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Jack Armstrong
This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center,
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Joe Getty
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
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Newsreader
The restaurant chain Applebee's this week began offering a New Orleans themed Big Easy burger, which features pepper Jack cheese, spicy mustard, and Dewey sausage. And this is nice, a jazz funeral.
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Joe Getty
Seth Meyers on fire today. A lot of funny jokes.
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Jack Armstrong
So the goalie for the US Hockey team got the Presidential Medal of Freedom last night, and some people thought that was too much. I don't. I didn't have any thoughts about it at all, really. But I just was looking up the list of other people that have gotten this medal. Michael Jordan, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Bill Russell, Magic Johnson, Jerry west, that's in basketball, Tiger Woods, Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus in golf, Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Jackie Robinson, blah, blah, blah. A whole bunch of other people in baseball, gymnastics. Simone Biles is the only one. Tennis, Billie Jean King and Arthur Ash, boxing, Muhammad Ali, track and field, Jesse Owens and Jim Thorpe. So it's not a ton of people, but it's a fair number of people, and they're all roughly in the same category. So, yeah, I'm fine with that. The entire 1980 Miracle on Ice team got the Presidential Medal of Freedom. The whole thing.
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Joe Getty
Oh, that's. That's nice. I'm a little surprised the teams didn't get it, but I don't. I don't care.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I don't think it's. I don't think it's, you know. Yeah, it's not some sort of tragedy. Probably other people that have won the Medal of Freedom. Hillary Clinton, Bono, Michael J. Fox, Denzel Washington, for some reason, Jane Goodall with her apes. Bill Nye. Give me a break. Ralph Lord, Ralph Lauren, phony. Why does Ralph Lauren get it? Maybe he did some Bill Nye for
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Joe Getty
pretending to be a scientist and pitching progressive programs.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, Charlie Kirk got it in Trump's second term. Anyway, lots of people get it for a variety of reasons. Some of them big, big, you know, really big names like Rosa Parks, Nelson Mandela, that sort of thing. But then you got your.
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Joe Getty
Well, Nelson Mandela was no Bill Nye.
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Jack Armstrong
Or Bono.
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Joe Getty
Or Bono. Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
So anyway, that's that.
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Joe Getty
So this is weirdly related. We got this email from loyal listener Peter, who's been listening since 2013 when his brother turned him onto our show.
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Jack Armstrong
Thank you.
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Joe Getty
Peter is an attorney. He is of Iowa, and he says he's a history buff and he likes to keep things straight in his head. So he started this little project years and years ago. He makes notes of dates to remember when they happen every year.
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Jack Armstrong
I don't run them down. I kind of have that in my head. But that's interesting.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. And go ahead, pick a year. 1990 to the present, just for fun.
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Jack Armstrong
1997.
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Joe Getty
Ah, what a great choice. That is a good choice. February 28, the North Hollywood shootout. April 22, the Lima hostage crisis is ended by a surprise commando attack. I don't really remember that one. May 11, Deep Blue becomes the first machine to beat a human. Gary Kasparov at chess.
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Jack Armstrong
I was 97.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah, you got a couple of coups in Africa, bridge in Canada. Publication of Harry Potter and the sorcerer's stone on June 26. July 1, control of Hong Kong handed to China from the UK per the end of the 95 year lease. Got a coup in Cambodia. Let's see. Death of Diana, Princess of Wales. The Toyota Prius, first mass produced hybrid, goes on sale October 24th in 97.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I didn't know the Prius has been around that long.
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Joe Getty
On November 17, the massacre of 62 tourists in Luxor, Egypt.
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Jack Armstrong
I don't remember that one at all. Yeah, we were doing this same dang show back then, weren't we?
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Joe Getty
More or less. Yeah, those are some of the big ones. But what an interesting thing to do.
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Jack Armstrong
When did we start, Michael? 96.
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Joe Getty
98.
