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studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
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Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
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President Trump back in battleground Pennsylvania Today touring a Mack Truck facility in Lehigh county and announcing 2600 new manufacturing jobs in the Keystone State. President also touting 19 million barrels of
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oil flowed out of the Strait of
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Hormuz yesterday while telling PBS Americans should support an $80 billion supplemental funding package
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for the war because, quote, iran will
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That's not costing much at all. That's not Ed o'. Keefe. So that is not the clip that I chose that was actually about the war in Iran, which would have fit well with talking with Mike Lyons because his expertise is the military. Welcome, Mike Lyons, to the Armstrong and Getty Show.
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Hey, Jack, thanks for having me.
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I do want to talk about your piece in Real Clear defense about the $20,000 drone that should wake up the Pentagon, because that sounds really, really interesting. But before we get to that, I was just reading at least one piece in the Wall Street Journal comfortable declaring that we lost this war and certainly that the Iranians feel like they won it. Is there a way there that at West Point or, you know, those of you in college classes who'd study war determine a win versus a loss? And at what point do you determine that?
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Well, if you look at war as an extension of foreign policy, you know, the warfare, the operational success that we have here, did that give the president, did the country the leverage to negotiate what were considered to be fair, favorable terms for us? Right now it is looking like that's just not the case. The operational success, the military success was clear on the ground, given what's been destroyed of the Iranian navy, their capability to manufacture war, fighting capability going forward. However, what's the political outcome of this? The best comparison is Vietnam. We've never really lost a battle on the ground in Vietnam. However, we end up losing that from a strategic perspective, that the story's not out there yet, it hasn't been told, but I think the can's been kicked down the road right now. And the question is whether or not the military did. Gave the President the leverage. I think we did give the President the leverage he needed to negotiate harder, but it doesn't look like that's the outcome.
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So it seems to me most people left, right and center don't like this deal. But we've had a few people who say, and this might be where Trump is, you gotta live in the real world, where we are today with a possible worldwide recession if we keep the strait closed and what it's doing to the price of oil and this and that, and what it would take for the military to get to our objectives at this point. Is this the smart thing to do now? So looking at that, would it have been possible for us to force open the straight o Hormuz? What would that have looked like if we had decided to go that far?
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Well, it would have looked like what it did back in the 80s when we ran that mission with regard to opening up the strait and keeping it open then it's not that it was impossible then. What was that Earnest will that mission was called? We had over 250 tankers that went through that environment with navy escorts. And maybe perhaps we don't have those assets there right now. We really don't have the destroyers there. We don't have the same level of navy that we had. But that would have been possible. I mean, this is a good example of while you can defeat the Iranians, militarily, sink their navy, destroy their capability, take away their nuclear future, the bottom line is they still have geography on their side. And that geography is the straits. And with coastal batteries and mines and fast moving boats, they live in the crevices and they can use asymmetric warfare to threaten it. I like that expression of it. Yeah, I want to live in the real world too. But to all of a sudden just decide when it's not going to play anymore after starting this seems like it's a little unfinished as well. And again just really kicks the can down the road with regard to solving this problem.
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How troubled are you by leaving their rocket making capability and some of their rockets? I don't know. I remember the big journalistic piece that came out that said they still had, whatever it was, 70% of their rocket capability. Are you okay with leaving them with that and the threat that they may someday overwhelm the iron dome system there in Israel?
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Well, I'm not sure it's that high. They have it on their mobile tracks. But let's be clear, their ballistic missile capability is offensive. You know, when the president made that comment, it's like, oh, it's okay for them to have some offensive ballistic missiles? Absolutely not. Those are, you're not, you know, if they had Patriot missiles or air defense systems, which is what the market's going to boom for, especially with what we see in Europe and Ukraine and Russia right now, there's going to be, you know, if you invest in air defense stocks because Anduril and these companies that make those missiles are going through the roof, they're not going to be able to manufacture them. But again, the missiles that the Iranians have are offensive they're not designed to protect them. They're not used for deterrence. They're used to reign terror on their enemies. And so I'm really concerned with that. Mike Pompeo has been talking about that since he was Secretary of State in the first Trump administration. This whole thing, it's all tied together, the ballistic missiles with the nuclear capability, because you have one thing to have a nuke, nothing to deliver it, and those ballistic missiles allow them to do both.
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I know some of this stuff is getting into kind of philosophical stuff as opposed to just strict military strategy stuff that you're an expert with. But like Joe and I have been saying for a while, if Iran announced they have a nuclear bomb and they have one, that would be one of the biggest days in world history, wouldn't it?
