Mansplaining To Lady Boys Would Be Inappropriate

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Mansplaining To Lady Boys Would Be Inappropriate"

Date: October 22, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Producer: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview

This episode showcases Armstrong & Getty’s signature blend of topical humor, cultural critique, and provocative commentary. The conversation winds through sports news, political polarization, societal “feminization,” changes in historical narrative, the influence of gender in American institutions, and listener reactions—often delivered with irreverence and pointed sarcasm. Notably, the episode revisits and expands upon a controversial essay discussed the previous day about the "feminization" of American institutions, dives into the shifting narrative around civil rights history, and touches on current culture wars and gender norms.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NBA Season Returns & LeBron’s Longevity

[00:28 – 01:29]

• Excitement about the NBA’s return to NBC; big headlines around Victor Wembanyama (“his defense is so good, France just asked him to guard the Louvre”).
• Praise for LeBron James entering his 23rd season and still being a top-10 player.
  • “LeBron's going to his 23rd season still a top 10 player, but for the first time in his career, not the best player on his team…” — Joe Getty [01:20]

2. Political Discourse & Threats Against Moderates

[01:29 – 02:13]

• Mention of Barry Weiss, a moderate liberal, needing bodyguards due to threats from the far left.
• Reflection on risks and intolerance coming from ideological extremes.

3. The Ongoing Debate on “Feminization”

[02:13 – 03:06, 11:12 – 35:50]

• Teasing the continued discussion of Helen Andrews’ essay “The Great Feminization.”
• Summary of the essay: America’s unique situation with women leading major institutions, and how this impacts cultural and political trends (empathy over rationality, safety over risk, cohesion over competition, etc.).
• Numerous listener emails, with overwhelming support (especially from women), agreeing that a balance of masculine and feminine traits is necessary in business, education, law, and religion.
  • “Zero pushback and stacks of emails from women saying yes, yes, yes.” — Jack Armstrong [22:42]
  • “We operate best as humans with a balance of masculine and feminine attributes and play with each operating in their own place.” — Email from Melinda in Idaho [22:54]
  • Discussion of lowering firefighter fitness standards as an example of unintended consequences when diversity mandates override other criteria.
  • Critique of discipline’s decline in schools, connecting shifts in school administration gender to less traditional disciplinarian approaches.
  • Reflection on rites of passage for boys and girls:
    • “I wish I had heard this when I was a dad of young kids. … I love the idea of having an event to signify a change in vision for the kid.” — Email from Josh in Kentucky [32:41]
  • In religion, especially Christianity and liberal Judaism, a shift toward emotional and relational focus alongside declining male participation.

4. Shifting Narratives in Civil Rights History

[05:55 – 10:07]

• Review of a new book (“Shattered Dreams, Infinite Hope”) arguing that classic histories of the civil rights movement are too optimistic and now considered whitewashing by new progressive critics.
  • “So now you have the New York Times reviewing books saying that multiple prize winning books about the civil rights era that lefties loved back when they came out... is now seen as trying to whitewash history.” — Jack Armstrong [06:42]
• Concern that revered figures like Martin Luther King, Jr. may be recast as insufficiently radical by newer activist standards.
  • “I just wanted to put this on your radar that I think there's a possibility a turn is going to happen to where Martin Luther King Jr. is seen as kind of a sellout squish.” — Joe Getty [09:48]

5. The “Mansplaining to Lady Boys” Segment

[03:06 – 04:15]

• Anecdote about a murderer in the news referencing an altercation with “lady boys” (Thai transgender women), leading to tongue-in-cheek cultural commentary on terminology and the importance of not “mansplaining.”
  • “What am I going to be? Some belligerent western white man to tell the Thais how to refer to their transsexuals?” — Jack Armstrong [03:59]
  • “Mansplaining to lady boys what they should be called. That's not appropriate.” — Joe Getty [04:07] (Episode title moment)

6. Kids & School Attendance

[04:15 – 04:54]

• California encourages students with mild illnesses to return to school, challenging COVID-era norms.
  • “They're now advocating go to school with a cough or sneeze. You gotta come to school.” — Joe Getty [04:15]

7. Cultural & Political Center vs. Extremes

[11:27 – 12:40]

• Discussion of New York Times editorial calling for Democrats to move to the center, contrasted with ultra-progressive positions in other NYT departments.
  • “The partisans are wrong. Moving to the center is way to win.” — referencing the NYT editorial [11:38]

8. Drag Queens & Gender Culture Wars

[14:03 – 15:31]

• Satirical recounting of Jimmy Kimmel’s show featuring a drag queen reading to kids, with hosts mocking the rationale and the cultural battle over gender boundaries.
  • “The kids later said, I couldn't tell if it was a man or a woman. And the drag queen was creepy too. So wow.” — Jack Armstrong [14:26]
  • “Radical gender theorists want to erase the lines between men and women. Say there's 55 genders. Those people.” — Jack Armstrong [14:56]

9. Masculinity, Embarrassment, and Social Norms

[15:31 – 17:08]

• Light-hearted segment about fly mishaps and the anxiety of adolescence.

