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Joe Getty
Live from Studio C. Say, senor. A dimly lit room deep within the bowels of the Armstrong. You get a communications compound on Friday, and today we're toiling under the title
Jack Armstrong
of the show more like Memo of Underwhelming. Or if you prefer, uncle sam boxes, kangaroo filament 11.
Joe Getty
Ah, it's too bad you just came up with the MOU as memorandum of Underwhelming, because that's good. I mean, and the story's kind of over, so.
Jack Armstrong
The story is just beginning, my friend.
Joe Getty
Using the term MOU is kind of going to come to an end, though. I mean, that was. That was all the talk there up until who's seen mou. When are they going to release mou? And Memorandum of Underwhelming is pretty good.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Speaking of which, and we won't belabor this. We've talked about it enough. But I'm glad you didn't pay me the $10 yet, because this is very controversial. Trump signed the MOU, but then JD was supposed to go to a signing ceremony, right? And that got postponed.
Joe Getty
I was actually just thinking about this. This is why. This is why law run the world. This is why you get to get lawyers. We should have had lawyers involved in our bet. I bet $10 that the deal would not be signed. Did I say Friday or by Friday? I don't remember. But it wasn't signed on Friday. It was signed before Friday.
Jack Armstrong
Listen, I got no nits on me. Quit picking them, huh?
Joe Getty
And then you've got the. Well, so they're not doing the. Is it the signing or is it the ceremony that matters? And I would imagine it's the signing. That. But anyway, not a good start. When they were supposed to go and meet and start the negotiations about missiles and stuff like that.
Karen Kilgariff
And.
Joe Getty
And no, they canceled it because Hezbollah attacked Israel. Israel attacked Hezbollah overnight. And that is line one in the Memorandum of Underwhelming. Line one is, hostilities end and on all fronts.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. No, no.
Joe Getty
Israel repeatedly says we didn't agree to that.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Can't make us agree to that.
Jack Armstrong
No kidding.
Joe Getty
Anyway, well, we'll talk about that more later. What was the thing with Uncle Sam? Boxing? Who?
Jack Armstrong
Uncle Sam Boxes kangaroo film at 11. We were playing the Aussies this afternoon. The US and Aussies in the World Cup.
Joe Getty
The Socceroos.
Jack Armstrong
Yes.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Very exciting for my house.
Jack Armstrong
I have a conflict and I'm very bummed about it.
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I'll.
Jack Armstrong
I'll be DVRing it, but do you
Joe Getty
know what time it is? So what time the. The match?
Jack Armstrong
Three o' clock Eastern, noon Pacific.
Joe Getty
Oh, it is. It's that early in the day?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Oh, cool.
Jack Armstrong
From Free Adult. Don't step on any needles on the field, guys. That's the key thing to avoid. Never mind the awesome Aussie defense. Don't step on any junkie needles.
Joe Getty
Some noon west coast time. So I'm running errands today, so we'll have it on in the car as we drive around. Cool.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, wow. Yeah. Soccer without the. The excitement of soccer without the dist. Action of being able to see it. Yes, that does sound like a dream come true. Or you could.
Joe Getty
You could say it that way. You could say, it's not like I'm gonna miss anything by not watching.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, I disagree completely.
Joe Getty
They can tell me if somebody scores. Well, I don't know anything about strategy, so it. So watching it is worthless for me. I just see people running around, and it looks like they're randomly kicking the ball.
Jack Armstrong
Right? Yeah.
Joe Getty
And everybody cheers, and I think, what. What are y' all excited about? The ball is 50 yards from the goal. What are we cheering about here?
Jack Armstrong
Right, right.
Joe Getty
It's.
Jack Armstrong
It helps if you picture it a lot like basketball, where they. There's a lot of ball movement around the perimeter. They're trying to get mismatches and trying to get the defense to be a little slow to react, and then you exploit that and move forward and blah, blah, blah. But, yeah, it takes a long time, which is why they sing those songs and drink like lunatics. I mentioned this yesterday. The Scotsman descending upon Boston. They drank the Sam Adams Boston Lager dry at the Sam Adams Giant Taphouse. They had to do an emergency thing, and bar owners are Reporting receipts quadruple St. Patrick's Day.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Just because the Scotsmen are in town. Yeah. Having a big time.