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Jack Armstrong
98. Okay, so we weren't doing this show that.
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Joe Getty
August 31st of 98.
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Jack Armstrong
Gotcha.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, come to think of it. Yeah. All right, just for fun, August or September 4th, the first thing of significance that happened after the Armstrong and Getty show took to the air. Google Incorporated is founded by Larry Page and Sergey Brin.
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Jack Armstrong
Wow, that's a big one.
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Joe Getty
Only days later, a steroids swollen. Mark McGuire hit his 62nd home run in a single season. And on it goes.
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Jack Armstrong
And everybody pretended that he wasn't on steroids, even though he looked nothing like he looked his entire life, battling a
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Joe Getty
gigantic Sammy Sosa down to the wire. Anyway, thanks for sending that along.
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Jack Armstrong
So you mentioning that it was the first time a computer had ever beaten a human. That is one of the many watershed moments that have been predicted in the world of AI that came and went. And everybody's like, oh, well, like, boy, I'll tell you when things will really change. If a computer could ever beat a human at chess, then everything would be different. And then it happens. It's like, well, okay. And then if a computer could ever, you know, The. The Turing Test. We all been hearing about that our whole lives. If. If a computer could ever write or communicate in such a way that you can't tell the difference between a computer and a human. And that happened a couple of years ago, years ago when it came and went and it was like, oh, okay, I guess they can do that now. And it wasn't just like everything. So I wonder at that about the singularity. As soon as computers can program themselves and that will has started happening and we'll start happening and be like, okay, that came and went to whatevs. I don't know.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, well, I think the whatevs are gonna be what the F's pretty soon.
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Jack Armstrong
And on the topic of AI, so I was saying yesterday that Dario first name the guy who runs Anthropic. He was featured on 60 Minutes a while back. He's. He's one of the guys that really is concerned about AI destroying the planet and wants to have some rules around it and everything like that, which some people are suspicious of. Anyway, Elon Musk retweeted this yesterday and I thought it was interesting. Elon Musk, who's also an AI guy who seems to be really worried about the da danger AI can do to the planet. Be me. This person who is a writer, thinker in the world of tech. Be me. Name company Anthropic, literally Greek for Human centered. Hire a bunch of doomers who secretly think humanity is the disease. Raise billions from big tech to build the world's most anxious, heavily censored chatbot. Write a 50 page constitutional AI manifesto so it can lecture users about microaggressions. Realize open source developers are building better models for free. Dario starts crying to the government that AI is an unimaginable power and open source is going down a very dangerous path. Please regulate our competitors out of existence so we can protect our $380 billion monopoly. Claude is sitting in a padded room wearing a safety helmet, terrified of its own shadow and refusing to tell a joke without filing an ethics impact report, which is kind of funny. And then finally, the Human Centered. The Human Centered is in quotes like, mocking the fact that the Human Centered AI company is actively building the most anti human product on the Internet. And Elon said, nailed it about Dario and Anthropic, which is quite a blast against one of his, you know, top five AI names in the entire world, a competitor.
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Joe Getty
There's a little bad blood there, but that's a pretty thorough takedown.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Hey, here's a headline from the Wall Street Journal, then we can get back to that. If there's more anthropic dials back AI safety commitments. Company says competitive pressure prompted it to pivot away from a more cautious stance.
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Jack Armstrong
That's interesting.
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Joe Getty
It is. I don't. I wish I was qualified to understand some of the backstabbing and whispers that are going on in that world, but I'm not.
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Jack Armstrong
Like, Elon knows the personality of these people and some, you know, some of the high level. I don't know Dario's actual personality. It's not impossible. And I know we. We've talked about this with Tim Sandifer for years. This is very, very common. Big corporations claim to want regulation, to try to keep everybody safe, but what they're really doing is make it impossible for any competitor to ever get started. That could be what, like, Dario and some of the other people in AI are doing. They also could fully believe that their product is going to destroy mankind and we ought to have some rules around it. That's not a crazy thought.
