Nostalgia Was So Much Better Back In The Day

Summary

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Episode: "Nostalgia Was So Much Better Back In The Day"

Date: July 21, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Producer: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty dives into several timely issues, blending their blend of irreverent humor and critical commentary. The hosts explore ongoing Middle East tensions, critique trends in modern therapy, reflect on the evolving meaning of nostalgia in pop culture, and comment on current events—ranging from celebrity memorabilia auctions to new world records. The underlying theme is how cultural shifts, whether in politics, mental health, or collective memory, are shaping—and sometimes warping—American life.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. U.S. and Iran: Evolving Tensions and Tactics

• Opening News Update ([03:27]–[07:16]):
  • Joe Getty shares updates on recent repeated attacks on U.S. bases, reporting nearly 100 U.S. service personnel injured in the Middle East. (03:27)
  • The hosts question the United States’ strategy and political responses, noting confusion from leadership and evolving Iranian military tactics.
  • Correspondent Trey Angst (Fox) reports on CENTCOM operations, emphasizing U.S. efforts to keep maritime lanes open against Iranian threats. ([04:47])
  • Charles D’Agata (CBS) and the hosts discuss Iran's advances in missile technology and their increasing ability to evade air defenses.
  • Armstrong summarizes analysis from Michael Doran (Hudson Institute), describing the power dynamics within Iran and the message-sending nature of military actions:
    • “Vahidi is a die hard jihadi... They serve the Islamic Republic as infidel handlers... Vahidi occasionally speaks in the language he knows best—violence.” ([08:25])
  • Broader context: The hosts observe the West’s fading memory of jihadi threats post-9/11, suggesting, “25 years after that, we’ve lost our memory muscle about jihadis... there’s nothing you can do but kill them because... there’s no other way to deal with them.” ([09:30])
• On War & Leadership:
  • Wall Street Journal op-ed referenced: “Tehran has a wartime advantage over Washington because the ruling Iranian elite want to fight and has been willing to endure far more pain than Donald Trump has.” ([10:46])

2. Therapy Culture and Family Estrangement

• Therapist Influence on Family Breakdown ([16:32]–[22:58]):

  • Hosts discuss a Wall Street Journal piece regarding therapists encouraging patients to cut off family contact as “self-care.”
  • Jack lampoons therapist trends:
    • “This is all the schooling you need…somebody comes in, complains about their husband, their mom, their boss...‘Oh, he’s a narcissist. Classic narcissist.’” ([16:48])
  • Joe reads and paraphrases quotes from psychologists and researchers, noting therapy’s “new trend” of advising estrangement, arguing the default should be reconciling rather than detaching.
  • William Doherty, U. of Minnesota, is cited:
    • "We’re in a culture where we emphasize fragility. Everything becomes trauma and the solution increasingly is to split and leave. But it should be the tragic exception that you cut off a parent or loved one—not business as usual in therapy.” ([19:23])
  • Shocking stat: 25% of Americans are estranged from a close relative; 10% from a parent or child. ([19:58])
  • Joe: “People are complicated. Relationships are hard.” ([23:15])

• Critique of Therapy Industry ([25:52]–[29:29]):

  • Jack critiques the social pressure to attend therapy and questions the field’s professionalism and effectiveness:
    • “Most of it, it’s crap. Most of it is crap. You’re wasting your money. Not only wasting your money, it’s making things worse.” ([25:52])
  • Both share anecdotes about therapists behaving unethically, with Jack noting: “...multiple marriage counselors who have slept with one of the patients that they were working with.” ([27:57])
  • Joe’s point: Many therapists join the profession to solve their own issues, not necessarily to help others. Jack: “Most of them have their own mental health issues.” ([28:56])
  • Text from a listener: Therapist encouraged/engineered a family estrangement, then crossed ethical lines professionally and personally. ([29:39])

• Self-Care & Transgenderism Discourse

  • Joe draws parallels to therapists’ impact on families dealing with gender identity issues, expressing concern about young, confused people being influenced by activist therapists. ([30:11])
  • On gender identity:
    • “To me that’s a sign that that’s a very confused person...it is a profound statement of, ‘I’m not happy being me, I want to be someone else.’” ([31:51])
    • “It’s halfway to suicide. It’s ‘I don’t want to continue living the life I’m living, I want to make a major change.’” ([31:51])
  • Criticizes the “over-diagnosing” trend—too many ordinary difficulties are pathologized: “Too much self care.” ([32:34])

3. Pop Culture, Nostalgia, and Value

• Memorabilia Auctions and the Nature of Nostalgia ([44:36]–[48:28]):
  • The hosts reflect on the changing value of nostalgia:
    • “Nostalgia was better back in the day. It’s not anymore.” ([44:36])
    • Discuss auction items like Beatles lyrics, Chamberlain’s jersey, Big Lebowski’s rug, and debate the intrinsic vs. sentimental value of memorabilia.
    • Joe: “Even if I could afford one piece of memorabilia or another…What am I going to do with this? I’m going to show it to people, they’re going to say, ‘Wow!’... and two weeks later…” ([47:43])
    • Both express a preference for things you can actually use (“I’d love to wear Wilt Chamberlain’s jersey”) over collectibles you just look at.

