My Lawn Is Racist

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: My Lawn Is Racist
Date: April 9, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Producer/News: Katie Green
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview

In this episode, Armstrong and Getty navigate a whirlwind of current events, political analysis, and cultural commentary with their trademark conversational, satirical style. The episode covers escalating geopolitical tensions involving Iran, the U.S., and Israel; a viral rant about racist lawns and white supremacy; the declining U.S. birth rate; generational anxiety; and the ever-expanding LGBTQ acronym. Listeners are treated to punchy, unsparing analysis, playful banter, and both earnest and absurd cultural observations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Escalating Crisis: Iran, the Strait of Hormuz, and U.S. Policy

• The hosts dissect the confusion and conflicting reports about the status of the Strait of Hormuz, where Iran has limited commercial traffic and demanded cryptocurrency tolls.

  • Quote (Jack, 04:44):
    “Iran is demanding that oil tankers passing through the strait make toll payments in the form of cryptocurrency. … Vessels have been told to email Iranian authorities prior to passage with details regarding their cargo, then they respond with a quote.”

• They muse on the international implications, such as the possibility of Iran financing its military and nuclear programs through these tolls.

  • Quote (Joe, 08:34):
    “It was quite interesting—he wrote up Iran’s new plan as an IPO … billions and billions of dollars a year, finance their military and nuclear programs.”

• There’s discussion about Trump’s shifting positions—initial bluster and threats, followed by ambiguous retreat.

  • Quote (Joe, 05:07):
    "It’s who has gained advantages and who has lost advantages, who's gotten stronger or weaker and in what ways … there seems to be a fairly confident assumption that Trump’s done with the heavy stuff."

  • Quote (Jack, 11:24):
    "He said early in the day on ABC News ... he backed off it later. I don't know if somebody got in his ear and said that doesn't look good."

• Both hosts openly admit their confusion and skepticism about official narratives.

  • Quote (Jack, 04:33):
    "I have no idea what's going on. I don't think anybody else does either."

  • Quote (Joe, 09:37):
    "Maybe that's the way it kind of smells from here. But who knows? By noon today, certainly next week, it could look completely different. So many question marks."

2. U.S., Israel, and the Ceasefire Fog

• Questions emerge over the reality versus rhetoric about the ceasefire in the region. Jack points out the disconnect between political statements and on-the-ground facts.

  • Quote (Jack, 09:54):
    "Trump and JD are saying, now the strait is open, Iran has agreed to it, while the facts on the ground are the fewest ships went through ... It's not only not open, it's more closed than it's been at any point."

• There’s discussion about a book excerpt alleging Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu pressured Trump to escalate against Iran, which reportedly angered Trump.

  • Quote (Jack, 11:53):
    "Bibi Netanyahu coming to the White House and giving a big PowerPoint on what we should do to take down Iran … Trump is not digging that … pretty angry at whoever leaked that."

3. The Viral “Racist Lawns” Rant and Culture Wars

• The show’s title references a viral social media clip where a young woman claims lawns are “racist” and represent “white supremacy.”

  • Quote (Viral Clip, 26:44):
    "I can't stop thinking about how grass lawns are racist and, like, based in white supremacy … bring back weeds … can’t anything just be okay in its natural state?"

  • Hosts, reacting (Jack, 27:17):
    “Much better that you delayed having kids until your 30s so you can worry about lawns being racist. That had to be rage bait, right?”

  • (Joe, 27:33):
    “White supremacist lawns … My lawn is racist, but, you know, each their own.”

  • Both question whether the video is satire or sincere (“I think that was 100% sincere, judging by other things I’ve seen.”).

4. The Ever-Growing LGBTQIA+ Acronym

• A Canadian Member of Parliament’s speech about budget cuts for indigenous and LGBTQ groups is played. The hosts marvel at the bewildering string of letters: "MMIWG2SLGBTQIA+"

  • Quote (MP Clip, 28:47):
    "…provided $0 to deal with the ongoing genocide of MMIWG2SLGBTQIA+."

  • Quote (Joe, 30:11):
    "That was a whole bunch of new letters I’d never heard before!"

  • Jack tasks Katie Green to decode what all the letters mean:
    (Joe, 39:55): "Hey, Katie, we got a homework assignment for you. Can you write down all those letters from that woman and then try to look up what they all represent because I would like to know that..."
    (Katie, 40:00): "Not a problem, Jack."

5. Falling U.S. Birth Rate & Birth Trends

• The U.S. fertility rate has hit another record low. More women give birth in their 30s than their 20s, marking a demographic shift.

  • Quote (Katie, 19:35):
    "US Fertility rate drops to another record low … more women gave birth in their 30s than their 20s.”

  • Quote (Joe, 20:14):
    “For the first time ever, more women gave birth in their 30s than their 20s.”

• Jack and Joe reflect on sociological and biological explanations, pondering why the "biological imperative" to have kids seems diminished—even amid historic prosperity.

