No One Has Ever Called Me Placid

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand Episode: No One Has Ever Called Me Placid Release Date: April 14, 2025 Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

In the episode titled "No One Has Ever Called Me Placid," hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into a range of topics, blending personal anecdotes with sharp commentary on current events and societal trends. The conversation oscillates between humorous exchanges and serious discussions, providing listeners with both entertainment and insightful perspectives.

Health Concerns: Strep Throat and Personal Health

The episode opens with a candid discussion about Jack Armstrong’s battle with a severe sore throat, speculating on whether it might be strep throat:

• Jack Armstrong [03:26]: "I have the worst sore throat I've ever had. But my windpipe feels like it's the size of a little tiny straw. It's just so tight."

• Ryan Seacrest [03:44]: "Sounds like you have a raging infection of some sort."

This personal health concern serves as a segue into a broader conversation about the contagiousness of strep throat and personal health practices, highlighting the importance of medical consultations and preventive measures.

The Psychology of Rewatching TV Shows and Movies

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around why individuals choose to rewatch TV shows or movies they've previously seen. Referencing a University of Chicago study, the hosts explore the psychological underpinnings of this behavior:

• Jack Armstrong [08:54]: "Rewatching provides a way to restore energy and regain a sense of peace. It's moments when the world feels uncertain. Your brain reaches for what it knows."

• Ryan Seacrest [14:03]: "Instead of shouting serenity now, you watch Frank Costanza shouting serenity now on an episode of Seinfeld you've seen 15 times."

The conversation underscores the concept of emotional regulation, where familiar media content offers comfort and stability in an unpredictable world. Armstrong contrasts his own viewing habits with those of his father, who avoids rewatching shows, suggesting differing coping mechanisms based on personal temperament.

Political Violence and Media Influence

The hosts transition to a more serious topic: an alarming increase in political violence and its portrayal in the media. They discuss a recent arson attack at Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's residence, highlighting the disturbing trend of such acts being motivated by political beliefs:

• Ryan Seacrest [06:07]: "Two assassination attempts on Trump, an assassination attempt on Brett Kavanaugh, the shooting at the baseball game a number of years ago."

Armstrong and Seacrest express concern over the normalization of political violence, debating its roots and the societal factors contributing to this trend. They critique the media's role in either exacerbating or mitigating these violent tendencies, emphasizing the need for responsible reporting.

The Cult of Luigi Mangione: Glorifying Criminals

A focal point of the episode is the disturbing phenomenon surrounding Luigi Mangione, an individual who assassinated a healthcare executive. The hosts explore how Mangione has garnered a cult-like following, comparing it to other instances where criminals are lionized:

• Jack Armstrong [25:59]: "You guys are some twisted human beings. You're hurting your cause, as is often the case with these people."

• Ryan Seacrest [30:55]: "She has meant moral retardation of some sort. That's hard to picture."

They discuss the media's uncritical coverage and the public's willingness to idolize such figures, questioning the societal values that allow for the elevation of murderers to sainthood. The conversation extends to the psychological appeal of Mangione's followers, who see him as a martyr for healthcare reform.

Media Critique: Taylor Lorenz and Public Perception

Armstrong and Seacrest critically examine the role of journalists like Taylor Lorenz, accusing her of exacerbating the problem by sensationalizing and unjustly promoting figures like Mangione:

• Ryan Seacrest [25:59]: "The utterly unhinged Taylor Lorenz, who was a hot columnist for the New York Times, then the Washington Post."

• Jack Armstrong [28:03]: "I think you're star spangled, Austin. So good."

They argue that such media figures contribute to a distorted public perception, enabling the glorification of individuals who commit heinous acts under the guise of political activism or social reform.

Psychology of Attraction and Public Figures

The hosts delve into the psychological aspects of attraction and its influence on public perception of individuals like Mangione:

• Ryan Seacrest [36:40]: "Psychological studies have shown that people react more positively to the Attractive. They assume they're more competent, more intelligent, nicer people, whatever than they actually are."

• Jack Armstrong [36:20]: "If you're a stupid person, I'd imagine that sort of pull is even stronger."

They discuss how physical attractiveness can skew public judgment, leading to overestimation of an individual's virtues and underestimation of their flaws. This phenomenon plays a significant role in how society responds to charismatic or visually appealing figures, even when their actions are reprehensible.