4. Politics as Entertainment & Current Affairs

• Marco Rubio’s Speech & Political Distraction ([36:08]):

  • Hosts cover Marco Rubio’s recent speech on left-wing extremism, referencing commentary by AG Hamilton:
    • “Too many people now view politics as just a form of entertainment instead of a means through which we resolve or address real issues.” ([37:05])

• The Odyssey and the Culture Wars ([38:26]):

  • Remark on the enduring appeal of Homer’s Odyssey and its newfound relevance in cultural debates, noting, “That’s got to be a good thing, isn’t it?...a major part of Western Civilization is being discussed at great depth 3,000 years later.” ([38:26])

• Other Noteworthy Moments:

  • Brief riffing on the world record for the mile ([43:47])
  • Salad safety and news headlines as clickbait ([34:13])
  • Lighthearted sports banter and comedy tags ([15:45]; [16:21])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Therapy and Narcissism:
  • Jack: “This is all the schooling you need…somebody comes in, complains about their husband, their mom, their boss...‘Oh, he’s a narcissist. Classic narcissist.’” ([16:48])
• On Family Estrangement:
  • William Doherty, as quoted by Joe: “We’re in a culture where we emphasize fragility. Everything becomes trauma and the solution increasingly is to split and leave. But it should be the tragic exception that you cut off a parent or loved one—not business as usual in therapy.” ([19:23])
• On Over-Diagnosing Ordinary Life:
  • Jack: “Once you get to a certain percentage of people are anxious or depressed, aren’t you just talking about the human condition?...Aren’t we just talking about human interaction is difficult and we have to figure out a way to make it work?” ([20:27])
• On Value of Memorabilia:
  • Joe: “Even if I could afford one piece of memorabilia or another…What am I going to do with this? I’m going to show it to people, they’re going to say, ‘Wow!’... and two weeks later…” ([47:43])
• On Tech & Culture:
  • Joe: “I’m seeing backlash against some of the leftist lunacy in ways that are pleasing me...I’m hoping the war against Western civilization may have reached its apex.” ([39:06])
• On Politics as Entertainment:
  • Quoting AG Hamilton (Twitter/X):
    “Too many people now view politics as just a form of entertainment instead of a means through which we resolve or address real issues.” ([37:05])

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Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Highlights | |---------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:27–07:16 | Middle East military/global affairs, Iran-US tensions | | 09:30–11:43 | Analysis of fundamentalist Islam and war psychology | | 16:32–22:58 | Therapy, family estrangement, "narcissist" trend, critique of the field | | 25:52–29:29 | Therapy profession, client-therapist incentives, personal stories | | 30:09–32:34 | Therapy and transgender youth, over-diagnosing and "self-care" | | 36:08–39:06 | Politics as entertainment; Rubio’s speech vs. conspiratorial distractions | | 44:36–48:28 | Nostalgia, pop culture memorabilia auctions, value of “stuff” | | Additional moments | Sports: new world record in mile ([43:47]); Salad safety segment ([34:13]) |

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Tone and Style

• Conversational, irreverent, skeptical—with frequent asides, banter, and digressions.
• The hosts mix news, social commentary, and personal anecdotes, leaning on sarcasm and humor to drive points home.
• Strong positions on the value and risks of therapy, skepticism towards activist narratives and political spectacle.

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For listeners who missed the episode, these highlights and quotes offer a rich overview of the episode’s critical and entertaining take on news, culture, and the intersection of the personal and political.

Transcript

[Armstrong and Getty (Hosts)]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center,

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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

It was the third attack on that base in 24 hours. And now CBS News has learned that nearly 100 U.S. service members have been injured in the Middle east over the last few weeks.