Joe Getty
My niece, who lives in Boston, sent out more pictures yesterday of dudes and kilts walking around the subway and stuff like that.
Jack Armstrong
Love it. I tell you what, this whole phenom phenomenon of online influencers from all over the world saying this country's freaking great. I've heard all this negative stuff. These are the nicest, friendliest people in the world. They're thrilled to show us their city. Americans are fabulous people. And I'm like, yeah, that's right. We are. Don't forget that we're the most generous,
Joe Getty
welcoming people on Earth, generally.
Jack Armstrong
You know, except during the Biden years, if you have permission to come in. But yeah, God dang it, we're great people in a great country. Let's not wallow in negativism all the time.
Joe Getty
Unless we lose to the Socceroos. Then I want them jailed.
Jack Armstrong
Oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. Ship them off to that El Salvador prison you're such a big fan of. Where they shove your head down in your white jumpsuit. Exactly.
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Jack Armstrong
That's not going to endear us to any tourists.
Joe Getty
No, they won't think that's good at all. Now I'm trying not to talk at all about the whole Iran thing because I think it's, it's, it's really quite a dealio. But we'll get to that soon enough, I'm sure.
Jack Armstrong
You want to hear my favorite headline of the day?
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Sure.
Jack Armstrong
Here it is. Obama slams America's fixation on wealth and fame ahead of star studded launch party for $850 million shrine to himself. That's hilar. Hilarious. We're too focused for the win.
Joe Getty
He says to Bruce Springsteen and Bono and Ari Ariana Grande in the first row.
Jack Armstrong
Was that some sort of scientific irony test? You know, what's the purest distilled irony that can be produced or what? That's hilarious.
Joe Getty
Yes.
Jack Armstrong
That is 68, $50 million shrine to himself.
Joe Getty
That is 60% enriched irony right there.
Jack Armstrong
Right? That's weapons grade. Yeah, weapons grade. Hilarious.
Joe Getty
That is funny.
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That is.
Joe Getty
I never thought about that. But that is absolutely true about that crowd. They're always talking about, you know, the regular guy and the rich getting away with this and that and you're, you're the most elite assembled group that could possibly exist.
Jack Armstrong
Right, right. All the energy in the Democratic party is the college educated, wealthy. It's crazy.
Joe Getty
Well, and the whole presidential library thing has clearly turned into something that wasn't the original point. It was supposed to be. You gotta house the documents from an administration somewhere and then scholars and researchers can go and dig through them like that. Robert Caro, I read the LBJ book. Spends, spent, has spent his whole life practically at the LBJ library as he says, turning over millions of pages over the years, looking, reading every line that that's what they're. But they just kind of recently it's, I'm going to build a giant like monument to myself. It's a shrineseum with the donations of people that I helped out over the years or maybe can still help out in the future. Yeah, a shrine. That's not, that's so not American.
Jack Armstrong
I would agree. Yeah. And honestly there is a lot to like. The Obama thing, it's a giant community center, you know, sports courts for Kids and. And, you know, educational resources and that sort of thing, which is lovely, but. Yeah. In general. Yeah. The shrines to presidents. Why? I mean, some of them deserved, like, monuments and such, but a very few.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Interesting. I didn't take in any of it. I just couldn't. You said you turned it on for like five minutes.
Jack Armstrong
No, I think it was 10 seconds. Michelle was slathering praise on her man for being a visionary and all and a far seeing, you know, sage and saint and the rest of it. I'm like, oh, God. And I just. I bailed.
Joe Getty
He'd have won a third term if we allowed that sort of thing.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. Interesting. Michelle Obama is a man.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
That was one of the speakers.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that was the. That was the wrestler from last weekend at the UFC match.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, I'd misunderstood. Yeah.
Joe Getty
That's not helpful.
Jack Armstrong
You're not keynote speaker there.
Joe Getty
That's dividing us. That's not bringing us together.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Getty
Come on, let's start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this. It is Friday, June 19th. It's Juneteenth, right? It's today. Juneteenth, Correct.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
The year 2026. We are Armstrong and Giddy. Are we racist if we're working here? If we're working on Juneteenth, does that make you a racist?