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Yeah, for sure. Because of their capability to deliver it. And, you know, it's one thing.
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And their intention.
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Yeah, exactly. And how they could deliver it. And, you know, they're not putting it on the back of a Toyota pickup truck and pushing it across the border. They're gonna launch it at Israel is what they would do. They would do it without recourse. You know, we, as I said, a few months. The Iranians never thought we would do what we did. They never thought we would do epic fury. They never thought we would do that. Well, now it looks like we're not going to finish it. And I think that's to their advantage. We reverted back to self deterrence again, and I think that's an issue. But it's sure the North Koreans have a nuclear capability. We watched that happen and we all put our hands in our head and said, boy, look at that. Many presidents just let that go as well. They didn't do anything about it. China at least keeps them in a box, but there's no country that's going to keep the Iranians in a box.
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Right. And while I really hate that North Korea has a weapon, he doesn't every day have, you know, his people in the street chanting death to, you know, whatever little country nearby him in the way that the Iranians do. Their intention and their ability coming together would be horrifying. A way to get to your drone piece today maybe, would be to look at where Russia and Ukraine are right now. I just, I'm not following it as closely as I used to. And I just keep seeing headlines that Ukraine's on the front foot.
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Yeah, they are. As you know, we all saw that video, was it last week of hitting an oil refinery and blowing the top off I mean, that's 10 miles outside of Moscow. And that battle has become much more closer to home there. But they're gaining some ground in the Donbass in that region there, which is now virtually destroyed. Anyway, if you'll see videos of the drone tethers and the like, I mean, and the landmines that have been, that have been buried there and the like, it's a heroic victory at this point because the ground is virtually untenable. But drone warfare is now the name of the game. And my piece is that's going to be published tomorrow on record. Defense just talks about we got a little bit of a wake up call with that Apache getting shot down with a drone from the Iranians who can still swarm them. They can still take a $20,000 drone and had a $30 million helicopter by just swarming at it and just loitering until it finds a target. But then the second component to that is the fact that it was picked. A drone ends up rescuing autonomous vehicle, ends up rescuing the pilots in the water as well. So we're in a whole new state of warfare right now. But we need to get the economics again straight with regard to where Iran assists right now with their military capabilities in between what I'll call the bubbles, and that's this. There's nothing on that Apache that could have seen that drug because we were too busy trying to. Apache was designed to take out tanks in Eastern Western Europe. So we've got to gain more capability to make sure that these autonomous systems don't live inside the wire and autonomously and asymmetrically take out our capability.
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So as you wrote in your piece, the 20,000 drone that should wake up the Pentagon when that Apache went down, that's a roughly $20,000 drone taking down a roughly $30 million helicopter. Yeah, obviously you can't keep that up very long.
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No, and it was the same argument that was made months ago when our Patriot missiles were taking out the ballistic missiles coming from Iran. And same thing with Ukraine and Russia. The $100,000 ballistic missile taken out by a 4 to 5 to $6 million Patriot missile. In some cases the Navy Air defense systems, those AC3s, they are 30 and $40 million rockets, one at a time at one shot because they're designed to protect the carrier. They're not necessarily designed to take out one missile at a time. So again, the economics of this doesn't work. And we're going to have to be faster, procure better and develop systems that are going to take out These autonomous threats that are going to do nothing more than increase, and I'm more concerned about them even here in the United States. Look at that situation last week with the UFC fight. Right. Like a drone swarm here. I look at the stadium, you know, we have to develop not only things for the military. I was at West Point working with a bunch of cadets, and they're. They're developing these projects that'll help protect their platoons for drones. I look at them and says, we need to develop things to protect stadiums from drone swarms, because that's. That's the next threat. That's what's coming here.
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It's going to happen whether it's a terrorist attack or some, you know, militia group on the left or the right or whatever is going to pull off some sort of drone head that's going to really horrify people. There's something psychologically. I've watched a lot of these videos where these. The Russians are out in a field and they hear the drones coming and they start running and the drones catch up to them. You hear the. There's something psychologically more terrifying about that than if it was a guy chasing you with a gun.
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Yeah. You know, because you know it's going to hit. You know it's not going to stop. You know, that's the. It's just your time is up. I mean, it's really, you know, I guess in combat, the way to go is just, you know, that single bullet. Patton talks about that, about getting killed in combat, but that's not the case anymore. You're gonna see something loiter around and mess with your head before it finally decides to take you out.
