because people keep posting AI generated images online of the goat at city Hal, the goat at home plate of the Cardinals stadium.
Jack Armstrong
Hilarious.
Joe Getty
The goat captaining a ship down the river, that sort of thing.
Jack Armstrong
That's funny.
Joe Getty
I know. That's just absolutely fantastic. And then this. This is much less funny, but equally interesting. How big a topic are School shootings over the last quite a few years. Huge. Enormous. Huge. Interestingly, school shootings took 40 lives in 2022, which is a nightmare. 21 in 2023, 18 in 2024, and seven in 2025.
Jack Armstrong
Wow, that's interesting.
Joe Getty
A rather steep decline. Pit bulls have killed more people each year than school shootings have since 2022. And the dog bite fatality numbers are increasing.
Jack Armstrong
That is one of those great freakonomic stories. That is really interesting.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. And it's not a humongous number, but it is growing rather notably. It's, I think, 65 people a year killed the last couple of years.
Jack Armstrong
But just from, you know, what you should be afraid of or worried about with your family. Oh, yeah, that's interesting.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah, I think it is. I should have ended with the goat story.
Jack Armstrong
You know, we.
Joe Getty
We never got to show business.
Jack Armstrong
We never got to the. The gun murders or murders in general across the country were down a lot. I mean, like, the most ever last year. And nobody's exactly sure why.
Joe Getty
Trump law and order. Oh, last year. Yeah. I don't know. The murder rate is actually a really interesting and mystifying topic.
Jack Armstrong
No kidding.
Joe Getty
A lot of it has to do with a handful of localities, blue cities, where, generally speaking, young black men settle small disputes with deadly violence. And that tends to rise and fall with the dynamics of gang, you know, activity within those cities. And you can see really big changes. Policing is huge. Obviously, it has an effect. And who's in charge of your Justice Department? And has an effect, too. But a lot of it's just the politics of gangs.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And unless you live in certain neighborhoods, the likelihood of you being shot doesn't change that much.
Joe Getty
And by the way, let me save you the trouble of writing your email about how wonderful and affectionate and great your pit bull is. I know. I absolutely know that. The problem with pit bulls is, as I've said before, it's like the difference between having a gun that's a.22 and one that's a.45. If the one goes off that might hurt somebody, the other one goes off, it'll probably kill somebody. That's the problem.
Jack Armstrong
Why did a whole bunch of phones stop working yesterday?
Joe Getty
Why? Armstrong and Getty? The President flipping the middle finger at someone who could be heard calling him a pedophile protector over the Epstein files. Well, two separate GoFundMe pages verified by the site say the worker has been suspended without pay. And so far, the pages have raised more than $800,000 for him.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, gun. GoFundMe comes to the rescue once again, sometimes in weird, weird ways. So the guy that was taunting Trump with you protect pedophiles. He got suspended from his job there at the Ford Motor plant. What do we think of that?
Joe Getty
You're yelling at and taunting an official visitor to the plant. Yeah. You get suspended.
Jack Armstrong
I don't want you to do that. If I run the plant, don't heckle our guests. All right?
Joe Getty
Might be the head of Toyota and some sort of technology sharing. Might be a politician, might be a scientist, might be anybody. No, you don't get to yell at our guests.
Jack Armstrong
Anyway, the guy's got. He'll probably have a million dollars by the, you know, middle of the day today, so. Best thing that ever happened to him.
Joe Getty
You know, as we look back on the era of madness, have we come up with a good term for the post George Floyd period of insanity? Insanity. We got the woke up. The woke apocalypse is pretty good. You remember for a cup of coffee, people were saying, bring your whole self to work.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, don't.
Joe Getty
What a terrible effing idea. Stop it.
Jack Armstrong
Bring. Bring the part of yourself to work that does the job one and gets along with everybody too.
Joe Getty
Right. And anything that doesn't serve those purposes, leave the hell home or in the.
Jack Armstrong
Car or wherever you need to leave it.
Senator Josh Hawley
But.
Joe Getty
Or go on the Internet and complain.
Jack Armstrong
So millions of Verizon phones went down yesterday, and there's not much more to say about this story other than as often happens with these phone outages, power outages, grids going down. They don't really have an explanation.
Joe Getty
So.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, I hope it was a software this or that or something. What? I hope it's not.
Joe Getty
Of course.
