No Fun, Not Worth It

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "No Fun, Not Worth It" (May 7, 2026)

Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Episode Theme: An irreverently insightful discussion dissecting the latest headlines, with special focus on the war in Iran, Jeffrey Epstein’s suicide note, the rise of "Enhanced" (doping-allowed) Olympics, plastic surgery trends, and the spiraling state of LA politics and homelessness.

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Jack and Joe bring their trademark blend of humor and skepticism to a turbulent news week. They analyze the impact of the Iran war on U.S. strategy, break down the sudden appearance of Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged suicide note, riff on the coming “Enhanced Games” (Olympics-without-drug-testing), and lampoon plastic surgery trends. A deep dive into LA’s mayoral debate offers both outrage and comic relief, with drug-fueled homelessness and city governance under a scathing microscope.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Has the War in Iran Weakened or Strengthened the U.S.?

(01:29–03:32)

• Jack critiques CBS coverage for settling on a single analyst’s opinion:

  “Asking one guy who says this has been bad for the United States, like, well, that’s the final word is nuts. If you’ve been paying attention to the war at all, there are all kinds of different opinions...” (01:41)

• Joe laments the lack of curiosity by mainstream media, wishing for real follow-ups and analysis:

  “Journalists talking heads are so incurious... It was obvious that he was noodling through the answer and gave an answer. It's made us weaker. How do you not follow up with in what way?” (02:42)

• Both hosts argue any discussion on the war's merits must be filtered through preventing Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons.

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2. Jeffrey Epstein’s Suicide Note Unsealed

(03:32–08:33)

• The supposed note from Epstein is finally made public, leading Jack and Joe to mock conspiracy theories and media coverage:
  • Quoting the note: “‘It is a treat to be able to choose one’s time to say goodbye. What you want me to do? No fun, not worth it.’” (04:46)
  • Jack:

    “‘No fun, not worth it.’ That’s my new slogan.” (05:05)

  • Joe:

    “I’m gonna bellow that as I leave many a gathering, meetings, court hearings, you name it.” (05:08)

• They question why it took so long to surface and whether the secrecy around the note makes sense.
• Jack:

  “Everything around the Epstein case has been a... Probably shouldn’t have been leaked from day one.” (06:34)

• The conversation drifts to Epstein’s lack of family and fitting sociopathic profile:

  “He’s a sociopath who lived purely for his own pleasure. And the pleasure had come to an end.” (07:50–08:01)

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3. Hantavirus on a Cruise Ship & Birdwatching Gone Wrong

(11:10–12:45)

• Comic relief as the hosts discuss a cruise ship disease outbreak traced back to Argentina where:

  “The leading theory is that a couple caught the disease before boarding, exposed to rodents during a bird watching tour that included a stop at a landfill.” (11:41)

• Jack:

  “Let’s go over to this landfill and watch it peck around in the garbage. There are a lot of rat feces around here anyway.” (12:04)

• Joe:

  “I always thought part of the whole bird watching appeal would be some of the locales you would go to. Not a landfill.” (12:22) “It’s the Argentinian refuse hawk. Beautiful plumage.” (12:31)

• “Rat watching” jokes and references to infamous New York City rats provide levity.

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4. The “Enhanced Games” – Olympics Without Drug Rules

(13:20–19:16)

• A new athletic event allows full performance enhancement:
  • Jack:

    “This competition is saying there will be no blood tests. Show up and race... Anabolic steroids, peptides... whatever you want to do, do it. Compete in track, swimming, weightlifting, attempting to beat official world records.” (14:08)

• Prize pool: $25 million in athlete compensation.
• Joe is highly skeptical:

  “Is this brought to you by GNC or something? What is the point of this?... This seems completely ridiculous to me.” (14:43, 15:33)

• Both debate whether even highly enhanced athletes can outpace natural greats:

  “Can somebody beat [Usain Bolt’s] record being all roided up? I’ll bet not.” – Jack (18:51)

• Memorable Quote:

  “Yeah, you’re going to have a couple of heart attacks on the field of play and, you know, various infarctions and strokes and whatnot. But these guys know what they’re doing... Suspicious bulges in the women’s uniforms.” – Joe (16:31)

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5. LA Mayoral Debate & the Drug/Homelessness Crisis

(19:36–30:38)

Setting the Stage

• LA’s race gets more coverage than the gubernatorial debate—LA’s struggles captivate public imagination due to crime, wildfires, and high-profile personalities like Spencer Pratt.

