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Jack Armstrong
This is an iHeart podcast broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. So Musk is also calling on Republicans.
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Joe Getty
To rip up the bill.
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Jack Armstrong
But senators I've spoken to say they do not have time to start all over, especially because the President wants this bill on his desk by July 4th.
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Joe Getty
As for now, President Trump, we still.
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Jack Armstrong
Have not heard from him directly on.
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Joe Getty
These comments by Elon Musk, senior White House official says while they were caught off guard, they weren't entirely surprised by Musk's increasing attacks on the so called big beautiful bill. And a source telling me people in the President's orbit are furious about Musk's posts, including where he said lawmakers should be fired for voting for the bill, calling it a betrayal, saying it suggests Musk is open to funding Democratic campaigns.
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Jack Armstrong
Things are getting weird and they're getting weird fast.
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Joe Getty
A betrayal. So here's, here's where I want to.
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Jack Armstrong
Know before we get into the analysis, I'm pretty sure that first reporter said.
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Joe Getty
Especially, okay, we gotta run that again first.
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Jack Armstrong
Clip 40 so Musk is also calling on Republicans to rip up the bill, but senators I've spoken to say they do not have time to start all over, especially because the President wants this bill on his desk. Accusation I retracted. Rachel Scott of abc, a pros, pro. And I said back to you.
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Joe Getty
So this is what's bothering me about this, the coverage and then, well, the attitude of the politicians, I suppose should make sense because that's the way they do things. The coverage in the news of it has been driving me crazy. So you think it's really like a deep, complicated story that deserves explanation and like so unusual and hard to imagine that Elon Musk, who campaigned for Donald Trump now is against one of his pieces of legislation. You can't accept the fact that almost all voters outside of people who are in Washington D.C. and work for the government, and maybe some people, the media have things they believe in and believe them, whether or not they're the, the politician that they voted for or their friend or whatever goes the other direction.
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Jack Armstrong
What are you trying to suggest, sir?
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Joe Getty
Elon has been talking about the debt being unsustainable and the biggest threat to America for years. And you think it's, that's why he.
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Jack Armstrong
Did the whole Doge business.
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Joe Getty
That's why he got involved in Trump in the first place. He thought the Republican Party was the route to do something about the debt and you think it's odd that he's sticking with a principle he believes in rather than turning over everything he believes in and going with Trump. That, to you would be the normal thing to do. That's how cynical we are or how whatever it is phony all of politics is. You think the normal thing to do would have been to just go along with Trump. The abnormal thing to do is to continue to believe what you've been saying for years. That bothers me.
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Jack Armstrong
You know, I think what that is is the, the media no longer notices the tribalism, the naked, like, unmitigated tribalism. They've. It's just, it's the air around them, so they don't even bother to, to, to notice its presence.
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Joe Getty
I don't think it used to be that way. I'd have to think more. I feel like there used to be politicians, for instance, that were known for, and there still are a few, like Rand Paul is known as a fiscal conservative. That's not gonna go with, you know, this bill, which he's not. But in general, it's all about. No, no, no, you stick with your tribe. And if somebody breaks away from the tribe, that's really, really weird. As opposed to. Well, the guy's been saying this about, you know, pick your topic. Immigration or tariffs or whatever for, you know. Well, I guess because we've seen so many people flip their opinion completely to go along with Joe Biden or Donald Trump or whoever, that that's become the norm. I'm looking at Elon Musk.
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Jack Armstrong
You could easily write the headline or the story from the point of view. Elon Musk has such serious concerns about the bill, he has suggested revamping it. That's not very good soap opera stuff, but that's what happened.
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Joe Getty
Well, he called it a. What a disgusting abomination or something like that. That's, that's, that's a little stronger than. I have some concerns about this.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, I'm a middle child and everybody.
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Joe Getty
Who voted for it should be ashamed. Yeah, I think that's.
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Jack Armstrong
Than he had serious concerns. I like that.