Jack Armstrong
And I am amazed that I never hear anybody mention this on real newscasts or bring up the question, was it the freaking Chinese or the Russians, China testing out whether or not they can shut down our phones if they want to, or the power grid in San Francisco like happened the Saturday before Christmas. I don't think that's paranoid conspiracy talk either. I don't think I'm Candace Owens for bringing that up. You know, they're trying as hard as they can in China to, To come.
Joe Getty
Up with that technology. Well, of course, and they probably have it. I mean, we shut out all the power to Venezuela.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
All the lights went out when we needed to snatch Maduro. And, and, and the threat was made to do something like that to Tehran. I could see. I could certainly conceive of China saying, hey, before you get too happy doing that sort of thing. Click. Off goes your cell phone service. Two hours later. All right, it's on again. I think I made my point. Right? Or however long was off.
Jack Armstrong
I also understand why they would keep this secret if that's what's going on. I don't need to know that China was involved or Russia or you know exactly what. Or you're dealing with that behind the scenes. But I hope people are. Are not just taking all these explanations at face value. That's what I hope. So is another shooting in Minneapolis last night. Let me read the version from the Associated Press. A federal office officer shot a man in the leg in Minneapolis after being attacked with a shovel and a broom handle, further heightening the sense of fear and anger radiating across the city a week after an immigration agent fatally shot a woman in the head. I'm fine with that so far. I guess what might have been nice to throw in a sentence about she attempted to flee or ram him or whatever. Because we do have the CBS News reporting yesterday. Breaking news. The ICE agent who fatally shot Renee Good last week suffered internal bleeding to the torso following the incident. According to two US Officials briefed on this medical condition. CBS News reported that as fact. They believe the officials apparently, and I tend to, but. So the. The dispute of whether or not he got hit with the car. You can be a hundred percent against these ICE operations and all these different sort of stuff, but to deny that her car hit the guy.
Joe Getty
Why?
Jack Armstrong
Why are you doing that?
Joe Getty
Well, people exclude facts that don't fit their narrative all the time. They just ignore them in a way that troubles me. Not exactly sure why, though.
Jack Armstrong
I. I feel like if I was on the other side of this issue, I could say, yeah, she shouldn't, you know, hit the gas and hit that guy and shouldn't have been there blocking him, but ICE has gone way too far and we shouldn't do this in America. It all fits together.
Joe Getty
Or he didn't need to shoot her or whatever.
Jack Armstrong
Is that confusing?
Joe Getty
I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know why that is.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I don't know. I think people see themselves as attorneys in a great trial in America. And I'm not gonna say anything to help the defense. Forget it.
Jack Armstrong
But in terms of this stuff being hot and getting hotter. Well, like, for instance, the New York Times is not helping their headline last night over what happened. Federal agent shoots immigrant in Minneapolis. Homeland Security says, obviously you would jump to the conclusion after last week that this is another shouldn't have happened shooting by a. By an ICE officer. You Don't. Why wouldn't you put in the headline ICE officer attacked, you know, shoots immigrants? Something along those lines. But why wouldn't you have that in the headline?
Joe Getty
How about shoots assailant?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that's fine.
Joe Getty
Yeah. The point of the shooting was not immigration status. It was the fact that they were assaulting an officer.
Jack Armstrong
I'm building up to a point here that I want to discuss that Mark Halpern makes in his newsletter today. That's interesting. Back to the Associated Press reporting on last night. I'm not following this closely. Maybe I should be, man. I'm looking at some footage right now. It's pretty crazy. There's read this description. Smoke filled the street Wednesday night near the site of the latest shooting as federal officers wearing gas masks and helmets fired tear gas into a crowd while protesters threw rocks and shot fireworks. That's pretty hot scene right there. And Minneapolis Police Chief Brian o' Hara said during a news conference that the gathering was an unlawful assembly and people need to leave. So the local police called it an unlawful assembly and said people gotta go. I mean, it's getting complicated and dangerous. Obviously it's a powder keg. It really is. I mean, a really bad scene could happen.
Joe Getty
So.
Jack Armstrong
And then Tim Walls gave a speech yet yesterday saying Minnesota's need to. Minnesotans need to keep filming ICE agents. Trump responded, just resign with all the back and forth and all that sort of stuff. This is Mark Halpern's analysis. See if you agree with it or not. What is going to settle this down is not walls or fry, it's public opinion. Biden lost in part because of immigration. And now the Republicans are inexplicably, inexplicably making the same mistake. Minnesota is breaking through the national conversation. Do you think the overall takeaway from this for the country is at this point this ICE enforcement thing has gone way too far?
