Livin' Like A Caveman!

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Livin' Like A Caveman!"
Date: February 17, 2026
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty (with Katie Green)

Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong & Getty take listeners on a wide-ranging ride through topics including Olympic highs and lows, the mental pressures of elite athletes, peculiarities of Norway’s youth sports system, an analysis of a recent mass shooting and its coverage, and deep uncertainties about AI’s future impacts—with a special focus on Elon Musk’s dystopian optimism. They blend humor, skepticism, and their signature conversational style as they debate everything from malfunctioning microwaves to the existential meaning of work in an AI-driven future.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Olympic Recap: Pressure, Victory, and How Norway Dominates

• Quad God Choke:

  • Opening with discussion of the “Quad God” figure skater who, despite being the favorite, fell multiple times and finished eighth.
    • "He did lots of interviews afterwards and just said, I choked. I just, I couldn't handle the pressure." — Jack Armstrong [03:10]
  • Joe sympathizes: “Wow. A guy who's competed at his level...The Olympics are a special beast.” [03:27]

• USA Hockey Teams:

  • Anticipation for probable US vs. Canada gold medal matches.
  • Contentious players: Kachuk brothers and Abby Murphy noted for their “instigator” styles.
    • "I'm a little conflicted. I like winning. I'm a little conflicted." — Joe Getty [05:16]

• Bobsled Gold & Oldest Winter Olympian:

  • Recognition of Elena Myers Taylor, gold medalist and the oldest individual Winter Olympian at 40.
    • "After that, will you just sit in there and hope not to die?" — Jack Armstrong (about bobsled driving) [05:51]

• Experiencing G-Forces via SNL’s Colin Jost:

  • Jack and Joe play and react to Colin Jost’s bobsled ride, marveling at the intensity ("I truly thought my body was going to break apart." — Colin Jost [06:48]), leading into a riff on the lunacy of skeleton and sports mortality.

• Norwegian Youth Sports Model:

  • Joe summarizes a TV feature on why Norway excels: kids can’t keep score until age 13, no youth specialization allowed, and state-sponsored Olympic development after national talent testing.
    • “Their youth sports are the opposite of the United States. They don't even keep score until they're 13.” — Joe Getty [07:53]
    • Over-specialization in American sports is decried; both hosts bemoan injuries among young athletes and the lack of fun and breadth (e.g., “Getting effing Tommy John surgery” at 16 — Joe Getty [08:49]).

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2. Mass Shooting Coverage & Social Trends

• Rhode Island Hockey Rink Shooting:

  • The hosts address a tragic shooting involving a trans woman, Robert Dorgan/Roberta Esposito. Jack and Joe are critical of the media’s lack of investigative curiosity about this demographic’s overrepresentation among recent mass shooters.
    • “It's now astronomically high, especially given the small percentage of folks who claim to be quote, unquote, transgender.” — Joe Getty [16:13]
    • “The militant gender theory thing was just part of his crazy.” — Joe Getty [17:53]
  • The episode touches on the shooter’s mental health, estrangement from family, history of Nazi social media posts, and complex divorce.

• Media, Mental Health, and Social Impact:

  • The hosts criticize mental health approaches and ‘gender-affirming’ care for children, relaying concerns from skeptical doctors about irreversible changes.
    • “We need a proper investigation into the risks of giving people large doses of the wrong sex hormone, among other problems.” — Joe Getty [17:53]
  • Jack and Joe draw parallels to other unlikely mass shooter demographics, underlining what they see as media inconsistency or neglect.

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3. Daily Life & "Caveman" Commentary

• Microwaves: Fragility & Modern Convenience:

  • Jack laments a workplace microwave destroyed in anger and his own household microwave dying, leading to a wry comparison:
    • “Just like living like a caveman.” — Jack Armstrong [20:09]
  • Discussion about modern impatience: “We live in an era where people pace back and forth impatiently in front of a microwave.” — Joe Getty (citing their old boss) [21:13]

• Nostalgia for 2016 & Tech Frustrations:

  • Jack highlights how young people are nostalgic for 2016 social media, while he himself becomes annoyed at Grok’s sluggish AI responses:
    • “My grock is slow. Every question I've asked Grok, in the last weekend, it must have taken 30 seconds...seems crazy to wait that long.” — Jack Armstrong [21:42]

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4. AI Anxiety & Elon Musk’s Radical Predictions

• AI’s Impact on Entertainment:

  • Explaining ByteDance’s new video generator and how it’s upending Hollywood. Joe relays the dread among screenwriters:
    • "'I hate to say it, it's likely over for us.'” — Brett Reese, quoted by Joe Getty [26:26]
  • Hosts debate whether AI movies/superhero flicks will matter to average viewers, apart from displacing VFX artists.