Crime & Drugs: MacArthur Park Report

• Fox News’ Matt Finn:

  “I saw people getting high and all around were people apparently doing what’s called the fentanyl fold, when people’s bodies fold in half. While on fentanyl, I also saw a young man hit the ground, go unconscious. He was revived by LA homeless workers... they left him with boxes of Narcan.” (21:46–22:20)
  “In one stash house alone, 40 pounds of fentanyl was recovered. Street value, eight to $10 million, the equivalent of 190,000 potentially fatal doses.” (23:02)

Debate Highlights – Spencer Pratt’s Rants

• Spencer Pratt:

  “Downtown is so unsafe now that they have to serve the food, all the employees have to eat inside. They can’t risk going out. That’s why all these beautiful restaurants are closing, because it’s so unsafe.” (24:08) “Inside safe makes all of us outside unsafe. The reality is no matter how many beds you give these people, they are on super meth, they are on fentanyl... 93% of this is a drug addiction problem... These ideas cost us over $400 million to house for 670... 3,000 people for 400 million is an absolute failure.” (26:32)

• Jack:

  “It's not a housing problem, it's a drug problem. Spend your whole three minutes saying that.” (27:16)

Progressive Responses

• Councilwoman Nithya Raman:

  “This is a MAGA Republicans idea of what Los Angeles looks like...” (28:27)

• Hosts mock this as a typical non-answer, used to deflect without solutions.
• Jack:

  “You hem and you ha. And you call them. It works all the time.” (28:44–28:49)

Voting for Non-Citizens

• Pratt answers simply:

  “No.” (29:18)

• Mayor Bass and others filibuster with “It depends” instead of answering directly, exemplifying evasive political tactics.

Policy & Results

• Jack repeatedly emphasizes policy change as the core cause of SF’s dramatic transformation:

  “I've never seen any area anywhere in my life change the way San Francisco changed with a change of mayors... it's amazing.” (31:41)

• Joe:

  “Policy matters.” (31:57)

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6. Plastic Surgery Crazes: "Elf Ears" in Asia

(35:02–38:19)

• Joe:

  “Beauty standards, especially for women, are just fascinating and crazy... The most coveted cosmetic enhancement in Asia right now, ELF ears.” (35:10)

• Explained as an illusion to make one’s face seem smaller—a beauty ideal in South Korea—with a social media boom fueling the trend.
• Jack:

  “I don’t think I could date a chick with elf ears. You’re gonna have to throw on a beanie. I just can’t look at those.” (38:02)

• Hosts draw parallels between modern cosmetic excesses and traditional tribal modifications, suggesting all cultures have their own extreme beauty standards.

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “Asking one guy who says this has been bad for the United States, like, well, that’s the final word is nuts.” – Jack Armstrong (01:41)
• “No fun, not worth it. That’s my new slogan.” – Jack Armstrong (05:05)
• “I’m gonna bellow that as I leave many a gathering, meetings, court hearings, you name it.” – Joe Getty (05:08)
• “Inside safe makes all of us outside unsafe.” – Spencer Pratt (26:32)
• “It’s not a housing problem, it’s a drug problem.” – Jack Armstrong (27:16)
• “This is a MAGA Republicans idea of what Los Angeles looks like...” – Councilwoman Nithya Raman (28:27)
• “Policy matters.” – Joe Getty (31:57)
• “ELF ears are the coveted look in beauty obsessed South Korea...” – Joe Getty (35:10)

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Memorable Moments & Timestamps

• Epstein’s suicide note riffing and adoption of “no fun, not worth it” as a new catchphrase (05:05–05:20)
• Birdwatching at a landfill and resulting “rat watching” jokes (11:41–12:45)
• The hosts lampooning the idea of “Enhanced Games” and joking about chemically overpowered athletes (14:08–19:16)
• Spencer Pratt’s fiery soundbites on LA downtown safety and drug addiction (24:08, 26:32)
• Jack’s exasperation at evasive politicians refusing straight answers and the way policy shapes city outcomes (27:27–31:57)
• Amused incredulity at the ELF ear surgery trend—comparison to tribal customs (35:10–38:19)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Iran War Coverage & Media Critique: (01:29–03:32)
• Epstein Note Unsealed: (03:32–08:33)
• LA Mayoral Debate & Homelessness Crisis: (19:36–30:38)
• Enhanced Games/Olympics Discussion: (13:20–19:16)
• Plastic Surgery Trends – ELF Ears: (35:02–38:19)

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Conclusion

Armstrong & Getty’s “No Fun, Not Worth It” delivers sharp, sardonic commentary on headline news, exposing absurdities in both national media narratives and local governance. The episode’s mix of irreverence and hard-edged skepticism, especially regarding politics and social trends, makes for an engaging listen, highlighted by memorable quotes and laugh-out-loud moments.

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Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Has this war, war made the US Stronger strategically or, or the opposite? I think it's pretty much made the US Weaker ultimately. I don't think this has been exactly

[Joe Getty]

what the United States bargained for.

[Jack Armstrong]

And there you go. There's CBS Evening News coverage of the war in Iran. You ask one guy, did the war make the US Stronger? Weaker? He goes with weaker. And in other news, what the hell? I actually uttered an oath out loud when I saw that in the news last night. I like Elliot Ackerman, that was the analyst there. His book about war. One of the best things I've ever read in my life about war. Highly recommend it to anyone. You can listen to it. He reads the book if you do the audiobook, but it so good. But anyway, asking one guy who says this has been bad for the United States, like, well, that's the final word is nuts. If you've been paying attention to the war at all, there are all kinds of different opinions by lots of people giving their straight analysis of it's been a success, it's been a failure, it's been this, it's that, you know, mixture of that's just why. Why do we need to do this? Why treat us like we're idiots? Because we are idiots. Is that why?

