Let's Get Certified!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand — "Let's Get Certified!"

Release Date: June 17, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

Episode Overview

In this episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty focus on new policies around identity-based business certifications in California, the persistence and societal ramifications of conspiracy theories, culture war topics such as DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) legislation, and a smattering of lighter content including robot toilets and humorous cultural observations. The episode’s recurring theme is about official "certification"—for sexual orientation, identity, and even missing-person alert systems—raising questions about bureaucracy, fairness, and the unintended consequences of social engineering.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Foiled Attack Plot and Conspiracy Theories

Timestamps: 03:32–16:34

• Discussion of Recent Foiled Attack:

  • The hosts discuss a thwarted plot involving drones and a sniper team targeting the UFC Freedom 250 event and possibly the White House.
  • They praise the vigilance of a perpetrator’s mother who alerted authorities about her son’s troubling behaviour and conspiracy-laden worldview.
  • Quote:
    • "Good on mom for calling the cops on her own kid." (Armstrong, 05:09)
    • "That had to be a difficult thing to do." (Joe Getty, 05:20)

• Secret Service vs. FBI:

  • Secret Service was frustrated that the FBI publicized the case prematurely, potentially harming the ongoing investigation and reducing the chances of catching all conspirators.
  • Quote:
    • "Just because we're done with Freedom 250 or that particular event doesn't mean we're going to stop." (Matt Quinn, 06:20)
    • "Totally sophomoric move by the FBI." (Armstrong, 07:09)

• The Psychology of Conspiracies:

  • Armstrong and Getty examine why so many people, including teenagers, believe in outlandish QAnon and Epstein conspiracies—suggesting it’s about the need to explain a scary, chaotic world via scapegoating.
  • They relate conspiracy theory psychology to historic witch hunts and scapegoating, arguing it fulfills a spiritual or psychological void.
  • Quotes:
    • "The witch trials themselves whipped up enthusiasm for witch trials." (Joe Getty, 13:28)
    • "Nature abhors an emotional vacuum. Also, something has to be a spiritual vacuum." (Armstrong, 16:28)

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2. Identity, Certification, and DEI Bureaucracy

Timestamps: 28:57–40:16; 43:34–47:44

• California’s ‘Gay Certification’ Program:

  • California is pressuring public utilities to give $633 million in contracts to LGBT-owned firms, but requires "certification" to prove business owners’ orientation or identity. Falsely claiming this status can carry up to a year in jail.
  • They poke fun at the bureaucratic hoops required for certification, suggesting the process is ripe for abuse or absurdity.
  • Quotes:
    • "To qualify, you’ve got to go through the state’s official gay certification program, and you face up to a year in jail if you’re not gay enough." (Joe Getty, 29:53)
    • "Do I get certified the first time I do it or... do I have to go back and get recertified?" (Armstrong, 31:20)
    • "What if I swore up and down that I'm a closeted gay man... What are they going to do, discriminate against me?" (Joe Getty, 47:16)

• Disparate Impact and Identity-Based Policies:

  • Discussion of the Justice Department’s move to label ‘disparate impact’ standards (assuming discrimination purely from statistical outcomes) as unconstitutional.
  • They illustrate how policies relying on identity can drift to illogical extremes, using Canada’s openly race- and gender-segregated job postings and California’s racially specific missing person alerts as examples.

• California’s Segregated Alert System:

  • Ebony Alert for missing Black individuals, Feather Alert for Indigenous individuals, etc.—all critiqued as well-intentioned but fundamentally racist.
  • Quotes:
    • "Apparently California has a racially segregated missing person alert system." (Joe Getty, 33:15)
    • "Why are those two things separated? Black women are Black persons." (Armstrong, 36:29)

• Culture War on Race and Ethnicity:

  • Armstrong notes the contradiction in public discourse: It’s permissible to praise groups for positive attributes, but socially forbidden to mention any group disadvantage, except where it serves the narrative of discrimination.
  • Quotes:
    • "You can say Asians are better at science and math. You can't say Asians are bad drivers... as an example." (Armstrong, 38:37)
    • "I can't even believe the words came out of your mouth." (Joe Getty, 38:51)

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3. Satire, Absurdity & Social Commentary

Timestamps: 27:07–28:53; 46:43–47:44

• Mobile Robot Toilets:

  • The hosts riff on a pitch for the ‘Xiaobon Intelligent Toilet Robot,’ a self-cleaning, mobile toilet for the elderly. They quickly veer into jokes about laziness, use at sporting events, and dystopian dinner-table scenarios.
  • Notable Moment:
    • "So you're sitting there eating dinner and your family has to watch you do this?" (Armstrong, 27:26)
    • "They don't have to, they can avert their eyes." (Joe Getty, 27:32)
    • "This is a great time to be alive." (Joe Getty, 27:52)

• Final Thoughts:

  • Michelangelo (control room): Suggests robot toilets would revolutionize stadium restrooms.
  • Armstrong and Getty make tongue-in-cheek comments on the expanding bureaucracy of "certification," the performative aspects of identity politics, and the increasingly surreal side effects of social engineering.