Conclusion: Despair for Humanity and Societal Reflections

As the episode draws to a close, Armstrong and Seacrest express a sense of despair over the current state of society, citing the examples discussed as symptoms of deeper societal issues:

• Ryan Seacrest [35:00]: "Luigi Mangione is a saint. According to his fans... it's a clear example of how terrible those new gods are."

• Jack Armstrong [38:02]: "We need more of that everywhere. Schools, movie theaters."

They advocate for a collective introspection on how society elevates harmful behaviors and individuals, urging a return to rationality and empathy. The hosts emphasize the importance of addressing systemic issues without resorting to violence or extremism, promoting peaceful and constructive avenues for change.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Jack Armstrong [08:54]: "Rewatching provides a way to restore energy and regain a sense of peace."

• Ryan Seacrest [14:03]: "Instead of shouting serenity now, you watch Frank Costanza shouting serenity now on an episode of Seinfeld you've seen 15 times."

• Ryan Seacrest [25:59]: "The utterly unhinged Taylor Lorenz... she used the term Stan a couple of times."

• Jack Armstrong [30:55]: "She has meant moral retardation of some sort."

• Ryan Seacrest [36:40]: "Psychological studies have shown that people react more positively to the Attractive."

Final Thoughts

"No One Has Ever Called Me Placid" offers a compelling mix of humor, personal insight, and critical analysis of pressing societal issues. Through their engaging dialogue, Armstrong and Seacrest challenge listeners to reflect on media influence, the psychology behind media consumption, and the troubling trends in political violence and public perception. The episode serves as both a mirror and a critique of contemporary culture, urging a move towards greater awareness and thoughtful action.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Googly eyes on the front of trains.

[Ryan Seacrest]

So at least you'll see a friendly face coming to help when you're pushed on the track. Oof. Yikes.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's strep throat?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Let's say streptococcal infection of your throatal region. Streptococcus aureus. I can't remember. I took microbiomes a long time ago and I may have been stoned.

[Jack Armstrong]

And were they bigger than the Tyrannosaurus or.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, need a tyrannosaurus for lunch.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I have a doctor's appointment, but I have the worst sore throat I've ever had. But my windpipe feels like it's like the size of a little tiny straw. Just like. It's just so tight.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Sounds like you have a raging infection of some sort.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. How did that go? Or allergies, anyway. So if I do have strep, what will they do? Put me on an antibiotic?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yep.

[Jack Armstrong]

How contagious is strep throat?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Pretty. I don't remember.

[Jack Armstrong]

More or less than chlamydia.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, my Lord. Well, it certainly spread differently. I don't remember, you know, having raised three kids, that's like an important part of your, you know, knowledge and techniques and the rest.

[Jack Armstrong]

We've never had strip in our house. I've never had it. My kids haven't had it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Really?

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, everybody got their tonsils still and all. We all got our tonsils.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you have your tonsils? I do, but I'm reading on the Google machine that strep is worse in people that have tonsils still. And it's contagious through respiratory droplets.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Jack.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes, there you go. So very contagious. My eldest, Kate, she had her tonsils removed because she got strep throat so off.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. You'll get my tonsils when you prime out of my cold, dead hand. I'm hanging on to these.

[Ryan Seacrest]

What are your tonsils doing in your hands? How does that even work?

[Jack Armstrong]

Got a number of things we want to get to this hour, including this story, which I found really dang interesting. Why do people watch a TV show or movie they've already seen? And there's actually science behind it that I found. First of all, it makes perfect sense, and also makes perfect sense why some people, like my dad, for instance, would never watch a show. I mean, way back in the day when, you know, there were three channels and all that sort of stuff, and TV shows went into reruns in the summer he would never. I've seen this. And he'd get up and leave. He would never watch something twice. It fits in perfectly with the science.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wow, I can't wait because I rarely do. But there are a couple of movies I'll watch again. They're so good, but. Okay, I'll stay tuned.

[Jack Armstrong]

We haven't mentioned this news story that happened in Pennsylvania over the weekend. I think Saturday night.