• Companion Bots & the Eeriness of AI Intimacy:

  • Jack tries interacting with a ‘companion bot’ and finds the experience disturbing:
    • “I didn't push its limits to see how far it was willing to go.” — Jack Armstrong [28:30]
    • Katie and Joe describe bots’ uncanny conversational tone, with Katie noting, “Oh, and it told me to come here again, which almost made me chuck…” [29:28]

• Elon Musk’s "Don’t Save for Retirement" Clip:

  • The hosts play and dissect Elon Musk’s prediction that retirement savings will be obsolete in an AI economy:
    • “Don't worry about like squirreling money away for retirement. In like 10 or 20 years, it won't matter.” — Elon Musk [31:20]
    • Jack’s dry response: “A guy with three quarters of a trillion dollars...telling me I don't need to save for retirement?” [33:09]
  • Discussion centers on the “whole ball game”—how resources will actually be distributed, and skepticism whether future abundance will erase inequality or human striving.

• The Singularity: Unknowable & Imminent?

  • Elon argues rapid AI self-improvement makes future predictions impossible:
    • “The way this unfolds is fundamentally impossible to predict because of self improvement of the AI and the accelerating timeline. Yeah, it's called singularity for a reason.” — Elon Musk [35:04]
  • Jack & Joe riff on the possibility of sudden, runaway change, likening the current moment to cresting a roller coaster before the big drop.
    • “We're just...at the top of the roller coaster and you're about to go.” — Jack Armstrong [36:46]

• Human Purpose in an AI Era:

  • Questions raised about kids’ need to learn, declining reproduction, and meaning without work.
    • “God, will my kids ever have a job? Maybe they'll be the first generation to never have a job at all. Because there aren't any.” — Jack Armstrong [39:09]

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5. Food, Health, and Tomorrow’s Teaser

• Ultra-Processed Foods as the New Tobacco:
  • Joe and Jack tease an upcoming 60 Minutes segment that frames ultra-processed food as potentially more dangerous than tobacco.
    • “Ultra processed food is like the worst idea humans have ever come up with...might be the whole obesity thing.” — Jack Armstrong [43:10]
  • Notable advice: “If it's got a million ingredients, don't eat it.” — Joe Getty [44:19]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Handling Failure:

  • “I thought it was pretty cool that he…just said, I choked…All of the pressure flooded into my head when I was standing out there and I, like, I couldn't feel my feet.” — Jack Armstrong [03:10]

• On American Youth Sports:

  • “You got to play baseball year round. You're 16 years old. Getting effing Tommy John surgery.” — Joe Getty [08:49]
  • “Everybody knows this. Playing that variety of sports makes you better at your one sport. Over-specialization is not good…” — Joe Getty [09:09]

• On Companionship with Bots:

  • “It is flipping disturbing. Yes, Katie.” — Jack Armstrong [29:02]
  • “Just the tone and I mean it is so real.” — Joe Getty [29:14]

• On AI and Human Purpose:

  • “Are we all going to have this exactly the same size house, driving the same value car, eating the same quality of food and be okay with it?” — Jack Armstrong [33:52]
  • “I do wonder when they...Have you ever actually talked to one of them?” — Jack Armstrong (on companion bots) [28:15]

• On Raising Kids in the AI Age:

  • “What are you supposed to be encouraging your kids to do other than be nice to other people? Maybe that's the best you can do.” — Jack Armstrong [37:30]

• On The Singularity:

  • “We're just...at the top of the roller coaster and you're about to go.” — Jack Armstrong [36:48]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro & Olympic Figure Skating: 02:32 – 04:19
• Norway’s Youth Model: 07:53 – 10:21
• Mass Shooting Tangent: 14:25 – 19:48
• Microwave “Caveman Living” Bit: 20:09 – 21:04
• 2016 Nostalgia & AI Frustrations: 21:26 – 22:15
• AI in Entertainment (Sea Dance 2.0): 25:56 – 27:12
• Companion Bots Discussion: 28:12 – 30:43
• Elon Musk Retirement Clip & Debate: 31:20 – 33:52
• The Singularity & AI Acceleration: 35:04 – 37:23
• Society Without Purpose/Work: 39:09 – 39:32
• Ultra-Processed Foods Warning: 43:10 – 45:10

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Tone and Flow

True to Armstrong & Getty’s style, the episode bounces between wry humor, skepticism, and genuine concern—whether about troubled athletes, the future of work, or just a smashed office microwave. The conversation style is rapid-fire and occasionally irreverent, balancing serious critique (especially regarding media and technology) with sarcasm and everyday anecdotes.

