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Jack
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
Guest/Co-host
What? Me? No, I'm totally South Korean. Seoul. Seoul, Great city. You should come visit me someday. It's one more thing. Armstrong and Getty.
Jack
I liked that noise.
Guest/Co-host
The classic Simpsons tugging at the collar noise.
Jack
A couple of things.
Interviewer/Commentator
First,
Jack
this was a good clickbait meet for. For me the other day in the Wall Street Journal. The thing on modern cars that people hate the most is going away. Oh, did you see that?
Caller/Listener
I have no idea. But I'm hoping that it's what I'm thinking.
Jack
The automatic shut off thing.
Caller/Listener
Yes.
Jack
Oh my God. Where it stops running for like 30 seconds, accomplishing freaking nothing. I don't care what anybody says, it can't add up to anything. They showed some studies. Some studies show. Yeah, studies from universities where they reward scientists who talk about climate change. You can't convince me it makes any difference to have your car stop running from idling for 30 seconds a couple times a day.
Caller/Listener
Dangerous.
Guest/Co-host
It can be. Definitely.
Jack
I've had that problem where I need to go and my car's dead, but
Guest/Co-host
people trying to make a left turn and you break enough that it cuts the engine, then you go to go and it hesitates and yep, next thing
Caller/Listener
you know, you're getting rear ended. Oh, I hate that feature.
Guest/Co-host
Luckily, my car, I can turn it off. But some cars you have to like, order. You have to have a mechanic install some gizmo to defeat it.
Caller/Listener
I can hit a button to turn it off in my car, but I have to do it every time I turn the car on.
Jack
Yeah, just stupid, stupid, forced climate change bullshit. Accomplished nothing. So maddening. But anyway, it's.
Guest/Co-host
I love it when it cuts off my engine while I'm in the diamond lane because I'm doing so much against climbing climate change. Oh, you people. God, you have no grasp of reality.
Jack
And guess why it's going away. Trump. Trump administration said it's bullshit. It doesn't do anything. We're getting rid of it.
Caller/Listener
Amazing.
Guest/Co-host
Yeah.
Jack
And people hate it. So there you go. There's that one. To mention this before we get to the. I'm from North Korea. South Korea. The dumb list of the top party schools for college in America came out as it always does every year. Oh yeah, and the older I get, the dumb. I thought the list was dumb when young. I mean, for each individual human being, there's nothing stopping you from partying as hard and as much as you want.
Guest/Co-host
I can attest to that.
Jack
Well, everyone can attest to that. So. Yeah, so. Well, I would have really partied a lot harder if I'd have been at this school instead of that school. Give me a break.
Guest/Co-host
Boy, I'm drunk and out of my mind on shrooms and listening to a great band, but I sure wish I was at a good party school, right?
Jack
Anyway, this year, the number one party school is Santa Barbara. UC Santa Barbara. Man, if you're going to UC Santa Barbara, you're partying. You're on the beach, you're in, like, the nicest spot on planet Earth, practically, while you're in your pretending to go to college, in many cases learning nothing, doing nothing but partying. That's quite the lifestyle.
Guest/Co-host
Yeah, it was funny. My kid could have gotten into UC Santa Barbara and said, no, no, the program's not strong enough. And I'm like, wow, you're better than.
Jack
Yeah, I spent a couple of days in Santa Barbara a year before last with the kids. We're at a hotel. I don't remember where we're going. But anyway, I thought people go to
Guest/Co-host
college and live here.
Jack
It's stunning. Okay.
Guest/Co-host
Yeah, there was, and it would be wonderful. On the other hand, there was absolutely zero to recommend where I went to school. Like, geographically, there's nothing. Champaign, Urbana, Illinois. Go there sometime. Trust me, there's no reason to be there, except that there's a university there and we managed to have a hell of a time.
Jack
Well, yeah, Me, the same. I mean, I went to college in a place where most people don't want to be, and it's all about people. I mean, you're hanging out with people you really, really like. You're having the time of your life. You could be. You could be somewhere looking at the ocean. If you don't have good friends you're hanging out with, you would. I mean, it's not like you're not going to make friends at that college. But that's the key, is the people thing. Yep.