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4. Critique of Modern Anti-Semitism Initiatives

Timestamps: 11:59–16:34

• Joe Getty discusses a New York Post editorial on antisemitism, suggesting attempts to "combat antisemitism" are misguided because antisemitism is an age-old symptom of deeper cultural malaise—namely a spiritual vacuum and lack of shared American virtues.
• The solution proposed is not more task forces, but a reevaluation and reinforcement of shared values through education and cultural start-ups.
• Quote:
  • "We must resist this temptation at all costs and by any means necessary. We can set up a federal task force to make sure our shared values… are taught vigorously at every level of education." (Joe Getty, 14:56)

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5. Criticism of Identity Scoring in Homeless Aid

Timestamps: 39:02–40:16

• The hosts highlight a Portland program that prioritized emergency housing based on intersectional identity "scores," giving advantage to those with more marginalized statuses. They mock the notion that "lived experience" can override hard data showing poor outcomes.
• Quote:
  • "Race-based housing programs and outcomes for homeless minorities got worse. They dismissed the data... arguing lived experience mattered as much as measurable outcomes." (Joe Getty, 39:02)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Conspiracy Theories:
  • "The fact that your reaction could be anything but just immediate dismissal of, wow, that person's really crazy… I can't wrap my head around it." – Armstrong (11:35)
• On Bureaucracy:
  • "Applicants can secure gay certification by providing a letter from an LGBT organization attesting to their sexual preferences." – Joe Getty (31:20)
• On Alert Systems:
  • "Apparently California has a racially segregated missing person alert system." – Joe Getty (33:15)
• On culture:
  • "It seems like everything I do, some Asian kid comes along and shows me up." – Armstrong (37:42)

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Section Timestamps (For Quick Reference)

• [03:32] Major foiled attack plot, conspiracy themes
• [13:27] Scapegoating, psychological/social commentary
• [16:28] Addressing antisemitism and its roots
• [28:57] DEI, identity certification, economic policy
• [33:15] California's racially segregated Amber Alert system
• [37:14] Cultural stereotypes/humorous anecdotes
• [39:02] Intersectionality scoring in housing policy
• [43:34] Final segment: certification satire

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Tone and Takeaways

The show’s tone is sardonic, irreverent, and sharply skeptical, with the hosts bringing humor and skepticism to bureaucracy, identity politics, and conspiracy culture alike. Their underlying message questions whether modern solutions to social problems have gone off the rails and whether a focus on shared values and individual character should replace bureaucracy-heavy "certification" regimes.

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[News Reporter]

Investigators tell Fox the plan was to use drones with explosives to hit buildings near the UFC Freedom 250 event which would force a mass evacuation and steer crowds toward a pre staged sniper team. A quote second wave was allegedly planning to storm the White House gate. Those accused of being involved in the alleged plot arrested in Ohio, Nebraska, Missouri and California. California.

[Matt Quinn]

It was unique due to the numbers involved, the level of planning involved.

[Armstrong]

We talked about this a lot yesterday when the news first broke. I've seen it dismissed by a lot of people. Washington D.C. has technology in place where drones cannot. All these different reasons that it couldn't have happened. Yeah, there are supposedly all kinds of things in place that would make it impossible for a kid to just walk onto a fairgrounds with a rifle, climb up a ladder in front of everybody and very, very come very close to blowing the President's head off. But he did it anyway. So yeah, I'm not sure I'm feel like that this plot had no chance just because of the various safeguards you're mentioning. Anyway, David Spunt goes on in Ohio.

[News Reporter]

Investigators say 19 year old Tyson Proper's mother called police after she was concerned about her son's recent conduct, including firearms purchases and his communic with people online. Investigators are looking at 23 people in chats online. Proper's father told police his son quit his job recently, quote, in preparation to meet the individuals he had been interacting with online to conduct missions and recons.

[Armstrong]

Good on mom for calling the cops on her own kid.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. His behavior was extremely troubling. Good for her.

[Listener/Caller]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That had to be a difficult thing to do.

[Armstrong]

Do you have a sense of how close they got to being able to pull this off? I mean did they actually purchase the drones? Did they have any explosives?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know that. I know they had ample firearms and body armor, that sort of thing. You know, that's a Great question. Another question might be how close did they come to unleashing some sort of death and mayhem, even if their big plot didn't come true because they absolutely had the intent and did the preparation to kill lots of people.

[Armstrong]

So the Secret Service was not happy that the FBI came out and announced this yesterday.

[Joe Getty]

Highly unhappy.