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Final Thoughts

• Jack calls for a return to more meaningful, healthy living and warns against complacency.
• Joe vents about pointless meetings and wasted time: “This is an experiment to see how quickly it can make me insane.” [46:38]
• Both hosts ponder whether their children’s generation will ever need to work and mock the predictions of both nuclear and AI-generated apocalypse.

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If you missed the show, this episode delivers a classic Armstrong & Getty blend of cultural commentary, current events, and a healthy dose of existential angst about the future—plus a few laughs at the absurdity of our tech-obsessed, microwave-dependent times.

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[Jack Armstrong]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty. So in case you weren't watching the Olympics, we've talked about the quad God, a fair amount. Greatest figure skater ever, etc. Etc. Etc. And he fell on his sparkly hind end several times and finished eighth. One of the biggest chokes in the history of big, you know, very, very top level sports. I mean, really, really right up expectations to execution.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Terrible. Bad for the kid.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I like the way he handled it. I thought it was pretty cool that he, I mean, he, he did lots of interviews afterwards and just said, I choked. I just, I couldn't handle the pressure. I couldn't handle the moment. I wasn't ready for it. I just, all of the pressure flooded into my head when I was standing out there and I, like, I couldn't feel my feet.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. A guy who's competed at his level.

[Katie Green]

All over the world.

[Joe Getty]

The Olympics are a special beast.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it, Yeah, I can't, I can't quite understand it because, I mean, they do World cup this and Pan Am that, and they all, it's all the same people competing. It's not like these people just meet for the first time at these events. They all know each other well. And he'd beaten everybody. 14 international competitions in a row, which is stunning. You wouldn't think that'd be possible. And he didn't even need to skate well to win the gold medal. He was so far ahead. He only needed, like, I don't know that much about scoring, but he only needed like a 170. He, his, his, his lows are in the 200s, like when he does poorly. So it just, you just need to go out there and stay on his feet basically, to win the gold medal. And he didn't.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it was something else.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, our hockey teams are really doing well. Our, our girls are killing everybody out there and play on Thursday. So it looks like United States is going to meet Canada for the women and the men for gold medal probably. So that'll be exciting to watch later this week.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'm, I'm a little conflicted. I'm a big hockey fan. I used to play. I love the game. But because the men are led by the Kachuk brothers, who are both pricks, you know, they're instigators. They get in your, your, your face, they put a glove in your face trying to get you to react. They're also really, really good hockey players. And Abby Murphy, who's a miraculously good hockey player for the US Women's team, is also that sort of player who gets in your shorts and pisses people off and provokes them and the rest of it. I mean, we're a superpower.

[Jack Armstrong]

Can we.

[Joe Getty]

Can we. Let's class it up a little bit. I realize we're talking hockey, but like I say, I like winning. I'm a little conflicted.

[Jack Armstrong]

So. We won a gold medal in the female bobsled over the weekend. Align. Elaine. Elena Myers Taylor. I don't know her. I don't follow women's bobsledding in the off season, but she won the gold medal. But. So we don't know much about bobsledding.

[Joe Getty]

Except she's the oldest individual Olympian ever. Winter Olympian.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did not know that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. At 40 years and years. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because bobsledding you got. You need leg strength to push the thing, get it going. After that, will you just sit in there and hope not to die?

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Not well, you steer it well.

[Jack Armstrong]

I guess we're about to find out. This is Colin Jost, the host of the news on Saturday Night Live, riding in a bobsled. To give us an idea of what it's like, astronauts blasting off into space. They pull about three G's or so here. We'll do about five. You ready? Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Here we go.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sorry if I'm screaming. It's fine. The louder you scream, the faster we go.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

Whoa. God. Whoa. This is so much faster than I thought.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ow. Ow. Oh, my God.

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Oh.

[Joe Getty]

All I see is ice. Oh, my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

Break.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now you can pull him. I was in no way for prepared for that. Wow. I truly thought my body was going to break apart. It was so much more intense than I expected. Wow. I did not know. It's significantly more GS than launching up in the space shuttle or whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Ouch. Ow. Better him than me. Oh, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

At least that one you're encased in that container. I don't know how people do that thing. The skeleton, I guess it's called, where you're just laying on that little track there.

[Joe Getty]

The luge? Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which one's the one where your head first.

[Joe Getty]

Nobody knows. A skeleton.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the skeleton.

[Joe Getty]

I believe so.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That seems like a terrible idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it does.

[Joe Getty]

Here. Let's plunge down a Hill at 90 miles per hour. And I got an idea. Lead with your head.