[Jack Armstrong]

Most have returned to duty. I would imagine that's going to be one of the topics of conversation for Secretary of War Pete Hegseth this afternoon as he goes before Congress. He canceled. I guess postpone is probably a better word. His behind closed doors update with Congress. He's a really busy guy. There's an active war going on. There's all kinds of reasons he could have for. I can't be in a meeting right now. Trump's meeting with the president or Prime Minister. I never know which of. Just say leader of Lebanon today and Grand Poobah. Who knows what he's gonna say about that? He doesn't seem to quite understand the difference between Lebanon and Hezbollah and their relationship.

[Joe Getty]

Often some statements have been a bit fuzzy on that distinction.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, the Iranian president has put out a statement today, we're engaged in a full scale war. Okay, well, let's learn a little more about that with tree angst of Fox.

[Trey Angst (Fox Reporter)]

Another heavy night of US strikes against Iran. This was the 10 consecutive night aimed at degrading Iran's ability to threaten vessels in the Strait of Hormuz.

[Jack Armstrong]

Go on.

[Trey Angst (Fox Reporter)]

Now, CENTCOM released a statement about these strikes and their activity in the region, saying since early May, CENTCOM forces have helped facilitate the transit of approximately 900 commercial vessels and 450 million barrels of crude oil. They went on to say, American forces remain postured and prepared to hold Iran accountable for unwarranted aggression towards civilian mariners seeking to freely and openly transit the street.

[Jack Armstrong]

FOX often has these reports about how much oil and how many ships are getting through that nobody else has. I don't exactly know what the discrepancy is there.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I don't appreciate the nothing but negative that you get from the other network, but if your argument is the straight is too open. Yeah, it is. No, it's not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, as evidenced by what happened yesterday. Go on, Trey.

[Trey Angst (Fox Reporter)]

Early this morning, Iran attacked another tanker off the coast of Oman, forcing the crew to evacuate the vessel. According to maritime tracking groups. This does come after President Trump issued a new warning to the regime about killing American forces in the Middle East. The commander in chief said every time Iran kills an American soldier, they will pay for that killing many times over.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know where Trump's head is on this. I mean, it's been lots and lots of threats of wiping them out or this or that. There is some belief that all this shaping is going on, that we're taking out all kinds of air defenses, the rebuilt air defenses, whatever they had left of air defenses, and that we're about to unleash some serious holy hell on Tehran. I have no idea. Here's Charles Dagada of CBS News on how Iran seems to be getting better.

[Joe Getty]

How Iran's missiles manage to evade U.S. and Jordanian defenses show that Iran's tactics are evolving, says retired General Qasid Mahmoud. The Iranians have advanced technology and they improved missiles, he said, with unique capabilities

[Jack Armstrong]

that are tricking air defenses.

[Joe Getty]

In a post on Truth Social, President Trump warned every time Iran kills an American soldier, they will pay for that killing many times over.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I, I don't know if we're doing anything any different than if soldiers hadn't been killed over the weekend.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Boy, I have so many thoughts, thoughts swirling in my head, including the fact that the regime just executed, hanged two young men, ages 18 and 23 for the sin of when protesters were running terrorized away from the special security forces. Open their doors and let them in. That was these guys only sin as somebody was screaming, let me in, let me in. They let them in and so they got hanged for it. That regime is not going to comply because we killed a bunch of people. It won't work unless we kill enough of their people that they can't hold on to power anymore. Read some great analysis by Michael Doran, who I've quoted before. He's the director of the Middle east center at the Hudson Institute. And he was talking about, well, the title of his piece for the Free Press is what the US And Iran are fighting over. The terms of a deal to end the war are being thrashed out in the skies above the Strait of Hormuz. But his characterization. I really liked General Ahmad Vahidi. We've mentioned him before. He's calling the shots and he is ordering the attacks that killed the Americans recently. And here's what Doran says. Vahiti launched the attack not simply to answer Trump. He was also sending a message to Speaker Mohammed Galiboff and Foreign Minister Abbas the officials negotiating with Washington. You may sit across the table from the Americans. The strike in Jordan signaled to them, but I am the man calling the shots. Vahidi is a die hard jihadi. For him, men like Goliboff and Aragji have their uses, but they also need to know their place. They serve the Islamic Republic as infidel handlers, officials who translate the demands of the IRGC into language acceptable to Western diplomats. Their proximity to foreign power, however, can breed illusions of their own importance to remind them who rules. Vahidi occasionally speaks in the language he knows best.