[Ryan Seacrest]

An arrest after what police called an act of arson at Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's residence where he and his family had gathered to celebrate the first night of Passover. The governor says he woke up to police banging on the door around 2am he and his family quickly evacuating. They're currently working on getting everybody evacuated. There's about 25 people inside. Authorities are investigating whether the arson could have been motivated by the governor's Jewish faith. The suspect was able to breach the fence here at the Governor's man and make it inside the residence where he started the fire. He's facing several charges, including attempted murder.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the guy not only got onto the grounds of the governor's mansion, got into the freaking mansion and was in there long enough to set a for real fire. I mean, when I first heard the story, I thought, okay, how much of a fire? I mean, I don't know if you've seen the damage to the mansion, but that was a dang fire. It was, you know, a real, you're in threat fire. Which is kind of hard to imagine with a, you know, modern systems that we've got and everything like that that I assume that they would have it at Governor. Governor's mansion.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, the whole thing's pretty troubling. I guess the family was in a different part and it's like a multi building thing. I think like a complex more than a house. But I don't know specifically.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, but I don't know how comforted you would be if you got out of your house and found out he was in another part of the house where he started the fire.

[Ryan Seacrest]

The guy that's not comfortable.

[Jack Armstrong]

The guy that broke into your home while you were asleep without anybody catching him. Are you hearing him and was there long enough with the intent to kill you? Yeah, that would be unnerving. And of course he's got a family and everything like that, but just the children. Yeah, he gave a little speech about political violence that I thought was pretty good of nonpartisan. We got to stop this. We gotta, we gotta quit accepting political violence, which I agree with 100%, but we've been accepting it. Way too many people accept it on the other side. Whatever side your is, you accept it on on your side, not the other side.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yet the list is growing long. Two assassination attempts on Trump, an assassination attempt on Brett Kavanaugh, the shooting at the. The baseball game a number of years ago. Just example after example. It can't, you know, you'd be. I'd be tempted to say, you know, I. You don't want to make too much of a deal over one nut job who's hearing voices in his head. But there's undeniably a pattern that this is an exceptional. I'm not exceptional. Acceptable option for various, you know, semi deranged people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, the blase attitude of mainstream media toward burning down all the Teslas, does that make this sort of thing more likely or less likely? Obviously more likely.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Speaking of which, I'd like to, after a break, get a little bit into the cult of Luigi Mangione.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's trouble. Troubling.

[Ryan Seacrest]

The demented young man who assassinated a healthcare executive on the streets of New York and the admiration for him and. And something like a religious cult is formed around him that, you know, I wasn't aware of because I, you know, it's not the sort of people I hang with who would get drawn into that, but it's a strange and troubling tale.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And then how much of it has to do with the fact that he's good looking? Which is also disturbing.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, why would that play?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Homo sapiens as a species.

[Jack Armstrong]

So dumb. So dumb. So that's a good one. All the stuff we teased. Good stuff. Why don't you stay here?

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

What are you gonna do?

[Jack Armstrong]

Go yourself? You got my campus with that hat on. Actually out of here. I don't care, you Nazi. Take that hat off. You understand me? Take it off. Take white gold Trump hat off. He's aing loser and you're a Nazi punk. You boo. This. This guy's a Trump supporter.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Boo.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is that real? Is that real?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. I'll Be danged.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Unhinged.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'd say. Which I wanted something showing the unhingedness of modern life to get into this story. And it also reminds me of something an old boss of ours said to us one time. That people don't know what they like, but they like what they know. Which is pretty good.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And kind of fits in with this some study done by the University of Chicago. And this is about watching a TV show, an episode of a show you've already seen or a movie you've already seen. Why you do that and why some people don't. Rewatching the same show again. Man, my voice really kind of craps. Cracks sometimes when I. Yeah, it's.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's rough. You need to get to the doctor.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because I'm dying. Yeah, everyone's watching.

[Ryan Seacrest]

All dying, Jack. Slowly from time.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is right. Rewatching the same show again and again isn't a sign of laziness. Says the University of Chicago study. I never thought of it as laziness.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Did anybody think it was?

[Jack Armstrong]

Why would that be laziness? Because it's not much work to switch to a different show.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes, that's a stupid thing to say.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's actually a form of emotional regulation. When life feels overwhelming or unpredictable, your brain craves familiarity. Watching a show you've already know gives you a sense of control, comfort and stability. There are no surprises. There's no tension. You know exactly what happens next. And that predictability helps calm your nervous system.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wow. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Makes perfect sense. It does make sense. Rewatching provides a way to restore energy and regain a sense of peace. It's moments when the world feels uncertain. Your brain reaches for what it knows. It's a self regulation mechanism. I know exactly how this is going to play out. There's a bunch of things going on in my life, in the world. I don't know how they're going to play out. I'm feeling crazy. These aren't conscious thoughts. But I'm going to watch this TV show and I know exactly. I know that Chandler's about to run through the door. I know exactly what he's going to say to Monica and it's going to be hilarious.