10. Python Hunt in Florida & Reflections on Hunting

[17:09 – 18:54]

• Discussion of the annual Florida python hunt, contrasting recreational hunting and the environmental necessity of removing invasive species.
  • “Do I have bloodlust that I don't want to recognize in myself? I want to hunt invasive species.” — Jack Armstrong [18:13]
  • Playful banter about making clothing from python skins.

11. Quick Hits & Cultural Observations

• Matcha Mispronunciation — [20:21 – 20:50]
  • “What the hell is Matcha? ... That doesn't have those little disgusting balls in the bottom, does it though?” — Joe Getty [20:33]
• Origin of Wokeness & Gender in Institutions — [20:50+]

12. George Santos, Lies, and Redemption (Satire)

[37:01 – 39:20]

• Clips and discussion of disgraced politician George Santos’ (satirical) pledge to mentor youth on truth-telling, recitation of his most egregious lies.
  • “When I think of a mentor for my kids, I think of George Santos.” — Jack Armstrong [37:17]
  • “He claimed his grandparents were... Holocaust survivors. He's not Jewish and therefore obviously his parents did not survive the Holocaust.” — Joe Getty [38:54]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Civil Discourse & Backlash:
  “Larry Summers was not fired from Harvard for saying men and women have different innate abilities in STEM fields... He was fired simply for saying the possibility was worth considering when trying to understand the statistical under-representation of women in STEM fields.” — Email summarized by Jack Armstrong [23:26]

• On Ideological Extremes:
  “How can you radicalize black people if they've made tremendous progress in the greatest country for their aspirations that will ever exist? You can't. So you have to convince them that this is a miserable hellhole and they don't have a chance. That's the motivation of these people.” — Jack Armstrong [08:38]

• On Workplace Gender Norms:
  “You get a workforce full of under qualified personnel who otherwise wouldn't have been hired. And he's responding to the point that Ms. Andrews makes in her essay that it's an entirely one sided set of standards.” — Jack Armstrong (summarizing an email from a firefighter) [25:10]

• Listener’s Rites of Passage Idea:
  “The Bible talks about iron sharpening iron. Men need to challenge other men. So I came up with the idea of selecting three men that I highly respect to have one on one conversations with my son who's about to turn 13 years old... The whole event really had an impact on him.” — Email from Josh in Kentucky [32:41]

• On School Administration & Wokeness:
  “Woke curriculum decisions and discipline policies are directly related to the fact that more and more schools are now led by the ladies. As we turn away from having true disciplinarians in our head offices and toward being led by pseudo school psychologists, it's no wonder that our students are suffering from the soft bigotry of low expectations.” — 20-year school marm email [34:42]

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Key Segment Timestamps

• NBA & LeBron: 00:28–01:29
• Barry Weiss & Threats: 01:29–02:13
• Feminization Discussion (Setup): 02:13–03:06, 11:12–35:50
• "Mansplaining to Lady Boys": 03:06–04:15
• Schools & Attendance: 04:15–04:54
• Shifting Civil Rights Narratives: 05:55–10:07
• NY Times Editorial & Democrats: 11:27–12:40
• Jimmy Kimmel & Drag Queen Segment: 14:03–15:31
• Listener Emails on Gender & Institutions: 22:41–35:50
• Florida Python Hunt: 17:09–18:54
• George Santos Satire: 37:01–39:20

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Tone & Language

The hosts employ their usual irreverence, blending comic exaggeration, biting sarcasm, and serious analysis. Listeners are drawn into controversial topics with humor, directness, and an appeal for discussion over dogma.

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Summary for Listeners

This episode is a quintessential Armstrong & Getty installment, combining current events with deep dives into cultural trends and societal shifts. If you’re interested in how the “culture war” is reframed through humor and blunt analysis—and want to hear real listener reactions to challenging ideas—this one’s a can’t-miss. For the full backstory on the “great feminization” theme, check out the prior day's episode as well.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Commercial Announcer]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. That's right.

[Guest or Contributor]

After more than 20 years, the NBA is finally back on NBC. One of my favorite players is the Spurs 7 foot 5 inch French superstar Victor Wembanyama.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Guest or Contributor]

In fact, his defense is so good, France just asked him to guard the Louvre.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank you.

