Less Slog. More Nog.

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand - "Less Slog. More Nog."

Date: November 12, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Notable Guests/Voices: Katie Green, Michael, Tish Hyman

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Episode Overview

This lively episode dives into the intersection of holiday season debates, American political absurdities, ongoing air traffic chaos, woke culture showdowns, and new revelations from the Jeffrey Epstein case. True to the Armstrong & Getty style, the show is irreverent, fast-moving, peppered with pop culture, news commentary, and a healthy dose of sarcasm.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. When Does the Christmas Season Really Begin?

(01:29 – 07:13)

• The hosts wade into a heartfelt national dispute: Is it officially Christmas season yet?
• Jack recalls childhood tradition of the tree going up the day after Thanksgiving, leading to belief that Christmas starts post-Thanksgiving.
• Joe rails against "corporate America," lamenting that consumerism has hijacked the holiday calendar.
• In-studio poll: Michael says yes (already Christmas season), Katie and the hosts say no.
  • Notable quote:

    "If stores think people are buying stuff, it's Christmas season for them."
    — Jack Armstrong (04:29)

  • Joe Getty: “We’ve declared that consumerism is Jesus... it’s a Jesus-free zone.” (04:41)
• Discussion of Michael’s hyper-preparedness—he finishes Christmas shopping in October.
• Debate on procrastination vs. extreme early completion and how it affects stress and enjoyment.
  • Notable quote:

    "Less slog, more nog."
    — Joe Getty (07:09)

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2. Geopolitics: Venezuela, Aircraft Carriers, and a Caribbean Showdown

(01:35 – 02:26, 14:40 – 15:16)

• Brief update on the Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier headed to the Caribbean and Venezuela massing troops.
• Hosts express concern about escalation but employ their signature sardonic tone.
  • Joe Getty: “I was reminded that we lost a couple of dozen service personnel in that completely one-sided rout [Panama]. Let’s proceed carefully.” (14:54)

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3. Airline/Air Traffic Shutdown: Chaos in the Skies

(07:53 – 08:38, 35:10 – 35:59)

• Discussion of ongoing flight cancellations, referencing an unnamed Secretary of Transportation predicting 8–10% of flights canceled.
• Anecdote about how hard it is for airlines to reset after mass cancellations.
• Mailbag segment ties in: Listeners provide background on FAA worker retirements, retention challenges, and labor issues.

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4. Epstein Case—New Emails Released

(13:45 – 14:04, 18:13 – 23:40)

• Katie Green highlights the lead news story: House Democrats release new Epstein emails referencing Trump.
• Jack and Joe express skepticism regarding timing and context of the release.
  • Jack Armstrong: "If you had a quote that says specifically Trump knew about underage girls... you would include that quote. You didn’t.” (19:54)
• Discussion about the political weaponization of the Epstein story and the enduring mystery and conspiracy.
• Observations on Ghislaine Maxwell's reportedly cushy treatment in prison.
  • Joe Getty: “That has… absolutely the appearance of impropriety.” (22:19)
• Armstrong theorizes Trump might have seen "young girls" at Epstein gatherings and chosen to distance himself, but not necessarily known specifics.

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5. Transgender Issues & Women's Spaces: The Gold’s Gym Town Hall

(08:52 – 12:53, 24:13 – 29:41)

• Audio segment from Los Angeles town hall featuring Tish Hyman, a black lesbian woman, confronting CA Assemblyman Scott Wiener over transgender women in women’s spaces after her experience at Gold’s Gym.
  • Tish Hyman:

    "As a lesbian woman who was attacked in the woman’s locker room at Gold’s Gym this week by a self-identifying trans woman with a documented history of domestic violence, I’m deeply concerned about women’s safety in female-only spaces. What would you say to women…?" (25:05)

  • Scott Wiener: Sticks to party line about protecting "all women, including trans women," but clearly struggles to answer the specifics.
• Scene depicted as a microcosm of the left’s "collapsing intersectionality": Tish tries to pull rank as a black lesbian but is out-grieved by trans advocacy.
• Hosts mock Weiner's doctrinaire responses; conversation turns on the shifting "hierarchy of grievance" in identity politics.
  • Joe Getty:

    “Evidently, on the totem pole of grievance, dudes pretending to be women are on top of black lesbians.” (10:10)

  • Jack Armstrong:

    “...you could trump anything with, 'I’m a black gay woman'... Until you ran up against the trans crowd.” (27:53)

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6. Headlines Round-up & Cultural Oddities

(13:42 – 17:40)

• Katie Green reads rapid-fire headlines, sparking quick reactions:
  • New Trump plan: 50-year mortgage; making coffee and bananas more affordable (15:54).
    • Joe’s joking vision of bliss: “relaxing on a Saturday morning with my cup of joe and my banana” (16:11).
  • Maine health system sends 500 mistaken death notices (16:21): “I don’t feel dead.” — Joe Getty (16:30)
  • Influencer gets arrested after taunting cops (16:34).
  • Hilarious “study”: seagulls react differently if you’re mad at them (16:48).
• Laughter and riffs about pronunciation and what passes for scholarly research.