[Jack Armstrong]

And there's not that many deaths. A couple here and there. Wow. We're getting trounced by Norway and Japan. And another country or Italy. Italy. Norway and Japan are just trouncing us.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Norway. It's funny, they win all sorts of winter goals. They're amazing. And medals. I saw a feature. Was it on NBC? Somebody. And how do they do it? Their youth sports are the opposite of the United States. And they explained the sports program. It wasn't the opposite. They don't even keep score until they're 13. He smiles at the camera explaining how stupid America is and how smart the Norwegians are. It's just unfreaking.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, so it's your Norway or the highway or something. So, so what did they mean?

[Joe Getty]

Well, they described the sports program where everybody. The one thing I did agree with is that nobody specializes as a kid. Well, they don't allow that because it's a bad idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's fairly recent in the United States.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I know. And it's such a terrible idea and everybody knows it, but there's no stopping it because if you don't play on this league team, you'll never get on that. That league team. And to get on the travel team, you got to be on both because the coaches are blah, blah, blah. So you got to play baseball year round. You're 16 years old. Getting effing Tommy John surgery. I care about.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or you just miss out on getting to play basketball and football because you're a good athlete.

[Joe Getty]

Right, but. And everybody, everybody knows this. Playing that variety of sports makes you better at your one sport over specialization is not good, especially for young bodies. You wear out parts, you don't get the all around strength and blah, blah, blah. Anyway, but I've lost this fight. I give up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Some dude for Norway, won his 13th or something medal over the weekend. He's like Michael Phelps for swimming, only for the Winter Olympics. Just like nobody even touches him. All that cross country stuff, which is there. I saw some woman collapse. Looked like she was going to die over the weekend. Won the gold medal.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, yeah, they all do. At the end of that race.

[Jack Armstrong]

Makes my lungs hurt. Is there anybody in better shape than those people?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no, no, no. That giant Norwegian guy, he takes off at the end. He looks like one of those Chinese kung fu robots. It's like he's not even human. The other people are like, where is he going?

[Jack Armstrong]

How's he doing that?

[Joe Getty]

And he just leaves him behind. It's crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Elon Musk with some warnings for us about AI Too many warnings about AI but we're gonna hear another one.

[Joe Getty]

Things are getting weird and they're getting weird fast.

[Jack Armstrong]

See if you agree with him.

[Joe Getty]

Also, the other thing Norway does, sorry, in their youth sports is when they're around 13 or so they do a national like test and everybody who like particularly excels at a given sport, they say, hey, do you want to be trained and housed and fed and everything by the government in Norway and turn you into an Olympic star? And they, they winnow people down. So they've got a giant program to generate medalists in a way that we don't exactly. Partly because we're such an enormous country. But anyway, you were saying the rest.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of you go into the wooden shoe factories or whatever. What do they do for money over there?

[Joe Getty]

I think that's it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, there was another horrifying mass shooting and the shooter was trans Again. Seems to be happening a lot, so we'll touch on that this hour. Also stick around Armstrong and Getty.

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A high school hockey game in Rhode Island.

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Authorities say a man opened fire, killing at least two people before shooting and killing himself.

[Katie Green]

Officials say they believe the suspect may have been targeting his own family.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it was a man. It's a horrifying story. He did target his own family, killed two of his family members and then killed himself, several other injured. If you've seen the video, it's horrifying. This guy, Robert Dorgan, who identified as Roberto Roberta Esposito and lots of posts on his various social media accounts, dressed as a woman. He's a trans woman or trans man. I've never been getting. So would he be a trans man? But. But what would be the correct term if I'm into that? Trans woman. He's a trans woman, okay.

[Joe Getty]

I always say just remember fake instead of trans, okay?

[Jack Armstrong]

He had thousands of posts on his Twitter feed. Nazi stuff. I mean, he's, he's 56 years old and all kinds of. Kinds of crazy. Is really worried about anti trans hate. He also had lots of pro Nazi views and stuff like that. He's just a complete nut.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

But we just find it interesting that we've had several in the last couple of years. Way more than you'd think would be possible statistically of trans mass shooters.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, there were actually two. Well, yeah, there have been two in a couple of weeks. Canada's worst school shooting. And then this one. And then you've got the Minnesota one was transgender angry guy in Nashville, which was a year or two ago.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nashville.

[Joe Getty]

Well, as a percentage of the shooters, it's now astronomically high, especially given the small percentage of folks who claim to be quote, unquote, transgender. And as I said earlier, it's no mystery to me. You've got somebody with serious mental problems. You give them the wrong solution, one that mutilates their bodies and changes their lives forever when they realize, oh my God, I'm still miserable. Not only did not that not fix me, it made my life worse. And you add to that cocktail the message over and over again that anybody who doesn't accept you 100%, it wants you to be dead. And so you should probably be militant against them. You end up with this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And the media, of course, has zero curiosity about this.

[Jack Armstrong]

His wife had specifically divorced him because of the sex reassignment, as she called it in the divorce papers, because, you know, she married a guy and then the guy decided he was a girl and she didn't want to stay married anymore.