[Jack Armstrong]

Violence. It's something that 25 years now, so I guess it'll be the quarter century anniversary of 911 coming up here in September. 25 years after that, we've lost our memory muscle about jihadis. The fact that they are a thing, that they exist, that there's nothing you can do but kill them because there's. There's no other way to deal with them.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that radicalized Islam, fundamentalist Islam is coming for the West. I think I retweeted it yesterday. A historian talking about how all of the great cities in the Middle east were Christian cities until the rise of Islam when they at the point of a sword slaughtered whoever they had to slaughter and took them over in the name of Islam. Islam is relentlessly expansionist and perfectly comfortable with violence. Still, Islam, at least certain aspects of Islam. And there are hundreds of millions of people who hold that view of Islam. You're Muslim dentist down the street. Probably not. Probably a perfectly good guy and a good American. But that doesn't change the fact that there are God knows how many who do want a conquest of the entire world in the name of Muhammad.

[Jack Armstrong]

So before we take a break and start talking about how therapists make your life worse in some cases, Wall Street Journal has got an opinion piece today. A couple of national security experts with a fairly depressing view of this whole thing. Iran's fortitude is its decisive edge. The ayatollahs want to fight and have a greater tolerance than Trump does for pain. I'll just read the first paragraph. Tehran has a wartime advantage over Washington because the ruling Iranian elite want to fight and has been willing to endure far more pain than Donald Trump has. That's man, you talk about age old reality about war. Who's willing to take this to the end and fight to the death over it? One side is and one side isn't. Who usually prevails in those battles? It's pretty simple mathematics on war right there.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'd say.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that's that.

[Joe Getty]

We, Judy and I were looking into what vacation we might want to take next, like next year. And one was proposed and the, the guy, he was with the cruise company that we really like, he said, now this is super adventurous. You're gonna learn a lot, you're gonna have a lot of fun, but you're gonna need a vacation after this vacation. And I'm like you, wait a minute.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the way I do vacations. I. I lose weight on vacations.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no, thank you. But anyway, it reminds me now. And counseling. You're going to need counseling after your counseling to get you over your counseling. Great example of that coming up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I've got such a good story that I tell it or not do it.

[Joe Getty]

Of course you should do it. Text me all the details and I'll pretend it's my story.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. And since nobody heard this, that's what I'll do.

[Joe Getty]

Perfect.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stay around. It's a good one.

[Armstrong and Getty (Hosts)]

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[Joe Getty]

I want to congratulate Spain on defeating Argentina to win the tournament. Yeah, it was a great day for Spain's players, fans and your annoying friend who studied abroad for one semester. I wish I could be celebrating in Barcelona. You're running with the bull.

[Trey Angst (Fox Reporter)]

Yep.

[Joe Getty]

During regulation time, Argentina didn't score and they had zero shots on goal. Which sounds exactly like my dating life in high school and college. Yeah, I must say the game was lopsided.

[Jack Armstrong]

But Spain could have subbed in Mitch

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

That was a good tag. The Mitch McConnell goalie.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

It was indeed, Jack. Shoshana Rubely was shocked by her therapist's advice given in her second session. But the counselor was recommended by someone she knew and had impressive credentials, so she did as she was Told she cut off all ties with her mother.

[Jack Armstrong]

Guarantee you the therapist told her, your mother is a narcissist. That is the therapy. You don't need to go to any schooling. First of all, you don't need much schooling to call yourself a therapist to start with. But this is all the schooling you need, at least in the modern era. Somebody comes in, complains about their husband, their mom, their boss, whatever. Oh, he's a narcissist. Classic narcissist. That's 100%. Every single person claims that their ex, their mom, their boss, their sister is a narcissist in the modern world.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, how interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

They can all be narcissists all right.

[Joe Getty]

Says the 42 year old freelance marketer. Quote, it was an argument made from authority, so I followed it. But is it really good therapy to break your mother's heart? Apparently this is the new trend in counseling. Instead of urging families to communicate better, work on their issues together, work on their relationships. Therapists are taking the opposite tack. They're encouraging estrangement as a means of self care.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't know if it's new. I know somebody who did this. I don't know how many years ago, probably a decade ago, they told me this story. I know somebody who did this. Which I thought at the time, I don't know what they, how they feel about it now, but I thought at the time I thought, man, that's pretty drastic. This was cut off the entire family.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Well, somebody had the leading edge of this movement. Perhaps your friend's counselor was. Proponents of the trend. Hold it. Advising patients to consider a cutoff from a close relative or spouse they deemed toxic or unsupportive can protect their mental health and allow from emotional growth. Meanwhile, critics, many of whom are researchers who've studied relationship for decades and aren't online influencers giving away some of the rest of this. We'll get to say that it encourages self centeredness and self delusion and ruins families. And now, and you know, it does encourage self centeredness. Yeah, see, that's the thing. There's an argument back and forth. Most therapists agree that sometimes people are justified in breaking ties, especially if they're physically or emotionally abusive.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, way to do the Mott and Bailey argument.