[Guest or Contributor]

I pray everyone is pumped. The NBA is back. The fans in Sacramento are yelling go Kings. When everyone else is chanting no Kings.

[Jack Armstrong]

And.

[Joe Getty]

So I just wanted to mention.

[Jack Armstrong]

That'S going to be the playoffs. No Kings.

[Joe Getty]

No kidding. For LeBron haters out there. He is starting his 23rd season as of last night, unprecedented. Nobody's ever done that before.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And he's still a top 10 player in the league according to like every publication that does best players in the league. He's still top 10 player headed into his 23rd season, which is insane really.

[Jack Armstrong]

For instance, need to be studied by medical science.

[Joe Getty]

For instance, Kobe Bryant went into his 20th season as the 93rd ranked player in the NBA. LeBron's going to his 23rd season still a top 10 player, but for the first time in his career, not the best player on his team because that's. Luka Doncic is the best player on the team. Be interesting to watch. That just came across this. Barry Weiss has six giant bodyguards she has to travel with because she gets so many death threats from lefties. She's a lesbian. She's a pro choice lesbian.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

But she's not far out there enough for the left and she has to travel with bodyguards. That's the world we live in now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I want to talk more about that. The New York Times with a big piece saying, hey, moderate America is where the Democratic party has to be. You are killing yourself. We are killing ourselves. We need to do something. I thought it was quite notable. Oh, coming up, by the way, yesterday's the great feminization discussion. Reading parts of that brilliant essay by Helen Andrews made, as we suspected, a hell of an impression on you good people. A lot of folks writing terrific, interesting emails about that controversial topic. We'll touch on that at the bottom of this hour. Please do stay tuned. Really interesting stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that. If you didn't hear that and you want to hear some of it today, it's really interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and grab yesterday's podcast. 21 October our two of the show, you'll hear the whole thing.

[Joe Getty]

This is not important to anything but Luigi Mangione, the scumbag murderer who happens to be handsome. Details came out yesterday for some reason from his court case where he admitted to getting beaten up by seven ladyboys in Thailand a couple of months before he murdered the United Healthcare CEO. He got beaten up by, these are his words, seven lady boys in Thailand.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Well, that's a rough night.

[Joe Getty]

Certainly. I don't know what he was up to that night and how things got out of hand.

[Jack Armstrong]

How did he get on the wrong side of the aforementioned female? Right, the transsexual. Well, lady boys, his words, not mine. The term of. Well, that's the term of art in Thailand.

[Joe Getty]

No. Okay, fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

What am I going to be? Some belligerent western white man to tell the ties how to refer to their transsexuals?

[Joe Getty]

No, certainly not. Right. Man splaining to lady boys what they should be called. That's not appropriate.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. That would be inappropriate.

[Joe Getty]

I just saw LA Times headline that because attendance is having such a problem with schools nationwide, in California too, with kids showing up to school, I mean like the. The numbers are unlike anything that's ever happened. The number of kids that don't show up to school on a regular basis, they're now advocating go to school with a cough or sneeze. You gotta come to school. And yeah, I don't remember skipping school every time I had a cold when I was a kid. But we kind of got into that habit with the COVID and some schools still suggest that, so. Ain't gonna work.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you got a fever over X, Stay home if you don't go to school.

[Joe Getty]

I wish I would have engaged a woman yesterday. I'm waiting at the stoplight on my bike for the light to change. We have bike lights in the town I live in, so particular bike light to go across. Anyway, college girl walks up to me. She's walking along in the bike path and then she gets up to the crowd. She pulls up her mask before she gets to us standing there and what are you doing? I'd like to ask you what specifically you think you're doing.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is truly become a religious garment. It's odd. I mean, Jews understand that the Yamulka does not function serve like an actual physical function. It is a symbol of respect before God.

[Joe Getty]

That's a little black hat.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a little cap. Yeah. That is not always black, but yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Well, keeps it that on your head. I've always wondered that. I see that. How's that not falling off?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know, I don't know. Anyway, that's. It's a symbol. The mask has become a quasi religious symbol, clearly.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And then I wanted to bring this up if you're into. Well, this is not about reading. This is about a change in culture. I was shocked by this yesterday. So I read the New York Times Book Review every weekend and I'm on their mailing list and so they send me this thing about new books that they're reviewing. And they were reviewing this book called Shattered Dreams, Infinite Hope. And it's about how the history books that we have been reading and talking about for the past several decades are way too rosy and optimistic about the civil rights era and what it accomplished and a reckoning needs to happen. And they specifically mention Taylor Branch's award winning multi volume narrative of Martin Luther King Jr. Which I have touted on this show for years because I read them one Pulitzer Prize, Barack Obama's favorite books. They actually mentioned Barack Obama being part of the rosy cover up of, you know, how far we've not come in civil rights. So now you have the New York Times reviewing books saying that multiple prize winning books about the civil rights era that lefties loved back when they came out. I mean, the left loved these books. He was on C Span all the time. And again Barack Obama given the Medal of Freedom and all these different sorts of that is now seen as trying to whitewash history. And we need a new book to tell you how things are still horrible in this country with civil rights.