  • Quote (Jack, 32:35):
    "[O]ur parents had kids, you know, living in an apartment with one car because the desire was so strong. The desire has gone away to have kids. That’s the story. Why?"

  • Quote (Joe, 35:40):
    "Nothing I've ever done in my life even comes close … for giving you a sense of purpose as having kids. It's like being a different human being."

  • Quote (Joe, 34:05):
    "I'm leaning toward that explanation. ... We're like a deer population that senses that it's overcrowded, there's no food, and so we stop reproducing..."

6. Anxiety Bags and Gen Z Malaise

• News headlines mention Gen Z’s “anxiety bags” and declining excitement about AI technology.

  • Quote (Katie, 21:05):
    "New York Post: Stressed Gen Z is carrying around anxiety bags."

  • The hosts humorously connect generational anxiety with birthrate decline.

    • (Jack, 21:24):
      "How can everybody in their 20s be so anxious, stressed, yet deciding that having kids would be a bad idea? The sense of purpose would take care of all that stress and anxiety, I think."

  • (Joe, 21:28):
    "Oh, yeah, there's nothing like being busy to diminish stress and depression."

7. Humorous Interludes & “Babylon Bee” Headlines

• Katie shares two satirical headlines for comic relief:
  • (20:50):
    “Nike releases new Tiger Woods ad campaign: Just use your billion dollars to hire a full-time driver.”
  • “As astronauts reach the farthest any human has been from Earth, mission specialist is pretty sure he left the oven on.”

8. Other News Items & Wry Reactions

• Automatic Military Registration:
  "I guess automatic registration." (Katie, 19:08)
• Homeless Encampment/Evictions: Discussed with bemusement and outrage.
• Michael J. Fox Death Hoax:
  “Did CNN tell the world Michael J. Fox was dead?” (Jack, 20:44), “I feel pretty alive.” (Joe, 21:02)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Strait of Hormuz & Iran’s “IPO” Plan – [04:01–09:05]
• Trump’s Posture & Ceasefire Optics – [05:31–12:45]
• Viral “Racist Lawn” Clip & Reaction – [26:44–28:19]
• LGBTQIA+ Acronym Expansion (Canadian MP) – [28:47–30:37]
• U.S. Birth Rate Analysis – [31:26–38:05]
• Gen Z Anxiety & Satirical Headlines – [21:05–21:59]
• Mailbag & Listener Observations – [45:10–48:28]

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Style, Tone, and Commentary

Armstrong and Getty’s style is direct, skeptical, irreverent, and laced with humor. The conversation takes frequent detours into playful banter (“I count them [sperm] … lost my place … stop moving!”), cultural gripes, and topical anecdotes. They repeatedly reference their confusion and distrust of media narratives, and throw in comedic jabs about everything from White House leakers to lawn care and the ever-mutating state of woke acronyms.

They stress that their critiques on culture and demographics aren’t judgments of listeners’ personal choices:

• (Joe, 36:34):
  "Don’t take any of this as a judgment of you as an individual. ... Live your life however you see fit. We’re dedicated small-l libertarians."

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Segment Structure

• [03:00–12:45]: International news, Trump, Iran, and U.S. policy discussion
• [12:45–22:25]: Headlines and media critique with Katie Green
• [26:44–28:19]: “Racist lawns” viral video breakdown and satirical reaction
• [28:47–30:37]: LGBTQ acronym expansion, Canadian Parliament audio
• [31:26–38:05]: U.S. fertility crisis and sociological reflection
• [45:04–46:10]: Freedom-loving quote, mailbag and listener engagement

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Conclusion

“My Lawn Is Racist” showcases Armstrong and Getty’s unique blend of political skepticism, sociocultural observation, and comedic commentary. The episode’s wide-ranging discussion—from Middle Eastern geopolitics and birth rates to social media absurdities—offers both satirical entertainment and food for thought about where culture and politics are headed.

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For full context or direct quotes, reference segment timestamps above.

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[Joe Getty]

So far nobody's wanted to. We're ready.

[Jack Armstrong]

Today we are toiling under the title of the show.

[Joe Getty]

And the winner is or a tradition unlike any other. The Masters.

[Jack Armstrong]

The golf tournament starts.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, the Masters starts today. It's my Super Bowl. It's a four day Super Bowl.

[Katie Green]

Woohoo.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is Tiger playing?

[Joe Getty]

He might be playing on the prison softball team.

[Jack Armstrong]

So at least as of a couple of hours ago, not a single the straight is open. According to Donald Trump, the straight of Hormuz is open. Not a single oil tanker has gone through in the last 24 hours and only four boats total bulk cargo vessels. Fewest number of boats going through the strait since this whole thing started happened the day it was declared open.

[Joe Getty]

It's open. Ish. What's that even mean?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. I have no idea what's going on. I don't think anybody else does either.

