Limp Shrimp

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand — "Limp Shrimp"

Release Date: March 16, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty wade through the complicated geopolitics of the current conflict with Iran, its historical context, and Western responses past and present. The show takes several detours into the cultural implications of modern “wokeness,” spiritual voids in society, and the fallout for Europe and the U.S. They intersperse serious, sometimes heavy analysis with trademark irreverence and humor, ending with lighter moments discussing fast food, college basketball, and a few classic Armstrong & Getty bits. The running theme is how history, ideology, and international power intersect—and how easily fact and narrative diverge.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Tensions in the Middle East: Iran, the Strait of Hormuz, and the Western Response

(04:01–08:14, 28:32–38:44)

• Jack and Joe discuss ongoing efforts by President Trump to assemble a Western coalition to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran has attempted to close, threatening global oil supply.
  • Jack Armstrong: “Europe in particular is reeling...government debt in the UK and France is at or near the highest share of GDP in at least 60 years since WW2...They got no money to deal with it. So they're in terrible shape.” (04:13)
  • The hosts question the media narrative that the U.S. wasn't prepared for the strait's closure, countering that planning for scenarios like this is, in fact, standard military procedure.
• Joe Getty reflects on media impatience, reminding listeners that even a six-month war is a historical blip:
  • "If six months from now this comes to an end...six months in the overall course of history is nothing." (05:53)
• Jack and Joe dissect the futility of calls for “no war at any cost," citing Henry Kissinger to argue that stability comes from a willingness to confront aggressors.
  • Quote: “Whenever peace conceived as the avoidance of war has been the primary objective of a power...the international system has been at the mercy of the most ruthless members of the international community.” —[Joe Getty quoting Kissinger, 09:22]

2. Historical Context: Iran’s Long Quest for Nuclear Weapons

(08:32–12:03, 28:51–36:42)

• Jack walks through a detailed timeline of Iran’s nuclear ambitions, debunking the notion that Barack Obama “contained” Iran.
  • “The regime has been relentless, I should say, for decades in its quest for the bomb, which is why President Trump is weakening it by force.” (30:25)
  • He revisits missed opportunities by the U.S. and allies in the past, pointing out how appeasement and weak agreements (like the JCPOA) only masked Iran’s ongoing nuclear activity.
• Notable moment: Joe adds perspective on the apocalyptic motivations of Iran's religious leadership, contrasting them with other world powers:
  • "Putin's a lot of stuff, but he's not that. Neither Xi Jinping, and so far, not fathead in North Korea.” (35:47)

3. On Intervention, War, and the Logic of Power

(08:14–12:03, 36:10–38:44)

• Joe and Jack riff on the folly of pacifist slogans:
  • Joe: “If you have a 'War is not the answer' bumper sticker, you have just announced to me you're a moron.” (11:23)
  • Jack: “It's the answer sometimes.” (11:43)
• Analogy to WWII: They suggest that confronting Hitler early, despite costs, could have saved 50 million lives, relating this to present-day decision-making.

4. Spiritual Void and Wokeness in Western Society

(16:13–23:46)

• The hosts discuss a piece by Tom Klingenstein (“The Left and its Devil”) about how loss of religion has led people to fill their spiritual void with political ideology, especially on the left.
  • Joe reads: “Now that they have filled their empty spiritual jars with a bitter new wine, the woke ideologues will never be able to let go of their man made Satan...permanent enemies have become a therapeutic crutch.” (18:16)
• Joe: “We apparently are built to have a good and evil dichotomy in our brains. If you're not okay with the religious structure, you go with, well, sexists, racists, homophobes...as your devil. Woke and non-woke, in short.” (19:50)
• Jack points out the impact this mindset has on politics and discourse:
  • “…it’s impossible for them to come to an issue and give it a fair hearing because they already know where they're supposed to stand.” (21:52)
• Satirical suggestion: Move “woke” college students to “prison camp islands” as a gap-year program, poking fun at the extremity of cultural divides. (23:17)

5. Breaking News: Trump Staff Update

(23:46–24:17)

• Joe briefly breaks from the main topics to report that Trump’s chief of staff, Susie Wiles, has been diagnosed with breast cancer:
  • "She is a moderating influence on Donald Trump. I guarantee you, she's the voice of sanity...Could be a major part of history indeed." (23:53)