[Joe Getty]

That's the one right there. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was the CBS Evening News. God, that bothered me.

[Joe Getty]

Quote unquote. Journalists talking heads are so incurious, as I'm frequently saying. I mean it was obvious that he was noodling through the answer and gave an answer. It's made us weaker. How do you not follow up with in what way? You obviously were struggling to answer that definitively. But tell me about your thinking. No, of course not. No, you just good thing or bad thing? Good thing or bad thing?

[Jack Armstrong]

And actually you're sort of gonna play that to tease that we'll talk about the war in Iran later. Not here, but every one of these discussions, whether it's made us weaker, stronger price of gas, whatever it is around with the war with Iran has needs to be filtered through the Is it worth it to stop them from having a nuclear weapon filter and a heap

[Joe Getty]

and helping of we're in the middle of it. So hard to say.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, and it's not over yet. But anyway, more on that later. So the Epstein note is out. Here's what it said. If they find my body, Hillary did it signed Epstein's mom, which is a joke.

[Joe Getty]

A lot of ways to interpret that. I, it's, it's, it's some puzzle.

[Jack Armstrong]

You can only get the Epstein's mom joke if you're at least 60 years old from welcome back Cotter back in the day. Anyway, here's the actual report on Epstein's suicide note, whether it's real or not.

[Joe Getty]

This is the purported suicide note that his former cellmate claims Jeffrey Epstein left behind the first time he tried to kill himself in jail. A federal judge ordered it unsealed tonight, giving the public and investigators their first look at it. They investigated me for months, found nothing. The note said. It is a treat to be able to choose one's time to say goodbye. What you want me to do? No fun, not worth it. Wow. All right. You know, it's funny, I had the same gripe. The Wall Street Journal has an article about this thing. It is 3, 6, 7 lines long, partial lines long. And they all edit it and summarize it for you.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's seven lines long. Just say what it says.

[Joe Getty]

Here's what it says. They investigated me for month, found nothing. So 15 year old charges unreadable. It is a treat to be able to decide, choose when time to say goodbye. What you want me to do bust out crying. No fun, not worth it.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's my new slogan. No fun, not worth it.

[Joe Getty]

I'm gonna bellow that as I leave many a gathering, meetings, court hearings, you name it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, and you just leave it. Not. Not. You're not arguing toward hanging yourself with your pants.

[Joe Getty]

You're.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, different argument.

[Joe Getty]

I'm gonna stand up and say, no fun, not worth it, and walk out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Aaron Katerski of ABC News goes on to say that it hasn't been verified if it's real or not, at least yet. And the question looms of if this existed all these years, how did it just come out now? Which seems a little.

[Joe Getty]

A sealed part of a case involving one of his cellmates, but still, somebody.

[Jack Armstrong]

Somebody had to know that existed. The cellmate knew existed, obviously. And various lawyers, judges, whoever. All this time with everything going on with Epstein. There was a suicide note out there and it was kept secret. I just. I'm.

[Joe Getty]

I'm This.

[Jack Armstrong]

I find that hard to believe.

[Joe Getty]

This con. It was one of his possession. I don't know the law around this. It's possible. It would be highly illegal to release it as it's evidence case this guy was, I would guess, trying to use it as leverage to get a reduced sentence or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're going to tell me nobody would make an illegal leak around the Epstein

[Joe Getty]

case at this point? Absolutely not. That would be unethical, Jack. Really?

[Jack Armstrong]

A throwback your head.

[Joe Getty]

Hilarious statement right there. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Especially if TMZ is paying, you know, seven figures for it or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Everything around the Epstein case has been a. Probably shouldn't have been leaked from day one.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, true enough.

[Jack Armstrong]

What? And it's his first suicide attempt, which I had forgotten existed, which to me makes it all the more likely that he killed himself, which I've always believed anyway. The fact that he tried to kill himself once before, and nobody's doubting that that was real or. I've never heard anybody doubt that his

[Joe Getty]

first suicide attempt was for real. If you.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you try to kill yourself once and fail and then you end up killing yourself and everybody jumps to the conclusion of he couldn't have killed himself. Seems kind of weird to me.

[Joe Getty]

Of course. Sure. Sure. Michael, you need to. To use. Is what you want me to do. Bust out crying? You need to yell that at Jack now and again. No fun, not worth it. I'll keep that in mind. Excellent.

[Jack Armstrong]

No fun, not worth it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is that the kind of note you would write right before you hang yourself in your cell?

[Joe Getty]

I like the. It's a treat. To be able to choose one's time to say goodbye.

[Jack Armstrong]

That sounds real.

[Joe Getty]

Sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

But no, no, of course he's a sociopath.

[Joe Getty]

At least incredibly self indulgent to the point of victimizing many other people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because I was about to say, you got nothing for kids, wife, friends, posterity? Nothing. But he's a sociopath who lived purely for his own pleasure.