[Joe Getty]

Well, right, exactly. But what's changing is the bar for what's deemed abusive. Certainly abusive enough for a cutoff, says William Doherty, a therapist and professor of family social science, University of Minnesota, who has researched the ways that therapy may be harmful. And I tried to click on that link, but it was a dead end. I wanted to read that study. He says, we're in a culture where we emphasize fragility. Everything becomes trauma and the solution increasingly is to split and leave. But it should be the tragic exception that you cut off a parent or loved one. Not business as usual in therapy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, my experience, some with therapy and some with other people in therapy I've known throughout my life. The therapist always tells you the other person is the problem. How often does a therapist ever tell you you might have a problem yourself?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, that's exactly the point to get to next.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of course, the other person's not paying them $160 every Wednesday at 2:00 clock.

[Joe Getty]

Among some 7,000 estranged parents. Oh, I never got to this. About 25% of the population in this country is estranged from or has cut ties with a close relative at any given time. 25, wow. That's 10% are estranged from a parent or child.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is heartbreaking.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. This family sociologist and professor at Cornell believes that more rifts are likely as tensions over politics and social issues continues to rise.

[Jack Armstrong]

You asked the question a week or so ago that I think is fits with this. Also, once you get to a certain percentage of people are anxious or depressed, aren't you just talking about the human condition? And the same with this. Once you get to a certain point of your sister's a narcissist, your mom's a narcissist, your boss is a narcissist. By your definition, aren't we just talking about human interaction is difficult and we got to figure out a way to make it work. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

People tend to look out for their own interests and maybe they're not as sensitive to yours as they ought to be, but that's humans, right? So they surveyed 7,000 estranged parents just a couple of months ago. And a third believed their adult child's therapist had influenced or recommended the decision in the relationship. And says, to your point, Jack, here's another licensed marriage family therapist says, a lot of therapists are taught to believe whatever the client is saying at face value. They're forming conclusions based on one person's account. But they make the point later on that, you know, a lot of these people have emotional problems and cutting off the relationship isn't going to help them. They're, they're. What is the quote? Essentially, ah, you're not solving the right problem, which is the mental health crisis. And this is the most tragic part. You may be encouraging them to cut off their best source of support, said a senior scholar and senior therapist at the Family Institute, Northwestern University, who often sees people in his practice who have been encouraged by previous therapists to sever ties with loved ones. And then, you know, how much time do we have? We don't really have much time. There's this one gal they cite a lot who's a big time famous influencer online, has a zillion followers, whatever, and she's all into it that, you know, these people have had trauma and they were abused by insensitive narcissists or whatever. And, and, and it's yet another example of a fringe, not very good idea that for whatever reason appeals to a certain kind of person and is readily available online. So in the past, that person would have had access to a few people in their hometown, wherever they practiced, and probably people would have compared notes and thought, she's always telling you to cut off your family. I'm my sister and I fight a lot, but I don't want to cut her off. Instead, she's now online and influencing hundreds of thousands of people with her bad ideas.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a pretty drastic thing to do.

[Joe Getty]

It is indeed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you only get one go round in life and you only have one set of parents and siblings and friends and all that sort of stuff. So yeah, yeah, any who do what's best for you. All right. Ask your therapist if it's a good idea.

[Joe Getty]

People are complicated. Relationships are hard.

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[Jack Armstrong]

This is a topic that I think we're on the floor, front end of. Might become a national conversation more and more as years go by. We overdid it on the whole therapy thing. I think therapy definitely has a role. There are people that have all kinds of horrible things occur in their lives or mental problems or whatever and they need expert help. Then there was this narrative for many, many years. I think Woody Allen started it in the 70s with, you know, going to therapists or whatever. But then there was this narrative probably pushed by the therapist world because they make so much money off of it that people that don't go to therapy are some sort of Neanderthal, knee jerk, anti science, closed off whatever sort of, you know, ignoramuses. Ignoramuses are emotionally stunted or something like that. And so that became a thing. And I remember, geez, I remember years ago, when I was dating, how many women would say, the fact that you go to therapy is so attractive to me that they consider that really a positive quality that you go to therapy. And I think we way overdid it where everybody goes to therapists. And I'm telling you, and I have done an. I've spent enough money on this. I'm perfectly confident saying this. Most of it, it's crap. Most of it is crap. You're wasting your money. Most of it is crap. Not only wasting your money, it's making things worse. First of all, oftentimes bad advice. And secondly, holding out hour by hour, week by week, thinking this person who doesn't know any more than you and probably less about how to handle human relationships is going to fix your problem. So you're just putting off this situation where it is working with your kids or your parents or your job or your marriage or whatever it is. I have known. I'll be vague. I have known too many therapists. For instance, how would I know multiple marriage counselors who have slept with one of the patients that they were working with multiple. And that couples would come to them to try to save their marriage and they end up sleeping with one of them? How would I know multiple. Unless it was a common thing. And I remember when we used to talk about this and take phone calls, the number of people who called up and said that happened to them, and we were like, blown away that that could happen. Turns out it's kind of like the, you know, the weird hot blonde teacher who sleeps with her teenager. It happens way more often than you think it does.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you are in the most desperate situation in your life trying to save your marriage, and you go to this marriage therapist who's going to sleep with your husband or your wife.