6. Humor, Media Framing, and Psyops

(39:05–41:10)

• The hosts turn to rumors and psychological warfare (psyops) about the new Iranian Supreme Leader’s sexuality and potency.
  • “They weren't trying to fix his limp shrimp. They were trying to convert him. Or at least get him horned off enough to have sex with his wife once so that he could have a kid. So she was his beard. The beard had a beard.” —Jack (39:55)
• Joe speculates on the efficacy of such rumors in undermining Iranian leadership:
  • “If it's psyops, that's a good one though. In a culture that they've got to get word out to the Revolutionary Guard. Look, he's gay. Are you gonna die on a hill for a gay guy in that culture?” (40:49)

7. Lighter Fare: Fast Food & March Madness

(45:05–47:31)

• Jack unveils new items on the Taco Bell menu with mock outrage:
  • “In keeping with their new slogan, Taco Bell: Death to America.” (45:17)
• The hosts riff on the absurdity of the name “Midnight Pie” and reminisce about the arrival of March Madness, poking fun at Duke basketball’s perennial dominance.
  • “I think we can all agree there’s not a worse year than when Duke is the number one seed… Can the government step in?” —Joe (46:15)
• Joe and Jack bemoan the absence of office camaraderie and bracket competitions:
  • “Camaraderie is dead.” —Jack (47:24)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On patience in war:
  “If six months from now this comes to an end with a good result...that’s a blip.”
  — Joe Getty [05:53]

• On dangerous pacifism:
  “Whenever peace conceived as the avoidance of war has been the primary objective...the system has been at the mercy of the most ruthless members of the international community.”
  — Henry Kissinger, read by Joe [09:22]

• On society's need for enemies:
  “The woke ideologues will never be able to let go of their man made Satan. It would mean returning to the abyss of meaninglessness that they struggled so hard to overcome.”
  — Read by Joe [18:16]

• On contradictions of activist movements:
  “Queers for Palestine is a bizarre notion...They hang gay people...the irony here is just too much. I can't join you in chanting yay, queers, vowels.”
  — Jack Armstrong [22:11]

• On the burden of modern gloom:
  “Camaraderie is dead.”
  — Jack Armstrong [47:24]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Strait of Hormuz & Iran conflict — 04:01 to 08:14, 28:32–38:44
• Europe’s energy & economic crisis — 04:13–05:53
• Lessons from Kissinger/historical non-intervention — 09:22–12:03, 36:10–38:44
• Origins of “wokeness” as religion — 18:16–21:58
• Satirical suggestions about woke youth — 23:17
• Trump’s chief of staff diagnosis — 23:46–24:17
• Iran leadership & psyops — 39:05–41:10
• Taco Bell and March Madness — 45:05–47:31

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Episode Tone and Takeaways

This episode blends grave analysis of Middle Eastern geopolitics with the lighter banter and biting satire that defines Armstrong and Getty. The tone switches seamlessly from serious (“We gotta wake up,” 35:27) to irreverent (“The beard had a beard,” 39:55), demonstrating their unique style. At heart, they challenge conventional narratives, express skepticism toward simplistic media framings, and warn against both pacifism and ideological fanaticism—whether abroad or at home.

Listeners walk away with:

• A historical primer on the Iran nuclear issue
• Insight into the current crisis through a lens that prizes both realism and skepticism
• Ample examples of how cultural and political obsessiveness can fill voids left by declining traditional values
• Classic A&G humor to brighten the heavy subject matter

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For more, listen to the full episode or catch their daily show at armstrongandgetty.com.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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As President Trump tries to expand a Western coalition to reopen the Strait of

[Jack Armstrong]

Hormuz, Iran is finding help of its

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own in China and Russia. Iran's foreign minister said the military cooperation

[Jack Armstrong]

with both countries continues the straight or do you say Straits of Hormuz continues to be one of the big, big stories connected with the the war with Iran right now, I'd say, and nobody's quite sure when and how it will end, which is not to say it won't, but it's going to take a while for sure. We discussed that pretty extensively. And was it hour one or two? I can't remember. Listen to them both. But Europe in particular is reeling from this for a number of reasons. Partly they're out of money. Government debt and borrowing costs were lower during Russia's invasion of Ukraine. They stacked up on money. They gave lots of benefits to help stimulate the economy. Today, borrowing costs are surging across the continent. Government debt in the UK and France is at or near the highest share of GDP in at least 60 years since WW2. Said essentially the Fed chairman of France, we don't have any more money. And then rising energy costs have threatened to accelerate de industrialization during a year when they were really hoping to invest and have more growth. Because Europe, you may recall us talking about this, finally realized that their zero, what's it called, net zero policies were ruinous to their economies. Just ruinous. Plus over regulation. But now this higher cost of energy and and interests has arrived and they got no money to deal with it. So they're in terrible shape.