[Joe Getty]

And.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the pleasure had come to an end. So.

[Joe Getty]

Well, probably had neither wife nor kids, so that would be odd to shout out to them.

[Jack Armstrong]

He has no kids?

[Joe Getty]

I don't think so.

[Jack Armstrong]

Never married.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Jelaine Maxwell.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't. You'd think I'd know this, but I don't know it. I've never heard reference to a wife or kids.

[Joe Getty]

No, me neither. No, I don't think he's the Marian type.

[Jack Armstrong]

Either way. I suppose if you're a sociopath who's lived only for pleasure, there's not much to say when you've reached the end of the road. I guess the pleasure's over. Oot.

[Joe Getty]

Who else are you gonna name Jack? Jack, his beloved Uncle Jim, and the Easter Bunny. What are you doing fantasy land here? Outrageous. I'm just mad because he was right about? Somebody would've leaked it. The cellmate, Nicholas Tartaglione. Nikki Tarts guarantees. Called Nikki Tarts on the street briefly shared the Manhattan cell with Epstein. He said he found the letter and gave it to his lawyers. The former police officer was later convicted of multiple murder counts and sentenced to life in prison. So he's a real treat.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Yikes. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Before we take a break and move on to other stuff, well, first this and then my favorite clip of the day. First this and then my favorite clip of the day.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Wolf so we got to talk about the war in Iran at some point where we are on that. There was a mayoral debate for Los Angeles. I really get the sense that in terms of news coverage, I think in California and nationally there seems to be more attention on the mayoral race in LA than the governor's race for whatever reason.

[Joe Getty]

There's a lot there, I think.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know if it's the personalities or the storyline with the fires or whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, that's it. You've got a entertainment because you got some big personalities, including this Spencer Pratt. Is that his name?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not young enough to have watched his reality show, but. So you got him. You got Karen Bass, who's a big name. You have the Wildfire, which is a compelling narrative. And you've got a city that may be the. The target of more fascination around the world than anywhere else. Los Angeles, where dreams and movies are born.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we've got some of the debate stuff a little bit later this hour. And we want to talk about the rise of anti Semitism. But this is my favorite clip of the day. This is. We opened the show with the opening clip from the show there, Michael. This is about the people getting sick and dying on the ship, the cruise ship and all that sort of stuff. They think they've nailed down where the hound of virus came from.

[Joe Getty]

The point of infection may have been Argentina, where investigators say the leading theory is that a couple caught the disease before boarding of exposed to rodents during

[Reporter]

a bird watching tour that included a

[Joe Getty]

stop at a landfill. Wow. Honey, did you sign us up for this tour?

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's stop here in Argentina and go check out the. See, I've got every book, every bird in my book. I've checked the mark, including some very rare birds, but I haven't seen the, the argentarian trash s bird yet. So let's go over to this landfill and watch it peck around in the garbage. There are a lot of rat feces around here anyway. Well, over there.

[Joe Getty]

I wouldn't worry about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wouldn't worry about it either. Holy crap.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'm telling you, that's, that's, that's not a pleasant outing.

[Jack Armstrong]

I always thought part of the whole bird watching appeal would Be some of the locales you would go to to to observe the birds. Not a landfill.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Honey, look.

[Joe Getty]

It's the Argentinian refuse hawk. Beautiful plumage. Or maybe they were rat watching and they followed the rats to a bird sanctuary and were disappointed at all the birds flying around.

[Jack Armstrong]

Rat watching. That's what I should do. Going to New York this summer.

[Joe Getty]

We're gonna see disease.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're gonna try to see the North American subway rat

[Joe Getty]

pizza rats they got there in New York.

[Jack Armstrong]

We got more on the way that we mentioned. Stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, the more I read about this, the more interested I am at. The very first ever enhanced Olympics is coming up in two weeks in Las Vegas. Peter Thiel is behind it. He's one of the PayPal mafia billionaire dudes. You've probably heard of me, gets involved in politics all the time, I think.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don Trump Jr. Is a partner with one company that's helped behind this. Anyway, the premise is pretty easy to understand. You know how they're really, really do their best to crack down on doping in most of your sports, whether it's the Tour de France or obviously the Olympics or anything like that. This competition is saying there will be no blood tests. Show up and race.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, just do whatever you want to do. The Roid Games.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Anabolic steroids, peptides, I don't even know what that is. Growth hormones, stimulants, metabolic modulators. Whatever you want to do, do it. Competing in track, swimming, weightlifting, attempting to beat Official World records, $25 million in total Athlete compensation on the line. So there's a lot of prize money to be made for winning, whereas most of your, most of your athletic events, you know, you're not winning any money. You hope. Maybe you make money off endorsements if you win, but you don't get paid for being the world's fastest man until you start doing endorsements.

