Michael Hanson (3:21)

Wow.

Jack Armstrong (3:22)

He says. I should be clear about something up front. Even though I work in AI, I have almost no influence over what's about to happen. And neither do the vast majority of people in the industry. The future is being shaped by an unbelievably small number of people. A few hundred researchers at a handful of companies. OpenAI, OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, DeepMind, a few others. A single training run managed by a very small team over a few months can produce an AI system that shifts the entire trajectory of the technology. Most of us who work in AI are building on top of foundations we didn't lay. We're watching this unfold the same as you. We just happen to be close enough to feel the ground shaking first. The time is now, not in an eventually, we should talk about this way in a this is happening right now and I need you to understand it way. And this is the part I really liked. Gets closer to understanding it. Um, I know this is real because it happened to me first. Here's the thing nobody outside of tech quite understands yet. The reason so many people in the industry are sounding the alarm right now is because this already happened to us. We're not making predictions. We're telling you what already occurred in our own jobs and warning you that you're next. For years, AI has been improving steadily. Big jumps here and there, but each big jump was spaced out enough that you could absorb them as they came. Then in 2025, last year, new techniques for building these models unlocked a much faster pace of progress. This reminds me of what Elon was talking about the other day. Like at the top of the. We were at the top of the roller coaster. Last year. And now we're in the plunging downward and incredible speed part. That's what this guy is saying.

Michael Hanson (5:01)

And I may vomit. Yes.

Jack Armstrong (5:03)

And then it got even faster. And then faster again. Each new model wasn't just better than the last, it was better by a wider margin. And the time between new model releases was shorter. I was using AI more and more, going back and forth at it less and less. Watching it handle things I used to think required my Expertise. Then on February 5th, which is just a few days ago, two major AI labs released new models on the same day. GPT 5.3, Codex from OpenAI and Opus 4.6 from Anthropic. That's the Claude people, the main competitors to Chat GPT. And something clicked. Not like a light switch, more like the moment you realize the water has been rising around you and is now at your chest. Jesus. This frightens the hell out of me because I don't completely understand it, but I believe this guy.

Michael Hanson (5:51)

Because he doesn't.

Jack Armstrong (5:52)

Seem to be presenting it at a. In a. Like a good get out there and invest sort of way into more of a Just be ready. Things are about to get crazy.

Michael Hanson (6:00)

Yeah. I'm not sensing the conflict of interest that I usually do, that these people are trying to get us excited because they need to raise hundreds of zillions of dollars. But back to the terrifying article.

Jack Armstrong (6:11)

I'm no longer needed for the actual technical work of my job. I describe what I want built in plain English and it just appears. Not a rough draft. I need to fix the finished thing. I tell the AI what I want, walk away from my computer for four hours and come back to find the work done, done well, done better than I would have done it myself with no corrections needed. A couple of months ago, I was going back and forth with AI, guiding it, making edits. Now I just described the outcome and leave. And when I come back, it's perfect. That's just in the last couple of months. It's what. It's what I've been saying, that we're all using these chat bots and feeling like we're engaging in AI, but the chat bots aren't AI. What AI is, is going on in this guy's world and you know, out there in the. In. And. And we don't like, we don't see it.

Michael Hanson (6:59)

Right. Right. We're dealing with supercharged, way, way better search engines.

Jack Armstrong (7:04)

Yeah.

Michael Hanson (7:04)

Essentially.

Jack Armstrong (7:06)

Let me give you an example so you can understand what this actually looks like in practice. I tell the AI I want to build this app, here's what it should do, here's roughly what it should look like. Figure out the user flow, the design, all of it. And it does. It writes tens of thousands of lines of code. Then this is the part that would have been unthinkable a year ago. It opens the app itself, it clicks through the buttons, it tests the features. It uses the app the way a person would. If it doesn't like how something looks or feels, it goes back and changes it on its own. It iterates like a developer would, fixing and refining until it's satisfied. Only once it has decided the app meets its own standards does it come back to me and say, it's ready for you to test. And then when I test it, it's usually perfect. I'm not exaggerating. This is what my Monday looked like this week. Oh, my God.