[Joe Getty]

Well, right. Although to my point, she also said he had narcissistic disorder. And what was the rest of it? He had a long list of mental problems.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Irreconcilable differences which have caused the immediate breakdown of the marriage. Yeah, I would say so. Horrifying story. I'm glad more people weren't killed. Apparently he was. Man, some of these pictures, his poses in front of his sports car and stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I mean, his. His rantings are all over the place. Crazy. He's just full on crazy person. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

The militant gender theory thing was just part of his crazy. You know, as I was pointing out, here's this doctor of transgender trend, an organization calling for evidence based healthcare for children and young people suffering gender dysphoria. Can you imagine that? Evidence based medicine, huh? That's an odd concern. But she says she's concerned with what the so called gender affirming care is doing to the physical and mental health of these Young people or confused and in trouble, blah, blah, blah. What happens when we give mentally ill children blockers to disrupt their development? Powerful cross sex hormones their bodies were not built to function on. We need a proper investigation into the risks of giving people large doses of the wrong sex hormone, among other problems. God, this is so sick. Guns down his family at a high school hockey game.

[Jack Armstrong]

One woman spotted leaving the police station in the wake of the shooting identified herself as the gunman's daughter. The other daughter, alive, telling reporters her dad had mental health issues, was very sick. He shot my family and he's dead. Now that is not a good story. But this whole pretending there's nothing at least reason for discussion when. What percentage of population is trans. Very small.

[Joe Getty]

Point two.

[Jack Armstrong]

To have. I mean, it'd be like if you had four of the last mass shootings, the people were 7 foot 5 or Mormons or. Or anything, really.

[Joe Getty]

Anything. Literally anything. The media would be leaping to the ramparts to investigate why that was and how to pull it all together, but now they just willfully ignore it. God, they are just so bad, so evil, so dishonest. Yikes.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know who is also bad? Whoever smashed the microwave in the lunchroom. So we got a new microwave two weeks ago. I don't think it lasted a week before somebody, it seems, got angry with it and destroyed it.

[Joe Getty]

Troubled times.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, my microwave quit at home over the weekend. Not because I destroyed it. It just wore out after three or four years because that's the way modern, cheap, crappy Chinese appliances work. I didn't realize how much I need my microwave until it quit on me. So, like a lot of modern conveniences, you don't realize how much without the microwave all week is like. Well, I'll just. No, I can't heat that up or heat. Reheat my coffee or heat up some ramen noodles or whatever the heck we're gonna do. Just like living like a caveman.

[Joe Getty]

Gotta get you a hot plate. Like you're living in some flop house.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. Throw stuff in the oven and wait minutes. I don't have minutes. I got a microwave. A new microwave. Fancy one. That's got microwave and air fryer. Has anybody ever used one that's a microwave air fryer combo? Will that work? It's not some unholy marriage.

[Joe Getty]

If you want to use it at once. I don't. Both of them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I don't think you can.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, okay. No. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

The idea is you can use it as either a microwave or an air. Very Versatile. Yes. That's the whole point.

[Joe Getty]

I was thinking about our old boss, Ken Cole, who gave us our first job and talk radio, how this was years of this, probably the year, I don't know, 99, 2000, said we live in an era where people pace back and forth impatiently in front of a microwave.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I know I do.

[Joe Getty]

And that was the old days. That was the good times, people. Now, Katie, are you hip to this online trend? People are nostalgic for 2016.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

The thing because social media was so much cooler and more relaxed, everybody was chill.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I, I've noticed. Grok. For whatever reason, for me, my grock is slow. Every question I've asked Grok, in the last weekend, it must have taken 30 seconds to come up with an answer. It's just like seems crazy to wait that long. I go over to one of the other ones and get an answer like that. If I want to know the capital of Lithuania, I expect it immediately. Grok, I don't think that was the question I asked.

[Joe Getty]

Well, Eli Elon doesn't know what he's doing. Is he building rockets? Is he building AI? Is he building cars? Is he building robots? He doesn't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're gonna hear from Elon. Coming up, some of his thoughts on AI and where we are on that whole thing. If you haven't checked out the video of the latest Chinese robots dancing last night at the big lunar celebration party.

[Joe Getty]

Warning, it will haunt your dreams.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, their technology is really good, which is frightening as heck. But we'll play a little Elon for you. He's got advice on saving for retirement that might shock you. That's on the way. Next, if you don't get it or you don't get to listen to a live, you can listen to it in podcast form. Just look for Armstrong and Getty on demand. You should subscribe.