[Joe Getty]

I have actually occupied myself this marne by reading several different analyses of who won, who lost, where everything stands and they contrast with each other fairly significantly. And none are either like super Trumpy or Trump deranged. They're all pretty good solid analysts. It's tough to know how can you

[Jack Armstrong]

have a who won or who lost. At this point it seems like we're in the middle of it or in the beginning of it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's that verbiage is bad. It's who has gained advantages and who has lost advantages, who's gotten stronger or weaker and in what ways. That's more what they're asking how long seems to be. And this. I have a feeling you're heading toward this, but there seems to Be a fairly confident assumption that Trump's done with the heavy stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh really?

[Joe Getty]

He's kind of decided the costs are too high.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, he said he truthed out late last night that all US ships, aircraft, military personnel, ammunition, weaponry, anything else that's appropriate, necessary for the prosecution and destruction, our enemy will remain in place. How long can you keep the gun cocked? I know, I know. You can't do it permanently. Obviously not permanently, but long term, it's

[Joe Getty]

pretty hard to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, if he was going to follow through on his threat of whatever he meant he wasn't going to destroy the civilization, but whatever he was going to do, is that still on the table? That was the only point of leverage we had. Or he felt like he had Monday morning.

[Joe Getty]

Right? That's the question. And I have a feeling he's going to have the Gulf States in his ear and, well, really all sorts of countries in his ear trying to push him one way or another.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was just reading my morning newsletter that I like complaining that. So why is Islamadad Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan? Yes, the. How did they end up being the negotiators? They're the country that hid bin Laden.

[Joe Getty]

How are they? Our fare broker, India is asking the same thing. I don't know, it seems bizarre to me. Maybe because they know all the actors and can get them in a room. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't even know what to say about this. At this point I'm pretty concerned that what's going to end up happening is that Iran is going to actually get to continue their nuclear program. The regime is going to stay in place and they're going to continue their nuclear program.

[Joe Getty]

I think that's probably the most likely outcome. Everything they do has been set back by months, years, decade. But they've, they've decided, hey, controlling shipping totally works, man. We can get anybody to do anything. This is our new gig.

[Jack Armstrong]

Will they ever let the straight open back up again?

[Joe Getty]

Great question. And what will the world do about it if they don't? Will Europe ever find its abundance bollocks, as they might say in Great Britain, and, and assert itself in any meaningful way?

[Jack Armstrong]

Can they? So in case you don't know, currently Iran is demanding that oil tankers passing through the state make toll payments in the form of cryptocurrency. You can use bitcoin or you can use Trump family USD 1 if you want to to to pay, which would help the Trump family make money. Iran actually stated you can pay in Trump crypto if you want. Vessels have been told to email Iranian authorities prior to passage through the area with details regarding their cargo, which authorities will then respond with a quote, for how much we're charging you reportedly set at a dollar per barrel of oil. And these ships are absolutely enormous. And that's where you came up with the number you were hearing all day Yesterday, somewhere around $2 million a boat to get through.

[Joe Getty]

Wall Street Journal writer I can't remember who had an amusing and revealing and somewhat disturbing article today. He wrote up Iran's new plan as an ipo, as an initial public offering of a company to buy stock in their revenue projections, their business model, the risks that they face and that sort of thing, to run this as a brand new business that would clear billions and billions of dollars a year and finance their military and their nuclear programs. It was quite interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was reading some thinker on the right. It might even have been Newt Gingrich. Might have been. Anyway, it was somebody making the argument that Iran is just doing what they always do. They're just dragging this out. And then we either get tired or the election gets close enough or the public polling turns bad enough or whatever that we just kind of give up. And then they continue on their merry way to trying to get a weapon and rule in that country with an iron fist and probably hanging even more.

[Joe Getty]

College students and the utterly brutal transactional leaders of Iran have found levers that work with Trump. Maybe, maybe that's the way it kind of smells from here. But who knows? By noon today, certainly next week, it could look completely different. So many question marks.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't understand how those, how the white. And we'll play some of these clips later, how Trump and J.D. vance can go out saying, look, it's a, it's been a bumpy start to the ceasefire. They're talking about the rockets going back and forth. Yeah, I get that. I'm enough of a student of the end of wars to know that that happens. But usually the two sides are talking out loud with things they agree on while the sloppy ceasefire begins and then starts to hold. That's not what's going on here. Each side is saying, you know, this is a cat, this is a dog, the different sides. And there's no indication that anybody's budging at all. And so Trump and JD Are saying, now the strait is open, Iran has agreed to it, while the facts on the ground are the fewest ships went through the strait of any day since the war started. It's not only not open, it's more closed than it's been at any point. Boy.

[Joe Getty]

And that, that Trump crypto thing disturbed me.

[Jack Armstrong]

How about that?

[Joe Getty]

That's combined Trump hinting the other day that, hey, and you know they're going to charge a Tolan, we'll get a cut of the revenue. Because Trump is big on getting a cut of the revenue, whether it's in video or, you know, some other tech ventures or what have you combined with. Oh, it'll totally pump up the Trump cryptocurrency. I just, I pray that's not true. I pray that's not what's happening here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's what he said early in the day on ABC News. He backed off it later in the day. I don't know if somebody got in his ear and said that. That doesn't look good.