[Trey Angst (Fox Reporter)]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Well, we're chatting off the air about the fact that a number of people who either are psychology majors in college or mental health professionals, they got into it because they're trying to figure out their own brains and why they're so unhappy or very. Or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Very, very common.

[Joe Getty]

Keep that in mind.

[Jack Armstrong]

And of course, I didn't say all. If you heard all, well, then you weren't listening. That therapist therapy is crap. But most of it is crap. It really, really is. And you're gonna spend a ton of money and think about their incentives. Do they have the incentive?

[Joe Getty]

Those who.

[Jack Armstrong]

Those of them who aren't very, very good or honorable, do they have an incentive to tell you you might be the problem. Who's the common denominator in all your stories? Do they ever say that to you?

[Amy Ehrett (Madison Reed Founder)]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because you're not going to come back and give them 160 bucks next week if you do.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

There is a. There is an incentive problem there. Oh, we got this text. I wanted to read this one. This is on the whole cutting people off thing that Joe just brought us. That story, apparently, that swept the country for a while.

[Joe Getty]

Cut off all contact with that relative with whom you're uncomfortable.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have a gay brother that absolutely devastated my poor mother with a horrible letter that he was told to write by a therapist. He then estranged himself from the family. The therapist also rented a room to him and hired him as a groundskeeper, which I consider of a conflict of interest. You think the therapist was a damned piece of ass.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Wow, boy. And you've. I know a couple of families going through the whole transgender thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Where the activists have twisted their confused child's mind, and that becomes such a. Just a gut wrenching, heartbreaking effort to maintain contact and sanity. Oh, it's just terrible. That's one of the reasons I'm so adamant about this stuff, by the way. I've seen it tearing families apart. I've seen the activists take an autistic or confused young person and twist their minds. It all boils down to, you know, I hadn't intended to talk about this. I wonder if I have in front of me. Oh, yeah, I do. Actually kind of relates to another topic we're going to talk about. It's a kind of mainstream Democrat guy talking about how, look, these are the three things we have to say as a party or we will never be relevant again. And one of them was about transgenderism. And this fellow was saying, look, people who identify as transgender deserve our full respect of their choices, and we can't discriminate against them, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, I was thinking I wouldn't make any assumptions about anybody, but to me, that's a sign that that's a very confused person. I think cases of actual gender dysphoria, whatever that is, and like most maladies of the mind, it's really kind of difficult to say precisely what it is. I think it's mostly a. And I've read a fair amount about this, and agree or disagree, that's fine. It is a profound statement of, I'm not happy being me. I want to be someone else.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's.

[Joe Getty]

It's. It's halfway to suicide. It's I don't want to continue living the life I'm living. I want to make a major change. Some people go for a hot young wife, buy stuff, move somewhere else if you want to go farther than that because you're really miserable. You think, I'm actually a woman, I'm going to live as a woman, then I will be happy. It is the same thing and it speaks to somebody who is unhappy and confused. And I don't hate any of these people. I hate the activists, but I feel terrible for them that they're that unhappy. Anyway. Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Too much self care.

[Joe Getty]

Too much. What's the, what's the term for when you have to hang a name on something that's just the human condition I suffer from? Whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Placebo. You know, we're going to talk about rough greens. And it's funny because out of the corner of my eye I see this headlines, Can I eat lettuce now? What to know about the cyclosporiasis outbreak in the Washington Post. The answer to that question is the least helpful, most clickbaity. You bastards. You unhelpful bastards. Answer. You can imagine after this word from America's number one dog supplement.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bastards.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Trey Angst (Fox Reporter)]

Of course.

[Jack Armstrong]

My question is, can we eat salad again?