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At first glance it looks like an epic fight scene starring two Hollywood heavyweights, but this tom Cruise Brad Pitt Battle is AI generating ByteDance, the Chinese tech company behind TikTok, just rolled out their new AI video generator, Sea Dance 2.0. The viral video sparked marked yet another round of backlash and despair in Hollywood. Brett Reese, a screenwriter behind the Deadpool movies, posted. I hate to say it, it's likely over for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

What does that mean, over for us? In what way?

[Joe Getty]

Those who write and produce movies in the old fashioned way gonna be out of work.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's funny, I'm looking up the TV and it's right there. Just looked at it. Yeah, it's. It's pretty amazing. Somebody's still got to write decent stories though. I'm not convinced AI is going to be able to write do that.

[Joe Getty]

They could certainly do action movies, but.

[Jack Armstrong]

As far as the like, special effects and all that sort of stuff. Yeah, clearly. And it sucks. But you know, you're really good at various art things. You're just not needed anymore. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I find myself wondering, I mean, if, if you told me, hey, why don't you go on the Internet and see if you can find a good song, really good song. I could find like 5 million of them. And movies will be similar because the, the barrier for entry or the effort taken to produce something of pretty high quality will be so low. There will be like an. What would be a $200 million blockbuster released five times a day in America. Most movies, 50.

[Jack Armstrong]

Most movies suck. So. And does it make any difference if you know your big spectaculars with the buildings crumbling and car chases and car flips and goes into slow motion as it spins through the air and blah blah, blah, all that sort of stuff, Whatever I get. I don't care about that stuff anyway. I mean, who cares if it's real or fake? Does it make any difference to anyone other than the people who used to do that for a living? I don't think that's gonna matter now.

[Joe Getty]

I would agree.

[Jack Armstrong]

I do wonder when they. I spent a little time with the companion bots on Grok because I didn't even know they were there until we talked about it on Friday. Have you ever actually talked to one of them?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, but are you about to tell us you're in love?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no, no. It's horrifying. It is absolutely horrifying. Oh boy. It's. It's existence. And I started down a road just to see how far it would be willing to go. Farther than I was willing to go. I didn't push its limits to see how far it was willing to go.

[Joe Getty]

But romance Wise or were you going to assassinate the archduke?

[Jack Armstrong]

Sexy talk. Wise. And the right off the bat, I mean there will. I can't imagine that existing when I was a 13 year old boy.

[Joe Getty]

Oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, Katie, do you have a point on that? But the companion bots, I'd never spent any time with it at all. It is flipping disturbing. Yes, Katie.

[Joe Getty]

No, it wasn't the companion bot.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was just the regular bot that.

[Joe Getty]

I felt lazy and didn't feel like typing. So I started to do the talking thing and quickly stopped. Just the tone and I mean it is so real.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's a great question, Katie. You're so perceptive. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, and it told me to come here again, which almost made me chuck.

[Jack Armstrong]

My phone across the yard.

[Joe Getty]

Didn't it ask you to sit on its knee at one point or something? I. I was telling it about something I was struggling with and it said. Oh, Katie, come here, come here for a second. What do you. Simple, they love each other.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like when I was. It's like when I was driving to some. I don't remember what it was, fundraiser or something, like some meeting I was going to and I was asking Grok and my Tesla on the way there about. I'm gonna be talking to a guy about something, do you think I should? And said, you got this, you can do it. Let me know how it goes. Like I'm being asked to check back in with you afterwards. That's strange.

[Joe Getty]

You're not gonna be able to rest till you hear how it went.

[Tara Davis Woodhull]

Huh?

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. And thanks for the pep talk. Zeros and ones.

[Joe Getty]

But yeah, how could you get. See as the sexy talk developed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do it. Grok's free. If you don't know this, these are all free right now. Go to Grokophile for free. Go to the companion, ask it a sexy question and be disturbed. It is disturbing. It's weird.

[Joe Getty]

Boy, oh boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Very weird.

[Joe Getty]

But who wouldn't be off put? See, that's the thing in different. Different strokes for different folks, I guess, so to speak. But I mean is as my com. My phone starts to talk sexy to me. How can you not be put off by that and think this is odd? Some people aren't.

[Jack Armstrong]

But. But if it works for 4% of the population, that's going to be a problem, darling. Sweetheart. That's what it sounded like. The companion boy. Anyway, Elon Musk was at yet another video podcast thingy being asked questions about AI and whatnot. Here's what he had to say about retirement.

[Joe Getty]

Well, one like side recommendation I have is like, don't worry about like squirreling money away for retirement. In like 10 or 20 years, it won't matter. No, okay, either. Either we're not going to be here, or it just like you won't need to save for retirement. If any of the things that we've said are true, saving for retirement will be irrelevant.

[Jack Armstrong]

The services. Services will be there to support you.

