Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Episode: "Little Fat Here, Little Fat There"
Date: September 30, 2025
Overview
In this episode, Armstrong & Getty delve into U.S. military readiness and cultural controversy, with a special focus on a fiery speech by Secretary of War Pete Hegseth aimed at refocusing the military on war preparedness and eliminating ideological distractions. The hosts discuss the consequences of "woke" culture in the armed forces, shifting U.S. support for Israel, the proliferation of online conspiracy theories, and touch on recent social media controversies. The episode weaves together sharp commentary, memorable quotes, and timely analysis, maintaining Armstrong & Getty's signature irreverent and provocative style.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Pete Hegseth's War Department Speech and Military Readiness
(00:30–13:49)
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Origins and Purpose of the Speech
- Pete Hegseth, in a historic move, convenes all top military leaders for a rousing, almost corporate-style "pep talk" in D.C., aimed at refocusing on warfighting rather than social or ideological priorities.
- Hegseth echoes ancient military philosophy: "To ensure peace, we must prepare for war." (Pete Hegseth, 00:30)
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Trump's Reaction to Hegseth
- Trump praises Hegseth's speech effusively, even joking, "It was too good. He wants to fire him... I don't want to go on after that." (Jack Armstrong relaying Trump, 00:50)
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Critique of Military Culture and Focus
- Hosts lament the prior trend of treating the military as a "progressive jobs program," lacking focus and discipline:
- "It needed an ass whooping. That's what this sounds like. Pardon my French, folks." (Michael, 01:48)
- Discussion of how recent military leadership has sometimes prioritized ideology or diversity over merit and war preparedness.
- Hosts lament the prior trend of treating the military as a "progressive jobs program," lacking focus and discipline:
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Hegseth’s Key Messages (Direct Quotes):
- "From this moment forward, the only mission of the newly restored Department of War is this: war fighting, preparing for war and preparing to win. Unrelenting and uncompromising in that pursuit." (Pete Hegseth, 03:06)
- Critique of past promotions: "We’ve promoted too many uniform leaders for the wrong reasons. Based on their race, based on gender quotas, based on historic so-called firsts... We became the Woke department. But not anymore." (Pete Hegseth, 05:42)
- Rejecting "DEI, dudes in dresses, climate change worship" and promising a military focused purely on combat capability: "No more identity months, DEI offices, dudes in dresses. No more climate change worship." (Pete Hegseth, 06:45)
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Host Responses
- Jack: "That is good stuff. I can’t wait to see the way this is handled on the lefty media." (06:28)
- Michael: "No more DEI offices. The military, in my opinion, shouldn’t spend a dollar or a moment worried about climate change. Worry about China and their military, period." (07:33; Jack, 07:46)
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Debate Over Military Standards
- Hegseth invokes the "Golden Rule Test" for standards in military units, rejecting lowered standards for diversity or ideological reasons.
- "Would you want him serving with fat or unfit or under trained troops... The answer is not just no. It’s hell no." (Pete Hegseth, 09:06)
- Hosts briefly debate tech roles vs. combat standards (Jack: "I’m all for fat drone operators if that’s what it takes." 10:28; Michael: "But how about don’t call them a fat pig?" 10:36)
- Hegseth invokes the "Golden Rule Test" for standards in military units, rejecting lowered standards for diversity or ideological reasons.
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Final Word on Standards
- Hegseth: "Standards must be uniform, gender neutral and high. If not, they’re not standards, they’re just suggestions. Suggestions that get our sons and daughters killed." (Pete Hegseth, 11:30)
2. Culture & Social Media Controversies
(14:30–18:19)
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Band Announcer's Comment and Apology
- Florida A&M band announcer sparks a social media firestorm with a joke about the ASU Honeybees (plus-sized dance troupe) being "the new face of Ozempic."
- "The band announcer posted on Facebook that the ASU Honeybees... was ‘the new face of Ozempic.'" (Michael, 16:38)
- Over-the-top apologies and online outrage are lampooned by the hosts, with Armstrong mockingly describing excessive atonement: "I plucked out one of my own eyes to show how ashamed I am." (Jack Armstrong, 17:29)
- Florida A&M band announcer sparks a social media firestorm with a joke about the ASU Honeybees (plus-sized dance troupe) being "the new face of Ozempic."
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Cultural Observations
- Jack reminisces about college football chants and the irreverent American spirit: "That is some really great America stuff right there. More of that. Less politically correct." (Jack Armstrong, 17:53–18:19)
3. Middle East Peace Plan & U.S. Political Realignment
(18:28–29:19)
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Announcement of Trump-backed Gaza Peace Plan
- Unprecedented broad support across political lines for a new Gaza/Israel peace proposal, with everyone from NPR to Fox News expressing optimism.
- "You got a group of people that are backing this idea that never come together on anything." (Jack Armstrong, 19:18)
- Plan involves phased Israeli withdrawal, apolitical Palestinian governance, and oversight by an international board (with Trump as chairman).