[Joe Getty]

No. Maybe. Yeah, indeed. How much? Do we have more time left? Michael. I missed it. Are we done?

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[Jack Armstrong]

So I'm gonna go hold off on another 10 years just to be sure on not eating salad. I have it in the previous 10 years and I won't in the next 10 years.

[Joe Getty]

I seriously clicked on this article, thinking there's one thing I don't want to read. Can I? Let us now what to know about the cyclosporiasis outbreak. As investigators continue to study outbreak and its possible sources, many people have questions about what?

[Jack Armstrong]

Safety, diarrhea.

[Joe Getty]

Here's the latest advice. Did the Food and Drug Administration really walk back its recall of the Taylor Farms iceberg lettuce? Can I eat romaine instead? What can I do if my favorite foods are from Taco Bell? Baba? People have many questions. Here's what you should know about which foods are under scrutiny and what you should and shouldn't eat. Question number one. FDA say. FDA said Taylor Farms lettuce did not test positive. Does that mean I can eat lettuce now? Not necessarily is the answer.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thanks for that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, no kidding.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a very conversation my kids were having last night. What about romaine?

[Joe Getty]

Calm down, son. Calm down. We can eat romaine again soon enough. I know you're having a tough time, so I want to talk more about the DSA and the fight with the mainstream Democrats, but I want to squeeze this in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Will I ever have a wedge salad again?

[Joe Getty]

Son, you pat him on the shoulder. It'll be okay, buddy. I do enjoy the wedge. Oh, the blue cheese. I don't know what it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what these words mean. Actually, I see them on menus.

[Joe Getty]

Tomato.

[Jack Armstrong]

As I'm looking for the real food, I see them on the menu.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God, you're a salad fraudster. You're a. You're a bandwagon jumper.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, I'm just, yeah, I'm just throwing around terms I've seen on menus. Again, as I'm looking for the actual food.

[Joe Getty]

I thought this was worth squeezing in. Katie Pavlich tweeted that every American needs to listen to this entire speech, Marco Rubio, talking about left wing violence and that sort of thing. And she says, not just clips. It is phenomenal. Thank you, Secretary Rubio, for recognizing the severity of the problem, most importantly, working to combat it. Well, that was commented on by the excellent AG account on Twitter that that many people are familiar with Ag. Hamilton, 29. It started out, the pretext, I think, was that it was as if Alexander Hamilton was tweeting, but it's evolved. This guy's a really, really good thinker. And I am going to quote him now if you want to understand the entire problem with our political conversations right now. Marco Rubio delivered an extremely consequential speech identifying, pushing for action on the significant threat of growing left wing violent extremism. There were 60 countries there. As part of the call to action, another administration official went on an entertainment podcast where he engaged in a bunch of conspiratorial nonsense with little substance. Yet the ex political conversation was overwhelmingly focused on arguing about the latter while ignoring Marco's speech and associated planned actions. Too many people now view politics as just a form of entertainment instead of a means through which we resolve or address real issues. These incentives are doing real harm to our ability to achieve anything substantive. He's right.

[Jack Armstrong]

If Marco Rubio gets elected president, that speech he gave last week is going to be the turning point that allowed that to happen because he got so much good press out of that in conservative quarters.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Right. And contrasted with the other contender, the obvious contender, J.D. vance, and is playing footsie with Nazis, pretending to give credence to conspiracy theories to keep those folks on his side. I hope maybe you're into whatever. Maybe you think George Bush planned 911 Kennedy assassination was the CIA and the moon landing was faked. But I hope you're bright enough to know when somebody is pandering to you and doesn't believe what you believe. JD's just thinks he's so clever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, it's amazing to me, switching topics, how much conversation is going on about the 3,000 year old poem the Odyssey by Homer because of this movie. So many think pieces and podcasts and YouTube documentaries, you know what they got, what was left out or this take on it, or you know, it's woke or not woke or it's conservative or not conservative or whatever. But just that's gotta be a good thing, isn't it? That such a major part of Western civilization is being discussed at great depth 3,000 years later?

[Joe Getty]

I think it absolutely is. I'm seeing backlash against some of the leftist lunacy in ways that are pleasing me. Oh, and backlash against some of the tech stuff that's making people miserable too. And I'm hoping the war against Western civilization may have reached its its apex.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh well, I got to comment on that. I'll have to get into later.

[Joe Getty]

I hope.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know lots of stuff on the way. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

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[Armstrong and Getty (Hosts)]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Josh. Well, record ahead of you. 34319. Don't forget. Here he goes. I think he's gonna do it.