[Matt Quinn]

I'll tell you a phrase I learned early in my career in the New York field office and that's don't choke on your own smoke. Anyone that believes that case was worked in a bubble is naive.

[Armstrong]

That's Matt Quinn, deputy director of the Secret Service. He goes on, I'll tell you, the

[Matt Quinn]

Secret Service led that investigation from the beginning. I'll tell you that it's ongoing. In order to maintain the integrity of the investigation and the security plan, we chose not to leak it. They were planning to attack the Freedom 250. Some of what you read this morning is accurate. I'm not going to get into too many details because like I said, this is still an active, ongoing investigation. Just because we're done with Freedom 250 or that particular event doesn't mean we're going to stop. There are still suspects at large and we're going to work it until everyone's been identified.

[Armstrong]

So he's saying the Secret Service was the lead on this whole investigation and they were from the beginning and they were going to keep their mouths shut. And then why did Cash Patel go out and make all this noise yesterday? And a friend of the Armstrong and Getty show who's very close to these sorts of organizations said with the release of that sealed indictment, the chance of identifying co conspirators decreases. None of those indicted, arrested guys will work for the government now. Totally sophomoric move by the FBI. I don't, you know, I don't know anything about this, but it's hard to imagine what the upside was of coming out early on this, letting us know what happened.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's interesting because I just before that came out, I was just reading that the White House is at a bit of a fever pitch over the question of leaks, specifically leaks of what happened during carefully classified meetings, you know, in the Situation Room and that sort of thing. And there's a fair amount of that in the new book that's come out by Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan in which, you know, people are quoted directly, what the seating arrangements were, who was on the speakerphone. I mean, clearly they have sources from inside that room. And here's a perhaps completely inappropriate self aggrandizing Leak from Cash Patel. I gotta believe he's getting the. Getting the. The fisheye.

[Matt Quinn]

What do they call it?

[Joe Getty]

The stink eye from Trump. Yeah, if. If he mysteriously decides to resign in future days. That's what's going on.

[Armstrong]

So mom had heard her son, who lived in the basement, talking to his friends and told law enforcement that the group was angry about the handling of the Epstein files and the false belief that data centers were using up all the water in the communities. Yeah, that group also planned to target politicians who took money from aipac, the Israeli lobby. And then the guy in California that got arrested said that we have politicians eating babies, raping and eating babies, and I can't stand for that. So he believes that Epstein QAnon thing.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Armstrong]

I brought that up to my kids yesterday, and my older son said that he knows lots of people in his high school that believe that stuff, or at least pretend to believe that stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I've been shocked at some people I've run into lately who get hooked by the whole conspiracy theory thing. They're like, yeah, yeah, this. This is not what meets the eye. But they have none of the facts. They've just been led down the garden path by people who are really good at that sort of thing. How big is that underclass, Underclass class of people who suck up all of the QAnon Tucker canvas stuff at this point.

[Armstrong]

So I went through the whole story with my kids because they hadn't heard it on the whole QAnon. So it was a guy who is now since outed himself, who was jerking people around online, claiming he had all this secret information. He has come out and said it himself. There's a documentary on Netflix or wherever from several years ago. He came out and said, I did it to jerk people around. I thought it was hilarious. He has said that. Yet the crap he made up, people continue to believe, even when the guy who started it says, yeah, I was just jerking you around.

[Joe Getty]

I can't believe anybody fell for it.

[News Reporter]

No.

[Joe Getty]

Total false flag. That was not the real QAnon. That was a guy claiming to be. To discredit it. But we've seen behind. We've seen beyond that. That's a. We were not duped by that because we're the group that's in the know and really understands what's going on.

[Armstrong]

But there are conspiracies, and there are conspiracies. I mean, some of them, like, a lot of them, I don't believe. But I, you know, I can see how maybe there's some truth how is your immediate reaction not. No blanking way when you hear, we read the Epstein. Epstein files carry such weight, like it means something. No, it's a piece of paper. A crazy person called some cop or FBI or whoever claimed they were on a yacht where they saw George Bush rape a baby, then cut the baby into pieces, cut the baby open, and then eat the poo out of the baby's intestines. Now, how is your reaction to that not.

[Joe Getty]

Please, you're saying that did not or did happen.