[Joe Getty]

Is this brought to you by GNC or something? What is the point of this?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, the. I don't know if they're trying to put a positive spin on it or if they actually mean it. But to a certain extent it's going to be to let regular people know about supplements you can take that will help you with your 10k or this or that, that aren't really harmful. Certainly if you're gonna just use them for a while in your life, there's no, no, you know, Bad effects for a lot of this stuff. But I don't know how you're going to separate that out from. Okay, so that guy's taken something I could sprinkle on my fruit smoothie in the morning. That would give me a little more energy. How are you gonna separate that out from the fact that he's also taken human growth hormone for the last 20 years and he looks like a freak?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. This seems completely ridiculous to me. And I was right. So it's brought to you by supplement makers.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I think it's trying to get you to gobble whatever. Yeah. Great.

[Jack Armstrong]

To a certain extent, they just want to see what the limits are of the. The human body when using the best available supplements. Drugs you can take to run fast, lift weights.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I'd say it's going to be used to build Chinese super soldiers, but honestly, they got robot dogs with machine guns out of their eyes, so they don't need super soldiers.

[Jack Armstrong]

I guarantee they're already doing this anyway. They got.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

They got platoons of men on all kinds of supplements, growth hormones, whatever. You know, the, the Nazis famously. And we didn't know this until the 90s. The Nazis famously. The reason they were able to pull off what they pulled off was they were on meth. That's how they, they did day after day without sleeping attacks and nobody could stop them. They were on method.

[Joe Getty]

Method radios. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. You're gonna have a couple of heart attacks on the field of play and, you know, various infarctions and strokes and whatnot. But these guys know what they're doing. They're. They're grown men and women. Suspicious bulges in the women's uniforms. But that might be a transgender thing. You don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have no problem with this. I can't wait to see it. Now. The. Your Olympic body and the various other races where they try to keep drugs out of it are hardcore against us and hate it and, and have banned, preemptively banned any athlete that competes in this or coach. You're not allowed to participate in any of the, you know, sanctioned non drug athletic events anywhere in the world. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

You've gone to the dark side. So you kept using the, the something or other Olympics. Obviously that's not the, The, The Enhanced

[Jack Armstrong]

Games is the actual name.

[Joe Getty]

The Enhanced Games. I see. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Huh.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. The Roid Olympics or whatever you want to call it, or whatever people will start calling it. There was a Monty Python. Was it Monty Python bit way back in the days. Where somebody's trying to lift a really heavy weight and they pull and then their arms pull off and blood squirts everywhere. That can happen.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. That's beautiful.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tons of money on the line. They got $2.7 million gonna be split across 60 different swimmers, different races.

[Joe Getty]

Wonderful. Thomas is gonna be there. Wow. I mean, do they limit it to like dudes, women in the women's sports or can you just throw on a little makeup and claim you're a woman? Like, I don't know. California track and field.

[Jack Armstrong]

What remains to be seen, it says here in this serious analysis of it, is whether athletes the Enhanced games will actually break records. The Olympics have the best talent pool for these sports on earth. And though there are former medalists competing in the Enhanced Games, they're no longer, you know, at their highest competitive level or they obviously would be competing at that level. So it's possible that even roided up best runners out there that are willing to take all this stuff can't run as fast as the naturally fastest 20 year old Argentinian or whoever currently is the world's fastest man.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I guess. Usain Bolt still has the record for the 100 meter dash. Can somebody beat his record being all roided up? I'll bet not.

[Joe Getty]

So a fat guy who spends most of his time on his couch gets all jabbed up with various hormones and steroids and stimulants and all runs on eight. 100 yard dash. Yeah. Great. That sounds entertaining.

[Jack Armstrong]

That'd be awesome. I think it's gonna be fantastic.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, speaking of odd behavior and enhancement, the newest craze for plastic surgery in Asia will make you laugh. Man, beauty standards are odd. Coming up, the fiery mayoral debate in Los Angeles. Oh, the highlights are great. Stay with us, Armstrong and Gettys.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the question is, do we play clips from the LA mayoral debate or the governor's debate last night? You're saying there wasn't a governor's debate last night? And I'm saying yes, there was. There was a California governor gubernatorial debate last night that got zero attention. Nobody even hardly knows what happened. They had debates two nights in a row. Did you know that? No, you didn't? It's weird.

[Joe Getty]

Seems like a lot. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is it weird though that the number biggest state in the country and everything like that? They had a gubernatorial debate. You didn't even know what happened last night. But I do want to throw this in all the Democrats doing the whole raise your hand if bull s that they should ban from debates. Raise your hand if you're committed to finishing the bullet train. And all the Democrats raise their head if their governor, they will commit to finishing the high speed rail project.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. 253, 500 billion. Whatever it takes.

[Jack Armstrong]

And still no trouble.

[Joe Getty]

There was a very jazzy mayoral debate in Los Angeles last night. Getting a lot of attention for a handful of reasons as we were chatting about earlier. Number one, I think LA is probably fascinates people around the world as much as any city on earth. The entertainment industry, the glamour, et cetera. Plus you had the wildfire, which is absolutely horrible. And the response to it has been utterly incompetent. And we're gonna accent that later on. But the other big topic which any Cal Unicornian would say yeah of was crime and drugs and safety on the street. And, and it's, it's terrible in la. You know, San Francisco has probably gotten more attention than it deserves compared to LA's bums and junkies situation.