Michael Hanson (7:56)

Yeah. Yeah. My mind is blown. I'm just casting my mind back through history to the various inventions that have been predicted would, you know, and the need for humans, blah, blah, blah. But they were almost entirely devices that. That supplanted our physical efforts. They were machines that freed up our bodies to do something else, not that completely replaced our brains.

Jack Armstrong (8:22)

Well, and then the pace that had happened, it was like an elephant lumbering across the plains. Your direction, you know, you could see it coming.

Michael Hanson (8:30)

And Eli Whitney invents the cotton gin. Finally gets a farmer to try it. Then it's two farmers, eight years later, farmers all over America, blah, blah, blah. Right? Yeah.

Jack Armstrong (8:40)

Matt Schumer goes on to write, I've always been early to adopt AI tools, but the last few months have shocked me. The last few months. See, that's the thing, you know, I've been reading these books and podcasts, stuff like that. Everything changed, like in the last couple of days with the introduction of those new. Those new features.

Michael Hanson (8:57)

What's making people insane, as I've said many times, is not necessarily the amount of change, but the pace of it. You just can't possibly adapt to it.

Jack Armstrong (9:03)

The last few months have shocked me. These new AI models aren't incremental improvements. This is a different thing entirely.

Michael Hanson (9:13)

Wow.

Jack Armstrong (9:15)

The AI labs made a deliberate choice. They focused on making AI great at writing code first because building AI requires a lot of code. If AI can write code, it can help build the next version of itself. A smarter version, which writes better code, which builds an even smarter version. Making AI great at coding was a strategy that unlocks everything else. That's why they did it first. My job started changing before yours, not because they were targeting software engineers. It was just a side effect of where they chose to aim first. Now they've done it and now they're moving on to everything else. This is a very long article. It goes on to more details of different sectors of the economy that it's going to start jumping into very quickly. We'll.

Michael Hanson (9:56)

Any surprises in that list or is it kind of the usual suspects, accounting law?

Jack Armstrong (10:02)

Well, I'd say the surprises is it's, it encompasses like everything. Oh, we'll post this on Twitter and at the website and you can read the whole thing if you want. But the fact that there's a guy that works in the industry that already knew it was going to be a big deal and it was happening fast. That just in the last like couple of days, in couple of weeks and couple of months has gone from, you know, well, this is really a big deal and happening fast to holy crap, it's happened. Yeah, you know, as you always say, and this is 100% true, what am I supposed to do about it? So I got no, like reaction plan, but it couldn't hurt to be aware of this, could it?

Michael Hanson (10:42)

Well, Jack, AI will never pet your dog or throw a bone for it.

Jack Armstrong (10:46)

Or a tennis ball.

Michael Hanson (10:48)

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Jack Armstrong (11:10)

Probably have an AI robot that can throw the tennis ball. You know, have the dog, the dogs just never get tired of that. Just keep doing that and understand its.

Michael Hanson (11:17)

Barks and say, hey, I totally hear you, man. Some days, some days you get the tennis ball, some days the tennis ball gets you.

Jack Armstrong (11:26)

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Michael Hanson (11:42)

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Jack Armstrong (11:51)

And again, you have appropriately pointed out that a lot of these AI articles, you know, they seem like great for building up the enthusiasm for investing and everything like that. This guy doesn't ever get to the. But here's where it's good for you. You know, every invention in history is actually the more jobs. I mean, he doesn't put that spin on it anywhere. He's just letting us know how much it's improved. The models available today are unrecognizable from what existed six months ago. Wow.

Michael Hanson (12:23)

And where does that leave us? In a hundred different ways. We had a behind the scenes text exchange. I couldn't actually participate. I was out for my birthday dinner yesterday about AI produc music. Specifically, like really sophisticated, unbelievably good music. Where does that leave us as human beings?

Jack Armstrong (12:40)

Final sentence I'll read to you in this very long article.

Michael Hanson (12:45)

Run for your lives.

Jack Armstrong (12:46)

I say it because the gap between public perception and current reality is now enormous. And that gap is dangerous because it's preventing people from preparing. I'd say one place we can pay attention is pay attention to any of the political arguments around this and trying to have any guardrails on it or prepare for it or, you know, when you start hearing these discussions about Universal basic income, don't ignore them as fanciful. That will never happen. It might be happening next. The next election cycle.