[Armstrong]

The fact that your reaction could be anything but just immediate dismissal of, wow, that person's really crazy. You could go with, well, I suppose a whole bunch of people saw that and have kept it secret because, you know, people keep secrets like that all the time.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's just. I don't even know, I can't wrap

[Armstrong]

my head around it, that there would be 10 people in the country that would believe that could be true.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I came across a really great editorial in the New York Post about anti Semitism and how it's about much, much more than just publicly hating Jews. It's this strain, strand of moral and intellectual rot that completely consumes its host culture. And it's. It's actually really interesting and insightful, and it sent me on a bit of a research rabbit hole about the nature of cultural scapegoating. And there have been, you know, many examples throughout history. The Jews are the most popular target. But the psychological common ground it shares with, like the witch hunts, where you live in a confusing, threatening world, and if somebody can reduce the randomness and threat of it to something explainable that you can fight against, it doesn't matter how ridiculous and implausible the singling out of the scapegoat is. People of a certain mindset go to it and they need it, and they're. They're incredibly enthusiastic about it. And, and the interesting part about it is that the further it goes, persecution intensifies, rather than the persecution intensifies the feeling. It's not responding to evidence that intensifies the. The feelings.

[Armstrong]

It's the.

[Joe Getty]

The witch trials themselves whipped up enthusiasm for witch trials. And people felt like, yeah, they're doing it over there. It must be legitimate. And so we're going to do it too. And by God, that's the solution. Even though they've never seen the evidence of its truth. And, you know, I don't know what to do about that. I have a feeling the people who desperately need to hear that will not hear it, you know, from us. I'm not sure they'll hear it from anybody because they self, you know, they self select what inputs they take online. Almost entirely online.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. Well, what stood out to me in the conversation with my kids was my son saying, yeah, lots of high schoolers in his school believe that stuff. So they heard that from their parents or. I don't know. I really don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, or online. Young men in particular really get sucked into these online communities that promise them that you will really know what's going on and really understand what's happening because we're not going to let those bastards lie to you. That's an appealing itch.

[Armstrong]

And so the whole Epstein thing is the Israel controlled Epstein, he was an asset of. Of Israel, worked for the Mossad and he was running the child pedo ring in the United States. And it goes back to Jews drink the blood of babies, something or other.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, actually the, the learned editorial I was talking about, this guy's conclusion is, and I found this super intriguing, the answer is simple. Stop this quote unquote, combating antisemitism. An effort to which everyone from the federal government to the organized American Jewish community is currently pouring tremendous resources these days. It's an enormous waste of time and money because antisemitism, the world's oldest hatred, isn't something we're going to solve anytime soon. I thought, wow, wait, what? Instead we should treat antisemitism as what it is, a symptom for a much larger problem that isn't political but spiritual. The problem of no longer knowing what it is we believe in, defining and defending our core common American virtues is hard. Hissing that all of our problems are due to the nefarious interference of a shadow minority is much easier. We must resist this temptation at all costs and by any means necessary. We can set up a federal task force to make sure our shared values, liberty and dignity, to name but a few, are taught vigorously at every level of education. Then he talks about, I don't know, reinstate the draft, mandatory public service, give them young Americans a deep and real school, universal community school. Invest mightily in cultural startups dedicated not to tearing down America's past like all of our educational institutions, but in propping up its future and teaching the kids about how great this country is. You don't. It's one of those things, you fill the vacuum with something positive. Don't fake focus on the negative emotion, focus on what's missing. I thought that was really interesting and insightful.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, it is. So nature abhors an emotional vacuum. Also, something has to be a spiritual vacuum.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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What was Mike Pompeo in the Trump administration? He was the.

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See, the national security advisor. That's close.

[Armstrong]

Anyway, he's this statement from him. So this is piggybacking on Vance and Trump both talking about, look, the people we're dealing with now, they don't even want a nuclear weapon anymore. They're good guys. You can trust them. Mike Pompeo, former Trump administration official, director to the CIA. That's right. He was CIA director.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Armstrong]

He said a deal with Iran must recognize that this regime has no desire to be a responsible member of the community of nations. They do not regret the last 47 years, nor think it was a mistake to kill Americans. They are radical Islamists. Any funds available to the regime, whether paid to them directly, provided by sanctions relief or via releasing escrowed funds, will go straight toward rebuilding the IRGC military capabilities and its terrorist proxies. When your enemy is at your weakest, you need to win.

[Joe Getty]

He was also Trump's Secretary of State.

[Armstrong]

I've forgotten he was Secretary of State.

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Yeah.

[Armstrong]

So he's dealt with these people before. And he is stating that the vice president's claim that. Look, they've decided we should play that clip from you. It's from yesterday's sheet, but because he doesn't kind of laugh, you go, look, they're looking at it now and thinking, what were we thinking? Trying to get a nuclear weapon all that years that hasn't done us any good. So now we're all on the same page here. So that's fantastic.

[Joe Getty]

Just ridiculous. Yesterday's 56. Michael, can you grab that? Perhaps

[Armstrong]

he's standing. You're standing perfectly still. Did you hear? Okay.

