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Jack
It's one more thing. Armstrong and Getty. One more thing. We'll get to that in a moment. As I did a little traveling over the weekend, which turned out to be not the best idea since I was sick and Sam was sick, I just thought we would power through it or get over it or something. And it did not work out that way. And we ended up not doing a lot and coming back early, but. So it was very kind of a.
Katie
Surprise when the standard little cough, little sniffle turns into something nasty.
Jack
Ended up spending a tremendous amount of money to feel horrible in an exotic locale. Anyway, our friend, you don't know our friend Dave. Katie. It's too bad. He's one of the best people I've ever met in my life. He was our boss in San Diego. He lives on a boat. Yeah, he had, he had been carrying around a card in his wallet for years. Live on a boat by age 60 as goal setting. And, and he did it. He pulled it off by like a week. Goal setting is important. You really. I was talking with him about that over the weekend. He can't just like think about things occasionally that you actually want to do. You got to commit to him like that. Like, I'm going to do this by this date and then, you know, lay the work to actually make that happen. Anyway, Henry and I slept on his boat two nights in the marina in San Diego and He. He was at his girlfriend's house, so Henry and I had to boat to ourselves. And then we went out in the dinghy in San Diego Bay, which was absolutely awesome. For whatever reason, there was just no boat traffic, I guess because people love God and Jesus and care about that more than boating or something. But on Easter Sunday was nobody out there but us, and we're cruising around the bay in this little boat. We. I didn't know you could do this until Dave told me. We went under the Midway. The Midway is an aircraft carrier, an old aircraft carrier from World War II that they have docked. And it's a museum now, but you can go under it, like around it, really close, and underneath the anchors, which are the size of, you know, several cars and stuff like that. Very, very cool.
Katie
Yeah. Wow.
Jack
And then we saw one of those giant Disney cruise ships take off right next to us, which was stunning to watch up close. Also, just. Oh, it was mind blowing that anything could be that big and float.
Katie
Were you in the water in the dinghy at that point or. Oh, that had to be, like, awesome. Slash. Almost scary.
Jack
It was almost scary. I mean, it was very obvious then. Crazy how fast those things go. It doesn't look like they're going that fast until you're, like, in front of it and trying to get out of the way of it. Yeah, they're going way faster than it looks. I've never been on a cruise. Have you been on a cruise, Katie?
Sam
I have not.
Jack
I've never had this desire to be on a cruise.
Katie
River cruise. The river cruise is fantastic. That's a very different experience.
Jack
Yes. Yeah, exactly.
Henry
I've always been afraid of cruises. The, like, norovirus being stuck on a ship like that.
Jack
Oh, many thousands of people. Like, I was telling Henry that there are more people on that boat than live in my hometown, which I looked up and is actually true. You know, many, many thousands of people on a floating hotel and everything like that. And I just.
Sam
I don't know, I got really deterred at the beginning of COVID when all of those people got trapped on that boat. And it was docked, like, right at the base of the Bay Bridge in the Bay Area. And every day when I was driving home, because we're essential workers, Right. I would see that and go, oh, my gosh, these people are just trapped and they have no idea when they're getting off. And. Nope, I'm good.
Jack
Anyway, I've never been on a cruise, and I'd never been that close to a giant cruise ship. And it I didn't realize it was moving. We were out in the water and Henry said, I think it's leaving. And I said, are you sure? And I started paying attention. It was like, yes, it's coming our way. And we cruised around that for a while. It went out in the water, and then these giant tugboats turned it around, and then it headed out to sea. Very, very fun. And Henry got to drive the boat around, which is highly cool, but very fun. But. So I was talking to her, headed back to the hotel, and I ended up talking to the sort of person in tourist towns who has a tent set up in a high traffic area and sells little things. You know, we've all seen these sorts of people. I'd never had a conversation like I had with this guy, though. And he sold these little things that my kids were super interested in. So I ended up being there for a while and talking to him when he's. He sold a variety of little things, like all those kind of tents do. He actually sold miniature collectible tennis shoes. My son's super into sneaker world and, like, knows all the hot sneakers and what are the most popular throughout the years and what's coming out next year and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he and this guy bonded on it. But he had. He sells miniature ones and, like, they're really detailed with actual laces and look exactly like. And have the hang tags on them. And my son thought they were so cool. And so they talked about it for a long time anyway, and they're made in China and the tariffs are going to end his business and make it almost impossible to sell these things. And we talked about all that. But the guy made. When he was set up by the midway with his tent, he said last year he made a half a million dollars. Whoa.