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Well, I'm glad to hear that you and the military circles who think and talk about these things are talking about it as just like, domestic protection also, because that is clearly the future.
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Yeah. Dual use, I think, is what's happening here. And, you know, I'm working a lot more with innovative startup companies now to see not only help protect soldiers on the battlefield, but what's that capability going to do to protect our stadiums and protect crowds. And I think that's the next threat, whether we're going to live with it or not. It's like everything else. It's where the future is.
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Before I let you go, is there a mood among you guys who text and tweet and talk to each other of a little bit of despair for losing a war or. Where are you on this?
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No, I think it's the same. I don't want to call it cognitive dissonance. I won't go that far as to say that we're not real about it, but the military is just concerned that we think that we gave the President more better leverage than he's probably applied and maybe one more strike and a couple of different things. Look, you know, to say we were going to regime change from air power alone was never probably the case. But I don't mind. Keep going down a few more layers and we see how strong the irgc, their control is over the Iranians and over that country. And at 47 years, it's calcified at this point. And so but if this gets strung along, we just lose our patience. And JD Vance says, you know what, I've just had enough. I'm going home and we're just going to end it here. Trump didn't get his visual sign of victory, and I think that's what most concerns me. There's no real visual sign of victory, so I think that translates into defeat.
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Major Mike Lyons, that's how you follow him on Twitter. Anytime anything big military breaks, I always go there to see what he's going to say about it and his op ed tomorrow in real clear defense. Mike Lyons, thanks for your time today.
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Thanks, Jeff. Thanks for having me. Yeah.
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The future of this whole drone thing is so fascinating, but like we were talking about with that group of numb nuts who wanted to attack Trump's UFC fight there in the White House lawn, at some point, whether it's isis, Al Qaeda or some homegrown terrorist nut job, somebody's going to pull off a drone attack and that's going to change everything. All of a sudden we're going to spend be spending money all over the place protecting things from drones. It's inevitable, really. More on the way.
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So you had three socialist Mamdani backed candidates win against more establishment Democrats in primaries in New York City yesterday. And I normally think these, you know, somewhere in America a race people, I don't know, their issues are way overblown in terms of being national stories. But, but three Democratic socialists beating incumbent Democrats has got to mean something. And in some of the cases, like the one woman who WON, she believes 911 was America's fault. She's a Muslim woman, she believes 911 was america's fault because of our system of capitalism, racism, white supremacy and Islamophobia. You got this other guy, Goldman, who lost, he got kicked out of a coffee shop, Dan Goldman got kicked out of a coffee shop in Brooklyn because he's a Jew and took money from aipac, the Israeli lobby. You got, and this might be the same person as one of the others, but is for abolishing prisons. I mean some crazy, crazy stuff. What does this all mean? Well, let's talk to Gary Dietrich who we often talk to whenever we talk about politics. Gary, welcome to the Armstrong and Getty show.
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Hey Jack, good to talk to you again, buddy. And yeah, I think you're onto something here, Jack. I mean this is starting to get to be this whole sort of Democratic socialist. Maybe too early to call a wave, but it is certainly a trend line and believe me, political watchers are watching it closely. Most importantly those inside the Democratic Party itself and Mondani to many people, you know, okay, an outlier in New York City, whatever. But now you got three members of Congress who presumably, and by the way, all three of these districts, you hadn't mentioned this, but I know you're aware of this, are so Democratic leaning. These people who won these primaries as Democrats, they almost certainly are gonna be elected to Congress and there's gonna be three votes that Democratic leadership is gonna have to deal with in the House caucus, right?
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And if it ends up being really closely split, I mean, I Think the Democrats will have control. But if it's pretty close like it has been, and as we know, three votes can make a big difference, can hold up legislation and you gotta.
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Absolutely. And Jack, they can exert a lot of leverage. I mean, that's what we've seen with Mike Johnson trying to corral all his Republicans. Right. I mean, in other words, 3, 4, 5 votes blocked together can say, well, listen, you know, we're going to block this legislation unless you put this through. I mean, there's a lot that can happen. And of course, the biggest concern. I know you and Joe talk about this, the biggest concern amongst Democrats is what does this mean for the rest of us.
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In other words, do we get sort of called tarred and feathered with this? And are they gonna force us to make votes that we don't wanna have to make back in our districts? I mean, there's so many implications to this. You hit on something else I think that is really interesting about these races, Jack, and that is these underlying issues. For example, Goldman. Yes, you mentioned he's a Jew, but so is his opponent. But the problem was Goldman, as you rightly pointed out, took money from the Israeli lobby. The whole Israel support factor is becoming a real litmus test for or against inside the Democratic Party.