[Joe Getty]

I am somewhat perplexed on this whole stray Armuz being closed temporarily on the planning for it or not. So I. There's tons of talk in the mainstream and left media about how they didn't plan for this, how could you not plan for this, blah blah, blah. And then talk on the right by a lot of my favorite smart people saying of course they planned for it and they're dealing with it. And it's been two weeks and how do you think wars work, you know, if six months from now this comes to an end with a good result, a less dangerous regime. Six months. Six months in the overall course of history is nothing. You launched a war that lasted six months. That's a blip. But for some reason the fact that it's lasted two weeks seems crazy by our modern attention spans.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. That's not to say blood and treasure don't matter over the course of six months. I know you didn't mean that, but yeah, of course, perhaps the plan was. Most experts don't think they'll close the strait because it would be too damaging to them. But if they do, we're going to have to deal with it. It'll probably take several months. I mean that is a plan. Combined with the fact the lack of an immediate resolution does not prove that there is no plan. It's a silly narrative and immediate.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, because it's been two weeks.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Combined with the. We have a once in a lifetime opportunity to take out the ayatollah and everybody beneath him. We have intel on that. Do we do it or not?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, we do.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was the decision, given the history of that regime. Yeah, I would agree. Which again, you know, I'm always throwing in disclaimers. That's not to say it might not go horribly wrong and we regret it. You just, you never know. But if you restrict what you do as a superpower, particularly a superpower that's gotten attacked over and over and over again by the same, same evil bastards. If you restrict your responses to only stuff, we're 100% sure how it's going to go. Obama, Biden, which declawed yourself as a world power.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, absolutely. I got something on that coming up a little bit later too from Henry Kissinger back in the day.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, there's gonna be a very thick

[Joe Getty]

intellectual hour, probably with some very childish like or 8 year olds jokes in between.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sounds good to me. And then the other thing is, you know, we don't really have time to go into this now, but if you actually go piece by piece, you know, episode by episode through the history of Iran trying to get nukes, because you remember some of the high points, if you're like me anyway, you remember some of the high points in a couple of the negotiations and you're reminded, oh yeah, that's right. Back in the early 2000s, we this and they that, you think, yeah, they definitely are looking for the bomb to wipe out Israel in the US if you go through the history, have it written out in front of you as I do, you're like, oh my God, we absolutely have no choice but to confront these people. When it's fleshed out how it's been a drumbeat over decades, it's, it's just

[Joe Getty]

a no brainer, right? That fits too well with this Kissinger stuff from, from Neil Ferguson's biography of Henry Kissinger who is the great statesman of the 60s 70s. Every president talked to him while he was alive. Every president from the 60s until Barack Obama, he writes in his book. Those ages which in retrospect seem the most peaceful were least in search of peace. Those who quest for it seems unending, appear least able to achieve it, achieve tranquility. For Kissinger, the practical significance of the era is that they perceived achievable stability then perpetual peace. Perhaps the most memorable, memorable lines in the entire book that he wrote, Kissinger wrote were whenever peace conceived as the avoidance of war has been the primary objective of a power or a group of powers, the international system has been at the mercy of the most ruthless members of the international community. Whenever the international order has acknowledged that certain principles could not be compromised even for the sake of peace, stability based on an equilibrium forces was, it was at least conceivable. So getting to what you were talking about with the Obama Biden view of just can't have any war, that's when you have the least peace. Yeah, Russia moving whatever the way they did. When you are willing to go to war over breaking various norms that we've decided that's when you have the most stability. Why doesn't everybody understand that? It seems quite obvious to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I realize I'm constantly dividing humanity into two groups of various descriptions, but here's another one. There are the people who understand that predators always predate, they will never stop. You just assume that because that's part of life. And there are those who think, well maybe we can get everybody to be nice. Those are the two groups.