[Jack Armstrong]

So obvious what they're doing. Go ahead, I'll.

[Joe Getty]

I'll just read a little bit here. The author, Terry, traces this classic story of the movement from Taylor Branch's award winning book published in 1988 to President Obama's invocations of black freedom struggles is symbolic of the possibility of national unity. How dare Barack Obama claim that we are a country that can show national unity. The romance of civil rights, the mythic arc of deliverance and moral progress has lost its grip. Terry writes, and gonna try to straighten everybody out. The fact that the New York Times took that book seriously and reviewed it, that troubles me is that the direction we're headed now, we're gonna claim that that never happened. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it's obvious what's happening from a political point of view. The true history of the 20th century is that black families were making enormous progress economically, educationally, in terms of their. That was turbocharged during the civil rights movement. And if it were not for the liberal policies of lbj, among others, the Great Society and All of that. I think the, the black family would be in a vastly, vastly better spot right now. I mean like unrecognizably great. Your crappy inner city schools that the teachers unions control. None of that would be happening because strong, intact, empowered black families wouldn't be having it. Having said that, there's been enormous progress. How can you radicalize black people if they've made tremendous progress in the greatest country for their aspirations that will ever exist? You can't. So you have to convince them that this is a miserable hellhole and they don't have a chance. That's the motivation of these people.

[Joe Getty]

And I don't think it has to be black Americans. There's plenty of white Americans are all colors who like to be part of that self hating America sucks crowd.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, yeah. And it's not just radicals and Marxists who pitch that. It's as we've said many times, to be a progressive self hatred is completely required. I just, I mean it's, it's not like optional or. One of the qualities you must bring to the table. You must have that to be accepted.

[Joe Getty]

Saw that out of my son's history teacher when he was briefly in that class. We don't need to belabor this. I just wanted to put this on your radar that I think there's a possibility a turn is going to happen to where Martin Luther King Jr. Is seen as kind of a sellout squish as opposed to what he was all the time I was growing up.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

This story Joe had yesterday about the feminization of America, that doesn't, it's not like, doesn't sound like, it doesn't turn out to be like what I just said there. But and all on all the tentacles that go from that. Definitely worth sticking around for. Very, very interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, looking forward to the email reaction for that. I'm trying to find where's that New York Times piece I referenced. Yeah, and it's funny, these institutions are sprawling like the New York Times. So you know, I just mentioned, here it is in front of me. The title of this piece is oh, you got to scroll through all their graphics, which are cool, but the partisans are wrong. Moving to the center is way to win. The editorial board of the New York Times desperate to point that out. But over there in the book reviews section they're touting, you know, something that Karl Marx himself could have written. They're, they're big sprawling institutions. But I don't want to get too optimistic. But there are increasing signs. I mean there are, for instance, there are Democratic senators who have spoken even like to the Free Beacon, which is well known conservative publication, talking to him off the record, saying, yeah, we gotta settle this, this government shutdown. This is silly. The solution is obvious. It's sitting there. We want to do it, but we'll get murdered by our left flank. And I think more and more Democrats are realizing, hey, we gotta stand up against these people or we're doomed. I hope that's the truth.

[Joe Getty]

So you don't want your kid to be a genius. You really don't got an example of that coming up. Trump has said no to another Putin meeting. I heard, you know, the NBA season starting, I heard the most amazing story from Shaq yesterday. He was actually on one of the talk shows that good story for everybody really. Among other things on the way. Stay here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

On the Jimmy Kimmel Show, Jimmy had a drag queen on to read books to kids. No surprise, Many, many parents were really upset that the show would expose children to Jimmy Kimmel. The kids later said, I couldn't tell if it was a man or a woman. And the drag queen was creepy too. So wow.

[Joe Getty]

Why did Kimmel claim he was having drag queens on?

[Jack Armstrong]

I think he was trying to be a good progressive and show that drag queens dancing in front of little children is just fine.

[Joe Getty]

I've never, as I've said a bunch of times, I just have never been able to wrap my head around how this drag queen thing got going and became a fight. I mean, who, who decided this is something we need? For what reason?

[Jack Armstrong]

Radical gender theorists want to erase the lines between men and women. Say there's 55 genders. Those people.