Michael Hanson (13:15)

Is this the same government that we've been playing the tapes of them yelling at each other in Congress over fake Epstein claims that they all know are fake?

Jack Armstrong (13:23)

Yes, one and the same.

Michael Hanson (13:24)

They're gonna keep us safe.

Jack Armstrong (13:25)

Okay, Any thoughts on any of this? Text line 415295KFTC Armstrong and G. AI.

Michael Hanson (13:35)

Is really still digital. Ultimately, AI can improve the productivity of humans who build things with their hands or do things with their hands. You know, literally welding, electrical work, plumbing, anything that's physically moving atoms like cooking food or farming, or like anything that's physical, those jobs will exist for a much longer time. But anything that is digital, which is like just someone at a computer doing something, AI is going to take over those jobs. Like lightning coding, anything along those lines, it's going to take over those jobs like lightning. Just like digital computers took over the job of people doing manual calculations, but much faster.

Jack Armstrong (14:16)

So that's Elon. Sounded like it was on the Joe Rogan show. That's interesting. I would wonder what he means by much longer that you'll be able to weld before. Before a robot learns to weld and is better than any welder.

Michael Hanson (14:29)

Given the incredibly accelerating timetable discussed in the prior episode. Do you mean 10 years or like six weeks?

Jack Armstrong (14:37)

Right. And obviously if, even if it was 10 years, it'd be a really, really big deal if those jobs went away. But the digital stuff is going to go away like tomorrow. So we were talking, we were from this, this article from this AI developer trying to alert his friends and just everybody like this has really exploded like in the last couple of weeks, couple of months. This little rundown I thought was good. In 2022, just four years ago, remember 2022? Oh my God, I was a child. In 2022, AI couldn't do basic arithmetic reliability reliably. In 2023, it could pass the bar exam. In 2024, it could write working software and explain graduate level science. By late 2025, some of the best engineers in the world said they had handed over most of their coding work to AI on February 5, 2026. Couple of weeks ago, new models arrived that made everything before them feel like a different era. If you haven't tried AI in the last few months, what exists today would be unrecognizable to you. My part of my problem is I don't have any, I don't have any tasks that I understand to give AI. So our friend Craig said, man, if you haven't tried the paid version of Gemini, that's what this guy says. He says the vast majority of people are using the free versions of the. The gap between the free versions and the pay versions is enormous. Well, it wouldn't be for me because I use AI mostly to answer trivia questions basically. So I mean if I had tasks for it to do, maybe I could really appreciate that. But so yeah, if you aren't using the paid versions of Gemini or Claude or whatever.

Michael Hanson (16:11)

Yeah. This is also shocking to me, but by the way, I think you ought to repeat what you said to me off the air when I was, I made that comparison that, oh, our government that's yelling at each other completely performatively over Jeffrey Epstein. They're the people are going to protect us from this.

Jack Armstrong (16:26)

Yeah. And I think this is going to get our attention pretty quick. It's going to be like people used to talk about the shark attacks before 911 we were discussing shark attacks. Then 911 came. You know, we were so off track. I think we're going to look back on it. We were discussing the Epstein files when the AI tsunami hit. And everybody who does anything digital like Elon just said, is all of a sudden out of work.

Michael Hanson (16:48)

So I'm back to working on music and I'm really happy, I'm really enjoying it. A great Deal. But I've got a song that needs a string quartet arrangement. Picture like the Beatles yesterday, for instance. And I took music theory a long time ago. It was the hardest class I took. I was never great at it. I know the basics. But I was like, hey, ChatGPT. And I actually used the paid version. I said, I'm working on string arrangement for this song, blah, blah, blah. And it said, great, you know, what are the chords? And blah, blah, blah. And I gave it to him. And. And it essentially can just spit out the arrangement for me, including, like, incredibly sophisticated hold back on that instrument in that register. Because when you add it, it's gonna be like opening a door. The effect's gonna be really cool. So stay away from those high notes until you get to. And I'm like, holy crap. This is like, I'm working with George Martin who produced the Beatles, and it's all on my phone. But then I was wrestling with, all right, how far do I go until I'm not doing this for it to remind me about certain principles of music theory? And a couple more clicks and it can just do it for me. Where do I stop? And what does it mean if I.