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Joe Getty
The Wall Street Journal, their words were, I thought I captured him. Maybe I didn't. I believe the Wall Street Journal called Trump and Musk the two most powerful men in the world. If you look at it that way, if they aren't, they're close. They're in the top five. Yeah. If they're. If, if you look at it that way, it's pretty interesting. I mean, you know, on its own, but from Elon Musk's Twitter feed. I thought this is interesting. His pinned tweet at the top today and Elon has 220 million followers by the way he runs the thing. He retweeted somebody in journalism. Fox News comments is a great place to understand conservative views since it gets so much traffic. I was curious what people were saying about Elon s talking the big beautiful bill and I'm shocked. Almost every comment on the Fox News comments is in agreement with Elon. Wow, I thought that was fascinating.
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Jack Armstrong
Especially because Fox News has gone way out of its way to be Trump friendly I think. Right.
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Joe Getty
Elon Musk. This was a year and a half ago he was at some speech and he said the Defense Department budget is a very big budget. It's a trillion dollars a year and interest payments on the national jet just exceeded the Defense Department budget. They're over a trillion dollars a year just in interest in rising. We're adding a trillion dollars to our debt which our kids and gradkids are going to have to pay somehow every three months and then soon it's going to be every two months and then every month and then the only thing we'll be able to pay is interest. And it's just like a person at scale that has racked up too much credit card debt. This does not have a good ending. We have to reduce spending. He said that a year and a half ago. He's been talking about that forever. So when he sticks with his principles. The odd thing is that he stuck with his principles. I find that disgusting. But that's the end of my point on that.
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Jack Armstrong
Well said. Well said indeed. Elon is also also allegedly highly annoyed that a good friend, associate, teammate of his was yanked from the, the, the nomination to be the head of NASA. This Isaacson, what's his first name? Mr. Isaacson, whatever his name is.
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Joe Getty
Because.
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Jack Armstrong
The Trump administration says because he donated to Democrats in the past.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, we should run this clip, this news clip cuz that hits to what you're talking about. Some Republicans suggest Musk may be motivated by his own self interest. Sources telling us he's frustrated the bill cuts the electric vehicle tax credit which benefits Tesla owners. They say he's also annoyed Trump struck.
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Jack Armstrong
Deals with rival AI companies and that Trump withdrew his choice for NASA administrator.
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Joe Getty
So the pushback from the Republicans in some cases just to try to make Elon look like he's just a self serving, you know, whatever like any other politician which you know could absolutely be in there but like I just read he is saying things that are indisputably true about our debt. There is no arguing that. How did you go broke gradually, then suddenly that's what we're doing. When he points that out, he doesn't. There don't. I would believe that even if the EV tax credits were in there, he'd still be against this.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I think so. I think so. He has shown no or very, very few signs of being a go along to get along guy in a dozen different areas. So yeah, again, it's the soap opera deliciousness of this that is driving most of the coverage. It's no good for the country. But the mainstream media doesn't care what's good for the country. They don't spend a single second thinking about it.
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Joe Getty
He is going to lose this argument. I think so. What do you think about him, you know, basically trying to whip senators against the big beautiful bill? He's saying don't vote for it. Kill the bill. Kill the bill. He was running that all day long yesterday on his Twitter feed and every interview he could do. Kill the bill. Kill the bill. Do you think he's got the power to have any sway on that? I was listening to one news report where it said senators have the tough choice to deciding between Elon Musk and Trump. I think they're going to go with the guy who leads their party.
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Jack Armstrong
I would agree. I could see it emboldening another one or two senators to push a little harder. Maybe another one or two congresspeople to hold the line a little bit longer and some of the reforms they need as a major change driver. No, I don't think so. Which is too bad, honestly. I mean, I really, really appreciate him saying this stuff. As anybody who's been listening to the show for an extended period knows, we've been howling this stuff for a long time now. It's. It is the world's most predictable disaster. Unless, as we were discussing yesterday, I believe is now or three of the show. If you aren't listening, you can grab it by podcast Armstrong and Getting on Demand or I'll just recap it here very briefly. It is increasingly believed in some circles, including me, that the plan is because there is no will among the electorate to raise taxes and there is no will among the electorate to cut services. We are going to solve this through rampant inflation. The $20 trillion we owe today won't be worth very much after, you know, a lot of inflation for 10 years. So we can pay it off fairly easily with our new super cheap, worthless currency.