[Jack Armstrong]

And at the LA Times pointed out yesterday, two different cities going two different directions. The two biggest cities in California, LA and San Francisco. San Francisco is completely different than it was a couple of years ago because

[Joe Getty]

a new mayor, new policies. Right. So just to kind of lay the groundwork for the debate, this was an enormous story yesterday in the world of drugs, but in LA, Matt Finn of

[Reporter]

Fox News, MacArthur park is supposed to be a family park, but it's known for brazen drug use and two gangs fight for control of it. Ms. 13 and their rival 18th street gang. I went to the historic park yesterday, just hours before the federal raid. I saw people getting high and all around were people apparently doing what's called the fentanyl fold, when people's bodies fold in half. While on fentanyl, I also saw a young man hit the ground, go unconscious. He was revived by LA homeless workers who told him he overdosed and they left him with boxes of Narcan.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. We could certainly pause and reflect on the state of parks in California.

[Jack Armstrong]

The fentanyl fold.

[Joe Getty]

There's more.

[Reporter]

Now, Shortly after that, 300 federal and local agents stormed the area. They cleared the park. They cut locks on storefronts where drug dealers allegedly stashed product. Six businesses in total. The DEA tells me they did a two month undercover investigation and determined the Sinaloa cartel brings fentanyl and meth into Los Angeles and it's sold and distributed from the park. 25 people are federally charged, including a female ringleader and her boyfriend associated with the 18th street gang.

[Joe Getty]

Final clip.

[Reporter]

Now, in one stash house alone, 40 pounds of fentanyl was recovered. Street value, eight to $10 million, the equivalent of 190,000 potentially fatal doses.

[Jack Armstrong]

For some reason, I can't stop thinking about the homeless workers there in the park, because I have a relative who was doing that sort of thing. And you're on the side of Jesus. I mean, that's the sort of thing Jesus would have done. But God, that's got to feel like a. You're not getting anywhere. The drug addict who likes doing drugs and will tell you openly they don't want to stop died again. So you run over and revive them. And then. And then they go back to doing

[Joe Getty]

drugs under the watchful eye of the Sinaloa cartel operating freely in Los Angeles. Yeah, those of you who live in normal parts of the country are probably shocked and horrified by all of this, as you should be. So there was under that, Paul. They conducted a mayoral debate last night, as we mentioned. Let's start with the upstart candidate, Spencer Pratt, and some of the things he said.

[Spencer Pratt]

What's your plan? Thank you, sir. Well, first off, I was just talking to my friend Rachel who works in downtown la. Downtown is so unsafe now that they have to serve the food, all the employees have to eat inside. They can't risk going out. That's why all these beautiful restaurants are closing, because it's so unsafe. So before we require city workers to go back into any buildings, we need to enforce the laws on the street. Councilwoman Rahman is talking about safety. Yet when animal rescue activist Rebecca Corey came in and said the DOC are being tortured and abused on the streets of Dunhole, she walked out of the hearing. She doesn't care about safety. She doesn't care about anything she's talking about. At least Mayor Bass pretends to care.

[Joe Getty]

We've got to sell Spencer Pratt and Armstrong and Getty Enforce the law T shirt.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was just thinking, I wish I could get into his ear. The LA Times didn't want to put a fine point on why San Francisco has completely revitalized itself while L. A is a toilet, that it's policy. The LA Times article yesterday talked all about because Silicon Valley and AI has blah, blah, blah. No, you. The people got so sick of it, they elected a mayor that swore he was going to do something about it. And I'm telling you because I've seen it with my own eyes. It went from. You couldn't walk through Union Square. There were. There was a. There was a temporary police headquarters set up next to the park there because everything was so bad, to where the Last couple of times I've been there, I haven't seen a single homeless person, not one. That was all because of a change of mayors and a change of policy. And you could do that in Los Angeles too.

[Joe Getty]

Junkies, street people, right? Yeah, legendary. Stores that were there since your dad was in the merchant marine are closed now. It was terrible. But they bounced back to some extent. The only contradiction I would offer is that the Silicon Valley, I think matters. Because in all of these cities, in all the blue cities and Portland, I've got a report on Portland that'll make you weep for that once great city. The poor people and the middle class people are screaming, please clean up the streets, enforce the law. But the progressives ignore them. In San Francisco, you've got the super duper heavyweights of tech who are saying you gotta clean up the streets. So they're being heard anyway. Spencer Pratt went on.