[Joe Getty]

Well, there apparently is a group and they reached. They get into high levels of leadership. Sometimes they're President United States who believe the slogans like War is not the answer. That's just a dumb thing to say. If you have a War is not the answer bumper sticker. You have just announced to me you're a moron.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's the answer sometimes.

[Joe Getty]

Sometimes it's the answer. If you get invaded by a big bad country, what is your other option there?

[Jack Armstrong]

I always love it when somebody responds to the violence has never solved anything.

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[Jack Armstrong]

And then lists all the things that violence is solved.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Same. Same sort of emotion. I just. Yeah.

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I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I don't understand why that is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Coexist. Coexist.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, heard the best explanation for what the woke crowd is all about. It's a spiritual angle that I thought was really, really interesting. We can get to that coming up. Among other things.

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we proclaim our support for the Islamic Republic.

[Jack Armstrong]

Shame. Shame usa. Shame. Shame. US Day. Iran is the central pillar of the

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struggle against US imperialism and Zionism.

[Jack Armstrong]

Today, the Islamic Revolution in 1979 served as the catalyst of anti imperialism and anti occupation globally.

[Joe Getty]

So are these former. This is in New York over the weekend. Are these Iranians who were in favor of the theocracy or.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh no, no, they're young Marxists. All that colonial stuff, all that imperial stuff, that's all about neo Marxism.

[Joe Getty]

Okay that fits in with what I was about to talk about, which I find this really interesting. I love this sort of stuff. It's called, it's a piece written by Tom Clingenstein, the Left, and it's Devil. But it's, it's this idea that some people have that when a big chunk of western minds abandoned religion, it left them with a hole. Like a what, like a world, it's struggle. What is your worldview? What is your. How do you, how do you explain the way everything works if you don't have the, you know, devil versus God sort of, kind of view of things? I think it'll become more obvious what I'm talking about here. As I read this from the piece, I thought this was really interesting. Now that they have filled their empty spiritual jars with a bitter new wine. Okay, so that's for people who have empty spiritual jars, but it leaves a hole. You got to fill it with something. Now that they have filled their empty spiritual jars with a bitter new wine, the woke ideologues will never be able to let go of their man made Satan. It would mean returning to the abyss of meaninglessness that they struggled so hard to overcome. In the world of good versus evil that the left has invented, there will always be fascists, racists and sexists, for instance, to demonize because permanent enemies have become a therapeutic crutch. This is, this is why there can be no return to the old normal. A substantial portion of the country cannot live without perpetual war. The Left has given up its dream of the peaceful, rational society in favor of a constant mobilization against deplorable racists. It was a large price to pay. But endless war turned out to be preferable to the psychic horror of a life without purpose. So once you abandon the whole idea of you're living for God, or, you know, it doesn't have to be God, but some higher purpose, having kids, maybe raising them, everything like just you needed to have the, the enemy out there to be, well, fighting against and superior to. And, and so it's the racists, fascists, whatever, you know, the list of things, imperialists, all that sort of stuff. And that you're in permanent war with these people and there's, there's no satisfaction really there because a lot of it is made up. Um, but that's what drives them. And the idea that we cannot return to the. Oh, I didn't do a good job of setting this up. A friend of mine sent this to me out of the poll that we were discussing last week about how we're the only country in the world right now where a majority of the citizens think their fellow citizens are evil slash immoral. With the left really leading the way in that thinking. It's the, it's the whole we think they're wrong, they think we're evil thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And, and because you have to have, we apparently are built to have a good, evil, good and evil dichotomy in our brains. If you're not okay with the whole kind of religious structure of it, you go with, well, sexist racists, homophobes, whatever, you're gonna throw in there to the mix as your devil woke and non woke, in short.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's interesting. So your, your lifetime's quest. Certainly not reproduction or you know, raising a happy family and, and, and cuddling your grandkids, etc, which was eternal satisfaction enough for plenty of people. And it's not like striving for, you know, representative government or the natural rights of man versus oppression, blah blah, blah. It's the woke stuff, fighting against what you perceive. Well, and you're right, you're never going to be satisfied because a lot of things that are perfectly reasonable or even like better ideas are not going to go away. So you're going to spend your entire life fighting against meritocracy, for instance.