[Ryan Seacrest]

So I was just going to say instead of shouting serenity now, you watch Frank Costanza shouting serenity now on an episode of seinfeld you've seen 15 times.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I. Man, now ever since I had kids, I don't think I've watched a single thing multiple times because I don't have time. But back in the day I would, I would, you know, get home Friday night, get a home late, worn out from the week, watch a movie I've seen before, at least part of it. And that's probably what was happening at the end of a long week. It's self regulation. And it also fits in, I thought, with. I don't know how many people are like this, but like my dad who never would watch anything again. It's just like I've seen that, why would I watch it again? He's the most even keeled person I've ever known in my life. So he doesn't need that for whatever reason.

[Ryan Seacrest]

So he doesn't.

[Jack Armstrong]

His brain doesn't desire the self regulation because he's already regulated. So both ends of that fit together to me.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Or he's secretly boiling him inside and is about to explode. He's held it in for 87, 87 years, but he's only human. No, that's amazing. I, I have no doubt there are people like that that are. No drama. We can deal with this and yeah, they don't need that. How interesting, huh? That makes perfect sense. And it's not laziness. You say idiotic thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that is idiotic, huh? Well, I kind of like that there's a, a helpful scientific reason why some people would do it. And you know, I hadn't thought about the other end of it, but I feel like people I've known who really watched a lot of shows that they've seen before kind of were a little all over the place emotionally. Probably needed more self regulating than maybe I do or.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Hot tempered. Yeah. How interesting. Yeah, I'm thinking of various folks I know they need predictability who really enjoy the familiar in their lives and many of them are, you know, quite successful and interesting people. But I would not describe them as placid. They're more fiery placid.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nobody's ever described me as placid.

[Ryan Seacrest]

No, not, not likely to. So I like the angry Bostonian, the Massachusetts guy calling people effing Nazis for wearing a MAGA hat. Sir. Like half the voting population voted for the guy. Right again, acting like it's some bizarre. Like you're some sort of out there nut job Nazi. I just. Speaking of perspectives I don't get.

[Jack Armstrong]

See, there's a guy who should go home and watch some reruns of Friends of episodes he's already seen.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He really should. He play that clip again, Michael, and then I'll, I'll set up 26. You remember which one that was blanking Nazi. I don't see it either. Where'd it go?

[Jack Armstrong]

67.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Thank you. What are you gonna do?

[Jack Armstrong]

Go yourself? You got my campus with that hat on.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Actually, it's out of here.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's actually a public out of here. I don't care, you Nazi. Take that hat off. You understand me? Take it off. Taking white gold Trump hat off. He's a loser. And you're a Nazi punk. You boo. This guy's a Trump supporter. That's quite a boo.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That is something. That is something else. All right, so now, if I understand it correctly, Katie, I don't want to give too much away, but a man is confronting his neighbor for committing an act of political protest. Should I say what it is or does it become obvious in the clip?

[Jack Armstrong]

It becomes obvious.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay. All right. Let's all enjoy it together.

[Jack Armstrong]

What number is this?

[Ryan Seacrest]

26. Here it comes. What? Mashed potatoes on the side of my car here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did you or didn't you?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Because I've got cameras up there facing you. Get off the driveway now.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not on this side.

[Ryan Seacrest]

This is the middle. You are trespassing. Get off my parking area. Listen, did you throw. Get out of here. Fast food on the side of my Tesla now. Why did you throw fast food on the side of my tusk? You threw mashed potatoes on my car. What is wrong with you? You sit here, you drive in, you drive out. You have junk cars all over. What do you do?

[Jack Armstrong]

You drive in and you drive out. That's what people do in their driveways, you moron.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Can they please be on TV tonight? Solid two hours.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was a great finish. You drive in and you drive out.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's what people do in their driveways. You're moron. That may be the Cleveland. I love that. Play that again.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's great.

[Ryan Seacrest]

What? Mashed potatoes on the side of my car here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did you or didn't you?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Because I've got cameras up there facing you. Get off.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Ryan Seacrest]

In the driveway now.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not on this side.

[Ryan Seacrest]

This is the middle. You are trespassing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get off now.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Listen. My parking area. Listen. Did you throw. Get out of here. Food on the side of my Tesla? No. Why did you throw fast food on the side of my test? You threw mashed potatoes on my car. What is wrong with you? You sit here, you drive in, you drive out. You have junk cars all over. What do you do?