Jack Armstrong
I think so, yes. All right, let's begin. Now, officially, according to FCC rules, regulations, here comes the show at Mark.
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Jack Armstrong
We really did it, man. We really did it. There's a lot of people that have a lot of negative stuff to say. There's a lot of people who have a lot of opinions, but when you
Joe Getty
prove them wrong, you really don't have to say to them.
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Joe Getty
All. Thank you. Jalen Brunson of the New York Knicks, who's become the most celebrated basketball player on the planet, who was the 33rd pick in the NBA draft a couple of years back, second round. Everybody passed on him at least once.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. Just amazing. I am not an NBA fan. I am certainly not a New York Knicks fan. But I've become a giant fan of the Knicks win and the reaction in New York City. And it crystallized in my head through two things. I read. One, Arthur Brooks, who's the psychologist, he writes about happiness and unhappiness for the Free Press. And he was describing how sports fans are happier people in general than non sports fans. There have been all sorts of scientific studies about it, and we can dig into that because I found it super Interesting. But the other thing was Peggy Noonan quoted a friend who was observing all this and how happy people were and watching the scenes of the crowds in the street day after day after day. And the fact that it was an UN Internet thing that was happening. People were physically with each other, they were looking at each other. Nobody was scrolling with their phones. Very few of them had their phones up to video, take pictures. Everybody was interacting with each other in a great American city. It was an UN Internet phenomenon. And I thought, wow, right? At least we do that with sports.
Joe Getty
I'm intrigued by this concept that sports fans are happier than non sports fans. I think that makes sense based on just my anecdotal. Having lived my life.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. And they asked the question, if you're a skeptic, good for you. You should be. Is it just that happy people like sports or that sports make people happy? And again, we'll dig into those studies and spell that out for you.
Joe Getty
That's a good question.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
The problem is when you're a sports fan, your team doesn't always win the championship. In fact, they don't always even have a winning season.
Jack Armstrong
So how about those years? Doesn't matter.
Joe Getty
Doesn't matter.
Jack Armstrong
No, not at all.
Joe Getty
Just something to focus on. That's not inflation or war or it's
Jack Armstrong
interaction and something in common with friends, acquaintances and strangers. There's definitely a bridge to other human beings.
Joe Getty
There's definitely community aspect to it. No doubt whatsoever.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that's very, very interesting.
Joe Getty
Maybe I'll have to rethink mine. I was, I was huge into sports for almost my entire life, from a little kid until I had kids. When I had kids I thought, I ain't got time for this anymore. I kind of bailed on all sports. But sure, yeah, we've got headlines on the way. What do you think of that? Do you have any thoughts on that? The whole being a happier for your sports fan? Text line 415295 KFTC.
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Hetty. She starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?
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I mean, I watch the Aviator so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator, right?
Georgia Hardstark
She says he's a quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well.
Karen Kilgariff
Give us examples.
Georgia Hardstark
I know they do get along intellectually and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings and she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamar and Billie Jean King.
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my headline. If I was writing a headline. JD Vance thinks you're stupid.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. Wow. I sense a hidden meaning there.
Joe Getty
J.D. vance thinks he can say anything in front of you. And because he went to Yale and you didn't, you'll just buy it or something or. He's so persuasive, you. I just was watching him on Fox and he just says stuff that's not true over and over again, very emphatically. Yeah, they won't get a dime until they've agreed to all our nuclear blah, blah. That's just flat freaking not true, dude.
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No.
Jack Armstrong
And nobody believes it.
Joe Getty
Not a dime of U.S. dollars. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,. Ain't the U.S. part of the dollars that bothers me.
Jack Armstrong
Right? It's just dollars. Who cares where they come from? He thinks you're stupid. Yeah. All right, well, we're not, damn it. And neither is Heather Myers. Let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story. Heather, take it away.
Heather Myers
That could be arguable. Good morning, Joe and Jack, I hope that your Friday's off to. All right, let's start with some of the headlines. CNN saying US Iran talks postponed as Israel clashes with Hezbollah. CBS News, Israel Hezbollah fighting intensifies in Lebanon as next phase talks are delayed. And from NBC News, Obama says US May be worse off now than before Iran war.