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Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because that's white supremacy or privilege or something. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know what it's like to, to be childless at this point and think of the world without the investment that you have if you have kids of wanting the world to continue to be a decent place to live for them. So I don't know quite what it looks like then.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you know, I'm old enough at this point and was weirdly aware enough of a lot of political and social issues as a kid. You didn't come at them, you didn't come at political issues through the lens of your religion because your religion was primarily a religious religion. It wasn't a sectarian policy judging other people religion. It was separate from politics to a huge extent. Whereas these people's religion is politics.

[Joe Getty]

Absolutely.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so it's impossible for them to come to an issue and give it a fair hearing because they already know where they're supposed to stand.

[Joe Getty]

Now that they have filled their empty spiritual jars with a bitter new wine, the woke ideologues will never be able to let go of their man made Satan. The fascist, racist, sexist imperialists. You know, all the stuff. We know all the stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. Well and I guess, I mean I try very hard to be a logical person. I think it's probably just the way I'm made. But I came across that screed that was trying to prevent anybody from admitting. All right, yeah, Queers for Palestine is a bizarre notion. Aren't we a bit of a parody over here? I mean, they hang gay people, they torture them, they rape them, then kill them. They hang them from cranes in the square in Tehran. The irony here is just too much. I'm afraid I can't join you in chanting yay, Yay, queers, vowels. But anyway, this piece was saying, never let them refocus you away from the colonial oppressors. They're trying to drive a wedge with that disinformation. Don't let them do it. And anybody who's coming at a problem logically would think, yeah, I don't care what their motivation is, they're right. But if you see them as apostates or heretics or whatever who are coming after your religion, that makes it super easy to turn off an argument before you even hear it. So I don't know, what do we do with those people? Round them off, Send them up to prison camp islands probably most likely go to the college campuses, tell them they're heading for a six weeks abroad stretch here. What do they call it, a gap year? Yeah, it's a gap year program. Government paid gap year. You serve a prison camp because of income inequality and you shipped them to a prison camp island.

[Joe Getty]

I think that's a decent. Yeah, we do have a breaking news thing. Maybe we can talk more about later. Trump just posted this. His chief of staff, Susie Wiles, has been diagnosed with breast cancer, is going to start her treatment. Everything like that. She is a moderating influence on Donald Trump. I guarantee you, she's the voice of sanity. Yeah, no question. So how much she'll be in his ear over the coming weeks or months as she battles her breast cancer. Could be a major part of history indeed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, she's an amazing gal, too. I hope she's all right. But we'll find out.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

administration destroying military targets on Iran's Kharg island, where nearly all of Iran's crude oil is processed. The Pentagon says the U.S. and Israel have struck some 15,000 targets inside Iran, reducing Iran's missile volume by 90% and its drone capability by 95%.

[Joe Getty]

If those numbers are accurate, that's pretty amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Unfortunately, I think it's like a lot of things in life, whether you're becoming a musician or whatever, as the percentages get lower, as you, you get higher and higher, each percentage gets more and more painstaking to either learn or wipe out or whatever. Anyway, we'll have to see, as we've reminded you a couple of times, we're roughly two weeks into trying to subdue a regime that is unquestionably bloodthirsty, evil and fanatical. And it might take a minute. And I was reminded by an absolutely wonderful piece written by, well, it's the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal. But, but they went through the history of the civilized world's efforts to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon because they have absolutely sworn they would use it as soon as they could on Israel or the Great Satan, or blackmail the world through the Straits of Hormuz, perhaps without fear of us being able to do much in the name of their absolutely insane religious zealotry. Because these People are serious. Weird Beard Jr. I'm sorry, Weird Beard Sr. Is really Khomeini, who was a serious cleric. He's not joking about this stuff. Khamenei, the second guy, again, hardcore religious fanatic and Weird Beard junior who may or may not have his beard and or both his legs and is in deep hiding. They really mean all this stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe gay, as we learned earlier.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a good point. Good point.