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7. Political Satire & Media Critique

(17:20 – 17:40, 17:41 – 17:55)

• Babylon Bee lampoon: “Latest Tucker guest, Bigfoot, reveals how mind-controlling chemtrails are sprayed all over flat earth by the Jews.”
  • Joe gives brief critique of Tucker Carlson's recent embrace of conspiracies.
  • Jack: “He’s figured out how to profit off of poor unfortunate people."

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8. Upcoming and Teased Topics

(12:56 – 13:10, 36:41 – 36:52)

• Jack teases later discussion on decline of American culture ("I really want to... talk about the decay of American culture over the last half century or more").
• Armstrong and Getty mention an upcoming deep-dive hour on the shocking deficit in basic math skills among UC San Diego entrants, plus a review of Randy Weingarten's new book.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

The Christmas Season Debate

• Joe Getty: “Less slog, more nog.” (07:09)
• Jack Armstrong: “If you do it so early, you’ve just moved the pressure up... If you’re the sort of person, you feel pressure to get everything done nine months early because you might be under pressure run that when the due date comes. I don’t know what that is.” (05:36)

Intersectionality Rumble at Gold's Gym

• Tish Hyman: “I’m a lesbian. I’m not transphobic. And I’m black... I’m telling you right now, men are harassing women in the locker room.” (28:32)
• Joe Getty: “Her lived experience, my truth, that whole thing.” (29:03)
• Armstrong: "Until you ran up against the trans crowd. You could trump anything with, 'I’m a black gay woman.' ...But this time it didn’t work because you’re up against the trans crowd. And for some reason, in some people’s eyes, that trumps everything." (27:53–28:12)

Epstein News & Political Media

• Jack Armstrong (on Epstein emails): “Why didn’t this stuff come out then?” (20:10)

Cultural Satire

• Katie Green: "From the Babylon Bee. Latest Tucker guest Bigfoot reveals how mind controlling chemtrails are sprayed all over the flat earth by the Jews." (17:26)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:45–04:06 — Banter and Christmas season debate
• 04:41–07:13 — Consumerism vs. tradition; Michael’s early shopping habit
• 07:53–08:38 — Airline shutdown impact
• 08:52–12:53 & 24:13–29:41 — Gold’s Gym/Transgender town hall confrontation (w/ Scott Wiener & Tish Hyman)
• 13:42–17:40 — Headlines with Katie Green
• 18:13–23:40 — Epstein emails, context, and political implications
• 29:41–33:38 — Deeper reflection on intersectionality and woke priorities
• 36:41–36:52 — Tease for shocking math skills story next hour

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Summary

This entertaining episode is a snapshot of the Armstrong & Getty universe: a rapid-fire mix of topical news, pop culture jabs, and social commentary. The highlight is the robust, sometimes laugh-out-loud, sometimes jaw-dropping debate about holiday traditions, the nature of consumerism, the shifting sands of woke and intersectional politics (centered around women’s spaces and trans activism), and the mysterious, undying tendrils of the Epstein case.

The show’s chemistry is underscored by playful jabs (“Less slog, more nog!”), no-holds-barred skepticism (“We’ve declared that consumerism is Jesus... a Jesus-free zone”), and a willingness to tackle uncomfortable culture war fronts—while keeping the mood engaging for newcomers and regulars alike.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

And now here. Here's Armstrong and get.

[Jack Armstrong]

Live from Studio.

[Joe Getty]

C. It's a dimly lit room deep.

[Jack Armstrong]

Within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. Hey, y'. All. Hump day. Freaking Camel in the studio for hump day. It's a promotion.

[Joe Getty]

Camel cigarettes. We signed the deal 50 years ago. It was a mistake.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a long term deal and it's Camel in the studio on hump day. So anyway, today we're under the tutelage of our general manager, Gerald R. Ford.

[Joe Getty]

Not the man. The gigantic aircraft carrier which we have sent down to the Caribbean to warn China, you best not cross the Straits of Taiwan and attack our ally and chip maker Haiti or something. That's the menace. Maduro, right? I remember when the Caribbean was not our greatest security. You know, the naval area.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then I saw this headline today, Venezuela placed on high alert with massive mobilization of soldiers and militia. Defense minister says so they're ready to defend themselves against the US Marines.

[Joe Getty]

I hope that doesn't happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hope not either.

[Joe Getty]

We can squeeze Maduro in a number of ways.

[Jack Armstrong]

I gotta continue sending in the Marines.