Guest/Co-host
Here, here. So, speaking of college and careers and getting ahead and that sort of thing, this is amusing slash interesting. I brought this story at least once to the show that North Korea is profiting enormously by providing remote technical workers for US Tech firms because they have so many, you know, computer geeks and all that work all over the world, but they're not allowed to hire North Koreans. And so the North Koreans go to a great deal of trouble to hide the fact that they're North Korean. Sometimes they'll hire Americans or. Or other people around the world to do a video interview. Then they actually take over and do the work to Bring revenue to the North Korean regime, which is desperate for hard currency. Also. They gather intelligence through that. But anyway, this is actual audio and video, which won't do you much good in this context of an Asian IT worker who has claimed to be South Korean. And the interviewer wants to make sure.
Recruiter/Tech Industry Insider
Yeah, I mean, I was, I was in the process of saying, like, we get like a lot of imposter candidates, you know, particularly North Koreans, like, posing as, like, people that they're not. So one of the tests that we do is trying to get them to say something like, Kim Jong Un is a fat, ugly pig. Could you, could you say that for me? Sorry, no. Kim Jong Un, you know, the leader of North Korea. Yeah,
Interviewer/Commentator
I.
Jack
So I just say. I should say like that. Yeah, yeah, if you could. Because.
Recruiter/Tech Industry Insider
Because it's one test so that I know that you're not. Not North Korean.
Jack
Yeah.
Recruiter/Tech Industry Insider
Can you say it? Damn.
Jack
He really don't want to say it.
Guest/Co-host
He got up and left and we cut out some of the hesitation because it got a little long.
Jack
Yeah, I don't know how comfortable I
Guest/Co-host
was looking wide eyed into the camera.
Jack
Um, I don't know how comfortable I am with that. Yeah, I mean, you don't want to put money in the pocket of the North Korean government, but maybe that guy gets to feed his family on something other than three kernels of corn. If he does the job and if he gets caught, he's going to be murdered and perhaps his old family and the thing they do in North Korea like the next two generations or whatever to make sure that they made their point.
Guest/Co-host
You're a compassionate man, Jack, but a SAP. I will point out that these companies, they can't hire North Koreans. And that's a foolproof test.
Jack
Yeah, I'd say that's a foolproof test. How awful is that? To live in a country where you couldn't even come close to whispering that you don't approve of the current leader or you'll end up dead.
Guest/Co-host
Oh, my God. You couldn't even say. You know, there are moments I wonder whether the regime is making the right decisions. What do you mean? That would get you executed.
Jack
He's a fat, ugly pig.
Guest/Co-host
Kim Jong Un is a fat, ugly pig.
Jack
He is.
Caller/Listener
Somebody should play that audio for all of the people touting the big fat Trump wearing a diaper things at these. No saying, no dictator. You want to see a dictator?
Jack
Yeah. No kidding.
Guest/Co-host
Yeah. Well said. Yeah.
Jack
Jackasses.
Guest/Co-host
Wow, that's heavy. I mean, it's, it's. It was amusing on One level, but it's, it's heavy.
Jack
You don't think Kim Jong Un is a. He's big boned. You just think he's big bone.
Guest/Co-host
No, I think he's big guy, handsome, not a bad looking fella. If I swung that way I'd, you
Jack
know, Was his dad.
Guest/Co-host
He could give you a hell of a lifestyle.
Jack
Was his dad or granddad fat? I don't remember.
Guest/Co-host
Yes. They were all rotund.
Jack
They're all porky. Is that a flex? Like look at me, I got so
Caller/Listener
much, I've got all this food while you starve kind of a thing.
Jack
Yeah.
Guest/Co-host
I don't know if it's a flex or just a function of having that much food and booze.
Jack
Probably not very flexible. Good one, sir. But he probably has people to put his shoes on for him.
Caller/Listener
His daughter's just as evil as he is.
Jack
Oh yeah. And she's gonna be in charge.
Guest/Co-host
His, his 13 year old daughter.
Caller/Listener
Oh yeah.
Guest/Co-host
There was a video sheir apparent.
Caller/Listener
Yeah, she was, they did some big weapons display the other day and there's video of her driving around in a tank and she, I mean she's gonna, she's going to be him with hormones like bad ones.
Jack
She's thin though.
Guest/Co-host
Wow. Kind of a looker. Wow. She's a child. Great analysis there. Wow. She's 13. Jesus, dude. Wow. Sound like Trump back in the day.
Jack
Okay.