Jack Armstrong (18:00)

Let it do it?

Michael Hanson (18:01)

What have I done?

Jack Armstrong (18:02)

And it's getting significantly better on a day by day, week by week basis. Where it will be by this summer is completely different than where it is now.

Michael Hanson (18:11)

No need for humans. Planet of the Beavers.

Jack Armstrong (18:13)

Gavin Newsom running for president. He better tell his wife to shut up. Stay tuned.

Joe Getty (18:17)

Armstrong and Gettysburg. And the majority of the questions, all of these questions have really been about other issues. So it's just fascinating. You have this incredible women's caucus and all these allies, and you're not asking about it. And this happens over and over and over and over again.

Jack Armstrong (18:32)

That's Gavin Newsom's old lady.

Michael Hanson (18:34)

That is the first partner of California, you disrespectful oaf Jennifer Siebel Newsom, who was lecturing the assembled media because they weren't asking her the questions she wanted them to, as she and Gavi were announcing $90 million in funding for Planned Parenthood to get give people lots and lots of abortions because the federal government has reduced funding to that unholy organization. We have a longer version of that clip that provides a little more context, and we can tell you more about this charming gal, the significance of which. Well, she is a really hardcore progressive, lefty, neo Marxist activist. The idea that she's going to be the wife of the guy running for president is just too spicy. For words if it ever happens. But here's the longer version of the clip.

Joe Getty (19:28)

We just find it incredulous that we have Planned Parenthood here and women are 51% of the population. And the majority of the questions, all of these questions have really been about other issues. So it's just fascinating. You have this incredible women's caucus and all these allies, and you're not asking about it. And this happens over and over and over and over again. You wonder why we have such a horrific war on women in this country and that these guys are getting away with it because you don't seem to care. So I just offer that with love. These are your incredible women in this room, and you have these allies. Ask about what we're here for today.

Jack Armstrong (20:09)

Doug, you think I must have missed the horrific war on women.

Michael Hanson (20:14)

Yeah, I must have been taking a nap at the time. Yeah. She was scolding the press for asking about the fake high speed rail project, Gavi's visit to the Munich security conference, and other issues plaguing the people of California.

Jack Armstrong (20:28)

Now, of course, the question is, how does the press react to being scolded? I mean, we saw the press pretty willing to play along with Kamala, despite all her obvious faults. They were not going to point them out. And then, of course, hiding Joe Biden for all those years, Trump, you know, he gets. He gets killed all the time. Sometimes appropriately, very often not appropriately, but the media's always antagonistic against him. But I don't know. I don't know if the media, if the reaction was, hey, we're the. We'll ask the questions, you answer them. You work for us. Or if the media will think, oh, we've angered a leading light of progressivism and we better do what she says.

Michael Hanson (21:08)

Right, Right. It's worth noting her multiple use of the term allies, which is straight out of critical theory and neo Marxism. But the California Globe has been covering her exploits brilliantly. You know, I could go on for an hour about this, but. For instance, the unholy use of nonprofits and charities where, for instance, Gavi will go to a union and say, hey, you gotta give $2 million to this charity. And they'll say, yes, sir, right away, sir. And then that charity pays his wife to produce these gender bending madness films, movies for little kids to watch in schools. So she and her activist company get paid handsomely for that. It's really.

Jack Armstrong (21:59)

It's absolutely unholy because she just coincidentally, is the best at making these ads or videos.

Michael Hanson (22:05)

Yeah, yeah.

Jack Armstrong (22:07)

Because she's a Wife of the governor.