[Joe Getty]

Sorry.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gotta continue a conversation I just, I heard on Fox and Friends. Since I've had on my mind. Are we in Christmas season yet? Yes or no? There's an argument they got into.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. I happen to be on the golf course the other day and glanced into a house that was near the. The hole we were on. And I said to my buddy, I saw their outdoor like screened in patio and I said, 10 yards for premature Christmas tree display. They had their tree up and decorated.

[Jack Armstrong]

I thought, what?

[Joe Getty]

What are you doing?

[Jack Armstrong]

So apparently there's some place where. And it was military people. So that's why it's making the news. Some military people were told they had to take down their Christmas decorations because it doesn't fit with whatever rules they have in that neighborhood. But then the discussion been, well, when's Christmas ev season start? And I don't care about decorations. Put up your decorations. Now, I'm not going to complain about that, but I don't feel like it's Christmas season right now. But I just. I. It's only because my mom put the tree up day after Thanksgiving every year. So it was embedded in my mind that Christmas season starts the day after Thanksgiving and it's. We're clearly a couple of weeks away from Thanksgiving.

[Joe Getty]

No, the. The Trump administration needs to push through an executive order because Congress doesn't pass laws anymore defining specific holiday seasons and the anti. Holiday overl regulations.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, the government needs to be involved in when. But, but just off top of your head, Katie. Michael.

[Joe Getty]

Yo.

[Jack Armstrong]

Are we in Christmas season right now?

[Joe Getty]

No. Yes.

[Katie Green]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael says yes. Case is no. I'm a no. Joe. No.

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Katie Green]

Day after Thanksgiving.

[Joe Getty]

Michael's a leftist. Why are you closeted leftist? We never suspected.

[Michael]

You walk into stores, there's Christmas trees up. There's. Everything's Christmas already. There's.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's Christmas.

[Joe Getty]

You chew him out, Katie, you do it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Katie Green]

There's Christmas stuff in every store year round.

[Tish Hyman]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know you're gonna dance at the.

[Joe Getty]

End of corporate America's chain like some sort of trained monkey. Michael, are you answering the question? Are you?

[Jack Armstrong]

Our argument is, well, I think correct and theoretical, but Michael's argument is technically the right answer. I suppose if stores think people are buying stuff, it's Christmas season for them.

[Joe Getty]

Now, look, at least three quarters. Seriously, if we, if you, if we go with what you just said, then we have declared that consumerism is jes. And the old Jewish guy in the, you know, back in Nazareth, he was. Oh, that's right. I forgot. That's Jesus. The birthday. Right. No, no, We've declared it's a Jesus free zone. We go with you. It's disgusting.

[Katie Green]

And we're also talking about the, the nice, sweet young man Michael, who finished his freaking Christmas shopping like three weeks ago.

[Michael]

That's true.

[Joe Getty]

What the hell is that? Yeah, what is that? Michael, why do you get your Christmas.

[Jack Armstrong]

Shopping done in October?

[Michael]

I just don't want to have to worry about it.

[Katie Green]

Christmas season.

[Joe Getty]

It's like he's got some sort of weird seasonal jet lag. He was in some country that was three months ahead, and now his sleeping pattern is.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is a thing that's always been interesting to me. The anti procrastinator. Like, I'm a procrastinator and it has made my life miserable. And I'd be much better off if I got things done earlier because you do end up with the pressure. But there's something in Between. Because if you do it so early, whatever it is, your taxes, your Christmas, if you do it so early, you've just moved the pressure up to me. If you're the sort of person, you feel pressure to get everything done nine months early because you might be under pressure, run that when the due date comes. I don't know what that is.

[Joe Getty]

This is fascinating. Let's put Michael on the couch. So, Michael, do you feel like you are responding to some sort of internal pressure to get it done so early or do you just enjoy it? Why so early?

[Michael]

I just try and make the hollow holiday stress free. So that's why I do it. Get it out of the way and I don't worry about it.

[Joe Getty]

Wisdom. That's weird.

[Michael]

Like 4th of July, I'll get fireworks in April, you know, and I just don't have to worry about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I feel like you're living your life under the thumb of pressure, of being so worried about pressure that you get things done so early.

[Joe Getty]

He doesn't sound worried to me though.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, that's true.

[Michael]

No, I'm totally relaxed.

[Joe Getty]

I don't relax.

[Jack Armstrong]

So then you spend the whole Christmas, because part of the whole Christmas season is the, is the shopping and the, you know, a little bit of hubbub, too much hubbub is no good. But a little bit of the shopping and all that sort of stuff, you just, you've eliminated all that. So what do you, what do you do? Just watch other people?

[Michael]

I just sit around the wife. We watch a Hallmark Christmas movie. We do all the usual stuff, you know.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, I say less slog, more nog. That's my answer. Huh.