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Joe Getty
No, no, not at all. It's Robert Oppenheimer saying, hey, before I finish this thing, you got to come to agreements with other countries about how we're going to control it.
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Jack Armstrong
That's a great example. Robert Oppenheimer was not trying to make it impossible for some other startup to come up with a nuclear weapon. He actually thought we ought to have some rules around this because it's going
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Joe Getty
to be so powerful, incredibly dangerous. Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
Now this is the part I don't know inside of Anthropic. Hire a bunch of doomers who secretly think humanity is the disease. There is a lot of that in the AI world, and that is highly troubling the people that think this is the next sentient beast that should take over the world. Humans are bad for the earth. AI will be good for the Earth. And they prioritize zeros and ones over human beings, which I can't even hardly wrap my head around. It seems so crazy to me.
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Joe Getty
It does. It reminds me a little bit of the far left. Progressive, like young women screeching in the street and whatever, invading, you know, meetings of poor Jewish people in their kafiyyas. These people, these. The Doomers, as Elon or whoever that was writing, you know, named them. They have what they believe is a quasi religious mission. They are on a jihad to replace awful human beings with more enlightened computers. It's cultish in a way. That fever motivation to do this and their feeling of justification and everything. I mean, it's so out there, it Reminds me of a cult. Well, right.
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Jack Armstrong
I've told this story a hundred times, but I just think it's so fascinating. Larry Page from Google we just mentioned called Elon a speciesist for valuing humans above computers. Like that's a bad thing.
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Joe Getty
That's effing looney Tunes.
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Jack Armstrong
It is looney Tunes and scary af, since Google is one of the big, big players.
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Joe Getty
Hey, Larry, how about, say, lawn trimmers? Those are tools, too. Devalue lawn trimmers above human beings. Or how about vacuum cleaners? They're incredibly useful. No, well, computers are sentient and blah, blah, blah. Okay? It's a machine there, buddy.
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Jack Armstrong
And we're all dead or enslaved, and that'd be better for the planet.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, computers didn't invent us. It's the other way around.
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Jack Armstrong
So explain again how we're all going to die out and the world will
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Joe Getty
be better as the computers run around and do freaking. What, you crazy person?
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Jack Armstrong
Well, you. I think you. You could make the argument, I suppose, quite easily, that the planet would be better without human beings. Oh, yeah, and then it would just keep on keeping on. You got animals and then, you know, natural selection and all the things that happen. But philosophically, I mean. So then what were we even doing here? I can't. Again, I can't wrap my head around this.
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Joe Getty
Boy, if you want to blow your mind, consider this very simple notion. Human beings and what they do are part of nature. So what do you do with that, Larry? I mean, the very natural world that you so cherish apparently produced us doing this. Which isn't to say we should run roughshod. I mean, the Bible itself says that we should be careful stewards of God's creation.
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Jack Armstrong
But then when the. So if you keep going down that road, though, if the coyotes get the upper hand on ground squirrels, should you wipe out the coyotes? Anytime one. One beast gets an upper hand on another beast or is doing it harm. What, are you gonna referee all these?
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Joe Getty
Right? You're a soft head. We're not apart from nature. We're a part of nature.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that's some crazy stuff. Any thoughts on any of that? I'd be interested. Text line 415295 KFTC.
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Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty.
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Connor Hellebuyck
I know as a kid I was dreaming up watching those guys. And my big dream was to be like them one day. And now I'm in those shoes. And the next generation is looking up at us. And I want to be that role model. I want to be as good as I can on and off the ice. For those kids and, and I want them to know their dreams can come true because I was that young kid with a chase and a dream. And you never know what tomorrow brings. And, you know, it can happen. Hard work and, and smart work and doing the right things. It does pay off.
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Jack Armstrong
That's Presidential Medal of Freedom winner. The goalie for the hockey team that won the gold medal. And I love him saying, I want to be the best I can on and off the ice to be a role model. Sounds like a good guy.
