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Jack Armstrong
Studio at the George Washington broadcast Center.
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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong.
Jack Armstrong
And.
Joe Getty
For anyone that is taking the bait tonight, stop.
Jack Armstrong
That is not helpful. Go home.
Joe Getty
We cannot counter Donald Trump's chaos with.
Jack Armstrong
Our own brand of chaos.
Joe Getty
And I have seen thousands of people.
Jack Armstrong
Throughout our city peacefully protesting for those that have peacefully protested. I applaud you for those that are taking the bait. You are not helping and you are not helping the undocumented immigrants in our city.
Joe Getty
When you get up in the morning.
Jack Armstrong
Putting on your shoes, think you're gonna hit the streets to express your views.
Joe Getty
Listen to the mayor. Don't join a debate. Mind your own business. Don't take the bait. Don't take the bait. This is pretty good. We're looking for something James Brownish.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that's pretty good.
Joe Getty
It rhymes debate with the bait, which offends me as a songwriter, but oh yeah, that's pretty good and funky.
Jack Armstrong
Don't take the bait.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. You know, I was quoting Kat Rosenfield's absolutely brilliant piece about how the larping lesbian couple that the one gal ended up getting killed. How they had this weird Disney this isn't real, it's fun reality. Yeah, well, the law enforcement officers were afraid of getting boxed in and hit by cars or God knows what else. And, and she mentions that when the first female agent comes to the car, the, the gal who ended up dying said, hey, I've got my child in the car. My 6 year old in the car. And the agent, quote, looks like she's been electrocuted, quote, you child in your car, her voice pitching sharply upward, her eyes wide with horror. Get your child off the scene. This is an active police scene. It could not be clear in this moment that these two women inhabit two different realities. One end understands herself to be in a dangerous high stakes situation. The other thinks it's all some sort of a game.
Jack Armstrong
Right? That does the, the, the still living wife who said drive baby, drive. Man, that video of her, come on, big boy. I mean that's just got such a. Do not understand what the stakes are in this little drama you're playing out.
Joe Getty
Right? Right. You ready for a little? On the other hand.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, boy, here comes Joe Geddes. On the other hand, Cat writes.
Joe Getty
It's not hard to understand why, though nobody, least of all ICE in the administration answers to, has given the average US Citizen much reason to take them or their operations seriously. The attitude of ICE officials toward the public is by turns aggressive and evasive. We still don't have the slightest idea what the agents were doing in that Minneap neighborhood, who they were attempting to detain when one of them ordered Renee Good out of the car or less than two seconds later, to get out of the effing car. And while their operations may be lawful, their optics are something else entirely. Amateurish, undisciplined, like a performance of law and order rather than the thing itself.
Jack Armstrong
I've heard that from a lot of people. I don't know enough about it to have any judgment on it, but I've heard that from a lot of quarters, and not just progressive quarters.
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If you are not about winning arguments online, you want America to be at a better place. I found this intriguing. Critics of ICE are not incorrect when they notice, when they note that the officers who are subject to looser recruitment standards than those of other law enforcement agencies have an unfortunate tendency to look and act like high school bullies, cosplaying as authority figures, men who could meet neither the physical nor intellectual requirements to become real soldiers or real cops, living out their fantasies of wearing a mask, waving a gun, yelling at people to do what they say.
Jack Armstrong
We've all had the experience with people who would kind of like to be real cops or something, but are given, you know, the minor security heft of the job that they've got. And, man, do they like it. We've all experienced that.
Joe Getty
And the result is a pervasive sense that ICE are more like cartoon villains than legitimate law enforcement, that the bulletproof vests are just costumes, the guns merely props, and if they tell you to do something, they carry about as much authority as a Chippendales dancer dressed in a policeman's blues. Sure, you can play along if want to, but if you don't, you can just go home. Yeah, I think all those things are true. There is a reason that good police departments and good cops individually work very, very hard to be respectable, respectful, and above reproach. Because if you grant your government authority, like cops and ICE officers have, for instance, that is an awesome and dangerous power in a free Society. So they had better, the best and most honorable. That's the aspiration anyway. And if we are playing fast and loose with that to have enough ICE officers and recruiting people. And again, Kat Rosenfield is no progressive. She's a very smart, very reasonable conservative writer. If we are really recruiting bunches of people who couldn't make it as regular cops or into our military and giving them military style powers or policing powers, how good an idea is that and what should we do about it? That asking that question don't make me a blank and progressive friends, that makes me a conservative.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And you don't want to hand your opponents a great rhetorical tool or a good story to run against you on.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah, I was talking thinking more good governance as opposed to politics. But that's true too.