[Joe Getty]

That whole.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, Michael, if you're a shipper and

[Joe Getty]

you write a check, they got to hold it for 48 hours and make sure it clears.

[Jack Armstrong]

Apparently the Iranians.

[Joe Getty]

Oh man, that's inconvenient in the modern day.

[Jack Armstrong]

Will you take a two party out of state check? No. About a coupon. You take coupons? Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know. I have no idea where this is going.

[Joe Getty]

While the mullah's holding a spring sale, 30% off shipping this month only come through the Straits of Hormuz, the nicest straits on Earth.

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So.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then just briefly, we'll talk more about this later. There's, there's a book coming out soon, one of those insider books with lots of leaks coming out of the White House that the New York Times has started putting out excerpts of. And the excerpt that came out in the last 24 hours was all about Bibi Netanyahu coming to the White House and giving a big PowerPoint presentation on what we should do to take down Iran. And it looking like we took his advice. And Trump is not digging that and pretty angry at whoever leaked that or whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that might explain is like really strong statements about Israel. Oh, it's absolutely. In the last couple of days, Israel's

[Jack Armstrong]

continuing to fire on Hezbollah and saying that's not part of the ceasefire. And Trump, J.D. vance and Trump yesterday said it's not part of the ceasefire, but then they acted really angry about it later in the day. So I don't know. Again, I don't know what's going on.

[Joe Getty]

Oh boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Facts on the ground don't match up with what people are saying. Let's start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong, he's Joe Getty on this. It is Thursday April 9, the year 2026, where Armstrong and getting. We approve of this program.

[Joe Getty]

Let's begin the show now, officially, according to FCC rules and regulations. Here we go at Mark. We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the they're doing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you understand that? That's new. Yes, because I remember him saying that a couple of years ago about Israel.

[Joe Getty]

Do we have the, the providence that was outside the White House? Do we have the date line? The circa was Anybody?

[Jack Armstrong]

Somebody?

[Joe Getty]

Any. Let's verify.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's just verify for when he first started getting involved in the Israeli conflict, do you think, before we take a break and get to Katie's headlines, do you think it's still on the table for the whole end of civilization strike that we had our gun cocked for 48 hours ago.

[Joe Getty]

I would certainly hope so. Yeah. But like I said, several of the learned commentators I was reading seemed to think that, no, this is a clear signal that we decided not to bring that hammer down. Trump decided not to.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that clip was from 2025. Why was that our opening clip? I thought that sounded familiar. I remember him saying that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Wait a minute. There will be firings. Mass firings.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mass.

[Joe Getty]

A purge, mass firing. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Katie Green]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

You ever heard of Pam Bondi? Huh?

[Jack Armstrong]

Seems like.

[Joe Getty]

What's her name? Ice Barbie.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael Overreaction. But I thought, thought that clip sounded familiar to me. Anyway, we've got Kenny's headlines on the way and all the latest news and maybe some news from middle of five. Also here on the Armstrong and Getty Show.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Tiger woods is not playing in the Masters which begins today?

[Joe Getty]

No indeed. The swole has been is pilled up somewhere of his choosing, Jack and will

[Jack Armstrong]

not be in Augusta careening around a neighborhood somewhere right now. Or he's in a European rehab, right?

[Joe Getty]

Right. So he's not even at the Champions dinner which is for in the golf world it says you don't. Just don't miss it. Anyway, glad you're here a ton to get to. Let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green. Katie.

[Katie Green]

All right, starting with the Alphabet Network's abc. Trump vows quote, bigger and better Iran attacks if deal is not reached. Cnn, US Iran cease fire holding despite Lebanon, Lebanon strikes and restricted streets of Hormuz. And NBC. Iran warns of quote, strong responses as Israel's attacks on Lebanon threaten the ceasefire.

[Jack Armstrong]

Israel's definitely taking this opportunity to wipe out all of their enemies.

[Joe Getty]

Good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Go ahead. Yeah, I have no problem.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not sure there was a single phrase you uttered, Katie, in all of those headlines that wasn't like, open to interpretation.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure, right.

[Joe Getty]

Hall of mirrors shrouded in fog.

[Jack Armstrong]

I also think Trump's threat just doesn't work as well now. It just doesn't feel the same as it did with the 48 hour white civilization off the planet deadline. So I don't know if it's, I don't know if it reads the same way to them.

[Katie Green]

From Newsweek. Automatic military registration for eligible U.S. men to begin in December.

[Jack Armstrong]

We don't already register,

[Katie Green]

I guess Automatic registration.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if that's much of a change

[Katie Green]

from the free Beacon. Federal judge authorizes evictions at condominium besieged by suicide sprawling homeless encampment.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, that the county in Maryland. Ultra blue county. Let the bum camp take over and drive people out of their homes. Out of their homes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Katie Green]

New York Times. US Fertility rate drops to another record low. What is it, 53.1 thousand? 53.8.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, it's, it's lowest it's ever been. I've got more information on that, too. Crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yipes.