[Iranian Official]

For 47 years, this country has been a thorn in our side. It's been kind of a basket case for Democrat and Republican administrations. The coolest thing about the progress we've made over the last few weeks is that you see people within the Iranian system, senior leadership, even IRGC officials, say, you know what, we may have some animosity, we may have some mistrust, but we recognize the way that we've done business with the United States for 47 years is a mistake. Let's try something else. We're going to verify that, of course, but we're certainly, certainly willing to try something else if they comply.

[Armstrong]

The coolest thing we've seen is they've decided that 47 years are hating us and death to America and everything is it doesn't work for us.

[Joe Getty]

So, boy, you know, old Pavlovi, the crown prince, the son of the shah, he's out with just a withering statement, too. I'm looking and I'm looking for, hey, this will probably work out. This looks good because I can't find it anywhere.

[Armstrong]

Does JD Believe that Mark Levin is

[Joe Getty]

murdering Trump on this?

[Armstrong]

Yeah. Does J.D. vance believe that these tigers have changed their stripes?

[Joe Getty]

I just think he's the sitting vice president. He works for the president.

[Armstrong]

He's spinning best he can.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Although, you know, under our system, he's elected independently.

[Armstrong]

But Trump's up there speaking right now, and I don't know, maybe I'm misreading it, but Marco Rubio over his shoulder looks miserable to me.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe you got some bad food over there and where are they?

[Armstrong]

Marco has to be miserable, doesn't he? No way. He believes these guys have changed and aren't going to try to get a nuclear weapon.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, he's near despair. Practically guaranteed.

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[Child 1]

mom, can I have Lingokids? Zach Lingokids, please.

[Child 2]

When did we become the Lingokids House?

[Georgia Hardstark]

No idea.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Last week it was dinosaurs.

[Child 1]

The this weekend's Lingokids.

[Child 2]

Why Lingokids?

[Child 1]

Because it's the best thing ever. We can play games with astronauts, wild animals and superheroes.

[Lingokids Announcer]

With more than 4,000 interactive games, songs and shows, LingoKids is the number one entertainment platform for young kids.

[Karen Kilgariff]

So no dinosaurs and dinosaurs lingokids everything kids love.

[Child 2]

Download it for free.

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[Wrestling Enthusiast]

You got it coming. This is total non stop action.

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[Xiaobon Toilet Robot Narrator]

Xiaobon Intelligent Toilet robot, designed primarily as a mobile autonomous toilet for elderly people or those with mobility challenges. As a Instead of the person going to the toilet, the toilet comes to the person as soon as you are finished. The robot initiates a built in bidet system for automated washing followed by a warm air drying cycle. From there, a heavy duty odor control mechanism instantly engages, sealing the internal chamber airtight to trap and neutralize any smells. The robot drives itself back to the docking station. It then extends a disposal arm, completely flushing both the solid and and liquid waste away. Immediately after, it runs an intensive self cleaning and sanitizing cycle on the bowl, leaving it pristine for the next trip.

[Joe Getty]

What does this cost? Never mind. It doesn't matter. I must have one because $13,000 because

[Armstrong]

getting up and going to the toilet Is such a job. You need the toilet to come to you.

[Joe Getty]

Whatever room I'm in. That's correct. Living room, kitchen. Doesn't matter.

[Armstrong]

Kitchen. So you're sitting there eating dinner and your family has to watch you do this?

[Joe Getty]

They don't have to. They can avert their eyes. Nobody's making them watch.

[Armstrong]

Start your phone for a second, kids.

[Joe Getty]

You know, if, if someone is elderly or that sort of thing, I, I, I could appreciate that.

[Armstrong]

Sounds like very easy.

[Joe Getty]

This is, this is a great time to be alive.

[Armstrong]

Maybe you're lazy and sometimes you gotta go and you think, do I want

[Joe Getty]

to walk clear across the house? Or I just like going my all the way over there.

[Armstrong]

I mean, I just soil myself. Nobody's coming over tonight.

[Joe Getty]

Now you don't have to face that unfortunate choice. Now the toilet comes to you.

[Armstrong]

Right. You still gotta scoot off your chair onto it, right, though?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah. Presumably, yeah. Unless you get, you know, the next model, be it, I guess the robot would, its docking station would be under your favorite chair.

[Armstrong]

What does it look like?

[Joe Getty]

Most of the time it would just be right there. If you happen to be in a different chair across the house, well, then you could call it to you.

[Armstrong]

What does it look like, Miles? Look like a little trash can on wheels?

[Joe Getty]

No, it's like a chair on wheels, but you know, just like you would imagine. Chair on wheels. Chair on wheels. I mean.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Again, only in America. What a wonderful thing.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. I don't know if there's an audience for that.