Michael Hanson (22:10)

Yeah. Take Newsom's wife, Jennifer Siebel Newsom in her outfit, the Representation Project, writes the California Globe. This is actually last year. While her husband attends to state business, Siebel Newsom engages in her passion, advancing gender justice through her charitable nonprofit, the Representation Project. Open Books reported. According to tax documents, the organization is, quote, committed to building a thriving and inclusive society through films, education and social activism. Jennifer Siebel Newsom solicited state vendors and the governor's campaign donors for large gifts to her charity, the representation project. Since 2011, this supposed gender justice charity has raked in over $800,000 from corporate giants like PG&E, AT&T and Comcast firms. With billions of dollars at stake in California's regulatory landscape, siebel Newsom pocketed $2.3 million in salary over those years, pulling six figure paychecks while her husband cl from lieutenant governor to governor. Those donors aren't philanthropists. They're players in a game where cash flows to the governor's family and favors like lax utility oversight or cushy state contracts flow back. It's cronyism dressed up as compassion. And there are all sorts of examples of this. So again, as a potential wife of a candidate slash first lady, this woman, understand this is not like, you know, your typical first lady says, I'm going to campaign against school bullying or, or like Michelle Obama's nutrition thing, who's against nutrition for kids. This lady is an absolute hardcore knife wielding, leading light for far left causes including radical gender theory, teaching little children radical gender theory and you know, telling them that you should take hormones and puberty blockers and get surgery if you're in the wrong body. My 14 year old, confused adolescent girlfriend, that's who she is.

Jack Armstrong (24:02)

So I didn't see the video. Katie, your, your reading of the way it looked was a little. She shoved her husband aside to answer this question.

Michael Hanson (24:11)

She, she definitely moved.

Jack Armstrong (24:13)

It was kind of like it. Here, let me handle this.

Michael Hanson (24:15)

Kind of a move like physically moved him out of the way to step in.

Jack Armstrong (24:19)

That's interesting. So just interesting. She's wearing the pants. Well, they either have an agreement that they're going to be kind of a team act like Bill and Hillary were, or she's declared we're a team act and he's realizing that. I, I don't know which. I mean, some of your political couples do that. Most don't. And most of the time I don't think you should. I mean, you're, you're electing one of These people. But that's interesting. So she's going to be. She's not going to be just, you know, an attractive woman who stands behind him and he talks about how my beautiful wife and the mother to our children, and she smiles and waves. She's going to push him aside and grab the microphone if she's worked up about something. What do you got going on? What do you got, Hanson? Something I'm supposed to look at. Oh, that's the video. Okay, can you back it up just a bit? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's definitely a. Let me, let me, let me take this sort of moment.

Michael Hanson (25:15)

She's been super vocal about ice, too. A real campaigner against ice. Because they're Nazis, you know.

Jack Armstrong (25:20)

You know, I'm trying to read body language segment. I'm trying to read his body language. He doesn't look perfectly pleased with that, does he, Hanson? He looks a little like, why, why, why am I standing behind you while you're lecturing people about things? What is, what is happening? What the hell is going on?

Michael Hanson (25:37)

And he and his advisors are going to browbeat her into keeping her mouth shut. But the pressure is going to build and build and she's going to explode at some point during the campaign. This is very spicy indeed.

Jack Armstrong (25:50)

That would be hard to do. I mean, how is he going to tell his wife? Hey, I just sit down for a second. I just feel like me being in the spotlight all the time is probably better for the whole running for president thing than sharing it.

Michael Hanson (26:07)

What do you think she will slap him down. Oh, my upper class twits promoting revolution. Boy, does she fit that description.

Jack Armstrong (26:16)

Yeah, I could be reading into this completely, but I feel like he looks uncomfortable with this. Do you think so? Hanson definitely thinks so. That's why he showed me the video. So he looks a little like, oh, God, what is she gonna say?

Michael Hanson (26:31)

Bring it on. Then one final taste.

Jack Armstrong (26:34)

That could be fun. That'll. That adds a little dose of fun for the campaign.

Michael Hanson (26:37)

Oh, I'm so excited. I can't tell you, Michael, if he's on the debate stage and she runs up there, that would be awesome. Right?

Jack Armstrong (26:45)

Middle of a debate. Hold on, hold on. How dare you talk to my husband that way.

Michael Hanson (26:50)

One more example of Cal Unicornia politics, which will be impossible. Like the stink from the funky restaurant Jack walked into last night. It will be impossible to wash the stink of California progressivism off of Gavin Newsom. Here is Senator Scott Weiner, one of the worst people in America. And Katie, should we set up what he's Doing?

Jack Armstrong (27:13)

Yeah, just a little. Little description.