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Joe Getty
Awesome. Our old friend David Drucker we've had on the air many times, he usually has his finger on the pulse of Congress when they're trying to work their way through bills and talks to a lot of people about how they're going to vote. Here's his current thinking on that. And so there just isn't a lot of support for the kind of fiscal restraint that used to sort of characterize the Republican Party, at least philosophically. Are there four or five conservative Republicans left in the House that say no to this? Well, yeah, but saying it's not saying no to this, it's saying no to President Donald Trump.
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Jack Armstrong
And their voters trust Trump more than they trust them.
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Joe Getty
So as long as Trump wants this bill, this bill is likely to pass one way or the other. Bill is likely to pass according to David Drucker, who's as good as anybody on reporting on the Hill, one way or the other.
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Jack Armstrong
What bill though, what bill will pass? Because the Senate still hasn't responded with their own.
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Joe Getty
I understand your point, but it's going to be more or less what it is now. There aren't going to be any major changes. It's going to be, it's going to be a disgusting abomination. It's going to be spending, okay, maybe it ends up not being 2.7 trillion, it's 2.6 and a half trillion or whatever, but it's going to be mostly this.
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Jack Armstrong
Executive Producer Hansen urging us to play clip 47 Senator John Kennedy. We will play it, Hansen, if you assure me the strongest terms, there will be no forced home spun charm.
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Joe Getty
If you haven't heard this, this is really good.
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Jack Armstrong
Let's do it.
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Joe Getty
Here's what's driving this and this is ultimately why I think the bill will pass. We're an unchart waters here with the tariffs. I think the markets are telling us that we don't know what impact they're going to have in the economy. But if we don't extend those tax cuts, we're going into a recession and our economy is going to be on a journey to the center of the earth. And ultimately I think that's why the bill passed.
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Jack Armstrong
That's that was dangerously close at the end. Yeah, turning to the center of the earth.
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Joe Getty
I absolved myself in that. That's not the clip I was thinking of that I saw yesterday. He did some grilling in Congress about this that I thought was very, very honest, like shockingly honest from a senator.
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Jack Armstrong
Although the first 90% of it you're saying, look, we got to extend the task tax cuts, no matter.
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Joe Getty
Oh my God. And the Democrats are going huge on the whole. Once again, tax cuts for the rich while punishing the poor. Everybody, the Washington Post, whoever you want to talk to from the 2017 tax cuts have, have looked into it and made the point. The fact checker in the Washington Post. It's mostly middle class tax cuts. It just is. You're lying when you claim it's tax cuts for the rich.
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Jack Armstrong
It's just a lie.
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Joe Getty
Maybe you still think it's a bad idea because we're going broke, but don't claim it's for the rich.
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Jack Armstrong
One of the most sobering and disappointing realities of politics that we all learn sooner or later is that a lot of a lot of it revolves around the lowest information voters and everyone knows it.
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Joe Getty
Thank you, Marjorie, who's now against the bill Handson for for interesting AI reasons we'll have to talk about later. Hanson made a new song with the AI that he played for me yesterday. We've got to get on the air. It's so good. Among other things on the way.
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Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Oh first versus this speaker, Mike Johnson says he's going to talk to Elon today. There is a chance, by the way, that this turns really fun in terms of the soap opera I care about, you know, fiscal sanity and not going broke as a country mostly. And not the soap opera that DC is Obsessed with. But it could turn with Elon and Trump. Those two guys are capable of. If one of them fires the first shot of oh boy, you're an asshat. And then Elon says, why don't you go F yourself in the face? Oh, wow. Wow.
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Jack Armstrong
Hey.
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Joe Getty
That was a. That is something he said to a major figure in the news on his Twitter feed. I think that is newsworthy.
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Jack Armstrong
He called Mark Zuckerberg a pedophile, didn't he?
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Joe Getty
I mean, he has said things like that. Two big deals in the past on his Twitter.
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Jack Armstrong
So what you're saying is if the country's going to go to hell, at least make it entertaining so it's not.
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Joe Getty
Beyond either one of them. Especially if they both start in. It could turn crazy entertaining. So look forward to that. So our executive executive producer Hanson has started crafting songs with the help of AI this one is based on. We have a tendency after the show is over, Joe and I to. To say things like, you know, well, that one sucked, but we'll try to be better tomorrow or that sort of thing. It's just kind of a. Like a running joke of, I don't.