[Jack Armstrong]

There you go. That's interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Hanson will have a T shirt ready by noon, right? Don't nobody wants it.

[Jack Armstrong]

So anyway, welcome to the show. Glad you're here. The shutdown ends most likely at 6 o' clock tonight, west coast time. Doesn't help the airport situation though. Not nobody seems to be exactly sure what's going to happen there if the numbers are going to stay the same. Regardless, that's what it sounds like from Secretary of Transportation Duffy that 8% of flights will be canceled tomorrow and 10% on Friday. And he hasn't said anything like that won't happen if the shutdown ends tonight. Sounds like that's happening anyway.

[Joe Getty]

I once had an airline pilot explain to me what it's like getting the crews where they need to be after say, a massive weather event or something like that. Totally screws up air traffic. And this is, you know, like the whole country had a massive weather event, and his explanation stressed me out, listening to it. So untangling all this and hitting go again, I don't. I don't even know what that looks like. It's got to be complicated. If you're in the airline industry and you want to drop us an email kind of explaining it, I'm sure people would find it interesting. Mailbag at armstrong and getty.com Thousands of flights canceled yesterday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thousands of more expected today. And if it goes to 8% and 10% the next two days, it's going to be. Well, 10% would be the 4,500 we were talking about. Last week's canceled.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this. It is Wednesday, Hump day. Camel in the studio. November 12th, the year 2025, where Armstrong and Gideon. We approve of this program.

[Joe Getty]

Let's start officially then, according to FCC rules and regulations. Here we go at Mark.

[Tish Hyman]

Women. Trans women are different than women. Women, listen. We need to protect women's safety. I was assaulted. No, they are not. They are men. I was assaulted by women.

[Joe Getty]

That is the. The nice lady from the Gold's Gym in LA who went to a meeting being held by Scott Wiener, one of the most perverse, crazed communists in American politics. He's a assemblyman from San Francisco who will be running for Nancy Pelosi's seat in the House of Representatives. And he is. He's lgbtq just to death, Sex with children, pro prostitution, human trafficking. He's truly sick. But he held a town hall. Trish Hyman went to it and was trying to plead for safety for women in women's spaces. And somebody else. Trans women are women. And she says, no, they're not. They're men. And got the booze. Boo. How dare you.

[Jack Armstrong]

So she's the one that walked into the locker room and there's a dude in there, right? Well, she was.

[Joe Getty]

Well, no, she was totally undressed and turned around, and there was a dude standing right there.

[Jack Armstrong]

And she complains of Gold's Gym, but at that event anyway, where she was, the people were on the other side.

[Joe Getty]

Well, she got kicked out of Gold's Gym for complaining. So the institutions, especially in Cal Unicornia, are still on completely the wrong side of this. But she is a black lesbian, which is an intersectional nightmare for lefties. But evidently, on the totem pole of grievance, dudes pretending to be women are on top of black lesbians.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who knew?

[Joe Getty]

I need a map or a Chart Black woman.

[Jack Armstrong]

Start there and then you're a lesbian.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

But still. Sorry. Shut up. Right. That. Get that. That person over there with a penis in the locker room while you're naked.

[Joe Getty]

That is but mascara. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

And. And it's.

[Joe Getty]

And more of a woman than you apparently.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or.

[Joe Getty]

Or a woman more in need of womanly protections. Or again, this is why I need a chart. Because I'm not psychotic like that. So I need you to explain to me how your dog is talking to you through the tag in your underpants. Oh you know, great woke left.

[Jack Armstrong]

But we've got more of that audio from that whole get together there. That's something to get booed by people. Say that was a dude boo.

[Joe Getty]

No, it's not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trans.

[Joe Getty]

Trans women. Hot dogs are dogs. Who are you people? Oh, you can buy a hot dogs our dogs t [e-mail] the superstore. Order today. Get it in time for Christmas for your favorite AMG fan. Maybe it's you.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm guessing those people are mostly. I mean it's San Francisco. So mostly childless. You don't have the. You're never gonna confront the idea of your 12 year old daughter in a locker room with a guy with his crank out.

[Joe Getty]

Childless probably. They may have a boy lover in Scott Wieners world as that's part of the mentoring process for gay youth.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't realize he was. So if you're listening other parts of the country you don't know this guy's name. But we've been on the air in San Francisco for two decades. He's a force for crazy and has been for a very long time. But has a fair amount of support as he keeps getting elected over and over. Do you think he's got any shot of actually taking Nancy Pelosi's house seat?

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Wow. If he wins the primary. Although the trend in San Francisco is away from craziness because it did so much terrible damage. So he's not a shoe in. That would be huge name recognition.

[Jack Armstrong]

The whole of. We don't. This is Nancy Pelosi's America that they used to try to hang around her neck. San Francisco.

[Joe Getty]

She's Ronald freaking Reagan compared to Scott Wiener.