[Joe Getty]

But the, the parents of the school, they didn't say, why are we having drag queens in the library? Well, what is the pointer?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's. Well, yeah, you're asking people to think and a lot of people don't think. They don't look at questions through a lens of truth or provability. They look at it through the lens of acceptance. If I agree with this, will I be accepted? Is this what I'm supposed to say?

[Joe Getty]

I was almost late getting back in the room. I'm a CIS male and I just went over to the restroom and. Do you ever have the thing where you put your zipper down and the little flap gets turned down and it kind of gets tucked into your pants and you can't get it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, like the handle.

[Joe Getty]

Does that happen to girls too, Katie?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, that happens to us as well.

[Joe Getty]

And the little thing was turned down. I couldn't figure out. So I was standing in there, I thought I either got to be, I got either go walk out with my fly down and be mocked or figure out how to get this fly up. But luckily I was able to grab it. That reminds me, one of my most embarrassing stories ever happened in my life. Gladys. I was a shy 18 year old headed off to orientation for college and the, the, the woman that came to pick me up at my house, I think, and took Me to the college and showed me around and everything like that. She was just blindingly hot. I mean, just ridiculously and cute and nice and everything like that. She's like 20 years old or something. Anyway, I was just. I was kind of nervous being around her at all. I'd been around her all day long. And she shows me the dorms and I'm walking through one of the dorms rooms and one of the college guys comes over me, says, hey, just want to let you know your flies down. My flight had been down the entire time. I'm trying to be the cool guy. Hey, maybe you never know. I just. Oh, God, that was horrifying. It was so deflating. I'm not ready for college. I thought to myself, hey, you can't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Even zip up your pants. I got dressed this morning all by myself.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, exactly. Oh, that was horrifying.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy.

[Joe Getty]

I forgot to mention the giant python hunt that's going on in the Everglades. I wish I could be. I think I could shoot a snake. I'm not a hunter. Like I. We were at a restaurant the other night that had animals on the walls. I was looking at the elk or whatever and I thought, I just could not shoot that standing there in a field. I have no interest in doing that. I know some of you do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good friends who are hunters. I don't quite get that. But invasive species, 100%.

[Joe Getty]

I can shoot a snake pretty easily. Anyway. I don't know if you remember this happened, but in 1992, a hurricane blew apart a python breeding operation and released a bunch of giant pythons. And. And they have taken over the Everglades. And so every year they have a giant python, a giant, giant python hunt. And they make a big deal out of it, Florida style. And there is Governor DeSantis there with his python football that he like throws in the air to officially start the hunt. And everybody goes out and starts shooting pythons and people are shitting off guns everywhere. And they show a couple of guys here with flipping enormous pythons at their feet that they killed. I mean, just. Yeah, crazy. Like it's out of Jurassic Park.

[Jack Armstrong]

Huge, right? Right. Yeah, yeah. You know, do I have bloodlust that I don't want to recognize in myself? I want to hunt invasive species. I would take delight in helping. Well, I think it's a good thing. It's helping the environment. We should not have pythons, any of them in the Everglades.

[Joe Getty]

Natural. Do you get to keep the skin? Like, I could make a pair of boots out of it. Or cool pants or something like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Be cool. Or an entire suit. An entire python skin snakeskin suit.

[Joe Getty]

I'm a single guy. That'd be a good look.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Oh Jack, the guy who wears snakeskin suits. Oh yeah, he's fantastic.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he's got a closet full of them. I guess he did the Florida python.

[Joe Getty]

Zippers off and down. But other than nice personality.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Joe explained why everything is wrong in America yesterday.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you didn't hear it, it's brief in capitalization. It's the great feminization of the us. We'll recap it very quickly and then get to folks reaction via email. Really good stuff. Stick around. If you can't subscribe to the podcast Armstrong and gettyondemand Armstrong and getty time.

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[Joe Getty]

How do you say Because I can't remember. M A T C H A the drink that hipsters drink.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, Matcha.

[Joe Getty]

It's Matcha. Yeah, I keep saying Matcha. Matcha.

[Jack Armstrong]

What the hell is like the way you say it, that sounds like a good Midwestern tough guy drinking your Matcha.

[Joe Getty]

What the hell is Matcha? It doesn't have those little disgusting.

[Jack Armstrong]

We don't have time for a matcha.

[Joe Getty]

It doesn't have the little disgusting balls in the bottom, does it though?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, it's just finely ground green tea.