Jack Armstrong
Because you care about people.
Joe Getty
I care about politics better than you anyway. That goes anyway. What was I gonna say? Oh, there's something I wanted to add onto that that was not nearly so serious. Now it's flitted out of my mind. You got a bunch of chimps on the savannah wielding spears at each other. Wild Fongoli chimps in the dry, scraggly Sahel. They exist on the extreme edge of what is possible for their species. But scientists are studying them because their ways are different than other chimps. They cool off in caves. They Wield Spears. The 35 wild chimps of Fongoli community have adapted the environment with behaviors that defy their species conventional norms.
Jack Armstrong
Well, you can't spell Fongoli without fun, there's no doubt about that. And what's fun? What's more fun than. What's more fun than a chimp throwing a spear? You were gonna ask me something about a rant.
Joe Getty
Oh, that's right. Speaking of brutality in the streets. It would appear. For now. And feel free to contradict me on that if you like that Trump is back down. He's gotten assurances from the mullahs that they're not gonna hang anybody in the public square. So he's called off the dogs. If that is true, I find that extremely unsatisfying. Do you think that's true?
Jack Armstrong
My hope and assumption that if it's true, it's because there are more concessions given by the mullahs than is being reported.
Joe Getty
Because evidently things have calmed down according to most observers. But they've terrorized the people back into their homes.
Jack Armstrong
I'm hoping that, that there's some sort of, you know, we'll stop pursuing nuclear weapons. I don't know what it would be. But they offered something. I mean, because if they, if they, if Trump made the threat of, if you start killing protesters, I'm coming after you. And then they killed 20,000 protesters. Killed, beaten, tortured 20,000. Killed 20,000. And then probably tortured, beaten, many, many thousands, tens of thousands more.
Joe Getty
If they, even if it was a.
Jack Armstrong
Thousand, if they, if they squashed the rebellion successfully by doing all that. And Trump says, well, it's over now, I suppose there's no point because they.
Joe Getty
Told me they won't hang anybody.
Jack Armstrong
That's not a good look.
Joe Getty
No, I hate that. If that is the reality. It's, you know, there are a bunch of possibilities and we don't know, you know, he may have said, look, I got Suleimani, I got your nuclear program. My finger is on the hair trigger. Okay, I'm watching you people.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I would say that the New York Times reporting, their own reporting today is Trump also indicated that things were more or less over and calmed down back in June. Right before we blasted the crap out of their nuclear weapons program.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
And it was a head fake. And this might be this now. I hope so. Mark Thiessen of the Washington Post, who I usually likes, thinks we need to go after their leadership. They're the number one enemy of the world on the planet. They've killed more Americans than any other country in the last half century. They're the weakest they're ever going to be. Now's the time.
Joe Getty
And they're a never ending font of instability. Right. I happen to agree with them. Although what comes next is always the giant, explosive question.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, we're keeping our eye on this basketball betting scandal. This time it's Division 1 college basketball where they've arrested a whole bunch of people in a point shaving scandal. Players were getting paid 30 grand a piece to, you know, miss shots or whatever because we got so much betting going on around sports, kind of what a lot of people predicted would happen.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I don't know how you're going to stop it.
Jack Armstrong
We got a lot to talk about. Stay here.
Joe Getty
Armstrong and Gettysburg.
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Jack Armstrong
That's from the office. Wikipedia debuted 25 years ago today.
Joe Getty
Is that what you say?
Jack Armstrong
Michael? So in the year 2001.
Joe Getty
I have.
Jack Armstrong
Used Wikipedia up until AI chatbots. Many, many many many times practically daily. Google and Wikipedia. Now I Never use them at all because I use Grok or Claude or something else.
Joe Getty
How long ago was it that Wikipedia swung wildly progressive? Is that like eight years ago? Ten years ago?