[Jack Armstrong]

Absolutely. Absolutely. That is wild. Okay, so we got a lot of stuff on the way as we have pointed out. And then we'll argue about when Easter starts. Katie's headlines are on the way. Stay right here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

I really want to talk. Sound like an old man later and talk about the decay of American Culture over the last half century or more. Something I came across yesterday that had me thinking, want to discuss that with everyone?

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of things come across yesterday, you have got to reset the statistics from University. San Diego, was it? Or San Diego State. Trust me, UC San Diego. If you, if you did not hear this, what you hear will shock you. Stay with us if you dare. Okay, that was too much. Katie Green. What's. Who's reporting what? It's the lead story. What's happening?

[Katie Green]

Just seeing if Jack's got a joke. No, still failing us.

[Joe Getty]

Letting the people down again.

[Katie Green]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right.

[Katie Green]

I'm going to harass you until you.

[Michael]

Come back with them.

[Katie Green]

Starting with abc. House Democrats release new Epstein emails referencing Trump again.

[Jack Armstrong]

So in case you didn't hear me say this yesterday, I tuned on MSNBC night before last when it, you know, the whole the government's going to reopen again story had broken and all the.

[Joe Getty]

Democrats who are so angry about the shutdown are angry it's going to end. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Most of the conversation was about how the Epstein files will now come out. Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. It was all about Epstein and how the government shutdown was really a ploy by the Republicans Mike Johnson led to keep the Epstein files out of the noose, which I think is absolutely 100% nuts.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. I take in left and left center media. I had totally missed that. That that's such a narrative on the hardcore left.

[Jack Armstrong]

Morning Joe brought it up this morning on msnbc. Wow. What?

[Katie Green]

From the Washington Post. Venezuela orders massive mobilization as US Aircraft carrier approaches.

[Jack Armstrong]

God dang it. I hope this doesn't come to to some sort of battle where we lose men.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I was reminded there was a little compare and contrast between this situation and Panama back in the day when Manuel Noriega had to go, remember old pineapple head? And I was reminded that we lost a couple of dozen service personnel in that completely one sided route. So yeah, let's proceed carefully from the free beacon.

[Katie Green]

CAIR teased, quote, major expansion to its political operations after October 7th. Two years later, its network is taking credit for Mandani's win.

[Joe Getty]

Cair, the Council on American Islamic Relations, which is absolutely connected to other people who are connected to terrorism. Without a doubt, they are closeted Islamists.

[Katie Green]

From Bloomberg, Trump plans to move.

[Jack Armstrong]

Take two.

[Katie Green]

Bloomberg Trump plans move to ease prices on coffee and bananas, says Besant.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep, coffee, bananas. Trump has figured out the whole affordability thing for the average person is the big topic. So he's talking about lowering prices for bananas and coffee and also brought out that Idea the other day of a 50 year mortgage so more people can buy houses.

[Joe Getty]

That's a bad idea. Although I do relax. Love relaxing on a Saturday morning with my cup of joe and my banana. It's just heaven.

[Katie Green]

From News Nation. Maine health system mistakenly sends death notices to 500 living patients.

[Joe Getty]

I don't feel dead.

[Jack Armstrong]

That'd be a heck of a thing to get in the mail.

[Katie Green]

Right? From the New York Post influencer known for taunting cops by begging them to quote, arrest me. Daddy is finally arrested.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good. This one from.

[Katie Green]

Study finds seagulls can tell if you're really mad and they react differently.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy. Aren't you proud? You went to college and studied that.

[Joe Getty]

Did you say seagulls?

[Jack Armstrong]

I did. Seagulls.

[Joe Getty]

Seagulls.

[Jack Armstrong]

Angry seagulls.

[Joe Getty]

Seagulls. Sounds like a Jewish person. Seagulls is the bird you're talking about, right? Or do you say seagulls? Seagulls.

[Katie Green]

Is that seagulls?

[Joe Getty]

Seagulls.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Saying peanut, which sounds too much like penis.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. Peanut.

[Joe Getty]

Seagull.

[Katie Green]

All right, all right. From the Babylon Bee. Latest Tucker guest bigfoot reveals how mind controlling chemtrails are sprayed all over the flat earth by the Jews.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's pretty funny.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Tucker had a guest on the other day saying the whole chemtrails thing, contrails, depending on what you call it, they're coming out of planes is real and the government's been hiding it forever, so.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my Lord, he's lost his mind. Well, no, he's figured out how to profit off of poor unfortunate people. More on that to come.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, and we got more from the whole Gold's gym trans changing room thing too. So stay tuned for that Armstrong and Getty. Are you going to tell me that we of all people have breaking Epstein news? We of all people.

[Joe Getty]

I know, I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

What is it?