[Jack Armstrong]

You drive in and you drive out.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's what people do to their driveways.

[Jack Armstrong]

You.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, my God. Seen out, assigned.

[Jack Armstrong]

I need more. That I Know, that is. That is a classic. Like that might be a tease for a reality show that's going to start soon. Because that made me want. I need more. I need more background. I need to hear more of their conversations.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Katie, whatever else you do, find us. Is there more of that argument anywhere?

[Jack Armstrong]

What do they look like?

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's what people do in our driveway. They drive in, they drive out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Kramer, you can't see the guy who's filming, but the woman, she's late 50s, early 60s, short gray hair. I mean, just, you know, typical. I'm not sure I would identify mashed potatoes right off the bat. If I saw them on my vehicle, I'd probably think something worse than that. So you can see her in the ring camera doing it. And it's a good old kfc Mashed potatoes there, huh?

[Ryan Seacrest]

You drive and you drive out. You got cars on blocks. That's what people. You want to hear it one more time?

[Jack Armstrong]

The ending part. I wish I could hear one more time.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, we just need to get to the end.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael, that is. That's pretty good.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hate it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

These people always exist and we just way of being aware of them because, you know, it's not like half the population is that crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hate it when I'm so flummoxed by someone that I go into that voice like he's got at the end. You drive in and you drive out. That's what people do to their driveways, you moron. I can feel that emotion because I know what that emotion is when you're dealing with someone. It's like, how do you not understand this?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, God dang it. That's funny.

[Ryan Seacrest]

For whatever reason, when stuff like that happens, I tend to get really calm and mean.

[Jack Armstrong]

Calm and mean?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, like, okay, now, now I'm going to hurt you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Although I appreciate the pillowing. Ah, you're playing. Calm and mean is more frightening than the high pitched healing.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, I'm not saying it's a good quality. So why is there a cult forming around Luigi Mangione who killed that poor healthcare exec? Strange times, folks. We'll describe it next.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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You know Israel is still under attack. Missile fire has resumed from the Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas enemies seeking Israel's destruction. This is the reality since October 7, 2023. Parents now taking their kids to school, falling to the ground to lay on top of their small children to protect them because sirens are blaring because of incoming rocket attacks. The next attack against Israel is happening right now. That's why your generosity is critical. That's why we have partnered with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews to help provide not only humanitarian assistance, but life saving aid and security essentials. Your urgently needed gift today will help provide security essentials. It will provide bomb shelters, flak jackets, bulletproof vests for first responders and so much more. Call now 888-488-IFCJ, 888-488-IFCj or one word supportifcj.org that's one word supportifcj.org or triple 8488-IFCJ.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

We could be here all day.

[Joe Getty]

Try Clorox Sentiva for a trusted clean with long lasting freshness. Also available in lavender and coconut. News as directed. Hilarious to see these millionaire media pundits on TV clutching their pearls about someone stanning a murderer when this is the United States of America. As if we don't lionize criminals. As if we don't have, you know, we don't stan murderers of all sorts and we give them Netflix shows. There's a huge disconnect between the narratives and angles that mainstream media pushes and what the American public feels. And you see that in moments like this.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That is the utterly unhinged Taylor Lorenz, who was a hot columnist for the New York Times, then the Washington Post. She specialized in identifying normal, innocent people who said anything politically incorrect, particularly in the wake of the George Floyd thing or whatever. And she would find out who they were, docs them, distribute their names online and attempt to ruin their lives for daring to step outside the orthodoxy. She is a sick, sick woman. She's talking about the Luigi Mangioni murder of the healthcare executive. She used the term Stan a couple of times. If you're too older or unhip, like me to know what that means. It's like a super fan becoming a great fan of somebody. Here's one more clip, at least from the deranged moron Taylor Lorenz.

[Joe Getty]

And I can tell you I saw the biggest audience growth that I've ever seen because people were like, oh, somebody, some journalist is actually speaking to the anger that we feel.

[Ryan Seacrest]

So, you know, maybe we finish up. This is the interview she's doing on CNN with somebody named Donnie O'Sull. Next clip.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael, the women who, that are outside court in New York.