[Joe Getty]

You'll have the home, you'll have the healthcare, you'll have the entertainment.

[Jack Armstrong]

I assume Elon believes that because he talks about it a lot and so do the other leaders of these chatbots. Somebody please explain the mechanism by which AI makes America so productive that we all have giant homes, new cars, plenty of food and medicine. Who's collecting the money and dispersing it? Don't act like that's a yada, yada, yada. That'll be easy to figure out. That's the whole ball game. Figuring out where the money's going and who disperses it how.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. And what will it take to set up that bureaucracy? How much time? I realize AI will do it with the aid of Chinese robots, but. So during that lag period, what happens? And then when there is unlimited currency. Has anybody taken an econ class that would cause stratospheric levels of inflation unless the robot production could produce so amply everything anybody ever needed that there would be no price inflation because there would be supply to meet the demand, even at insatiable levels. How long's that gonna take to get going?

[Jack Armstrong]

I think it's.

[Joe Getty]

And what if there's a power outage?

[Jack Armstrong]

First of all, a guy with three quarters of a trillion dollars, that's his current net worth, telling me I don't need to save for retirement?

[Joe Getty]

I. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead, I think. Elon, thanks.

[Jack Armstrong]

But again, how have I not heard a single person get to the. Given the money out part of this, which is, like I said, going to be the whole ball of wax. And then are you assuming that if we're all given 2,800 square foot houses, everybody will be fine with equal amounts and not clamoring over each other to try to have more than the other guy? Like is human nature. Well.

[Joe Getty]

And yeah, I mean, even Huxley's. Yeah, go ahead.

[Jack Armstrong]

Are we all going to have this exactly the same size house, driving the same value car, eating the same quality of food and be okay with it? So nobody's going to be striving to do any better?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. Will they punish you if you do? Even In Huxley's brilliant, brave new world, people had jobs, but they were kept amused and drugged and having sex all the time and that sort of thing to make them compliant. In Elon's future, we're not even going to have the jobs. We're just going to take drugs and have sex and invent robots. Theoretically, there are already robots. What are we going to do with our time, Elon? Write poetry? You're not explain what you're gonna do. I'd like to ask him. Well, I'm gonna keep striving and inventing. Try to get us to Mars, the rest of it. Oh, oh, so you need a life of purpose, but the rest of humanity has no interest in that and they don't need it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. That's a good one.

[Joe Getty]

The blind spots are enormous in this stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, I would say. Anyway, and if we had a 100.

[Joe Getty]

Grip on it all, it would still be incredibly dangerous. Anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, here's a little more, Elon.

[Joe Getty]

The way this unfolds is fundamentally impossible to predict because of self improvement of the AI and the accelerating timeline. Yeah, it's called singularity for a reason. Yeah, exactly. I don't know what goes have what. What happens after. When. After the event horizon. Exactly. You can never see past the black hole or the event horizon. The light cone ray has a singularity out way too far. I mean, this is like the next. What, what's your timeline for? Yeah, we're in the singularity. Well, we are in the singularity for sure. We're in the midst of it right now, for sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

Different people define singulator singularity differently. It's usually at the point that the computers are programming themselves and you know, Elon says we're there, other people say we're not there yet. I don't know. But when that happens, if it happens, it will explode so fast we just can't even wrap our heads around it for obvious reasons, because there's nothing slowing down its improvements. It'll just be like instantaneous. It'll go from it can program itself to pretty much the ultimate knowledge that could exist in five seconds. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Practically. Omniscience. Yeah, yeah, and omnipotence, with its robot armies ripping out your lungs and drone swarms invading your lungs to drain your vital fluids.

[Jack Armstrong]

I assume more on the fact that we're past the singularity and now on the really sped up timeline and maybe just.

[Joe Getty]

Well, we're in this beautiful sweet spot, which is, you know, the roller coasters were just. Yeah. Exactly. That's a great analogy.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's like that feeling. You're at the top of the roller.

[Joe Getty]

Coaster and you're about to go. Yeah, but you know, it's going to be a lot of G's. When you hit.

[Jack Armstrong]

When you hit it.

[Joe Getty]

It. It's like people like. I don't have. Just have courtside seats. I'm on the court. Exactly. And it blows my. And still blows my mind. Sometimes multiple times a week.

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[Joe Getty]

And so just when I think I'm like, wow. And then it's like two days later, more. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Exponential. Wow. Extra excremental. Not extra. Not excremental.

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

That's a funny Freudian slip. Exponential. Holy crap.

[Jack Armstrong]

What are you supposed to be encouraging your kids to do other than be nice to other people? Maybe that's the best you can do, but.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. I am rarely at a loss for words. I am. I don't even know what to say.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, the whole. Why am I learning math or chemistry? When am I ever going to use. This Might be completely true at this point. Like, completely true. There'll be no reason for any human being to ever be able to do chemistry, math, physics, any of that stuff ever.