Katie
Selling these little mini shoes.
Jack
Total sales. How much he got to keep, I don't know, but I know his markup on these things was like three times. And I'll bet he pays practically no taxes. So he's certainly making. I would assume he's making a couple hundred thousand dollars a year doing that.
Katie
Wow.
Henry
Wow.
Jack
I just said. I said, I admire people like you because he was very knowledgeable about his product. I mean, he is a guy who clearly put in a tremendous amount of effort, not to mention the hours to figure out how to make a living compared to some people who have no interest in putting any effort into making a living and just live off of you. Wow.
Katie
That's something.
Jack
I know.
Katie
You know, it's funny how people get crazy into something like friend of mine, or I'm sorry, my neighbor's son is like, encyclopedic about bourbon. He knows everything about all the big names and the history and how this was bought by this and that, and their original distiller was actually the guy who, blah, blah, blah. But now they're under the label of. And I'm like, dude, it's corn liquor. I mean, it's fine. I drink it and I forget my problems for a little bit. And some of it's better than others, but why would you. But it doesn't matter, right? It makes him happy. And mastery of a topic is, Is like, I, I read a great, A great refutation of the notion of mansplaining once in which they pointed out that mastery of a topic or a skill is how men gain status among other men and frequently how they land a mate. And it's funny that a woman would be, like, disdainful of it, but, like, I have a reasonable mastery of preparing and delivering a talk radio show, and trust me, my wife's pretty happy about it at this point. But that's, that's how males gain status. And in the female world, it's more coalition building and being a willing and helpful participant in that relationship, that particularly group relationship.
Jack
That is interesting. And then because we live in a, you know, safe, prosperous society here in America, you become. You can become an expert on something that's just not important, but we have the evolutionary desire to, like, you know, you know, you're. You're sort of making fun of the guy's knowledge of whiskeys and whatnot, you know, more about rock and roll trivia than the average person.
Katie
Useless.
Jack
And not everybody would be into that.
Katie
No, no, indeed. Yeah. I wouldn't, I wouldn't say I'm making fun of it as much as I'm intrigued by it and don't get it.
Jack
Right.
Katie
But, you know, back in the day and you tripped something else in my head about back before we were so safe and affluent and secure, you had damned well be a really good swordsman or a really good rider or a really good farmer or a really good jester for the blacksmith, whatever. It had to be relevant. But, yeah, you had to be really good at it and be an expert at it, or you'd probably starve.
Jack
This guy's knowledge of sneakers for these little miniature sneakers that he gets made. He started hand painting him and making himself, and then he found a manufacturer in Tijuana, and then he moved that to China as it Grew. That's just amazing. People like that who carve out a way to make a living like that.
Sam
Yeah.
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Jack
The shoe part or the seeing your feet part. Just about my flight on Southwest, so I flew Southwest and as anybody who flies Southwest, a lot of times they, they have people who try to be funny who are the air waitresses. And this one had a particularly good, good one. I mean she was really good. She had a full on stand up routine. Songs got applause three different times. I mean it was, it was really pretty impressive. Thank you.
Katie
She is their queen.
Jack
I'll be here till the end of the flight. Thank you. She was really good. But one thing she mentioned that I had never heard before on a flight was do not take off your shoes. Let me say it again in case you weren't paying attention. Do not take off your shoes. Nobody wants to see your feet. Nobody wants that. Please do not take off your shoes.
Sam
God bless her.
Jack
I'd never heard anybody say that before and there were a couple of claps. There are probably some groans that I didn't hear. I've never had the slightest desire to take off my shoes on a flight. Buy more comfortable shoes. Are your shoes that uncomfortable?
Sam
There is something about certain people and getting on an airplane where that is like the first thing they do.