Jack Armstrong
I'm still amazed by Grok and Claude and Gemini and ChatGPT. All of which I use in that some of the things they get wrong. For instance, Claude is asking about the hottest movie in America. The most talked about movie in America is right now is one battle after another. Won a whole bunch of Golden Globes. One of the biggest directors in world history. This big movie asked Claude about it and they just. I don't know what you're talking about. I got nothing here. And I've heard of it.
Joe Getty
I'm not a big movie fan.
Jack Armstrong
I even gave the director and it said well, here are the movies that Paul Thomas Anderson has directed and listed all of them. But that he has not directed a movie called. I'm like how could this happen? I mean it's just stunning. Yeah. That that can happen and disturbing. And how often does that happen with things I don't know about when I'm asking IT questions and it tells me stuff which kind of leads me to this. And this was. I asked a chat bot for this answer, which is kind of like cannibalism, I guess. But it was quoting Forbes and a bunch of other tech magazines and therapists and stuff like that. About what? Automation and using tech stuff. And when the AI revolution happens and it's doing all the jobs, what's that going to do to people? This is what the current thinking is by some people. Automation profoundly impacts the human mind and spirit by shifting focus from mundane tasks to creative ones. Potentially. Potentially. Just because something's potential doesn't mean it's going to happen. Look at me. Potentially boosting purpose and reducing stress, but also risking dehumanization, skill erosion, loss of control and existential questions about human value as algorithms take over judgment and meaning. That's a hell of a But also that's one of the all time but also's. Well, if AI can do all the drudgery of life and all the jobs, you won't have to do them. It also might cause you to wonder why you're even alive.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
Freeing humans from higher for high, not from while. Freeing humans for higher level thinking. It can create. Yeah, it can create a sense of being a mere data point. Challenging identity and Dignity, obviously, and shifting cultural values. Notes, this Forbes article and then this other article it references and that sort.
Joe Getty
Of stuff, you know, I'm sorry, I gotta jump in just briefly, and I'm not trying to be smug, because you get the brain you get and you live with it. And there are a lot of people on in the world that are a hell of a lot smarter than me, but I've known a heck of a lot of people I don't think are like, capable or interested in quote, unquote, higher thinking. If you take away their job and their purpose and what they do, they're not going to sit around contemplating the works of Aristotle. They're going to get drunk, lay around.
Jack Armstrong
I would say that's most people, wouldn't you? Is that fair to say that most people aren't interested in writing the great novel or learning to play the cello? Well, right.
Joe Getty
Nobody rate it anyway.
Jack Armstrong
Or working for a charity because they've got so much free time and might just stare at the television and drink.
Joe Getty
Well, and as Abraham Lincoln said, God mostly loved the common people best because he made the most of us. So, yeah, it's no insult, but that's, that's. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. You're saying humanity's gonna be freed up to contemplate the higher meanings of life, and by the way, you're gonna lose your humanity and have no skills in the rest of it. Yeah. Okay.
Jack Armstrong
I guess one of the things I find interesting is whether it's this chatbot or individuals I've heard on podcasts talking about this, that they position it as. It could challenge some people's identity and feeling of dignity if they don't have a job.
Joe Getty
Well, how are you?
Jack Armstrong
How are you and I both human beings? And it's not just abundantly clear to you that that's what will happen, as opposed to it could happen.
Joe Getty
Yeah. How do we.
Jack Armstrong
How do we scream forward with AI eliminating all the jobs without wrestling to the ground the idea of. And then people are going to do what?
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Joe Getty
I know. Well, because there's no stopping it, apparently. What about China? Is what I always come back to. They don't care.
Jack Armstrong
Well, that's fine, but I don't see any downside to getting on, getting a head start on what are people going to do for any sort of feeling of meaning in their lives when they no longer work.
Joe Getty
Right. Yeah, I agree with you.
Jack Armstrong
How is that? Like an afterthought or something? Only pains in the ass bring up.