[Spencer Pratt]

First off, inside safe. I like to say inside safe makes all of us outside unsafe. The reality is no matter how many beds you give these people, they are on super meth, they are on fentanyl. The DEA statistics says 93% of this is a drug addiction problem. Nithya. Councilwoman Robins plan for treatment. First, I will go below the Harbor Freeway tomorrow with her and we can find some of these people she's going to offer treatment for. She's going to get stabbed in the neck. These people do not want a bed. They want fentanyl or super meth. These ideas cost us over $400 million to house for 670. What is it? 3,000 people for 400 million is an absolute failure for both of them. They're a team.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wish he and I wish he and others would just state it more clearly. It's not a housing problem, it's a drug problem. It's not a housing problem, it's a drug problem. Spend your whole three minutes saying that.

[Joe Getty]

Right? I mean that 93% is. Drug addiction is a great statistic. But you know, I get it, he was excited, he went super fast. But yeah, that needs to be repeated over and over and over again for reasons we've discussed. You have three separate problems. You have an enormous drug problem, a significant mental illness problem and a very small housing problem. And yet the activists who profit from this, remember those hundreds of millions of dollars in LA or tens of billions of dollars in California, somebody's getting that money. Hmm. To pretend that it's just a housing problem because the money keeps flowing. Next clip. This is the Councilwoman Ramen Nithya. Rahman, who Spencer was referring to, responding to what he just said. You have 30 seconds to respond.

[Spencer Pratt]

And then Conan has a question that, that coincides with all of this, please.

[Jack Armstrong]

Great.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, I don't, I'm not sure how to respond to that vision of Los Angeles.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is a MAGA Republicans idea of what Los Angeles looks like. This is, this is really not, this is really not the city that, that

[Joe Getty]

I love so much. That was the answer. The question is what does it sound like when somebody has no argument on their side?

[Jack Armstrong]

But it works.

[Joe Getty]

You hem and you ha. And you call them.

[Jack Armstrong]

It works all the time.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, yeah, in places you deserve.

[Jack Armstrong]

In blue states and blue cities, it works. Yeah, but the Republican is a Trump adjacent. You know, it's just, it's like voting for Trump, voting for that guy.

[Joe Getty]

So. Yeah, yeah. Well, if you fall for that, you get the government you deserve. One more clip.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is a yes or no question, an answer.

[Joe Getty]

So there's an LA council member. He wants voters to decide. He is saying that non citizens, should they be allowed to vote in local elections. Is this a yes or no, Mr. Pratt?

[Spencer Pratt]

No.

[Joe Getty]

Mayor Bass?

[Spencer Pratt]

It depends. It's not a yes or no.

[Jack Armstrong]

Depends on what?

[Spencer Pratt]

Well, first of all, when you say non citizens, it doesn't mean they're here illegal. It doesn't mean they're undocumented. They could have green cards, they could be here. Perfectly legal. And there's a lot of states and cities that do that on very, very local elections. We have to see what the councilman is proposing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Council member Bremen.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I would say again, it does depend.

[Jack Armstrong]

In other places, school boards have non citizens.

[Joe Getty]

Non citizens. Yeah, yeah, that's, you know, that's a pretty good illustration of how it goes with conservatives and progressives. He followed the rules, even though we're not big fans of yes, no questions. Although this one I think is reasonable. He followed the rules. They filibustered and there's no sanction for it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Also thought during one of those answers, it's amazing, the leap in talent. Apparently it's necessary to go from mayor even of Los Angeles. You know, the biggest mayor jobs in the world you're in, you're. You're still single. A ball for debates compared to like presidential candidates. It's interesting.

[Joe Getty]

I like the line about getting stabbed in the neck. That was great. They don't want housing, they want super meth. All right, here's what you want. You want to take care of the

[Jack Armstrong]

people stabbed in the neck.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, as little as 30 minutes. You could start having you know, where your assets gonna go and have that designated so it doesn't end up in a court and you know, people fighting with each other and getting their own lawyers and not speaking to each other for the rest of all families, eternity also you know, end of life decisions, all that sort of stuff in as little as 30 minutes. And you can make it state specific because different states have different laws.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

I keep harping on it and I will stop for now. But I've never, I've never seen any area anywhere in my life change. The way San Francisco, San Francisco changed with a change of mayors. It's just, it's amazing. It's amazing. Yeah, you can't emphasize it enough.

[Joe Getty]

Policy matters.

[Jack Armstrong]

Too many people. I think we just were just built to kind of think, well times change and things change. The policy.

[Joe Getty]

Injustice. No, it's injustice. It's systemic racism. It's, it's income inequality. It's all ideological. This theory and that theory, that's what people have been convinced of that was policy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did they got all the hantavirus people off of that boat? We'll have to get into that story.

[Joe Getty]

Plus I'll give you 137 guesses what the most popular plastic surgery is in Asia and you're not gonna get it. Beauty standards around the world are so nuts. Well, I want a butt lift so

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm hoping that's becoming popular. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Gettysburg.

[Jack Armstrong]

You should ask for a little more. Promise you there's never a team member on that line is going to say no to eat. We will continue to put heaping spoonfuls of food and bowls and Doritos.

[Joe Getty]

It has always been our brand ethos

[Jack Armstrong]

and it is still to this day.

[Joe Getty]

We serve big beautiful bowls and burritos, no questions asked.