Jack
Wow.
Katie
Yeah. It's like they're in a recliner at home.
Jack
I'm really comfortable though. I got comfortable shoes on and I'm very comfortable.
Katie
Uncomfortable and there's nothing I can do about it because of getting my foot smashed up. But yeah, I don't just, just, just bare feet especially.
Jack
I don't know. I don't want your socked feet either. You're.
Katie
Oh my, my, my, Feet are exemplary. Oh, my gosh. My socks as fresh as a daisy. My shoes.
Henry
I take my shoes off and I ask the passenger next to me to rub my feet.
Sam
Oh, good.
Katie
Yeah, why not?
Jack
Got it. So I was coughing yesterday on this flight. I mean, just people hated you.
Katie
Yeah. Barefoot guy. Yes.
Jack
I felt so far sorry for the people who sit next to me. Both flights for some reason, half full. And when they announced that half full flight today, folks. So spread out, you know, enjoy yourself, find a row, whatever. Very few people are. Both flights there and back. I end up with a full row. I sit. I sit by the window and two people sit next to me. And I didn't say anything to them. It's like, what are you doing? This flight's half full. Go back a few rows and sit by yourself. Why are you sitting next to me? Why are we in a full row?
Katie
That is weird.
Sam
You should have been coughing the entire boarding procedure.
Jack
That would have been a good idea. But this nice lesbian couple, married couple that sat down next to me. But I was coughing and sneezing the entire flight, just endlessly. And I felt so bad for my. I turned toward the window and try to blow my nose that direction and cough that direction. So it wouldn't be quite as obvious. But it was an hour and a half of.
Katie
I'd have gotten the hell away from you. I would have to.
Jack
Especially with open seats. Yes, many open seats. They could have gone anywhere else. They just sat there next to me.
Katie
Wow.
Jack
Yeah. I was the. I was like the last person you ever want to sit next to. I don't think I've ever heard anybody sneeze or cough as much as I did on that flight. You would think I'm gonna die. This is going to kill me. This is the last thing I ever do. Sit next to this nimrod.
Katie
God. Drop your pants and take off your shoes before you cough and sneeze next to me.
Jack
Well, I didn't want to. And I try to stifle it, which makes it makes it worse. And you start thinking in your head.
Katie
I got a cough.
Jack
I have to cough so bad. Oh, it was horrible. And Sam was run one row. My kids don't sit next to me on the flight. Is that weird? I feel like that's weird. We do not sit together and they don't want to sit near me. Three of us get on the plane and we all sit in different rows.
Katie
That's interesting.
Jack
I know, A little odd, but it's a part of. It's because we all like window seats. And, I mean, I don't demand I sit in a window seat, but everybody wants a window seat guy, too.
Katie
Yeah? What is he? Well, go ahead.
Sam
I was picturing Jack, like, arm wrestling the kids. Now I get the window seat.
Katie
You know, I'm the dad. Get out of my way.
Jack
Yeah. So sorry to the nice lesbian couple I sneezed on. I'm not contagious, according to the doctor. So you're fine.
Katie
What?
Henry
I'd have grabbed the newspaper, gone into the restroom and said, I'm here for the whole flight, people. Right, and just hid. Well, I guess that's it.
Armstrong & Getty On Demand: "No One Wants to See Your Feet!" – Detailed Summary
Release Date: April 23, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
In the "No One Wants to See Your Feet!" episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into a variety of engaging topics ranging from personal travel mishaps to reflections on societal behaviors. The conversation is punctuated with humorous anecdotes, insightful observations, and relatable personal experiences, all while maintaining a light-hearted and entertaining tone.
Jack kicks off the episode by recounting a recent trip that didn't go as planned. Both he and his travel companion, Sam, fell ill during their journey, leading to an early return from their exotic destination.
Jack [01:01]: "As I did a little traveling over the weekend, which turned out to be not the best idea since I was sick and Sam was sick... we ended up not doing a lot and coming back early."
His partner, Katie, adds to the narrative, emphasizing the unpredictability of travel health issues.
Katie [01:26]: "Surprise when the standard little cough, little sniffle turns into something nasty."