Joe Getty
So starting day one, the strait is open.
Jack Armstrong
So up to.
Joe Getty
I forget what the number is. Hundreds of millions of dollars. It is still pouring into Iran with the straight open. And the talks over the nuclear part have been delayed. It's already happened.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. And look, this is not patting myself on the back, but when it emerged that one of the points of the deal was that all fighting stops, including Israel and Hezbollah. I'm like, whoa, whoa, that's a non starter.
Joe Getty
That'll never happen.
Jack Armstrong
That's silly. It's ridiculous. And here it didn't last, you know, long enough to make a decent ham sandwich. They wouldn't eat in Israel because ham's not kosher. Anyway, back to you, Heather, npr.
Heather Myers
Luigi Mangioni's lawyers withdraw plans for psychiatric defense.
Joe Getty
Okay, there's only thing, one thing we can do here. Joe not only considered going to law school. He filled out some of the paperwork.
Jack Armstrong
Why?
Joe Getty
Yes, why did they throw that out for like a cup of coffee yesterday and then pull it back?
Jack Armstrong
I wonder whether they talk talked him into it and he later said wait, no, I don't want to do that. Okay, it's entirely possible. Best guess or they're all crazy. He's crazy. No, he's not crazy. He's crazy Again, that's pretty crazy.
Heather Myers
From the Associated Press. California labor union offers to scale back billionaire tax proposal after pushback.
Jack Armstrong
Huh? Yeah, their cash grab was too greedy and obvious.
Joe Getty
But it's already on the ballot. How does, how does that work?
Heather Myers
They are asking the governor to get behind this and if he does, they'll scale it back to 2% instead of 5%.
Joe Getty
Can you do that when the voters have already voted on putting on the ballot?
Jack Armstrong
I. Inside the paper where the petitions and all. Yeah, I'd love to know more about the legalities of that. They just. It's so naked to just shameless. Cash grab.
Heather Myers
Gallup this morning. Adult US Adults ability to afford health care at a five year low.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I noticed
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from the Chicago Tribune, Obama's presidential center in Chicago will be a beacon of hope for democracy.
Joe Getty
That's what we needed, a beacon of hope.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, for democracy. Specifically the old boh.
Joe Getty
We need more bohs in every town.
Jack Armstrong
Keep your pants on. Tribune.
Heather Myers
Finally this morning from the Babylon bee. Iran wins 300 billion dollar cash prize for placing second in war.
Joe Getty
That's pretty good.
Jack Armstrong
Never disappoints. Yes. Well done. Thanks.
Joe Getty
You know, I was listening to Jonah Goldberg yesterday. How much time I got, Michael? Like five seconds. Well, I have to explain what but one of Iran's main goals looks like is going to be met. And that's dividing the United States and Israel. Maybe that was their goal.
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Georgia Hardstark
We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.
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Georgia Hardstark
Hedi. She starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?
Karen Kilgariff
I mean, I watch the Aviator so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator, right?
Georgia Hardstark
She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well.
Karen Kilgariff
Give us examples.
Georgia Hardstark
I know they do get along intellectually and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings and she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like what the two would look like as a plane and that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamar and Billie
Karen Kilgariff
Jean King presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5.
Jack Armstrong
Goodbye.
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We'll pack up the RV and know
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Joe Getty
I am horrified by what has happened to the ran this whole Oran thing. I think it's terrible, but not everybody apparently does. And I also think JD Vance is lying to you. But more on that later.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I've run across a couple really interesting takes recently that definitely they shine the light from a different side. Might not change anybody's minds, but perspectives worth hearing. But first and most importantly, it's time for the Friday tradition. Let's take a fond look back at the week that was its cow Clips of the Week Clips of the Week. Michelle Obama is a man. Am I right America? Sadly, due to the construction of data centers and the impending water wars, the most useful college majors now are foraging
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in hand to hand combat.
Jack Armstrong
Go ahead and cry. After 53 years, the Knicks are finally NBA champions once again. No one is getting left behind this time. Yes, it's basically a medical emergency. We were notified that we have a possible Ebola case on board.