Joe Getty
Yeah, judging by the polls I've seen. Yeah, that, that does seem to be the, the thinking now before you. Oh my God, A and G, you've betrayed us, blah, blah, blah. That includes the fact that virtually all media coverage is utterly one sided and unfair. So there remains an opportunity to change people's perceptions, but it's gonna be tough in the way it always is for conservatives. Plus, as I've said earlier, Trump and company tend to only want to ratchet things up. And I think they're already plenty ratcheted. And there's no question that folks on the center right even are saying, you know, this wrestling people in Target to the ground and now they're busting people. Just going to work at the big meta plant they're building in Louisiana. That's, that's kind of not what we voted for. We get it in principle. And in principle you can defend it. I mean, if they're illegals, they're illegals. But I think most people had more sympathy for we're gonna round up the criminals. And it's become a little clouded who's getting rounded up exactly and why. And now a lady is dead. She seems like a nice lady. Everybody says she's a nice lady. And to the extent that people really dig into these stories, it's not going great narrative wise.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. One more story. I want to bring you the attempt to give drunks free booze in San Francisco and how it has worked out as a program. But first we should tell you about price picks.
Joe Getty
Where do you sign up for that? For a friend.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. It's probably not the top shelf stuff you're used to, but that's a good point. I'm super excited about the NFL action this weekend. I can't wait for the playoff games. And you should download the prize packs app and get involved in any of the sports that are going on right now. You got the basketball mid season, obviously the football. Is there anything Olympics wise? Can you do that or no?
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
So San Francisco has cleaned up its act a lot since the new mayor took over. But five years ago they came up with this program, California NGO non governmental organization that you should be familiar with those letters from what went on in Minnesota, for instance, with $9 billion being stolen from lots of those kind of organizations. It's called Community Forward. They're running San Francisco's managed alcohol program at a managed alcohol program there for quite a portion of my life and I didn't manage it very well. The ngo, this NGO is supposed to provide free alcohol shots for homeless alcoholics. So apparently you're drunk, you're on the street, you can say, I just am really needing it today. And they give you a shot of alcohol.
Joe Getty
Do you have the Glenn Moran G14 here? Just one ice cube, please.
Jack Armstrong
One ice cube. The program for five years was funded to the tune of $16 million.
Joe Getty
Wow, that's a bar tab.
Jack Armstrong
It ended up being. Well, they got $16 million per year for five years, so a total of $80 million. I'm still not at the, at the punchline yet though.
Joe Getty
Whoa. I may need a drink to take this story in.
Jack Armstrong
Total cost $80 million over five years. They served 55 clients.
Joe Getty
Oh my.
Jack Armstrong
55.
Joe Getty
You know, I have a great and incredible story about handing out money money to your cronies in San Francisco in. Under the, you know, in the guise of. This is a charitable program. Yeah, yeah, it is. But that's, that's the winner. That, that may be the alternative winner.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
$80 million for 55 drunks?
Jack Armstrong
Probably not. I mean we, we've, we around the country, but certainly California have thrown so many giant chunks of money at homelessness and not really done anything. But this one's a particularly jazzy one because the program's so stupid to start with. Giving free shots to just drunks on the street. I mean, God. And why would it cost $16 million a year to do that? I mean, why, what's, what manner are you using to get booze and distribute it? That would cost $16 million a year. But the fact that only 55 people either knew about it or took advantage of it or whatever is astounding.
Joe Getty
You know, there are some sincere do gooders in the world, but I would argue the one thing you got wrong in your screed was the idea that they ever intended to do anything about the so called homeless program.
Jack Armstrong
You're right.
Joe Getty
That was never the intent. The intent was to give out the money. The excuse was this will help the checks. Mad libs homeless situation. Handing this money to my cronies.
Jack Armstrong
This has been our theme for many, many years. But we are such a rich country and so comfortable. Even the supposed put upon middle class and lower classes just don't care how government money is spent. Of course part of that is half the country doesn't pay federal taxes. So you know, that has a lot to do with not paying attention to where money goes. But it.
Joe Getty
$16 million for those 55.
Dr. Verma
Just to do the math, that's a.
Joe Getty
$291,000 bar tab annually per person.
Jack Armstrong
Well, you should have some pretty high top shelf stuff there. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Does that include the appetizers and stuff? Because I'd like a little something in my tummy if I'm going to be drinking a quarter million dollars worth of booze.
Jack Armstrong
That should be some Louis XII champagne served to you by Louis xii with.
Joe Getty
Marie Antoinette and a negligee or something. You know, I've got another story of San Francisco graft, but we, we've run out of time.