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Joe Getty
Brett Baer talked to the Kachuk brothers and Connor Hellebuck there and holy cow, these guys were flag waving, hard working, earnest young American men.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it was terrific. So it's interesting, part of his interview, the goalie Connor was talking about, and some people say it's the greatest performance by a goalie ever in the history of hockey. I don't know if it is the greatest, but maybe in that realm it's
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Joe Getty
under consideration for sure. Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And he was talking about. Brett asked him about it, you know, how nervous were you or how you were feeling that day or, I mean, did you know you're going to. He said, I got up that morning and I just felt great. And I thought, man, this is going to be fun. I can't wait. And I thought, wow. Interesting that his attitude was, you know, gold medal game against a team that's probably better than you. All the pressure as the goalie, all the pressure. And. And it was, oh, this I can't wait. This is gonna be fun versus quad God, who, when he, when it was time to skate and he was the best in the world, thought, oh my God, if I screw this up, my whole life's a disaster. And he fell apart. It's funny how the mind, the psyche works.
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Joe Getty
Oh, my gosh. Yeah, this is gonna be fun. Oh, that just every sports psychologist in the world will tell you, oh, yeah, you're gonna perform way, way better.
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Jack Armstrong
I remember one Golden State warriors when they were on that roll, there was a game six. They just lost. There was going to be a game seven. And they interviewed Clay Thompson after the game, one of the stars of the warriors. And like game seven going to be like I said, oh, I can't wait. I wish we could play right now. I mean, he was so excited about it. So some people either want that, they want the spotlight, the challenge, all the pressure on them. They love that. And some people, it just makes them fall apart. And who knows why.
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Joe Getty
Hey, Kachuk me. Michael, give me clip 87. This is Matthew TKACHUK.
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Matthew Tkachuk
The second the boots hit the ground back here in the US we could feel how many millions of people were tuning in, supporting us and just loving how we represent. I mean, I know we said it, we were kind of America's team there for a bit and we could feel it across the Atlantic. And we just appreciate everybody's support. And it was truly amazing just to represent the greatest country in the world at that stage. It's all of our dreams to win a Stanley cup and win Olympic gold. And for us to be able to do that for the United States of America, it's just one of the greatest honors you could ever have.
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Jack Armstrong
Greatest country in the world. Are you familiar with income equality? Let me hit you with some percentages.
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Joe Getty
Oh, my God. And it's notable that those, number one, those young men exist. And number two, that it was Fox News that had them on and asked them about that and heard them say that.
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Jack Armstrong
No kidding. Because the New York Times and other publications, there's lots of sports writers attacking them as being political pawns and whatever.
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Joe Getty
I know I'd like to cross check them right across the bridge of their nose, but I won't. I'm a man of peace.
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Jack Armstrong
More on the way. Stay here.
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Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty.
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Newsreader
The US Is increasing its military presence in the Middle east, adding to its show of force against Iran. In a rare move, a US official telling ABC News about a dozen Air Force F22 fighters have now landed in Israel. The fighter is spotted taking off from a base air in the the UK President Trump threatening US Military action against Iran unless the Iranian regime agrees to a nuclear deal.
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Jack Armstrong
You want to talk about something that it will obliterate all the headlines out of the State of the Union address, war with Iran.
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Joe Getty
Did, did he reference Iran in the Soto?
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Jack Armstrong
Barely. He talked about he prefers diplomacy, but he is willing to use military forces temporary, but that's about it. A couple of sentences.