[Joe Getty]

I don't even know who I am anymore. Before I get to that, Excuse me. Let me turn my computer back on.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I've got this, I've got a.

[Joe Getty]

Couple of screens, but this, this one I. This company supplied and I swapped it out, blah, blah, blah. And I noticed it was on like six hours after I'd used it. And I'm like, oh, that's. I don't need that. So I'll. I'll just set it to turn off after like an hour or something like that. And I swear to God, once you open that door, the computer companies probably in league with the. With either the government or Satan or something. Or the builder grouper. I don't Know what Nick Fuentes would say? The Jews, I don't believe that. Once you open that door, they start turning it off after five minutes. And you go back in your settings and you say, no, not five minutes, an hour. And they're like, yeah, I think five minutes would be better. And it's. It is ignoring my wishes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, geez.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway. All right, breaking Epstein news. Believe it or not. This is from the Hill. Emails released by Democrats show deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein told associates that, quote, of course President Trump knew about his relationship with underage girls. Three emails released today by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee showed Epstein's correspondence with his associate and fellow child rapey buddy Ghislaine Maxwell, as well as columnist and author Michael Wolf. In the short exchanges, Epstein said, Trump, quote, spent hours at my house, while another said the President knew about the girls. Now, these, these are short clips, these are short quotes. Where is the context? Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would think if you had a quote that says specifically Trump knew about underage girls being there having sex with adult male, you would include that quote. You did. They didn't.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Here's a name about the girls.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Here's a 2011 email to Maxwell. I want you to realize, and that I think that was after his first bust and maybe that unholy plea deal. He said, I want you to realize that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump. The victim spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned. Police chief, etc. I'm 75% there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, so what's. Where did these emails come from? The confusing part being, to me, that if you had this sort of dirt on Trump for four years while Joe Biden was president and gonna run against him again, why, why didn't this stuff come out then?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the source is.

[Jack Armstrong]

They just become aware of him recently.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. And they were at odds, Trump and Epstein. Here's one about, I think he should let him hang. Epstein wrote to Wolf. If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the House, then that gives you valuable PR and political currency. You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or if it really looks like he could win, you could save him generating a debt. Oh, that's Wolf writing to Epstein.

[Jack Armstrong]

I gotta tell you, I'm so out of the loop on the Epstein thing. I thought that story was as dead as Jeffrey himself. Yeah, I thought that. I thought Hillary Clinton had snuck into the cell and wrapped A bed sheet around the story and it was no long breathing.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. No longer kicking. I think I follow your difficult metaphor.

[Jack Armstrong]

There, but as I said, that was the main topic on MSNBC the day they announced the shutdown was going to end. Okay, finally, now we can have the Epstein vote. And now you got this information from the Hill. So the freaking Epstein story is far from over. Of course, though you had to report a couple of days ago that we didn't really talk about even more Kush treatment for old G Dog than we realized since she got moved from the real prison to the kind of, you know, like, it's like being at community college prison and, and, and she, and she gets fed well and treated well and everything like that.

[Joe Getty]

And why did that happen? Yeah, that, that has absolutely appear. Absolutely. The appearance of impropriety.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, yes, it does.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it stinks.

[Jack Armstrong]

God dang it. Did we, did the world need this? Did America need this?

[Joe Getty]

I guess we'll wait and see. I've long, long, long, like 2014 long pointed out that Trump has trouble keeping himself on the rails, never mind the people who attack him. Anyway, we'll see. That's sort of into it.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's sort of. He knew about the girls, though. I remember back in the. When I was younger and I was running around, I knew people that lived much wilder lifestyles than I did. And like, we would, we'd end up going out where? Someplace or whatever. Go to their house, it's after party or whatever. And I would realize, okay, their lifestyle is wilder than I'm wanting to be adjacent to. So I never hung out with them anymore. But I didn't actually know what was going on. I just knew, okay, they're living a wild life with, you know, intoxicants and a crowd that I don't want to be part of. And I stayed away from it. Doesn't mean I knew what was going on there. I just didn't want to be involved. Well, yeah, I mean, I can easily. That that was Trump situation. Okay. He's got. Those girls are awful young and. Okay, I'm not hanging out there anymore. Yeah, he.

[Joe Getty]

He knows about the girls. Yeah, well, he don't. He does know about the girls, but I guess we'll wait and see. Anyway, speaking of women in general, that's not much of a transition, but what are you gonna do? So Tish Hyman, who is the black gal you may have seen in the video from Gold's Gym in Los Angeles, pissed off that there's a full grown man in there when she's completely naked. And of course it was a man pretending to be a woman. And not very well a so called trans woman, according to the far, far radical left.

[Jack Armstrong]

And was the dude a lot of.

[Joe Getty]

People into saying the same thing?

[Jack Armstrong]

Was the dude naked? She saw his parts or no. Katie saying no. Okay, no, but he was gone.