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Jack Armstrong
Know, light hearted banter.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Start the music. Michael, I forgot to tell you to start the music because there's a long piano ramp up. And so Mike Hansen gave the cue to the AI to do kind of a 70s soft rock based on some things we said yesterday after the show. In that spirit, let's try to put this one behind us.
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Jack Armstrong
Nice. Just tamp down the shame early Elton John vibe. Maybe we do better tomorrow unless we.
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Joe Getty
Continue to be so lame.
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Jack Armstrong
And now this kind of. I saw that drum fill coming from a mile away.
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Joe Getty
And this kind of guitar solo before it gets into the chorus. I mean it is amazing that with like just a few prompts, 70 soft rock, couple of phrases, it crafts this song.
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Jack Armstrong
It's frightening and horrifying.
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Joe Getty
We got the chorus coming up that I think you'll enjoy.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, there's more.
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Joe Getty
Just tap down the shame Just tap down the shame.
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Jack Armstrong
Maybe we do better tomorrow. We're all swaying back and forth with our arms in the air. It is absolutely clear that in putting together it's 70s soft rock style, they absolutely studied Elton John songs. There are a couple of characteristic chordal movements that are straight out of old Reg Dwight's songbook.
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Joe Getty
It's amazing. I don't. I don't know where all of this is going. We do need to talk about AI though. I started reading a new book that has me scared to death. But maybe we'll get to that later so we don't go, all the world's coming to an end on you, Armstrong and Getty. This book, Independent, it's a. It's about looking outside of boxes, not just always being in a partisan stance. And how do we move forward together in a compassionate way, in a way that really, truly cares about people.
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Jack Armstrong
So Little KJP is putting a book out. Let's hear that next clip. Michael.
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Joe Getty
An era of misinformation, disinformation, the regressiveness of social policy. What we're seeing currently right now, what I have decided to do, and I really have thought long and hard about this, is to follow my own compass. And here's the truth and here's how I relay it out to you. I think we need to stop thinking in boxes and think outside of our boxes and not be so partisan, you know, so the way this struck me, and I think I have a different take on it than most of conservative media about this.
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Jack Armstrong
If I might set it up very quickly. Little KJP has a new book out about her experiences in the White House and also has announced she's leaving the Democratic Party and is becoming an Independent, hence her charting her own course.
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Joe Getty
First, some of the clips I heard, she sounded way more intelligent, thoughtful, and believable herself in all the clips that I heard than she ever did at the White House podium. I do still think that she was not cut out for that job for a variety of reasons, but she had two choices doing that job. She was either gonna go out there and tell the lies the best she could that she was told to tell or resign. Those were her two options. No. No other fudge room whatsoever. You were either gonna go out there and sell those lies the best you could, seeing the guy every day, she was watching news, she had C span, she was in the White House. And to go out there and claim, no, he's got more energy than me. I mean, she was either going to do the Baghdad, Baghdad Bob thing or she was going to resign. Those were her two choices. I don't know what you would have done. I'm not sure. Well, I think. I don't think I could do it, but.
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Jack Armstrong
No, no, you couldn't. For reasons that are admirable. I said many times that at the time when she was the press secretary, she was terrible at her job. Just absolutely terrible. On the other hand, as I pointed out many times, she is sent out there to defend the indefensible on a daily basis. And that is Not EAS easy work. So both are true. Now she's gonna. We need to be less partisan and outside the boxes. I agree completely with her on that. I have. That might be her particular box would not suit me very much.
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Joe Getty
True. But that might be her true belief.
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Jack Armstrong
Sure.
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Joe Getty
It's possible she just had. Was got that job somehow and then, you know, did it the best you could. I mean, so I don't know what she actually believes. But, but if you're her agent and trying to make you help her make money coming off of this gig of a lifetime, these, these White House press people often come out and go on great lives of, you know, a cable news show or, or whatever. They make a lot of money. What would you tell her? I, I thought it was interesting she decided not to be a Democrat anymore to go no party. That doesn't seem like the best way to land an MSNBC show, which is kind of where I thought she would end up. Right.