Despite the setback, Jack highlights a silver lining from the trip—bonding experiences and unexpected adventures.
The conversation shifts to their adventures in San Diego Bay, where Jack shares an exhilarating experience navigating a dinghy.
Jack [02:50]: "We went out in the dinghy in San Diego Bay, which was absolutely awesome... we cruised around that for a while, it went out in the water, and then these giant tugboats turned it around and headed out to sea."
Katie echoes his excitement, intrigued by the close encounter with a colossal Disney cruise ship.
Katie [03:05]: "Wow."
Jack reminisces about the serene yet awe-inspiring moments spent beneath the Midway aircraft carrier.
Jack [03:05]: "We went under the Midway... very, very cool."
Their adventure underscores the beauty and unexpected joys that come with exploring new places, even amidst unforeseen challenges.
A pivotal moment in the episode is Jack’s encounter with a successful local vendor selling miniature collectible tennis shoes. This meeting serves as a springboard for discussions on entrepreneurship and dedication.
Jack [05:30]: "He sold miniature ones and, like, they're really detailed with actual laces and look exactly like... his son thought they were so cool."
Katie expresses admiration for the vendor's business acumen, noting the impact of international tariffs on his operations.
Katie [06:07]: "Total sales. How much he got to keep, I don't know, but I know his markup on these things was like three times."
Jack praises the vendor's commitment and expertise, drawing parallels to the importance of mastery in one’s field.
Jack [06:39]: "People like that who carve out a way to make a living like that... they put in a tremendous amount of effort."
This segment highlights the value of passion-driven entrepreneurship and serves as inspiration for listeners to pursue their own niche interests with dedication.
The hosts delve into a thoughtful discussion on how mastery of a skill or topic influences social status, particularly through the lens of gender dynamics.
Katie [07:10]: "Mastery of a topic is how men gain status among other men... in the female world, it's more coalition building."
Jack expands on this by exploring societal shifts in what constitutes valuable expertise.
Jack [08:10]: "We become experts on something that's just not important... more about rock and roll trivia than the average person."
Katie reflects on historical necessities versus modern pursuits of mastery.
Katie [08:44]: "Back before we were so safe and affluent and secure, you had to be really good at it, or you'd probably starve."
This conversation offers listeners a nuanced perspective on how societal values around expertise and status have evolved, emphasizing the differing pathways to recognition and influence for men and women.
One of the most humorous and relatable segments involves Jack’s experience on a flight where his persistent coughing becomes the focal point of the discussion.
Jack [11:01]: "Do not take off your shoes. Nobody wants to see your feet. Please do not take off your shoes."
Jack recounts how a Southwest Airlines flight attendant humorously admonished passengers against removing their shoes, sparking laughter and applause among fellow passengers.
Jack [11:22]: "I'd never heard anybody say that before... Nobody wants to see your feet."
Katie and Sam chime in with their own observations about fellow passengers' behaviors and their reactions to Jack's coughing.
Katie [12:34]: "Barefoot guy. Yes."
Sam [13:03]: "You should have been coughing the entire boarding procedure."
The hosts explore the social etiquette of air travel, debating the balance between personal comfort and consideration for others.
Jack [14:10]: "This flight's half full... why are you sitting next to me?"
This segment not only provides hearty laughs but also touches on the broader theme of personal space and public behavior in confined settings.
As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the day's events and interactions, emphasizing the importance of humor and empathy in everyday situations.
Katie [14:47]: "Drop your pants and take off your shoes before you cough and sneeze next to me."
Jack [14:54]: "You're fine."
Their lighthearted banter underscores the value of not taking oneself too seriously and finding humor amidst awkward or uncomfortable scenarios.
In this episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, listeners are treated to a blend of personal anecdotes, insightful discussions, and comedic moments. From navigating travel mishaps and celebrating entrepreneurial spirit to dissecting gender dynamics and enduring an unforgettable flight, Armstrong and Getty deliver a rich and engaging narrative. The episode aptly demonstrates the hosts' ability to weave humor with meaningful conversations, making it a valuable listen for both regular followers and newcomers seeking relatable and entertaining content.