[Joe Getty]

So. Totally different topic than mobile robot toilets. I thought this was interesting. There was a big debate last night or two nights ago in the California Assembly. There's some big DEI bill that's about to pass as California goes further down the road of neo Marxism and dei, which is nothing it claims to be. And I compiled a list of that sort of program that's going on right now. They all happen to be on the west coast, but Chris Ruffo wrote a great piece for City Journal. California is currently pressuring public utilities to award $633 million in special contracts to LGBT owned firms. But to qualify, you've got to go through the state's official gay certification program, and you face up to a year in jail if you're not gay enough.

[Armstrong]

So I gotta. In front of someone.

[Joe Getty]

With someone. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Armstrong]

But yeah, obviously with someone. In front of someone so they can document.

[News Reporter]

Yep.

[Armstrong]

He's either gay or he was good at pretending.

[Georgia Hardstark]

All right.

[Joe Getty]

Scheme operates through the California Public Utilities Commission, the cpuc, which regulates Privately owned utility companies. California utilities spent more than $43 billion on contractors, fuel suppliers, surveys, engineers and others. You know, you can imagine. But they created a supplier diversity problem way back when. But now they're trying to expanded to the lgbtq. Plus minus over the Power three community.

[Armstrong]

What's the theory that I, the taxpayers should be giving a break to gay owned businesses over? Well, the idea is that they were. They were discriminated against in the past or something.

[Joe Getty]

It's usually that sort of thing. Yeah, it's just an excuse to spread out money to specific cronies. But the idea that you would be awarded state contracts based on who you are romantically attracted and or sexually attracted to is bizarre. Applicants can secure gay certification by providing a letter from an LGBT organization attesting to their sexual preferences.

[Armstrong]

Now, is that a one time deal? Do I get certified the first time I do it or do I every six months? Do I have to go back and get recertified? Bring some dude along and I would

[Joe Getty]

think it's like a medical license. You have to be recertified every so often. Make sure you haven't forgotten what you've learned.

[Listener/Caller]

Yeah.

[Armstrong]

Wow. I got to go do it again.

[Joe Getty]

So you can either get a letter from an LGBT organization declaring you gay, proof that a newspaper identified you as lgbt, or three letters from personal contacts written on company letterhead attesting to your homosexual orientation. Corporate officials who falsely represent their business as gay face up to a year in county jail.

[Wrestling Enthusiast]

Wow.

[Listener/Caller]

Man.

[Armstrong]

If I was going to start a business, I'd be pretty tempted to claim I was gay and make them prove I'm not.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Prove I'm not gay.

[Armstrong]

I should have mentioned.

[Joe Getty]

I've been wanting to mention it for a week now. The Justice Department issued an opinion explaining the disparate impact under federal law is unconstitutional.

[Armstrong]

Should be.

[Joe Getty]

It's an earthquake in federal civil rights law. Writes one civil rights attorney. If right. This is the foundation to overturn that pernicious regime. And the Wall Street Journal. The Constitution versus disparate impact. That's the presumption that if there's a different result, say white kids tend to do better than black kids on this test. That's proof there is racism there.

[Armstrong]

Or if you got more men passing the firefighter test than women, the test is skewed against women.

[Joe Getty]

Clearly unfairly so.

[Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And needs to be corrected by the government.

[Armstrong]

No chance that just men are better at that than or more are applying or any other number of things. Nope. It's clearly sexism or racism.

[News Reporter]

Or whatever.

[Armstrong]

If you don't end up with an equal result only against black and brown people, though, right? Asian people and people from India, because they're better than everybody. You can discriminate against them.

[Joe Getty]

Or Jewish people. Yeah, no problem. There's no problem there. Justice Department took a great step by telling the Equal Opportunity Commission that its policy on disparate impact was unconstitutional and companies might be. That's kind of confusing. It's the old double reverse. But here's the key quote. Rather than treating disparate impact as an evidentiary mechanism to smoke out intentional discrimination, it contemplates liability based on disproportionately adverse effects alone. Blah, blah, blah. You've got to prove intent and specific activity to discriminate, which is so obviously true. But. So how far has this sort of thing gone? Some more examples for you. Canada, which is admittedly not an American state, explicitly advertises for university and other jobs that are restricted by race and gender. You need not apply, unless you are this race or this gender for government jobs in Canada, which is obscene. This is hilarious. Charles Cook, quoted for the second time on the show today. He says, here's a story so crazy that upon first glance I assumed it must be a hoax. And it's a tweet from a guy who says, I just got a silver alert, which is a good, good reminder that California decided to racially segregate its missing person alert system for some reason. And Charlie's headline is, apparently California has a racially segregated missing person alert system. There is an Amber Alert, which is actually named after a kidnapped child by the name of Amber, that is a missing child. There is a Blue alert, which is which one? Maybe I'll just read it.