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Jack Armstrong
Unless from her point of view. And I see her as a pretty progressive far lefty. Who knows what her true colors are or like her true hair color. Who knows. But I think she's a far lefty. So she might be fine. If she's gonna say that the Democratic Party is too centrist. We need a revolution in this country. Which she might say, but it is absolutely a terrible look for the Democratic Party and the brand that their press secretary, their White House press secretary.
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Joe Getty
That's a good point.
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Jack Armstrong
Flees their party.
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Joe Getty
That's a good point.
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Jack Armstrong
You know, within a few months of being out of the White House.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, that's a good point. That was lost on me. And of course the lefty media did not make a big deal out of that. If, if what's his name? Spencer Spicer. If Sean Spicer. How could I not come up with his name? I watch him almost every day because he's on Mark Halperin's show. If Sean Spicer had come out a couple of months, like 90 days after he left his job and said, I'm leaving the Republican Party, what an earthquake of a news story that would have been. And seen as a rejection of Trumpism. Little KGP comes out and says, I'm leaving the Democrat Party. That's, that's a pretty big story.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, unfortunately, Jack and I hate this. People are saying snarky things like this one well known White House reporter who said did when was told she was writing a book. Did she find the manuscript somewhere in that fat binder she toted around. If I were a historian writing about the White House. I wouldn't ignore what Karine has to say, but it's not an account in which much weight will be invested. Just like her briefings, said the reporter.
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Joe Getty
I wonder if she's. CNN's trying to have the, you know, we're not part of any party brand, which is kind of hilarious given their coverage, but maybe she's already got a show lined up on cnn. And part of the deal was say you're not with any party, do the book tour and then you got your, you know, your evening slot on CNN or News Nation. That might be the place. You know, you land there and you do a show after Andrew Cuomo, for what it's worth.
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Jack Armstrong
And this will.
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Joe Getty
Chris Cuomo. I get the Cuomo's mixed up.
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Jack Armstrong
Everybody does.
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Joe Getty
Which one lifts weights and which one gropes women and kills old people?
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Jack Armstrong
Andrew and Chris, respectively. Honey, sweetheart, I listened to a. An hour and a half long interview with Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson about their Joe B. Joe Biden, senile as can be. Really.
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Joe Getty
Who is the host?
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Jack Armstrong
Barry Weiss of the Free Press.
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Joe Getty
Okay.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And it was, it was very, very interesting. Jake is still just trying so hard to thread the needle of, yes, everybody noticed it and yes, everybody knew it, but we didn't know it because we were misled by our sources. And I'm sticking to that. And I look back with humbleness or whatever he's been saying. It was uncomfortable to listen to because it's so weaselly. But, but the, the extent to which everybody close to The President was 100% cognizant of his non, non cognizance is just, it's now completely beyond dispute. Nobody could even hint that people anywhere close to him were unaware of his decline.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, I don't give a pass to Jake Tepper for the reasons we've stated a thousand times. If two thirds or more of the American people knew it with no sources. Come on. But I could see that if. Because according to the book, you know, it was just like five people, like the closest handful of people that controlled everything. And if you were friends with these people and you trusted and believed them and you knew them for years and they were lying to your face. Oh, no, no. Behind the scenes, he's, he's fine, trust me. Which is what they were doing.
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Jack Armstrong
Right. That was actually what I was working toward. It struck me that because they have the access that they do, that's where their attention is toward their sources, toward their cool. I'm close to power sources and their, their muscles of just everyday dopes like ourselves. Observation, atrophy. They become dependent on the pipelines that they're dependent on. And it struck me, I'm not expressing this very well, but it struck me that they are so close. Well, they can't see the forest for the trees. Maybe that's the best way to put it, that all of the rest of us didn't have any problems seeing the shape of the forest. And it was unmistakable, that shape and what it meant, just unmistakable. But those who are close to the halls of power and you know, and I'm trying to be at least somewhat charitable here, dependent on. And they have the privilege of getting really great insider information. They are much, much more easily misled than people like us. And I'm talking about you good folks.
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Joe Getty
As well as Jackson. That makes sense.