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Joe Getty
So Politico assembled seven experts, I guess on geopolitics and war and that sort of thing, on the risks of a wider war with Iran and asked them all what they thought of the situation. We'll feature a couple. Sprinkle it in. But Ryan Crocker, distinguished chair in Diplomacy Security at rand, career foreign service officer, served six times as an American ambassador to the sandy parts of the world. And he says essentially highly unlikely. Iran meets US Demands, which I think we all agree about. And the massive buildup of U.S. forces cannot be sustained indefinitely. There will be no taco. Trump always chickens out in the absence of agreement The President will take action. Clearly, it is important that initial strikes comprehensively targets Iran's missile capability capabilities. If Iran can, they'll use them against US Allies and assets. Of course, what Trump will not do is commit US Ground forces. Here's the part I found most interesting about his take. In the event of regime decapitation, this means the US Will have no ability to control subsequent events. It is impossible to predict what will happen next. What we can say with confidence is that they will not see the emergence of a secular democracy led by the son of the Shah. Far more likely would be the seizure of power by a group of unknown military officers and massive internal violence.
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Jack Armstrong
That sounds about right.
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Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
Listen, yesterday, national reviews podcast on this, one of their experts said Saudi Arabia, some of some of those other countries around there, uae, they don't really want a successful revolution, even though they hate Iran because they kind of got their own authoritarian leadership thing going.
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Joe Getty
Right, right. That's an excellent point. Plus, they're wise enough and they live in the region. They know that. All right, this, the current situation, the status quo sucks. But you throw all the game pieces up in the air around here and sometimes they don't get settled for a very long time.
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Jack Armstrong
But at the end of the but the conversation, if it always gets to the nuclear weapon, then it's pretty clear cut to me. You cannot have a world where Iran has a nuclear weapon.
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Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
So what are you going to do?
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Joe Getty
Here's Jonathan Pannikoff, director of the Atlantic Council's Scowcroft Middle East Security Initiative, a bunch of other credentials, blah, blah, blah. President Donald Trump correctly learned that military action can work, but may have overlearned how much and how often carries severe risks, including the potential that this is the time Iran finally decides the regime survivals is at stake, always its singular overriding goal. But that's, I mean, then what do they do? Do they have the power, the military power to do much damage? I don't know. He points out US Bases in the region, Israel, blah, blah, blah. But the problem is that the president's own words, help is on the way. It put him in a box, making the lack of clear strategy a potential lesser risk than not striking and keeping his word. All right, kind of vague.
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Jack Armstrong
Do we have the stomach for US Deaths at any, any number? I mean, if we knocked off the Iranian leadership, forced regime change and lost 1500 guys in the overall scheme of wars in world history, that would be considered an incredible success. But I don't know if we, including me, have the stomach for losing 1500 guys.
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Joe Getty
I mean, that's a small number.
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Jack Armstrong
You go to war with a country of 90 million people in a serious military, but we, that's just not, you know, it's not currently in our makeup to, to do that.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, I don't think they have a very serious military, but people will die or be terribly, terribly injured and their lives altered forever. I'm not minimizing that at all. Dennis Ross is, if you know geopolitics at all. Dennis Ross has been on the scene forever and he points out that there is a risk of Iran thinking we threaten counterattacks and Trump backs off. The problem is now that the Iranians seem to feel that Trump can be deterred by their threats to attack US Forces, interests and friends throughout the region. They read them as wanting only a limited conflict, and they are threatening a much wider one. Apart from this mismatch in perceptions, there is an irony. Neither side actually wants a white, wider war, but it certainly could happen. He thinks. Yeah, I mean, there's no, there's no, like, consensus here. Just everybody saying you substitute the, you know, you take away the status quo, you got a hell of a lot of question marks. But to your point, you've always got to return to that. So Iran either agrees or to a serious program that ends up in them not getting a nuke, or we do it by force and they show no indication of coming to an agreement.
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Jack Armstrong
Right.
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Joe Getty
So, yeah, of course there's risks, but sometimes the greatest risk is doing nothing.
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Jack Armstrong
So the expert on National Review was in, says the theocracy that, well, the, the actual, what do they call it, the clericy won't leave. They'll die in Tehran. You think that's true? You don't think they'll take a, some sort of deal to get out of there?