Joe Getty
So that means 30 equals 6, which equals 8. You know what also equals 8? 4 unrelated 2 equals 6.
Jack Armstrong
I want want my country back. He's a stupid son of a bitch to get me. He's coming after my wife Jen, a public servant. I want to be lighting you up every single day.
Joe Getty
And now I don't have to worry
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The paradox of California today is a successful economy attached to a failing model of governance.
Jack Armstrong
Phrase I learned early in my career
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in the New York field office. And that's don't choke on your own smoke.
Jack Armstrong
This is a memorandum of understand. The coolest thing about the progress we've made over the last few weeks. The Iran deal that we made is going to bring a lot of success to the world.
Joe Getty
We are prepared to release frozen funds.
Jack Armstrong
Iranians in charge. The killers and thugs are still in charge. They're going to take that money and recover everything. But isn't it worth trying? These fools who think I haven't been
Joe Getty
Tough enough on Iran are either jealous
Jack Armstrong
of bad people or stupid. You can't tell a country whether Israel, Iran, they're not allowed to have any self defense. It's common sense. They don't want to get bombed, they don't want to get hit. Know your rights and for the love of Mike, don't ever give them up. I'm Mike and I approve this message. Still Baligan, Flo Baligan.
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Jack Armstrong
Want to hear that Bob Odenkirk thing again? Maybe later in the show today. I love that his better call Saul talking about how precious our rights are and how we better not give them up. Love that, love that, love that.
Joe Getty
So Joe, text me yesterday that he ran into somebody who thinks it's a good idea that Trump has made this deal. And I haven't heard a lot of that. So I was interested.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. A couple of perspectives. A good friend of mine who did business all over the world, and I mean all over the world, said first of all, because he's, he's done business in negotiating all these countries, he says negotiating in China is really hard. India is worse and Iran is impossible because of the utter lack of candor. And they're just utterly dishonest and manipulative and will steal from you as they're shaking your hand. And just, just, just culturally if you can get over on the other guy, that scene is clever. Not as despicable, but clever.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it's, it's hard to fully appreciate cultural differences.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Because if somebody, if you sat down at a table and you were doing
Jack Armstrong
a deal about a car or a
Joe Getty
house or anything in the United States and it turns out the guy lied to your face. Like the words in the contract you're gonna sign were completely different than what he was saying to you with words,
Jack Armstrong
you would think he was a scumbag.
Joe Getty
And everybody you told the think he was a scumbag.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
But apparently in some countries that's seen as clever.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, well, yeah, man. Yeah, you should have checked more. He painted over all that mold that's on you. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, but this same friend said he is much more positive about the memorandum. Memorandum of underwhelming, as I called it this morning, because he said the world economy was suffering much more than we feel in the United States. And there were several countries, whether friends or like frenemies like China that were on the verge of panicking and were really seriously saying, hey, we've got to resolve this thing quickly. And so that was the idea. Having set back their nuclear program for years, probably that Trump was just under much greater pressure than we understood. And this will get the world economy going again. So one perspective, on the other hand, I think I was trying to find it. I think the Journal maybe has an article about how the economies of South Korea, Japan and Singapore and Asia is just exploding with wealth, all based on tech. But yeah, folks from all over the third world are flocking Asia now because there's so much money rolling around there. So I shoot, I don't know what's going on. And then I came from across this from the fabulous Neil Ferguson, who says on its face, Trump's 14 points. He's comparing it to Wilson's 14 points at the end of World War I. Right now Trump's 14 points look as wretched as Wilson's 14 points looked splendid in 1918. But who can be sure what lies ahead if the most perilous time for Iran's horrible regime is not when it is under intense bombardment, but when it makes peace and smells the approach of boatloads of money? What if at the same time it turns out that the IRGC's equally blood soaked confederate, Vladimir Putin is in deeper trouble than we realize with his war in Ukraine? Moscow got pounded the other day anyway. And what if the reason oil prices didn't even go higher than they did in the past four months is that China's domestic economy is in free fall, as some numbers indicate? What if, in short, President Trump's luck holds as it has held so often throughout his 80 years of often reckless risk taking?