- Unprecedented broad support across political lines for a new Gaza/Israel peace proposal, with everyone from NPR to Fox News expressing optimism.
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Conditionality and Threats
- Netanyahu's warning: "If Hamas refuses to accept, then Israel will finish... the job by itself. This can be done the easy way or it can be done the hard way, but it will be done." (Benjamin Netanyahu, 20:43)
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Skepticism Over Lasting Peace
- Michael: "Hamas is dedicated to the destruction of Israel, period. If they agree to this, it’s only because it’s their last option." (21:45)
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Shifting American Public Opinion
- Dramatic drop in U.S. support for aid to Israel:
- "A majority of American voters now oppose economic and military aid to Israel, a stunning reversal in public opinion since the October 7 attack..." (Jack Armstrong, 23:19)
- Young Americans especially critical—"college kids or a lot of that poll, and that’s what their college teachers are telling them." (Jack Armstrong, 24:35)
- Dramatic drop in U.S. support for aid to Israel:
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Rise of Anti-Israel Conspiracy Theories
- Hosts discuss MAGA/right-wing influencers (Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, etc.) now turning on Israel, echoing anti-semitic conspiracy tropes.
4. The Digital Age of Conspiracies: Gnosticism & Anti-Semitism
(29:19–37:35)
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Modern Gnosticism and Online Influencer Dynamics
- Josh Apple’s analysis: "What we’re witnessing is a digital form of Gnosticism... Today’s online truth seekers believe malevolent forces control the visible world... Modern Gnostics believe in what is deliberately hidden." (Michael, quoting Apple, 33:41–34:50)
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Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson’s Audience
- Candace Owens pushes anti-Israel narratives to millions. The hosts note the rapid proliferation and monetization of “secret knowledge” online.
- "Candace Owens has 7.2 million followers... They're almost all about how Israel's controlling everything, including Trump." (Jack Armstrong, 35:56)
- Candace Owens pushes anti-Israel narratives to millions. The hosts note the rapid proliferation and monetization of “secret knowledge” online.
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Critique of Conspiracist Thinking
- Michael: "This isn't healthy political discourse. It's spiritual pathology masquerading as analysis... You only need to know the right secrets." (36:24)
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Historical Context of Anti-Semitism
- Armstrong reflects on how blaming the Jews is a persistent Western trope: "I've never quite understood it... It's just been a part of Western Civ for a very long time, for whatever reason." (Jack Armstrong, 37:05)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On the purpose of military strength:
- “To ensure peace, we must prepare for war.”
— Pete Hegseth (00:30)
- “To ensure peace, we must prepare for war.”
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On the military’s past cultural drift:
- “We became the Woke department. But not anymore.”
— Pete Hegseth (05:42) - “No more DEI offices, dudes in dresses. No more climate change worship. No more division distraction or gender delusions.”
— Pete Hegseth (06:45)
- “We became the Woke department. But not anymore.”
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Gaza peace plan consensus:
- “You got a group of people that are backing this idea that never come together on anything.”
— Jack Armstrong (19:18)
- “You got a group of people that are backing this idea that never come together on anything.”
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Skepticism of new allegiances:
- "I have no idea what's going on with Tucker. I really don't. ...he's either lost his mind or has become completely wildly cynical."
— Michael (26:49–27:04)
- "I have no idea what's going on with Tucker. I really don't. ...he's either lost his mind or has become completely wildly cynical."
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Modern conspiracy thinking captured:
- “Modern Gnostics believe in what is deliberately hidden. ...Watch this video, listen to this podcast, read this thread, and you'll be awakened to secret truths.”
— Michael (34:41–34:50)
- “Modern Gnostics believe in what is deliberately hidden. ...Watch this video, listen to this podcast, read this thread, and you'll be awakened to secret truths.”
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Satirical take on social media apologies:
- “I plucked out one of my own eyes to show how ashamed I am.”
— Jack Armstrong (17:29)
- “I plucked out one of my own eyes to show how ashamed I am.”
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 00:30–13:49 — Pete Hegseth’s military speech, reaction, and critique of “woke” culture
- 14:30–18:19 — Band announcer social media firestorm, American cultural commentary
- 18:28–29:19 — Trump’s Gaza peace plan, shifting U.S. sentiment toward Israel, influence of right-wing influencers
- 29:19–37:35 — Digital Gnosticism, conspiracy culture, online anti-Semitism, and its historical roots
Tone and Style
The episode maintains Armstrong & Getty’s blend of biting humor, skepticism, and cultural conservatism. The hosts punctuate serious policy discussion with satire, cultural observations, and frequent jabs at ideological excesses across the spectrum. Their engagement with social media controversies and conspiracy theories is both critical and mocking, reflecting wariness of both left and right-wing extremism.
For listeners seeking bold analysis of military affairs, media narratives, and the wild world of online political culture—this episode delivers pointed, opinionated, and at times, darkly comic commentary.