[Katie Green]

Axios.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that's with letting in lots and lots of people who are more likely to have babies. If we were, you know, hostile to any immigration, like China, for instance, what

[Joe Getty]

would our birth rate be then? And for the first time ever, more women gave birth in their 30s than their 20s.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's wild.

[Joe Getty]

First time.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's not surprising. No.

[Katie Green]

Axios. Gen Z's fading AI hype. Teens and 20 somethings are less excited about the technology.

[Joe Getty]

Well, they'll, it'll render them unemployable. So I get their lack of enthusiasm.

[Katie Green]

This one from the Daily Mail quote, I'm still alive says Michael J. Fox after embarrassing CNN error fueled death rumors.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did CNN tell the world Michael J. Fox was dead?

[Katie Green]

They had this big headline across their website that said remembering the life of Michael J.

[Joe Getty]

Fox.

[Katie Green]

And everybody lost their ass thinking he was dead.

[Jack Armstrong]

He was watching CNN at an airport and thought to make a phone call.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, I feel pretty alive. Yeah.

[Katie Green]

New York Post stressed Gen Z is carrying around anxiety bags.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I was gonna mention that later, but we can tie that in with your earlier headline. How can everybody in their twenties be so anxious, stressed out, miserable, yet deciding that having kids would be a bad idea? No, no, no, no.

[Joe Getty]

The sense of purpose would take care

[Jack Armstrong]

of all that stress and anxiety, I think.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, there's nothing like being busy to diminish stress and depression.

[Jack Armstrong]

Everybody knows it. There were.

[Joe Getty]

There was zero anxiety and depression when he had to plow a field from dawn till dusk. Now, I'm not saying everybody needs to do that all the time, but you get my meaning.

[Katie Green]

And I couldn't pick between two Babylon bees this morning.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we have two.

[Katie Green]

This one from the Babylon bee Nike releases new Tiger woods ad campaign quote. Just use your billion dollars to hire a full time driver.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Katie Green]

Or as astronauts reach the farthest any human has been from Earth, mission specialist is pretty sure he left the oven on. I have done that. Except with a hair straightener.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

We gotta play this thing JD Vance said about his wife and skydiving and. And Iran getting nuclear weapons.

[Joe Getty]

Pardon me, Are these headphones working correctly? What?

[Jack Armstrong]

And try to figure out what that means. Among other things we can discuss today.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And I'll absolutely bring you kind of a digest of different opinions of where this whole thing is. And. And there's all sorts of fair. Unrelated to Iran too, that we can talk about.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Turns out the cops think that dude pushed his wife off the boat as a shock.

[Joe Getty]

Nobody saw that at all.

[Jack Armstrong]

You almost fooled us. Good God.

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[Joe Getty]

Podcast.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Yeti on demand.

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Armstrong and Getty.

[Jana Kramer]

This is Jana Kramer from Wind down with Jana Kramer. Every Mother's Day, I tell myself I'm going to be more thoughtful than flowers, because flowers are beautiful. But they don't last. In my house, everyone always ends up in the kitchen. Friends, family, the kids. And I love having things around that spark conversation and feel special. That's why I love the Lennox Spice Village. And your mom will too. It's a set of 24 hand painted little houses that are actually spice jars. And I swear people notice it the second they walk in. It's charming, it's nostalgic, and it somehow makes even everyday cooking feel a little more fun. And here's the best part. It actually gets used every day. Whether you're starting the full set or helping her complete one. She's loved for years. There's a whole world of Spice Village to explore this Mother's Day. Give her something she'll treasure long after the card is put away. Trust me, once you see it, you'll want one too. Find the full [e-mail] SpiceVillage so you're

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[Bethenny Frankel]

is Bethenny Frankel from Just Be with Bethany Frankel. Let me be blunt. Most dog food is junk. It just is. And I'm not feeding junk to Biggie and Smalls. That is why they eat just food for dogs. It's real, 100% human grade food with ingredients I actually recognize, not mystery pellets pretending to be healthy. And once I switched, the difference was obvious. Better digestion, better skin, more energy. Dogs who actually feel good instead of just surviving dinner. Here's the thing. You care about quality. You make an intentional choice to be healthy. So why are you gambling with your dog's health? So let's think about our furry babies. Go to justfoodfordogs.com right now and get 50% off your first box. No code. Just try it. Because once you see the difference, you're not going back.

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I can't stop thinking about how grass lawns are racist and, like, based in white supremacy. If that doesn't make sense, that's okay. I guess it seems really obvious to me. It's. It's really upsetting. Bring back weeds. Bring back clover yards. Look, can we just. Can, can anything just be okay in its natural state? Or do we just have to. To whitewash everything? Make it a competition and use it as a sign of your worth as a human being in society. Like, can we just have weeds?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Much better that you delayed having kids until your 30s to, you know, get your act together in your 20s. So you can worry about lawns being racist. That had to be rage bait, right?