Joe Getty
You know, I've got Another one for you, unless you have more contemplating on that. It was I was working with happened to be chatgpt on a project yesterday. I actually upgraded to the paid version finally and it was compiling lists of various information on various topics that had to do with liberty and political freedom and economic freedom and that sort of stuff. I'm working on something, I don't want to bore you with the details, but it kept stopping and saying ChatGPT is not oriented to give you that sort of content. And I asked it, hey, I keep getting this message. Why? It said, well it must be because there's so many references to war and revolution and death and that sort of thing. And I'm like, you know what I'm doing and why I'm doing it. Can't you tell yourself what I'm doing? And they finally had to give me like a half ass version so ChatGPT itself wouldn't keep interrupting and saying I can't give you that because it's a reference to revolution.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, well that's the alignment problem. They're trying to figure that out. And so somebody's got that coded to not allow people to talk about revolution to try to keep, you know, terrorists something or other. And it's too strict currently, obviously figure it out.
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Jack Armstrong
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Jack Armstrong
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Jack Armstrong
President, would have nuked Denmark. Ted Cruz back in 2016 when he was running against Trump for the nomination. Kind of funny when you think back on it. Now that why Denmark? Now that Denmark has sent troops to Greenland to defend their territory? Here's how CBS presented it. It was the lead story on CBS and abc. Those were the two big network evening newscasts I watched last night. Both went with Greenland as lead story. Here's how it sounded on CBS for their teeth.
Joe Getty
Good to be with you. I'm Tony Coppola in Chicago. The breaking news right now, the battle for Greenland. President Trump says anything short of full US Control of the world's largest island is, quote, unacceptable. If we don't go in, Russia is going to go in and China is going to go in. What's at stake for US Security tonight? Weiji Zhang standing by at the White House.
Jack Armstrong
That's some pretty hot sounding teasing there of a story like this is real. But I don't know, I don't know.
Joe Getty
What, I don't know what, to what.
Jack Armstrong
Extent to treat this like real. The military part. We, we definitely want Greenland. And most of my favorite pundits seem to think we will end up controlling Greenland in some way through buying it and various, you know, soft power things. This is what Trump said yesterday.
Joe Getty
We need Greenland for national security. If we don't go in, Russia's going to go in and China's going to go in.
Jack Armstrong
Trump was asked about that by our reporter. This was On Fox yesterday. 82.
Joe Getty
Michael, on NATO right now it sounds like you are saying that you would.
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Joe Getty
Are. Are you saying that?
Jack Armstrong
Would you do that?
Joe Getty
No. You're saying that I didn't say it. No. You're telling me that that's what I'm going to do. You don't know what I'm going to do. I can't rely on Denmark being able to fend themselves off. You know, they were talking about they put an extra dog and they were serious about this. They put an extra dog sled there. Last month they added a second dog sled. That's not going to do the trick. That's some pretty funny trolling. It's ridiculous, though. Russia and China are going to come in what? It's a NATO country. No. We're bound by treaty to defend them.
Jack Armstrong
So here's some more reporting on the Danes taking this seriously, apparently from cnn. The Danish foreign minister, what he's been able to do is buy a little time for the people of Greenland where they don't have to expect the hard option from President Trump that troops might be coming or somehow the country gets annexed these couple of weeks. Also by Denmark, more time you have Swedish troops coming, Norwegian troops coming, German troops coming, Danish troops coming. It allows more time for the NATO allies and part partners, particularly in the north of Europe, to show President Trump that NATO can give the level of security that he wants to see in and around Greenland. Oh, okay, okay. That's a different couching of it than I heard on other networks. So when I heard that the French had sent troops and then this report says the Germans have sent troops, it's not to fight us if we land marines right in Greenland, it's to show Trump that, no, we are perfectly willing to send NATO troops to defend Greenland against China and Russia. We're treating it as an actual NATO territory. Don't worry about it. Okay, well, that's. That's completely different.
Joe Getty
As Looney Tunes as I find and unproductive as I find, threatening our friends. If this was a maybe, maybe we'd break up NATO. I don't know, style Trump really going balls to the walls with a bluff in the way that. Or maybe it's not a bluff in a way that most presidents wouldn't. And then NATO virtually all waking up and saying, all right, we'll spend more, we'll spend more. I tip my cap to him. I don't particularly like the methodology, but, yeah, if NATO's waking up and saying, yeah, Greenland's an incredibly important asset and we're all prepared to defend it with our lives. Lives.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, did the people who misled me mislead me on purpose, or were they confused? So when you say, maybe I just misunderstood them. When they. You. When they say France. Emmanuel Macron has announced France will be sending troops to defend Greenland. I assumed, given the tenor of the story so far, that they meant defend Greenland from the United States, but they meant defend Greenland from any aggression, Right?