Jack Armstrong
And you are right.
Joe Getty
Amazing.
Jack Armstrong
The thing to remember is they don't intend to do anything good with it in the first place. It's just a scam. That's what we need to remember, all of us.
Dr. Verma
Thanks for taking my money.
Jack Armstrong
Well said, young lady. More on the way.
Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty get this. The USDA is now using Trump in their new campaign to encourage people to drink whole milk.
Jack Armstrong
This is real.
Joe Getty
Trump also filmed a commercial.
Jack Armstrong
Check this out.
Joe Getty
Do you drink skim milk? No, no, no, no, no. 2% milk?
Jack Armstrong
No, no, no, no, no.
Joe Getty
Almond oat or coconut milk? Absolutely not.
Jack Armstrong
What are you talking about?
Joe Getty
How about delicious, nutritious whole milk?
Jack Armstrong
Oh yes, yes, yes.
Joe Getty
Whole milk makes you big and strong.
Jack Armstrong
So you can lift weights like this or this.
Joe Getty
Or this. So what's your favorite drink? Coca Cola. He was supposed to say whole milk.
Jack Armstrong
The new RFK Jr. FDA pushing whole milk on us for better or worse. What if.
Joe Getty
Okay, whatevs. Make your own decision. Check your local listings. So we were talking about the incredible levels of graft in Cal, Unicornia and San Francisco having to do with the so called homeless and drunks and whatever story. Last segment was just stunning. If you didn't hear it, grab the podcast Armstrong and Gettyond. You ought to subscribe anyway. But. So for some reason the new mayor who's sane, Daniel Lurie, signed this legislation to further the work of building a framework for reparations for black citizens. Blah, blah blah. It's. It's not actually funded. It's just kicking the can down the road again. But they point out in the free press that not long ago the old Mayor London breed was engaged in just blatant corruption through this very kind of identity based grant program. As I reported at the time, this reporter race. Excuse me, the Braden administration funneled nearly $100 million to a handful of activist staff departments that functioned largely as make work and vote buy schemes. She called it the city's DEI industrial complex. These city run fiefdoms included A bunch of different. The city's Human Rights Commission, Department on the Status Women, Office of Transgender Initiatives, Office of Racial Equity. Under Breed, these departments ran programs offering hundreds of thousands of dollars in monthly guaranteed income, blah, blah, blah, for people identified as this, that, or the other. But it almost was entirely no show jobs and fake jobs of people who just showed up at the office and drank coffee and went home or stayed for an hour or whatever. Um, and that's the point. Spreading the money around. It's. It's machine politics. And. And my God, reject all tax increases. Reflexively, then, this. 20 men have been charged in a point shaving scheme involving more than 39 college basketball players on more than 17 NCAA Division 1 teams, leading to more than 29 games being fixed, according to a federal indictment unsealed in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.
Jack Armstrong
Division 1 NCAA basketball games that were fixed over the last several seasons. Yeah, this is a problem. We're officially at the. Something's gotta be done, aren't we? Now that it's the NBA, Major League Baseball, college basketball, which is a huge deal.
Joe Getty
Fifteen of the defendants played last season or the season before. Some have played this season. Two of the players named in the indictment said Quavius Hunter and Di Quavian Short, oddly similarly named, were sanctioned in November by the NCAA for fixing New Orleans games, some of them being paid.
Jack Armstrong
As much as $30,000 to, you know, swing a game one way or the.
Joe Getty
Other or just, again, shave points.
Jack Armstrong
Right, right.
Joe Getty
You don't have to swing the game. You just have to get within the. The over, under or whatever, 30 grand or the spread. This is a problem.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know what they're gonna do about it. But what I'm gonna enjoy today, probably happening right now, is a whole bunch of sleuths are going to go back through various games that these named players were in, and we're gonna get videos soon of ridiculous shots where, you know, their free throw goes halfway to the basket or something like that. And it's obviously that obvious that the danked it.
Joe Getty
Or they're up 12 and they throw the ball away twice in the last minute and, oh, now they're only up 6. That's funny, but they still won the game, Jim. The Fighting Pelicans look great tonight.
Jack Armstrong
Dang it. I don't know what we're gonna do about this. We got a lot on the way. If you missed a segment, the podcast, Armstrong and Getty on Demand.
Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty.
Jack Armstrong
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
Date: January 15, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand ranges widely from national debates on gender and biology, lively critiques of government spending, media bias, and public policy, to lighter fare with animal stories. The main segment features in-depth commentary on a viral Senate exchange regarding the question of whether men can get pregnant. The hosts use this as a springboard to lampoon modern American political discourse, explore issues of media framing, and discuss government waste with their trademark skepticism and wry humor.