[Joe Getty]

White supremacist.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what I.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I don't know. My lawn is racist, but, you know, each their own.

[Jack Armstrong]

I watched it several times.

[Joe Getty]

She's.

[Jack Armstrong]

If, if she's making that up, she's a really good actress.

[Katie Green]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I would agree. I think that was 100 sincere, judging by other things I've seen. I. I was talking to our gardener the other day and I. I said, look at that over there. It's all patchy. Next thing you know, we'll be minorities. You've got to make the lawn look nicer. I'm a white man and stern talking to. Yeah, and it worked too. He just came right to heal. Yes. Wow. These people are crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, the fact that you'd even have to ask the question, is that real or fake? Shows you how far down the road of craziness we are. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Before we get back to the theme of the birth rate and people in general not having kids and what that causes, as long as we're on this theme. Hey, Michael, this is number 12. Is a. A Canadian MP Member of Parliament. You're going to want to grab a pencil or a pen and a piece of paper because the code has just gotten longer.

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When the budget was released, I was shocked to find out that Prime Minister Carney is cutting $7 billion between Indigenous Services Canada and Crown Indigenous Relations. They provided $0 to deal with the ongoing genocide of MMIWG2SLGBTQIA plus. This is abhorrent.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. It is abhorrent.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was a whole bunch of new letters I'd never heard before.

[Joe Getty]

I believe that Leah Gazan is a. A fella presenting himself as a woman or vice versa or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

They, they, they rolled that all those letters out though. Like they've said that multiple times. Did I miss the update?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I think them must, must have memorized that. Can you roll. Can we jump into the middle of it, Michael?

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Is that possible of indigenous women and girls to SLGBTQIA plus.

[Joe Getty]

You jumped into the middle of the letters. Little further back.

[Various Advertisers]

When the budget was released, I was shocked to find out that Prime Minister Carney is cutting $7 billion between Indigenous Services Canada and Crown Indigenous Relations. They provided $0 to deal with the ongoing genocide of MMIWG2SLGBTQIA plus. This is abhorrent.

[Joe Getty]

Somebody's got hard to hear about the genocide. MMI wg2slgbtqia plus. There can't be much left that the plus includes. I mean, how many more letters would there be if you eliminate the plus or like three more or 50?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and it's a genocide of that

[Joe Getty]

group that is going on in their many incarnations. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right under our noses.

[Joe Getty]

I'm anti genocide.

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Let the record show particularly indigenous women and girls to us LGBTQIA plus.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, where were we? Ah, yes. Why? The US Fertility rate has hit a record low. Childbearing is shifted toward women 30 and older, and we are further below the level needed to sustain the population. Nation's fertility rate hit record lows in 2025, surpassing the record low in 2024. For the sixth straight year, the number of children born in the US remained at roughly the same number. Do they break this out by immigration status, I wonder? I don't actually know that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Have you ever heard anybody other than us talk about it's not people aren't choosing this. It's. It's. They think they are, but something happened to the beast with us being safe and comfortable that we lost the desire to have kids. I've never heard Anybody talk about that

[Joe Getty]

other than us and I, in a shockingly short time?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I believe that's what happened.

[Joe Getty]

Virtually Everybody in the 80s desperate to get together, to be in a couple, to couple off, to have sex, to be making out with somebody of the opposite or same sex. Don't ask, don't tell. I mean, it was damn near universal.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're also the richest. We've ever been. That. That stuff we did earlier in the week, that study showing that the reason the middle class has shrunk is because so many people are upper class now. So the idea that, well, I'm putting off having kids because you can't afford it, which is what a lot of people say doesn't make any sense because our parents had kids, you know, living in an apartment with one car because the desire was so strong. The desire has gone away to have kids. That's the.

[Joe Getty]

That's the story. Why? Yeah, I think there. There are some sociological. Like the mindset of society re. Children has changed, but that. And I think that's a part of the stew, but I think that's like the carrots in the stew. And everybody ignores what you're saying, which I think is. Is the meat and potatoes and everything else.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, especially we had the. The data a month or so ago that this is happening everywhere. Rich country, poor country, populated, not populated, first world, you know, whatever.

[Joe Getty]

It's just countries full of really hot people. More homely countries as well.

[Jack Armstrong]

People have stopped having babies.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so something happened.

[Joe Getty]

This. Yeah, I.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, our sperm count has dropped, like, by half.

[Joe Getty]

Speak for yourself.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I have a microscope and I check it once a week every every Sunday morning.

[Joe Getty]

That's a great policy. Yeah, I've been neutered, as you know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I count them. One, two, no longer lost my place.

[Joe Getty]

Stop moving.