[Joe Getty]

But anyway, obviously, but. So she's become an activist in defending women's private spaces. And that includes locker rooms and bathrooms and prisons significantly. But I won't get off on that tangent. And she appeared to her credit at a town hall being held by radical gender extremist Scott Wiener in San Francisco. He is a longtime assemblyman in California, has dragged California way, way left. If your child is being indoctrinated in schools about radical gender theory, you have Scott Wiener to thank for it. Anyway, he's running for Nancy Pelosi's house seat or will be. And he had a town hall and Tish was there. We'll just start with the 70. Michael, see how it went.

[Tish Hyman]

As a lesbian woman who was attacked in the woman's locker room at Gold's Gym this week by a self identifying trans woman with a documented history of domestic violence, I'm deeply concerned about women's safety in female only spaces. What would you say to women who are seeking assurance that their safety will be protected from men who by California law can self ID as women faces? Sir, please tell me.

[Scott Wiener]

Yeah, so we want, I mean everyone to be safe. And we also know that, you know, we have trans, trans people, both men and women, who are men and women. And so, you know, we. So if you're a trans women or women.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. He is well, well versed in radical gender theory. But you present him with a very simple question like that and you can groping for anything other than the doctrine he's been taught to communicate to real people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now I'm on her side and I think she's 100. Right, but did she portray being looked at as attacked?

[Joe Getty]

Oh no. It was when she said, oh my God, you're a man, you've got to get out of here. He went crazy and started yelling at her.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, she means that. Okay, right, right.

[Joe Getty]

Next clip.

[Tish Hyman]

We want to know, are you going to protect women? Not trans women, women, women. Trans women are different than women. Women. Listen, we need to safety. I was assaulted. No, they are not. They are men. I was assaulted by women. He broke his wife's jaw. So Brad, she needed reconstructive surgery. I'm a lesbian, I'm not transphobic. And I'm black, so if there's another black woman in here who wants to tell me how they feel, please join in. But all of you are not. And I don't know who you are, what you are, but I'm a lesbian, and I'm telling you right now, men are harassing women in the locker room.

[Joe Getty]

Let's let him answer the question.

[Jack Armstrong]

This ranking of who's the most, you know, precious commodity in terms of. It's so interesting. Wait a second. I'm a black lesbian woman. All three of those things should add up to, you're on my side, but for some reason, you're on the trans side.

[Joe Getty]

What?

[Jack Armstrong]

Skibs here is kind of what she's saying.

[Katie Green]

And I love how the one that went trans women are women was clearly a man.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah? Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

What is it with you people?

[Katie Green]

This is nuts.

[Joe Getty]

Hot dogs are dogs. Oh, yeah, that's her. Playing the black and lesbian card was kind of funny as left eats itself.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's probably worked for her her whole life on everything.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Right. Wow. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Until you ran up against the trans crowd. You could trump anything with, I'm a black gay woman.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the bus didn't pick me up just because I'm a black gay woman or whatever the situation is. And. But this time it didn't work because you're up against the trans crowd. And for some reason, in some people's eyes, that trumps everything.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Play 71 again, Michael. There was a lot there.

[Tish Hyman]

And we want to know, are you going to protect women? Not trans women, women, women. Trans women are different things. Women, Women. Listen, we need to protect women's safety. I was assaulted. No, they are not. They are men. I was assaulted by men.

[Jack Armstrong]

He had.

[Tish Hyman]

He broke his wife's jaw. So Brad, she needed reconstructed surgery. I'm a lesbian. I'm not transphobic, and I'm black. So if there's another black woman in here who wants to tell me how they feel, please join in. But all of you are not. And I don't know who you are, what you are, but I'm a lesbian, and I'm telling you right now, men are harassing women in the locker room.

[Joe Getty]

We're progressive men. That's who we are.

[Jack Armstrong]

So she's kind of going with, if you're not a black lesbian woman, you have no right to tell me how I feel about the trans thing.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Yeah. Her lived experience, my truth, that whole thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

So it's.

[Joe Getty]

This is a fist fight between leftists, which is interesting to watch. I happen to agree with her. Oh, and the one I knew I There was one more thing I wanted to unpack there. These people are quite literally and specifically defending the right of a man who beat his wife unconscious and smashed her face. That man to be in a woman's locker room with naked women. That's how perverse their ideology is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is there possible invention of something that would rank for the crazies? Because I think as we've talked about, I think the bloom is off the rose for the whole trans thing and the pendulum has started to swing back quite a bit. But for the crazy crowd, is there anything that could rank above the trans crown that in the future will say.

[Joe Getty]

Look, trans immigrants, trans immigrant sex workers. Trans immigrant lesbian sex workers. Furry, furry trans immigrant immigrants. Sex workers who are blind handicap.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

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[Joe Getty]

Michael. We barely have any time, but let's do it. 72.