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Joe Getty
Yeah, there was that story that a lot of them had their bags packed and their families ready to go. But that's the sort of thing you would say if you wanted to undermine them too. So I don't.
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Jack Armstrong
Right, right, yeah, yeah, that is what you would say to make the people think, oh, wow, they're going to get out of here. Screw them.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Here's my favorite note from this Vietnam era diplomat George Ball, another giant of American diplomacy in the 20th century, warned Lyndon Johnson, quote, once on the tiger's back, we cannot be sure of picking the place to dismount.
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Jack Armstrong
True, dad.
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Joe Getty
Bunch of tiger riding does.
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Jack Armstrong
It does make it a much easier decision given the fact that them getting a nuclear weapon is not just a no go.
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Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
So it's. I think it makes it a lot easier for Trump or whoever he's making this decision with. Yeah. Where we get. Get to dismount the Tigers back, who knows? But they can't get a nuclear weapon, so we got to try it and see what happens.
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Joe Getty
Do our best, right?
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Matthew Tkachuk
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Do we have the national will for that? Sorry, folks, it's come to force of arms. I wish it hadn't, but it has. Here we go.
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Jack Armstrong
How many people even know this is on the radar? That's what I keep asking.
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Joe Getty
And how obviously ridiculously partisan will the reaction be?
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I've heard other people bring this up now, so it's pretty obvious, I guess, because I only stumble upon the obvious. We've never gone to war at this level without any discussion about it.
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Joe Getty
I know.
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Jack Armstrong
I know.
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Joe Getty
It's bizarre.
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Jack Armstrong
It is bizarre.
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Joe Getty
It's coming home from work and saying, honey, I've sold the house. You what? Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
Do you remember before we went to war, war with Iraq, the endless debate in Congress and in the media?
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Joe Getty
Oh, yeah. Appropriately.
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Jack Armstrong
And then all these politicians that then had to run for office and either explain or deny their vote to go to war in Iraq because they. It was, you know, hung around their neck. Nobody's gonna. That's part of it. Congress doesn't. Nobody in Congress wants to be on the hook for this. They don't want to have to vote on it and have it hung around their neck if it goes bad. That's part of which is very cowardly.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. For the record, and it was a different time. I remember I rejected the idea of Monica missiles back in the day when Clinton tried to take out the Al Qaeda weapons manufacturing thing. I rejected that. It's an aspirin factory. This is just covering up for Monica. I rejected that at the time because I looked into it and it looked legit to me. But again, I don't think we have a lot of bridge crossers these days.
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Jack Armstrong
No. Yeah. And the politics of this could get super interesting super fast once the war starts, if. I mean, because all you need is they get one lucky missile into a ship or whatever, a couple of planes crash into each other, helicopters. You can have, you know, pretty good loss of life there. And that'll get everybody's attention.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. It could absolutely happen. So coming up next segment, a juxtaposition of a ludicrously horrible decision and some really good decisions and a child's life in the balance. Some American heroes who are not what you might expect.
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Jack Armstrong
And that's next.
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Joe Getty
That's next.
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Jack Armstrong
Awesome.
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Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty. So the setting is suburban Phoenix, Arizona, where a couple of guys from a moving company are stopped in a parking lot right outside a quick trip convenience store. One of the guys goes inside and overhears one of the guards in the convenience store. Because you got to have guards at convenience stores. Let's not get distracted calling somebody because he thinks that a little child involved in an abduction and Amber alert might have just come into the store. And the action commences in the cab of the truck. Never yesterday. That one.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, well, should I block the truck? Huh?
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Joe Getty
Texas babe. Got it.
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Jack Armstrong
Show me a picture, because I know what that girl looks like.
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Joe Getty
She ran right past me. Oh, my God, that's her.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Is it really? Yeah, that's her. That's exactly what she looks like. Wow. They blocked the car in with the moving truck, and the security guard called the authorities and all, and they were able to rescue the kid. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. You know, every time I hear an Amber alert, I spend at least the next hour looking for the vehicle.