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Wow. And I don't remember which one of the socialists that won, but they put up Hakeem Jeffries on the screen and the crowd booed. They booed the guy that's most likely going to be speaker of the House here pretty soon.
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Well, and you rightly pointed out, I mean, this, the thing to me that was perhaps most telling about each of these races is that the. You call them the Democratic establishment. Hakeem Jeffries, you're right, Quite possibly going to be speaker of the House. Kathy Hochul, Governor of New York, in one case, even Attorney General Letitia James endorsed one of the candidates. And so you're talking the full weight of New York politics against these upstart socialists. And the Democratic Socialists won. Now, admittedly, AOC Bernie Mamdani were behind these candidates, but you're beginning to see the beginnings of something inside the Democratic Party that apparently is not just a flash in the pan, is not gonna go away, and is gonna be a challenge for them to deal with. By the way, one of these incumbents that lost was the actual chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, Right? So these aren't people who are just no names that got beat. These are people who are. Oh, and Goldman, by the way, an heir to the Levi Strauss Fortune, which, you know, you could say, well, that really helped him in terms of campaign financing. Yeah, but you heard in those leading comments that you played, Jack. You know, billionaires aren't playing well right now amongst certain elements of the Democratic Party.
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Well, and he ran the impeachment against Trump. You'd think he. Anyway, was it. Oh. So Mark Halpern was writing in his newsletter today that this kind of reminds him of the Trump takeover of the Republican Party.
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That.
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But the establishment Republican Party ignored a lot of discontent in the Republican Party until it got, you know, blindsided by Trump. And he makes the point that if the Democrat, the leadership, hadn't rigged the system, Bernie would have been their nominee in 16 and 20. I mean, they should have seen this coming. That's where the energy was. But because. So they were like, okay, we stopped Wordy. Phew, no problems here. Well, the problem still exists. The discontent in their party still exists.
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I think that's a really important point, Jack, that this is not just. And this was the problem, as you're pointing out, with the Trump thing, people. Oh, it's just Trump is flashing the pan. Whatever. No, this had been brewing for a while, and the people felt like Bernie was done dirty by his own party and rose in the polls, as you rightly point out. Many people thought he could have been the nominee quite easily. But there's been other things that people who are Democrats say, wait a minute. You guys are rigging the game and you're not listening to us. You're not paying any attention to us because you think we're going to be a net drag on your. Whatever, ability to take control of the House, whatever. But the problem now is this swell has been building. Mamdani is the most recent manifestation of it. But again, you put three members of Congress in there who are going to be speechifying every day on the House floor, casting votes, making demands, you know, and in these kind of districts, by all accounts, who knows how many times they could get reelected. They could create real challenges. Because you know what's gonna happen, Jack? This now is gonna be picked up by Republicans. They see, we told you this is what's coming. If you vote Democrat, they're gonna try to use the broad brush nationally to really, you know, scare people into saying, you want this in your neighborhood? Here's what's coming.
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Boy, what these two parties look like in 10 years is anybody's guess. Where does the working class finally end up? Is the Democratic Democratic Party officially the party of college graduates the way the Republican Party used To be. I have no idea.
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Well, the thing about New York that I think people need to remember is, you know, sort of I try to take a step back at this and look at not just politically, but a little sociologically and say, look, the people that they are appealing to, Bernie's constituency is one of his core audiences, as you know, has been young people. But how could this guy, people always ask, asking me, how could this really old guy attract him? Well, because he's scratching where they're itching. He's saying, look, you can't afford to buy a house in New York anywhere. In there you got jobs that are low paying and some AI and this, that, and the billionaires don't care about you. In other words, in a strange way, as your point now, Jack, there's a similarity between Trump's message of the elite rich people don't care about you and the Democratic socialist message, which in many ways is very similar.
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So switching gears as we broadcast from California, our governor is Gavin Newsom, and he is one of the leading, perhaps candidates to be our next president for the Democratic Party. Coming out of the Democratic side of things. How big a trouble is he actually in the, the California Post? You know, the New York Post now has the California Post. California Post has had several op EDS in a row that make it sound like Gavin and his wife are in actual trouble, like there's an actual scandal there. This just isn't lawfare from the Trump Justice Department. What are you hearing?