[Armstrong]

And Smurf has gone missing. Hilarious.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, so you've got the Ebony Alert, which is for the suspicious or unexplainable explainable disappearance of a black woman or black person, and the Feather Alert, which is for when a missing person is an indigenous woman or indigenous person. The blah, blah, blah. And there's also a yellow alert, but mercifully, given the state's history, that isn't in the same vein as the others. He says. And then he points out, it's so weird when you dig into it. The CHP notes, as I just read, the Ebony Alert accompanies investigations into the suspicious or unexplained disappearment that disappearance of a black woman or black person. Why are those two things separated? Black women are black persons. There's no or about it. The same goes for the feather alert. Again, one group contains the other. I suppose if you're already slicing up adults into racial groups for alerts for some reason, then creating more weird subdivisions comes naturally. But it doesn't look half strange and, well, racist especially. You know, Constitution says you're not supposed to discriminate by race, both the state and federal constitutions.

[Armstrong]

So I was having this conversation with my son the other day about how it's okay to discriminate against or. No, it's okay to point out advantages. Different. I don't know what term to use. Races, ethnicities, skin colors, whatever groups, whatever advantages, but not disadvantages. And how weird that is. You can say that this group is better at this than others, but you can't say a group is worse than that. So you're making this assumption that everything's only a positive and never a negative. Anyway, we got started on this. My son sat down. There's a thing they do in the town I live in is they have pianos, various places sitting outside. And so you can just sit down and play the piano. Like, there's one at the library, and then there's one downtown by a coffee shop, and there's a couple different places.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Armstrong]

And covered.

[Joe Getty]

Or are they subject to the elements?

[Armstrong]

I don't know how they survive the rain, but anyway, they're not in the greatest tune, but they're a piano. And so Henry sat down the other day. I was getting some coffee. He said, I'm gonna go play the piano. So he's over there by the. A different coffee shop playing the piano. And I heard him, and I went over there. This little Asian girl came along. When he got up and just started cranking out some Mozart or whatever the hell she was.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Armstrong]

And he said, it seems like everything I do, some Asian kid comes along and shows me up.

[Joe Getty]

There you go.

[Armstrong]

I thought, yeah, yeah, that's the way it is for us white people, Asia. The Asians are showing us up at absolutely everything, pretty much. And you can say that, but you couldn't do the opposite. If you're better than a group at something, you can't point that out because that's racist.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. You're better than another group.

[Armstrong]

Pointing out being worse than a group

[Joe Getty]

is okay, well, that's the weird thing. You can praise a culture, but you can't say they're bad at this unless it's in the context of it's proof that there's been terrible discrimination.

[Armstrong]

You can say there are no sociological

[Joe Getty]

norms that are negative or cultural norms that are negative. Except those that can be explained away by racism, which is so crazy to me because since I've been a kid I've been studying different cultures and political systems and they all have pluses and minuses because, well, of course they do.

[Armstrong]

Just like every human being has pluses and minuses. So you can say Asians are better at science and math. You can't say Asians are bad drivers. These are things. And I just picked a obviously not true stereotype that only racists would say as an example.

[Joe Getty]

I can't even believe the words came out of your mouth.

[Armstrong]

Everything I do, some Asian kid comes along and shows me up.

[Joe Getty]

Couple more headlines for you. We'll squeeze them in real quick because I went to the trouble of compelling them. A Portland based county, Portland area County, it's Multnomah county, spent millions of dollars on race based housing programs and outcomes for homeless minorities got worse. They dismissed the data that showed that arguing that lived experience mattered as much as measurable outcomes. I mean how stone dreamy Portlandia is that lived experience counts more than your hard cold data. Race dependent. And we talked about this actually when, when it first came to light that you there was a point scoring system where if you were a black trans person, a 25 year old male masquerading as a female, whatever, you got emergency housing before a pregnant white lady or a white mom because you were lower down on the intersectionality totem pole. These people are insane. They're racists and they're going further down the road. It ain't over yet.

[Armstrong]

We'll finish strong.

[Joe Getty]

Next Armstrong and Getty.

[America 250 Announcer]

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[Child 1]

mom, can I have Lingokids? Dad? Lingokids, please.

[Child 2]

When did we become the Lingokids House?

[Georgia Hardstark]

No idea.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Last week it was dinosaurs.

[Child 1]

This week it's Lingokids.

[Child 2]

Why Lingokids?

[Child 1]

Because it's the best thing ever. We can play games with astronauts, wild animals and superheroes.

[Lingokids Announcer]

With more than 4,000 interactive games, songs and shows, LingoKids is the number one entertainment platform for young kids.

[Joe Getty]

So no dinosaurs and dinosaurs, mango kids.

[Child 2]

Everything kids love. Download it for free.

[Wrestling Announcer]

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[Wrestling Enthusiast]

It is like electricity blowing through your veins.

[Wrestling Announcer]

Don't miss the adrenaline, the drama and the total non stop action.

[Wrestling Enthusiast]

No one can ever be as good as this right here.