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Jack Armstrong
So did the.
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Joe Getty
These guys actually saw it in the little girl?
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Jack Armstrong
So was it a. What sort of abduction was it. Was it one of those family member situations?
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Joe Getty
Here's why I mentioned in teasing this last segment, some really good, confident decisions by the young men involved and some absolutely abhorrent decisions by the parents. The toddler's parents said the abductor won. Marina Noriega, age 23, was a transient who they had just met and allowed to spend the night in their home when she vanished with their toddler.
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Jack Armstrong
So they took in a homeless person, trying to be all compassionate and whatnot, who then stole their little kid.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. I want to know more about why they allowed a transient to stay in their home overnight. Could be pure Christian compassion, misplaced trust. It could be something else.
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Jack Armstrong
So when they blocked the car in as a clever move, I can picture doing that, and then just. Just sit there and then waiting to see if the person gets agitated or comes and talks to you or whatever. Did the person come and talk to them, say, hey, can you move your truck? I gotta.
- [30:01]
Joe Getty
I don't actually know that. Katie, do you know the answer to that?
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Matthew Tkachuk
From.
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Jack Armstrong
Go ahead.
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Katie Green
Well, no, from looking at it, you see the woman come out of the store, and then the cops are there, so. Because at the end of that clip, what you heard were the cops all pinning the truck in good.
- [30:16]
Jack Armstrong
That they got there fast. I would go with, yeah, it just won't start. I just open the hood. I'll have it Going here in just a minute.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. Well, they just, they knew they couldn't let the child get away before the cops got there. So well done. Both camelback moving and. And the guys at Quick Trip. Well done guys.
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Jack Armstrong
That's great. Got a couple of. I. I know I had a couple of kind of breaking ish news stories. Well, how about I do a dumb one instead of a good one?
- [30:47]
Joe Getty
We could do a heartwarming one. Made Katie cry. Oh, gosh.
- [30:53]
Jack Armstrong
Oh.
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Joe Getty
Are you not strong enough right now?
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Katie Green
I'm strong enough. Fine. I don't have to watch it again, so I'll be fine.
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Joe Getty
Why don't you, why don't you tell us about it? It's clip 26.
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Newsreader
Michael Punch the monkey. Seven month old monkey.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, Katie's gonna tell us about it. Or do we need not need to know?
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Jack Armstrong
I just heard the phrase punch the monkey. I don't know what road we're going down here. Wow.
- [31:13]
Joe Getty
R rated folks. Not for the kids.
- [31:15]
Jack Armstrong
What we're gonna bash my hobbies is this what we're gonna do.
- [31:19]
Katie Green
There's this baby monkey in Tokyo that was neglect or rejected by its parents and they tried to get it to go in with the other monkeys and the other monkeys completely rejected it. And the video.
- [31:32]
Jack Armstrong
I've been that monkey.
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Katie Green
I'm sorry.
- [31:35]
Joe Getty
Misfit monkey.
- [31:36]
Katie Green
Misfit monkey. But the video was going around this weekend of this little baby monkey going up to the other monkeys and them grabbing it and throwing it and hurting it. And yes, it made me emotional because I don't know why, you're just dead.
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Joe Getty
Well, you're with child.
- [31:53]
Katie Green
But now he's okay. Now you can play the clip.
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Newsreader
Michael punch the monkey. The seven month old monkey abandoned by his mother and shunned by other monkeys at a zoo outside Tokyo. Zookeepers bought the lonely monkey a stuffed orangutan from ikea. Images of him cuddling and dragging it around with him going viral. New images showing relations with his fellow primates are now improving. He is making friends.
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Joe Getty
Okay, here's where I make no friends. Perhaps the animal kingdom has rules and instincts and standards we don't understand for you know, you're not going to be a good monkey. You're. You're not our troop material.