[Joe Getty]

That's boba.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, those are gross. So yesterday we read you a great deal of Helen Andrews amazing essay, the Great Feminization. The basic premise of which is that because of the differences between men and women on average, the way we organize the way that we process things, etc. The US is incredibly unique. Experiment in putting women in charge of many of our institutions is essential. Essentially the explanation for a lot of what wokeness is and a lot of the damage it's doing is she writes. Everything you think of wokeness involves prioritizing the feminine over the masculine, empathy over rationality, safety over risk, cohesion over competition, and cohesion over free speech and clashing ideas and that sort of thing. If you missed it yesterday, certainly encourage you to grab Yesterday's Armstrong and Getty on Demand podcast was hour to like three quarters of the entire hour. So anyway, and also we posted the essay for you under yesterday's Hot Links the Great Feminization. We got a lot of email, a lot of it. Here's Melinda in Idaho. I appreciate your bravery and ethics and sharing the Great Feminization essay on today's show. I'm going to stop you right there, Melinda. Much as my ego likes the idea of being a courageous warrior for whatever zero pushback. Zero. Not even a single troll or woman or easily offended saying hey, I found that whole thing sexist. No pushback and stacks of emails from women saying yes, yes, yes.

[Joe Getty]

Interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, indeed. Anyway, I read on. I am a woman who has worked in HR and administration, both large and small businesses, over the last 35 years. I agree with you some Summers, the Larry Summers story and the fact shared in the essay based on my experience in the workplace. It's also true in communities, governments, family structure, and any organized function. We operate best as humans with a balance of masculine and feminine attributes and play with each operating in their own place. Thank you for being stout and willing to withstand the S you're going to take for broadcasting that never stop yelling it from the rooftop rooftops. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

How interesting is that? Expecting to get all kinds of pushback and we didn't.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, it could be that we just don't have enough like hardcore progressives listening, but they'd be tough to change their minds. Anyway, I just what I'm hoping to do here is help us all understand what's happening because you can't get good stuff to happen and prevent bad stuff for from happening if you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what's happening. So anyway, reading on Frank writes uh, guys, keep in mind Larry Summers was not fired from Harvard for saying men and women have different innate abilities in STEM fields. In fact, that question is complex, as you'd imagine. He was fired simply for saying the possibility was worth considering when trying to understand the statistical Underrepresented representation of women in STEM fields. That's how over the top the reaction was. He was saying to a bunch of scientists let's be scientific. And he was crucified for it.

[Joe Getty]

Lost his job. And you quoted that and he's a solid as lefty as you can get. And you had the quote from that biology professor saying they could barely breathe when they heard Larry Summers.

[Jack Armstrong]

It made me sick to hear that sort of bias. Right? Yeah. An emotional reaction from Al Anonymous because this could probably get me friard or in trouble. He's been listening to the show for a long time. Thanks my friend. I'm a fighter firefighter, EMT in a medium sized city. Every year for the last number of years our physical standard has been lowered because too many female applicants fail during the hiring process. Our physical agility test is a timed test. He explains it originally a 7 minute test has now been increased to a 10 minute timeframe with the sole purpose of trying to hire more women.

[Joe Getty]

Um.

[Jack Armstrong]

And there lies the problem. It goes into some detail. There lies the problem with changing standards in the name of diversity and inclusion. You get a workforce full of under qualified personnel who have otherwise wouldn't otherwise have been hired. And he's responding to the point that Ms. Andrews makes in her essay that it's an entirely one sided set of standards. You must have X number of women or you will be sued. And that's incredibly expensive. And so organizations have erred to the other side because nobody sues for lack of men. Not at this point. And so you have a fire department that has to bend its standards to accommodate that. Moving along. Super interesting guys writes Manonymous. We see it in schools, that's for sure. Most principals are females and the traditional male role of vice principal discipline has all but been eliminated completely.

[Joe Getty]

This is from I. I knew because I had my kids in school that discipline has been more or less eliminated completely from public schools. But I hadn't put two and two together to figure out why. That's really interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's see. Anna writes. Thanks for covering. Thank you. Thank you for covering. The great feminization at length was excellent. Exceptional hour of radio. Thank you. In my opinion it's the best explanation for what is continuing to go wrong in business and law today. Every American adult needs to hear or read this. High school and college students too. She's listening to it for the second time as she writes. Let's see Todd from San Diego. He says some very nice things about the show. Thanks Todd. You did a great job Conveying the dangers of excessive feminization when it comes to politics, law, the culture, et cetera. My field is religion, and I can tell you that a parallel phenomenon can be observed in that area. In the Western world at least, Christianity has often struggled to balance the masculine and the feminine. Christian spirituality is often put in feminine terms. The Bible says that God is a father and a groom and that believers are brides and that we should be receptive and passive to God's action in our lives. For this reason and others, even if Christianity has been largely run by male clergy, historically its regular practitioners and middle managers have been majority female. It's mothers who teach religion in the home. There's a reason we say church lady and not church dude. Then he Sundays. In the second half of the 20th century, the male female balance got especially out of whack, affecting not just church attendance, but doctrine and morality. Christianity and liberal Judaism became less and less about hard doctrines, intellectual contemplation and heroic practice, all of which attract men. And more about emotions, relationships and self fulfillment. As we would expect, this feminization perpetuating itself, causing men to shy away from religion as something girly and making women even more disproportionately represented in all sorts of areas. Witness the new female Archbishop of Canterbury and her woke views that would be barely recognizable to Christians of a generation ago. That's really interesting. Oh, this is. This is a little snarky and I don't appreciate it.