[Joe Getty]

Gay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, that was a joke. To get back to the Journal, so much of today's media framing of the Iran war relies on a mythology of what came before. The gist is that Iran was contained by Barack Obama until Donald Trump mucked it up, and now the regime will really pursue nuclear weapons. It's a pretty good summary. Naive is too kind a word for this deceptive partisan history. The real history is worth rehearsing because it shows that Iran's regime has been relentlessly for decades in its has been relentless, I should say, for decades in its quest for the bomb, which is why President Trump is weakening it by force. Worth mentioning, the Wall Street Journal editorial board kicks the hell out of Trump on occasion. They are no Trump fanatics. A good date to start is in 2002. And you know, we're skipping over the 1979 stuff and all, but when Israel helped expose Iran's Sukhlud secret nuclear sites at Natanz in Iraq, these are where the regime was pursuing a bomb via uranium and plutonium. That same year, Iran tested its design for a nuclear implosion device, all in violation of its nuclear non proliferation treaty obligations. So it already had a treaty. It violated them over and over again. In 2002, Iran denied wanting a bomb. And in 2007, a US National Intelligence Estimate reported with high confidence that Iran had ceased its organized effort to develop nuclear bombs in 2003, after the US invasion of Iraq. The worry in Tehran in 2003 was that it could be next. Iran's president called the report a gift from God. Others saw it as a politicization of intelligence to block George W. Bush from confronting Iran. That was the effect even as Iran helped kill 600 US soldiers and foment chaos in Iraq. Only later did we learn how misleading that intelligence finding was. The most conclusive evidence came in 2018, when Israel whisked Iran's secret nuclear archives out of Tehran. I remember that that was an unbelievable operation. They found them all in that warehouse and just took them anyway. The records prove that far from ending its nuclear weapons program after 2003, Iran decentralized and dispersed, but continues continued its activities with energy. Weaponization was concealed or pursued at universities when dual use civilian cover was plausible. In 2009, the US learned Iran had been building a facility deep under a mountain near Qam. Designed rich uranium to weapons grade. Again. Iran claimed its purpose was peaceful. But then why bury it and not tell inspectors until the US was onto it? This became the Fordow facility that the US bombed in June with special earth penetrating bombs. Enter Mr. Obama, who made a nuclear deal with Iran a top priority. The talks dragged on for years. Do you remember that? As Iran pressed forward with enrichment, repression at home and terror abroad. While Mr. Obama did little in response, the regime's negotiating goal was to win economic relief from sanctions while while preserving and legitimizing its nuclear program. Iran finally agreed to a deal in 2015 after a series of US concessions. The Obama team allowed enrichment and let Iran keep the infrastructure that could be used to reach weapons grade. When Iran felt the time was right, they successfully negotiated that in the Obama deal. Mr. Obama backtracked to let Iran operate at Fordow in Iraq and keep 5,000 centrifuges at Natanz. He gave up on anytime, anywhere inspections. Iran didn't even have to detail all of its past nuclear activities. The deal's restrictions would sunset after five, eight, nine or 15 years, depending on the provision. And it weakened restraints on Iran's missiles as well. In the deal's first week, Iran received $30 billion in sanctions relief. Qasem Soleimani, the Quds Force chief, immediately flew to Moscow and secured Russia's military intervention in Syria. Then the Revolutionary Guard arrested four Americans, held them for a trade. The deal did not change the regime's hostile behavior, and Iran kept building its proxy network. Trump quit the deal in 2018 and escalated sanctions. If he hadn't, Iran and its proxies would be more dangerous now. The regime would be legally advancing its nuclear program from position, a position of strength. And there's a little more to it. But the point is, anybody who says that Obama had contained Iraq is insane. They're completely wrong on the facts. Critics of Trump's bombing campaign says now say now it will motivate Iran to pursue nuclear weapons in earnest. But that's what it's been doing for years. Every time we've thought, no, they've come to heal, they haven't. Critics also say the IRGC will now steer the ship of state. But it's been doing that since the days of Mahmoud Ahmadina job. The Revolutionary Guards humiliation of Iran's President in recent days only lifts that venture. They are in charge and they want nukes. Always been true. Every time we thought it wasn't true, it turns out it was true. God, we gotta wake up.

[Joe Getty]

That would be a disaster for the world. But. And that was before I understood the power of the Strait of Hormuz. So if Iran had a nuclear weapon, they could have throttled back the straight of Hormuz anytime they wanted and say, okay, what are you going to give us to open this back up again? Otherwise we're going to keep a close. And there'd been nothing the world could have done.