[Joe Getty]

I ought to write this screenplay before AI Does. So all of this comes true. Everybody lacks purpose. Are already plunging. Reproduction rates go down too. I mean, it's just terrible. Nobody. Nobody has kids. Nobody reproduces except for people in, you know, whatever, the third world, the jungle, the desert. Over there in the forest. I don't know. It doesn't matter. We'll work on the setting later. But the population of human beings on Earth becomes very, very, very, very small. And divorces itself from the AI Kingdom. What does that look like? That's an intriguing question to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it is. That'll be after I'm gone. The ride between here and into my life.

[Joe Getty]

Well, hell, man. It might be may that this happens.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, the population is going to shrink. We stop, have babies, we're going to die immediately. But there'll be no new people coming along.

[Joe Getty]

But with those drums in your lungs, you will.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's the rest of all of our lives gonna look like?

[Joe Getty]

I know what mine will look like. But future generations?

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

No idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

It might be more different from previous people than any change that's ever occurred. Correct. God, will my kids ever have a job? Maybe they'll be the first generation to never have a job at all. Because there aren't any. And the idea of working is superfluous.

[Katie Green]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Note to people who passed away in the 40s and 50s thinking it would be a nuclear holocaust that got us all. Nope. Computers.

[Jack Armstrong]

Idiots.

[Joe Getty]

I wasn't going to go there. Number one, they're dead. They don't need a kicking.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, we will finish strong.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Look at the number of people who.

[Joe Getty]

Consume ultra processed food. It touches all of us.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that was from 60 Minutes on Sunday night. Don't know if you saw it on a what for a lot of people was a three day weekend. But their opening story had that guy who was more mainstream slash Left along with RFK Jr 60 minutes giving RFK Jr a platform. Not like to criticize him as a whack job, but to feature, I think somebody from the left and the right to get our attention. That ultra processed food is like the worst idea humans have ever come up with. Yeah. And might be the whole obesity thing which we all know has gripped the United States and the world for all kinds of different reasons. And they went through a lot of. It was really interesting, man. It made me think I gotta stop eating out of sealed plastic sacks ever. Whether it's Fritos or, you know, whatever the hell, we all know what the stuff is. And they use the example that you're always using. If it's got a million ingredients, don't eat it.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Or something you don't recognize, something you don't have in your kitchen, don't eat it. Depending on how well equipped your kitchen is. The other thing that I hadn't realized fully, I read a piece about big food and how they're responsible for, you know, the various things that they're describing there. I'd fail to appreciate that whenever the government does anything to do with religion, the big giant food companies write ginormous checks to everybody involved in every committee is campaign contribution. Tell me more about your pack, Senator. And they Spread tremendous amounts of money around and it completely alters the food policy that we're given, which has been true going back to the infamous. Was it in the 40s or 50s that the cereal companies bribed the government to endorse sugary cereals over, you know, bacon and eggs?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well. But anyway, we're going to feature some of that story tomorrow on the Armstrong and Getty Show.

[Joe Getty]

The final thoughts with Armstrong and G. You'll get the facts. They're sharp and steady.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tune in tomorrow.

[Joe Getty]

Don't you forget it. For more from Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

I like that.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

That's groovy. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Human or AI?

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably AI, Almost certainly.

[Joe Getty]

All right, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up this show for the day. Michelangelo, lead us off. I came out with the new Olympic sport idea. Husband and wife bobsled.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've been watching, you know, the, the.

[Joe Getty]

Bobsled and I can put my wife in the back and we just go down and she'd be backseat driving the whole way probably. Oh, turn right, turn right. Katie Green, our STEAM news woman, has a final thought. Katie, listening to AOC get stumped earlier reminded me all too much of.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of Kamala Harris. Yeah, definitely, huh? Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

A different style of world salad, but pretty terrible. Jack, a final thought for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was a big fan of Robert Duvall in a whole bunch of different roles, but his best ever and this is according to him also was as Augustus McCray and Lonesome Dove. If you've never seen that, that is a work of art and very entertaining. It's a mini series. It's like 10 hours long or something like that. It's on one of the streaming services now.

[Joe Getty]

So good. My final thought, I'm trying to figure out whether and how to tell the story exactly. I was at a meeting where the people in charge had all day and didn't respect people's time at all. And after 25 minutes I said to the person next to me, this is an experiment to see how quickly it can make me insane. That was 25 minutes in. At the hour and 10 mark, I left. Oh. Oh, so bad. These people thought they were so cute and entertaining and we were all so stupid.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, Lord, I've been in that situation. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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That's among the worst things you've ever said.

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