[Jack Armstrong]

They keep swimming around. So sperm count has dropped a lot. But, you know, it's. People aren't trying to have kids, so it's not that that's causing the lack of kids, but I'll bet it fits in. For some reason, biologically, our male bodies decided we don't need sperm. And, And. And also our minds have just decided, yeah, I don't need to. I don't need to procreate.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'm leaning toward that explanation. It could be that there's something biochemical going on environmentally, plastics that's driven this. Microplastics, I don't know. But I'm leaning toward something else. No, not that. Not that. Candace. Oh, my Lord. Okay, Tucker. Tuck. Tuck. Anyway, I have a Feeling it's that we are like a deer population that senses that it's overcrowded, there's no food, and so we stop reproducing until, you know, the. The numbers are better in line. We don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

More wolves hunting humans, but it clearly is a thing and it doesn't show any sign of reversing. So we need to restructure society around this at some point.

[Joe Getty]

You know, it's. You're right. Nobody talks about what we're talking about but us. I'm looking at some of the demographers and experts being quoted in this article, and here's a typical person. Wendy Manning, demographer at Bowling Green State University, quote, people are waiting longer to enter parenthood and probably want to make sure that things are set in their lives before they do. So there might be a lot of uncertainty, and that might not be good for a society in general. Those things are true, but they were never a factor in having children prior to now. No. It could be. I don't know. There's so many different possible explanations, but it could be what I'm always harping about, which is we are getting way more inputs all the time than human beings were ever designed to take in, and we are overwhelmed. I don't know. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I do know this, and this is annoying to people who don't have kids, perhaps, but nothing I've ever done in my life even comes close. I mean, it's not even in the same ballpark, the same universe for giving you a sense of purpose as having kids. So it. It's like being a different human being having kids as opposed to not having kids? For me.

[Joe Getty]

Correct. So

[Jack Armstrong]

what does. What does that do to society if you have more of the other crowd that doesn't have this particular. You design everything in your life around it.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you're not. I don't. I don't know what that does to the economy or certainly our. Our government programs that are built on an expanding population, that those don't work.

[Joe Getty]

And as always, don't take any of this as a judgment of you as an individual. We don't give a crap what you do, and I mean that sincerely. Live your life however you see fit. We're dedicated small L libertarians. Your business is your business.

[Jack Armstrong]

Reminds me of a Seinfeld Comedians in Cars with Coffee, where Jerry's talking to John Mulane, who at the time was a big advocate of being childless. Him and his wife. I'm not having kids. You know, no offense. And Jerry Seinfeld said, you can't offend me. I don't care what you think.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, beautiful. But anyway, I was just going to point out that a lot of the explanations and rationales presented in this article having to do with, you know, costs of housing or a getting your career started and traveling and having nice stuff and blah, blah, blah, none of those are incredibly powerful biological imperatives. Whereas reproduction is. And the fact that that stuff would trump an incredibly powerful biological imperative is just something really, really big is happening. You can't rationally decide to ignore if you're falling in love unless there's something wrong with you.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's not a powerful biological imperative. It is the powerful biological imperative. That's what all beasts are designed to do. The only reason you continue breathing is part of. To keep you alive so you can procreate.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And we've decided we don't want to for some reason. So that's pretty amazing.

[Joe Getty]

Which will cause a massive redesign of society. Oh, God. I'd say I would like to at some point get to the fact that Yale Law School has been booted out of the number one ranking. It's held for a very long time, more than 35 years now. Your U.S. news and World Report. College rankings, flawed. Everybody knows it. It's fine. We talk about it. But the reasons they got booted out are interesting. And it absolutely has to do with being woke. We'll see if we have time for that. I thought this was interesting. Ford, the Ford Motor Company is hammering the administration for relief because tariffs have pummeled the F150 and other American manufacturers. The large ones can lobby, the small ones are just screwed. A lot of the stuff that was tariffed are the inputs to the final assembly. And the brilliance of the American corporations have now gotten hosed because they can't get the aluminum.

[Jack Armstrong]

For instance, you know, I was at a big, big bed store the other day that we're going to start doing business with here on the show. And they were talking about how they had to adjust to the tariffs. And I thought, oh, right, the tariffs. That whole thing.

[Public Investing Announcer]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you're a business person, that actually had a real life effect on you. It wasn't just a topic on cable news.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And some of the costs have been spread around here, there and elsewhere in a way that hasn't brought like cataclysm or rampant inflation at this point. But it's. It's a serious problem. It's not helping.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, Katie, we got a homework assignment for you. Can you write down all those letters from that woman and then try to look up what they all represent because I would like to know that the wwr.

[Joe Getty]

That was. That was an eye roll. That was an eye roll.

[Katie Green]

Not a problem, Jack.

[Joe Getty]

MMI W G2 cell G B T Q QIA plus well, it's.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's for the. I going to get a great deal of entertainment out of it.

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Particularly indigenous women and girls to slgbt. QQIA plus.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but that. That was different. That like started right in the middle of it.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, she cuts off the beginning of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, we needed the whole thing with the mmw.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, oh, oh, wait a second.

[Jack Armstrong]

Play that again, Michael.

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Particularly indigenous women and girls to slgbt.

[Joe Getty]

So that was. That was the I W G. Indigenous women and girls. But she skipped. Skipped.

[Jana Kramer]

He.