[Jack Armstrong]

I Tell my team all the time, put as much food in that bowl and burrito as you possibly can.

[Joe Getty]

I want the consumer to tell you it's too big.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a good chipotle.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. It's the CEO.

[Jack Armstrong]

So is that. I. I just. I'm amazed. I. I don't feel like I go to restaurants because, oh, their portions are so giant. I don't ever go anywhere where the portions aren't giant. So I. That's not a, like a draw for me.

[Joe Getty]

That's. That's squarely aimed at the young man market, isn't it? Or the poor, or the, the gal who knows she can get two to three meals out of the burrito that's the same size as her head. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

The problem with burritos is every time I get one anywhere, when I start with it, holding it in my hands just like I held Sam and Henry when they are babies. Roughly the same size.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. The burrito.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wherever I bought it, I think I say to. I said to my son the other night, do not let me eat this whole thing. Look, I'm holding this. This thing feels like it weighs five pounds. There's no way I should eat this whole thing. All right? If a half of this isn't left when I stop, I've made a mistake. And then I eat the whole thing.

[Joe Getty]

Damn, you're like a hungry bear.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you get going and it tastes good and you think, haven't done. I'd have to wrap it up and put it in the car and car's gonna. Might as well just eat it.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I don't show hands to those of us who are able to restrain ourselves and take a bit home. Yes, that's fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

I used to tell my kids, it's part of your term if I, If I. If I eat. If I eat this, punch me in the neck, you know, whatever. Like, then Henry punched me in the neck one time, not realizing he was kind of what I was like. You know a saying rather than, oh,

[Joe Getty]

gee, Matt ordered, I really hurt getting

[Jack Armstrong]

punched in the neck. So I've had to change my directions.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, imagine getting stabbed in the neck like in the LA Mayor debate. Anyway, so the other day we brought you the story of how Mar a Lago face is the hottest thing in plastic surgery and how really rich women show how rich they are. Not with the designer handbag. Too easy to get. Not by flying first class. Too easy to get.

[Jack Armstrong]

Easy to do.

[Joe Getty]

No, by getting their face carved up. By getting too much quote unquote plastic Surgery. It's insane. Beauty standards, especially for women, are one of the most just fascinating and crazy topics on earth. The most coveted cosmetic enhancement in Asia right now, ELF ears. Demand for injections and other measures to artificially enhance ears is soaring, especially in South Korea, where a wide face is something to hide. ELF ears are the coveted look in beauty obsessed South Korea, where residents seem to be on a never ending quest for cosmetic improvements. That'd basically be children.

[Jack Armstrong]

That'd basically be pointy ears.

[Joe Getty]

Larger, more out from your head and. Or pointy ears.

[Jack Armstrong]

While the larger out from your head is a surgery that was like. Lots of people get to get rid of that.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. In the west, yeah. Larger ears can create the illusion of a smaller face, a prized trait in East Asia, where big heads aren't usually a big plus. Japanese use handheld massage rollers to reduce overnight facial swelling. Chinese deride people with larger, flatter mugs as having pancake faces. Koreans idolize an angular V shaped jawline. Evidently, the elf ear movement swept through all of those countries in recent years, but has really stayed on in South Africa. Korea. The country is home to the Beauty Belt, a Seoul neighborhood that has more plastic surgery clinics than La Miami and Rio De Janeiro combined.

[Jack Armstrong]

I feel like Western society, advanced Western society used to look at those African tribes like that, put the plates in their lips to make their lips all big and flappy. Or if you put the rings around your neck to stretch your neck out is like really backwards and simple. And how ridiculous is that? But we're doing the same thing, just in a different way. Yeah, it's just as ridiculous to do whatever Jeff Bezos's wife is doing.

[Joe Getty]

And here's a glimpse of the modern world. ELF ears first emerged about five years ago when an influencer in China posted about undergoing surgery to have more prominent pointy ears. The hashtag ELFEAR Cosmetic Surgery now has more than 780 million views on China's Weibo. That's just China, which is admittedly a giant country. But as the trend took hold, less invasive options began to arise for the ELF ear. Curious. Besides filler injections, there's also tape designed to create a similar effect when wedged behind the ears. Still, the look didn't fully latch on in South Korea until last year, when a K pop singer named Mimi, part of the oh My girl group, confessed to using elf ear tape. Thousands of ear tape products proliferated online. Queries for ear filler exploded by 1,200% on Barbie Talk, an information platform for cosmetic influencers and cosmetic procedures.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think I could date a chick with elf ears. You're gonna have to throw on a beanie. I just can't look at those.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. Elfin haircut is kind of cute, but I don't know if I need the ears. The pointy ears. South Korea really needs to have some children.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, we're starter and weirder. Too much time on your hands, Warner, and pretty big story. We haven't touched on it much. Where are we on that whole thing? The ceasefire. Who's winning this whole deal, by the way, is probably worth taking a look at briefly, among other things. On the way. If you missed a segment, you can get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand. Subscribe and then you'll get it every single day. More on the way.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Gettysburg.