Joe Getty
Obviously that all could happen, but that's counting on your luck holding as opposed to a strategy. Luck's a heck of a strategy.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I think luck. I think he tossed out that word too easily. Let me read his next sentence. In the end, the wording of this lousy memorandum of understanding may matter less than the second and third order consequences of Trump's Iran war. The economic consequences to date have certainly been far less damaging than I foresaw in the earlier in the conflict. Maybe, just maybe, the same will turn out to be true of the geopolitical consequences.
Joe Getty
Then what's with the complete bull s? I wish I could say the word that J.D. vance is spreading around the last couple of days. All the crap about, look, you know what's cool? They don't even want a weapon anymore. They've come to the conclusion that was a bad idea. That's crap.
Jack Armstrong
The idea has ever lied to me about a good thing for me, right?
Joe Getty
Or Trump and JD Are Both saying the same thing with the. Wait a second. It wouldn't be fair to tell Iran they can't have rockets when. When Saudi Arabia can have rockets. What. What is this equivalence between our enemies and our friends? Where the hell did this come from?
Jack Armstrong
Trump says stuff like that a lot. He said it about Russia. He said it about China.
Joe Getty
That is nuts.
Jack Armstrong
I think he thinks it's a bargaining maneuver. I don't know. I find it despicable.
Joe Getty
Well, I can tell you what Commentary, the magazine that stands up for Israel, thinks about it in a second. But first, this from Mark Halperin's piece today, getting to what your friend was saying. Halperin talking to officials in the White House. Officials directly involved in the negotiations argue that allowing Rand to sell oil is a relatively small price to pay if it lowers gasoline prices in America, stabilizes energy markets, and creates a pathway to preventing a nuclear crisis. With that third one is very thin, it seems to me, since they've already today delayed the talks. Day one. The talks have been delayed.
Jack Armstrong
There is zero indication that the future is promising in terms of nuclear negotiations. There's no reason to think that. But they repeat it over and over again.
Joe Getty
The argument boils down to this. Every other potential benefit disappears if negotiations collapse. In that sense, they see the deal not as an act of weakness, but as an exercise in risk management. It a gamble, but a calculated one. Uh, I like this part. Nobody inside the administration that Mark Halpern talks to seems to be under any illusion about the odds. They might be talking like we're talking. Trump advisors almost universally acknowledge this is a long shot. Their view is simply that a long shot beats no shot. How do then you shouldn't have started the war if you weren't willing to go through. To the point that you're just gonna make them go along with this. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Or do we just knock their program backward over and over again through the years? It's a disease that can't be cured. It'd be too costly to cure it. So we just, you know, we knocked the symptoms back every so often. So I was the Tylenol of a good solid bombing.
Joe Getty
So I was listening to Jonah Goldberg yesterday of the Dispatch, who I haven't agreed with much in quite a while, but he was making the point that Iran has cleverly one of their great goals, in addition to having enough rockets to overwhelm Israel's Iron Dome at some point. And they were getting close. I had missed this part of the story, but I guess Marco was talking about this at the beginning. That's one of the reasons we needed to go to war now. Iran was approaching the place where they would have so many rockets that they could overwhelm the Iron Dome forces and then they would actually be able to blow up Tel Aviv with. With conventional weapons. Weapons they don't need a nuke. And now we're gonna allow them to have rockets again because it's not fair to tell one country they can have rockets in one country. Then it's perfectly fair. It's the way the world works.
Jack Armstrong
It's what's being a superpower is all about. That's the fun.
Joe Getty
Well, why do some countries have nuclear weapons and some don't? Because some countries we trust with them and some we don't. It's just. It's a non. Again, J.D. vance thinks you're stupid is my headline there. But the other part, that the second best thing that Iran could get is to drive a wedge between Israel and the United States. Israel exists because of the help of the United States since its beginning. They get so much military financial help from us. And now you're getting this. Israel gets rockets but Iran doesn't. That wouldn't be fair. Talk out of JD Vance. Commentary magazine, which is well respected in your think tank world, has this piece from Abe Greenwald. Today, Vance drops the pretense. J.D. vance's Jew baiting is no longer hiding in plain sight. It's no longer something he has to be that has to be inferred from his choice of anti Semitic allies, his serial flirtations with the rhetoric of the podcast.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
Because, you know, he's friends with Tucker and that sort of stuff.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
Or his clear displeasure whenever the Jewish state asserts itself in a way that conflicts with his political factions. Priorities. It's now out in the open, open. We get it. Everyone hates Israel and maybe they're all onto something. Vance has been itching to say this for a long time. And Donald Trump's failure in Iran finally gave him the opportunity. The President is letting jdb jd. Turns out he's exactly who I thought he was. So that's the view from the Israeli think tank community. Anyway.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
JD's part of the whole Tucker, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, Israel is the root of a lot of problems crap. I don't know if I believe that or not. Although that whole why does Israel get rockets and Iran doesn't? What?