Joe Getty
Yeah, I don't know. I didn't hear that report.
Jack Armstrong
Well, how had you taken it? All these stories of Danish troops going.
Joe Getty
Well, I don't. I didn't hear the story, so I don't know how it was presented.
Jack Armstrong
I. I see what we talked about yesterday, though. I mean, when you were hearing about the Danes were sending troops, did you assume it was to defend Greenland against.
Joe Getty
Russia, to demonstrate that it could be defended by NATO, blah, blah, blah. No, I did not assume that. Neither do I. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like the headline. The Wall Street Journal. Welcome to Greenland. An economy reliant on subsidies and shrimp. I do enjoy shrimp.
Jack Armstrong
Seriously, with the cost of a military operation, that's got to be. I'll bet it's like you can spend a billion dollars like that with a big military operation. Yeah, just buy these people off. There's like 35,000 of them. Write them all giant checks. Buy them, you know, a Land Cruiser and a nice house.
Joe Getty
Well, again, I find the idea of attacking one of our allies so freaking abhorrent. It's like you're saying, hey, instead of raping somebody, we could do this. No, no, no, no. You don't even get to say, instead of this. This doesn't exist. This is a horror.
Jack Armstrong
And I keep forgetting what you said the other day. We wouldn't be buying off the Greenland. People of Greenland. We got to buy off the Danes because belongs to Denmark.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it's it's mostly a money suck for them, honestly, but it's, it's part, it's been part of the great greater Danish kingdom for a very long time. And you just don't, you don't carve yourself up because your bigger neighbor says you ought to ask the Ukrainians. So I don't. You know. Yeah. Well, let's work something out.
Jack Armstrong
We were listening to the news Yesterday and my 14 year old, and he's only been 14 for two weeks, my 14 year old said, if we take Greenland by force, how are we supposed to tell China? They can't tell. Take Taiwan. I said you could have a talk show.
Joe Getty
Well, yeah, you could. Although that's a very childlike question, Jack, which is asked all the time. That's Xi Jinping. Doesn't look to us for permission for anything. No, but Vladimir Putin, it's like the whole. If you take Maduro like that, doesn't that give Xi Jinping permission to. That's not the way the world works.
Jack Armstrong
But rhetorically, it hurts your argument.
Joe Getty
Oh, you certainly don't like a moral.
Jack Armstrong
Argument where stronger countries can take smaller countries next to them. We don't.
Joe Getty
Yeah, we always have. Yeah, that's why small countries band together and vow to defend each other. Because together they make a big country. Yeah, exactly. No, he's right. He's right on a rhetorical level. 100%. The island is one of the world's biggest welfare states. A vast expanse of ice clad villages whose residents, reachable only by helicopter and prop jet, are nonetheless accustomed to the perks of Denmark's social democracy. From free health care to robust schools.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know anything about their government. Is Bjork their queen?
Joe Getty
She is indeed. No, that's Iceland. Iceland. Iceland is green and Greenland is icy. That's how you remember it. Their population is indeed 57,000, thinly spread down the coast of some of the world's most environmentally hostile territory. A country 80% covered with ice. Living standards vary enormously in the capital, which of course you can name Greenland.
Jack Armstrong
I'm going to go with Greenland City.
Joe Getty
That's a good guess. Wait a minute, wait a minute. I'm going to go Tucker Carlson here. You're going to invade Greenland and you don't even know the name of the capital?
Jack Armstrong
Guessing.
Joe Getty
I don't know how to pronounce it.
Jack Armstrong
I'm guessing it's got a lot of vowels.
Joe Getty
It's got two vowels. Well, it's got one vowel twice. It's spelled N, U, U, K, Nook. Nuke?
Jack Armstrong
Newark.
Joe Getty
I don't know. So in the capital, Newark, locals can play golf and dine in a fine Thai restaurant. In smaller, remote settlements where wages are 50% lower, people bathe by hacking out chunks of ice to melt.