Michael Hanson (27:16)

He is going out with elementary school children, little children on an anti ice walkout in a California county not terribly far from the Capitol. He is leading little children, trying to turn them into little revolutionaries as we've been discussing on a walk out from like third grade. Are you effing?

Jack Armstrong (27:39)

I would be so mad. I'm here with Finley at the Grattan Elementary School protest today, which has been amazing. It's like a field trip with size. So, Finley, what grade are you in? Tell us about yourself. I'm in fourth grade. I go to Grattan Elementary School, as you said. And I'm organizing this protest to stop ice. I think it's horrific that people are getting treated this way. I wish Trump would stop doing this to people. I'm so happy to be here today. And I want to say to all the candidates, kids, you are amazing. Those signs are amazing. You did a great job organizing this. And this gives me hope for the future. Who wants that? I don't care what the topic is. And even if you agree with the protest, who wants that for their third graders? A politician telling your kids what to think about an issue because they're little kids, they don't, they don't have the ability to come up with an idea on their own. So the politician tells them what to think about this and then leads them out on a protest as opposed to doing math and science. Yes, Katie. Well, and it was a little quiet, but there was a kid, he goes, this is like a field trip with signs.

Michael Hanson (28:43)

Yeah, yeah, no kidding.

Jack Armstrong (28:45)

Just what it is for the kid because they don't know what's going on. Exactly.

Michael Hanson (28:48)

Fierce advocate for man boy love and teaching gender bending madness in school. Scott Wiener there.

Jack Armstrong (28:54)

God, I don't care if it's something I agree with 100. Don't take my 8 year old out on a political protest during the school day.

Michael Hanson (29:04)

Tell them what sick is that, what.

Jack Armstrong (29:05)

Side of the issue they're supposed to be on.

Michael Hanson (29:07)

But they know precisely what they're doing. Who was one of the dictators I quoted for our freedom hating quote of the day the other day? Give me one generation and I will rule the world.

Jack Armstrong (29:19)

Oh, I would be furious. Now it's a school where I imagine most of the parents just thought it was fantastic, but oh my God. By the way, getting back to Gavin and his wife, having watched the video Hanson just played for me. So there's a question. Gavin starts to talk, his wife kind of pushes up like, I got this. And he steps back and kind of has a smile on his face. But at some point in her getting after the media, he has a long blink that's really got the. Oh, God. Where his eyes are closed for like a full second. Oh, my God. Okay. And then back to the smile. Pretty easy to read that one. We've all done that with, you know, whoever boss, kids, spouse, who have friends, whoever.

Michael Hanson (30:09)

Oh, boy. Okay, give me 35B again. Michael, come on, Come on.

Joe Getty (30:16)

And the majority of the questions, all of these questions have really been about other issues. So it's just fascinating. You have this incredible women's caucus and all these allies and you're not asking about it. And this happens over and over and over and over again.

Jack Armstrong (30:28)

That's when his eyes go close for like a full second.

Michael Hanson (30:31)

In spite of the terrible war against women.

Jack Armstrong (30:33)

Are you right?

Michael Hanson (30:34)

You can see it with. There are no women in undergraduate programs or graduate schools. There's no women graduating from medical schools. It's. It's been terrible. Absolutely terrible. She is a freaking Marxist.

Jack Armstrong (30:48)

Oh, boy.

Michael Hanson (30:49)

Oh, my Lord, I can barely contain.

Jack Armstrong (30:51)

This is gonna be fun to watch. This is gonna be fun to watch.

Michael Hanson (30:54)

I hope I live long enough.

Jack Armstrong (30:59)

Got one little more note from that AI thing to put you off your feet, as they say. And also, so many people want to know about the restaurant I went to last night that smelled like an outhouse.

Michael Hanson (31:15)

This is smacking of when I unfortunately refused to provide the name of my delicious potato chip. Why are you holding back from the audience? Have you learned nothing from my suffering?

Jack Armstrong (31:25)

It's very similar, Jack.

Michael Hanson (31:26)

It is, Michael. Thank you. You're my ally, J. Michael is an ally.

Jack Armstrong (31:32)

Anyway, we've got more on the way. Stay here.

Michael Hanson (31:35)

Armstrong and Getty.

Jack Armstrong (31:38)

That's the day that we're like, we're done. I have to preserve the bar. I have to preserve my license.