[Scott Wiener]

I appreciate your point of view. I'm so sorry that you were multiple times. I appreciate you talking about it. I think we need to protect the safety of all women and that's incredibly important. And I also know that trans women are also brutalized in this country. So women and cisgender women are brutalized in this country. And we have the safety, all of them.

[Tish Hyman]

We cannot be raped in the bathrooms by men that want to save their women. They're not women. They're not women. I'm leaving. It's okay. But I'm not going to take it. I am leaving because you know what? You guys are not protecting women. You're doing a lot. The bills that you're passing for the law, I read a lot of them. They're great.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Tish Hyman]

But this things with the trans, it's not right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank you very much.

[Joe Getty]

So the key phrase in there is Scott Wiener says we need to protect women. I'm sorry, we need to protect women and CIS women. So trans women are just women. You gals who are born with ovaries, etc, you're well CIS women. You need a qualified account of count. Yeah, yeah. You get the qualifier gals keep voting left.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. We got more on that mailbag on the way. Steer Armstrong and Getty kicking off our two this study about UC San Diego, prestigious university in a major college system where the kids coming in can't do math. I mean they really, really can't do math. Can't do like third grade math. We'll get into that in hour two.

[Joe Getty]

Great Scott. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. Continuing our series from John Stuart Mill's brilliant book on liberty. The truth of an opinion is part of its utility. If the opinion is compelled to silence, it may be, and often is, that the opinion is true, but it is not the whole truth. Very few facts are able to tell their whole story without the aid of connecting truths. And it is only by the collision of adverse opinions that the remainder of the truth has any chance of being supplied.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy. Put that in normal words.

[Joe Getty]

Even if something's true, you don't know how true it is or why it's so true or really understand it until it gets out in the marketplace of ideas. And you can see it from 360 degrees.

[Jack Armstrong]

Man, that hurts. If you're talking like politics, that kind of gets into the. If you're explaining your losing situation where it a you know, a truth is takes a little look, you know, context to really understand it. That that does. Context does not fit on a slogan or a yard sign.

[Joe Getty]

Right. That that sentence when you're explaining you're losing is both true and obscene.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. In politics it's really.

[Joe Getty]

Mailbag, drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com Michael writes, It is Christmas season. I agree with Michelangelo, but after your screed you should really Play the Nate Bargain Nazi Christmas special intro on the subject. Oh, we'll look for that. I love Nate.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's. Here's the breakdown. I just figured out Michael and his crowd believe in overlaps. Most of us don't believe in an overlap. One has to end before the other begins.

[Joe Getty]

Correct.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you must be overlapping Christmas and Thanksgiving, obviously.

[Joe Getty]

Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Because you don't think Thanksgiving's over. And I think it's up to use the word obscene again. Obscene to overlap two holidays.

[Joe Getty]

So in Michael's world and. And Michael's. And Tim agrees with them, Santa just stomps the turkey to death with his sooty boots. It's the way I see it.

[Michael]

That's about right.

[Joe Getty]

Please don't be anti Christmas dudes. And dudette writes Tim. When I was younger, it used to really bother me. Now it makes. If it makes people happy, let it go. There are other things to get worked up about. They are sick. You're a sick pervert. Let's see. How about this? I'm sorry. That was probably a little out of proportion. Gary writes, guys, Jack especially has been wondering about the air traffic controller folks retiring in the relationship to the shutdown. I think they're generally unrelated. Well, sort of. Here's an explanation. I had a very good friend who works at a different agency. He's at the top of the pay scale, eligible for full retirement. A couple of years ago, he was going to double dip, collect a pension while working in the private sector, a common strategy for government employees. He informed his supervisor of his impending retirement. He had specialized skills, would be difficult to replace at the top of the pay scale, so he couldn't be given a raise. Instead, he was offered a 20% annual retention bonus to entice him to stay a few more years. So he stayed. But with the result of this madness, people are saying, all right, that's it, I'm done. Because they're kind of on overtime retirement overtime because they're skilled and needed. And I'll bet there are a lot of folks like that in air traffic control too. Let's see. How much time do we have, Michael? Less than a minute.

[Michael]

30 seconds.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, man. Jeff with a great theory on young women and their voting patterns and mom, Donnie. Maybe we'll get to that a little bit later on. Plus a bunch of reaction to our conversation about Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson and the email from Christian that we discussed yesterday. We'll get to that later too.

[Jack Armstrong]

If kids going into major universities can't do grade school math, what hope is there? For people who aren't even college bound. We'll look into this an hour too. Shocking statistics.

[Joe Getty]

And in a related story, Randy Weingarten, the evil, evil head of the teachers union with an horrible cesspool of a new book out. We'll review it for you. Armstrong and Gettysburg.

[Jack Armstrong]

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