Jack Armstrong
Well, that's a tiny population.
Joe Getty
Less than a hundred miles of paved.
Jack Armstrong
Road in the whole country.
Joe Getty
Yes, it's a country slightly bigger than Mexico with a hundred miles of paved road. Less. Wow.
Jack Armstrong
So if you're born in Greenland, you're born into, like. It's like being born on an Indian reservation in a lot of ways.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Unless you're in the shining capital of Nuke, where they play golf and dine at fine Thai restaurants.
Jack Armstrong
That's what I like. After a round of golf, man, do I get hungry for the pad Thai.
Joe Getty
Oh, please, please go low on the links and grab you a little pad Thai. Nothing better. Nothing better.
Jack Armstrong
When in Nuke.
Joe Getty
Tell you what, honey, I wasn't sure when you said we ought to move to Nuke, but I'm really enjoying it. Of course, if I ever decide I want to play pickleball and eat, I don't know, sushi, I'm screwed.
Jack Armstrong
No, you got to move to a different country.
Joe Getty
Golf and Thai food. Got that covered.
Jack Armstrong
Got your penguin helpers washing your car and doing your laundry. I assume that's what penguins do.
Joe Getty
We occasionally have somebody email, say, would you please tell Jack penguins exist in the Southern hemisphere, the Antarctic? And I would like to reply, no, I'm not going to tell them that. It's too much fun to hear about penguins all the time. Well, hey, they got a little penguin knowledge. They're gonna flaunt it. They don't. They don't care for your careless penguin misinformation and disinformation.
Jack Armstrong
So we're gonna hold these ridiculous jokes we've been making about Greenland for the last year to close scrutiny of authenticity.
Joe Getty
Well, before the war begins. Yes. Yeah, let's see. We could compare that same person is.
Jack Armstrong
Gonna email and say Bjork is a singer and not actually in politics and either country. Oh, okay.
Joe Getty
Oh, boy. The elaborate costume wearing Toonsmith is actually not interested in governance. Let's see. So the Trump administration has offered to buy the island, which the Greenland government says is not for sale. The Danes agree administration officials have discussed making payments directly to Greenlanders to win them over by them. Yes. They're also considering a proposal that would involve Greenland becoming independent from Denmark and receiving U.S. payments to cover some running costs in turn for preference differential access for the US Point of comparison, is the Marshall Islands, which recently renewed what is called a compact of free association with the United States. The Pacific Islands government, which is fully dependent on the US receives $115 million a year from Washington in return from granting, for granting America authority over defense matters.
Jack Armstrong
Well, that's, that's where we get into that complicated thing that I don't quite understand. We're talking about yesterday and, and many people have written about we have had and have the right to use Greenland the way we need to for defense. So what are we trying to accomplish?
Joe Getty
I don't get it. It's Trump being having a hard on for great real estate. Sorry that with all the minerals and blah blah blah. That's what it is. Honestly I believe that and you cannot sway me from that because we had a gigantic base that we downsized significantly. They're part of NATO. They're dependent on us for their security. If we tell them hey, this is super, super important, we put these weapons in these facilities, blah blah blah, they will say yes. And if they don't say yes, we'll say yeah, we're doing it anyway. And we will.
Jack Armstrong
You give everybody 10 gallons of whale oil in a snowmobile and they're happy the rest of their lives.
Joe Getty
Oh please. They jump at that deal.
Jack Armstrong
Who wouldn't? We'll finish strong.
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Joe Getty
Is Law and Order.
Jack Armstrong
Oh yeah. You could pick up any, you can watch any, any episode. Did you know I'm on the Law and Order episode? Which one? You don't even know. Look, Law and Order is my favorite ever. So when I when that was my one of my dreams as a kid.
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Jack Armstrong
Off and watch it.
Joe Getty
Okay?