[Joe Getty]

Keep going, Josh.

[Jack Armstrong]

Keep going, Josh. It's a wild record. Jesse. Jess in oh, my go word. He said I can do it. He said, I will do it.

[Joe Getty]

I'm telling you I'm going to do it. I'm telling you when I'm going to do it. I'm telling you where I'm going to do it.

[Jack Armstrong]

And he's done it. So. New world record for the mile. 3 4, 2, 6 6. You're running a mile in 3 minutes and 42 seconds. Broke the world record that it held for 27 years. I think it was long, long time.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, a Scotsman.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, A white guy.

[Joe Getty]

Hasty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's fast.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is fast. Did it have anything to do with the shoes? I don't know. I did a little research on that. It's not as the long distance running, those spongy shoes, but they don't wear the spongy shoes in a mile. They were really flat, spiky shoes. So not sure it had anything to do with that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I don't know. So you look at me, you'd think, boy, that guy's knowledgeable about fast running. But you'd be wrong. I'm not.

[Jack Armstrong]

We've talked a lot about how nostalgia, nostalgia has had its run and it's over. There was a time when nostalgia was really fantastic, but so much better back in the day. Nostalgia was better back in the day. It's not anymore. And nostalgia all about, you know, your formative years, or were you alive at the time? For the most part, not always. I mean, you know, there's just. There's some Abe Lincoln memorabilia I would like to have, and I wasn't alive at the time, so I guess that's not always true. But here you got some Beatle lyrics handwritten by John Lennon on the back of a Valentine's Day card that sold for $656,000 yesterday. The song is if I Fell, which I don't know that song.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's good. Good early song. Yeah. Anyway, but that would be probably if I fell. I promise to be true.

[Jack Armstrong]

So probably somebody who was, you know, a teenager in the 60s, and that mattered a lot to them, probably. And then in future generations, will it mean anything or not? I don't know. But other things that were in the same auction. There are some cool stuff here. Oh, I saw one thing. Wilt Chamberlain's warm up jersey just said Chamberlain on the back from the Golden State Warriors.

[Armstrong and Getty (Hosts)]

Freaking.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'd wear that every single day, except it'd be way too big. It just hang off me and I'd look like a little kid.

[Amy Ehrett (Madison Reed Founder)]

But I'm more.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think I'm more into stuff you could wear or use that would be cool rather than just something that I have in a drawer and I show it to somebody now and then.

[Joe Getty]

Well, as you may recall, I for a time owned John Oates guitar.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's right.

[Joe Getty]

Didn't do me any good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like, I. I have one of the main guitars that Dwight, you come's lead guitar player played. I have that, and I enjoy playing it. And it's a good guitar, so I don't know, whatever. And I didn't pay any more for it than a regular guitar. Actually, here's one I know you would like, Joe. First of all, if you remember the movie Airplane, when they would put it on autopilot, they would have these inflatable pilots that sat in the seat. They sold one of those for $200,000 yesterday. Hoverboards from Back to the Future. How about Willy Wonka's hat from the original 1971? His top hat that he wore sold for $350,000. That's pretty cool. The.44 Magnum revolver Clint Eastwood had in when he was police detective Harry Callahan. This one specifically from when he said, famously, go ahead, make my day.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I've seen that clip like five times lately. YouTube keeps showing it to me. That's because they know I watch it.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a cool clip. That actual.44 Magnum sold for 200 grand yesterday. But here's the one I know you would want, Joe. Oh, the rug from the Big Lebowski really ties the room together.

[Joe Getty]

The very rug that tied the room together. The very.

[Jack Armstrong]

The very rug. They sold that yesterday. How cool is that?

[Joe Getty]

How much?

[Jack Armstrong]

See if I can find it here. I'm on the New York Post, which makes it impossible to look at things with ads.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you're not actually selling $350,000.

[Joe Getty]

See, even if I could afford one piece of memorabilia or not or another. I just, I always think the same thing. What am I going to do with this? I'm going to show it to people and they're going to say, wow. And I'll get a certain amount of joy. I'll look at it a lot.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's why I would like something I would wear. I'd wear Wilt Chamberlain, says Chamberlain across the back.

[Joe Getty]

His warm up jersey.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would love to wear that.

[Joe Getty]

You know, if I could buy Paul's lyrics to Yesterday or John's to I Am the Walrus or something like that, I would buy those and I would be super excited about it. And two weeks later.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. You'd think if I'd have put that in an index fund and I love

[Joe Getty]

it more than I can tell you that music but just each their own.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you missed the segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand. There's another hour to go.

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