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Jack Armstrong
You could have the entire cabinet stand up and sing in luscious three part harmony that Joe Biden was as sharp as hell and we were gratified to have him as president. And I'd have laughed, but if I spend my life and career listening to these people and trusting them and writing a source close to the president said, I guess I could see where you get misled.
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Joe Getty
Right.
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Jack Armstrong
But it's sad. You're a journalist, which is, you know, part of the reason we've never really pursued being among the. I mean, wouldn't have us anyway. But being among the power and the elite and the Beltway crowd and all that idea just disgusts me. I don't want that.
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Joe Getty
I took that from Imus. Listening to Imus back in the day, early on he would say, and I mean, he ended up being very powerful in, in the news world at the height of his powers. You can't go to those parties. You can't, you can't, you can't go. You just can't do that. You got to stay away from those people.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I think he's right.
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Joe Getty
So coming up, among other things, we got another, you know, high school sports are coming to an end. My son's high school, they got some state championship stuff going on a. Another Trans story. You got girls softball, Trans pitcher dominates and wins the state championship.
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Jack Armstrong
A boy, you mean a young man.
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Joe Getty
And also the Washington Post with an article of maybe ice baths aren't a good idea. And I hadn't jumped in one yet, but I was thinking about it.
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Jack Armstrong
I just ordered my ice.
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Joe Getty
Among other things on the way. Stay here.
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Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty. Plus some more business news is said.
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Joe Getty
That JetBlue and United Airlines are forming a new partnership. That will link their two companies. Check out the announcement. Hey, frequent flyers. JetBlue and United Airlines are excited to announce our new partnership. Now you'll be able to choose for more flights, transfer miles and enjoy your reward status on both airlines. JetBlue and United, it's time to fly. Turns out it's inspired two other airlines to partner up. Really?
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Jack Armstrong
Look at this ad I saw. Hey, get a load of this. Spirit and Frontier hooking up this summer.
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Joe Getty
Now you'll be able to do shots with the pilot, smoke in the bathroom.
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Jack Armstrong
And bring your emotional support. Raccoon on both airlines, Spirit and Frontier. Bring something to watch on your phone.
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Joe Getty
Cause your flight's getting delayed. No to the point. It's very to the point. I got my real ID in the mail so I can now fly again like an adult in the United States of America if I need to. So that's very exciting. I now have a real ID because of 9 11. I've got my real ID, right.
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Jack Armstrong
And immigration or something. Anyway, congratulations.
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Joe Getty
A couple of stories for you. I'll go with this. Sports 1 First WNBA without Caitlin Clark feeling the hurt. She has been hurt for the first time in her career, college or pro. Been out for a couple of weeks. Ratings have tanked. Attendance has tanked immediately. It's tough when you're the league's barely perceptible. You know, hot streak is all based on one player that that makes it rough. Different sports story. And you might remember Minnesota attempted to, or at least some people in Minnesota attempted to a couple of months back pass a no Dudes and Girls Sports Act. That's not what it was called. But they tried to pass it and it didn't make it. And now you have the results of that in that you've got this girls softball team with a dude pitcher that is going to the state championship. The pitcher has been dominating all season at.
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Jack Armstrong
Well done, sir.
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Joe Getty
Well done as a pitcher and a hitter and a bunch of key hits that allowed the team to move on through the state championship.
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Jack Armstrong
Probably because he's a dude.
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Joe Getty
I'm looking at the picture. This, this, this picture is huge compared to the other girls. I mean, like, way bigger compared to.
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Jack Armstrong
The girls, you mean.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. You know, if you want to be technical about it. Minnesota. Minnesota.
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Jack Armstrong
I do. I really do.
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Joe Getty
Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, you might remember that name. He's come up many times with many stories over the years. He's the attorney general there in Minnesota. He said in addition to getting exercise and the fun of competition, playing sports comes with so many Benefits to young people. It's the first thing he said on this story.
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Jack Armstrong
Wow.
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Joe Getty
And then, and then I believe it is wrong to single out one group of students who already face higher levels of bullying, harassment and tell these kids they cannot be on the team because of who they are. I will continue to defend their rights. I will continue to defend the rights of all students to play sports with their friends and peers. There's been a lot. There's been a lawsuit from one of the girls on one of the teams that lost. You might remember Trump did the executive order of no dudes and girls sports or whatever it was called. Minnesota is openly defying it and now it's being challenged and it's got to make its way through the courts to see if President Trump can do that for states or not.