Jack Armstrong
That's a bizarre state. Or.
Joe Getty
Or lecturing Israel about firing on Hezbollah. You realize Hezbollah, the other day, when this happened, the other day was Hezbollah blew up A school bus shot at a school bus in Israel. Israel fights back. And then, of course, the world headlines are Israel attacks Hezbollah.
Jack Armstrong
Leaving out the first part, right? Right. Yeah. And Hezbollah is Iran.
Joe Getty
Right? Right.
Jack Armstrong
Unblanking. Believable. I don't know what to make of it.
Joe Getty
How about the fact that day one, the negotiations get blown up?
Jack Armstrong
That's a slight delay. I wouldn't worry about it. It's rainy.
Joe Getty
Do you think they'll ever sit down? I. I'd rather they didn't. I don't want to see JD Vance smiling and shaking hands with a leader from the Revolutionary Guard.
Jack Armstrong
They'll go through the motions. Yeah. At some point,
Joe Getty
they have to.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. I mean, it would be so incredibly laughable if they didn't even have meeting number one. I don't think anybody wants that.
Joe Getty
Legitima. Legitimizing one of the worst regimes on earth. That's something. Never thought I would see that. All right, we got Mailbag on the way and lots of other stuff. Stay here.
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She says he's a, quote, very strange man, but they do get along really well.
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Georgia Hardstark
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Jack Armstrong
Damn it. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day.
Joe Getty
Yay.
Jack Armstrong
Sent along by Brian frequent correspondent Brian from Santa Rosa. Thanks Brian. From D.H. lawrence, the great writer.
Joe Getty
Big fan.
Jack Armstrong
Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children brought up easy let it slip away. Poor fools and their great grandchildren are once more slaves.
Joe Getty
Seems to be human nature. Not sure if you can interrupt that.
Jack Armstrong
It's very very difficult. I think you can just delay it as long as you can. As Reagan put it, we're never more than a couple of generations away from losing our liberty.
Joe Getty
Or just look at your absolutely true. Just look at your own family dynamics of your own. They'll swing in your own family.
Jack Armstrong
Family.
Joe Getty
It's not easy to to arrest that track.
Jack Armstrong
No, no. Growing up poor yields a different person than growing up affluent. On average across a population. There's no doubt of it. No doubt about it. Mailbag.
Joe Getty
I can't wait till later talk about how great my first crock pot meal turned out. It was amazing.
Jack Armstrong
Excellent. Drop us Note mailbag@armstrongandgetti.com yesterday yesterday we we played this clip of Gavin Newsom I'd like to say something to my wife. These times are not normal. They're not ordinary. I love you and I'm sorry he's doing this. And Jack observed, that's funny that he has the same cadence as Bill Shatner as Captain Kirk in the original track. And now I can't get out of my head. Neither can. Neither can Brian. Different Brian. Dr. Brian. He does sound like Kirk when you said California, the final frontier. I effing spit out my drink. That's funny. Yeah, I know. That's a weird speaking style.
Joe Getty
If that's his I'm mad speaking style. I mean, he should work on that.