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Joe Getty
How you doing? So yesterday I saw a couple of examples of editorial omity comedy with a editorial purpose that I thought were pretty good. The one we're not gonna play you was a guy and it's funny. Both of these guys do the same thing. They dress in ways that indicate to you that they are real progress. You know, some piercings, whether fake or real, progressive cost. T shirt, dyed hair, whatever. Because it kind of disarms the people that they're making fun of or pointing out the truth to. And the one we're not gonna play is this guy sees this car in the neighborhood and the bumper sticker says, abortion is healthcare. And he goes up to her door claiming to be from an animal rights group that is raising money to pay for animal health care. And when the woman indicates, yeah, she'd love to donate to the. That, he says, yeah, it's mostly about aborting puppies because there are way too many puppies, she's like, oh, my God, you can't do that. Why not? Because they're puppies. Right. And he says, wait a minute. And it's pretty good.
Jack Armstrong
I'll bet that's pretty commonly held belief.
Joe Getty
I'll bet you're right.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. That boarding kittens or puppies would just be horrific.
Joe Getty
Well, right. About the. What about the rights of the mother, Puppy or dog, rather. Anyway, when we are going to play, you is a guy by the name of Josh Cider or Cedar, who he is talking to a teacher or an administrator at the edge of some school grounds.
Jack Armstrong
I saw that you have a sign in the window. It says, everyone's welcome here except ice. Yes. If ICE were to come onto the premises, would you guys kick them off?
Joe Getty
Absolutely. We believe in the safety of our students and our faculty, so we would have them leave. Okay.
Jack Armstrong
Isn't that how immigration works?
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Jack Armstrong
Isn't that how immigration works? Everyone's welcome except illegals. And if they come into the country, we kick them. Come out.
Joe Getty
Why are you asking me these questions?
Jack Armstrong
Well, it's a simple question. You should be able to answer it. You're a teacher.
Joe Getty
Yeah. I don't know who you are. You're filming as.
Jack Armstrong
You don't need to know who I am. I'm undocumented.
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You're on full property, and technically, you're trespassing.
Jack Armstrong
Ma', am, no one's trespassing on illegal land, so.
Joe Getty
Okay, well, you haven't shown me an id. I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, so now you need my papers?
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
Are you the Gestapo? Now you want to see my papers?
Joe Getty
And it goes on like that for a while. Yeah. It's interesting when you run into progressive like that, or the other one I was describing, or the people who can't tell you, as we played earlier, can a man get pregnant or is A boy who says, I'm a girl. Really? A girl. They can't give you a straight answer. Now the real fanatics say, yes, trans women are women, and of course they're crazy. But it's amazing how quickly they go to, who are you? Why are you you here? You got to get off my property. It's Final Thoughts. I'm strong. Again. It's final thoughts. It's Final Thoughts.
Jack Armstrong
I'm strong.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Here's your host for final Thoughts, Joe Getty.
Joe Getty
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show.
Jack Armstrong
There he is.
Joe Getty
Michelangelo, pressing the button buttons in the controller. Michael, what's your final thought? Yeah, my final thought is about final thoughts. Actually, I think we need some more final thought intros. Would that be okay?
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Good idea. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And especially the technology is even better now than it was before. You don't have to have any instruments or talent at all if you have an AI bot at all. You could create some final thoughts intros for us.
Joe Getty
Yeah, email them, attach them to a mailbag@armstrongandgetti.com Good idea. Michael, Katie Green has a final thought. Katie, since you guys did the story.
Jack Armstrong
I've been thinking up my horror movie.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, you didn't hear about that? Oh, that's something.
Joe Getty
Just a great idea. Or just a nightmare?
Jack Armstrong
Just stick your arm in this hole.
Joe Getty
Don't ask.
Jack Armstrong
Don't ask questions.
Joe Getty
Yeah, sit still, Jack. A final thought for us.
Jack Armstrong
So now, Division 1 NCAA basketball. You got players on the take for tens of thousands of dollars, point shaving around gambling. Do you think there'll be any changes and gambling laws around all these?
Joe Getty
There will be a great deal of interest in figuring that out. I wish them luck.
Jack Armstrong
I don't think we're gonna change anything, but I don't know how we're gonna stop this either.
Joe Getty
You know, a couple of the players played this past season, including Said Quavius Hunter. I just hope all the little kids on playgrounds around the country named Said Cuevius aren't, you know, tarred by his bad behavior here.
Jack Armstrong
Right, Armstrong. And get Quavious getting another grueling four hour workday.