Senator Josh Hawley's Senate Exchange (02:42–07:16)
Senator Hawley repeatedly presses Dr. Verma, a witness, to answer whether men can get pregnant.
Dr. Verma attempts to contextualize, referencing patients of "many identities," but consistently avoids a direct yes/no.
Hawley insists, "Let’s not make a mockery of this proceeding. This is about science and evidence." (05:01)
The hosts interject commentary, ridiculing the evasiveness and critiquing both Hawley's tactics and Dr. Verma's non-answers.
Joe Getty [06:09]: "Let her explain how men can get pregnant. That's going to do her more harm than you interrupting her, I think."
Jack Armstrong [07:03]: "That's why I showed up today—mockery!"
Media Response & Cultural Commentary
Hosts discuss Mother Jones' coverage labeling Hawley’s questioning as "disinformation about transgender people." (08:15)
They critique the progressive stance, arguing that extreme positions make compromise impossible.
Joe Getty [08:32]: "How do you compromise with that? 'All right, you can have a mustache, but you can't call yourself a man'? Is that the compromise?"
Discussion of Speech Patterns Among Justices (09:24–11:23):
Noting data that female justices, particularly Ketanji Brown Jackson, dominate oral argument time.
Armstrong jokes about stereotypes of women out-talking men at dinner; Getty notes Kagan for conciseness, critiquing Jackson for rambling.
Jack Armstrong [10:55]: "Probably shouldn't be the person that talks the most. Regardless, she talked more, over 11,000 words, than all the male justices added together."
Clarence Thomas' Low Verbosity (11:23–11:40):
Goat in Police Car (14:07–15:07):
Story of a police officer wrangling a goat into his squad car, prompting Jack’s “goat expertise.”
Jack Armstrong [14:25]: "If you open your door near a goat, the hard part is keeping the goat out of your car."
Bear Raids & AI Goat Images (15:13–15:37):
Surprising data that pit bulls kill more people annually (about 65 per year) than school shootings over recent years.
Jack Armstrong [16:24]: "That's one of those great freakonomic stories."
Murder Trends & Gun Violence (17:13–17:58):
Verizon Outage and Geopolitical Paranoia (20:09–21:33):
Recent Police Shootings in Minneapolis (21:33–26:06):
Springboard for criticizing selective media framing, especially in headlines.
Hosts stress the complexity and heightened emotions around federal enforcement operations and community response.
Jack Armstrong [24:14]: "The point of the shooting was not immigration status. It was the fact that they were assaulting an officer."
Mark Halpern’s Analysis of Political Fallout (25:16–27:28):
Program Details (29:35–31:19):
California NGO spent $80 million over five years to provide free alcohol shots to homeless alcoholics—serving only 55 clients.
Joe Getty [32:12]: "That's a $291,000 bar tab annually per person."
Systemic Graft & Futility:
Hosts lambaste the real motive as money laundering to cronies rather than genuine help.
Joe Getty [31:32]: "The intent was to give out the money. The excuse was this will help the [insert] situation."
Jack Armstrong [32:36]: "That should be some Louis XII champagne served to you by Louis XII with Marie Antoinette in a negligee."
Hawley on Science in Hearings:
"Let’s not make a mockery of this proceeding. This is about science and evidence." (Sen. Josh Hawley, 05:01)
On Modern Media—Mother Jones Spin:
"The disinformation being that only women can get pregnant." (Jack Armstrong, 08:18)
Critique of Spending:
"That's a $291,000 bar tab annually per person." (Joe Getty, 32:12)
On Homelessness Programs:
"The intent was to give out the money. The excuse was this will help the [insert] situation." (Joe Getty, 31:32)
Humor in Animal News:
"If you open your door near a goat, the hard part is keeping the goat out of your car, not getting him into your car." (Jack Armstrong, 14:25)
Throughout, Armstrong & Getty maintain their trademark blend of sarcasm, incredulity, and sharp cultural commentary. They punctuate serious discussions on public policy and politics with irreverent humor and snappy one-liners, always keeping the conversation lively and pointed.
This episode exemplifies Armstrong & Getty’s unique style: covering America’s most contentious debates and government follies with wit and skepticism. The hosts dissect viral political moments, lambast government waste, and illuminate media bias—all with good-natured humor and a touch of outrage. Listeners get both the news and the subtext, wrapped in a highly entertaining, conversational package.