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Well, I think you're. That's important. There's two things I'd say right now about Gavin Newsom. First off, we know, yes, he's been running for president forever. Anybody who lives in California or even watches California knows that. And he's only got a few more months left to deal with his legislative business. And then, as I like to say, he's firing up the 28 bus and away they go. But the thing about it is, on what you're talking about, let's just stick for a second on the DOJ investigation, regardless of what is actually there. The thing about the DOJ at the federal level, as you know, Jack, they can wreak a lot of havoc. They can call a lot of people, they can do a lot of investigating, and this can take a long time. In other words, you know, beginning of next year, sooner than that, right after the November midterm election here, these campaigns for 28 are going to be revved up, up. And you don't want to be in the middle of what could easily be a year long or longer investigation where this, the drip, drip, drip of things and this person gets called in and these documents get subpoenaed. That's not what you want, not only for not winning the general election 28, but to win your own primary. And then on the other side of things, how about what Fareed Zakaria of CNN came out with? I don't know if you guys touched on this. We did in the last week, 10 days, an absolute evisceration of what he called failed governance in California. And you know, Jack went on for five or six minutes detailing all the issues that too, from a what would be considered to be typically a, you know, Democratic friendly kind of media outlet, that's problematic.
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So the piece in the California Post today is Gavin Newsom donors landed plum state posts after shelling out thousands to his PACs and his wife's nonprofit. And they've got, you know, it's pretty easy because you have to report all this stuff and then you can look at when they got hired. Donors who wrote big checks to Gavin Newsom's political action committees, campaigns and charitable causes, including his wife's, have frequently received gubernatorial appointments with some landing influential state posts days after the money arrived. I mean, so you got the check and then you get the job two days later.
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Well, and it didn't help him, as you know, Jack, that his former chief of staff has pled guilty to federal charges as it relates to the misuse of Xavier Becerra. Thank you. Our new Democratic candidate, as you know, going into the fall. So he's already had his chief of staff pled guilty. There's just too many planets swirling around his, you know, his son right now that, you know, are going to cast long shadows. There's no getting around that. And he's been out front as, you know, sort of in many polls either the leader, he's right up there with Kamala Harris and others in the early, early polling. But this is going to be used, this is going to be used as opposition research by the dozen or more opponents in his primary, let alone in a general election.
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So I was on a panel yesterday, a bunch of big wig political consultants in Sacramento at a fancy hotel. And I had to put on jacket and everything. Anyway, we were talking about influencers and AI ads and all that sort of stuff. And man, what a, what an interesting area that is. What is, what are the next couple elections going to look like? Like, you know, what we saw Spencer Pratt pull off where he can get any college kid with a little bit of knowledge of a computer to put together an ad that goes, you know, goes viral without spending any money.
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Yeah, this is, to me, Jack, the next step of the democratization small d of our political process. People thought it was a huge deal when all of a sudden presidential level candidates were raising millions and millions of dollars through tiny donors online. Remember when the online donation thing became a thing and you just didn't sit in smoke filled rooms and have fat cats write you half a million dollar checks and people are like, wow, this is going to really change politics. Well, to me now this is the next wave of that. No, you don't have to hire. Pratt showed this. You don't have to hire massively expensive, you know, consultants and PR firms, et cetera, to produce these ads or make
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Yeah. And you throw it up online, somebody produces it. Those, apparently the Pratt campaign didn't even pay for. Somebody just made them. So we are clearly moving in a brave new world. And of course that doesn't even include all the questions that come to the content of those ads, which with AI, that's kind of the wild wild west right now.
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Although we still recommend you make those major ad buys to whatever radio station you're listening to currently.
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Well, those aren't going to go away. And the reason is because. The reason is because, as you know, still the largest demographic of people that vote is middle aged to older age people. And yes, those people still very loyal radio listeners, as you know.
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Thank you very much, Gary. You just realized I, you know, hand bite, the one that feeds you that whole thing. Wanted to watch out for that. I don't even know what I'm supposed to label you as, Gary, before I let you go. What are you now? Other than a homo sapien?
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Yeah, I am a human. I am officially CBS television's political analyst based in Sacramento as well as iHeartRadio, both based out of Sacramento.
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Good. Good for you. Well, thanks for coming on. Appreciate it.
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Okay, buddy, we'll talk soon.
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Yeah. The conversation we had yesterday with all the political consultants and everybody's guessing with the AI stuff of where it's going is like trying to verify what's true. Somebody puts out a really great ad that's full of misinformation and you didn't have to pay them for it, they just made it and it went viral. Is there any stopping that? You don't have to have a paid for by the Johnson campaign because he didn't pay for it. And just how's that whole thing gonna work? Anyway, lots of stuff on the way. Stay here.
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