[Joe Getty]

So you're going to see women especially that feel like, oh, my God, right? Like here's this man who, who's revolutionary, who's famous, who's handsome, who's young, who's smart. He's a person that seems this, like this morally good man, which is hard to find.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He gunned down a young father on the streets of New York in cold blood because he didn't like something about health care insurance, even though the young man who'd had health problems was well served by his insurance company, as far as anybody can tell.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Did she. And he's morally good. This was a star columnist for the big papers.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was an awful thing to say right there.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, my God. One more clip.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sure you wouldn't like to be compared to a Trump supporter, but some of, some of how people cannot understand why people have sympathies for Mangioni strikes me as the same as a lot of media not understanding why people support Trump.

[Joe Getty]

I totally agree.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's because a lot of people are just really, really desperate.

[Joe Getty]

They want somebody to take on the system. They want somebody to tear down these barbaric establishment institutions.

[Jack Armstrong]

Taking on the system. There's lots of ways to take on the system. Run for office, you know, form a group, have a march, whatever, shooting Somebody in the back on his way to work is not a way to take on the system that we allow succeeded.

[Ryan Seacrest]

By somebody who just gets better security. That is such an adolescent, idiotic and amoral approach. It shocks the conscience.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is. I mean, I, I don't, I don't know how you feel like civilization can succeed if we start. That's taking on, you know, the big issues of our day. I know I'll just go murder them in cold blood. The people I disagree with.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, with no effect. Right. You know, I'm crazy angry about, I don't know, taxes. Taxes are too high. So I'm just going to murder an IRS agent or, or secretary or just somebody anyway. As if that shiznizzle isn't bad enough. How about this? Luisi Mangione is a saint. According to his fans, Saint Luigi, patron saint of healthcare access. For all their posts read. The 26 year old accused killer is depicted online with a green mantle, a red sacred heart, a gold halo and his hand raised in benediction.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you are some twisted human beings. You're hurting your cause, as is often the case with these people. Normal people who hear you this are way less likely to support your universal health care belief than even before when they heard you right.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You're crazy and stupid and the things you think are helping you are crazy and stupid. You know, somebody like Taylor Lorenz is objectively not stupid. She is a perfect example though of what I would call at least like verbal intelligence because she was this fairly successful columnist for a while, but utterly lacking in wisdom or perspective. I mean to the point of being like development developmentally disabled. The term used to be retarded. I mean that was the official term. She is, she has meant moral retardation of some sort. That's hard to picture. But anyway, there's, there's more moral retardation.

[Jack Armstrong]

Never heard that before.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Here's a supporter who writes, I hope Luigi doesn't have to die for us to receive free health care. Like Jesus had to die for us to receive forgiveness. So they think it's going to lead to that. You're a creature. Yeah, I know it. Oh, but there are so many you could like. They're talking about the women who gather outside the court. Young. He's young, he's smart, he's morally. You can buy, you can buy devotional candles bearing Mr. Mangione's image and a prayer of St. Luigi on the back. A St. Luigi Sherpa fleece blanket will set you back. $69.99 a coffee mug for $12. A necklace for $45. A patron saint of capitalism's victims. T shirt. Or Luigi Magione, our patron saint of healthcare. T shirt. Both are $22.99. You can buy. Brace yourselves, folks. A St. Luigi Christmas ornament for 1699.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I'm starting to think that.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It gets worse though. Go ahead, Jack.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm starting to think that your anti capitalist crowd, your crowd, they're all morons. Remember, that was my main takeaway when we did. We did. We had a book club for one book, I think you, me, Greg and Tim and we read that book heaven on Earth about Karl Marx. And my main takeaway was he is just a dumb, crappy guy. I mean, he was just a bad.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

He lived off his. Lived off all his friends and parents and like never did anything and was a cheat and a liar and just lazy. So.

[Ryan Seacrest]

So he like developed a worldview that would excuse his utter uselessness.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, and it seems a lot of that crowd is that way.

[Ryan Seacrest]

All right, friends, here we go. Here's where you despair for humanity. But you know what, frankly, once you get where I am, having despaired for humanity, it's kind of freeing. It's relaxing. An account on GiveSendGo, a Christian crowdfunding site, has raised more than $836,000 for Mr. Mange legal defense. Nearly a million dollars from a Christian crowdfunding site. He committed a cold blooded murder. A donor there writes, I cried on my knees to God as a mother to keep you safe and mentally calm, luigi. Another describes Mr. Mangioni as a father to millions. The website offers three options to help Mr. Mangioni. Give, share, pray.