Joe Getty
So many people to thank, so little time. Go to armstrong yeti.com drop us a note mailbag@armstrongetti.com check out the hot links. Katie's corner. You ought to be subscribing to Armstrong and Getty on demand downloads automatically so you never miss a bit. Plus you get the One more Thing podcast for no extra charge. We'll see you tomorrow on Friday.
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Episode: Just Stick Your Arm In This Hole
Date: January 15, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
In this episode, Armstrong & Getty weave together sharp political commentary, cultural analysis, and signature humor. The show kicks off with reflections on civil unrest and law enforcement, then dives into critiques of immigration enforcement culture and procedures. The discussion pivots into the impact of AI and automation on society, with the hosts expressing skepticism about utopian technological narratives. Later, the show unpacks the ongoing (satirical) Greenland controversy involving the U.S., Russia, and NATO allies, and closes with humorous takes on cultural contradictions, betting scandals, and the quirks of Greenlandic life.
[03:06–04:20]
"We cannot counter Donald Trump's chaos with our own brand of chaos." — Joe Getty [03:21]
[04:20–09:01]
“It could not be clearer in this moment that these two women inhabit two different realities…” — Joe Getty quoting Rosenfield [05:07]
"If we are really recruiting bunches of people who couldn’t make it as regular cops or into our military... how good an idea is that?" — Joe Getty [07:42]
[10:08–12:55]
"If Trump made the threat... and then they killed 20,000 protesters... and then probably tortured, beaten, many, many thousands, tens of thousands more... That's not a good look." — Jack Armstrong [11:07]
[12:33–12:57]; [45:26–45:49]
“Kind of what a lot of people predicted would happen.” — Jack Armstrong [12:52]
“I don’t think we're gonna change anything, but I don’t know how we're gonna stop this either.” — Jack Armstrong [45:45]
[15:47–22:35]
“Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject so you know you are getting the best possible information.” — Joe Getty, quoting The Office [15:53]
“It also might cause you to wonder why you’re even alive.” — Jack Armstrong [18:18]
“I've known a heck of a lot of people I don’t think are like, capable or interested in ‘higher thinking’... They’re going to get drunk, lay around.” — Joe Getty [19:12]
[25:30–37:59]
“Just buy these people off. There’s like 35,000 of them. Write them all giant checks. Buy them, you know, a Land Cruiser and a nice house.” — Jack Armstrong [31:08]
“If we take Greenland by force, how are we supposed to tell China they can’t take Taiwan? ...You could have a talk show.” — 14-year-old Armstrong (paraphrased) & Jack Armstrong [32:09]
[41:32–44:25]
“You’re on school property, and technically you’re trespassing.”
“Ma’am, no one’s trespassing on illegal land, so…”
“So now you need my papers?... Are you the Gestapo?” [43:02–43:44]
[44:32–46:29]
“Just stick your arm in this hole. Don’t ask questions.” — Jack Armstrong [45:19]
“You got your penguin helpers washing your car... I assume that’s what penguins do.” — Jack Armstrong [35:24]
“If we are playing fast and loose with that to have enough ICE officers and recruiting people... how good an idea is that?” — Joe Getty [07:42]
“It also might cause you to wonder why you’re even alive.” — Jack Armstrong [18:18] “I've known a heck of a lot of people I don’t think are like, capable or interested in ‘higher thinking’...” — Joe Getty [19:12]
“Just buy these people off. There’s like 35,000 of them. Write them all giant checks. Buy them, you know, a Land Cruiser and a nice house.” — Jack Armstrong [31:08] “If we take Greenland by force, how are we supposed to tell China they can’t take Taiwan?” — Armstrong's son [32:09]
“So now you need my papers?... Are you the Gestapo?” — Jack Armstrong [43:36]
“Just stick your arm in this hole. Don’t ask questions.” — Jack Armstrong [45:19]
Irreverent, probing, and sardonic; Jack and Joe blend earnest commentary with satirical flourishes and playful banter. Even when tackling serious policy issues, the mood stays conversational and peppered with running jokes, parodies, and asides.
Summary prepared for listeners who missed the episode or want a comprehensive recap of its most important, witty, and insightful moments.