Jack Armstrong
Stan says, you got to hear this. It's got to be blaring from the Trump motorcade. Undoubtedly the. Undoubtedly the theme song to Trump's entire two terms. I don't think a single person in the entire world would disagree with me. Imagine Trump singing this in karaoke. It is, of course, the Molly Hatchet classic Flirting with Disaster, which is a pretty good Trump walk up song, as it were. We can't play it for you, Stan, because of weird licensing laws with music and podcasting. Anyway, moving along, Aaron writes, happy Juneteenth. Check your privilege. I actually do check my privilege daily. But race has nothing to do with it. I pray, thank you, Jesus, that I was born in America to two great parents who loved me, cared for me, and taught me how to be a good man. I thank him for my wife and children and our quality of life because I know it is not common to live as well as we do. Again, not even a single thought about race. If anybody thinks I'm missing something racial in my practice of gratitude, that says more about them than it does of me.
Joe Getty
Yeah, if you were born in the United States, that's. That's a huge legacy. Up on having a good life in the history of the world then if you got a good family. Also.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, we got a couple of emails pointing out that Juneteenth is a stupid holiday. I want to talk about that. My feelings are a little more ambivalent than that.
Joe Getty
Well, I don't like federal holidays, period. So it's not just because it's Juneteenth. I'd like to get rid of like all but three.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. It was born of the great awokening.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And the Biden administration, so that's enough to despise it. But as a historical day, it's interesting thing. And I hate that it's become woke ified. Moving along on Seattle's incredible drug problems John from Boise writes first. He misses Katie and wants her to come back. We all do. Seattle during my 30 years of law enforcement in the East San Francisco Bay, we were very active in drug enforcement. Back in the old days before the George Soros funded DA's we had the ability to arrest many drug addicts for being on the under the influence and possession. Here are my conclusions. 1. If people are sent to jail, if only for a week, once they are sober and are able to they are able able to make clearer decisions when they get out. Saw it over and over again.
Joe Getty
2.
Jack Armstrong
The easiest way to get a young mother off drugs is to arrest her for under the influence and call cps. Many moms will stay off drugs to get their kids back. Drug enforcement is a tool which helps many people. It's so true. We've heard that from so many cops and former addicts now.
Joe Getty
Build them a tiny house, give them the needles, let them make their own decisions.
Jack Armstrong
Decisions.
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This fast-paced episode centers on the political fallout and public skepticism surrounding the recently signed "Memorandum of Understanding"—dubbed by Jack as the "Memo of Underwhelming"—relating to U.S.-Iran relations and the broader Middle East peace process. The hosts dissect the controversial deal, reflect on American culture and sports fandom, lampoon political ironies, and critique key political figures. A running theme is the skepticism toward the sincerity and effectiveness of the so-called "historic" memorandum and its associated negotiations.
| Timestamp | Topic/Segment | |-----------|---------------| | 02:54 | Show start; MOU deal, “Memorandum of Underwhelming” | | 03:37 | Trump signs MOU, JD Vance, signing ceremony confusion | | 04:30 | Hostilities between Israel & Hezbollah, undermining the deal | | 07:10 | U.S. hospitality, Americans’ self-esteem, Scottish tourists | | 08:30 | Obama presidential library, irony in politics | | 12:31 | Jalen Brunson, Knicks, community joy | | 13:42 | “Un-Internet phenomenon,” sports fans’ happiness | | 14:03 | Arthur Brooks findings—sports fans are happier | | 19:14 | Critique of JD Vance & U.S.-Iran deal statements | | 22:01 | California billionaire tax proposal and legal details | | 29:55 | Culture of dishonesty in international negotiation | | 33:22 | Risks of the Iran deal; luck vs. strategy | | 35:16 | No hope for nuclear negotiations; administration logic | | 38:05 | Commentary magazine’s critique of JD Vance | | 44:49 | Listener mail: addiction and law enforcement |
True to style, Jack and Joe blend sharp satire, frustration, and genuine curiosity. Their banter is irreverent and pointed, especially when discussing politicians or cultural trends they find hypocritical or unserious. Despite moments of humor, the tone turns serious when addressing the risks of Middle East politics, American unity, and policy impacts—often with exasperation and skepticism.
“Memo of Underwhelming” takes listeners through current events, especially the uneasy, arguably hollow rapprochement between the U.S., Iran, and Israel. An American sense of humor and skepticism threads throughout, tackling sports, holidays, and the persistent ironies of public life and political dialogue. The episode is a lively blend of mockery, warning, and affirmation that—in both sports and international strategy—community, vigilance, and honesty are in short supply but sorely needed.
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