[Jack Armstrong]

And unlike the other superpowers, even Putin, for God's sake, if they started to rattle in their nuclear saber, they'd use it. They're apocalyptic religious fanatics. Putin's a lot of stuff, but he's not that neither. Xi Jinping

[Joe Getty]

and so far, not fathead in North Korea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah,

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Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Troubled times. Sometimes really, really hard things have to be done. Oh, my God, that is hilarious. I was just asking Siri the total number of deaths in World War II. I said, WW2. And it started to give me a couple of people that have died in the wwe, the World Wrestling people.

[Joe Getty]

So the first number is around 50 million. The second number is probably three.

[Jack Armstrong]

Three people.

[Joe Getty]

Macho man.

[Jack Armstrong]

Randy Savage once broke his arm. Good Lord. And who knows, you know, this could go badly. You're going to scare us with World War three scenarios. Maybe tomorrow. It'll still be horrifying tomorrow. But imagine if Britain and France in particular, in particular, in particularly had decided, you know, it's going to cost us several hundred lives. But we've got to confront Hitler's war machine now. When he invaded the Sudetenland, for instance, or violated some other treaties, it could have prevented the loss of 50 million lives. It's a quagmire. It's taken two weeks. There was no plan, reports the LA Times.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of the British and French efforts. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So Trump said that he's got seven countries that are willing to escort ships through the Strait of Hormuz. He didn't name them and they have not come out and named themselves. So I don't know if that was the old salesperson presumptive clothes that he's doing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure. They said, yeah, we'd be willing to talk to you about it. And he said, yep, they're on the line, they're ready to go.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know how this particular portion of this ends. As I quoted somebody earlier, it has to include Iran willingness to open back up because it would only take a couple of guys with ill intentions to blow up an oil tanker. And so you have to have Iran's buy in on this. It's almost impossible because of the way the straight is. You know, if you've looked at the map, the way it curves around that. So yeah, if that's true, if you have to negotiate some sort of settlement around this to open back up, it's the only way you can do it. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, there's two ways to get their agreement. Negotiation and pummeling.

[Joe Getty]

Well, we're going to have to pummel them into wanting to negotiate. I don't know at what point who, who's going to, who's going to, to be in charge to say we give, we surrender. I don't know who can be that person.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you're calling for the old pnn, the old pummel negotiating. That's the Armstrong plan.

[Joe Getty]

So the one legged, perhaps blind, less gay, impotent, blind, limp, new.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, Austere scholar, new Ayatollah is going

[Joe Getty]

to be the person to make the call if this is a psyops, by the way, that he's gay and impotent, that this is a great one for their particular culture. That's just awesome.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'd open every negotiation with still got that missile problem, Ayatollah. What missile problem? Are you referring to my genitals? And he'd stomp out of the room.

[Joe Getty]

More pummeling.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here we go.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, if you didn't hear us talking about it. Apparently in a briefing recently, Trump was told that, that our intelligence believes the new Supreme Leader is gay.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that's why his papa didn't want him to succeed him, because he knew it would come out. Plus we were trying to figure out what the hell treatment for impotence is there that you spend two weeks in a hospital. They weren't trying to fix his limp shrimp. They were trying to convert him. Or at least get him horned off enough to have sex with his wife once so that he could have a kid. So she was his beard. The beard had a beard.

[Joe Getty]

I'll bet that's what they did when, when he finally was able to consummate his marriage. They got a bunch of Chippendales dancers in there dancing around and grinding on a pole or something. He stared at them until he got worked up and then closed his eyes and pretended she was Harry Styles.

[Jack Armstrong]

They showed him lots of videos of really manly looking chicks. Thought just, just memorize this picture. All right, just, just, just pretend we can only even has a low voice.

[Joe Getty]

We can only assume this is true. But if it's psyops, that's a good one though. In a culture that they've got to get word out to the Revolutionary Guard. Look, he's gay. Are you gonna, you gonna die on a hill for a gay guy in that culture? No. Or it might be true. It certainly just could plain and be true.

[Jack Armstrong]

It sounds true.

[Joe Getty]

It fits pretty well.

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[Joe Getty]

We will finish strong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Next, we're going to interview Eric Weihan,

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mayor, who climbed the highest mountain in the world, Mount Everest. But he's gay.