[Joe Getty]

No room for that on this show.

[Jack Armstrong]

October 21, 2025. A historic first for feminism. The Louvre museum's first female security chief, hired by their first female director, becomes the first woman to lose the French crown jewels. Let's see you good with a little more of this, Jack? I don't wanna.

[Joe Getty]

Sorry, you didn't want anybody mansplaining how to lock the windows. Is that what happened there at the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Louvre can verify the great feminization? As a male grad student. Right. We'll call him Joe. Anonymous. Longtime listener. I listened to our two of the show at the insistence of my wife and mom.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Both of whom also love to tune in. My wife especially wanted me to listen as she and I talked about how feminized and hostile academia has become towards conservatives and men in general after having had our own experiences with the great ivory towers of the world. You know, this may be the most interesting aspect of this, is that the most enthusiastic reactions and cheerleading for both the essay and our discussing it yesterday have been women or have come from women.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's you know, I was led into this. I mentioned a couple of weeks ago this woman that I know who she's raised three daughters. And she. And she said, you know, the problem with our politics is all the women. There's just too many crazy women. And started getting to various these sorts of things from a woman who's raised three women.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Joe Anonymous tells a little bit about his background. Then he said he's going to a master's program in California. He says, many times I come home from classes frustrated and demoralized because of the complete inability of many of my cohort to engage in reasonable and rational dialogue. Several times when attempting to point out that in fact, the levels of racism today are not the same as those experienced by slaves. And during the Holocaust, as was an opinion actually promoted by teachers and students, I was shouted down by more than several angry women. Their language is aggressive, but the. But not the more masculine, violent type of aggression. No, it is commentary that belittles, maligns and insults and then excludes, as Ms. Andrews wrote, more feminine by nature of its social targeting nature and greater difficulty in resolving. Well, they didn't want to resolve the difference in opinion. They just wanted to ostracize you for having a difference in opinion. In the past two weeks alone, I've had lectures from my professors telling me that men and maleness will ultimately lead to rape and sexual assault inevitably. And he goes into a bunch of more examples. Let's see, here's Josh from Kentucky. Just listen. Very insightful and interesting. Oh, my gosh. This is. This might be my. Well, not my favorite because they're all great, but listen to this. Dads, please. I wish I had heard this when I was a dad of young kids. I wanted to share something I did with my older son after hearing an interview you guys did with the author of a book about how men are disappearing in America. And one of the points he made was how we don't have a strong tradition of rites of passage in our culture today. That's funny. I don't remember who that was, who that interview was. Anyway, if I can figure it out or if you remember letting us know, I'll dig it up. That interview really inspired me to be proactive and intentional with my kids. I have two boys and two girls, and I wrestled with the idea of rites of passage and what I could do with my kids. I found out I was part Jewish a number of years ago through 23andMe and looked into what bar mitzvahs are. I love the idea of having an event to signify a change in vision for the kid. Becoming a boy from a boy to a man, or in the case of a girl, from a girl to a woman. The Bat Mitzvah. But I wasn't going to have an actual bar Mitzvah. Here's the brilliant part. The Bible talks about iron sharpening iron. Men need to challenge other men. So I came up with the idea of selecting three men that I highly respect to have one on one conversations with my son who's about to turn 13 years old. Each individual talked about their experiences in life and what it means to be a man. The whole event really had an impact on him. And I plan on doing the same thing with my second son when he turns 13. Having my wife do the same with our two girls, Josh from Kentucky. That's one of the best ideas I've ever heard.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's pretty good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Love that.

[Joe Getty]

Bar mitzvah's a pretty good idea. Just the concept of okay, you know, because my kids are there. Things are changing now. You're no longer a little kid. This is what the world expects out of you now.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's pretty good, right? I remember being told several times as a kid. It's funny, it just popped back into my mind. My dad traveled a fair amount for his job when I was a little kid. And I remember being told several times by various people, all right, your dad's away for a week. You're the man of the house now. And of course, whatever age I was, it was, you know, slightly ridiculous.

[Joe Getty]

But it made me stop and think, desserts for everybody.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like, we'll start with dessert. But it made me think, okay, what does that mean? I need to be alert and help have our family do what families do. And. And that was not. That was. I felt honored by that as a kid.