[Wrestling Announcer]

Don't miss the action of the TNA Thursday Night Impact every week on AMC. For showtimes and more information visit tnarrestling.com

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[Armstrong]

So we're just doing the story about how you can, if you're, if you, if you're running a gay business, you can get some sort of tax break. If you're, if you're gay and running a business, it doesn't have to be a gay business or trans.

[Joe Getty]

That's right. Yeah.

[Armstrong]

I was just wondering how you prove that. Do you go before a government board?

[Xiaobon Toilet Robot Narrator]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Long time friend of the Armstrong and Getty show writes if you fake being gay and get busted and go to jail and get sexed up by an inmate. Do you get out and get the contract? Right. And I think if this cellmate is willing to sign a notarized statement saying, you seem to enjoy it.

[Armstrong]

Yes, you get the gift, you enjoy it, is the question.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. And then he notes that in California, no one stays in jail locked up long enough to actually consummate the deal. Chris Ruffo, in his description of this idiotic woke California program, details the experience of Marianne Horton, who used to be. Well, he's still a dude essentially, but it was a white male who quote unquote, transitioned. But he was an early Internet Internet pioneer credited with helping develop the email attachment. That's a claim.

[Armstrong]

Invented the little paper clip that goes there by the email.

[Joe Getty]

But now Marianne has a. Is regarded in California as a woman. And Marianne's business is an LGBT owned business. The application process, Horton told City Journal, requires a mess of documentation to prove that the company was lesbian owned. They sent supplier clearinghouse, a domestic partner affidavit, blah, blah, blah, birth certificate, which Washington state post certified as post transition. Then there's a therapist carry letter, a document for medical professionals certifying transgender identity

[Armstrong]

and give her two drinks and watch. That's what you do here. I need to see what happens.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I think it was. Well, it's funny because this person applied as a lesbian, not transgender. What the hell?

[Armstrong]

So we mentioned this earlier in the show. More details will be coming out, I'm sure, but scumbag murderer Luigi Mangione, allegedly, but also actually who is accused of killing the poor health care executive of United Health Care, murdering him in cold blood because his Luigi Mangione is a scumbag. His lawyers planned to argue that Luigi was experiencing extreme emotional disturbance when he killed the United Healthcare executive. He had a. His strong emotions resulted in a profound loss of self control leading to the homicide.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's not a good argument. People who lose their self control and murder somebody in cold blood on the pavement, we generally put them in a cage for the rest of their days or execute them. Good luck, Luigi.

[Armstrong]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the day there is pressing the button in the control room. Michelangelo, what's your final thought? The robot toilets. We could use them at sporting events. You don't have to leave your seat anymore to go to the restroom. It just comes to you. You just do your business and it goes away.

[Armstrong]

I want to be sitting next to somebody at a Sporting event while they're.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah.

[News Reporter]

Beautiful.

[Joe Getty]

Jack, a final thought for us.

[Wrestling Enthusiast]

Yeah.

[Armstrong]

Katie. Katie, the news lady. Katie Green, our news person who had a baby a while back. She is constantly sending us pictures and she's got one cute baby, I will tell you that.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, Tiny little fella. We're gonna be checking in with Katie in the next day or two, I think. Get an update. My final thought is what if I swore up and down that I'm a closeted gay man, come from a fundamentalist family and I, you know, I haven't admitted it to anybody, but yeah, I think about sex with men all the time. I, I, I grit my teeth when I'm with my wife. I'm, but I'm, I'm gay as hell or I'm selling.

[Armstrong]

I just haven't find the right person yet.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And so I've kept things quiet. There's no documentation. What are they going to discriminate against me? This is bigotry.

[Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up out of the grueling four hour workday.

[Joe Getty]

So stupid. So many people.

[Matt Quinn]

Thanks.

[Joe Getty]

So little time. Go to Armstrong and yeti.com drop us a note [e-mail] pick up some swag while you're there.

[Armstrong]

We'll see you tomorrow. God bless America.

[Matt Quinn]

As soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a

[Joe Getty]

load of Armstrong and Getty. The biggest load that we've seen. Are you true? Yep, absolutely.

[Iranian Official]

I don't frankly fully understand it.

[Child 1]

I'm gonna call my lawyer. Gonna.

[Xiaobon Toilet Robot Narrator]

So let's go out with a bang.

[Armstrong]

Look at you.

[Joe Getty]

You got rights coming out the wazoo. All because a whole bunch of good people, 250 years worth, sacrificed everything they had for this awesome wallpaper behind me. Know your rights. Thank you all very much. Armstrong and Getty.

[America 250 Announcer]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

hi, it's Karen in Georgia from my favorite Murder.

[Georgia Hardstark]

We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.

[Podcast Host]

Want the full story?

[Joe Getty]

Take a listen.

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No one can ever be as good as this right here.

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