[Jack Armstrong]

So. Darn it, it's always tough with these. This is just the same as like, you know, the. The assassins that wanted to kill Trump or school shooters are lots of different examples. Okay, is this a. Sometimes terrorists want to be terrorists. Is this a one off? Not this person's mentally ill. This person's obviously mentally ill. Does it have any greater significance when a whole bunch of mentally ill people believe the same thing? I mean, what is going on there? Anybody who says that those last couple comments, those people are mentally ill?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes. Yeah, they are. Yeah. So is this just yet another example of the Internet making it possible for someone with aberrant ideas that not one in a hundred people would agree with or buy or not react with revulsion. They find thousands of like minds. It reinforces them. They get together, they raise their. Their near a million dollars for a cold blooded murderer in the name of some sort of vague notion that the healthcare system sucks. And it does, by the way, it really needs help.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right. And it. It could be improved. And I don't believe the government taking over healthcare would be better for it. But you get to believe that that's a perfectly valid political position. But you don't get to murder people without it. I mean, that's insane. Obviously. Insane. See, there are things I care about a lot too, that you might disagree with. Should I murder the people I don't agree with that you might like? I mean, where would this end? I mean, have you thought this through, you dumbasses?

[Ryan Seacrest]

So a woman by the name of Faith Bottom. I would change my last name. It's spelled differently. But nonetheless, because I'm childish. Wrote a piece about this whole thing and I'm gonna hit you with the end of it. It's hard to know what Mr. Mangione thinks of his new fans and their iconography. In an old post on Twitter, he recommended users look at an article lamenting that Christianity's decline has unleashed terrible new gods. The elevation of sainthood of an accused assassin seems a clear example of how terrible those new gods are. Mr. Mangione's fans, the ones wearing the T shirts and buying pious Luigi keychains, will only get louder proclaiming him a Martyr. More than 40% of Americans aged 18 to 29 think the shooting shooting of a health care. The health care executive was acceptable or somewhat acceptable. More than 40%, according to a poll. The sanctimonious fervor won't stop anytime soon. It's blasphemy, of course. The idea of saints as glorified killers and probably few proclaiming his sanctity are actually religious. What all this kit shows is an unserious nation that wants a folk hero. Mr. Mangione should not be it.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then there's the weird aspect. I'd like to be able to run the experiment where you have the exact same set of circumstances but he's not. Not good looking. On how much that would have an effect on the whole thing.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wow. Wow. And. Or somebody commits a cold blooded murder of a Planned Parenthood executive.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. For instance, if this guy didn't have dreamy eyes, how. How different would the whole story be? I don't know. It played a role definitely in the beginning. We all know that.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh yeah, yeah. And continues to, I think. Absolutely. I think, you know, everybody, we've talked about this for ages. Psychological studies have shown that people react more positively to the Attractive. They assume they're more competent, more intelligent, nicer people, whatever than they actually are. And if you're a stupid person, I'd imagine that sort of pull is even stronger. I mean like I told the story of the person in a line of work I won't describe because she never did anything to hurt anybody as far as I'm concerned, as far as I'm aware. But she very, very attractive girl. I mean, like you, you had to discipline yourself as a heterosexual male to look away. That I had to interact with over the course of several. Quite a few weeks. And I finally got a chance to talk to her at length and she was a vacuous pinhead who wanted to talk about nothing but celebrity gossip. And, and so, but I recognize that, you know, so yeah, if you are a half wit. Yeah. That, that gravity must be irresistible. That he's good looking. I don't, I, I don't know what to make of all this except to despair for humanity, as I said earlier. Yes, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Got to put that in, Got to put that in the mix. The old despair for humanity. We will finish strong. Next Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Cindy Crawford]

You know, Israel is still under attack. Missile fire has resumed from the Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas enemies seeking Israel's destruction. This is the reality since October 7, 2023. Parents now taking their kids to school, falling to the ground to lay on top of their small children to protect them because sirens are blaring because of incoming rocket attacks. The next attack against Israel is happening right now. That's why your generosity is critical. That's why we have partnered with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews to help provide not only humanitarian assistance, but life saving aid and security essentials. Your urgently needed gift today will help provide security essentials. It will provide bomb shelters, flak jackets, bulletproof vests for first responders and so much more. Call now 888-488-IFCJ 888-488IFCJ or one word supportifcj.org that's one word supportifcj.org or 88488 ifcj.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Cleans.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

Tomorrow's tax day.