[Joe Getty]

That suggests women can't do it is what it suggests.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God. That was masculinity. Well crafted sarcasm there. I respect that. A couple more real quick. Anonymous Rights. Loved the whole discussion. Thank you. It rings true. You see it in CBS hiring Barry Weiss. She has the masculine quality of holding people to accountability and truth. Likewise, my aerospace engineer daughter is rocketed up the ladder because she is a woman with masculine qualities. The company needs straightforward engineers as well as women. They're hard to find. She complains about some of the subpar women she interviews and tries not to hire. They get multiple interviews and the outstanding men who aren't hired. She works with a government contractor who is constantly asking her why she doesn't have more women on her team. At the same time complimenting her for the speed in which she gets projects done. She comments on the weird fixation by the government overseer who thinks she is sexist as a woman. The one thing that saves her is how racially diverse her department is. She does have two great women.

[Joe Getty]

Why do we care about this at all?

[Jack Armstrong]

Hire the best people.

[Joe Getty]

First of all, I also don't think you should say your aerospace engineer daughter rocketed up the ladder. I don't. I don't like.

[Jack Armstrong]

I disagree. I think that's perfect. And finally this from frequent correspondent and great correspondent 20 year school Marmion. It would be interesting to note the difference in gender of school administration administrators from 10, 15, 20 years ago to today. Woke curriculum decisions and discipline policies are directly related to the fact that more and more schools are now led by the ladies. As we turn away from having true disciplinarians in our head offices and toward being led by pseudo school psychologists, it's no wonder that our students are suffering from the soft bigotry of low expectations. As a merit loving free speech enthusiast and longtime teacher, I'm often the lone voice speaking up for accountability and consequences when working through a situation with other staff members. Many times I've left discussions thinking they must think I'm the meanest old lady that ever lived. Lest we forget the root meaning of the word discipline is to teach. Onward, I suppose. Let's hear it for the voice 20 year school mom, one of a chorus of women who said Amen.

[Joe Getty]

Good stuff there. And if you want to comment on that again, you know you know where to reach us. Text, line and email and all that sort of stuff. It's a heck of a topic. More on the way. Stay here.

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[George Santos]

I want to make sure that kids meet me and know thou shall not steal, thou shall not lie, thou shall not cheat because then you, thou shall avoid going to prison.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's nice. George Santos, now that he's out of prison, is going to help the next generation of kids. Not lie, he claims. We'll delve into.

[Jack Armstrong]

When I think of a mentor for my kids, I think of George Santos.

[Joe Getty]

Because George Santos voted Republican, Trump commuted his sentence and he is out of jail now. He went on to say this.

[George Santos]

I've gone down in the ball of flame with the self destructive nature. I look back at some of my past statements and behavior. I'm absolutely embarrassed. I was so caught up with grief and anger and hate. And it's part of my journey is to accept that this is my own doing and it's going to take me to show them through action that I'm much better than my past.

[Joe Getty]

It's all for the children. Okay?

[Jack Armstrong]

You're a con man. And the con continues. This is the latest shape of it. Trump commuting his sentence was inexcusable.

[Joe Getty]

He's mentally ill. I don't, I don't, you know, I think his brain doesn't work right. But. So we'll revisit his lies briefly. I got a long list of them. I claimed to be a star college volleyball player. He never attended that college. He never played volleyball. He didn't, he wasn't the star of the team that helped them win a state championship. I mean, that's one of the most hilarious lies I've ever heard anybody ever tell.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think he claimed to be a volleyball player because he wants to wear those little shorts.

[Joe Getty]

He claimed his company lost a tearfully claimed in an interview one time that his company lost four employees in the Pulse nightclub shooting. That never happened. He did have a charity one time called Friends of Pets United trying to raise money. But he, all he did was steal the $3,000 it raised for a homeless Navy vet service dog's life saving surgery. He stole the money. He claimed his grandparents were, that he was Jewish and that his grandparents were Holocaust survivors. He's not Jewish and therefore obviously his parents did not survive the Holocaust.

[Jack Armstrong]

Didn't he say, well, I'm Jewish?

[Joe Getty]

After he got caught? He said that, right? He said, well, I meant Jewish. He was a Wall street whiz at Goldman Sachs, managed $80 million in a portfolio. He never worked there at all. He produced the Broadway musical Spider Man. He didn't have anything to do with it whatsoever. His mother died in 911 in one of the World Trade center buildings. She did not. She is alive and well in another country. And it goes on and on.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's just completely graduated at the top of his class. Oh, no, that was Joe Biden. Sorry.

[Joe Getty]

Complete. Good one. Completely crazy. Okay, we got more on the way. If you missed a segment, get the podcast.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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