Guest/Co-host
Which was disturbing. Yeah. So they, they have her dressing like him.
Caller/Listener
Yeah.
Guest/Co-host
They altered her haircut so it looks a little more like his girl version.
Jack
And then are they feeding her cake all day long?
Guest/Co-host
And again, the weight, I don't think is that significant an aspect of this. But she's also now consistently pictured right next to him.
Caller/Listener
Yeah.
Guest/Co-host
At official important state functions. And the one thing Korea watchers know is proximity at those events is everything. That is the pecking order.
Jack
Got those dictatorship year old daughter, those dictatorships. And I can't believe that they actually do this because I would think it would be counterproductive at some point. But I was listening to about when the Soviets tested their first atomic weapon to let the world know, hey, ain't just the United States got an atomic weapon, we got one too. Stalin was there to see it. All the scientists knew they were going to be executed if it didn't work. They were told that. So if you're a nuclear scientist on the bomb, you were there hoping it went off because you were gonna be executed. Yeah. And it went off. And it went off.
Interviewer/Commentator
Okay.
Jack
So they got an award.
Guest/Co-host
Hey, boss. In the nature of science is you fail and you learn from it. And then you do better next time. Yeah, right. Do you want the cigarette or don't you?
Jack
Or. Or I can think of more clearly and my hands are a little more steady if I don't think I'm going to be executed if I screw up.
Guest/Co-host
Yeah.
Jack
I'm just surprised. They think it's a productive way to do things. And there's like, there's like eight of me in the whole country that know how to do this. You're going to execute me if this one doesn't work. But that was the plan and they all knew it.
Guest/Co-host
Kidnap a German and make him do it.
Jack
Wow. Yeah.
Guest/Co-host
Crazy. So we're anti dictatorship then. Okay.
Jack
Yes.
Guest/Co-host
Decided. Yep.
Jack
Guess what?
Guest/Co-host
He don't want war. That's one thing he don't want.
Jack
He said in the past that he
Caller/Listener
would destroy the United States.
Jack
People around the world. Around the world.
Interviewer/Commentator
You know, one of the weirdest things I saw on 60 Minutes one time about North Korea is they have traffic guards that stand out on these empty roads, directing traffic that doesn't exist.
Jack
They just.
Interviewer/Commentator
They just wave track it traffic through, tell them to stop, and it's just a guard standing out there doing that for hours a day.
Jack
And Dennis Rodman, greatest rebounder of all time in the NBA, went to visit. Right.
Guest/Co-host
Strike a peace accord for some reason.
Interviewer/Commentator
Well, I guess that's it.
Date: April 8, 2026
Host: Jack Armstrong
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts
This episode blends tongue-in-cheek humor and sharp commentary as Armstrong & Getty discuss a variety of topics ranging from the annoyance of "automatic shut off" features in modern cars, the annual "party school" rankings, and a deep dive into North Korean tech workers infiltrating US companies. The episode moves seamlessly between lighthearted banter and more serious commentary on authoritarian regimes, with a specific focus on the peculiarities and perils of working under dictatorships like North Korea.
Jack on climate features in cars:
"Yeah, just stupid, stupid, forced climate change bullshit. Accomplished nothing. So maddening." [01:39]
On college party rankings:
Guest/Co-host: "Give me a break." [02:43]
On North Korean IT interview test:
Recruiter: "'Kim Jong Un is a fat, ugly pig.' Could you, could you say that for me?" [05:33]
Jack (on North Korean fear): "If he gets caught, he's going to be murdered and perhaps his old family...the next two generations or whatever to make sure that they made their point." [06:38]
On career risk under dictatorship:
Guest/Co-host: "In the nature of science is you fail and you learn from it...Do you want the cigarette or don't you?" [10:29]
On psychological gymnastics in autocracies:
Interviewer/Commentator: "They have traffic guards that stand out on these empty roads, directing traffic that doesn't exist." [11:20]
On Dennis Rodman’s North Korea diplomacy:
Jack (sarcastically): "Dennis Rodman, greatest rebounder of all time in the NBA, went to visit. Right." [11:38]
Summary Takeaway:
This episode offers an entertaining yet pointed critique of regulatory overreach, the superficiality of college ranking culture, and, most powerfully, the harrowing reality for people living under regimes like North Korea—delivered with Armstrong & Getty’s signature irreverence and wit.