[Jack Armstrong]

We'll have some good tax stuff for you. Some of the stats that we all should be reminded of every year. How many people don't pay taxes and what a small amount of people pay most of the taxes. And all this stuff.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I've been reading up on standardized deductions. Oh, I love talking about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've been reading up on strep throat because I think I have that and I've never had it before and I've got in like in an hour. I've got an appointment. But the infection is generally transmitted by direct contact with the mucus or sores of someone else with strep throat. I'm almost positive that I've come in contact with nobody's source in the last several days.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Golly. I mean like, gross sentence it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I'm like, I'm pretty dang sure.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That I have not. So I, I would like to launch into a comedic riff on that theme, but it's too disgusting even for me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I also, I didn't have to have to tell this tomorrow. I got rear ended in my 2 week old cyber beast over the weekend. Oh no, I've never had a car that short amount of time before it got wrecked. Anyway, I'll talk about that tomorrow. I wanted to get this clip on again. We've Already played it twice. It's that good. It's in the contender for clip of the year. Gayle King, Katy Perry and some other women got shot into space today. And when they got down, they talked to Gayle King, Oprah's friend, and this is how it went.

[Joe Getty]

How would you describe it?

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's very difficult because you're flying, you're floating.

[Jack Armstrong]

But the best part was when we.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Got back in our seats after zero GS, Katie sang what a Wonderful World.

[Joe Getty]

She did?

[Jack Armstrong]

Is that nice?

[Ryan Seacrest]

She's saying, what a wonderful world. I see dreams. Oh, yes, yes, yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because we'd been asking her to sing all the time, and she wouldn't.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And she wouldn't.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then because everybody said, sing roar. Sing fireworks. And she said, it's not about me.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I wanted to talk about the world.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You know, isn't that nice? You gotta ask her about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is so, so hard to take the whole thing. So you were asking Katy Perry, during the coolest thing you've ever done in your life, getting to go up racket and everything like that, to sing some of her hits on the way back down.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

Such a lame thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is. It is so lame. And then that woman's reaction to. She's saying, what a water for word. She reacted like she just saw her child see for the first time after an operation or something, right?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, she did. Oh, did everybody cry? Yes. Why? Because Sarah's so weirded out that you begged her to sing dude, we're dudes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie, are we overreacting here in our mocking of women and their emotions? Not even a little bit. I mean, come on.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It is so unspeakably lame to badger a performer. I mean, you're at a fundraiser with your favorite music. Sing your hit for me. Sing it.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

That makes you an ignoramus and an a hole. Wow. A holes in space. It's final thoughts.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm strong again. It's final thoughts.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's final thoughts. I'm strong to get it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get ready With Katie Green and Michael Angelo. It's final thought. I'm strong again. Yeah. Here's your host for final Thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap things up for the day. There he is. Michelangelo, our technical director. Michael, what's your final thought?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, if that was clip of the year, this is gonna be co clip of the year.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You sit here, you drive in, you drive out, you have junk cars all over. What do you do?

[Jack Armstrong]

You drive in and you Drive out. That's what people do in their driveways, you moron.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I could not love that clip more, Michael. You're so right. Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie, that reporter needed to ask a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Follow up and get Gayle King to name names. Who asked Katy Perry to sing Roar up there? I want to know. Was it Bezos's fiance?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Who was it?

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm surprised Katy Perry didn't roll her eyes so hard that it set the ship off its path.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, no kidding. Jack, final thought for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, this is a health tip for you as I have swollen lymph nodes and chills and a sore throat. Try not to come in contact with the direct contact with the mucus or sores of someone with strep.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Indirect contact. That's fine. That's fine. My final thought, having attended the Masters over the weekend, the Masters golf tournament is absolutely fabulous. One of the best parts. Nobody screaming or mashed potatoes after somebody hits it. Because if you do, they'll throw your ass out. Out. It's called standards. If you have high standards, you get better behavior. It works every time.

[Jack Armstrong]

And we need more of that everywhere. Schools, movie theaters. Name the place. Armstrong and Getty. We'll see you tomorrow. God bless America. What's your name? Tell us your name.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Armstrong and Getty. I think it takes two to tango. Match made in heaven.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think you're star spangled, Austin. So good.

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[Jack Armstrong]

So good.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

You know, I kind of consider myself the number one female pleasuring device on earth.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jack, that's the worst thing you have ever said.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It really is. That thing's. That thing's number two at best. Wow. On that high note. Bye bye. Armstrong and Getty.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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