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I mean, he's gay.

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Excuse me, he's blind. So we'll hear about that coming up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, as we head to the break, a look at the six o' clock

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Your subconscious pays full attention.

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So relax, let it take over.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Taco Bell's announced new additions

[Joe Getty]

to their menu including Diablo Dusted Chicken

[Jack Armstrong]

Nuggets and Mountain Dew Baja Midnight Pie. In keeping with their name new slogan

[Joe Getty]

Taco Bell Death to America.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's funny.

[Joe Getty]

Can you play that again? I want to hear those ingredients and focus on it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Taco Bell's announced new additions to their

[Joe Getty]

menu including Diablo Dusted Chicken Nuggets and

[Jack Armstrong]

Mountain Dew Baja Midnight Pie. In keeping with their new slogan Taco Bell Death to America

[Joe Getty]

Midnight Pie. I'm not exactly sure what that is.

[Jack Armstrong]

The name of a food should give you at least some idea of what you're putting in your mouth. Yeah, that could be anything.

[Joe Getty]

I need to prepare my mouth for a sur for a certain flavor and I have no idea what this is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Midnight Pie apparently it's passion fruit and Lime soda pie. So it's midnight, as in I'm stoned and I'm going to eat something incredibly ill advised.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've never heard a time reference attached to a baked good before.

[Joe Getty]

Sports note. And March Madness is about to begin. If you're into college basketball and I live in a part of the country where people aren't, but I've lived in many parts of the country where it's like the biggest thing of the year, March Madness in college basketball. And I think we can all agree there's not a worse year than when Duke is the number one seed. So, yeah, so abd anybody but Duke, they are the number one seed in the entire country. What can be done about that? This guy. Can the government step in or there's got to be some sort of. Well, let's go.

[Jack Armstrong]

We got some super rich alums who can now just out and out buy great young basketball players for a year, millions of dollars.

[Joe Getty]

Because that's the modern college basketball is you're. You get a whole bunch of. You get the hot freshmen and then they go to the NBA. Duke though, your top four seeds, if you're filling out a bracket. Duke, Arizona, Michigan, Florida. All names familiar with the being, you know, number one seeds. No doubt about that. We don't do brackets around here anymore. Cuz I think we've lost the capacity for joy in our workplace for some reason.

[Jack Armstrong]

Camaraderie is dead.

[Joe Getty]

Camaraderie is dead. Yes. Get over it. Spree decor is in a coffin. Check your clock.

[Jack Armstrong]

Time to stop Jack and Joe, they've gotta go. And if they don't, you can.

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They'll be back tomorrow.

[Joe Getty]

Here's your host for Final Thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. The official slogan of the Radio Ranch is what the hell's the point? All right, let's get a final thought from everybody on our cheery, upbeat Go Getter crew to wrap up the show for the day, beginning with Michelangelo and the Controller. My. I keep thinking of the movie Planes, Trains and Automobile and dealing with our executive producer, Mike Hanson. He's trapped back there is one degree. I'm wondering if he's got to share a hotel room with a stranger and ride a pickup across the country to get back.

[Joe Getty]

There you go.

[Jack Armstrong]

Couldn't be better. Get back to work. You'll be fined. Every day is missing Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman. As a final thought, Katie, I've picked up so many good insults working with you guys and my new one from today is Limp Shrimp Rim. Yeah, that's Jax. I stole it. And Jack, a final thought for us.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'm just going to tease the One more thing podcast Interesting poll of tons of people on their attitudes of if your marriage is struggling, what you should do. Huge change in recent years. That is. Well, it's worth talking about.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my final thought is had a nice time helping out a fundraiser for breast cancer research last night. Interesting coincidence that Susie Wilds has announced her diagnosis, but figure out what you can do to help a good cause. It makes you feel good and it sure helps them. It made me feel good Armstrong and

[Joe Getty]

Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

So many people. Thanks a little time. Go to armstrongandgetty.com we have a lot of great stuff like the Hot Links DNG Swag store. Get yourself some a G swag sporting proudly in defiance of the woke in the newsomites.

[Joe Getty]

Fantastic. We will see tomorrow. God Bless America.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Nobody can make nice or think twice about what they're saying in a time like this. Just know you got two friends, Jack and Joel the Armstrong and G.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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