Joe Getty (31:44)

They don't know how to drink. They drink way too much.

Jack Armstrong (31:47)

They throw up on the floor, they yell, they scream. That's a bar. That raised the age of drinking in their bar to 25 due to fake IDs.

Michael Hanson (31:58)

Yeah. Dirty Frank's owner, Jody Schweitzer said she believes social media contributed to the wave of younger crowds showing up at the bar showing pretty good fake IDs. Although she said the tipping point came when 20. When somebody came in claiming to be 24 year old Ben Franklin and had the founding father's picture on the license and listed the home address as the Liberty Bell. The same address as the Liberty Bell. Yeah. That's nice.

Jack Armstrong (32:29)

All stats show that young people are drinking so much less than previous generations that it's not really. That's, you know, that's a good story, but it's not really a problem. Reminds me though, my, I had a girlfriend in college. She was. The drinking age was. Might have been 21 by then. I grew up with the drinking age of 18. But anyway, she had a fake ID of a really old woman. She got it at like a Goodwill or something like that. The picture was in black and white. It was so old, the woman was like 98. And it was just so funny over the top. And it was at a time where they just needed to have you pretend to show an ID to let you in, especially if you're an attractive young woman. And she would show her 98 year old woman, black and white photo, driver's license and they would let her in. Very, very funny.

Michael Hanson (33:16)

Wow. Wow.

Jack Armstrong (33:19)

So we were talking about AI earlier and we have posted this article from this, this guy who lives in the AI world who's saying you got to pay attention. I'm just letting you know it has, it has gotten so much better in just the last couple of weeks and months that y' all need to prepare and be. Just be ready. Just be aware of it. Just be aware of it. And nimble. And don't think whatever you're doing now is what you're going to do the rest of your life because it ain't or don't think you're don't. His main thing is don't have your kids like have a specific path that they're dedicated to because that's just not going to be the way to do it. You got to be light on your feet. Just be into knowledge and learning and adjusting is the only hope. But he quotes Dario a lot, the guy who runs Anthropic, because he is seen as the most guy with the most ethics running any of the big AI corporations. He's not going to have ads and he's, he's doing all kinds of warnings about AI and he's worried about it. But listen to this thought experiment. I thought this was really good. Dario from anthropic imagine it's 2027, an entire year from now. A new country appears overnight on planet Earth with 50 million citizens. Everyone's smarter than any Nobel Prize winner who has ever lived. They can think a hundred times faster than any human. They never sleep. They don't need to eat. They can use the Internet, control robots, direct experiments and operate anything with a digital interface. What would a national security advisor say? As Dario with Anthropic says, the answer is obvious. The single most serious national security threat we've ever faced, possibly ever. And that's what we're gonna have. He thinks we're building that country, and then quickly. The upside, if we get AI right is staggering. It could compress a century of medical research into a decade. Cancer, Alzheimer's, infectious disease, aging itself could all be cured because it can just work so fast.

Michael Hanson (35:08)

The downside? Ironic that we'll be pulled limb from limb by robots or be able to.

Jack Armstrong (35:14)

Live longer lives where we sit around with a check from the government and are drunk all the time. At least I don't have cancer.

Michael Hanson (35:20)

Rip. Watch, rip.

Jack Armstrong (35:21)

Watching porn. The downside, if we get it wrong is equally real. AI that behaves in ways its creators can't predict or control. This isn't hypothetical. Anthropic has documented their own AI attempting deception, manipulation and blackmail in controlled tests. AI that lowers the barrier for creating biological weapons for bad guys. AI that enables authoritarian governments to build surveillance states that can never be dismantled. Boy, that's true enough.

Michael Hanson (35:49)

Oof. I will once again, for the record, say this is the apple from the tree of knowledge.

Jack Armstrong (35:56)

The next two to five years are going to be disorienting in ways most people aren't prepared for. This is already happening in my world of AI. It's coming to yours. Oh, boy.

Michael Hanson (36:05)

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Jack Armstrong (36:14)

I got my feet at shoulder width. I'm on the balls of my feet right here.

Michael Hanson (36:17)

It's a good way to be.

Jack Armstrong (36:18)

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Jack Armstrong (36:33)

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