[Joe Getty]

It skipped over the MM. Before the IW2 GSL GBTQIA plus they

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provided $0 to deal with the ongoing genocide of MMIWG2SLGBTQIA plus oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

How can you. How can you sit back and watch?

[Jack Armstrong]

Is it Major Marcels?

[Joe Getty]

I believe it is. Yeah. Undersized. Katie will look it up.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's her homework assignment. And we'll get to that. Probably an hour too. We got mailbag coming up. Stay here.

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Armstrong and Getty,

[Jana Kramer]

this is Jana Kramer from Wind down with Jana Kramer. Every Mother's Day, I tell myself I'm going to be more thoughtful than flowers because flowers are beautiful, but they don't last. In my house, everyone always ends up in the kitchen. Friends, family, the kids. And I love having things around that spark conversation and feel special. That's why I love the Lenox Spice Village. And your mom will too.

[Jack Armstrong]

1.

[Jana Kramer]

It's a set of 24 hand painted little houses that are actually spice jars. And I swear people notice it the second they walk in. It's charming, it's nostalgic, and it somehow makes even everyday cooking feel a little more fun. And here's the best part. It actually gets used every day. Whether you're starting the full set or helping her complete one she's loved for years. There's a whole world of spice village to explore this Mother's Day. Give her something she'll treasure all long after the card is put away. Trust me, once you see it, you'll want one too. Find the full [e-mail] SpiceVillage so you're

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[Bethenny Frankel]

is Bethany Frankel from Just Be with Bethany Frankel. Most dog food is marketing, not nutrition. That is why Biggie and Smalls eat just food for dogs. Real 100% human grade food with ingredients I actually recognize. And yes I do see the difference. Better digestion, healthier skin, more energy. Dogs that feel better. My babies, if you've been on the fence about switching, stop overthinking it. What's more important than your furry babies and their health? Go to justfood4dogs.com right now and get 50% off your first box. No code needed. Just try it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, I just read a great piece by Noah Ross Rothman in the National Review. About what? How the world could change if we decide that this is the way we're going to do things. Having countries charge tolls for their waterways. This could change the whole world very very quickly.

[Joe Getty]

Oh boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe we'll get to that now. Or two.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I love that topic. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day sent along by alert listener Jeff in Hogs Nipple, Tennessee. It's unincorporated. Don't look for it on a map. It's from the great Whig Henry Clay. He said this in 1840. Misrepresentation, falsehood, bribery, forgery, perjury, corruption of the ballot boxes have all been established upon the members of that Democratic party. When one party employs such means, sooner or later in self defense and from necessity, the other party will be tempted to appeal to the same arts and the corruption of the whole mass will quickly follow. Then farewell to liberty or Goodbye sweet America. As I've been saying through the years. Mailbag Drop us Note [e-mail] these are out of order.

[Jack Armstrong]

Dang it.

[Joe Getty]

Where is it? So courtroom's out of order? It's a good point Tom. And Windsor writes a guy on the topic of AI versus real musicians creating music. My only argument against your belief is that it's better to have artists creating music versus AI is Billie Eilish's speech at the Grammys. I welcome our computer overlords. Well played Tom. Let's see a number of emails about the woke nut job Jennifer Siebel Newsom including this one Call me a fascist on the topic of giving boys visiting home my my folks home. I found a shoebox of my old matchbox cars. I gave them to my daughter and she set up a day at the park narrative. Friends were meeting for a picnic, someone twisted an ankle but firemen because there was a fire truck were at the park working out and an ambulance took the injured person to the hospital. Okay. Two years later I gave my son the same box of cars. He set up a multi car accident where the fire truck got t boned on the way to the accident. The ambulance also was struck as it neared the accident. The scene was overturned cars, burning vehicles and mass mayhem. Same gene gene pool. Same parenting, very different outcomes. Same toy, Same toys. Yeah. Oh my God. That's great. Who's that? Ted. Well played Ted. Well done. This is so perceptive JN writes. Guys, when you played that clip of Newsom's wife pitching the idea that society's problems would vanish if we just put more women in the room, I immediately thought back to your Heaven on Earth discussion on the Ang Extra Large podcast from years ago. Heaven on Earth was a book about socialism, specifically the part about those early communist theorists who are so detached from reality that they believed if you just organized society correctly, conflict wouldn't just disappear among people. But even in the natural world following the global communist revolution, predators and prey would live in harmony. Pure delusion dressed up as intellectual insight. The similarity between that line of thinking in the first Partners comments were striking. Same brand of crazy. If we all just buy into their cockamamie ideas, then suddenly all of society's problems melt away. It's not just optimistic, it's completely delusional. Yeah, great comparison. I gotta reread that book.

[Jack Armstrong]

An hour two we'll nail down all those letters in the new LGBTQ thingy so we all know them and can reproduce them at will to our Marxist overlords. Yes, if you missed a segment, podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. A lot more on the way.

[Bethenny Frankel]

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[Joe Getty]

Net.