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Jack Armstrong
Whack him upside the head with title nine, baby. Let's do it.
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Joe Getty
Players involved in the lawsuit said this in a statement. It is upsetting to see a male athlete dominating our sport and taking opportunities away from girls who have worked hard all season to make it to the championship game in the state tournament. On top of the unfairness, it oftentimes is a risk to play a physical sport like softball against a male athlete.
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Jack Armstrong
Can you go back to that quote from Keith Ellison? That's the response to that?
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Joe Getty
The, the first part or the.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Joe Getty
The part that in addition to getting exercise and the fun of competition, playing sports comes with so many benefits for young people.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, right. Or I don't believe in discriminating against people who already face a high level of something or other. No. Keith. Keith. Hello. It's a dude playing in girl sports and he's big and he's strong and he's dominating. You know, I think back to the. My, my new slogan which was going to be cut the crap. This is a perfect example for America. Keith Ellison. Cut the crap. Quit with that. You're not fooling anybody. You're not bullying anybody with that garbage, that greeting card rhetoric about inclusion and crap. It's a dude playing sports and whooping up on the girls. That's what it is. Call it what it is and cut the crap.
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Joe Getty
So different story. We've got a long time client, Steve Lamoth, good dude we've known for a long time who we were talking to a while back. And he swears by cold plunges, ice baths or whatever you want to call them. They're not literally ice, but it's like really cold water that you get into early in the morning. He hates it. He's not the sort of person that likes it any more than you would like it. He says he absolutely hates it. Every morning he thinks he's not going to do it and forces himself to do it because he's gotten such great results out of it. And I and sleeping better. All kinds of different things. And this has been a hot story for a while. The Washington Post is out today. Are cold plunges good for you? Here's what the science says. Cold plunges are very popular, but a new study shows they may interfere with blah blah, blah, blah, blah. I just wanted to bring up, I haven't read the article but I wanted to bring up this phenomenon that happens in the media all the time just so you can spot it. And it's just as tired as could be if you're a person who reads headlines all the time. So there'll be a new diet like intermittent fasting. And then every newspaper you read or news show will talk about how great it is. And then once that's like saturated and kind of like it's tired, then they.
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Jack Armstrong
Got to come out clicks anymore.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, you got to come out a week later with why intermittent fasting might not be as good as you think it is. And then you get all the clicks on that. And everybody does that for a while and usually both sides of it are crap or mostly crap. So now get ready for the why ice plunges aren't everything people claim they are stories for a while. And whether they are or not, I haven't got the slightest idea. And you're probably not going to learn it from reading any of those articles, right?
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Jack Armstrong
Right, indeed. And actually on that topic kind of sort of more or less, I suspect very strongly that the ice plunges or whatever you want to call them, cold plunges are probably really good for some people and not really good for others and maybe bad for others. And it might depend on genetics or other factors. I was just reading that they've figured out the gene mutation and I always figured it was that lets some people function perfectly well on say four hours of sleep.
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Joe Getty
Oh wow. Talk about we're gonna get into AI crossing paths with, you know, CRISPR and everything else happening at the same time. Gene editing. I wonder if you can edit your genes to where you're. You're, you know, you're a five hour a night person. Your kid is going to be a five hour a night person for sleep. Sleep. Would you do that for your baby sleep?
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, we all sleep. Why don't we get into this next hour? It's pretty interesting.
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Joe Getty
Heck, yeah. That. That's the first one I've come across where I thought I might be willing to do that. I have to put more thought into it, you know?
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Jack Armstrong
Now Jack's playing God. We knew he was an egomaniac, didn't we, folks? Now it's the there's your proof.
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Joe Getty
Why wouldn't. Why wouldn't you want to have a kid who can get by on five hours of sleep a day like some people can?
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Jack Armstrong
Can I do it to me?
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Is it too late to edit my genes? My old tired genes?
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Jack Armstrong
Have a hack at it.
- [36:22]
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
This is an I Heart podcast.