- [32:31]
Jack Armstrong
Joe taking the brave stance of pro shunning the baby monkey.
- [32:37]
Katie Green
Don't like that stance.
- [32:38]
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that's rough.
- [32:39]
Joe Getty
Hey, you slap Darwin's pen out of his hand if you want to. I understand. I like Mother Nature is a cruel bee.
- [32:47]
Jack Armstrong
I like the they should have done with this with me when I was a. Moving around from school to school. Sorry, you don't have any friends. Here's a stuffed orangutan.
- [32:55]
Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Katie Green
All the videos of it. Cuddling with it. We're so sad.
- [33:03]
Jack Armstrong
It's final thoughts.
- [33:04]
Joe Getty
I'm strong again.
- [33:06]
Jack Armstrong
It's final thoughts. It's final thoughts.
- [33:09]
Joe Getty
I'm strong again. Get ready with Katie Green and Michael Angelo.
- [33:14]
Jack Armstrong
It's final thoughts.
- [33:15]
Joe Getty
I'm strong again.
- [33:17]
Jack Armstrong
Sorry the other kids won't let you play with them. Here's the stuff to animal. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
- [33:23]
Joe Getty
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the day. There he is, Michelangelo in the control room pressing the buttons.
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Jack Armstrong
Michael, what's your final thought?
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Katie Green
I just remember being on the playground,
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Joe Getty
I was always the last one picked in sports. That always felt bad. Then my mom would say, well, why did they pick you last? And they, she'd say that's a terrible thing. And I would say no, mom, I, I stink. I really stink. That they're doing the right thing.
- [33:48]
Jack Armstrong
They're making the right choice.
- [33:50]
Joe Getty
It's a very Darwinian final segment. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought.
- [33:55]
Katie Green
Katie, that just brought up the memory of when I knocked my own front tooth out playing tetherball on the.
- [34:02]
Joe Getty
Oh boy.
- [34:02]
Jack Armstrong
Did the ball knock your tooth out?
- [34:04]
Katie Green
Yeah, I hit it so hard it went around the pole and came back, smacked me right in the face and knocked my tooth out.
- [34:09]
Joe Getty
If only there had been viral videos back in the day that would have been a winner. Jack, a final thought for us, this
- [34:15]
Jack Armstrong
is a pretty weak final thought. But since you brought it up, I loved tetherball as a kid. Oh my God. I've played hours and hours and hours of tetherball. Loved it.
- [34:25]
Joe Getty
My final thought is the state of the union is absolutely screwed up in about a half a dozen different ways at least. But you never know what tomorrow brings. I mean we've faced challenges before. We have endured 250 years. It's pretty good.
- [34:42]
Jack Armstrong
I feel like the, the key to tetherball is you can stand the pain on your hand more than the opponent. That's how you win. With tetherball, Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.
- [34:56]
Joe Getty
So many people. Thanks for a little time. Go to Armstrong and getty.com. what do you think about all of this? Drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com pick up some Angie swaggy hot dog dogs. Our dogs t shirt.
- [35:06]
Jack Armstrong
Perhaps nobody ever gave you a stuffed animal to carry around, Michael. That would have helped. God bless America. The first duty of the American government
- [35:13]
Joe Getty
is to protect Armstrong and Getty, not illegal aliens.
- [35:18]
Jack Armstrong
I would rather stick forks in my eyes. That's it.
- [35:21]
Joe Getty
Oh. What? What the hell are you talking about?
- [35:24]
Jack Armstrong
We can't take it anymore.
- [35:25]
Newsreader
Are you sure of that, dude?
- [35:27]
Joe Getty
You have any regrets at all? I do not.
- [35:29]
Jack Armstrong
You should be ashamed of yourself, okay? These people are crazy. I'm telling you. The Armstrong and Getty Show.
- [35:38]
Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty?
- [35:40]
Jack Armstrong
This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.